This is a reupload, we've decided to split the movies into three because any other strategy cannot be monetised. I have no idea why. UA-cam is not a fun boss to have. In any case, chat is now implemented from the initial premiere, though with a couple of mistakes here and there, in all three films. Two Towers and Return of the King will follow week by week, with "Movies Minis" to follow that weekly - this will not be in lieu of any other uploads and there's a link at the top of the description for the original upload in case you would like to check out the discussion or to play them as a three - Though that version cannot be monetised. Thanks for being patient with this, just trying to make it all work heh.
Funny thing is, I had only gotten done watching you cover fellowship when it first was uploaded and just now was looking for the video to listen to the rest. As the longman himself, it must hurt to break apart any video no matter the reason lmao.
oh no, an opportunity to watch lord of the rings as a group. whatever shall we do!? Someone literally just brought me 4 oreos and i have a diet pepsi... well... these problems solve themselves.
@@thebazhammer2610supposedly he was feeling sick a few days ago, he may still be recovering :( ... would be nice if we got a surprise efap or something tho this is perfectly nice. maybe a surprise movie with the drinker again... like robocop remake. really tear it apart.
Something that I noticed while watching and hearing mauler mention Boromir's role as a protector, is that in the final battle Boromir doesn't have his SHIELD. A tool only used for protecting. He left his shield behind (that's how Aragorn noticed that Boromir is missing) to go after Frodo. Symbolically abandoning his role as a protector to chase after the ring. In the final battle he only uses his sword(still to protect the halflings) but if he still had his shield, he might've been able to survive Lurtz's arrows(maybe). This is just another tragic and excellent twist and detail for Boromir's character. God I love these movies!
To add to this, he grabs Scotty Pippin and puts them behind himself, literally using his body to shield them. The symbolism is amazing, the deeper you dig the more there is.
I think the only reason I would say that the shield in this case wouldn't have saved him is because each time he was shot, he was either not aware (the first shot) or was already focused on a closer threat in his defense of mary and took. I would still say that while he had only a role in the first movie (barring flashbacks) he still has one of the greatest redemption arcs I can think of, I still tear up when I see it, which boggles my mind since I rarely even tear up at funerals. Idk man something about it just resonates.
This also shuts down the "boromir never uses his shield" argument cuz he clearly uses it in moria and you clearly see he doesn't have it when the battle of Amon hen starts
I feel like not enough people talk about Boromir's line, "Give them a moment for pity's sake," in the wake of Gandalf's death as proof for him not being a villain.
@@fls128 One of the cast members for Rings of Power said in an interview when discussing some nonsense that Boromir was "evil". They haven't got a clue 😂
Here I was thinking that the Venn diagram for "LoTR fans", "EFAP fans", and "women" would look like a normal 2-circle Venn diagram and a solitary circle on a completely different page.
"We've had Fellowship of the Rings, yes. What about second Fellowship?" - Don't think he knows about second Fellowship Pippin. "What about movie minis? Two Towers, Afternoon Two Towers, Second Return of the King? _Third_ Return of the King! He knows about them, doesn't he?
The scene of Frodo putting his hand on Bilbo’s shoulder after the jump scare is so good. It embodies forgiveness and empathy. It’s more powerful than any words that Frodo could have said to Bilbo in that moment.
it’s the start of Frodo beginning to really understand the effects of the Ring over time. It sets up his relationship with Gollum in the Two Towers where he has a hard time accepting that the little weirdo is beyond help, because that means that he and Bilbo might also be beyond help…
Man, the scene with the ring in the snow... Everytime I see how prepared Aragorn was to use his sword againts Boromir I got the chills. You can see how he removes his hand from the sword once Boromir returns the ring to Frodo. Such an amazing scene.
The fact that there are two of them and they are basically both trying to convince the mountain to do what they want is the ultimate neighbors fighting over a fence situation.
Have I already watch the entire EFAP coverage of the trilogy? Yes. Am I going to happily watch the entire trilogy again broken into three parts? You best believe it. Hell, I might even go back and watch the original trilogy coverages just to be a complete mad man and take in all the LOTR content I can. Appreciate all the work you do to keep us entertained lads. Can’t imagine how much work actually goes into making these and fingers crossed they can stay monetised for you.
I want to thank the entire EFAP crew and guests for everything you do. I have fallen out of contact with all of my friends, but I get to vicariously enjoy what I would with friends through you. Thanks, lads.
I love The Lord of the Rings. I love everything about it: books, movies, games, the community that formed around it... I love it for how much it means and represents, for what it can teach us and for how impactful it has been. It changed the world around us and the hearts of many people. I love it for what it is and I'll never stop loving it.
Rings of Power and Lord of Ring: Gollum are not necessarily included in that love... But at least they made me laugh, even if it was a bit painful to laugh at times.
I prefer The Lord of Ring tbh it is newer and therefore betterer than Geore RR Martin's movies? But it is good you like a thing. A Ring Thing. Ringa a ding ding.
