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She is a woman not a they them. She’s one singular human who happens to be a WOMAN. Stop adding to mental health issues. SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE NOT THEY OR THEM !!!
Ok idk if I've seen any of your vids before but that was fantastic! 👍 Definitely earned a subscription! I hope I get a nice birthday present this February in the form of these two women being incarcerated for life! Plus, I was just rear ended last Wednesday! At my new job I've only had a month, in their vehicle! I don't think I've handled it well because I like this job and wanna keep it! 🤷♀️
When she's a septuagenarian, paroled and working a menial job to make ends meet, completely alone and living as a functional spinster because none of her children or her ex-husband want anything to do with her, and every older single guy thinking about striking up a relationship Googles her name... I have a feeling she'll truly regret what she did. Old age has a habit of throwing the mistakes of your life into sharp relief.
Children of UA-camrs should have the same protections as children who perform on stage or in movies or on TV. Making money off your children is unethical.
Ruby thought it was appropriate to punish a six year old for not being "personally responsible" but was willing to shift at least some of the blame for her behavior on someone else. The older daughter saying "finally" says it all.
@jonathanhinshaw588 idk where you live in my school growing up, if you didn't have money in cash or credits, you wouldn't eat lunch. That's the case in many schools, no cash, no lunch. There's no way to "charge to the parents" at least not where I grew up
Both of these women were enjoying being sadistic long before they became the duo of doom. The only light in this story is that none of these kids are dead.
@@cynthiaroark1778 I've wondered the same thing. Between her niece & these children, were lots of years of God knows what. All those 'distortion' women should be questioned.
Absolutely not-although it looks like things became worse recently, even when they were together and posting on youtube, you could see things were not right. Kevin was still helping to make decisions when one of the boys was sleeping in communal room of the house with no bed for months. Ruby was just more upfront about her awful, abusive parenting.
Ruby wore the pants what u probably don’t know is Kevin always did. What ruby wanted ruby wore the pants what ever she said went that brings me to the point ruby blamed the marriage breaking down on Kevin and she said he was toxic she didn’t Want the kids around that but the thing she was apart of runined marriage s also Keven always was present holidays birthdays he was in the vlogs a those times the most cuz he too time off when u saw Kevin in the vlogs he was kind when kids were sick he was hands on also ruby as time went on she dint really let kids decorate the house how they wanted I rember that Kevin was with them and at first they were all awkward but by the end of the vlogs they were smiling Kevin did not know what was happening because he left because that’s what ruby wanted and he had no contact with his kids that’s what. Ruby wanted if he knew he would fight like he’s is now. He was away when all this happened almost a year
@@unicornssprinklebutt9988 Nope, total nonsense. They're his children. His "excuse" is that he hadn't had anything to do with them for a year and his wife was being all crazy. THAT is neglect! Keven , "kind" ? We sure see that when he is so angry that the police haven't arrested his eldest daughter that he informs them, in full on Karen tone, that he's going to make a complaint. And that was while two of his children were the hospital! But was he worried about THEM? No. Just about retrieving electronics that had information on them. There's zero evidence of this kindness in that ghastly UA-cam channel twaddle. Kevin crowing and happy about sending his eldest son to a camp which, "just like home" has no bed for his child. Super duper kind.
Who has time to watch all this crap on you tube. I like to watch videos of interesting stuff. But some holier than thou woman who is a terrible mother and thinks she’s wonderful is not it. Rather watch football stuff
The oldest son is clearly completely traumatized by the situation and he’s now taking out his frustrations and anger on his younger siblings… This was so depressing to watch because I mean… how many families are out there and have no eyes on them doing the exact same thing? We NEED to protect THE children.
Poor guy was so emotional seeing this little boy emaciated and wounded. Absolutely heartbreaking to hear him describe what he's seeing. I'm so happy this child found the strength and courage to ask for help! He truly is a hero for his siblings!
It is not surprising that her older son bullies his younger siblings. He is actually following mom’s example of what you do with power. Wouldn’t it be great if she had demonstrated support and nurturing, a more positive use of experience, age and power?
I use to watch them on yt way before all this happened and I don’t think Chad was a bully. He did classic older brother annoying things but nothing that was trying to manipulate them. From what I remember he was the one who would mostly make slight jabs at his moms rules and what him and his siblings missed out on. That’s why they sent him away to that wilderness camp (that was also very abusive)
it would be different if they had the same protections as child actors and they made money that went it to accounts for them. Obviously I would want them treated well and since that doesn't seem to happen it totally is exploitation and its horrible. I wouldn't wish it on any child.
"I can't stay with my wife anymore, shes too abusive to our kids so Im going to abandon them with their abuser instead" he left them with nobody in their corner
As an elementary school teacher I find it difficult to accept an apparent mother saying a 6 year old is responsible for packing her lunch. She’s 6!!!b6 year old are not responsible for anything, they’re too young. Her attitude is alarming and heartless.
Hi there - I am the mother of a 7 year old girl over in England. I agree with your comment, and I wonder if you might give your opinion on something! My 7 year old daughter has a teacher who insists children pack their own food and school bags, including necessary homework for the day etc. I believe that 7 is too young for this responsibility, especially when the children are in trouble if they forget something. I think you’re the first teacher that seems to agree with me!? I’ve put a bag checklist up for her to make it easier…
@meganclaridge2235 I also agree with you Megan...and that teacher should be working in a supermarket,she couldn't be a teacher. Your litle boy's job is playing, see the world, learn the world, be a child..."she" knows nothing about children, her heart is dried and she is not your boss to decide if you prepare the lunch or not. Remember: each lunch you prepare tk your son is an act of love....don't let nobody steal it from you both! SHE IS NOT A TEACHER, dhe can't teach!
I packed my lunch from age 6 or 7 on and don’t think that’s anything crazy to expect. What’s abusive is refusing to help the child if they forget their lunch and letting them starve. If the kid forgets, something has to be done to ensure they still eat.
@@Jocelynex yeah, it’s just that it was said in the video that the CPS were charmed by her and even asked for advice. She sugarcoated the reality so well that they were literally hypnotized
Hearing Jesse talk about the torture and neglect they went through is so SICKENING. You have to be another type of evil to think it's okay to isolate and manipulate a minor who is trying to find their voice and confidence during that period in their life.
I remember how she just loved the thought of her 6 year old being hungry at school because she forgot her lunch. She even said that she hoped nobody at the school would give her any food so that she'd "learn her lesson."
To have your own mother hold you under water close off your oxygen and kick you with her boots must be the most terrifying thing in the world to experience as a child! The one person that you define all safety and trust and love! Ruby destroyed everything she touched.
