2015 Roush Mustang with a problem so small the CAR WIZARD is so happy he doesn't have to fix it!
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2023
- This sweet 2015 Roush Stage One Mustang has a problem so small the CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ doesn't even fix it. What could it be and why isn't it getting corrected?
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The one thing that no 4 cylinder is going to replace is the sound that a performance built V-8 engine makes through a nice performance exhaust system
Yea I may be stuck in the past but I could never get over a mustang that sounds like a civic, the V8s are a must for muscle cars. I get they can make more power with less but the exhaust notes will always be the biggest casualty of modern/future cars. Dont even mention the Charger Daytona EV Dodge is building, going from the Hellcat to artificial vacuum cleaner sounds brings a tear to my eyes
That 4 cylinder engine is a highly stressed engine. Wonder how long before it needs an overhaul.
Yes that's that worries me about this trend to use smaller engines started with the Audi TT 1.8 turbo with 225 bhp
and especially in the explorer use!
pretty heavy vehicle, especially when loaded or towing!!!
i mean, how can they assure the buyer the energy used will not stress the engine out of existence at 100K
@@paulpellico3797 that's a good point
When turbos are also referred to as "forced induction" you know there's more chance for premature problems.
Forcing anything in life is usually never a good thing.
@@jakehoyer6152 Yes cant beat the old V8 engine tough as old boots
For me I chose the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8 over the EcoBoost 4 cylinder anyday.
I love my Mustang, a 2002 GT, with a manual transmission, and I am hoping to get a new one in a year or two, in addition, but I can't see myself spending Roush money on a 4-cyl auto, no matter how powerful that 2.3 turbo is.
Its not for you but I can tell you this on a mtn road this thing would make you smile. The balance of these 4 turbo mustangs is great
We get it, you're stuck in the past. You don't have to tell us that you have a mAnUaL tRaNsMiSsIoN.
@@jasonthach44 lets be real here, the auto is stupid with the 2.3 turbo. A complete let down
@@jasonthach44 I have a Manual Transmission on my V8 GT because every car I owned has had a Manual, even my old Honda Civic. It's just more fun that way. It has nothing to do with being "stuck in the past" as much as it does with enjoyment of driving. I have access to an Automatic Ferrari 488 when I need a track day.
It’s not being stuck in the past to own a manual transmission. It not being stuck with the mindset “oh I can’t drive a manual transmission “
Everyone has their preference, personally I love the sound of a V-8. My 2011 Coyote has 120k miles and can get 25mpg on the highway if I can keep my foot out of it. But what fun is that? Yes I'm old school but mines also an automatic.Love the channel !
The only thing to dislike about the ecoboost is the sound. It's impressive otherwise, though. I actually pushed my mom into one since she wanted a mustang. She loves it so far!
How many things have broken on it so far?
110k on my 2015 GT, rock solid as well
The coyote is the worse sounding v8 ever. Sorry. Ford has always made the best sounding v8s and I'm a chevy and dodge guy. But those coyotes sound like a v6 especially at high rpms
2.3L turbo automatic is an excellent rental car. Decently quick, 30+mpg highway.
For a single person it’s a perfect commuter car for sure.
@@TSL73 perfik for yoo then 😂
Rental, commuting, touring and road trips, it is VERY good for all the normal uses.
Sure the V8 is better for weekend fun, but to actually use it, this one is better.
V8 is good for enthusiasts, but as an enthusiast claiming that this is a bad vehicle just shows that you need to compensate a lot, most people won’t be using 200 of the 450hp and can’t even control them properly. It’s a good looking car for someone who wants a peppy daily driver.
@@DarkDeath-yg7nv cmon now some respect
My 2011 3.7l V-6 6-speed has 305hp, a Roush exhaust and is a blast to drive. I get 32mpg on a trip. I love it.
Honestly I thought it was a modified 3.7 before he opened the hood
"I love seeing these in my rear view mirror" What a nice and subtle jab. I love you Wizard.
Wizard, I own a 2013 Mustang with the V6 Cyclone engine and I love it. I also have the 6 speed auto. I purchased the vehicle used and it is exactly what I was seeking. I know how to drive a manual shift, but chose to see out the the auto. 305hp on 87 octane is enough power for me, and if I use 93 octane the owner's manual tells me the computer will change the engine timing and provide 25 more hp. There is no way I would have purchased one of those 2.3l eco-boost things. The engines are just not reliable. They have head gasket issues among other problems. I prefer a normally aspirated engine. The reason I did not get a 5.0l Mustang was purely due to the cost of insurance. Even at my age of 70 yrs young, the cost of insurance was astronomical. I will state that both of my vehicles get pampered. I maintain my vehicles as I maintain an airplane.
