It's a good idea for a podcast, in theory (no pun intended), but I'm not a fan of hosts just reading Superchats for hours. I don't even listen to the EFAP Superchat catchup episodes.
It’s not a show anymore. The people purchasing superchats are the creators at this point, and Mauler and Ryan make it happen. At least EFAP do superchats separately. Before that, they saved the superchats until after the media was done.
Yes let grift flow trought you. :D No problem with that SW has not new content as we speak. :d Kinda like interactives'. Ryan is welth of knowledge. :D
I would like this podcast more if Theory was able to better explain why he enjoys something beyond the simple "it's cool/dope". Mauler and Ryan are just more nuanced with their arguments for good and bad and I feel like Theory is all surface level.
Because obviously he doesn't have a logical ou sound argument for what he likes other than "this what I personally enjoy". Wich is fine but it makes his opinions to be widely inconsistent.
@@dragonknightleader1 It happened with Jay. It happened with Moriarty. It happened with more than HALF of the EFAP rotating cast, actually... It seems to happen a LOT.
I really like the dynamic between these three but the show really suffers from a lack of structure. Theory is just not good at hosting. It’s like he’s not even trying. If he would just try a little bit the show would be so much more engaging.
MauLer and Ryan play off of each other really well, that's the one great thing about the show, shame the third guy that's running it is of painfully average intelligence and doesn't have much to add.
Please start adding some structure like having trivia or debates, not just 10 min of shallow conversation and then reading super chats, Problem is not with mauler or Ryan, it’s theory, everything he does is just do surface level
I really didn't have a problem with Theory before even if he didn't contribute anything to the discussion, but now it seems like he's actively hindering the discussion.
You can hear and see the disappointment in Ryan and mauler when theory doesn't understand what they're saying. Makes me wonder how long they'll tough it out
He'll have an encyclopedic knowledge of the cool moments and Lucas facts; but there'll be huge swathes of the actual plot that he's never actually thought of that deeply
@@samwallaceart288 I feel that would be Ryan in that regard. Theory wasn’t aware of the reason Lizzo was in Mandolorian. On the last Grift episode, Ryan was trying to find a scene from SW episode 1 about Obi Wan’s lightsaber being broken. I could see Ryan have enough SW knowledge to cover a 3-part podcast.
27:10 MauLer: “Why is there a crosshair on his face?” Theory: “‘Cause he’s crosshair. Maybe the empire did it to him.” Theory, he had the stupid crosshair etched into his face in the last season of TCW, you gnome. You said you like this stuff, right?
It now makes complete sense why Theory initially praises everything he watches and why Andor was hard for him to watch. He just doesn't register any kind of details and just relies on what the scenes make him feel.
lol, I did find that eye rolling. Even I knew Crosshair had that tattoo on his face prior to the fall of the Republic. And I only watched the first season.
Sorry Mauler, but I can't watch this podcast anymore. Theory adds nothing to this dynamic and the majority of the time is spent reading super chats instead of discussing anything.
I always enjoy these discussions, but I'm often frustrated by them, too. I just wish Theory would be a little more critical sometimes, even if he wants to be more forgiving. Ryan and MaulEr are great parts of the show and really add something that wouldn't be there otherwise.
If you muted him every time he said “resurrect this character”, “this would be dope”, “I am looking forward to next Star Wars product”, and “let’s talk about my light saber shop”, the podcast would be hosted by Mauler and Ryan instead.
I'll save you the trouble: Theory: I wanna preserve what Lucas created. Also theory: I enjoy this new Disney stuff that ruins what Lucas created. Rinse and repeat.
You can say, "George put it in there." All you want, it doesn't matter. An additional magic system is a redundant and dumb idea, and regardless, George isn't the one helming the franchise.
The thing about magic in Star Wars is, if it's another way of using the Force, that's FINE. But if you say "it's unrelated to the Force," then where the hell does it come from? Are there any drawbacks to studying magic over the Force? I mean, Theory mentioned the whole Dooku boils thing, but how about the part where Grevious easily wrecks their shit by having a droid blow up their cave and then go stab them with his lightsabers?
@@BobKyle-hz2yiit's basically the "Mauler and Ryan hour" (or hours, i guess), with Theory occasionally reading a superchat and saying something dumb. Half the time, it feels like they're humoring Theory.
Theory, magic sure is interesting. Why don't add priests too? Isn't that also interesting? We can have a Pope with a lightsaber. Wait, I have another idea. How about a bard. Completely new magic system for the bard too. Wouldn't that be interesting. He plays wonderwall and every Jedi starts ejaculating until they die of dehydration. Only works on men for some reason. Just another element to make the world more interesting.
Adding magic to Star Wars is lame. We already have it its called the force. I hate the idea of them pulling powers out of there ass because then it just undermines stuff that was already preestablished. Theory is such a basic bitch when it comes to this franchise. He's literally like a 10 year old writing fan fiction. Its embarrassing how emotionally immature he is when it comes to this IP compared to MauLer and Ryan when there all guys around the same age.
I get it... If you have nothing to say, you have nothing to say... but don't click bait me with a "Dune discussion" title and it's over after 10 minutes of "it's fine." "I don't get it" and "it's not my thing"s. I am disappointed overall with this podcast and I'm only 20 minutes into it.
Give it another 10 minutes where they do Superchats exclusively. I know they meant the title of the podcast to be ironic but it's looking more and more like a grift.
I honestly don't know why or how Mauler and Ryan got dragged into a podcast. It's definitely funny as hell, but that's only thanks to both of them. I kind of want them to just disband because Theory provides no intellectual commentary or strong principles. He just a consumer, doesn't mean he's bad but he's not worth listening to.
I'm surprised that Theory, someone who is so into Star Wars lore, does not appreciate how introducing non-force 'magic' substantially undermines the cosmology of the Star Wars universe, something that George always put great effort into. The Force is an energy field which permeates the galaxy and 'binds it together'. Living beings can interact with the force by learning to harness their midichlorians to perform feats that otherwise would not be possible. They can do this because they are harnessing the very field that underpins all of reality. It fits into a holistic account of the cosmology and metaphysics of the Star Wars universe. You cannot then just come along and arbitrarily throw in an entire new type of power which somehow exists alongside that. How does it work? How does it relate to the force? If it is force-based, how come Jedi or Sith never use it? It doesn't make sense because it has no place in the Star Wars cosmology established by Lucas. So why would Theory defend such nonsense? Because "its cool"? What a lame reason.
I dont understand this show. Mauler and Ryan can talk to each other for hours about different stuff while theory doesn't fit the vibe at all, Ryan knows more about SW than the so called "SW guy" its all just *"guys spam 1 if you thing Filoni is the greatest, guys like and subscribe guys, muh lightsaber guys "*
Imagine you’re in a desert....you have gone hungry and thirsty for days....but then praise the Don a miracle you see MauLer and Ryan before you, serving you a buffet of different top class meals, along with a wide variety of the finest beverages in the world....for a minute or two you get a small taste of it all and you feel like you're in heaven.....but then suddenly Theory comes and takes the biggest shit that any living creature has ever done in the history of our planet right on your food and urinates in every drink. Now the food, the drinks, you, MauLer and Ryan are drenched in shit and soaked in piss. Now you you're wondering why the fuck you're still in this desert and start to think that you should just end it all. But MauLer and Ryan are so nice and your stupid ass can't let go of the hope that one day....maybe Theory would stop coming and ruining the feast. This is what Star Grift is to me.
Based on the last couple episodes Ill assume that theory is once again here just to read superchats and be barely able to comprehend the words the others are saying. Why is Mauler still doing this to himself? Is he gathering material for a takedown video?
Theory seems what people used to call Edso, easily distracted by shiny objects. Cant focus on anything unless its flashing lights and colors, big sounds and constant action. Only considering of story or character quality is "did cool thing"
It makes me wonder if he understands what makes the storytelling of the OT good, considering he apparently thinks Luke's appearance in the Mando Season 2 finale to be in-character. I really wouldn't be surprised if I found out he thinks the Prequels are better than the OT because the action scenes are prettier.
@@nogoodreasonYT I don't think he favors the PT over the OT. But I'd wager he doesn't actually know why he prefers the OT, if he does. That it comes down to some intangible feeling he can't articulate. Or as another commenter said, he would just say "it's dope"
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 Rags harassing Wolf with some dumb language hypothetical, and just when you think he's gonna shut up Ryan chimes in with his own linguistic hot take on Rags and Wolf is just like "what is happening??"
It feels like Theory is more into the potential of Star Wars than anything else. If they introduce something new, he's going to approach it with a high level of optimism, which is admirable by itself. However, I think this approach leaves him partially blind to things that have the potential to be poor decisions within the SW universe from the get-go. That being said, I love his discussions with Mauler and Ryan. Hail Star Grift.
Mauler: I didn't have a full grasp on the full political situation in Dune 2 but I knew enough. It was kind of weird. Theory: I like comic book movie. Never change, Theory. Never change.
@@MegaSpideymanIt was right in the beginning of the stream. It got covered way later in the stream. Hadn't gotten to that point when I made my comment. The question was to Mauler about Attack on Titan.
It physically hurts to listen to his bs rewrites. I cannot believe that he legitimately loves SW and its universe if so many of his ideas involve breaking it
yeah. he loves lightsabers and forcepowers.. it´s funny to me how often he talk about bad writing, and then legitimately thinks he can think up better solutions on the spot, with zero effort. That is exactly the mistake Disney made.
Shoutout to the guy who called Theory pathetic!!! See how defensive he gets? The only time Theory engages in conversation is when it’s about himself. He will cut off Ryan and Mauler to read a super chat that positively talks about him. Dude is a Narcissist.
Or butt into their Dune 2 conversation with how he can't wait to see the next Deadpool movie. Props to Ryan and Mauler for more-or-less ignoring him and moving on with what they were talking about.
