James O'Brien meets Zeinab Badawi | LBC
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Zeinab Badawi is an award-winning broadcaster, journalist and the President of SOAS University of London. Born in Sudan, she has worked in the British media for several decades. She has recently published her first book which promises to reshape our understanding of Africa. Zeinab tells James what led her to write her instant Sunday Times bestseller, An African History of Africa.
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I am from South Africa and growing up during apartheid I was aware of the fact that we were taught as little as possible about African history. The BBC series on the history of Africa, hosted by Zeinab, was one of the best history series I have seen, presented by an extraordinary woman.
Check out the documentary Africa by Basil Davidson & the book titled When We Ruled by Robin Walker. Phenomenal human history.
It's much more than that. There were Africans before Europeans or any other people existed. All other people were people who left Africa about 100,000 years ago and then over a period of about 30,000 years through climactic and environnental adaptation became Europeans, Asians and so forth
@@theblackstarnews9448 Fun fact: up until about 9000 years ago there was only dark skin. So all the folks who discovered fire and made stone tools were dark. I am a US citizen and I just learned this in the last 10 years. My teacher in grad school told that he could not find any pictures where the 'cave men' are Black. I was so surprised. Check out the Cheddar Man.
Read the book, "From Babylon to Timbuktu.." It's an incredibly informative read.
🟥🟩⬛️✨️✨️✨️💖 KING SOLOMON. ___The Song of Solomon, the wise man. The words of Solomon, the son of David, to his friends: "I am black, but comely [graceful] oh ye daughters of Jerusalem. Look not upon me because I am black as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. " Here Solomon describes his color to be as beautiful as the tents of Kedar, whose tents were made of black goat's hair... ✨️✨️💖✨️✨️
Repatriate the artefacts not only from Western Museums but from Western Families who also have obtained African artefacts by nefarious means.
Yup, it’s pure disrespect to human & African history
Her series on ancient African civilisation kept me mesmerised while at the same time furious, furious by the fact that the lie of Africans not having any form of ancient civilisation, which is unfortunately perpetuated in African schools, including the one I went to, was being told confidently and is still being told. I am thrilled to see the narrative changing through people like her and many others before her on a factual basis, not mere fables. Well done! Also, well done, James, for being bold enough to acknowledge that you had to unlearn quite a few falsehoods you have learned in the past, which is the mark of integrity!
Which school did you attend to say that
@@GogoDiop1Dom Helder Camara - Pointe-Noire. I hope that provides you with much-needed info ❤
@@PatriciaAQ mbote ma soeur. Nous on nous a appris au Sénégal l'histoire de l'Afrique. L'empire du Ghana Mali Songhai Kush Aksum et Kemet. Cst pq je demandais ou est ce que tu as appris pour dire que on nous apprend pas l'histoire de l'Afrique.
@@GogoDiop1mboté mon frère😊, vous avez été très chanceux, malheureusement ce n’a pas été le cas pour nous
@@PatriciaAQ je comprends on a eu beaucoup de chance. Moi j'ai eu a lire Teophile Obenga, mais cst dommage qu'on a pas eu beaucoup d'ouvrages sur l'Afrique centrale et l'Afrique Australe.
James O’Brien thanks for inviting the honorable journalist Zaineb Badawi into your show,I respect you both.
Absolutely fantastic
He needs to get Robin Walker for a 2+ hour discussion on Africa.
James O’Brien has a very big heart , kind man and what a beautiful brilliant interview , thank you
As a Sudanese British American lol, a someone with hyphenated cultures, I love Zeinab’s book, and how important Africa’s history is to the world. Some of the scholars she mentioned, I used for my thesis during my master’s degree’s studies in the US and now my doctoral studies, too.
The world is really ‘missing out’ on our history and the great civilizations we had in Africa that predates colonialism in the continent.
can we re-establish these marvellous civilizations.
Stop amassing certs and go help your people.
How can you be all of that? You're sudanese with a British or American passport?
You are either Sudanese Brit or Sudanese American.