The 5.0 Coyote is a lot more reliable than the ecoboost range of engines.
V8s will be collectors items, plenty of people want them.
if the market stops providing V8´s or bigger people will just go to costume shops more considering that most V8´s and bigger are already at a price range where people dont have an issue just going full costume anyway.
Tho the pain reason bigger engines for the big manufacturers are going away is because those engines are expensive to produce and also last decently long. Far better for them to upsell cheaply made small engine that gets pushed extremely hard and breaks after 100k km. European car manufacturers have been doing this for a rather long time already, using small engines pushed really hard and we all know how well the euro cars last.
That said those smaller engines with a lot of HP are great to drive, just dont buy them rather rent them if you want.
My wife has a 17 ecoboost mustang. Really impressive. They can make even more power with a bigger turbo, intercooler and tune. I grew up in the era of very anemic 4 cylinders. They've really come a long way
No they haven’t.. it’s called turbo.
@@the8419 yes they have. Non turbo wise, drive a 4 cylinder from an 80s car, then drive one from the last 10 years...
@@the8419 yeah and a 4 cyl with a turbo wears out faster than a NA 4 cyl
@@dalesmith4985 ok and
@Dale smith that's why ford uses eco boost in its marketing gimmicks, internally it's known to all the top brass as eco scrap as they're designed to not last long so they can sell the dummies that buy them another new car every 5 years or so
Hey Wizard. For your next "buy this not that" style video, a cool idea would be to make a video ranking most all car brands commonly seen in the US, and list a few reasons why their good or bad, or both. You could also mention their best engines and car models and also some of their biggest failures. But I'm sure if you do that kind of video, it will turn out great whatever way you do it
The Car Wizard will do this segment soon.
HE's done it already
The 1967 Mercury Cougar had concealed headlights and sequential tail lights. Quite the eye candy.
How to scare the car wizard? Bring in a BMW.
14:18 only guys who sit when they go potty would take a 4 cylinder Mustang over v8. Did he really say the v8 is not that much more powerful? 310 hp vs 435 hp in 2015.
maybe but sounds like v8 will be a thing of the past apparently.
Alright, i come to the shop with an E60 with the N52B25 engine and 180.000km on the clock.
You will be disappointed, in what good shape it is. No malfunction or check engine light. Blinker fluid is perfectly clear and filled to the top🤏
And no, i am not really a BMW guy.
Tell us you’re insecure and need a V8 to feel like a man without telling us. You probably call yourself an alpha male too. 😂
460 hp in 2018, love my 5.0
@F165 You have no clue what goes into producing a car do you? I can think of lots of reasons someone might not buy a V8. Maybe they can't swing the monthly payment. Then there is insurance, gasoline, maintenance, etc. Lenders will require purchasing full coverage to protect their investment in the car loan. Comprehensive coverage on a new car can easily double the monthly payment. Insurance rates skyrocketed on these specialty cars especially in the 1980s and 1990s. In fact in ENDED the production of numerous specialty cars (Honda CRX, Nissan 240SX) just to name a few. Manufacturers spread out the production costs over the entire production run. Would you rather spread the costs over 10,000 vehicles or one million? Do you want these cars to be available to everyone or just a few rich people? There's your answer to why not everyone buys a V8.
I rented an EcoPower Mustang in New York in 2018. I was disappointed at first that it wasn't a V8, but then I started driving it. It's not bad at all, even stock. It's got great power and a nice ride. Was awesome to cruise Manhattan and Long Island all the way up to the North Fork.
You don’t need much power in 10 mph bumper to bumper NYC traffic. I can do that in a geo metro.
I'm the original owner of a 2016 Mustang Ecoboost. I ordered it from the factory with a 6 speed manual and the Ecoboost Performance Package. I love this car, especially now that it's no longer my daily driver and it's paid for. I've started modifying it, starting with the exhaust system. The MBRP exhaust is perfect for waking up these cars, it makes you not sound like a Honda Accord driving by 😅
Some people give that little engine hate. It's actually pretty good. I don't get all hate at times. It's still a mustang even if it's not the v8. Besides the gt350, the ecoboost probably handles the best stock for stock
A 4 banger mustang. Lol 😂. At least it won't crash into crowds.
I bought new a 2015 Mustang GT convertible. It has 435hp on regular gas and I get over 25mpg on the highway. 42,000 miles and I do all the maintenance. Transmission, filter, rear diff, spark plugs, coolant. Zero issues and no leaks anywhere. Yes the V8 is going away but it will outlast a turbo.
That depends though. My old Saab 9000 has ~275tmls on the clock, no turbo issues.