TL;DR - Theory, with all sincerity, please wake up. I originally thought Star Grift was a good idea, and to a point I still do. However, it's becoming more difficult to listen to. Theory, I know you want to keep Star Wars alive and fun, but these standards you have are not good. I don't even think its healthy for your mental state. Please, stop accepting every idea with the name Star Wars slapped on it by Disney. You are free to fight to keep Star Wars alive, but this is not the way to do it. Theory, cant you see the more Disney adds, the more Star Wars loses its identity and the more it becomes sludge? Eventually, you cannot call it Star Wars anymore. All that is left is a husk of a dead name. Its like having a sandbox at a playground that was great to play in. Then, a new HOA leader arrives with new members/staff. He starts throwing cheap junk toys into the sandbox. After that, the person permits nontrained toddlers to do what they want in the sandbox. Eventually, the sand is replaced with a gross mix of fecal matter, piss, clay, and mud with a little mix of cat litter and sand. The only good thing about it is the faint febreeze smell. The sandbox is no longer a sandbox. You can no longer make fun castles nor trenches. Even if you try, it looks awful. There are only three good options; a) clean out the sandbox (which will need to be done frequently), b) remove the HOA leader and staff or c) build or find a better sandbox.
Man I wish this podcast would be just Mauler and Ryan as well as other guests they bring on cause I watch this show for them Theory just doesn't do it for me he constantly copes and gives excuses not contributing much to discussions he's boring unfortunately
@MegaSpideyman Bricky talks about/discusses/critiques video games as opposed to movies, but they all have channels devoted to discussion and commentary.
Theory's claim of Andor being boring is rich, since he was defending that dreadful Ahsoka show. If we were to cut out all of the padding such as the pointless pauses, staring, walking, lingering shots, and fights that had no consequences, that show wouldn't have enough content to fill even half of a movie. Mauler and Ryan really should start pushing more and showing that Dave Filoni has neither the talent nor passion for the story.
At least the little details in Andor that may appear boring to some actually had meaning. Even the breakfast scenes weren't a waste of time. Even the OT had that kind of stuff!
@@Aikurisu The breakfast scenes are dense with characterization, as are all of the other 'slow' scenes in Andor. It's one of the reasons I love the show, and why I fundamentally disagree with Theory saying it's boring and why I can't understand Ryan claiming that he doesn't find it interesting. In Ahsoka, so little information is conveyed that you can only barely figure out who people are, and such significant character contradictions are made (i.e. Ahsoka and Ezra not caring that Sabine betrayed THE GALAXY to find Ezra) that what little we get is entirely inconsequential. The fact is that Theory simply doesn't appreciate good storytelling for what it is. He's an idiot who is perfectly happy for anything to happen as long as he sees the colors and hears the sounds that he likes.
I hate when magic is used in storytelling as a replacement for good writing. Don’t know how make this sene work? ”Magic” Don’t know how get this character out of trouble? “Magic” The ultimate get out of jail card. You guessed it “Magic”.
Which is such a shame because magic written well can add a lot to the story. I feel like magic as a device gets a bad rap simply because the people who typically write it don't bother thinking it through.
@@deforesterdThe short version is: Paul's family is set up for failure by the Emperor and knocked down by the baddies; his mom being one of the witches who controls everything behind the scenes, goes against the wishes of her order to keep her son alive. They flee to the natives of the planet who are resisting the baddies; these natives have been implanted with a fake Messiah myth for thousands of years. Purpose of this fake Messiah myth is so that the witch order can weaponize it with a man of their choosing to go against the Empire when the time is right; Paul is one of many royal sons raised to be applicable to this myth should the order choose him in his lifetime. Paul's mom saving him and getting him to the natives goes off-script from what the witch order wanted, and his mom uses their own propaganda against them to make her son this mythical chosen one defended by a fanatical army who've resisted imperial firepower their whole lives. The actual story here is that Paul has been taught in his mother's witching ways and is gifted in foresight, and being on the planet that produces psychoactive mind-amplifying chemicals makes him one of the most prescient people currently living. While his mom wants him to be powerful so he can protect himself, and wants to avenge his father and help the native people; the more powerful he gets both socially and psychically, the more he realizes he'll need to overthrow the entire Empire, but doing so well start an unstoppable religious jihad that will spread his gospel whether he likes it or not to every planet in the imperium. Throughout the story he tries to temper this and make small changes to the future, but he realizes being more powerful doesn't make him able to change the will of this murder-mob he's cultivated; it just makes him more aware of the things he can't change. Basically it's Lion King meets Game of Thrones: Genocide Ending, but the main character is Dr Manhattan
Maybe the real show discussion was the grifts we starred along the way. Excuse the old man, I'm just sad there's so much neglected potential in this one for structured and focused media discussion. I will be fine; I've still EFAP.
don’t apologize, it’s stupid that they’re allowed to critique and discuss but we have to apologize for sharing our critiques or opinions. This show format is shit because Theory doesn’t know how to host or run an actual podcast. Don’t apologize for noticing it.
@@Gojeto346 Ah, it's just common decency. I am not sorry for having this take, I do stand by it. I do also realize it is a preference of mine at the end of the day. They're more than free to do any kind of podcast they like -- it is entirely free of charge for *us*. I can see how something of this laid-back, almost non-comital format can be appealing to the participants. And I can't expect MauLer to be in a constant state of involved analysis, it is quite taxing a job after all, mentally speaking, to do for a living.
@@garwert It seems like Mauler wants to do that, but most of the response are vapid rebuttals by Theory that he is trying to be nice to or from Ryan who mostly agrees with him. This show has shown me just how much of a great mix Mauler, Rags and Wolf were and even more that Mauler has been able to keep mostly the same energy with guests when one or both were missing (or in the case of Wolf just leaving entirely) It's kind of a miracle as it could easily have turn into something like this.
@@theraven268 Sure, I've endless admiration for MauLer and his mental faculties. He can easily pull off an entertaining and insightful podcast on his own, as much as Fringy and Rags are fantastic hosts. He seems to be dragged down by the lack of direction on the part of Theory, and for obvious reasons can't really change the structure of the show to his whims. Or could be that he genuinely rests on StarGrift, it not being too demanding on the discussion part. You could hear it in his voice on EFAP the last year or so, I've the impression it takes a toll on him.
This podcast is the reason I look towards Monday. But man, please get Theory to actually talk about Star Wars. Also expand your palettes, talk more about Legends, and discuss legends material with Ryan… Go through legends material together so you can discuss and further envelope yourselves in deeper conversations about story. I know MauLer doesn’t read, but damn man. At least conjure up the skill to read. So it’s not so reliant upon chat to actually bring up conversation points. Stop making this podcast twenty minutes of topic and 3 hours of super chats.
You do know that you don't have to listen to all 3 hours? The super chats spark other discussions and the original plan was for a 1 hour podcast, which works with a short discussion and super chats, but turned longer with the introduction of a 3rd person.
Indeed, the old Sith Lords by themselves are interesting. They were fallen Jedi that made themselves gods to the natives and made them build elaborate tombs as they constantly wage civil war on each other. Cooler names too.
I like to think of The Force as a more scientific understanding of mana in the Star Wars universe. That said, it seems ridiculous that only the Jedi (and eventually the Sith) would find a way to tap into it when it makes perfect sense that this power has been harnessed in a variety of ways over the centuries. Neither the Jedi nor Sith have a monopoly over it, after all, and it could be argued that even they have a limited grasp of its potential. Granted, their ancestors were far more knowledgeable about its nature, and what has been passed down through their respective orders is a fractured understanding of it at best. (Much like how the Jedi, shortly before the fall of the Republic, lost the knowledge of true Force healing and so on.) Not that I care about Filoni's 'Night Sisters'. They're his unimaginative way to shoehorn in witchcraft/paganism into SW because his wife is a follower. He never cared about their original lore.
On Dune Part 2, a few points I'd push back on with the discussion here is that the film makes it very clear that the Bene Gesserit are in control, the Reverend Mother basically tells Irulan, "Yeah, I'm overthrowing your father, and yes I created the scenario which leads to his downfall. Your point being?" The Emperor in Dune is more like the Holy Roman Emperor in a sense and not the tyrannical absolutist of Star Wars, which spoiler alert comes later in the series to a whole other level of control, which becomes the point Herbert was trying to make. It's important to keep in mind that this came before Star Wars and inspired it and GOT in a way, though it leans closer to GOT in it's nature than SW more often than not being a more grounded political thriller with Sci Fi trappings. Another thing to note and I find strange is MauLer's connection to Rabban (maybe because it's Batista?) The character isn't really a character in the book or the movie, just a brutal enforcer for the Baron who get's whacked offscreen to make way for Feyd, they expanded and gave the character more screentime in the movie maybe to his detriment, I would have killed him when he was fleeing in the ornithopter even more bluntly than his actual death scene. The Harkonnen's won, they beat Atreides, that is also made very clear in the film. The Baron already played the long game and sort of sit's back and readies another against the Emperor, which is why Paul's realization that he is a Harkonnen so important, he abandons his Atreides mentality and embraces Muad'dib fully to use it as a Harkonnen would. He blindsides the other players and sweeps the board before they have their pieces set, this movie was the wrap up, the falling action in a sense. It's odd, but I view it more like the LOTR extended films, it needs to be watched back to back with the first and likely edited together so there are no credits between them for the complete experience. Connecting with Paul is difficult, because on some level it's supposed to be, sort of like Napoleon he is treated as a historical figure. He is remarkably human despite his god like power, which in turn makes him all the more tragic and terrifying because you are aware of it but most other's are not and the consequences are beyond dire though perhaps ultimately necessary in the grander narrative of the series. That's why I liked Chani's changes in the movie, and I know I'm in the minority on this point, but it sold the relationship that he was so vulnerable and open with her that she knew what he was and what he was afraid of becoming and was protective of him and trying to save him from himself only to fail.
I agree, the Bene Gesserit are always in control. That’s why they have never actually “taken” any side during the war, it is all their doing to have the kwisatz haderach for control and bend the world to their will in an instant, rather than spending years in planning and execution. Also, yes the reveal of Paul’s heritage made it clearer that using the muad'dib persona will be their only way of survival, because that’s how the Harkonen’s have survived. However, to be honest I have seen the channel to knit pick on things which they don’t like and be generous to films which they do.