The Mormon Cult teaches that if you don't follow their values and edicts exactly, you'll never be together with your family, and you'll go to the bad place when you die. So some parents freak out and go to extremes to ensure their children are "raised right" and don't end up in the bad place.
The husband was there for the bed being taken away & the refusal of lunch. He abandoned his children completely. This man is CULPABLE & he should NEVER get custody of his children. He should spend the rest of his life making up to his children for abandoning them when they needed him. The icing on the cake was when he wanted to press charges on his daughter for taking things from the home. This man is a SAD example of a father.
The main point to take away from this: The daughter said they repeatedly reported them, and nothing was done by CPS. The only time action was taken was when the boy ran away, and a neighbor called the police where he pointed out all the injuries, and it could no longer be hidden from the public. Sickening.
It occurs to me that it's the modern penchant for rushing off to so-called "therapy" for anything and everything that causes these problems in the first place. It's not a mental health problem to be upset about something. It's an absolutely normal and healthy human response
I watched the video where Kevin justified his oldest son being sent away to that camp and sleeping on the bean bag for 6 months, with Ruby by his side. I think Kevin should be sent to the same camp for 6 months for being such a neglectful dad and not standing up for his children during 8 Passengers!
@@harper_anne2089 exactly and I know he wouldn’t have lasted out the four months, he was so cocky that they were doing it with a therapist who turned out to be Jodie. How did that work for him? I only wish Ruby could be given the same punishment that she dished out to RF and EF. I fear for them when they are adults because the amount of sunburn they have experienced, especially RF I’ve suffered over 10 years with skin cancer, and it’s not an easy journey and I was never burnt to the extent that they have. 😢
exactly, the petition and even her sister Bonnie was called to UA-cam HQ because of her kids always being in the ER in her videos and they still get to be on UA-cam exploitation
Crocodile tears. Ruby is a demon. And there is no shred of doubt in my mind that Kevin knew his kids were in danger, he just didn't care. He left his children in the care of demons.
That's what I thought the first time I saw her, this is the second vid I've seen of her and that other awful woman! I don't remember what the other vid was about but I remember thinking that I didn't like either of them!! I couldn't put my finger on why but I never ignore that feeling that somethings off! For example.. This guy was upset with me cuz I wouldn't be his gf, or prolly just that I wouldn't sleep w/him. He damaged my car. But about a decade later I found out he'd been in prison for DV! My mom met him, he worked at the bingo hall, told me he was cute! SMH 🤦♀️ Mom's not always right!
@@mdaze9753I think it's moreso well maybe that and their religion and their nice clean shiny life! The house is beautiful and they dress like celebrities or like they're gonna be in a magazine. Is this another Chrisley Knows Best? My mom loved that show! She gives off narcissistic vibes so I'm surprised that she took responsibility for her actions! That's the right thing to do for those kids tho! Looking forward to sentencing!
CPS in that state needs to be investigated. They denied those poor kids help so many times. There should be stricter rules or something, this is ridiculous.
It is Utah so they lean HEAVILY towards the parents side over the child...as these families always 5-9 children....its sort of a inner cult. A wink wink nudge nudge, because almost all those type of jobs in Utah are held by Mormons..as are the family court judges. Not a good state to be a child in
That s what Jodi told Ruby and also how Jodi destroyed many families. The man loved Ruby so much he almost signed off his house. He was gaslit, manipulated, decieved, abused ... you name it.
Punishes her son for months by taking away his bedroom, personal space and then proceeds to allow everyone to laugh while she has a smirk? She's twisted.
I hope Kevin doesn't get custody over children. If he cared for them he wouldn't accept to be away from them for a year and to not know their whereabouts!
And then the people claim men and women have equal rights, it's not neglect if a man stays away and leaves his children to their fate, but if a woman does it.. He was there when his son slept on a bean bag for 7 months for a little prank against his younger brother.. He probably heard her say when his son laughed about it "oh you're laughing so you haven't learned yet, I think we need to have you sleep on the floor longer" imo, he's just as guilty. But atst these things happen every day everywhere and nobody will ever be punished for it, for at least Christians are taught to honor their mother and father.
My youngest son repeatedly forgot to bring his lunchbox back from school. My “punishment” was to pack his lunch in a brown paper bag the next day. This would remind him to grab the lunchbox and put it in his backpack. Easy peasy. No need to ever be unkind to your kids
I'm a father of 2 who are now teenagers, the details of this scum treating her children actually made me feel physically sick. Now I have a very strong stomach but I barely made it through this video. She should be subjected to the EXACT treatment her kids experienced, I firmly believe that
I am really happy, that her subscribers didn't just follow her blindly, but were analyzing what she says and shows, bringing attention to what was wrong
She had a wonderful life. She had money and 6 healthy kids. She had everything one could ask for. Feeling really sick that one mother could do this, she isn't at all in remorse.
As much as everyone wants to know about it, don't you think the kids deserve some peace? You think you want anymore of their life store out for everyone to see?
@@christopherlewis2194 So dad has no responsibility for his children other than being a sperm donor? It's called neglect. Parents are supposed to protect their children, even (especially) if the abuser is their other parent.
Why because you say he needs help?not everyone needs therapy,I'm 51+live in England+can't think of anyone I know or known who has been to therapy,we must be just better adjusted
The role of "religion" in this should not be ignored. It should be studied and countered. Religious organizations are given too much deference, in this country and too kuch power over our lives. These are institutions run by human beings, susceptible to greed, lust, sociopathy, and psychopathy. There are few, if any, checks and balances to counter this negative influence.
Thank you for sharing this video essay/timeline. While Ruby is pointing the finger at Jodi, she can’t blame Jodi for her bad behaviour and treatment of ALL those kids in the YEARS preceding August 2023. Ruby filmed and uploaded very concerning behaviours. Viewers of those videos were concerned about the children. Some people contacted the authorities. Both of these women need to be looked at very closely. Both have a history of abusive and controlling behaviour and BOTH need to be investigated for their actions before they met, before August 2023. Ruby should not be allowed to simply blame Jodi for everything that happened.
Going to a camp and sleeping rough is part of the experience. Sleeping on the floor at home because your mom took away your room is something completely different and wrong.
yes however in this case the "wilderness camps" mentioned are well known to have extremely poor conditions. usually it involves kids sleeping in outdoor conditions for months, sometimes years. its not just "camping".
Being exposed to sunburns as a child sets a person up for melanoma later in life; I hope they will get regular skin checks after all the burns they endured. I was also suspicious of Kevin’s concern for his kids. When Ruby sent him the emergency text, he responded that he was at work. A caring father would have asked what was going on and ask if the kids were alright.