Agreed 100% brother
@@vibingwithvinyl LOL Saabs will out live us all!
It's beautiful. I have a 2017 Mustang Ecoboost, with the 6-speed manual. Fast car for what it is.
Well larger engines are going away because of emissions and fuel economy not because people don't want them. I think there are many people who do want them but doesn't make sense due to all the extra costs that are being applied to larger engines and general fuel costs.
The government is the reason why big engines are going away.
This is the reality. CAFE standards are forcing the big engines out.
Back in the 80’s they made the SVO mustang with the turbo 4 and the Merkur XR4Ti. They are still loved by their clubs
There's no question that you can get a lot of power and performance from today's 4-cylinder engines, The trade-off's the question - like engine life!
Turbo four will never outlast a v8.
@@Eddie-yc5yd Absolute rubbish. I have Saab Turbos ranging from 160,000 miles to 341,000 miles.
@@dj_paultuk7052 Average American thinks oil is for the life of the car. Watch 'Just Rolled In". You only get high miles out if you do the maintenance RELIGIOUSLY and at more frequent intervals than the manual says>>no 10,000 mile oil changes.
@@dj_paultuk7052 The turbo Saabs of yester year were a completely different animal though. They were built for durability and longevity. Todays turbo 4s aren't built for that. They are built with cost cutting and ease of manufacturing in mind. Durability isn't even an afterthought in todays cars. And lets face it, the turbos in old SAABS never lasted near as long as the car did. I had a few of them back in the day and not one turbo lasted more than 150k miles. That is an expensive repair you'll never have with a NA V8 engine.
I made the mistake of buying an Ecoboom Mustang. Purchased new in 2018. I currently have 33k miles on it and already replaced one motor after the bottom end blew itself up. I've maintained it perfectly. Worst of all I was out of pocket on engine replacement due to simple bolt ons.
Everyone do yourself a favor avoid these like the plague.
I agree with that engine size, Wizard. I’ve driven the 4 cylinder and 5.0 of the current generation, and while the 5.0 is really cool and powerful, the 4 cylinder is still a ton of fun, especially on twisty roads.
And a lot easier on gas!😊
The pedestrian brake rotors and calipers on that thing are embarrassing.
The rotors really need to fill the rim. Makes the car look like it's on tippy toes if it's got big wheels and little brakes
Most brand new vehicles are all going to smaller, turbocharged four-cylinder and turbocharged six-cylinder engines for the gasoline models, as well as electric and hybrid models. This is the reason, to look for and buy a used vehicle, that is reliable and fuel-efficient, as well as it is safe to drive. Thank you very much and have a great rest of the day.
I would love the 5.0L V8 with the 6 speed Manual 😊
Looks real nice and are powerful enough,but it is missing one important thing.the sound😊
My neighbor has one and the first time he revved it I thought it was broken, but nope it sounds like a ricer. It is just as fast as my wife's challenger and it has the 5.7 V8, amazing how much power a turbo adds to smaller engines.
Nice car, the 2.3 is underappreciated and these engines can make stupid horsepower. The only thing wrong with them IMHO is that they don't sound that good with an exhaust.
The shifter looks a lot like the one in my '14 Cayman S with PDK.
Great video!
they castrated the 2.3l in the focus st and ecoboost mustang in europe
@@Chris-hw4mq The 2.5l version in the RS most definitely wasn't castrated though!
@@cambridgemart2075 2.5l was a gem of an engine
Sadly the block is weak, and these make gobs of torque that doesn’t end well lol
@@169abr On some models of this Mazda-based engine there were head gasket issues, but I'm pretty sure they have worked that out.
I just bought a 5 liter v8 supercharged car. Long live those cars.
I owned a 2017 I-4 and loved every minute of it. It was powerful enough to get me around town and I loved the pickup. That car was a retirement present to myself, but unfortunately we had to part ways as the paint started peeling. My Grabber blue baby started flaking paint.. I hope this sounds familiar to some of you. I traded it in 2021 and yes I bought the Mach E. I loved that car and enjoyed every minute of ownership till the recalls came in. 😢
I finally sold it back as the dealership was scared to do the recall service saying that if they broke the windshield, there was no telling how long it would take for a replacement. Farewell range anxiety and hello Lexus.😊
I had a 2015 4 cylinder mustang for years. A quick tune and that thing made enough torque to bust the tires loose in second when the boost came on, they’re no joke. Still got 30mpg on long trips, I miss that thing.