"Hard R." We've missed you too, Wolf! Weta Digital worked wonders with these films, and that's due to Jackson and the team carefully considering how to tackle film production. There's no replacement for thoughtful and passionate film production. There's no amount of visual effects that could cover the flaws of a sloppy production. This trilogy is a shining example of how filmmakers should utilize visual effects to enhance their production whilst maintaining the physicality of live action. Just because you can do something with digital effects it does not mean you should. Thank you Massives, for giving us yet another reason to appreciate the sheer amount of love and care put into these timeless classics. With all that being said though, your coverage is still not long enough. ❤
If I remember correctly about Tom Bombadil, he had 100% power and control over his little area of the forest, but outside of that, he didn’t. It was a safe haven for the Fellowship, but a place they could not stay.
I had the same take away of Tom's character. Not even Sauron could touch him within his domain but Tom would not desire ever to leave the old Forest or involve himself in the dealings Middle Earth beyond it.
@@DriveKnightJaden175 So you going to qualify those 'worst takes' or are you just going to sit there and pretend that your word alone is enough evidence for this?
In the books, Merry and Pippin join with Frodo and Sam from the start. They know whats going on and leave with him. While i love that, i also love how they, not knowing at all whats going on, help Frodo and Sam without a thought. What loyalty.
when these movies came out, they dwarfed everything else around them. Looking back from 20 years later, everything now is microscopic compared to the towering monoliths of LOTR
It was a good time where the CGI was good enough and before this inclusivity and pronoun stuff happened. Which makes it even better. I'm glad I was a grown man when these films came out and I pity the kids these days who never got to see films like this at that time.
Man that ending makes me tear up without fail. Even you guys talking during it cant detract from the impact these scenes have. Which is just testament to what a masterpiece these movies are
I just love Aragorn and Boromir, the interactions between them are so good. And I've always thought the way Aragorn looks at him is from a place pity, not of hate or disdain. Distrust, yes but the pity in Aragorn's eyes when those two interact always gets me. So damn good!
The thing is, when this movie aired, we lived in this strange world where two people could have a difference of opinion without either being accused of being a "hater". The term didn't exist. I watched it with a few friends and one of my best friends was a book purist and said they ruined it by making changes, whereas I thought for the most part the changes were good or necessary as film and books are different mediums. I'd read the books maybe 20 times since 1977 when I first read it, so it wasn't that I didn't understand his point. After I got the Extended Edition on DVD we watched through a few times and argued every time, and it didn't make us enemies in the slightest.
Actually, the sequence with Tom Bombadil plays a very important part- It lets us, the reader, know that the One Ring has LIMITS, it is not 'All Powerful', there are other forces and powers to which it is helpless to affect. As we are pounded more & more later on in the story about how overwhelming the Ring is, that knowledge is a bit of comfort. Tolkien has other brief reminders like that- The Cock Crowing before Rohan arrives, the Phial of Galadriel reminding us of the Stars above Middle-Earth, these all help to mitigate the despair & darkness one might feel.
I think Jackson made the right choice. He wanted to show the inherent danger of the ring and having Bombabil around would have somewhat undermined that.
One of the things I miss from the old movies was the use of sounds, color and voice of different factions. Like you guys said about Rohan, the Shire, Gondor, Mordor, they're all different and the sounds are different with them. The Shire had soft warm music, soft and warm tones, soft and warm characters. Rohan had dull green and red colors that became warmer by the third movie. Isengard was dark, cold and metallic. The consistency between the different senses actually feels good to experience. When we see the Marvels for example, we have 3 different personalities with colors that don't match what they do or who they are and the music separates itself from what's going on. In comparison of another Marvel movie, Ironman one had sharp colors and tones when it needed it, warm/cold colors when it was needed, and rock music became more active every time Tony Stark accomplished something. Even if we're not talking about writing, it's really nice to experience a movie through other ways visually or audibly
Yeah Peter Jackson knocked it out of the park with this endeavor. The fact that he filmed all three films in one go and had the right crew and actors and production companies backing his vision is amazing and why people still love it to this day. Epic trilogy.
Believe it or not, this perfect timing. I just watched the extended cut to all three movies with my Dad both for the first time. He saw all the movies opening night and he got to tell me what was and wasn't different
The 🍉 scene, after watching the extended, turns from a simple riddle moment to something else. Gandalf is stalling intentionally here because if he stalls long enough, they will reconsider and avoid Moria afterall. Frodo is a Baggins though. Like Bilbo, he's too good at riddles, so Gandalf had to give in and open the doorway.
At 00:53:30 I believe that Nazgûl was sneaking around Aragorn as he was fighting his comrades to grab the ring. Only to stop when the only other Nazgûl flees instead of fighting.
The funny thing about Tom Bombadil is that Tolkien just refused to explain what he was. Dozens of people sent Tolkien letters asking him to explain Tom, and he simply refused to do so. And given the extreme level of detail that he goes into for everything else, I think it’s pretty obvious that Tom was just meant to be what he is. An oddity. Unexplainable. A hint that even with everything Tolkien tells us, this world still has so much we’ll never know.