Narcissism is already strong in her oldest son. They learn it from their mom. In general. If someone feels the urge to display you and your family to millions of strangers, that should be considered as a red flag. Also who need parental advice from someone doing that?
The “natural consequence” of forgetting to pack a lunch isn’t inherently that her kid would be hungry. That’s A POSSIBLE consequence. But it could’ve been that she learned she could make a mistake or forget something and that people around her loved her and would be willing to have her back. Like, wow, that alone is so cold. And way to make it about the teachers discomfort. Wow.
I agree to a certain degree. It depends on the age and the entire situation with the child. For example, if a kid's consistently for getting their lunch or for getting their gym clothes then yeah the natural consequences should follow. The parents shouldn't bail them out
The baffling part is that the father is not being held accountable. As if it is solely the mother’s responsibility to be nurturing and caring. For what I’ve seen around several youtube channels, the father was fully aware. UA-cam should just not allow family channels to thrive with children on it. Many people are complaining now, but many were seeing the content and this encouraged the parents to do vile things to their kids for views and likes.
Kevin is just as guilty as she is... he allowed and watched what happened there for years. I would never let anyone do something like that to my child ...never.... If I had just one thought like that... I would seek treatment . Starving, standing in the sun for hours, no friends, wounds...diving into ice water .....and and and..... it hasn't been for a year ...but years ..... The eldest daughter had broken off contact with both parents ...The divorce thing is just to make him seem innocent... shame on u both
@@Uncle_Sham when he was a victim..why did he say he didn't want to separate when Hildebrand said they should be separated for a while ....and the and the real problem....why didn't he make sure he took the children with him....with all the UA-cam evidence and child abduction he could definitely have taken legal action ...100% He didn't care... I was a victim of domestic violence for years... the day he started threatening our son I went to the police and court and never looked back ....
That is why it is important to know what information you are taking away from social media. Social media have turned people into experts on things they are not.
My daughter has 3 sons and she's far stricter than I care for. But after watching this sick woman, I'm no longer worried about the boys. None of them have had to explain themselves like Chad has had to do. They prank their brothers, but when it goes a bit far they get grounded for a week. They always have a room and a bed...
Having children changes you. It makes you softer, more loving and caring. The thought of hurting my children or any child is unthinkable. Those poor kids. Why bother having babies if you dont love and want to hurt them.
Exactly! I have two nephews , 7 and 2 and the thought of even making them cry makes me sick. They are literally spoiled and are my heart; literally they are like my kids.
the saddest thing about this is, imagine how many family vloggers are still hiding behind their fake positivity. if you guys really think that this is rare, then you cant see through the real problems that social media has overall.
Van life parents need to be the next to be scrutinised - they always have a separate bedroom with a door, and their children sleep on shelves in the living space, have no privacy, no space of their own, no structure, no friends, no access to proper school… denying children all of this is not OK.
My son is 8 and forgot his book bag last week with his lunch in it yea it was inconvenient but as a mom I do not expect him to be flawless, I went back and brought it. Yesterday I forgot my wallet, did I think I was deserving of a punishment? No. Mistakes happen
Kevin and Ruby both failed their children. Kevin is no better of a parent than ruby is, he abandoned his children when they needed him most and tried to have his oldest child arrested for taking his stuff from the house all while all of this stuff was happening with his other children.
I NEVER in a MILLION years would've thought Ruby would end up in PRISON!!! KEVIN needs to join her. UA-cam needs to do away with family channels. The millions she made of the backs of her children is being used to pay her lawyers!
I think there's a very good chance part of the reason she pled guilty to the charges so soon and with very little fight is because she's done worse and doesn't want further things uncovered during a trial
"It hurts me just as much as it hurts my kids..." I dispute that. I feel that the thrill and satisfaction of complete and utter control was her payment and reward. None of this, in the minds of even the strictest parents I know, would be deemed proportional or necessary. It's hurtning now though, huh?
Kevin, to say that you LOVE your children and still be out of contact with them for a year with an unhinged mother is rather strange but, to each his own I guess
I did not know about the last punishments. Incredible. For me, the unforgivable situation was when Ruby was driving their kids somewhere and witnessed a car crash that occured very near them. She suddenly started scolding her kids in a manner of a "life lesson", that they should have been the ones that crashed and possibly died. That, for a kid, is so traumatizing.
CPS needs to be sued. They are the absolute worst. I am so sick of hearing about these cases, where someone could have done something before it got this bad, but CPS walks away with a , "Oh, they seem okay". Idiots 😡🤮
i mean... ruby did show what a horrible and abusive mother she could be in her own videos. it looked terrible with just what she wanted her audience to see.
@@Uncle_Sham probably because he's less strict than his wife. But if you had followed the 8 passengers you would know he totally supported the Hildabrant lady's "counseling".
I didn't realize how neglectful and irresponsible my dad was until I was in my 40s, because what did I have to compare to? My abusive & neglectful mother. My dad was the lesser of two evils, so I considered myself daddy's girl. Daddy definitely taught me how to use drugs and have fun, while turning a blind eye to everything my mother put me through. He worked the majority of his life under the table to avoid paying child support for all the kids he had with several different women. Kids, even at 18, don't often know better, especially when they're still negatively impacted by the trauma and haven't begun to heal.
Thank you!! I have been saying the same thing.. That man also wanted to have his daughter arrested.. He needs to be punished as well but, they are trying to make him a victim of Jody H!! I don't get it.. 🤨
Because they are their parents! No matter what they put them through they still love them and care about them because they are their parents! I know it sounds crazy but it's true. 😔
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She is a woman not a they them. She’s one singular human who happens to be a WOMAN. Stop adding to mental health issues. SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE NOT THEY OR THEM !!!
Get help
Ok idk if I've seen any of your vids before but that was fantastic! 👍
Definitely earned a subscription!
I hope I get a nice birthday present this February in the form of these two women being incarcerated for life!
Plus, I was just rear ended last Wednesday!
At my new job I've only had a month, in their vehicle!
I don't think I've handled it well because I like this job and wanna keep it! 🤷♀️
Yes but what are your pronouns
@johnnydeppisarapistjyoure probably the only person that cares about this ohnnyd8962
She doesn't regret what she did. She just regrets that she got caught.
When she's a septuagenarian, paroled and working a menial job to make ends meet, completely alone and living as a functional spinster because none of her children or her ex-husband want anything to do with her, and every older single guy thinking about striking up a relationship Googles her name... I have a feeling she'll truly regret what she did. Old age has a habit of throwing the mistakes of your life into sharp relief.