Quite well put sir. i concur with many statements. Antihero and very dark turn of Paul was holly s***t they really went all jihad onto them. It was quite fast turn but after high DMT resurrection i can see that turn to be fully justified. Essentially i really cant see Paul as different from Harkoneens IMO. Although i can see dialogue could be expanded much more. But that is not Denis style and he fully embraced that. I m sucker for visual "show dont tell" and music background mood setting shots. Denis really can elevate otherwise quite reckless script into something too behold. Visual and music and folly design was 10/10. Plot was solid 6/10. Fair final assessment for movie is EZ 8/10.
I have a lot of issues with this movie, but Chani being a voice of reason who sees the situation for the tragedy it is is a good change. My issue with the movie is they showed basically none of the cultures involved; we got all of the events but because we don't get the people, it's just events.
I much prefer the Legends version of the Witches of Dathomir. Their magic just being the force, just seen from a different religious point of view was much better.
The Irony of Star Grift isn’t that they’re not actually grifters, it’s that Theory is ACTUALLY a grifter while he relies on Maulers an Ryan’s goodwill with people to try and sell more of his Chinese drop shipped bullshit. Oh wait I forgot how “cool” it all is. That makes it right!!
I don't know about other stuff but didn't Mauler say he bought a Lightsaber from him and it was great? And i heard other people say the Lightsabers were good. This comment feels like just shitting on Theory because you don't like him. Theory feels like a 3rd wheel and doesn't really seem to know what to talk about anymore but saying he is grifting is a bit much. Like Ryan joined after a couple of episodes and Mauler has his own podcast when they don't want to come anymore they can just stop.
I don't think he's a "grifter," because that implies insincerity. I think he's sincere, for better or for worse. Edit: he is absolutely only there to shill, though
@@Admiral-General_Aladeen theory is absolutely just grifting. Adds nothing to the discussion, advertises his upcoming fan fiction, advertises his lightsabers, tries to come up with merch ideas, is mostly here to read super chats (again - money), etc etc. doesn’t engage in the discussion, yawns like he doesn’t really wanna do this, idk I have nothing personal against the dude, but the podcast speaks for itself especially when compared to MauLer and Ryan’s input
Me: clicks to hear Dune reactions. This video: 3 hours of super chats, and then Mauler doesnt want to talk about it very much... Also- SWT sounds like he hasn't even seen it with those takes on the ending (and then he jumps on Deadpool 3, oof)...
I think Theory is a good guy. A really good guy. But I am sorry, he’s dumb as rocks lol. Ryan is probably one of the funniest UA-camrs out there though. I just love the way he talks. The words he uses crack me up.
My take on Villeneuve’s Dune is that, as a big fan of the book (and the board game) is that I do really like his Dune movies but they’re not a good replacement at all for the book. It’s very much a “Dune lite”, the broad strokes are there but the essence has been heavily muted. I expect to rewatch and enjoy these films for a long time but there’s still a lot that could have been done better, and I’m a bit disappointed that I don’t think it will be done better - this is probably going to be considered the “definitive” adaptation for the foreseeable future. People are going to be scared to try again, much like how people will be scared to try Lord of the Rings again after Jackson’s trilogy, but Villeneuve’s Dune is not nearly as strong as Jackson’s LotR (to be fair, much as I adore Dune I’m not sure I’d put it at the level of Tolkien’s LotR either).
I wish Mauler and Ryan would drop Theory and just do this by themselves, they do 99% of the work while Theory just shills for likes and super chats while he advertises his bullshit and gives 0 insight or reaction to any of the super chats people spend money on.
I know dude, he starts reading supers like 10 minutes into a 3 hour stream. Constantly pushing his merch while barely adding anything to the star wars conversation despite being a literal sw channel. Basically what you said. Im here for mauler and ryan, notice how much better the conversation gets when theory steps out? His greed is overshadowing his passion and it shows
@@mattchooblinkbro don’t forget to smash that like button and hit subscribe, also UA-cam takes abunch of their revenue so please just be sure to mail cash directly to Theory!!! He is a starving artist who is leeching off of others creativity, he needs all the help he can get!!
Theory saying he just wants lightsabers and blasters to go pew pew actually pissed me off, Andor is the best star wars content made after EP 6 and he finds it "boring"... idk some people just don't pay attention to characters so that's what happens, no shiny lights no thumbs up from them
His line of thinking is shared with a lot of people and is the reason why Star Wars and marvel is the way it is now. He has zero self reflection and it’s honestly annoying that Mauler and Ryan won’t call it out.
him talking about the addition of magic despite already having the force in the SW universe also pisses me off lmao, I get why mauler and Ryan don't say much, they want to try going really slow on him but man it gets upsetting sometimes@@Gojeto346
This entire podcast feels like Mualer (and maybe Ryan, I know a lot less of him) walking on eggshells and Theory says he doesn't want that, but I feel like he doesn't really understand what he's asking for. Everything I've seen Theory state he desires is the shit Mauler typically lambasts.
Everything Theory says is hollow; he plugs his channel, plugs his store and merch, doesn't pay much attention to the super-chats, and doesn't actually discuss anything with his co-hosts. An empty shill is what I see, and I don't think I'm alone in that.
But there was pew pew in Andor, i his issue that there wasn't enough then? And about the lightsaber, did he not like Mandalorian until there was a lightsaber?I feel like Theory was on the Mandalorian wagon from the start despite the lack of lightsabers in the start but i may be wrong I haven't watched Mandotardian but from what i understand there wasn't a lightsaber in most of the first season which is the one most people liked.
I really just cannot get people who get bored in dialogue scenes (like Theory talking about the cereal scenes). Like how do you watch any well written slow drama that exists if that character stuff doesn’t excite you? You’d have a point if literally nothing was being said but ALOT is said in those scenes. Two characters sitting down can excite me just as much if not more than a blaster fight. Just kinda speaks to what your priorities are for the stories you like
Heck, even the OT had cereal scene moments. All ironically involving Theory's favourite character, Luke. Like say when he's having a meal with his family while discussing what's up with R2 before Owen tells the boy to get the droid's memory wiped. Or say those times at Dagobah when Luke is eating something, whether at Yoda's or having rations in the swamp.
I've gotten so frustrated with Theory and others praising Filoni so much after watching Ahsoka and these podcasts I'm actually going to start watching The Clone Wars. Based on Theory's taste and explanation's for his rating system, I have a feeling I'm going to dislike it, but I'm going to go into it as unbiased as possible. I'll see you all next Grift. Wish me luck.
It's fine, but I'd recommend checking out anything related to The Clone Wars Multimedia Project, prior to Filoni's involvement with Star Wars. It was better without him.
@@Aikurisu Thanks for the info! I actually loved the Tartakovsky animation when it first came out. I remember Bounty Hunter fondly and the Clone Wars game was certainly an interesting game for its time. I was so young I really wasn't aware that these projects were all made in a wave. Never checked out Shatterpoint but I'll be sure to give it a look.
@@KaNoMikoProductions Thanks! I'm intrigued because I really do want to understand Filoni but from what I've seen in live action I just don't get the defense for him. I will say, I've been burning through plenty of interviews and he does tend to "say the right thing" even if his writing doesn't reflect that. It's a complicated issue for sure with minefields everywhere. I'm taking the approach of "every hill in Star Wars has at least one fan willing to die on it." so I'd prefer to give them the respect of attempting to take that hill while being as researched and prepared as possible.
1:31:07 So the few people who watched it liked it… Just because the percentage is high does not mean that (a) a lot of people watched it, (b) that the Star Wars fanbase all watched and enjoyed it, or (c) that it was a well-written show. From what I remember, Ahsoka had fewer numbers than Andor, and very few people watched Andor as it came out. So a tiny portion of fans watched it and drooled over it; yippee, Star Wars is saved…
This is one of the reasons I love mauler. He’s the only one saying what I’m thinking about dune 2. The more I think about how much they wasted the characters the less I like it. Raban and the baron and the emperor were all wasted potential. Gurney was just thrown in like an afterthought. They brush past way too many important things like the atomics so they can have ANOTHER scene of Paul having vague visions.
Rabban was never a character even in the first film, even less in the book, I'm not sure what else they could have done other than kill him sooner. The Baron already won against the Atreides, he accomplished his lifelong goal and is moving on to a grander stage by using the Emperor's weakness against him and starting a civil war, he is disconnected from Arrakis in favor of planning his new scheme, we got enough to understand that in his talk with Feyd in the bathtub. He is reactive more than active in this section of the story because he is dealing with unknowns and later an enemy that can predict and counter his every move. The atomics were only ever a plot device and that's all they could be, they offered an explanation for why the Great Houses didn't just sweep down and take on Paul in his fledgling ascension because he threatened to essentially start a galactic dark age if they did. The visions are vital to the story, everything Paul does after the water of life is in the context of the visions of the future.
@@mycaleb8 Very little of the action made much sense. Cause and effect gets borked with how new stuff is constantly introduced with no setup like the nukes. Paul and mom gets shat on for development they don't talk with eachother and those 2 were the only good established characters coming from the first one. Antagonists are dull and one dimensional. There is not enough in this movie to warrant a 6. Squid Game got a 5 and that at least had characters
I love the dynamic that you three have. You’re all very different and how you approach talking about Star Wars and movies, but it works so well. That’s probably why I like it so much, also, you guys are all pretty chill as well.
Theory seems somewhat simple minded but doesn't seem to be a bad guy. Maybe his interactions with Mauler and Ryan will help him grow a bit intellectually. ;)
I'd like to take a moment to thank the comment section... between all the comments and replies I'm sifting throuh, you are giving me the discussion I hope for in the podcast.
Sheesh. Theory's audience loves these, but it's definitely soured here. These are absolutely a highlight of my mondays. Hope the response doesn't discourage Mauler from doing them
@@Masteroftheweb Most of the money is on SWT channel. Mauler and Ryan uploads these to their channels for views but most the views are on SWT. But Mauler still makes money on EFAP and Ryan on his own channels and G&G. I think they just wanna show him his blind optimism in SW is misplaced here and to his fanbase.
Yeah, there's a lot of hate for Theory here but I hope that doesn't cause tensions between the three. This has been the best show on UA-cam in years, imo, regardless of Theory's bad takes or Mauler's absolute ignorance of anything Star Wars beyond the trilogy films. And as for Ryan... honestly, he's the main reason I tune in. Love his insight the most.