A Sudanese British American?! Are u fcking kidding me?! 🤣 Now i know how crazy it sounds to say “African American” LOL.
Thank you for this! As an African American, I believe we must be a global people and understanding our history pre-colonialism is the way
I went to the so called Africa Day at the SOAS in central London, she is the head of the university, and it was mostly white with black liberals who didn't really get what they were really doing there, and trust me there are African female Professors who refuse to countenance the idea of re-establishing pre-colonial institutions, especially where African Women had some form of power that was central to the stability of their respective societies in many different spheres of influence.
There are plenty of books that deal with the social history of African societies across the continent, in an in-depth way.
Zainab Badawi, is a black liberal and promotes black neo liberal agenda. I went simply to hear what was going on in respect to updating my knowledge about the Africa and Africans in the present.
My friend even that what you said is a problem in the black community "african American" toy should say African and not African American because the Chinese who born in America won't say they're Chinese American.
@@Kango62 You lot left me with a legacy of powerlessness and ineptitude, all you do is talk, talk, talk.:(
@@Kango62 we do have a Chinese American community , who call themselves Chinese Americans lol. I am an American but a decedent of Africa, which makes me a African American
@@Kango62 The European is not even from America and call them self Americans without tell the European name.
Zenaib Bedawi is a complete role model for many of us Africans. As a Ghanaian-British I am so proud of her
Zainab’s BBC history of Africa series was absolute amazing! It’s here on YT for anyone interested
Yes, everyone should Netflix and chill this series...
Such a lovely moment when O'Brien tells her not to take the negative review to heart. He's really such a kind hearted person.
We are told that very same thing in America, except that it is a bit more inhumane. We are told to get over it.
Any time I hear “get over it” I wonder about all the African who were killed and being killed all over the world knowing they can’t get over death. Therefore people of African descent worldwide will never just “get over it”.
I have been a massive fan of Zeinab since I first saw her doing interviews in the early 1990's on Channel 4. Human life started in Africa 150,000 [roughly] years ago. The Europeans dominated Africa for the last 500 years. This is a blink of an eye in terms of African history.
Great conversation. I am a Jamaican and I truly appreciate the fact that Africa is more than slaves .Africa was a real rich colony but was never challenged,because Britain and all are forced to see themselves as the real cannibals of our oppressed countries
Africa is a continent consisting of many languages, religions, etc., not a colony. Her series on Africa is very educational and free on YT.
Thanks Mr O’Brian for inviting this Arab African treasure.
Was very happy that she touched on Western narratives on “ our” women are not educated and also that Africa has no history !!!!
Thank you Zaineb ! Felt vey proud of you. Greetings to you and James from a Yemeni 🇾🇪 brother
As an African Caribbean/ 😅 British citizen, I am very proud of this author, for this reason; we were formerly known as an oral people. That was because many could not interpret our art work. Well done my daughter.
Well done Zaineb and James from 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Lady meets my expectations by reeling off a long list of African scientists and explorers.
Wonderful to hear someone as intelligent and respectful as Zeinab Badawi representing the voice of Sudanese 🇸🇩 who like the Palestinians, Congolese etc, also deserve to know the world is aware of their suffering and that by exposing more their circumstances, something could be done urgently with the support of people marching in the name of those who are hand tide or voiceless.
We must have peace in this world, permanent peace.
This is such a wonderful interview, I must buy this book not just for myself but for the benefit of my grand daughter.
What an amazing interview James! Thank you so much for brining Zainab Badawi, my children and I are eager to read your book.
This is the book ive been waiting for....thank you Zeinab Bdawi ❤
When an hour flies by quickly without noticing, you know that's a great interview.
Brilliant interview. Being of a similar background/disposition Anglo/African I have always admired Ms. Badawi. Met her in my African neck of the woods, i.e. Gambia during our recent transnational period after dictatorship. The way is paved and she is one who has taken a huge step in the way. Inspirational in many ways since C4 news when we had only seen Moira Stewart. More to come from her I'm sure. All positive. Thanks you Ms. Badawi its all noticed and very appreciated from the African community in the UK.