I agree, she's saying what she thinks is required for the lightest sentence possible.
Children of UA-camrs should have the same protections as children who perform on stage or in movies or on TV. Making money off your children is unethical.
Completely agree
I also completely agree.
100%
I agree. She said... she made millions...NO,her children made her millions 😢.
@@megschmeedafamcagreed..laws have already come out in other countries.
Anybody who puts their kids front and center on social media gives me the creeps.
Agreed. It’s also wrong of this channel to use their names and show their faces…
You re saying that out of jealousy
@@PortierMaestriaAppartements huh?
Yeah, it’s an automatic don’t recommend
@@PortierMaestriaAppartements jealous of what?
Ruby thought it was appropriate to punish a six year old for not being "personally responsible" but was willing to shift at least some of the blame for her behavior on someone else. The older daughter saying "finally" says it all.
Now what she did was totally wrong, but couldn't the 6 year old just get school lunch? And just charge the parents. My school did that with my family
@jonathanhinshaw588 idk where you live in my school growing up, if you didn't have money in cash or credits, you wouldn't eat lunch. That's the case in many schools, no cash, no lunch. There's no way to "charge to the parents" at least not where I grew up
STOP watching ANY videos that feature children. Turn them off. Refuse to participate. Change starts with YOU.
Exactly...
I agree 100% ..,
Both of these women were enjoying being sadistic long before they became the duo of doom. The only light in this story is that none of these kids are dead.
I honestly feel like they knew this could end in the death of one of the kids but just didn't care.
The cops should dig up Jodi’s property. Given her history, there’s gotta be more victims. Maybe others weren’t as lucky as the Franke kids.
😮😢😢
Exactly!!! Frankes been doing messed up ish well before she came in contact w Jodi.
@@cynthiaroark1778 I've wondered the same thing. Between her niece & these children, were lots of years of God knows what. All those 'distortion' women should be questioned.
I don’t buy that Kevin is so innocent. Shame on him. They are his children and he let them down.
Absolutely not-although it looks like things became worse recently, even when they were together and posting on youtube, you could see things were not right. Kevin was still helping to make decisions when one of the boys was sleeping in communal room of the house with no bed for months. Ruby was just more upfront about her awful, abusive parenting.
Kevin has not been charged. He was not involved.
@@IndianOutlaw1870no he wasn't involved. But he never stepped in. His eldest daughter tried harder than him.
@@IndianOutlaw1870 That's called child neglect.
@@IndianOutlaw1870he's just as guilty for allowing it without reporting it. Shame
Kevin Franke should AT LEAST be charged with neglect of children. He was allowing all of this to go on.
Ruby wore the pants what u probably don’t know is Kevin always did. What ruby wanted ruby wore the pants what ever she said went that brings me to the point ruby blamed the marriage breaking down on Kevin and she said he was toxic she didn’t Want the kids around that but the thing she was apart of runined marriage s also Keven always was present holidays birthdays he was in the vlogs a those times the most cuz he too time off when u saw Kevin in the vlogs he was kind when kids were sick he was hands on also ruby as time went on she dint really let kids decorate the house how they wanted I rember that Kevin was with them and at first they were all awkward but by the end of the vlogs they were smiling Kevin did not know what was happening because he left because that’s what ruby wanted and he had no contact with his kids that’s what. Ruby wanted if he knew he would fight like he’s is now. He was away when all this happened almost a year
@@unicornssprinklebutt9988 Nope, total nonsense.
They're his children. His "excuse" is that he hadn't had anything to do with them for a year and his wife was being all crazy. THAT is neglect!
Keven , "kind" ? We sure see that when he is so angry that the police haven't arrested his eldest daughter that he informs them, in full on Karen tone, that he's going to make a complaint.
And that was while two of his children were the hospital! But was he worried about THEM? No. Just about retrieving electronics that had information on them.
There's zero evidence of this kindness in that ghastly UA-cam channel twaddle. Kevin crowing and happy about sending his eldest son to a camp which, "just like home" has no bed for his child.
Super duper kind.
@@unicornssprinklebutt9988If you're not man enough to step in and protect your own children, you do not deserve them.
Kevin knew what was going on and just stood by. Does not his religion admonish him to protect his children ?
This!!
Lesson learned:
Beware of those bloggers & influencers. Avoid them.
Not all of them are bad. You can't paint everyone with the same brush. There are good ones out there.
Who has time to watch all this crap on you tube. I like to watch videos of interesting stuff. But some holier than thou woman who is a terrible mother and thinks she’s wonderful is not it. Rather watch football stuff
More like beware of religious nutters
The oldest son is clearly completely traumatized by the situation and he’s now taking out his frustrations and anger on his younger siblings… This was so depressing to watch because I mean… how many families are out there and have no eyes on them doing the exact same thing? We NEED to protect THE children.
It’s amazing to me this neighbor felt more compassion than his own mom.
I think most sane people would have reacted with horror and tears.
Poor guy was so emotional seeing this little boy emaciated and wounded. Absolutely heartbreaking to hear him describe what he's seeing. I'm so happy this child found the strength and courage to ask for help! He truly is a hero for his siblings!
It is not surprising that her older son bullies his younger siblings. He is actually following mom’s example of what you do with power. Wouldn’t it be great if she had demonstrated support and nurturing, a more positive use of experience, age and power?
That's what I was thinking too 🤔
Thought the same thing
Agreed. I wonder what sort of a father he will be. Let's pray he never becomes one
Yes! this is the comment I was looking for. Monkey see monkey do
I use to watch them on yt way before all this happened and I don’t think Chad was a bully. He did classic older brother annoying things but nothing that was trying to manipulate them. From what I remember he was the one who would mostly make slight jabs at his moms rules and what him and his siblings missed out on. That’s why they sent him away to that wilderness camp (that was also very abusive)
Parents that make money from airing their children online are exploiting them. Its disgusting.
it would be different if they had the same protections as child actors and they made money that went it to accounts for them. Obviously I would want them treated well and since that doesn't seem to happen it totally is exploitation and its horrible. I wouldn't wish it on any child.
Her sister Bonnie is still exploiting her children every day
@@annieb0507 She is no Angel..........it's all about me me me and money. She is Fake also.
I agree. She didn't even LIKE her kids. Thry were a paycheck
Trisha Paytas!!
"I'm not going anywhere!"
Ah, yeah you are - TO PRISON!
“He was a great Dad.”
“He hasn’t seen the kids in years”
Yeah, says it all😂
Right!!!
"I can't stay with my wife anymore, shes too abusive to our kids so Im going to abandon them with their abuser instead" he left them with nobody in their corner
@@uggggggghhhhh I wounder if he tried. Society usually sees men as abusers... not women.