I think the fact that the characters are sort of one dimesional makes the casting stick out because you see all the famous actors instead of the characters, I think this movie would have worked better with only a few stars and more lesser known actors. Chis Walken stuck out like a sore thumb, I kept hearing him say "I need more cowbell"
One of Villeneuve's problems is his casting. He always picks A-listers coming off of recent hits, which makes their bargaining position strong so they can ask for $20 million or more per actor. He then directs them into delivering dreary, minimalist characters with little subtext to their dialog, so whatever skill and charisma they have as actors doesn't show up on screen. I don't like Zendaya generally, but she was playing the role as directed. Ask yourself this diagnostic question, "Could this role be played by Rich Evans?" Because people like Rich Evans can do the job Villeneuve wants, but at less than $1 million.
@@dragonknightleader1 I dunno. A lot of the actors he used in this worked with him on other projects and the one's that haven't are almost always rock solid or great in other stuff they're in.
@@dragonknightleader1 I think its a mixture of casting, direction and even writing to a degree. The actors are great actors giving fine performances but their characters arent fleshed out enough for me to be able to see them as the character, it just doesnt exist in the story. This is something you have to work around some way, you can cast lesser knowns, you can give more characterization or you can try to direct the performances in a different way. Its all a balancing act and I think the big names end up hurting more than helping.
@@archstanton9073 No. Bautista and Brolin are returning actors. Most of the cast have not worked for him before. It still doesn't address my main point, he gets good actors and then directs them to be bland.
1:13:44 i do remember mauler saying he was favorable on TFA until he saw the E;R video which sparked his analysis and criticism. I think mauler arrives to same conclusion eventually but without the internet mauler would be favorable on TFA for a bit longer.
Actually how the hell did I not see ANYTHING until theory mentioned it about Akira Toriyama passing away? I am actually so upset to hear about this. Dragon Ball Z despite its many shortcomings, will always be a favorite of mine. The thing Akira got right was character. While I am not much of a Manga person, usually just stick to anime's, I have seen enough of Akria manga work through various videos and me just taking a look at them myself to know how talented this man at drawing Manga panels. His legacy has been immense on the Manga/Anime world. He created the template that literally every shonen story running today can be traced back to. Even people who have never watched Dragonball or DBZ or even anime in general know what a Super Saiyan is. Rest In Peace Akira Toriyama, wish we actually had some dragonballs to wish ya back ;( Wish his loved ones he has sadly been forced to leave behind are healthy and live long happy lives.
Always thought nightsister Magic was supposed to be another facet of darkside force use. Like old republic sith alchemy. Granted in the show its OP. In the EU I guess it was more toned down and made more sense but the books which have nightsisters are among the ones I coincidentally haven't read
That's because the night sister magic in TCW/Ahsoka is simply Filoni writing in witchcraft/paganism into the galaxy because his wife is a follower of that stuff.
Does Theory's fanbase...accept this? This is arguably just robbing your audience. Still cant believe he snapped over someone drawing art of this trash fire. We love your fanart Beowin!(spelling!?)
@@socialjihad5724 Referencing that these podcasts are done on SWT channel and he discusses a topic for about 20 min while barely speaking and have Ryan and Mauler pretty much have a discussion/debate. Then for the next 2 and a half hours SWT reads super chats while plugging his merch.
@@socialjihad5724 Lol my bad. I didn't read the full comment. I just read up to his fanbase accepting this and how he is robbing the audience because of his complete lack of input into the conversation and how he just reads super chats for 3 hours.
@socialjihad5724 still not sure about spelling but 1 or 2 episodes ago, Beowin, a regular fan artist of EFAP, drew up some fanart of Star Grift. He's got a...unique drawing style so I don't wholly fault Theory for snapping at it but I think it's rude when someone is enough of a fan of your work to draw it and you're not at least appreciative. Don't denigrate your fans.
Keep the magic in the "What if Anakin had an apprentice storyline". In the main universe, ahsoka died if she ever existed, and no one has heard of magic that is separate from the force.
I recently found a channel called The Bread Circus that did a 12hr retrospective on The Phantom Menace, really cool video, a couple proposed changes but mostly looking at the deep lore to see how much the movie does or does not stick to the canon.
2:23:10 To be fair Mauler, you guys and Little Platoon spent two-hours and fifteen minutes arguing over whether or not an effect of some sand moving in Rings of Power was magic or not. That's the one that gives me PTSD.
1:42:00 Theory must have been bored out of his mind during Degoba, the repair of the ‘falcon in the asteroid belt, and the beginning of Bespin in The Empire Strikes Back.
All due respect, highly disagree with theory on having both the force and nightsister magic being "cool" when the force in itself is its own fleshed out magic system. One piece has a great standalone magic system with devil fruits, where you eat one and gain a completely different ability but you lose the ability to swim in a world 90% covered by water. If it added in say a form of magic that doesn't get explained I'd be very turned off and feel there's no reason to have something new in this world
In Legends EU the dathomir witches, magic, etc etc across the galaxy and from various groups are all derivatives of the force.. and mean, common sense would dictate as well since the force is your power system in lore..
This show has quickly become 20 minutes of discussing a topic, followed by 2 hours of Theory reading superchats
It's a good idea for a podcast, in theory (no pun intended), but I'm not a fan of hosts just reading Superchats for hours. I don't even listen to the EFAP Superchat catchup episodes.
It’s not a show anymore. The people purchasing superchats are the creators at this point, and Mauler and Ryan make it happen.
At least EFAP do superchats separately. Before that, they saved the superchats until after the media was done.
Well how else is he gonna shill his lightsaber site!!!
And 3 hours of Theory not realizing MauLer and Ryan are mocking him
Yes let grift flow trought you. :D No problem with that SW has not new content as we speak. :d Kinda like interactives'. Ryan is welth of knowledge. :D
I would like this podcast more if Theory was able to better explain why he enjoys something beyond the simple "it's cool/dope". Mauler and Ryan are just more nuanced with their arguments for good and bad and I feel like Theory is all surface level.
Because obviously he doesn't have a logical ou sound argument for what he likes other than "this what I personally enjoy". Wich is fine but it makes his opinions to be widely inconsistent.
Yeah, I think it's an intelligence roll that Theory consistently fails at.
Well this is how he learns. I'm willing to give him some time. Maybe he'll pick up some better habits.
@@bad-people6510 No, that never happens.
@@dragonknightleader1
It happened with Jay. It happened with Moriarty. It happened with more than HALF of the EFAP rotating cast, actually...
It seems to happen a LOT.
I really like the dynamic between these three but the show really suffers from a lack of structure. Theory is just not good at hosting. It’s like he’s not even trying. If he would just try a little bit the show would be so much more engaging.
MauLer and Ryan play off of each other really well, that's the one great thing about the show, shame the third guy that's running it is of painfully average intelligence and doesn't have much to add.
Average is being generous
I find it funny how theory is the worst part of his own podcast
Please start adding some structure like having trivia or debates, not just 10 min of shallow conversation and then reading super chats, Problem is not with mauler or Ryan, it’s theory, everything he does is just do surface level
His form of criticism sucks
I really didn't have a problem with Theory before even if he didn't contribute anything to the discussion, but now it seems like he's actively hindering the discussion.
He’s been doing that the entire time sorry man but you’re catching on really late.
@@Gojeto346 Isn't it better late than never?
@@Gojeto346 any examples?
@@HerohammerStudios🤓🤓🤓🤓 go watch the other episodes lmfao I’m not your research student lmfao.
You can hear and see the disappointment in Ryan and mauler when theory doesn't understand what they're saying. Makes me wonder how long they'll tough it out
Theory thinking he can win a debate on the PT against Mauler without even rewatching it is hilarious
Rewatching it wouldn’t have made a difference
Hell, theory cannot win a debate on things he built his channel on.
Feel like theory has probably rewatched the prequels a million times, so I think it's fair in that aspect. Agruementive skills not so much.
He'll have an encyclopedic knowledge of the cool moments and Lucas facts; but there'll be huge swathes of the actual plot that he's never actually thought of that deeply
@@samwallaceart288 I feel that would be Ryan in that regard.
Theory wasn’t aware of the reason Lizzo was in Mandolorian. On the last Grift episode, Ryan was trying to find a scene from SW episode 1 about Obi Wan’s lightsaber being broken.
I could see Ryan have enough SW knowledge to cover a 3-part podcast.
22:53 26:21 1:27:00
“And this is why Star Wars… cannot grow up.” - MauLer
27:10
MauLer: “Why is there a crosshair on his face?”
Theory: “‘Cause he’s crosshair. Maybe the empire did it to him.”
Theory, he had the stupid crosshair etched into his face in the last season of TCW, you gnome. You said you like this stuff, right?
gnome
He had the crosshair on his face the whole time.
Me when someone makes a joke (I need to pretend they're serious in order to insult them):
It now makes complete sense why Theory initially praises everything he watches and why Andor was hard for him to watch. He just doesn't register any kind of details and just relies on what the scenes make him feel.
lol, I did find that eye rolling. Even I knew Crosshair had that tattoo on his face prior to the fall of the Republic. And I only watched the first season.
Sorry Mauler, but I can't watch this podcast anymore. Theory adds nothing to this dynamic and the majority of the time is spent reading super chats instead of discussing anything.
Sorry about that.
Good news!! It’s cancelled now!! Ryan and Mauler finally realized Theory is a piece of shit who only drags them down!
@@Gojeto346 Do you think so?
I always enjoy these discussions, but I'm often frustrated by them, too. I just wish Theory would be a little more critical sometimes, even if he wants to be more forgiving.
Ryan and MaulEr are great parts of the show and really add something that wouldn't be there otherwise.
I don't even want Theory to be critical I just want him to be more nuanced about why he enjoys something. Anything more than "it's fun/cool".
@@Itchyknuckles Yeah, that could be good, too.
@@Itchyknucklesthat would be dope
@@bbjygm XD
Star Wars Theory dude is the person least interested in talking about Star Wars on this panel.
