POST OFFICE SCANDAL: Lord Advocate grilled admits 4 subpostmasters convicted after Horizon warnings

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  • The Post Office has been stripped of its status as a specialist reporting agency to Scotland's prosecutors due to the Horizon scandal, MSPs have been told.
    Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain KC, who leads the Crown Office, said the Post Office would instead have to report allegations of crimes to the police.Appearing at the Scottish Parliament on Thursday, Ms Bain also sought to defend the Crown from suggestions it should have been more suspicious of the flawed evidence from the Horizon system.
    She has previously told MSPs that 54 people are thought to have been affected by the scandal north of the border.Earlier this week, the Scottish Government brought forward emergency legislation to clear the name of Scottish subpostmasters who were wrongly convicted.
    As well as being the head of the Crown Office, the Lord Advocate is also the Scottish Government's principal legal adviser.
    Ms Bain provided a further update to MSPs on progress on the Horizon cases on Thursday, after opposition parties had called for her to give another statement to Parliament.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 85

  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey7424 17 днів тому +16

    many postemaster were unlawfully pressurized into pleading guilty so as not to go to jail.

    • @classicraceruk1337
      @classicraceruk1337 15 днів тому +1

      True, pressurised by false evidence. This being the Horizon system was infallible.

    • @ronniemac2636
      @ronniemac2636 5 днів тому

      Bain decided that some people were guilty and refused to help them.
      She needs to resign.
      Of course she won't given her affiliations with the corruption SNP

  • @edwardcampbell7513
    @edwardcampbell7513 17 днів тому +48

    She should not be part of any government.!!!
    She should be independent of and seen to be independent.
    It is an absolute disgrace.!!!!

  • @jamesburns6000
    @jamesburns6000 17 днів тому +32

    Thirty minutes set aside to discuss this national disgrace with people's lives ruined is nauseating. How can anyone trust this Lord Advocate?

    • @lindamillar2505
      @lindamillar2505 17 днів тому +1

      You can't trust her they are all corrupt in Holyrood

  • @alexanderv7702
    @alexanderv7702 16 днів тому +6

    Presiding Officers are a waste of space!
    We want to know ALL the facts.

  • @ronniemac2636
    @ronniemac2636 17 днів тому +22

    Another load of tosh and chronic deflections.🎉😢

  • @edwardhowie6102
    @edwardhowie6102 17 днів тому +31

    Yes I agree she should be completely Independent of the ruling government

  • @stevesmall3750
    @stevesmall3750 17 днів тому +28

    She does not inspire confidence 😞

  • @user-no9vu3np3w
    @user-no9vu3np3w 17 днів тому +16

    OMG - talk about gross incompetence and a massive failure in the judicial system

  • @stephenmurphy1111
    @stephenmurphy1111 17 днів тому +20

    Not very convincing or assertive as Scotlands no 1 law czar. How could you expect her to prosecute the SNP? Totally farcical

  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey7424 17 днів тому +7

    Being a very senior solicitor her evidence was very shaky and she looked drawn and worried for someone in her position as lord advocate , she knows that she and the crown office is exposed to public scrutiny and that she may yet be held to account, criminally or civilly. Even when receiving professional police evidence if a prosecutor is not fully happy with the evidence supplied or sees any any weakness in the case then they commonly question the reporting police officer to explain elements of that evidence until they are fully happy to continue with any prosecution. she should have done so with the post offices evidence instead of just accepting there evidence on face value. she is now trying to divert her failings and incompetence by alleging that others are responsible for hoodwinking her this is what happens with political appointments, retired scottish police officer

  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey7424 17 днів тому +11

    Fully independent and yet she is sitting in the SNP benches surrounded by her fellow snp members. she has disgraced the office of lord advocate she is not accountable to the scottish parliament only the SNP

  • @user-bc8ey4rz2g
    @user-bc8ey4rz2g 13 днів тому +1

    How embarrassing, she comes across as weak, nervous and completely incompetent.

  • @blackislepeas
    @blackislepeas 17 днів тому +8

    How many words are required to say aye or nay ?

  • @jamesburns6000
    @jamesburns6000 17 днів тому +6

    So Mr Brown just read word for word from a piece of prepared paper seconds from her speech, it all looks so rotten and a set-up.

  • @sheilayoung374
    @sheilayoung374 15 днів тому +2

    30 MINUTES ALLOCATED!!! absolutely shocking.
    And it includes her waffling on 😡

  • @Diana-007
    @Diana-007 17 днів тому +4

    Oh dear there is no hope, role on 2026!

  • @brunopetit9538
    @brunopetit9538 17 днів тому +9

    Does not inspire confidence does she? Is this woman really the best we have to do this role? If she is no wonder we are doomed. What an absolute joke! I had to switch it off after about 30 secs of her starting it was soooooo bad!

  • @dingleydell3250
    @dingleydell3250 17 днів тому +9

    Very well prepared and assertive as the Lord Advocate - NOT!!

  • @taffyddu
    @taffyddu 15 днів тому +2

    The gamekeeper must not be a poacher and the security guard must not be a convicted criminal. Unless it’s the SNP.

  • @callumturkington5856
    @callumturkington5856 14 днів тому

    All in the same trough. They lack empathy and any form of understanding. They are overpaid judge and jury and should have this removed from their hands.