Go Team Boromir. Very few talk about what a masterful performance this was from Sean Bean. He really brings everything to the table here, displaying pride, strength, dignity, but also tenderness, vulnerability, self doubt and shame. All with subtlety, never over the top. He also did that with Ned Stark, and even then, even after reading the books, watching him die was literally painful. Such a great actor.
21:36 absolutely love the detail that Gandalf refuses to touch the ring, even to pick it up and move it. Even though he doesn’t 100% know it’s the 1 ring he is still very respectful of it and careful to not be corrupted
This is the best EFAP video. I enjoy the critique episodes, but hearing you all gush over something I enjoy is wonderful. More appreciation of masterpieces, please!
Finally saw these in theaters for the anniversary, as brilliant as ever. Thought the integration of chat for the re-upload was a neat detail. Thanks for all the work getting these out lads! 😊
"It's like _calm down, film - I can only coom so many times in a row."_ I've always found it hilarious how Mauler will deal with films as if he's dealing with a person. he'll talk to the film sometimes when he's got an issue with it, good or bad. that's a funny.
The Nazgul... very terrifying. Tolkien only ever gave an identity to two of them: The Witch-King of Angmar, and Khamul the Easterling. Very little explored about what they were beyond that they were once great kings of Men, but I think that enhances their horror effect. It's like "Whatever they were before, that doesn't matter. All that's left of them is these evil shades, thralls of Sauron... no trace of their past or former identities, they don't even have their own bodies or wills. This is what succumbing to darkness and evil does to us. This is why we have to get Frodo to Rivendell as fast as possible. This is why the only thing we can do with the One Ring is destroy it." It's really brilliant.
I was 12, 1977, when I watched Star Wars IV. I remember I was absolutely blown away. I was 36 when I watched The Fellowship, and I had the same feeling as when I was 12 and watched Star Wars IV.
My first major purchase in life was dropping $3000 on a 50" hdtv & 5.1 dolby surround sound just to try to recreate the Balrog experience at home. One of the most memorable cinematic moments of my life. They had someone who wrote the code for CG fire, during the making of Fellowship, in Maya (program ). (I know this because I was training to be a computer animator in post secondary using Maya at the time). Their technical achievements aren't given enough praise or credit. #GreatestTrilogyEver
I love the whole "There is hope left" both from Gandalf talking to Elrond and Bormoir talking to Aragorn.....Aragorn's name when he lived in Rivendell is Estel.....the elven word for Hope
If there is one moment I will give the Hobbit movies its the scene with Galadriel and Gandalf talking, it actually manages to be a good, poignant moment
I love you guys but you should have mentioned my favorite scene in lotr. when the room goes dark ,gets smaller and Gandalf gets huge in the span of 3 seconds, demonstrating the unimaginable power held by Gandalf and the overwhelming care he has for bilbo . The first time I saw that, it floored me, and it still does today. What a perfect scene.
I remember I really didn't want to see this when it came out. I was in middle school and I had no idea what Lord of the Rings was and had no interest in some fantasy with elves and fairies. But my mom dragged me to it and it turned out to be the greatest film I ever saw.
possibly the only writing imperfection in this movie is Elrond saying "from whence it came". whence already means "from where", so you don't say "from whence". you just say "whence it came".
On new fantasy looking awful, there is a description in God Emperor of Dune on how Leto II homogenized, made everything sapped of soul, pale facsimiles, everyone and everything is depressed, and no dreams can be realized. That is what modern fantasy looks like
I have watched The Trilogy more times than I can remember at this point, but the Fellowship of the Ring will always be my favourite movie of the three. I really enjoy the slow start and introduction to the world as well as the characters, despite it's comparatively smaller scale it's just as epic as the two other movies. Not to mention Boromir, who's my personal favorite character of the trilogy and potentially one of the greatest fictional characters, not only when it comes to the Lord of the Rings but in general. Despite a shorter screen time, compared to other main characters, he brings so much nuance and depth that it's a pleasure to watch his journey every single time, even if I know it by heart.
It’s so weird to remember when these came out. I was like, they were great, sure, but the sweet summer child that I was expected that I would see more movies in the future as good or maybe even better. Little did I know that no, this was it. This is actually the best (3) movie(s) that will ever be made, or at least very likely so, given the current state of affairs.
If Boromir didn’t try to take the ring from Frodo, the Uruks probably would have caught him. He basically left early. So, Boromir saved everyone because he set Frodo on his path.
I also don’t think the ring itself gets the credit it deserves.. it’s a piece of Sauron and I think it has had a hand in the years since.. it needed someone to bring it to Mordor. Someone strong enough. It knew Frodo had the strength to get there but sensed a weakness. We all know it was Gollums greed that destroyed it. Amazing story that really makes you think at the end of the day.
Greed is a path to success but at what cost. Only the servant of the enemy can know… greed among all other evils is the most common, amidst the others it has a tendency to serve the good before the end…. Technology and wealth, power and aggression, more is evil but more is necessary for survival. Tolkien a grade A 4th dimensional philosopher
All its machinations and manipulations undone by a Hobbit that had to believe in the possibility of Redemption, allowing for Gollum to intervene at the critical moment. There's something to think about there.