Society has changed since the 60's and 70's. Back then people would buy a car and keep it for decades. Manufacturers tried to make them last way past the warranty period. Nowadays it doesn't make sense for the manufacturers to make a car that will last more than the warranty period because the original owner will trade it in after three years anyway. Hence the smaller, lighter motors. They won't last as long but the original owner doesn't care.
Exactly mate
Nope>>back then the warranty was only 1 year and after that they wanted you to buy a new car. People DID NOT keep their car for decades (unless they were poor) because they rusted out, the trans dies or the engine burned great quantities of oil IF it made it to 100,000 miles.
This was a really wise purchase back in 2015 (as nobody knew how much gas would go up in the years ahead). Great car!
Also used in the Focus RS developing 350hp and lots of warranty claims
V8 is more reliable though (yes, more parts that a 4 cylinder engine), but if you ask any engineer, turbocharged engines wear out faster due to extra pressure in the engine, gas engines that is, and I’ve seen the old V8 Mustangs with 250K miles still going pretty good. Don’t know about a turbo 4 cylinder, especially in a car that weighs this much. A V8 could handle more strain and keep being reliable, but not a turbocharged 4 cylinder. Yes, a turbo 4 might have lots of power, but it won’t last as long, especially with the way people drive mustangs.
The old vw and Audi 1.8t best turbo motors you can buy going 300 to 400 thousand miles as long as you do timing belt and water pump and also the timing chain tension in the back of the engine
My ‘14 GT Mustang with the 6 speed manual has 104k, only mechanical part in all those miles was a water pump. Great daily driver and all us old guys just grin at the sound of the 5.0, it’s a symphony under the hood. 😅
@CarWizard, I'm sure that you're aware that the sequential tail light feature is a Ford corporate homage to the late 60's Mercury Cougar/Monterey/Park Lane, etc. lineup.
It's a Roush stage 1. The stage 3 ones are the beasts with the Supercharged V8s.
the Wizard forgot to mention smaller engines with Hybrid or plug-in Hybrid assist replacing larger engines as well, the electric part of the drive train really helps the smaller engines sound less stressed when being driven hard
"Sound less stressed when being driven hard". .... You clearly know _nothing_ about why Mustang owners love their V8's - its all about the sound they make when you put your foot on the gas! 😀
V8s are cool no doubt. I am at least as old as David, so going 'fast' doesn't matter to me anymore. I really enjoy my old V6 Mustang and it's somewhat lumpy idle. It moves along easily ahead of 90% of traffic if you really must. Just enjoy it for what it is.
But, Wizard, have you seen a turbo 4 with 500,000 miles on the original engine like you did with the Toyota you showed a few episodes back?
Somebody put 1,000,000 miles on their Saab 900 turbo.
@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 well gona have to ask for proof for that
I've owned three different vehicles with that 2.3L turbo 4 engine... A 2015 Mustang convertible, a 2019 Ranger XLT, and now a 2022 Bronco. It's a great little engine. Far more power than you'd expect from such a small engine -- especially if you put 93 octane fuel in it. But even with 87 octane it's still more than enough power.
When you said "severely disappointed" I knew that it was the 4, not the 6. It's still amazing the power they can pull. Do they last?
My neighbor has the I4 ecoboost and when i first heard it, I thought it was broken as it sounds like a ricer, not that famous 5.0 growl. He hasnt had any problems as far as I know, and its a few yars old now. It is pretty quick, its just as fast as my wife's Challenger RT which has the 5.7 hemi, but way more weight.
@@mryoung0412 V6 with the Roush catback sounds mean,.
The only issue that I’m aware of with these engines is the valves get carboned-up over time. But that’s common to all direct-injection engines, because they don’t have fuel spraying on the backs if the valves to keep them clean.
So every 70-80 thousand miles or so, you need to have the valves cleaned.
@@LMacNeill Add a water-methanol injection setup to help keep charge temps down (especially when tuned) and it'll take care of the carbon issue.
@@LMacNeill more frequent oil changes as well. I wouldn't go over 4k when driving it hard. Turbos will eventually go out at some point and they are not cheap.
Cant believe Rousch put his name on it
Yeah I have a 2021 F150 with the 3.5 V6 ecoboost and I was pleasantly surprised with the power and torque of it. But sadly there's nothing like the sound of the V8 that we all liked.
I love the sound of a V8. I owned a ‘66 F100 with a 352 and a cherry bomb for over ten years. It sounded amazing and it was so manly and dumb and inefficient it only got 6 mpg. Now I own an EV. I thought I’d miss the sound but the complete lack of sound is just as cool only in different ways. I find myself focusing on the drive and my surroundings now instead of just the sounds my vehicle is making. I actually enjoy driving more now. It’s an incredible feeling when you accelerate with no sound or vibration. Like magic. And so much more efficient with fewer things to worry about. No oil changes. No smog checks. No trips to the gas station. As much as I love the sound of a V8 now that I’ve experienced electric I’d never go back.