I come from Eritrea at the age of 16 in late 80 's. & to see zeineb on TV was fascinating. I watch her African travel, after a very very long time, (as I don't watch TV anymore!) I even think I knew her more & I loved her down to earth approach. I can't wait to read her book. BTW she still looks fantastic after all this years
A million THANKS Zeinab Badawi for your immense contribution through this brilliant project and thank you tremendously James O’Brian for your generous accessibility to this incredible information on your platform! Bravo to both of You!
Fascinating conversation, I think the book should be introduced in Africa schools because we don't know much about our history, just heard some things from her for the first time .
Whatever it takes.👍🏾
Wow! What a wonderful way to spend a hour (he says 45 minutes into the interview). Lightbulb moment: there is a her-story, beyond & equal to history.
The pandemic introduced me to this accomplished woman.The Africa series enthralled and educated me.
Me, too 😀
When Zainab speaks you better listen to what she has to say. Much respect ❤
It's incredible since Africa is the cradle of civilization that Europeans have written thousands of books stating it's the "Dark Continent." People worldwide have been propagandized, miseducated and lied to about the history and greatness of Africa and Africans.
The foregone conclusion is that it was Africans who laid the foundation for the civilization of the world. The first Greek philosopher, Thales, when to Africa for his education. He and other Greek philosophers encouraged their students to go to Africa for education. Those are facts that cannot be refuted by anyone worthy of the name.
George Orwell wrote that the best way to destroy a people is to deny or destroy their understanding of their own history. Europeans knew what they were doing to Africans.
Thales went to Egypt and there is evidence he may have gone to Babylonia to study mathematics.
To my knowledge he never visited Sub-Saharan Africa. Do you have any links ?
@@davidlamb7524 What is "sub Sahara" Africa?????
@@Humanity2102 I am of course referring to Africa below the Sahara desert which is what early European writers were referring to as " The Dark Continent"
It was rather describing their lack of knowledge of the bulk of the African continent. The 'darkness' was theirs. Not the Africans per se. It was symbolic of the unknown. It was later reinterpreted in a more derogatory sense as a land of ignorance. Current claims made for an enlightened Africa tend to mostly refer to North African states such as Egypt, Phoenicia and Babylon. Of course there were many African civilizations as Zeinab has demonstrated in her TV series. I have yet to read her book but it's on my list. I would wait for the spoken version if it is her reading it.
Africa had history so rich and so phenomenal that they don’t want to talk about it.
Yet, the West cherish and covent African Artifact, as their own possessions of worth to exploit and generate wealth displaying in their museums. 🤔🙄
Thank you for the insightful interview. I have always wondered what happened to the enormous chapter that is the history of Africa. I hate how much our colonial heritage has limited our view on fascinating histories and cultures.
Thank you James. What a wonderful discussion
Thank you James for this intelligent interview!
I’ll definitely read your book. Thanks James for who you are. Hand to hand for a better world.
The fabulous Zeinsb Badawi - used to watch her on C4 news years ago but wasn’t aware of her full story - such a polymath !
This book is a must read for me. Thanks for this interview
Thank you Zeinab for your great contribution to African history. Indeed, the world should know that the foundations of Ancient Egypt is Black Africa. The lies and revisionist history must now be corrected and the truth be told ...
An advocate for Black women of the world Zeineb 👌🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽You are our future 🙌🏽🙏🙌🏽🙏🙌🏽🙏🙏🏿🙏🏿
Zainab is an inspiration.
And here's the very best thing ... Zeinab Badawi is such a wonderful example of a cultured, classy lady born in a vibrant and amazing continent, who will make all peoples sit up and take notice of a history of Africa with new interest.
I will be buying this book for my granddaughter & she's 3 years old - obviously to be read when suitably of age.
Europeans judged African civilization as well Indigenous ones by their standards and decided they were superior. They never tried to understand the culture and the people.
Why would we....not the least bit interested.
Zeinab, we Eritreans are proud of you. Thank you James for the wonderful interview!
I loved this! Thank you so much for bringing this to the forefront!