I am unashamedly basking in both the artistry of the trilogy and the unique sharp wit of our fucking panel. This trilogy makes me hope for humankind, honestly. This trilogy deserves all the words.
Those tree reviews of LOTR films alongside with praise of Jurassic Park and Arcane maybe amongst the best episodes of EFAP - certainly they are my personal favorite. It's funny to see EFAP crew making fun of bad media but it's heartwarming to see them analyzing something good - it bring you to the times when western studios were capable of producing great films that could stand test of times. Not so much those days... then it's even more important to remember those good movies. So, thank you for those LOTR reviews even if I found some of your opinion about Tolkien's book to be controversial.
I get off work 30 minutes before the stream starts. Thankfully the metal shop I work at is only 2.5 minutes away from my house. I missed the OG release, so I'm fine with you having to re-release it. I like to be included in things.
I remember sitting in the theater at the end of this movie being really mad because there were so many things left unresolved 😅 but once I found out there were 2 more coming it made me feel a little better lol
24:50 That shot is absolutely stunning. I LOVE the way Minis Tirith is illuminated by those sunbeams as if it’s some kind of divine light serving as a beacon of hope for the world, sitting on a fertile plain surrounded by mountains. But then in the background Mordor looks like Hell itself, with it’s black skies and the fiery eruption telling us that there’s something REALLY BAD happening over there, and the spreading dark clouds foreshadowing that it’s evil is growing stronger and beginning to spread.
This is a reupload, we've decided to split the movies into three because any other strategy cannot be monetised. I have no idea why. UA-cam is not a fun boss to have. In any case, chat is now implemented from the initial premiere, though with a couple of mistakes here and there, in all three films.
Two Towers and Return of the King will follow week by week, with "Movies Minis" to follow that weekly - this will not be in lieu of any other uploads and there's a link at the top of the description for the original upload in case you would like to check out the discussion or to play them as a three - Though that version cannot be monetised. Thanks for being patient with this, just trying to make it all work heh.
Funny thing is, I had only gotten done watching you cover fellowship when it first was uploaded and just now was looking for the video to listen to the rest. As the longman himself, it must hurt to break apart any video no matter the reason lmao.
Sure thing boss!
Will this be in place of a regular efap for today mewbs?
oh no, an opportunity to watch lord of the rings as a group. whatever shall we do!?
Someone literally just brought me 4 oreos and i have a diet pepsi... well... these problems solve themselves.
@@thebazhammer2610supposedly he was feeling sick a few days ago, he may still be recovering :( ... would be nice if we got a surprise efap or something tho this is perfectly nice. maybe a surprise movie with the drinker again... like robocop remake. really tear it apart.
If you think for a second i'm going to watch the entire EFAP LOTR Trilogy again, then you are right.
Was about to write this.
And I'll watch em individually too! That'll teach em.
🤣
My God, my God.
I hate how true this is. 😂
Something that I noticed while watching and hearing mauler mention Boromir's role as a protector, is that in the final battle Boromir doesn't have his SHIELD. A tool only used for protecting. He left his shield behind (that's how Aragorn noticed that Boromir is missing) to go after Frodo. Symbolically abandoning his role as a protector to chase after the ring. In the final battle he only uses his sword(still to protect the halflings) but if he still had his shield, he might've been able to survive Lurtz's arrows(maybe). This is just another tragic and excellent twist and detail for Boromir's character. God I love these movies!
To add to this, he grabs Scotty Pippin and puts them behind himself, literally using his body to shield them. The symbolism is amazing, the deeper you dig the more there is.
That's a very interesting observation, and a great use of semiotics
I think the only reason I would say that the shield in this case wouldn't have saved him is because each time he was shot, he was either not aware (the first shot) or was already focused on a closer threat in his defense of mary and took. I would still say that while he had only a role in the first movie (barring flashbacks) he still has one of the greatest redemption arcs I can think of, I still tear up when I see it, which boggles my mind since I rarely even tear up at funerals. Idk man something about it just resonates.
This also shuts down the "boromir never uses his shield" argument cuz he clearly uses it in moria and you clearly see he doesn't have it when the battle of Amon hen starts
@@Steamplague I like the idea, but Gimli, Legolas and Aragorn would all have put the hobbits behind them and protected them with their body
I feel like not enough people talk about Boromir's line, "Give them a moment for pity's sake," in the wake of Gandalf's death as proof for him not being a villain.
He's my favourite tragic character
Does anyone really think he's a villain unless they're a kid watching for the first time?
I loved him from the first time I saw it at 14. And by the time I was 15 my crush from Legolas changed to Boromir.
@@fls128 One of the cast members for Rings of Power said in an interview when discussing some nonsense that Boromir was "evil".
They haven't got a clue 😂
My wife was just saying "hey we need to finish EFAP LOTR"
It took a few years but we got her lol
You've got a keeper
Coxing my loved ones into EFAP enjoyers is the the only thing that brings me joy in life.
You have a keeper. Hold on to her tighter than Aragorn held on to Gimli's beard.