Not to mention that those EcoBoost engines won't outlast the Coyote V8 or any NA V8 at all.
@@craigcampbell1843 Problem with EVs is that one they don't have enough range to go on a trip, two they take 4 hours just to charge the stupid things, and three they lack soul and character as well unlike has powered V8 cars mate and I think you made a huge mistake by getting rid of you're old Ford for a stupid EV that'll cost you more in repairs in the long run, don't believe then go watch Scotty Kilmer and he'll tell you the real truth about EVs.
@@CJColvin hahahahaha. Scotty Kilmer. 😂 the only thing he’s an expert on is hearing the sound of his own voice. You must not have read the 6 mpg part of my comment. I’ve taken both vehicles on long road trips (yes you can take an EV on road trips). When I was on the road in that truck I had to stop at every single gas station because I didn’t know if I’d make it to the next one, and one of the reasons I switched to an EV was because gas cars require constant maintenance from day one. Even if it never breaks down and never leaves town you will always have to make special trips to gas stations every week and get smog checks and oil changes at the minimum. You could even have your cats stolen. I don’t have to deal with any of that nonsense anymore. I no longer have those expenses or inconveniences. I never have to wait around to drive my car. It’s just always ready to go. Literally the only thing your car does better is make sound. Now I can wake up every day with a full tank if I want. It charges while I sleep with no weekly trips to the gas station to refuel. It’s way cheaper and way more convenient. It has 300 miles range. Any more than that and you’re just paying for something you’ll never use. When I go on a road trip I leave the house fully charged and I can drive for over 4 hours without stopping which is farther than I ever actually wind up making it. Someone always inevitably wants to stop for a snack or there’s something we want to get out and see or someone needs a bathroom before I ever actually drive 4 hours or 300 miles. When you’re on the road you use DC fast chargers which can charge the vehicle from 10-80% in 20-30 minutes. Not 4 hours. Lol. In other words about the time it takes for everyone to stretch and get snacks and use the bathroom. Most people never go on road trips but I do and I’ve found that it adds little to no time to my trips. As great as a V8 sounds the cons far outweigh the pros. You and Scotty will never talk me into going back but if you want to keep putting up with oil changes and smog checks and dirty smelly expensive gas stations just so you can hear your car and feel it vibrate be my guest. Someone has to contribute to gas taxes and greedy oil company’s profit margins.
@@craigcampbell1843 You sound like a complete liberal that love Biden's agenda mate.
These 2.3 can make 400 wheel hp really easy and are pretty reliable. I’ve seen people with over 400 hp and 200k miles still going strong.
Unfortunately I’ve seen the contrary. Have customers who have been through 2-3 Ford long blocks.
Simple bolt ons and my Ecoboom blew up in January at 33k miles. I made a HUGE mistake buying one
getting my third engine for the same car less than 150 k miles. Always serviced, never ran hot, rarely driven hard
They actually blow up all the time
I have a ‘17 V6 with Roush intake and catback and I absolutely love it! The gen1 s550 looks the best IMO! Huge bang for your buck with these cars! Mine is a manual and if I knew how troublesome the mt82 was going to be I may have chose the auto. After putting well over $500 into some aftermarket bolt-ons for the transmission I am finally happy with it.
Upgrade the shifter bracket (Barton two-post) and change the tranny fluid (BG Syncro Shift) and the mt82 will be just fine !
@@matewansid I went with the Blowfish bracket, Steeda short throw, Steeda SS clutch line, Whiteline trans mount, remote Wilwood reservoir and RP fluid. I want to try BG I have read nothing but great things but for now the RP is definitely an improvement.
Ford's and mustangs in particular are ugly but to everybody has their own opinion
@@Ryan-re7oj Thanks for the info.There's someone who's having probs with his trans,and I think this is what he needs.I'll copy that to him.TY again.
@@datmixednut1254 Mustangs have been touch and go with me over the years. The s550 platform really grabbed me and now they have lost me again with the s650 🤮.
My son has one with the 6-speed manual. Not only is it quick and fast with the near-perfect weight balance it is awesome in the twisties.
WIZARD! Your first video on the ecoboost mustang actually sold me on buying mine. I love it. I usually get about 700km out of a gas tank driving mostly highway. I've got 87000km on it, and so far it's been pretty good. I can confirm your thoughts. Mine does absolutely blow the doors off those old Cameros. Some of the new ones too!!