In a year, under advice of his therapist
I don't think she doesn't want the kids to testify to spare them, I think it's to spare MORE awful details of what she did, that they'd share
Obviously
As an elementary school teacher I find it difficult to accept an apparent mother saying a 6 year old is responsible for packing her lunch. She’s 6!!!b6 year old are not responsible for anything, they’re too young. Her attitude is alarming and heartless.
Hi there - I am the mother of a 7 year old girl over in England.
I agree with your comment, and I wonder if you might give your opinion on something!
My 7 year old daughter has a teacher who insists children pack their own food and school bags, including necessary homework for the day etc.
I believe that 7 is too young for this responsibility, especially when the children are in trouble if they forget something. I think you’re the first teacher that seems to agree with me!?
I’ve put a bag checklist up for her to make it easier…
@@meganclaridge2235does she want the kids to pack their bag on their own or with a parent bruising them?
@meganclaridge2235
I also agree with you Megan...and that teacher should be working in a supermarket,she couldn't be a teacher. Your litle boy's job is playing, see the world, learn the world, be a child..."she" knows nothing about children, her heart is dried and she is not your boss to decide if you prepare the lunch or not. Remember: each lunch you prepare tk your son is an act of love....don't let nobody steal it from you both! SHE IS NOT A TEACHER, dhe can't teach!
I packed my lunch from age 6 or 7 on and don’t think that’s anything crazy to expect. What’s abusive is refusing to help the child if they forget their lunch and letting them starve. If the kid forgets, something has to be done to ensure they still eat.
Even as an adult i forget my lunch but 6 year old is normal to forget. Noone learn from starving.
What’s even more frightening is that million people watched this and subscribed and probably used her tactics in raising their children.
Hopefully law enforcement in those cases didn't turn a complete blind eye to what was going on like they did with Ruby and Jodie for years.
Well yeah, also considering the fact that CPS themselves asked her for a parenting advice upon leaving her house !
@@polinalo1191I highly doubt it. Ruby is a narcissist. If she didn’t outright lie in that clip then she probably misconstrued what the agent said
@@Jocelynex yeah, it’s just that it was said in the video that the CPS were charmed by her and even asked for advice. She sugarcoated the reality so well that they were literally hypnotized
@@Jocelynex
Exactly.
Hearing Jesse talk about the torture and neglect they went through is so SICKENING. You have to be another type of evil to think it's okay to isolate and manipulate a minor who is trying to find their voice and confidence during that period in their life.
She's never forgotten to vlog, like she's never forgotten to eat and breathe herself. Unlike feeding her children...
She gets off on punishing her kids. She never once felt bad about the punishments. Jail is where she belongs.
No, did you watch this? LOL.
I remember how she just loved the thought of her 6 year old being hungry at school because she forgot her lunch. She even said that she hoped nobody at the school would give her any food so that she'd "learn her lesson."
one thing about jail, child abusers are often shanked
To have your own mother hold you under water close off your oxygen and kick you with her boots must be the most terrifying thing in the world to experience as a child! The one person that you define all safety and trust and love! Ruby destroyed everything she touched.
Woman of God 😂
The Mormon Cult teaches that if you don't follow their values and edicts exactly, you'll never be together with your family, and you'll go to the bad place when you die. So some parents freak out and go to extremes to ensure their children are "raised right" and don't end up in the bad place.
I can’t imagine the nightmares those kids are having. I shall 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 for them.
I think she is just misunderstood
@@epv3576 "There's more to the atrocity."
The husband was there for the bed being taken away & the refusal of lunch. He abandoned his children completely. This man is CULPABLE & he should NEVER get custody of his children. He should spend the rest of his life making up to his children for abandoning them when they needed him. The icing on the cake was when he wanted to press charges on his daughter for taking things from the home. This man is a SAD example of a father.
He was victim as well but I know men gets no sympathy
He could have reported her long time ago. He is not a victim
He already did get custody.
Grow up and man up. What a disgrace @@christopherlewis2194
@@christopherlewis2194A victim doesn’t watch from the sidelines while his wife abuses his kids.
The main point to take away from this: The daughter said they repeatedly reported them, and nothing was done by CPS. The only time action was taken was when the boy ran away, and a neighbor called the police where he pointed out all the injuries, and it could no longer be hidden from the public. Sickening.
"This hurts me as much as it hurts you." Actually, Ruby no it doesn't it hurts way worse. The woman is a monster.
I hope the man who made that 911 call got some therapy. Bless his heart, he was literally in tears.
Yes, I believe he lives in Arizona.
@FullSugarBrah lol too much dude
It occurs to me that it's the modern penchant for rushing off to so-called "therapy" for anything and everything that causes these problems in the first place.
It's not a mental health problem to be upset about something. It's an absolutely normal and healthy human response
Yes, sending him love. An amazing human.
@@splinterbyrd u have a clear mind
To make her 6’0 tall son sleep on a bean bag for SIX months is absolutely cruel. It’s sadistic. It’s not torture but it’s a new level of mean
Not advocating for what she did...but what would you have done considering why she took his room from him?
@@itsknotmagic not take his room away at all
I watched the video where Kevin justified his oldest son being sent away to that camp and sleeping on the bean bag for 6 months, with Ruby by his side. I think Kevin should be sent to the same camp for 6 months for being such a neglectful dad and not standing up for his children during 8 Passengers!
@@harper_anne2089 exactly and I know he wouldn’t have lasted out the four months, he was so cocky that they were doing it with a therapist who turned out to be Jodie. How did that work for him? I only wish Ruby could be given the same punishment that she dished out to RF and EF. I fear for them when they are adults because the amount of sunburn they have experienced, especially RF I’ve suffered over 10 years with skin cancer, and it’s not an easy journey and I was never burnt to the extent that they have. 😢
What if it was one of those really nice bean bags
Many of us called this way before this happened. Her abusive ways were all over her videos and no one took us serious.
I noticed how her kids were timid on her videos.
exactly, the petition and even her sister Bonnie was called to UA-cam HQ because of her kids always being in the ER in her videos and they still get to be on UA-cam exploitation
Look at her face. It says everything.
Right. We could all see the signs of ab*se way before this all happened. Those poor little kids.
She is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
love how she says "its not funny" while she herself is laughing and grinning huge
Those two women together - there is physical intimacy. In their body language, their postures as they pose together, everything.
Crocodile tears. Ruby is a demon. And there is no shred of doubt in my mind that Kevin knew his kids were in danger, he just didn't care. He left his children in the care of demons.