"We don't need to talk about it, it's a kids show".
Mauler and Ryan could have a separate podcast together and it would slam
Can't wait for another 'insightful' discussion from Theory
Hahahaha, ya ol' fecker!!
If you muted him every time he said “resurrect this character”, “this would be dope”, “I am looking forward to next Star Wars product”, and “let’s talk about my light saber shop”, the podcast would be hosted by Mauler and Ryan instead.
I'll save you the trouble:
Theory: I wanna preserve what Lucas created.
Also theory: I enjoy this new Disney stuff that ruins what Lucas created.
Rinse and repeat.
@@nhagan001
“Imagine you’re in a desert…”
@@ManHamAlsume Oh yes! The literal piss take from him! That was a wonderful analogy.
You can say, "George put it in there." All you want, it doesn't matter. An additional magic system is a redundant and dumb idea, and regardless, George isn't the one helming the franchise.
"Me likey magic!"
- Theory, 2024
Could we get Hasans chair in Theorys stead? I feel like it would bring more to the discussions.
The parts when theory left and we just got his chair were pretty nice
The thing about magic in Star Wars is, if it's another way of using the Force, that's FINE. But if you say "it's unrelated to the Force," then where the hell does it come from? Are there any drawbacks to studying magic over the Force?
I mean, Theory mentioned the whole Dooku boils thing, but how about the part where Grevious easily wrecks their shit by having a droid blow up their cave and then go stab them with his lightsabers?
Theory really living up to the Star Grift name
Let’s see how long it takes them to jump to super chats this time to extend the runtime.
Edit: less than 30 minutes.
This podcast died so fast. There's nothing worth talking about so it's just the superchat readout podcast
@@BobKyle-hz2yiit's basically the "Mauler and Ryan hour" (or hours, i guess), with Theory occasionally reading a superchat and saying something dumb. Half the time, it feels like they're humoring Theory.
54:30 😂😂😂 theory admits that they haven’t even explained the magic system properly and he will still defend it😂😂
Theory, magic sure is interesting. Why don't add priests too? Isn't that also interesting? We can have a Pope with a lightsaber.
Wait, I have another idea. How about a bard. Completely new magic system for the bard too. Wouldn't that be interesting. He plays wonderwall and every Jedi starts ejaculating until they die of dehydration. Only works on men for some reason. Just another element to make the world more interesting.
Sounds dope bro you expanded Star Wars so thats better cause it sounds pretty cool.
@@BananaMana69 sounds like legit peak fire bro 🔥🔥🔥
"Yeah, that'd be like peak dope cool fire, bro, check out my sabers, Filoni can fix Star Wars, where am I, who am I, where is next Star Wars Product?"
Adding magic to Star Wars is lame. We already have it its called the force. I hate the idea of them pulling powers out of there ass because then it just undermines stuff that was already preestablished. Theory is such a basic bitch when it comes to this franchise. He's literally like a 10 year old writing fan fiction. Its embarrassing how emotionally immature he is when it comes to this IP compared to MauLer and Ryan when there all guys around the same age.
would love continued collaboration between MauLer / EFAP crew and Ryan, the other guy not so much
This podcast continues to expose Theory as someone who might not be as knowledgeable and smart about Star Wars as we might have thought lol
I had no expectations of him and I'm still disappointed.
I get it... If you have nothing to say, you have nothing to say... but don't click bait me with a "Dune discussion" title and it's over after 10 minutes of "it's fine." "I don't get it" and "it's not my thing"s. I am disappointed overall with this podcast and I'm only 20 minutes into it.
Give it another 10 minutes where they do Superchats exclusively. I know they meant the title of the podcast to be ironic but it's looking more and more like a grift.
Good to know, I was wanting them to actually discuss dune. I won't waste my time now.
I honestly don't know why or how Mauler and Ryan got dragged into a podcast. It's definitely funny as hell, but that's only thanks to both of them. I kind of want them to just disband because Theory provides no intellectual commentary or strong principles. He just a consumer, doesn't mean he's bad but he's not worth listening to.
I'm surprised that Theory, someone who is so into Star Wars lore, does not appreciate how introducing non-force 'magic' substantially undermines the cosmology of the Star Wars universe, something that George always put great effort into. The Force is an energy field which permeates the galaxy and 'binds it together'. Living beings can interact with the force by learning to harness their midichlorians to perform feats that otherwise would not be possible. They can do this because they are harnessing the very field that underpins all of reality. It fits into a holistic account of the cosmology and metaphysics of the Star Wars universe. You cannot then just come along and arbitrarily throw in an entire new type of power which somehow exists alongside that. How does it work? How does it relate to the force? If it is force-based, how come Jedi or Sith never use it? It doesn't make sense because it has no place in the Star Wars cosmology established by Lucas. So why would Theory defend such nonsense? Because "its cool"? What a lame reason.
Because he's just a Yes-Man. He just *likes* everything Star Wars and will defend all the trash based purely on that.
It’s the force
efap would eat theory alive, gees.
They did poke fun at him a couple times mostly rags at least
I'd like to see ryan become a regular. theory doesn't fit the vibe, which is fine. most don't.
51:09
Mauler takes psychic damage.
It's super effective.
LOL
Mauler has resistance to psychic damage, but he definitely failed the saving throw.
He had an aneurysm 😂😂😂
Theory is so dense, its getting annoying.
I dont understand this show. Mauler and Ryan can talk to each other for hours about different stuff
while theory doesn't fit the vibe at all, Ryan knows more about SW than the so called "SW guy"
its all just *"guys spam 1 if you thing Filoni is the greatest, guys like and subscribe guys, muh lightsaber guys "*
I really enjoy these streams as I get to see Ryan completely nerd out. 🤷♂️
I love this show, the more swt talks the more he shows how simple minded he is 😂
It’s a movie about space worms intended for people who hate dialogue
Imagine you’re in a desert....you have gone hungry and thirsty for days....but then praise the Don a miracle you see MauLer and Ryan before you, serving you a buffet of different top class meals, along with a wide variety of the finest beverages in the world....for a minute or two you get a small taste of it all and you feel like you're in heaven.....but then suddenly Theory comes and takes the biggest shit that any living creature has ever done in the history of our planet right on your food and urinates in every drink. Now the food, the drinks, you, MauLer and Ryan are drenched in shit and soaked in piss. Now you you're wondering why the fuck you're still in this desert and start to think that you should just end it all. But MauLer and Ryan are so nice and your stupid ass can't let go of the hope that one day....maybe Theory would stop coming and ruining the feast.
This is what Star Grift is to me.
As your therapist, that was a cool story. But tell me how you REALLY feel😂😂
Based on the last couple episodes Ill assume that theory is once again here just to read superchats and be barely able to comprehend the words the others are saying. Why is Mauler still doing this to himself? Is he gathering material for a takedown video?
Doubtful. He's not a weird creep so I don't imagine he would do that.
Yeah I'd think he has more integrity than that.
@@ILikeBleachItsTrue Sure bud
@@mycaleb8 He did that to Synthetic Man
@@MM2STARS No he didn't. What show did Mauler have with Synthetic Man?
Turns out I already owned a few Dune popcorn buckets before the official one.
... Were they very "used"?
=)
Ryan doing Luthen’s speech as Omega was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while
Timestamp?
38:29
37:18 you're welcome 😂
I dont recognize the dude on the right... Where is Pharoh Ryan.
Came to find out why Drinker said this show was going to implode soon on his latest catch up. Now I get it 😂
Same here. These comments have no chill lmao
Can we talk more about Star Wars instead of spending the whole show reading super chats?
Theory seems what people used to call Edso, easily distracted by shiny objects. Cant focus on anything unless its flashing lights and colors, big sounds and constant action. Only considering of story or character quality is "did cool thing"
Another way to say edso is low IQ.
It makes me wonder if he understands what makes the storytelling of the OT good, considering he apparently thinks Luke's appearance in the Mando Season 2 finale to be in-character. I really wouldn't be surprised if I found out he thinks the Prequels are better than the OT because the action scenes are prettier.
@@nogoodreasonYT I don't think he favors the PT over the OT. But I'd wager he doesn't actually know why he prefers the OT, if he does. That it comes down to some intangible feeling he can't articulate. Or as another commenter said, he would just say "it's dope"
theory is so low energy
I feel like I’m in a desert and mauler is making theory pee on me
Mauler + Ryan podcast with interchanging guests would slap
Hell yeah
I want Ryan and Rags in a debate over something
@@samwallaceart288 Ryan and Wolf. Wolf needs a taste of his own medicine
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 Rags harassing Wolf with some dumb language hypothetical, and just when you think he's gonna shut up Ryan chimes in with his own linguistic hot take on Rags and Wolf is just like "what is happening??"
It feels like Theory is more into the potential of Star Wars than anything else. If they introduce something new, he's going to approach it with a high level of optimism, which is admirable by itself. However, I think this approach leaves him partially blind to things that have the potential to be poor decisions within the SW universe from the get-go. That being said, I love his discussions with Mauler and Ryan. Hail Star Grift.
based comment. agreed
Petition to replace Theory with Sheev Talks so this podcast can have some meaningful discussion?
I liked the part where Darth Vader said: "What'cha bring me?"
Mauler: I didn't have a full grasp on the full political situation in Dune 2 but I knew enough. It was kind of weird.
Theory: I like comic book movie.
Never change, Theory. Never change.
Actually... Please change... The only reason I'm here is for more Mauler content and you are harashing my vibe.
@@Masteroftheweb Harashing?
@@MegaSpideyman Harshing. Phone autocorrected to harassing and I attempted to change it back, but missed an a
@@Masteroftheweb Ah, I see. Thanks.
I thought it might have been an odd portmanteau.
Ryan reading Luthan's speech was a highlight of my day
Yeah, especially in THAT voice!!!
Episode 12 of not talking TCW.
Love it
I like to think it'll happen eventually. It's a little over 2 hours overall, so that's not too bad.
@@MegaSpideyman The Clone Wars is over 50 hours long.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8pI'm talking about the 2003 series. They agreed he'd watch that first.
Maybe that's the star grift
Can we get an F in chat for elmmo Lags, the first superchat, who got completely skipped over by SWT because SWT be like that.