Here I was thinking that the Venn diagram for "LoTR fans", "EFAP fans", and "women" would look like a normal 2-circle Venn diagram and a solitary circle on a completely different page.
Keeper for definite
"We've had Fellowship of the Rings, yes. What about second Fellowship?"
- Don't think he knows about second Fellowship Pippin.
"What about movie minis? Two Towers, Afternoon Two Towers, Second Return of the King? _Third_ Return of the King! He knows about them, doesn't he?
The scene of Frodo putting his hand on Bilbo’s shoulder after the jump scare is so good. It embodies forgiveness and empathy. It’s more powerful than any words that Frodo could have said to Bilbo in that moment.
it’s the start of Frodo beginning to really understand the effects of the Ring over time. It sets up his relationship with Gollum in the Two Towers where he has a hard time accepting that the little weirdo is beyond help, because that means that he and Bilbo might also be beyond help…
Man, the scene with the ring in the snow... Everytime I see how prepared Aragorn was to use his sword againts Boromir I got the chills. You can see how he removes his hand from the sword once Boromir returns the ring to Frodo. Such an amazing scene.
The only movie where "old man yells at mountain" is epic as fuck.
The fact that there are two of them and they are basically both trying to convince the mountain to do what they want is the ultimate neighbors fighting over a fence situation.
Have I already watch the entire EFAP coverage of the trilogy? Yes.
Am I going to happily watch the entire trilogy again broken into three parts? You best believe it.
Hell, I might even go back and watch the original trilogy coverages just to be a complete mad man and take in all the LOTR content I can.
Appreciate all the work you do to keep us entertained lads. Can’t imagine how much work actually goes into making these and fingers crossed they can stay monetised for you.
Just rewatched the Special Features DVDs...i prefer that over any of the "New Stuff" in a heartbeat.
But maybe i´m mad.
I still cant get over the “everybody is high through the 3 movies” alternate reality.
I laughed my ass off
More lotr movie content is never a bad thing even if you've already seen it 😊
You are not alone! I'll never be not obsessed with these films, special features, trivias, everything!!! Did I say I was obsessed? 😂
I want to thank the entire EFAP crew and guests for everything you do. I have fallen out of contact with all of my friends, but I get to vicariously enjoy what I would with friends through you. Thanks, lads.
I love The Lord of the Rings.
I love everything about it: books, movies, games, the community that formed around it...
I love it for how much it means and represents, for what it can teach us and for how impactful it has been.
It changed the world around us and the hearts of many people.
I love it for what it is and I'll never stop loving it.
Rings of Power and Lord of Ring: Gollum are not necessarily included in that love... But at least they made me laugh, even if it was a bit painful to laugh at times.
I prefer The Lord of Ring tbh it is newer and therefore betterer than Geore RR Martin's movies? But it is good you like a thing. A Ring Thing. Ringa a ding ding.
The Rings of Power hacks must hate this movie with a passion. A perfect film in every respect.
"Hard R."
We've missed you too, Wolf!
Weta Digital worked wonders with these films, and that's due to Jackson and the team carefully considering how to tackle film production.
There's no replacement for thoughtful and passionate film production. There's no amount of visual effects that could cover the flaws of a sloppy production.
This trilogy is a shining example of how filmmakers should utilize visual effects to enhance their production whilst maintaining the physicality of live action.
Just because you can do something with digital effects it does not mean you should.
Thank you Massives, for giving us yet another reason to appreciate the sheer amount of love and care put into these timeless classics.
With all that being said though, your coverage is still not long enough. ❤
Did I watch the original 8 hour cut? Yes
Will I rewatch them as they come out? Yes
When sauruman is yelling his spell: "old man yells at cloud"
😂
"Isildur, the son of the queen, took up his mother's trident..."
Take up your mother’s trident!
“You have my sword”
“And my bow”
“And my tooth. That I got from that ice troll I killed”
Damn, the score for this movie is SO FUCKING GOOD!
That "head empty no thoughs" wolf pfp Wolf has is the best one he's ever had...
Except for the JEB-ker one!
If I remember correctly about Tom Bombadil, he had 100% power and control over his little area of the forest, but outside of that, he didn’t. It was a safe haven for the Fellowship, but a place they could not stay.
I had the same take away of Tom's character.
Not even Sauron could touch him within his domain but Tom would not desire ever to leave the old Forest or involve himself in the dealings Middle Earth beyond it.
EFAP triple dipping on one movie and all I can say is.... maybe a fourth dip please?
To be fair it's three movies totaling virtually 11 hours with a way too many people having some of the worst takes on it
@@DriveKnightJaden175 So you going to qualify those 'worst takes' or are you just going to sit there and pretend that your word alone is enough evidence for this?
When did @@DriveKnightJaden175abandon reason for madness?
@@Lughrochben what can men do against such reckless hate? /J
Edit: wrong person, that was supposed to be the other guy
It’s a shame you had to unlist the complete stream (damn copyright). But with the inclusion of chat, I’d say it’s a fair trade.
I agree, slap one of those coffee bean logos on it!
Oh no, i have to watch it again...