"A man of God" 🙏
Yup, demonically possessed individuals.
Religious people are so dangerous. Why are they so hateful?!
It’s hard to even look at her. She’s the epitome of smug & self-serving.
She won't be so smug when she's in the slammer. She'll be lucky if she makes it a year.
She is so cringe and weird
She thinks she is fooling everyone with her innocent behavior. She is evil incarnate
That's what I thought the first time I saw her, this is the second vid I've seen of her and that other awful woman!
I don't remember what the other vid was about but I remember thinking that I didn't like either of them!!
I couldn't put my finger on why but I never ignore that feeling that somethings off!
For example..
This guy was upset with me cuz I wouldn't be his gf, or prolly just that I wouldn't sleep w/him.
He damaged my car.
But about a decade later I found out he'd been in prison for DV!
My mom met him, he worked at the bingo hall, told me he was cute!
SMH 🤦♀️
Mom's not always right!
@@mdaze9753I think it's moreso well maybe that and their religion and their nice clean shiny life!
The house is beautiful and they dress like celebrities or like they're gonna be in a magazine.
Is this another Chrisley Knows Best?
My mom loved that show!
She gives off narcissistic vibes so I'm surprised that she took responsibility for her actions!
That's the right thing to do for those kids tho!
Looking forward to sentencing!
CPS in that state needs to be investigated. They denied those poor kids help so many times. There should be stricter rules or something, this is ridiculous.
It is Utah so they lean HEAVILY towards the parents side over the child...as these families always 5-9 children....its sort of a inner cult. A wink wink nudge nudge, because almost all those type of jobs in Utah are held by Mormons..as are the family court judges. Not a good state to be a child in
The whole area is run by Mormons and different rules apply unfortunately
Absolutely. Whole of Utah's system, wether its law enforcement or CPS is a discusting corrupt failure.
No hope there....
@@karyng4448 Typical religious hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do...
@@karyng4448Never been to UT but that sounds about right
Imagine being jailed for theft and having Ruby Franke as a roomate in prison. Jesus.
“We have to seperate to save our marriage” what kind of oxymoronic nonsense is that???
That s what Jodi told Ruby and also how Jodi destroyed many families. The man loved Ruby so much he almost signed off his house. He was gaslit, manipulated, decieved, abused ... you name it.
Punishes her son for months by taking away his bedroom, personal space and then proceeds to allow everyone to laugh while she has a smirk? She's twisted.
They were laughing at the cruel "pranks" done to the young boy by his older brother. Wonder where Chad got that from. But I agree she's twisted.
But he was really mean to his brother!?!
He was cruel. But the consequences were crazy. And look how quickly he backed down. He was scared.
I‘m a mom and I laughed hard at the prank. I would have encouraged him to think of more similar pranks. I thought that was so funny 😅.
I thought of one:"Yes Mom, you're in a care home but I love you and will call every day and visit every weekend!" @@tizitapusch9780
I hope Kevin doesn't get custody over children. If he cared for them he wouldn't accept to be away from them for a year and to not know their whereabouts!
Plus, HE blocked his children's numbers on his phone. If they wanted it needed to reach him, for help, he made it so they couldn't.
Agreed!! He took NO responsibility for his own children. He should have taken her to court and fight for custody then.
Not a single member of that family should be allowed anywhere near those kids.
And then the people claim men and women have equal rights, it's not neglect if a man stays away and leaves his children to their fate, but if a woman does it.. He was there when his son slept on a bean bag for 7 months for a little prank against his younger brother.. He probably heard her say when his son laughed about it "oh you're laughing so you haven't learned yet, I think we need to have you sleep on the floor longer" imo, he's just as guilty. But atst these things happen every day everywhere and nobody will ever be punished for it, for at least Christians are taught to honor their mother and father.
The way he wanted to press charges on the eldest daughter tells you everything you need to know about him
The internet has turned some parents insane. Constantly sharing your children with the world for money is sick
I won't even post photos of my family on social media.
Especially not my grandkids.
It's complete and utter narcissism.
And the idiots following them 🤦♀️🤦♀️😂😂
@@petersmithyy4556 eve Uttaranchal. S
If i were to post minor children i would be asking permission to their parents before posting.
I’m happy to say I had never heard her name until she was on national news. But this is so heartbreaking.
I’ve never heard of her until today 👀
Just imagine the advise they gave out to parents… and they LISTENED.
No “good” dad is not seeing his kids for a year… there’s no way any man doesn’t know what his kids are going through
That's right no matter what blame the men
I agree he had to have knew.
@@christopherlewis2194 who’s blaming him? I’m saying he knew something.
How do you know he knew something?
@@TheOnlyGuitarFatherare you the dad?
My youngest son repeatedly forgot to bring his lunchbox back from school. My “punishment” was to pack his lunch in a brown paper bag the next day. This would remind him to grab the lunchbox and put it in his backpack. Easy peasy. No need to ever be unkind to your kids
You are not a sociopath.
I'm a father of 2 who are now teenagers, the details of this scum treating her children actually made me feel physically sick. Now I have a very strong stomach but I barely made it through this video.
She should be subjected to the EXACT treatment her kids experienced, I firmly believe that
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I agree
Yep. Eye for an eye justice!
YES PLEASE MAY I WATCH
I felt same way!
He started the video saying "worldwind" and halfway through the video I still can't stop thinking about it.
Yes. That sounded so ridiculous. 😮
I am really happy, that her subscribers didn't just follow her blindly, but were analyzing what she says and shows, bringing attention to what was wrong
You were never at battle, Ruby. You just needed to feed and be nice to your kids.
“I’m not going anywhere.” -Ruby
That didn’t age well.
Breaking doctor/patient confidentiality should warrant a permanent suspension/expulsion.
She certainly is a PSYCHOtherapist.
Very well said!
I completely agree. My therapist did the same thing when she discussed my private info with my husband. Now I don't trust any of them.
When it’s a MINOR that doesn’t apply with parents.
@@Skyismify ummm you found a new therapist right??
@@SkyismifyYou don’t trust any of them because of one bad experience?
I can’t believe she got so many followers sharing this craziness!!
This boy had such sad eyes..😮My oldest son is 16 and it hurts my heart of Mum of 4❤ to see this young man so 😢.
She had a wonderful life. She had money and 6 healthy kids. She had everything one could ask for. Feeling really sick that one mother could do this, she isn't at all in remorse.
Well they had money after exploiting their children 😢 things were always bad, but escalated to the worst
@@andreasolis85not for her. Her life has been wonderful but for her kids, things were terrible.
Yes, a good life and 6 healthy kids!!!? Terrible, she didn't deserve those kids.