  • @michaeltownsend1719
    @michaeltownsend1719 15 днів тому +1

    she is so out of touch

  • @leekitchen1195
    @leekitchen1195 6 днів тому

    Innocent people jailed to cover up an organisations reputation: disgrace

  • @Liverpoolboy01
    @Liverpoolboy01 5 днів тому

    Basically the Post office said jump, and the law officers said how high!

  • @AntPDC
    @AntPDC 12 днів тому

    She is serially incompetent: countless costly appeals lying in the dust, her bad advice to the SNP "government" leading to catastrophic, politically-motivated lawsuits. Her perpetually sad face, robotic delivery, hapless demeanour, say it all.

  • @bejewelledbirthdayparties698
    @bejewelledbirthdayparties698 17 днів тому +6

    Am I watching a play, it's so well rehearsed. Sadly another example of people in power taking the jolly ..

  • @johnmorris8417
    @johnmorris8417 17 днів тому +10

    I’d call it a circus but a circus normally only have one clown

  • @KevinParsons-of6if
    @KevinParsons-of6if 13 днів тому

    Why after all this time hasn't Vennels received a prison sentence....it's so wrong...they shiuld not get away with this scandal.

  • @mikemphillips7085
    @mikemphillips7085 15 днів тому +1

    What a waste of space!!😢 surprised they gave 30 minutes to the subject!!

  • @dadangus100
    @dadangus100 14 днів тому

    Why does she read her answers..clearly preprepared to be used what ever the question..she is a incapable of thinking on her feet

  • @KeaneVincent-ws6kk
    @KeaneVincent-ws6kk 15 днів тому

    Crown office over the many years took the word of the PO officials. Shame Crown office was so trusting and even lazy as no real scrutiny was made, Hope practices have changed for the better. Feel very, very, sorry for the all those wrongly convicted, and or abused in anyway. Disgraceful!!

  • @jimmcgrath5103
    @jimmcgrath5103 17 днів тому +13

    what I want to know is was she dragged through a hedge backwards?

    • @stevesmall3750
      @stevesmall3750 17 днів тому +4

      🤣

    • @alanthorburn5073
      @alanthorburn5073 17 днів тому +6

      Well some folk find 1/4 of a million pounds a year not enough to deal with.

    • @lindamillar2505
      @lindamillar2505 17 днів тому +4

      Looks like it She obviously can afford a decent hairdresser but can't be arsed.

  • @classicraceruk1337
    @classicraceruk1337 15 днів тому

    Even the PO said things SHOULD have been done differently. Lord Arbuthnot said this in his evidence in 2015 before the GE.

  • @FissionChips
    @FissionChips 17 днів тому +12

    Looks and sounds like workers playtime . . . .

  • @JudgeBluey
    @JudgeBluey 5 днів тому

    There will NEVER be any forgiveness of these tyrannical Post Office personnel, Fujitsu, and ALL MPs who knew of the problem.
    They should all pay the ultimate price for their ineptness..!!

  • @trailmaker3
    @trailmaker3 17 днів тому +3

    What a sham! This isn’t enough time to get any legitimate answers to serious questions and the true scope if the question is essentially cut off. What a farce!

  • @jimmymcdonald426
    @jimmymcdonald426 17 днів тому +6

    What a sham embarrassing

  • @MrGsmiths
    @MrGsmiths 14 днів тому

    totally out of her depth her answers are terrible, confidence in her is nil, she is a typical snp mp not fit for any duty let alone the lord advocate she is a sham watch her eyes she blinks continuously a sure sign of incompetence

  • @Liverpoolboy01
    @Liverpoolboy01 5 днів тому

    She sounds like a bloody robot!

  • @joanrodger352
    @joanrodger352 13 днів тому

    She does a Sturgeon and answers nothing directly.Yet again no answers.

    • @neils4886
      @neils4886 13 днів тому +2

      She’s reading out answers to FAQ’s typed out by a medium grade, pen pushing civil servant.

  • @alexanderv7702
    @alexanderv7702 16 днів тому +1

    "From my understanding ... ."

  • @classicraceruk1337
    @classicraceruk1337 15 днів тому

    Problems with Horizon were known from 1999

  • @judithmatthews8460
    @judithmatthews8460 12 днів тому

    This woman is about as effective for justice as a vegan would be advocating for a butchers shop.

  • @roxylass1
    @roxylass1 12 днів тому

    A very good trained liar

  • @neils4886
    @neils4886 13 днів тому +1

    It says here……..😂😂😂

  • @user-id2mp1hq5y
    @user-id2mp1hq5y 13 днів тому

    Example of snp no answer

  • @michaelgallacher378
    @michaelgallacher378 15 днів тому +4

    Bain must resign.

  • @daffytree2605
    @daffytree2605 16 днів тому +3

    Anyone spot Nicola Sturgeons best friend talking,draw your own conclusions,this women should be independent NOT in the snp front bench.

  • @vtechead1
    @vtechead1 16 днів тому +3

    If ever there was a more blatant conflict of interest going on, I’ve yet to see it.

  • @francesmcphillips6831
    @francesmcphillips6831 15 днів тому +2

    Time the Law Society stepped in. The need to investigate her independence she does not have.

  • @davidrendall5112
    @davidrendall5112 16 днів тому +2

    You should not be in a position as lord advocate as well as being part of an SNP government btw your voice is condescending hen 😡

    • @thesmallerhalf1968
      @thesmallerhalf1968 16 днів тому +1

      ‘Hen’ is also condescending. How is a voice condescending? The tone might be, but this is just in your mind.