Looks like LotR is back on the menu,boys !!!
YEEEAAAHHHHH!!!!!
Uglúk's the greatest
I am so glad you guys decided to revisit these movies with the extended efap cast. Welcome back Wolf! LOVE YA ALL!
Can just imagine Mauler, Wolf and Rags having a quick briefing before this: "Should we keep the drugs and narcotics to a minimum in this one?" 😂
If I have a long drive, I put that on and laugh along with them. Just hilarious.
@@butthz8850 I always loved the part where Saruman tells Lurtz not to rape the hobbits, and they actually bought it up again in this lol.
Thank goodness they did that was so fucking stupid.
In the books, Merry and Pippin join with Frodo and Sam from the start. They know whats going on and leave with him. While i love that, i also love how they, not knowing at all whats going on, help Frodo and Sam without a thought. What loyalty.
We've had one EFAP Movies LOTR Extended Editions, yes. But what about second EFAP Movies LOTR Extended Editions?
"The mightiest man may be slain by one arrow, and Boromir was pierced by many." ~ Pippin
when these movies came out, they dwarfed everything else around them. Looking back from 20 years later, everything now is microscopic compared to the towering monoliths of LOTR
It was a good time where the CGI was good enough and before this inclusivity and pronoun stuff happened. Which makes it even better. I'm glad I was a grown man when these films came out and I pity the kids these days who never got to see films like this at that time.
Man that ending makes me tear up without fail. Even you guys talking during it cant detract from the impact these scenes have. Which is just testament to what a masterpiece these movies are
Agree, Ian Mckellen should have won an Oscar award for his portrayal of Gandalf.
Agreed, And Christopher Lee should have won supporting actor for Not-Gandalf
I just love Aragorn and Boromir, the interactions between them are so good. And I've always thought the way Aragorn looks at him is from a place pity, not of hate or disdain. Distrust, yes but the pity in Aragorn's eyes when those two interact always gets me. So damn good!
Oh Yeah, This Movie Can Definitely Piss Standin’ Up.
The kind of movie other movies stand next to at the urinal
Elronds face is so intrusive in the dream like sequence, I always thought, this is the face they chose to show that close in that light? 😂
The thing is, when this movie aired, we lived in this strange world where two people could have a difference of opinion without either being accused of being a "hater". The term didn't exist. I watched it with a few friends and one of my best friends was a book purist and said they ruined it by making changes, whereas I thought for the most part the changes were good or necessary as film and books are different mediums. I'd read the books maybe 20 times since 1977 when I first read it, so it wasn't that I didn't understand his point. After I got the Extended Edition on DVD we watched through a few times and argued every time, and it didn't make us enemies in the slightest.
Actually, the sequence with Tom Bombadil plays a very important part-
It lets us, the reader, know that the One Ring has LIMITS, it is not 'All Powerful', there are other forces and powers to which it is helpless to affect. As we are pounded more & more later on in the story about how overwhelming the Ring is, that knowledge is a bit of comfort. Tolkien has other brief reminders like that- The Cock Crowing before Rohan arrives, the Phial of Galadriel reminding us of the Stars above Middle-Earth, these all help to mitigate the despair & darkness one might feel.
I think Jackson made the right choice. He wanted to show the inherent danger of the ring and having Bombabil around would have somewhat undermined that.
One of the things I miss from the old movies was the use of sounds, color and voice of different factions. Like you guys said about Rohan, the Shire, Gondor, Mordor, they're all different and the sounds are different with them. The Shire had soft warm music, soft and warm tones, soft and warm characters. Rohan had dull green and red colors that became warmer by the third movie. Isengard was dark, cold and metallic. The consistency between the different senses actually feels good to experience. When we see the Marvels for example, we have 3 different personalities with colors that don't match what they do or who they are and the music separates itself from what's going on.
In comparison of another Marvel movie, Ironman one had sharp colors and tones when it needed it, warm/cold colors when it was needed, and rock music became more active every time Tony Stark accomplished something. Even if we're not talking about writing, it's really nice to experience a movie through other ways visually or audibly
Yeah Peter Jackson knocked it out of the park with this endeavor. The fact that he filmed all three films in one go and had the right crew and actors and production companies backing his vision is amazing and why people still love it to this day. Epic trilogy.
I want the technology of erasing memories just to watch these movies for the first time again.
This is literally film perfection.
It will be. Once it fits a woman.
@@Lunartic_ It would have to be a very big woman.
Believe it or not, this perfect timing. I just watched the extended cut to all three movies with my Dad both for the first time. He saw all the movies opening night and he got to tell me what was and wasn't different
That sounded like a great day.
The 🍉 scene, after watching the extended, turns from a simple riddle moment to something else.
Gandalf is stalling intentionally here because if he stalls long enough, they will reconsider and avoid Moria afterall.
Frodo is a Baggins though. Like Bilbo, he's too good at riddles, so Gandalf had to give in and open the doorway.
At 00:53:30 I believe that Nazgûl was sneaking around Aragorn as he was fighting his comrades to grab the ring. Only to stop when the only other Nazgûl flees instead of fighting.