ITS NOT HER BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN ITS MY OPINION
Having 6 kids is a wonderful life? That sounds horrific haha
I hope Netflix makes a documenting about this and we discover more of Kevin’s role in all of this. He is NOT innocent
Oh man totally agree!!
Stop trying to blame the man she did it Y'all bihz ain't sh+t
As much as everyone wants to know about it, don't you think the kids deserve some peace? You think you want anymore of their life store out for everyone to see?
@@christopherlewis2194 So dad has no responsibility for his children other than being a sperm donor? It's called neglect. Parents are supposed to protect their children, even (especially) if the abuser is their other parent.
Imagine if this was Kevin abusing his children-you’d just assume Ruby was guilty too?
It’s a shame this didn’t happen before the oldest son turned 18. He needs help and he doesn’t seem like the type to choose to go to therapy.
Why because you say he needs help?not everyone needs therapy,I'm 51+live in England+can't think of anyone I know or known who has been to therapy,we must be just better adjusted
Ok.....and?? @@craigoliver8712
Nah mate, you just drink all the time. @@craigoliver8712
@@craigoliver8712 that you don't kmow anyone doesn't mean they wouldn't benefit from attending
@@craigoliver8712 And this is why the UK has one of the highest rates of adult male unaliving, especially the north.
The role of "religion" in this should not be ignored. It should be studied and countered. Religious organizations are given too much deference, in this country and too kuch power over our lives. These are institutions run by human beings, susceptible to greed, lust, sociopathy, and psychopathy. There are few, if any, checks and balances to counter this negative influence.
Her eldest son's prank on his sibling was massively cruel
Precisely, and one wonders what kind of father he's going to make after all this
Taught by his parents so not all his fault
Thank you for sharing this video essay/timeline.
While Ruby is pointing the finger at Jodi, she can’t blame Jodi for her bad behaviour and treatment of ALL those kids in the YEARS preceding August 2023.
Ruby filmed and uploaded very concerning behaviours. Viewers of those videos were concerned about the children. Some people contacted the authorities.
Both of these women need to be looked at very closely. Both have a history of abusive and controlling behaviour and BOTH need to be investigated for their actions before they met, before August 2023.
Ruby should not be allowed to simply blame Jodi for everything that happened.
The dude needs to be charged as well. NO EXCUSE.
Going to a camp and sleeping rough is part of the experience.
Sleeping on the floor at home because your mom took away your room is something completely different and wrong.
Exactly.
yes however in this case the "wilderness camps" mentioned are well known to have extremely poor conditions. usually it involves kids sleeping in outdoor conditions for months, sometimes years. its not just "camping".
sleeping on the floor here - bad. sleeping on the floor there - good. makes sense.
Being exposed to sunburns as a child sets a person up for melanoma later in life; I hope they will get regular skin checks after all the burns they endured. I was also suspicious of Kevin’s concern for his kids. When Ruby sent him the emergency text, he responded that he was at work. A caring father would have asked what was going on and ask if the kids were alright.
Well, he was kicked out before. So, what is was he supposed to do receving a text message from the beatch who betrayed him
@@LenaLipnicit's not like he had no clue what she was doing.. just typical Mormon things. 😊
It’s disgusting. She stopped to vlog so she could do all these atrocities.
When you have really good kids and you make them feel like they they are bad....
So Randy Kester, "Mr. Attorney" says that Kevin Franke "LOVED" his children not present tense, "love"????? that's very telling!
He's so creepy. I noticed that as well. "Loved"
Makes you wonder, how many people followed her advice, and treat their kids just like her.
So Kevin got Ruby how many times pregnant, before he realized that woman is cruel to their children? Seriously!
When strangers are more compassionate to children then their own parents. How sad.
Never let this woman out of jail!
Treat her like she treated her children!!!
And the spineless Father…
What a disgrace of a man 🤮
Narcissism is already strong in her oldest son. They learn it from their mom. In general. If someone feels the urge to display you and your family to millions of strangers, that should be considered as a red flag. Also who need parental advice from someone doing that?
How many other Ruby Frankes are still out there that we don't know about?
Millions.
The “natural consequence” of forgetting to pack a lunch isn’t inherently that her kid would be hungry. That’s A POSSIBLE consequence. But it could’ve been that she learned she could make a mistake or forget something and that people around her loved her and would be willing to have her back. Like, wow, that alone is so cold. And way to make it about the teachers discomfort. Wow.
I can't imagine that any caring mom would allow her child to go hungry in school!
I agree to a certain degree. It depends on the age and the entire situation with the child. For example, if a kid's consistently for getting their lunch or for getting their gym clothes then yeah the natural consequences should follow. The parents shouldn't bail them out
I hate the religious types that are only religious within their own parameters like Ruby
Same. Complete false Christians. With their values, they clearly don’t worship MY god.
Those types are ironic
The baffling part is that the father is not being held accountable. As if it is solely the mother’s responsibility to be nurturing and caring.
For what I’ve seen around several youtube channels, the father was fully aware.
UA-cam should just not allow family channels to thrive with children on it.
Many people are complaining now, but many were seeing the content and this encouraged the parents to do vile things to their kids for views and likes.
They both should be put into prison 15 years this is absolutely sickening! Ruby should never get to see her kids! I am sorry she is evil!
Why you sorry?
15 years??? Life!.
That older boy is just as scary with his complete callousness to his little brother's pain
He was taught by her to be that way
Kevin is just as guilty as she is... he allowed and watched what happened there for years.
I would never let anyone do something like that to my child ...never....
If I had just one thought like that... I would seek treatment . Starving, standing in the sun for hours, no friends, wounds...diving into ice water .....and and and.....
it hasn't been for a year ...but years ..... The eldest daughter had broken off contact with both parents ...The divorce thing is just to make him seem innocent... shame on u both
Maybe he was another one of her torture victims
@@Uncle_Shamnah, he’s just weak and went along with whatever she said in order to have continued access to her.
100% he should face some punishment also.
@@Uncle_Sham when he was a victim..why did he say he didn't want to separate when Hildebrand said they should be separated for a while ....and the and the real problem....why didn't he make sure he took the children with him....with all the UA-cam evidence and child abduction he could definitely have taken legal action ...100%
He didn't care... I was a victim of domestic violence for years... the day he started threatening our son I went to the police and court and never looked back ....
@@kitty_cato you talk like you were there with them, you assume a lot
That is why it is important to know what information you are taking away from social media. Social media have turned people into experts on things they are not.