What was it?
@@MegaSpideymanIt was right in the beginning of the stream. It got covered way later in the stream. Hadn't gotten to that point when I made my comment.
The question was to Mauler about Attack on Titan.
@@KaNoMikoProductions Ah, I see. Thanks.
I notice he sometimes pops superchats up on screen and doesn't initially read them.
If Theory ever got to touch a SW script. He would kill the universe instantly..
It physically hurts to listen to his bs rewrites. I cannot believe that he legitimately loves SW and its universe if so many of his ideas involve breaking it
@@nogoodreasonYTHe doesn't love SW and its universe. He loves the SW aesthetic.
yeah. he loves lightsabers and forcepowers.. it´s funny to me how often he talk about bad writing, and then legitimately thinks he can think up better solutions on the spot, with zero effort. That is exactly the mistake Disney made.
Shoutout to the guy who called Theory pathetic!!! See how defensive he gets? The only time Theory engages in conversation is when it’s about himself. He will cut off Ryan and Mauler to read a super chat that positively talks about him. Dude is a Narcissist.
Or butt into their Dune 2 conversation with how he can't wait to see the next Deadpool movie. Props to Ryan and Mauler for more-or-less ignoring him and moving on with what they were talking about.
Timestamp?
When?
@@Brumy-os4tx 2:10:52
TL;DR - Theory, with all sincerity, please wake up.
I originally thought Star Grift was a good idea, and to a point I still do. However, it's becoming more difficult to listen to.
Theory, I know you want to keep Star Wars alive and fun, but these standards you have are not good. I don't even think its healthy for your mental state.
Please, stop accepting every idea with the name Star Wars slapped on it by Disney. You are free to fight to keep Star Wars alive, but this is not the way to do it.
Theory, cant you see the more Disney adds, the more Star Wars loses its identity and the more it becomes sludge? Eventually, you cannot call it Star Wars anymore. All that is left is a husk of a dead name.
Its like having a sandbox at a playground that was great to play in. Then, a new HOA leader arrives with new members/staff. He starts throwing cheap junk toys into the sandbox. After that, the person permits nontrained toddlers to do what they want in the sandbox. Eventually, the sand is replaced with a gross mix of fecal matter, piss, clay, and mud with a little mix of cat litter and sand. The only good thing about it is the faint febreeze smell.
The sandbox is no longer a sandbox. You can no longer make fun castles nor trenches. Even if you try, it looks awful.
There are only three good options; a) clean out the sandbox (which will need to be done frequently), b) remove the HOA leader and staff or c) build or find a better sandbox.
As long as he sells bootleg lightsabers he doesn't care.
Man I wish this podcast would be just Mauler and Ryan as well as other guests they bring on cause I watch this show for them Theory just doesn't do it for me he constantly copes and gives excuses not contributing much to discussions he's boring unfortunately
I wonder how well someone like Alteori, Shady Doorags, Bricky, or Just A Robot would fair on this podcast.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Why those, Addison?
@@MegaSpideyman Because they basically do the same thing that MauLer and other UA-camrs like him.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Ok. I've never heard of Bricky before.
@MegaSpideyman Bricky talks about/discusses/critiques video games as opposed to movies, but they all have channels devoted to discussion and commentary.
Theory's claim of Andor being boring is rich, since he was defending that dreadful Ahsoka show. If we were to cut out all of the padding such as the pointless pauses, staring, walking, lingering shots, and fights that had no consequences, that show wouldn't have enough content to fill even half of a movie. Mauler and Ryan really should start pushing more and showing that Dave Filoni has neither the talent nor passion for the story.
At least the little details in Andor that may appear boring to some actually had meaning. Even the breakfast scenes weren't a waste of time. Even the OT had that kind of stuff!
@@Aikurisu The breakfast scenes are dense with characterization, as are all of the other 'slow' scenes in Andor. It's one of the reasons I love the show, and why I fundamentally disagree with Theory saying it's boring and why I can't understand Ryan claiming that he doesn't find it interesting.
In Ahsoka, so little information is conveyed that you can only barely figure out who people are, and such significant character contradictions are made (i.e. Ahsoka and Ezra not caring that Sabine betrayed THE GALAXY to find Ezra) that what little we get is entirely inconsequential.
The fact is that Theory simply doesn't appreciate good storytelling for what it is. He's an idiot who is perfectly happy for anything to happen as long as he sees the colors and hears the sounds that he likes.
"it expands on the powers"
Isn't that the same line the Not So Great Debate guy tried to use to justify Leia flying through space?
Efap would destroy theory lol
They need to he has a infantile mind when it comes to storytelling
I hate when magic is used in storytelling as a replacement for good writing. Don’t know how make this sene work? ”Magic” Don’t know how get this character out of trouble? “Magic” The ultimate get out of jail card. You guessed it “Magic”.
Which is such a shame because magic written well can add a lot to the story. I feel like magic as a device gets a bad rap simply because the people who typically write it don't bother thinking it through.
"The Bene Jesuit"
I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that 😂
The bean Jewsuit?
Of course Theory thinks Paul is the good guy. They could not have made it more obvious in the movie that his actions lead to GENOCIDE
At its core, Dune is Hamlet, so seeing characters as moral is pointless.
Right now he tries to avoid it.
Whatd they do to make Paul so mad? Haven't seen the movie and know nothing about dune at all
@@deforesterdThe short version is: Paul's family is set up for failure by the Emperor and knocked down by the baddies; his mom being one of the witches who controls everything behind the scenes, goes against the wishes of her order to keep her son alive. They flee to the natives of the planet who are resisting the baddies; these natives have been implanted with a fake Messiah myth for thousands of years. Purpose of this fake Messiah myth is so that the witch order can weaponize it with a man of their choosing to go against the Empire when the time is right; Paul is one of many royal sons raised to be applicable to this myth should the order choose him in his lifetime.
Paul's mom saving him and getting him to the natives goes off-script from what the witch order wanted, and his mom uses their own propaganda against them to make her son this mythical chosen one defended by a fanatical army who've resisted imperial firepower their whole lives.
The actual story here is that Paul has been taught in his mother's witching ways and is gifted in foresight, and being on the planet that produces psychoactive mind-amplifying chemicals makes him one of the most prescient people currently living.
While his mom wants him to be powerful so he can protect himself, and wants to avenge his father and help the native people; the more powerful he gets both socially and psychically, the more he realizes he'll need to overthrow the entire Empire, but doing so well start an unstoppable religious jihad that will spread his gospel whether he likes it or not to every planet in the imperium.
Throughout the story he tries to temper this and make small changes to the future, but he realizes being more powerful doesn't make him able to change the will of this murder-mob he's cultivated; it just makes him more aware of the things he can't change.
Basically it's Lion King meets Game of Thrones: Genocide Ending, but the main character is Dr Manhattan
@@deforesterd The Harkonnens, the albino skinhead people, killed his father and forced he and his mother into exile on pain of death.
Maybe the real show discussion was the grifts we starred along the way.
Excuse the old man, I'm just sad there's so much neglected potential in this one for structured and focused media discussion. I will be fine; I've still EFAP.
don’t apologize, it’s stupid that they’re allowed to critique and discuss but we have to apologize for sharing our critiques or opinions. This show format is shit because Theory doesn’t know how to host or run an actual podcast. Don’t apologize for noticing it.
@@Gojeto346 Ah, it's just common decency. I am not sorry for having this take, I do stand by it. I do also realize it is a preference of mine at the end of the day. They're more than free to do any kind of podcast they like -- it is entirely free of charge for *us*. I can see how something of this laid-back, almost non-comital format can be appealing to the participants. And I can't expect MauLer to be in a constant state of involved analysis, it is quite taxing a job after all, mentally speaking, to do for a living.
@@garwert It seems like Mauler wants to do that, but most of the response are vapid rebuttals by Theory that he is trying to be nice to or from Ryan who mostly agrees with him. This show has shown me just how much of a great mix Mauler, Rags and Wolf were and even more that Mauler has been able to keep mostly the same energy with guests when one or both were missing (or in the case of Wolf just leaving entirely) It's kind of a miracle as it could easily have turn into something like this.
@@theraven268 Sure, I've endless admiration for MauLer and his mental faculties. He can easily pull off an entertaining and insightful podcast on his own, as much as Fringy and Rags are fantastic hosts. He seems to be dragged down by the lack of direction on the part of Theory, and for obvious reasons can't really change the structure of the show to his whims.
Or could be that he genuinely rests on StarGrift, it not being too demanding on the discussion part. You could hear it in his voice on EFAP the last year or so, I've the impression it takes a toll on him.
This podcast is the reason I look towards Monday. But man, please get Theory to actually talk about Star Wars. Also expand your palettes, talk more about Legends, and discuss legends material with Ryan… Go through legends material together so you can discuss and further envelope yourselves in deeper conversations about story. I know MauLer doesn’t read, but damn man. At least conjure up the skill to read. So it’s not so reliant upon chat to actually bring up conversation points. Stop making this podcast twenty minutes of topic and 3 hours of super chats.
You do know that you don't have to listen to all 3 hours? The super chats spark other discussions and the original plan was for a 1 hour podcast, which works with a short discussion and super chats, but turned longer with the introduction of a 3rd person.
@@ItchyknucklesSo what if we don't need to listen to all three hours?
yeah i do love this show, but it could be even better
Indeed, the old Sith Lords by themselves are interesting. They were fallen Jedi that made themselves gods to the natives and made them build elaborate tombs as they constantly wage civil war on each other. Cooler names too.
I like to think of The Force as a more scientific understanding of mana in the Star Wars universe. That said, it seems ridiculous that only the Jedi (and eventually the Sith) would find a way to tap into it when it makes perfect sense that this power has been harnessed in a variety of ways over the centuries. Neither the Jedi nor Sith have a monopoly over it, after all, and it could be argued that even they have a limited grasp of its potential. Granted, their ancestors were far more knowledgeable about its nature, and what has been passed down through their respective orders is a fractured understanding of it at best. (Much like how the Jedi, shortly before the fall of the Republic, lost the knowledge of true Force healing and so on.)