The funny thing about Tom Bombadil is that Tolkien just refused to explain what he was. Dozens of people sent Tolkien letters asking him to explain Tom, and he simply refused to do so. And given the extreme level of detail that he goes into for everything else, I think it’s pretty obvious that Tom was just meant to be what he is. An oddity. Unexplainable. A hint that even with everything Tolkien tells us, this world still has so much we’ll never know.
Go Team Boromir. Very few talk about what a masterful performance this was from Sean Bean. He really brings everything to the table here, displaying pride, strength, dignity, but also tenderness, vulnerability, self doubt and shame. All with subtlety, never over the top. He also did that with Ned Stark, and even then, even after reading the books, watching him die was literally painful. Such a great actor.
Don't forgot that Gimli wants Frodo dead
There’s a part of me that always hopes for a different outcome for Boromir every time I watch this, even though I know it’s impossible.
21:36 absolutely love the detail that Gandalf refuses to touch the ring, even to pick it up and move it. Even though he doesn’t 100% know it’s the 1 ring he is still very respectful of it and careful to not be corrupted
1:37:22 - Mauler showing his noobness thinking the Goblin King is Ian McShane rather than Barry Humphries
Damn, now I wish we had Ian McShane as the goblin king. lol
Yeah as an Aussie I was annoyed about that and no one corrected him. IMDB or just watching the credits will sort this out. But it is what it is.
I appreciate the Frodo fall-counter segment.
The chat integration was worth it, MauLer. Thank you for your effort.
This is the best EFAP video.
I enjoy the critique episodes, but hearing you all gush over something I enjoy is wonderful. More appreciation of masterpieces, please!
Sure, I’ll watch this whole EFAP again.
Finally saw these in theaters for the anniversary, as brilliant as ever. Thought the integration of chat for the re-upload was a neat detail. Thanks for all the work getting these out lads! 😊
This trilogy is an example of timeless art. Great acting. direction, cinematography, etc. Everyone involved in these films should be proud.
"It's like _calm down, film - I can only coom so many times in a row."_
I've always found it hilarious how Mauler will deal with films as if he's dealing with a person. he'll talk to the film sometimes when he's got an issue with it, good or bad. that's a funny.
Let us consume this glorious EFAP once more!
There's another layer of sadness watching this after Bernard Hill's passing. An absolute legend.
Yeah he nailed that role. It was a good casting choice.
@@bewmdogg To be honest, I can't thin k of any bad or inappropriate casting the the entire trilogy.
1:37:41 As a young teenager who had just experienced September 11th, this exchange hit particularly hard in theaters.
Thank you for immortalizing my demand for more Gollum gameplay footage (2:01)
The Nazgul... very terrifying.
Tolkien only ever gave an identity to two of them: The Witch-King of Angmar, and Khamul the Easterling. Very little explored about what they were beyond that they were once great kings of Men, but I think that enhances their horror effect. It's like "Whatever they were before, that doesn't matter. All that's left of them is these evil shades, thralls of Sauron... no trace of their past or former identities, they don't even have their own bodies or wills. This is what succumbing to darkness and evil does to us. This is why we have to get Frodo to Rivendell as fast as possible. This is why the only thing we can do with the One Ring is destroy it." It's really brilliant.
I was 12, 1977, when I watched Star Wars IV. I remember I was absolutely blown away. I was 36 when I watched The Fellowship, and I had the same feeling as when I was 12 and watched Star Wars IV.
This was great! Thanks guys. It was fun hanging out with the movie.
I am going to watch these all over again! peak fiction is worth watching many times in different ways!
My first major purchase in life was dropping $3000 on a 50" hdtv & 5.1 dolby surround sound just to try to recreate the Balrog experience at home. One of the most memorable cinematic moments of my life.
They had someone who wrote the code for CG fire, during the making of Fellowship, in Maya (program ). (I know this because I was training to be a computer animator in post secondary using Maya at the time). Their technical achievements aren't given enough praise or credit. #GreatestTrilogyEver
The King is back, baby.
Welcome back, Dishonoured Wolf.
So i think this is my 3rd time watching this. Never gets old.
I love the whole "There is hope left" both from Gandalf talking to Elrond and Bormoir talking to Aragorn.....Aragorn's name when he lived in Rivendell is Estel.....the elven word for Hope
I was six when my mom read me the books. Boromir was my guy. How I cried when he died.
“I know what I have to do, but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it”- Kylbo Renggins
If there is one moment I will give the Hobbit movies its the scene with Galadriel and Gandalf talking, it actually manages to be a good, poignant moment
MauLer summarizes themes better and with more passion than anyone I’ve ever heard. His whole speech about Boromir is perfect.
I love you guys but you should have mentioned my favorite scene in lotr. when the room goes dark ,gets smaller and Gandalf gets huge in the span of 3 seconds, demonstrating the unimaginable power held by Gandalf and the overwhelming care he has for bilbo . The first time I saw that, it floored me, and it still does today. What a perfect scene.