I knew right away from the brakes that this wasn't a 5.0 haha
FORD engineers still support the idea of V8 powered Mustangs. The 2024 500 HP Dark Horse as an example. Also the GT Mustangs.
I have a 2021 Mustang EcoBoost HPP that I have personally tracked and beat the socks off the Mustang GTs on track. My HPP is bone stock, and the GTs were modified. I love a good V8, but what I love more is a car that is a sleeper.
I own a 03 cobra and these are cool “not a roush fan” it just never seems right to see a stang rip by without 8 cyls roaring
My 2002 Camaro SS stock will eat its lunch and dinner every day 😊
Car Wizard, I appreciate your knowledge, wisdom and honesty. I'd like to find a mechanic like you and your staff around where I'm at in Texas. On this episode, I'm just not sold on the 4 cylinder Mustang. Yes I'm old school, I like the sound of a V8. But it's more than that. I'm wondering about long term longevity especially if it's driven hard. That's a lot of strain on a 4 cylinder. Further everyone mentions fuel economy, but I've found on a V8 truck vs a V6 truck I owned, not a significant difference when a load was applied, like towing a trailer. A V8 just doesn't have to work as hard. It seems the dropping of V8s and going to 4, 6 cylinder vehicles and EVs, is based what the government wants, not the consumer.
Love to see the Ecoboost mustangs and other Ecoboost powered vehicles, have so much to give stock and even more when tuned and get decent gas mileage compared to larger engines, with working room and everything. Only real downside is the direct injection can clog up the intake with carbon but that's entirely fixable with just some cleaning with a sandblaster or similar
i had a camaro 2.0t for a few years and i loved the 4banger. I am sure the owner of the ecoboost mustang also loves it. They are plenty fast, fun, comfortable and decent on gas.
Years ago a 4 popper was aimed at saving gas. Today a turbo inline 4 is very much a performance oriented first, over gas consumption a distant 3 or 4th behind handling and longterm reliability. Ultimately It just so happens to be better on gas because of its displacement over 6s & 8s, less thirsty. I found today’s content more of an infomercial than your regular weekly fare. Now go find yourself a 5.0 Mustang in manual and tell me you don’t have an ear orgasm What 4s just can’t do, old boy!
Just got my dream car, a 2017 V6 Mustang in Lightning blue a few months ago, love it! 😃
Also, the all-new, 2024 Mazda CX-90 high-output MHEV crossover now has the 3.3 L turbocharged six-cylinder engine with 340 horsepower and the all-new, eight-speed automatic transmission. It is replacing the CX-9 for good. But, I can still plan to purchase a used, 2021 Mazda CX-5 with the 2.5 L Skyactiv turbocharged four-cylinder engine with 250 horsepower and the six-speed automatic transmission, instead of the 2019 model with the 2.5 L Skyactiv four-cylinder engine with 187 horsepower. All Mazda CX-5's with these engines are excellent, because the 2 L engine displacement is just underpowered, which was in the early model years. All in all, the Car Wizard will have a nice video to upload for his UA-cam channel tomorrow morning. Thank you very much.
That’s one cool looking car I love it 😍 the colour is amazing too 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
What the wizard doesn't tell you is that those 4 cylinders with all that boast won't last as long as that 1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28. Those are throw away cars. Once they hit 150,000 miles, both turbos will be shot(leaking or seized up) and that engine will be so tired. Forced induction is a just a fast way to destroy an engine. What about that DUDE!
My problem is I’m sure this costed more then a premium 5.0 mustang with this having a roush package or about the same so why not get the 5.0 you don’t buy a mustang for an economy car
Exactly mate
I always been told there no replacement for displacement, but I was told growing up around cars and race cars that turbos off set the displacement for every pound of boost it off sets it by 7, so a 231ci size motor under 10 pounds of boost would be like a 301ci with his turbo chart, im sure its outdated since the chart came out in the 80's or early 90's
Hahahahaha The tiny brakes on that thing....Clearly not made for stopping..."You keep on going on your merry way, Sir"....
Mazda makes some of the fastest 4 cylinders out there. They're the design behind the Ecoboost engines. My 2011 Escape with a 2.5L Duratec blows the doors off of most cars. A mid 2000's Mustang GT had a really hard time keeping up with me. A lot of people are amazed that a little SUV has that much power, especially without a turbo! I can only imagine how faster it would be if it had a 2.3L Ecoboost swap with a good tune. You could easily fit one into a 2nd gen Escape. It's a little tighter space on the 3rd gen ones.
Well, my 300c diesel with 300bhp, smoked one of these of the lights. It kept it's place, in my rear view mirror!