Not that I care about Filoni's 'Night Sisters'. They're his unimaginative way to shoehorn in witchcraft/paganism into SW because his wife is a follower. He never cared about their original lore.
On Dune Part 2, a few points I'd push back on with the discussion here is that the film makes it very clear that the Bene Gesserit are in control, the Reverend Mother basically tells Irulan, "Yeah, I'm overthrowing your father, and yes I created the scenario which leads to his downfall. Your point being?" The Emperor in Dune is more like the Holy Roman Emperor in a sense and not the tyrannical absolutist of Star Wars, which spoiler alert comes later in the series to a whole other level of control, which becomes the point Herbert was trying to make. It's important to keep in mind that this came before Star Wars and inspired it and GOT in a way, though it leans closer to GOT in it's nature than SW more often than not being a more grounded political thriller with Sci Fi trappings.
Another thing to note and I find strange is MauLer's connection to Rabban (maybe because it's Batista?) The character isn't really a character in the book or the movie, just a brutal enforcer for the Baron who get's whacked offscreen to make way for Feyd, they expanded and gave the character more screentime in the movie maybe to his detriment, I would have killed him when he was fleeing in the ornithopter even more bluntly than his actual death scene. The Harkonnen's won, they beat Atreides, that is also made very clear in the film. The Baron already played the long game and sort of sit's back and readies another against the Emperor, which is why Paul's realization that he is a Harkonnen so important, he abandons his Atreides mentality and embraces Muad'dib fully to use it as a Harkonnen would. He blindsides the other players and sweeps the board before they have their pieces set, this movie was the wrap up, the falling action in a sense. It's odd, but I view it more like the LOTR extended films, it needs to be watched back to back with the first and likely edited together so there are no credits between them for the complete experience.
Connecting with Paul is difficult, because on some level it's supposed to be, sort of like Napoleon he is treated as a historical figure. He is remarkably human despite his god like power, which in turn makes him all the more tragic and terrifying because you are aware of it but most other's are not and the consequences are beyond dire though perhaps ultimately necessary in the grander narrative of the series. That's why I liked Chani's changes in the movie, and I know I'm in the minority on this point, but it sold the relationship that he was so vulnerable and open with her that she knew what he was and what he was afraid of becoming and was protective of him and trying to save him from himself only to fail.
I agree, the Bene Gesserit are always in control. That’s why they have never actually “taken” any side during the war, it is all their doing to have the kwisatz haderach for control and bend the world to their will in an instant, rather than spending years in planning and execution. Also, yes the reveal of Paul’s heritage made it clearer that using the muad'dib persona will be their only way of survival, because that’s how the Harkonen’s have survived. However, to be honest I have seen the channel to knit pick on things which they don’t like and be generous to films which they do.
Quite well put sir. i concur with many statements. Antihero and very dark turn of Paul was holly s***t they really went all jihad onto them. It was quite fast turn but after high DMT resurrection i can see that turn to be fully justified. Essentially i really cant see Paul as different from Harkoneens IMO. Although i can see dialogue could be expanded much more. But that is not Denis style and he fully embraced that. I m sucker for visual "show dont tell" and music background mood setting shots. Denis really can elevate otherwise quite reckless script into something too behold. Visual and music and folly design was 10/10. Plot was solid 6/10. Fair final assessment for movie is EZ 8/10.
I have a lot of issues with this movie, but Chani being a voice of reason who sees the situation for the tragedy it is is a good change.
My issue with the movie is they showed basically none of the cultures involved; we got all of the events but because we don't get the people, it's just events.
How is this show still going? Love you malu but Theory has no condition opportunity and don't listen to what you or Ryan says.
I much prefer the Legends version of the Witches of Dathomir. Their magic just being the force, just seen from a different religious point of view was much better.
The Irony of Star Grift isn’t that they’re not actually grifters, it’s that Theory is ACTUALLY a grifter while he relies on Maulers an Ryan’s goodwill with people to try and sell more of his Chinese drop shipped bullshit. Oh wait I forgot how “cool” it all is. That makes it right!!
I don't know about other stuff but didn't Mauler say he bought a Lightsaber from him and it was great? And i heard other people say the Lightsabers were good. This comment feels like just shitting on Theory because you don't like him.
Theory feels like a 3rd wheel and doesn't really seem to know what to talk about anymore but saying he is grifting is a bit much. Like Ryan joined after a couple of episodes and Mauler has his own podcast when they don't want to come anymore they can just stop.
I don't think he's a "grifter," because that implies insincerity. I think he's sincere, for better or for worse.
Edit: he is absolutely only there to shill, though
@@Admiral-General_Aladeen theory is absolutely just grifting. Adds nothing to the discussion, advertises his upcoming fan fiction, advertises his lightsabers, tries to come up with merch ideas, is mostly here to read super chats (again - money), etc etc.
doesn’t engage in the discussion, yawns like he doesn’t really wanna do this, idk I have nothing personal against the dude, but the podcast speaks for itself especially when compared to MauLer and Ryan’s input
This just isn’t a good podcast… Also Theory seems to be somewhat mentally challenged keeping up with his peers
Me: clicks to hear Dune reactions.
This video: 3 hours of super chats, and then Mauler doesnt want to talk about it very much...
Also- SWT sounds like he hasn't even seen it with those takes on the ending (and then he jumps on Deadpool 3, oof)...
I think Theory is a good guy. A really good guy. But I am sorry, he’s dumb as rocks lol. Ryan is probably one of the funniest UA-camrs out there though. I just love the way he talks. The words he uses crack me up.
My take on Villeneuve’s Dune is that, as a big fan of the book (and the board game) is that I do really like his Dune movies but they’re not a good replacement at all for the book. It’s very much a “Dune lite”, the broad strokes are there but the essence has been heavily muted. I expect to rewatch and enjoy these films for a long time but there’s still a lot that could have been done better, and I’m a bit disappointed that I don’t think it will be done better - this is probably going to be considered the “definitive” adaptation for the foreseeable future. People are going to be scared to try again, much like how people will be scared to try Lord of the Rings again after Jackson’s trilogy, but Villeneuve’s Dune is not nearly as strong as Jackson’s LotR (to be fair, much as I adore Dune I’m not sure I’d put it at the level of Tolkien’s LotR either).
I wish Mauler and Ryan would drop Theory and just do this by themselves, they do 99% of the work while Theory just shills for likes and super chats while he advertises his bullshit and gives 0 insight or reaction to any of the super chats people spend money on.
I know dude, he starts reading supers like 10 minutes into a 3 hour stream. Constantly pushing his merch while barely adding anything to the star wars conversation despite being a literal sw channel. Basically what you said. Im here for mauler and ryan, notice how much better the conversation gets when theory steps out? His greed is overshadowing his passion and it shows
@@mattchooblinkbro don’t forget to smash that like button and hit subscribe, also UA-cam takes abunch of their revenue so please just be sure to mail cash directly to Theory!!! He is a starving artist who is leeching off of others creativity, he needs all the help he can get!!
Yeah exactly
@@mattchooblink I noticed just how much more time and effort superchats got when Theory left. I wish he gave even close to that.
But how else will you get such insightful comments like "I liked it", or "It was dope"?
Theory saying he just wants lightsabers and blasters to go pew pew actually pissed me off, Andor is the best star wars content made after EP 6 and he finds it "boring"... idk some people just don't pay attention to characters so that's what happens, no shiny lights no thumbs up from them
His line of thinking is shared with a lot of people and is the reason why Star Wars and marvel is the way it is now. He has zero self reflection and it’s honestly annoying that Mauler and Ryan won’t call it out.
him talking about the addition of magic despite already having the force in the SW universe also pisses me off lmao, I get why mauler and Ryan don't say much, they want to try going really slow on him but man it gets upsetting sometimes@@Gojeto346
This entire podcast feels like Mualer (and maybe Ryan, I know a lot less of him) walking on eggshells and Theory says he doesn't want that, but I feel like he doesn't really understand what he's asking for.
Everything I've seen Theory state he desires is the shit Mauler typically lambasts.
Everything Theory says is hollow; he plugs his channel, plugs his store and merch, doesn't pay much attention to the super-chats, and doesn't actually discuss anything with his co-hosts. An empty shill is what I see, and I don't think I'm alone in that.
But there was pew pew in Andor, i his issue that there wasn't enough then? And about the lightsaber, did he not like Mandalorian until there was a lightsaber?I feel like Theory was on the Mandalorian wagon from the start despite the lack of lightsabers in the start but i may be wrong I haven't watched Mandotardian but from what i understand there wasn't a lightsaber in most of the first season which is the one most people liked.
I really just cannot get people who get bored in dialogue scenes (like Theory talking about the cereal scenes). Like how do you watch any well written slow drama that exists if that character stuff doesn’t excite you? You’d have a point if literally nothing was being said but ALOT is said in those scenes. Two characters sitting down can excite me just as much if not more than a blaster fight. Just kinda speaks to what your priorities are for the stories you like
He gets bored because he doesn’t get the intention / point of any scene that isn’t PEW PEW DIALOGUE PEW PEW
Heck, even the OT had cereal scene moments. All ironically involving Theory's favourite character, Luke. Like say when he's having a meal with his family while discussing what's up with R2 before Owen tells the boy to get the droid's memory wiped. Or say those times at Dagobah when Luke is eating something, whether at Yoda's or having rations in the swamp.
I've gotten so frustrated with Theory and others praising Filoni so much after watching Ahsoka and these podcasts I'm actually going to start watching The Clone Wars. Based on Theory's taste and explanation's for his rating system, I have a feeling I'm going to dislike it, but I'm going to go into it as unbiased as possible. I'll see you all next Grift. Wish me luck.
Let us know how it goes.
It's fine, but I'd recommend checking out anything related to The Clone Wars Multimedia Project, prior to Filoni's involvement with Star Wars. It was better without him.
@@Aikurisu Thanks for the info! I actually loved the Tartakovsky animation when it first came out. I remember Bounty Hunter fondly and the Clone Wars game was certainly an interesting game for its time. I was so young I really wasn't aware that these projects were all made in a wave. Never checked out Shatterpoint but I'll be sure to give it a look.