I remember I really didn't want to see this when it came out. I was in middle school and I had no idea what Lord of the Rings was and had no interest in some fantasy with elves and fairies. But my mom dragged me to it and it turned out to be the greatest film I ever saw.
My favorite group of Mad Chad Lads discussing arguably the best trilogy ever.
Don bless, you beautiful bastards did it! Hopefully you can get paid for the double work !!
Amazing job EFAP wow collective knowledge and love of this film from the lineup is moving ty guys.
possibly the only writing imperfection in this movie is Elrond saying "from whence it came". whence already means "from where", so you don't say "from whence". you just say "whence it came".
On new fantasy looking awful, there is a description in God Emperor of Dune on how Leto II homogenized, made everything sapped of soul, pale facsimiles, everyone and everything is depressed, and no dreams can be realized.
That is what modern fantasy looks like
It's incredible how you could basically pick any character as your favorite and you wouldn't be wrong
I watched and loved the 8 hour stream, a shame it can't be monitized, giving this a like and a comment to help.
I have watched The Trilogy more times than I can remember at this point, but the Fellowship of the Ring will always be my favourite movie of the three.
I really enjoy the slow start and introduction to the world as well as the characters, despite it's comparatively smaller scale it's just as epic as the two other movies.
Not to mention Boromir, who's my personal favorite character of the trilogy and potentially one of the greatest fictional characters, not only when it comes to the Lord of the Rings but in general. Despite a shorter screen time, compared to other main characters, he brings so much nuance and depth that it's a pleasure to watch his journey every single time, even if I know it by heart.
It’s so weird to remember when these came out. I was like, they were great, sure, but the sweet summer child that I was expected that I would see more movies in the future as good or maybe even better. Little did I know that no, this was it. This is actually the best (3) movie(s) that will ever be made, or at least very likely so, given the current state of affairs.
2:34:00 I've seen this scene a dozen times at least, and it still chokes me up. Sean Bean is a fucking treasure and this is a masterclass.
Is it weird that I keep pausing the video to add to the discussion? 😅
I also do it all the time :'D
If Boromir didn’t try to take the ring from Frodo, the Uruks probably would have caught him. He basically left early. So, Boromir saved everyone because he set Frodo on his path.
I also don’t think the ring itself gets the credit it deserves.. it’s a piece of Sauron and I think it has had a hand in the years since.. it needed someone to bring it to Mordor. Someone strong enough. It knew Frodo had the strength to get there but sensed a weakness. We all know it was Gollums greed that destroyed it. Amazing story that really makes you think at the end of the day.
Greed is a path to success but at what cost. Only the servant of the enemy can know… greed among all other evils is the most common, amidst the others it has a tendency to serve the good before the end…. Technology and wealth, power and aggression, more is evil but more is necessary for survival. Tolkien a grade A 4th dimensional philosopher
All its machinations and manipulations undone by a Hobbit that had to believe in the possibility of Redemption, allowing for Gollum to intervene at the critical moment.
There's something to think about there.
Everyone needs a Sam in their life. Likewise, everyone should aspire to be a Sam in someone else's.
I am unashamedly basking in both the artistry of the trilogy and the unique sharp wit of our fucking panel. This trilogy makes me hope for humankind, honestly. This trilogy deserves all the words.
Getting emotional during the boromoir scene when somewhat passively listening to the Efap watch….
Oo Mauler didn't know that the goblin king in the Hobbit was voiced by Barry Humphries. But it did sound like Ian Mcshane to be fair
Those tree reviews of LOTR films alongside with praise of Jurassic Park and Arcane maybe amongst the best episodes of EFAP - certainly they are my personal favorite. It's funny to see EFAP crew making fun of bad media but it's heartwarming to see them analyzing something good - it bring you to the times when western studios were capable of producing great films that could stand test of times. Not so much those days... then it's even more important to remember those good movies. So, thank you for those LOTR reviews even if I found some of your opinion about Tolkien's book to be controversial.
Every Frame a Praise
I just watched the 8hr version again, how dare you make me watch this in parts!! Again! The boss can't handle the Longman I see
I recommend putting on auto captions when Bilbo reunites with Frodo in Rivendale he says “My damn boy” instead of dear boy
I get off work 30 minutes before the stream starts. Thankfully the metal shop I work at is only 2.5 minutes away from my house. I missed the OG release, so I'm fine with you having to re-release it. I like to be included in things.
I remember sitting in the theater at the end of this movie being really mad because there were so many things left unresolved 😅 but once I found out there were 2 more coming it made me feel a little better lol
On an unrelated note, I want to always dress up and look like Gandalf the Grey when (and if) I become a grandpa.
24:50 That shot is absolutely stunning. I LOVE the way Minis Tirith is illuminated by those sunbeams as if it’s some kind of divine light serving as a beacon of hope for the world, sitting on a fertile plain surrounded by mountains. But then in the background Mordor looks like Hell itself, with it’s black skies and the fiery eruption telling us that there’s something REALLY BAD happening over there, and the spreading dark clouds foreshadowing that it’s evil is growing stronger and beginning to spread.
The Lord of the Rings will remain a timeless masterpiece till the end of times and existence.