I agree. I have a 2013 GT and the only reason why you need a v8 is for the noise it makes. There is nothing like a v8 rumble, but from a performance standpoint, the v8 is not really needed. Now, if someone were to offer me a free one, I’d still pick the v8 version. But not because it’s fast, just cuz it’s my preference.
The 4 cyl turbo is faster than many cars from the 60-70 and 80’s.
Like those gauges compared to the standard Mustang gauges. Font is nicer. Also forgot that 2015 was the last year for My Ford Touch (MFT) system. The 2016+ received the Sync 3 system, which is light years ahead of the MFT. You can upgrade the unit with kits from the interwebs, but considering you could get a 2016+ for the same price, it's not worth modding the 2015 to a 2016 spec unless you already have the 2015.
The rs1 graphics are a dead giveaway it's not a v8
I would be concerned over the long haul as far as that engine holding up. So much forced induction power into such a small engine. I'll stick to my tuned na V8 GT with it's 500 hp.
Amen Brother
As long as they make v8s im going to keep driving them , give me a v8 or I'm going electric wouldnt mind a tesla model 3 performance, if I want a 4 or 6 cylinder I'll stick to Asian brands
@@christianmonreal9303 Yeah, I'm with you on the Asian Brands for a smaller engine. They build them better. Honda, Toyota, Subaru, and Mazda have that down. As for your EV idea, that's a big NOPE for me. Never happening, no matter what kind of performance it has to offer. It makes no noise, so it has no soul. Nope! 😁
I currently drive a Saab 9-5 Aero from 2001 with 2,3T 250hp. It's done 200.000miles (320.000km) and still runs so well. And that's over 20 years ago. This will probably work longer than that
@ Congrats! Maybe this will do better, but I doubt it. The internal parts of the Saab engine were probably built better because they didn't cheap out like Ford is known to do. I see too many small turbo engines in my friend's shop. Unless they are quality engines like Toyota or Honda, forced induction small engines just don't generally hold up well over time.
My neighbors daughter just purchased one of those 2 days ago. And was surprised by how quick it is. Besides that 2.3 fits perfectly on my 2000 Ranger 😊.
The question is will it outlast the NA V6 or NA V8?
Direct swap? No. But the lima 2.3 did come turbo charged in the 80s in the turbo coupe mustang/thunderbirds. Tho would be sick to ecoboost 2.3 swap a 2000s ranger lol.
Oooo that would be such a sweet ass swap. If you do this please make a UA-cam series 🤣
Would genuinely binge the shit out of that
Those Mustangs are gorgeous. Wish we could get right hand drive Roush and Shelbys in the UK.
I drove a Camaro with a turbo 4 cylinder and I was shocked at how much power it had!
I drive a 2008 HHR SS Turbo 4-cylinder backed by no-lift-shift 5-speed. The power of that little 4-banger is absolutely shocking, and top speed is rev-limited to 155 MPH. Who needs more than that on the street, or on the highway even??? My "other" car is a 2003 PT Cruiser GT Turbo with "AutoStick" trans. Full automatic when you want it, and slap-stick upshifts and downshifts when you want to to play a little. With factory tires it takes the corners like a slot car and is tons of fun. It will hold its own against a GT500 and top end is rev-limited to 132 MPH. Again, who needs more than that in a fun street car??? Also, no sticker shock when it comes to buying insurance for either car.... 😎
Did we forget about the SVO Mustang? Way ahead of it's time.
I know someone who tuned one of them and took it to the track . (Cracked the block) 8k later new motor
LMAO I was then immediately shown a Mach E ad just after he says we're "about to be severely disappointed" at 2:52
Not sure I agree on four cylinders being the way forward. It’s not all about power. If I want to go fast electric is the way to go. Can’t beat the responsiveness of an electric drivetrain. If i want a great sound and decent power the V8 still works. The four cylinders are just a little meh, regardless of the power.
I have it in my 2 door base Bronco with 10 speed automatic and out blows my mind that its strong and quick.
Im sorry wizzy but my 2017 GT straightpipe with Borla exhaust has a soul. Everytime i start it up my heart smiles.
Hey Wizard & Mrs Wizard, this Mustang is really sweet!! It's sad to me that the big V8 is going away, but that's progress, we have to be open to new things!!! 👍👍🙂
The only problem is that those small turbo engines won't outlast the big legendary V8s.
@@CJColvin very true!!!
These 2.3s make more power than the venerable v8s of old, and get great fuel economy. I've seen some big turbo 2.3 mustangs pushing north of 500hp without touching the internals. Boost noises are a lot of fun, but it is impossible to replace the sound of well tuned v8. Not sure how much lighter it actually is with the turbo and intercooler ect, but might make a fun track/handling car if the nose is noticeably lighter vs the v8 cars
The question is will the 2.3L EcoBoost 4 cylinder outlast the good ol' V8s?