Looking forward to reading. Thank you.
In 2024 here in America, school children are taught that African history began with slavery. Not only did it “save” us from our pagan ways it also benefited us because it taught us useful skills. I know better, I have been a student of African/African-American history for decades. I do my best to educate others.
I got to learn that many of the people enslaved brought with them superior skills in diverse fields. And that is what seeded the success story of the USA, allowing it to bypass Europe. How could such highly skilled people come from no civilization? Surely. The lies peddled about Africa really hurt. Unfortunately, many people who have never interacted with Africans still believe them. We have a lot of work to undo the damage done to Africa by colonizers
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Seriously had a co-worker the other(half the room agreed with her)day who told me the reason why Jamaicans/Caribbeans and African-Americans sound the way they do is because of Irish heritage like it was hard to give the more than 85% of us who have been raised as a black ppl culturally with our own linguistic ancestry the credit for regional accents sometimes when I here ppl talk like that it makes me realize how white washed the world is history wise. Most privileged ppl won't look into it because it makes more sense not to for them just to keep there charred of global importance going
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Change is here.
I’ve got to wait for the audio version. I’m losing my eyesight but I can’t wait.
She is such a remarkable and well accomplished journalist.
Thanks for this incredible interview...
Great job Zeinab! Thank you for making us proud. You have always been my favourite news presenter. Will buy and read your book.
As a Sudanese, I'm so proud of Zeinab. She is firmly grounded in both science and ethics. But much more impressive is how she can masterfully embrace both African and European identities and maintain a beautiful balance. I hope she can inspire young people of all creeds to follow her fine example.
I'm not a scholar, but as a Sudanese who lived in the US and the UK, what she professes resonates so much with some of my own observations. I wish I get an opportunity to discuss with her someday.
Thank you both for this most educational program.
Absolutely brilliant interview James . Well done to my Sudanese sister we are proud of you ..
I have always admired her broadcast journalism and plan to read the book!
Thank you Zeinab for the amazing historical journey. I watched the series and also read the book...it has really given me a lot of historical facts I did not even think about in Africa.🙏
She’s a revolutionary to me! Thank you for hosting her.
"Africa is the repository of knowledge and yet the material knowledge, some 95% of this, is held outside of the continent." - Zeinab Badawi
This is so wonderful ❤
Zeinab is a brilliant Historian. loved her documentaries and looking to read her book.
A VERY inspiring piece 🙏🏽
She is a legend role models women 🎉❤
James, thank you for inviting Zienab. Her finding of African history is eye opening. I never taken face value of western historians about Africa.
Am here for Zeinab Badawi ❤😊
Thank you for a great podcast I learned so much. I will have get this book. Thanks James.
Thanks for posting
Another excellent British female journalist born in Africa. Reminds me of another who was recently on LBC. What happened to her?...
Where is she??
Britain
@@cbtube1677
Locke up in the deep, dank cellars of the LBC studios no doubt.
Such an informative and clear and interesting interview .i love it
Among other things, setting people straight on educated Muslim women. Reading all of the histories of Africa is enriching. Want to read her book and see the series, and widen my knowledge base as a Black American with African, Native Indigenous, and European ancestors.
Great interview. Subscribed & looking forward to more.
Zeinab's book just shot up to the top of my must-read list.
I have pre-ordered your book. A wonderful conversation. Thank you. Best wishes.
Dr. Badawi is the most brilliant voice of all. She is part of the annals of history, along with Dr. John Hendrick Clark, Dr. Amos Wilson, and even Ivan Van Sertimer.
Rock on James. T & T's Fan
Great interview. Thank you!
Proud of you from Ghana
@Nigeria, beautifully written. Exposing our history in his true form is very admiring especially by an African. Some critics graduated from the school of self hating. If you are concern about her identity for you to authenticate her book, you are lost as an African. What has been your individual contribution to Africa as a critic, nothing.
This was nice, loved the series, I met her in London and she’s absolutely brilliant. Thanks dude!