@@KaNoMikoProductions Thanks! I'm intrigued because I really do want to understand Filoni but from what I've seen in live action I just don't get the defense for him. I will say, I've been burning through plenty of interviews and he does tend to "say the right thing" even if his writing doesn't reflect that. It's a complicated issue for sure with minefields everywhere. I'm taking the approach of "every hill in Star Wars has at least one fan willing to die on it." so I'd prefer to give them the respect of attempting to take that hill while being as researched and prepared as possible.
Originally nightsisters just used sorcery just like the sith tho? It's just the dark side force applied weird
1:31:07
So the few people who watched it liked it…
Just because the percentage is high does not mean that (a) a lot of people watched it, (b) that the Star Wars fanbase all watched and enjoyed it, or (c) that it was a well-written show. From what I remember, Ahsoka had fewer numbers than Andor, and very few people watched Andor as it came out. So a tiny portion of fans watched it and drooled over it; yippee, Star Wars is saved…
This is one of the reasons I love mauler. He’s the only one saying what I’m thinking about dune 2. The more I think about how much they wasted the characters the less I like it. Raban and the baron and the emperor were all wasted potential. Gurney was just thrown in like an afterthought. They brush past way too many important things like the atomics so they can have ANOTHER scene of Paul having vague visions.
Eh, the book did less with most of these characters.
Rabban was never a character even in the first film, even less in the book, I'm not sure what else they could have done other than kill him sooner. The Baron already won against the Atreides, he accomplished his lifelong goal and is moving on to a grander stage by using the Emperor's weakness against him and starting a civil war, he is disconnected from Arrakis in favor of planning his new scheme, we got enough to understand that in his talk with Feyd in the bathtub. He is reactive more than active in this section of the story because he is dealing with unknowns and later an enemy that can predict and counter his every move. The atomics were only ever a plot device and that's all they could be, they offered an explanation for why the Great Houses didn't just sweep down and take on Paul in his fledgling ascension because he threatened to essentially start a galactic dark age if they did. The visions are vital to the story, everything Paul does after the water of life is in the context of the visions of the future.
Yeah the movie gets high praise now but give it a year and noone will have anything to say about any of the characters. 4/10
@@slajmern3027 That's not really true. Paul and his Arc will likely be talked about. Movie was a 5 or 6 by any reasonable metric.
@@mycaleb8 Very little of the action made much sense. Cause and effect gets borked with how new stuff is constantly introduced with no setup like the nukes. Paul and mom gets shat on for development they don't talk with eachother and those 2 were the only good established characters coming from the first one. Antagonists are dull and one dimensional. There is not enough in this movie to warrant a 6. Squid Game got a 5 and that at least had characters
Anyone know what adam and sitch debate the superchat is referencing? I wanna watch it
No
I love the dynamic that you three have. You’re all very different and how you approach talking about Star Wars and movies, but it works so well.
That’s probably why I like it so much, also, you guys are all pretty chill as well.
Theory seems somewhat simple minded but doesn't seem to be a bad guy. Maybe his interactions with Mauler and Ryan will help him grow a bit intellectually. ;)
We are waiting since December
I'd like to take a moment to thank the comment section... between all the comments and replies I'm sifting throuh, you are giving me the discussion I hope for in the podcast.
Sheesh. Theory's audience loves these, but it's definitely soured here.
These are absolutely a highlight of my mondays. Hope the response doesn't discourage Mauler from doing them
I don't think his audience is going to make him not hang out with people he is friends with.
They try though@@kylefrank638
@@kylefrank638 I unno.... If the money stops coming in some people on the panel might be inclined to stop shop.
@@Masteroftheweb Most of the money is on SWT channel. Mauler and Ryan uploads these to their channels for views but most the views are on SWT. But Mauler still makes money on EFAP and Ryan on his own channels and G&G. I think they just wanna show him his blind optimism in SW is misplaced here and to his fanbase.
Yeah, there's a lot of hate for Theory here but I hope that doesn't cause tensions between the three. This has been the best show on UA-cam in years, imo, regardless of Theory's bad takes or Mauler's absolute ignorance of anything Star Wars beyond the trilogy films. And as for Ryan... honestly, he's the main reason I tune in. Love his insight the most.
2:03:28 Theory caught me off guard then. that was hilarious
I think the fact that the characters are sort of one dimesional makes the casting stick out because you see all the famous actors instead of the characters, I think this movie would have worked better with only a few stars and more lesser known actors. Chis Walken stuck out like a sore thumb, I kept hearing him say "I need more cowbell"
Well yeah his character was Paul and chani not so much
One of Villeneuve's problems is his casting. He always picks A-listers coming off of recent hits, which makes their bargaining position strong so they can ask for $20 million or more per actor. He then directs them into delivering dreary, minimalist characters with little subtext to their dialog, so whatever skill and charisma they have as actors doesn't show up on screen. I don't like Zendaya generally, but she was playing the role as directed.
Ask yourself this diagnostic question, "Could this role be played by Rich Evans?" Because people like Rich Evans can do the job Villeneuve wants, but at less than $1 million.
@@dragonknightleader1 I dunno. A lot of the actors he used in this worked with him on other projects and the one's that haven't are almost always rock solid or great in other stuff they're in.
@@dragonknightleader1 I think its a mixture of casting, direction and even writing to a degree. The actors are great actors giving fine performances but their characters arent fleshed out enough for me to be able to see them as the character, it just doesnt exist in the story. This is something you have to work around some way, you can cast lesser knowns, you can give more characterization or you can try to direct the performances in a different way. Its all a balancing act and I think the big names end up hurting more than helping.
@@archstanton9073 No. Bautista and Brolin are returning actors. Most of the cast have not worked for him before. It still doesn't address my main point, he gets good actors and then directs them to be bland.
1:13:44 i do remember mauler saying he was favorable on TFA until he saw the E;R video which sparked his analysis and criticism. I think mauler arrives to same conclusion eventually but without the internet mauler would be favorable on TFA for a bit longer.
Actually how the hell did I not see ANYTHING until theory mentioned it about Akira Toriyama passing away? I am actually so upset to hear about this. Dragon Ball Z despite its many shortcomings, will always be a favorite of mine. The thing Akira got right was character. While I am not much of a Manga person, usually just stick to anime's, I have seen enough of Akria manga work through various videos and me just taking a look at them myself to know how talented this man at drawing Manga panels. His legacy has been immense on the Manga/Anime world. He created the template that literally every shonen story running today can be traced back to. Even people who have never watched Dragonball or DBZ or even anime in general know what a Super Saiyan is. Rest In Peace Akira Toriyama, wish we actually had some dragonballs to wish ya back ;( Wish his loved ones he has sadly been forced to leave behind are healthy and live long happy lives.
Always thought nightsister Magic was supposed to be another facet of darkside force use. Like old republic sith alchemy. Granted in the show its OP. In the EU I guess it was more toned down and made more sense but the books which have nightsisters are among the ones I coincidentally haven't read
That's because the night sister magic in TCW/Ahsoka is simply Filoni writing in witchcraft/paganism into the galaxy because his wife is a follower of that stuff.
@@Aikurisu preaching to the choir, boss
Does Theory's fanbase...accept this? This is arguably just robbing your audience. Still cant believe he snapped over someone drawing art of this trash fire. We love your fanart Beowin!(spelling!?)
Didn't watch this full stream... what is this comment referencing?
@@socialjihad5724 Referencing that these podcasts are done on SWT channel and he discusses a topic for about 20 min while barely speaking and have Ryan and Mauler pretty much have a discussion/debate. Then for the next 2 and a half hours SWT reads super chats while plugging his merch.
@@Unicornpirate Was more curious about "snapped over someone drawing art"
@@socialjihad5724 Lol my bad. I didn't read the full comment. I just read up to his fanbase accepting this and how he is robbing the audience because of his complete lack of input into the conversation and how he just reads super chats for 3 hours.
@socialjihad5724 still not sure about spelling but 1 or 2 episodes ago, Beowin, a regular fan artist of EFAP, drew up some fanart of Star Grift.
He's got a...unique drawing style so I don't wholly fault Theory for snapping at it but I think it's rude when someone is enough of a fan of your work to draw it and you're not at least appreciative. Don't denigrate your fans.
Keep the magic in the "What if Anakin had an apprentice storyline". In the main universe, ahsoka died if she ever existed, and no one has heard of magic that is separate from the force.
I recently found a channel called The Bread Circus that did a 12hr retrospective on The Phantom Menace, really cool video, a couple proposed changes but mostly looking at the deep lore to see how much the movie does or does not stick to the canon.
I found that fairly recently as well, its an excellent video
Thanks for the recommendation massives, I'm gonna check it out
Finally, the MauLer fans have a multi-hour video to satiate their hunger
Thanks for the recommendation, just started watching. Looks very interesting!
that video drags on into unnecessary stuffs so often
but it's a compilation of twelve videos so it's kinda understandable
2:23:10 To be fair Mauler, you guys and Little Platoon spent two-hours and fifteen minutes arguing over whether or not an effect of some sand moving in Rings of Power was magic or not. That's the one that gives me PTSD.
I remember that one!! 🤣
Let me guess, Theory found Dune 2 to be boring and pretentious?
His Dune 2 take is that he's excited for Deadpool and Wolverine.
@@archstanton9073 ☹️
1:42:00 Theory must have been bored out of his mind during Degoba, the repair of the ‘falcon in the asteroid belt, and the beginning of Bespin in The Empire Strikes Back.
Considering the guy hardly ever talks about Empire it wouldn't surprise me
I love the show and I do get exited for each episode, but a little more structure would be nice. Great dynamic between the 3 of you otherwise
All due respect, highly disagree with theory on having both the force and nightsister magic being "cool" when the force in itself is its own fleshed out magic system.
One piece has a great standalone magic system with devil fruits, where you eat one and gain a completely different ability but you lose the ability to swim in a world 90% covered by water. If it added in say a form of magic that doesn't get explained I'd be very turned off and feel there's no reason to have something new in this world
In Legends EU the dathomir witches, magic, etc etc across the galaxy and from various groups are all derivatives of the force.. and mean, common sense would dictate as well since the force is your power system in lore..