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My daughter has 3 sons and she's far stricter than I care for. But after watching this sick woman, I'm no longer worried about the boys. None of them have had to explain themselves like Chad has had to do. They prank their brothers, but when it goes a bit far they get grounded for a week. They always have a room and a bed...
WHERE is the arrest warrant for her co-abuser/co-monster Kevin??!!
Kevin didn’t speak up likely because Ruby could’ve pulled a snitches get stitches
Having children changes you. It makes you softer, more loving and caring. The thought of hurting my children or any child is unthinkable. Those poor kids. Why bother having babies if you dont love and want to hurt them.
It's about the control over their kids. Some people are not so lucky to have caring parents such as yourself and get stuck with the narcissistic ones
Exactly! I have two nephews , 7 and 2 and the thought of even making them cry makes me sick. They are literally spoiled and are my heart; literally they are like my kids.
the saddest thing about this is, imagine how many family vloggers are still hiding behind their fake positivity. if you guys really think that this is rare, then you cant see through the real problems that social media has overall.
I completely agree!!
If they're a family vlogger then they are an abuser. No sane person makes content out of their children.
Van life parents need to be the next to be scrutinised - they always have a separate bedroom with a door, and their children sleep on shelves in the living space, have no privacy, no space of their own, no structure, no friends, no access to proper school… denying children all of this is not OK.
I love rubys "im not going anywhere"
Surprise !!! Yes, you went somewhere ...
I laughed so hard when she said that.
But now shes isnt going anywhere, right? 😅
My son is 8 and forgot his book bag last week with his lunch in it yea it was inconvenient but as a mom I do not expect him to be flawless, I went back and brought it. Yesterday I forgot my wallet, did I think I was deserving of a punishment? No. Mistakes happen
That sneaky husband needs to be held accountable, too.
Kevin - they are coming for you next dude. Watch…
Kevin and Ruby both failed their children. Kevin is no better of a parent than ruby is, he abandoned his children when they needed him most and tried to have his oldest child arrested for taking his stuff from the house all while all of this stuff was happening with his other children.
I love the thought of the other moms in prison finding her papers🙏
Right! Most of those ladies want to go home to their babies
Not sure how long she will make it in prison.
And I hope she NEVER feels one second of peace. Never knowing when someone will decide to jump her or worse.
Right! I heard that prisoners who are parents themselves would go after child abusers in pretty bad way, sometimes kills them.
In a jailhouse phone conversation Ruby’s question to Kevin “Are WE in the news?” Was incredible. The all knowing and wise Ruby hasn’t a clue!
This was the first video I watched on this channel. I found it informative and fair.
I NEVER in a MILLION years would've thought Ruby would end up in PRISON!!! KEVIN needs to join her. UA-cam needs to do away with family channels. The millions she made of the backs of her children is being used to pay her lawyers!
I believe it's off UA-cam, I ain't seen it or found it
@@Ittybitty733 yeah that is because she had deleted the family channel long before she was arrested for this...
Maybe the father is another one of her torture victims
@@Uncle_Sham that dude was definitely NOT a vic. At all. He knew exactly what was happening before he left.
@@2TexasTuff how come you havent come forward as a witness against him then. Go ahead contact the police since you know
This is crazy. It would have had to take a child passing away for them to get caught if the little boy never spoke up. 😢
I think there's a very good chance part of the reason she pled guilty to the charges so soon and with very little fight is because she's done worse and doesn't want further things uncovered during a trial
It was a part of her plea bargain deal.
I 100% agree. Tip of the iceberg.
"It hurts me just as much as it hurts my kids..."
I dispute that. I feel that the thrill and satisfaction of complete and utter control was her payment and reward. None of this, in the minds of even the strictest parents I know, would be deemed proportional or necessary.
It's hurtning now though, huh?
Kevin, to say that you LOVE your children and still be out of contact with them for a year with an unhinged mother is rather strange but, to each his own I guess
I did not know about the last punishments. Incredible. For me, the unforgivable situation was when Ruby was driving their kids somewhere and witnessed a car crash that occured very near them. She suddenly started scolding her kids in a manner of a "life lesson", that they should have been the ones that crashed and possibly died. That, for a kid, is so traumatizing.
What a sick nasty person I hope she rots in jail
I am sorry...WHAT?! Did she do that in a video?
The father didn't seem to care for a year.
Being with someone like her is exhausting & he lost his nuts.
Any mother who DOES NOT CARE if her child eats should be divorced immediately and thrown out.
and then the courts will give the children to the mom and steal half the man's money. and you women will say its justice and girl boss power.
CPS needs to be sued. They are the absolute worst. I am so sick of hearing about these cases, where someone could have done something before it got this bad, but CPS walks away with a , "Oh, they seem okay". Idiots 😡🤮
It is horrendous what those children suffered at the hands of both parents, but especially at Hildebrandt's house.
What popular people show on social media, and what happens at their homes when no one is watching, are completely different things...
i mean... ruby did show what a horrible and abusive mother she could be in her own videos. it looked terrible with just what she wanted her audience to see.
@MrCrimeVideo well….yeah 🥴
Actually, she did show it on social media, and a lot of people reported her for it.
Kevin was part and parcel to the 'discipline' and shouldn't be allowed contact unless supervised IMO.
Then how come the kids havent said anything bad about him
@@Uncle_Sham probably because he's less strict than his wife. But if you had followed the 8 passengers you would know he totally supported the Hildabrant lady's "counseling".
@@ontherocksinthesoilmichael6739 one of those kids would have spilled the beans on him at this point
Absolutely! A bystander is just as guilty. Hopefully he gets his own help, but as far as the kids, supervision is a must
I didn't realize how neglectful and irresponsible my dad was until I was in my 40s, because what did I have to compare to? My abusive & neglectful mother. My dad was the lesser of two evils, so I considered myself daddy's girl. Daddy definitely taught me how to use drugs and have fun, while turning a blind eye to everything my mother put me through. He worked the majority of his life under the table to avoid paying child support for all the kids he had with several different women. Kids, even at 18, don't often know better, especially when they're still negatively impacted by the trauma and haven't begun to heal.
People have had problems with BOTH the parents well before Ruby met Jodie!!!! Both parents are abusive to those children!!!!
exactly.
Thank you!! I have been saying the same thing.. That man also wanted to have his daughter arrested.. He needs to be punished as well but, they are trying to make him a victim of Jody H!! I don't get it.. 🤨
How come none of the kids have said anything bad about the dad?
Because they are their parents! No matter what they put them through they still love them and care about them because they are their parents! I know it sounds crazy but it's true. 😔
@@lynetteeaster2918 one of them wouldve said something
Some people truly should never have kids. I can't imagine the trauma that these kids will carry for the rest of their lives...