A number of the African American authors were actually from the Caribbean or wider Commonwealth . For example, George G. M. James - Guyana, JA Rogers was from Jamaica and Ivan Van Sertima who was from Guyana. I would also refer to Cheik Anta Diop and his student Theophile Obenga.
This is a great conversation. I feel that in addition to Afrians knowledge of history, African Americans need to have knowledge also.
I watched a few of your BBC documentaries and ruled you out! Nevertheless, in this interview, I seem to have fallen in LOVE with your intellect. I must read your book. Thank you Zeinab🙏🏿
This was one of the most intelligent and insightful interviews that I’ve ever had the pleasure to watch. I was riveted from beginning to end.
Prior to this interview, I’ve never had the pleasure of knowing this gentleman. However, I’m now an enormous fan. He left a huge impression on me to say the least.
The way he guided Mrs. Badawi throughout the interview with thoughtful care and due respect was a true masterclass. Job well done.
I can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to going through the vault of his previous interviews to find other gems such as this one. I know for certain that I’ll not be disappointed.
In closing, Mrs. Badawi’s BBC mini-series on Africa was nothing short of brilliant. I learned a tremendous amount from each and every episode. I’m very much looking forward to purchasing Mrs. Badawi’s much needed book.
Kudos to everyone involved for producing such quality work. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Blessings! 🙏🏾
I saw her on TV discovering 🌍 Africa
Amazing woman well done
Brilliant woman. Thanks for having her on James.
Thank you for this interview guys
Zainab is a living image of Queen Tiye, grand mother of Tutankhamun. The original north East African phenotype of the Queens and Pharaohs of Kemet and Kush. Now however, the same detractors who claim Africans are rewritting history, are simultaniously writing Africans out of History. Despite the faces on the great Sphinx and Royals who commissioned the Pyramid resembling indigenous Africans. They denied Africans had the mental capacity to construct the Pyramids. They denied Africans constructed great Zimbabwe and claimed the Ile Ife bronzes of Nigeria were apparently of Greek origin. And now anything to do with Africa and Africans is censored as Afrocentrist.
Great interview with an amazing lady. Thanks, Zeinab. I can’t wait to read your book. I’m getting copies for my nieces and nephews. Blessings!
I'm a big fan of Ambassador Zeinab Badawi....Can't wait for new history finds of African history...Queen of the Nile (nickname)
Elegant, eloquent lady ❤
Africa had a history before Europeans.
Wonderful interview. Especially noted how James encouraged Zeinab to ignore petty book reviews. Inspired to explore African history!
Bought the book for an Afrikan friend and his family in Tanzania… I’ve exported 300 plus books on Afrikan “OurStory” past and current achievers that the world has been miseducated to overlook 🙏🏽
This book is on my read / listen list!
Thank you LBC and Zeinab for this treasure of information. I will be in touch with Zeinab for further information.
Well done,brilliant ,thank you to both of you.I’m Eritrean.
The best experts on African history are those who don't live in Africa.
Much like the "experts" on Europe....
Mrs Badawi is my favourite.
First time here, great interview, Mr O' Brien was great, well researched and asked great questions, you will always feel like you learnt something when Aunty Zeinab speaks
Nice to see James O' Brian as a person! His Voice is so well known.
Also Zainab Badawi, nice to see her after a long absence. Queen Nzingha!
She came in my thought before I began to write here. I was hoping they would mention her. I am very happy she got her mention before the advert! HA!
Thank you James O'brien for interviewing Zeinab Badawi with true interest, curiosity, and compassion. When you told her to not refer to critical reviews when describing her writing, I teared up a bit. This was impactful to me for a couple of reasons: it shows how seriously you take your job that you actually did research on the book, the guest and how it was received and reminded her about the beautiful and necessary work she has done. I'll never hear the word 'compendium' without thinking of you. The second reason, is a woman we tend to be socialised to consider other opinions over our own and you re-directing her back was a reminder to myself that my work is worthwhile. I have always loved Zeinab Badawi and I'm happy to hear of her book and I'll definitely look for it. Wonderful conversation.
wonderful. lntriguing.