@@CJColvin no it won’t, you don’t buy Ecoboost engines for reliability. I find it preposterous how the government thinks the turbo 4’s are better for the planet then the V8’s when I’ve seen those turbo 4’S break down earlier, and the whole point about Eco friendly is how long things last too without disposing of them. A turbo 4 isn’t any better for the planet if it breaks down earlier. Where a V8 is very reliable and can take strain for hundreds and thousands of miles. The government is literally putting the cart before the horse. Truth has to be said.
@@Blakecryderman7244 Exactly mate
@@Blakecryderman7244 Agreed. "Frequent replacement of small displacement" just doesn't have the same ring to it as "no replacement for displacement". These boosted 4 bangers are already giving up the ghost, many with well under 150k on the clock. Me? I'll just hold on to my 496 big block yukon, thank you. I hear that these the turbo 4s get better fuel economy but I'm thinking that might be because the people that own them are on foot because their 5 year old car needs an engine 🤣🤣🤣
@@catfishbilly7425 yeah i would hold on to that 496 big block yukon of yours, definitely agree with your evaluation
He says that the V-8s are going away. What he meant to say is that gasoline engines are going away, if not eventually outlawed, in favor of EVs. That is why I'm buying critical spare parts for my LS-powered GMC pickup, even though it's low mileage and in great shape.
This is so interesting! I didn't even know what Roush was!
I have a 2018 Mustang GT Premium with some decent upgrades. Love it.
the mustang back in the 80s also had a 2.3 turbo. the same as the turbo coupe thunderbird. they actually detuned the thunderbird engine because it was faster than the mustang.
Haha also like looking at Mustangs in my rear view mirror 😂😂
First I thought as a RS1 badge… cosmetic and an air intake. Still a lovely car. My 2018 eco is plenty good for me, and I love the 25-35 highway mileage.
I’d still rather have an NA engine over any turbo, and it’s awfully hard to make a 4 cylinder sound like a sweet lopey-cammed V8, and if aint going to sound good might as well just go electric at that point.
Exactly mate V8 or nothing
Some of the classics had a 4cyl so we can’t be THAT disappointed
I'm not a Ford guy but over 300 HP in a 4??!!!! That's awesome
The Mercedes A45s with its 2.0 4cyl is 425 BHP straight out of the showroom.
@@dj_paultuk7052 I am a Mercedes guy
"Here it splits to two though not needed on a four cylinder"
You would get a kick out of something rare a few chevettes had. Four into two exhaust manifolds from factory. I have one myself for mine along with a high compression cylinder head.
I can do the Ton in a chevette :-)
What the Wizard doesn't understand is that people DO want V8 cars but the government is making it too expensive (regulations) for car companys to make what their customers actually want. While these 4 cyl can make a lot of power, they tend to blow up as they get 50K miles on them. These engines are throw away motors. The Wizard noted these problems on Fords dual turbo 6 cylinder motors.
The stage 1 Roush for people who can't afford a real Roush and want a decal and some fancy 20's with less power than a NA 5.0 of the stage 2 haha
I LOVE A V8 ENGINE, IT'S A VERY SAD DAY THAT THE V8 IS GONE 😢
As David Carradine said in the movie Cannonball " Thats some kiddy car "🤣
Yep... only a 2.3L ecoboost. RS-0 (Base V6 model): RS-1 (Premium 2.3L ecoboost): RS-2 (Premium GT 5.0L): RS-3 (Roush Supercharged Premium GT 5.0L)
I've had 3 S550 models. A 2016 Ecoboost that I added the full Cobb treatment, a 2017 GT Convertiblew /FP power Pack 2, and currently a 2019 GT California Special with FP Power Pack 2... all Autos (wife can't drive a stick!). The Ecoboost was quick, but even with adding all the Cobb parts, it would just hold it's own with a stock GT. The 10R80... makes the difference. A stock 2018+ Ecoboost with the 10R80 will hold its own with any GT older than 2018.
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I still prefer the V8 rumble, call me old fashioned, but it sounds way better. And sales prove I’m not the only one. No one doubts the power to weight ratio, it’s a amazing little motor for a Focus, what a sleeper that would be.
Well, SAAB made some seriously quick cars with a 2.3 litre I4 engine. Ex-factory they topped out at 250-260 bhp but they easily tune to 350+. A friend has a SAAB 9-5 in stage 1 tune actually. Nice car, as is this Mustang.
Agreed, i have two different 4 cyl turbocharged SAABs that are wicked fun. never felt the need for a V8