its weird. I dont remember logi getting as much flak for the superlight. I know they did and some people hated the price but I dont remember this level of discussion around this transition to lightweight stuff. Its almost like logi benefited from holding back on features for their mice. Both companies made sacrifices to arrive at a low weight and high price. but razer seems hurt more by it because they had more features to strip away.
and remember logi used the same sensor, the exact same shell and the same shitty omron switches on the superlight and still charged a huge markup. At least razer is pushing the technology on their mice as overkill and unnecessary as they may be.
It's more like, logitech did it almost 2 years ago, when the market wasn't as competitive. Why get a deathadder v3 pro when the pulsar xlite v2 exists. There is too much competition nowadays to sell such a normal spec mouse at 150.
Logitech didn't get flak because the superlight launched in a market with almost no saturation. The only real competition at the time was finalmouse, who also had ridiculous prices. The $60-$80 lightweight mice started becoming well known after the superlight released. Razer is releasing this mouse into a market that now has heavy competition at far lower price points, and doesn't really offer anything new over their competition.
Yeah that's a great point. I remember have a *small* vocal minority that weren't thrilled with the Superlight, but mostly people were excited to get a big-brand performance mouse that didn't have holes. The lightweight wireless game was mostly served by like G-Wolves and others if memory serves. Maaaybe Glorious, can't remember when MoW dopped. Felt like a bunch of low quality, generic mice with holes at that time. But yeah, to your other point, the 1/2 combo of the Viper Ult and the DAv2 on the dock was it for me - I didn't mind the heavier weight on the DAv2 bc I knew what it was and what I was gonna use it for.
INNACCURATE INFO AT 1:10 - the measurement labels on the EC2 are incorrect, the listed values are for the EC1. DAv3 *is* still a longer, taller EC2. It is a hair wider though - not narrower. Sorry for the botched graphic.
I’m glad to see a good refresh on the deathadder design. It was my first mouse. The price is pretty hard to swallow though, and the lack of a top DPI button. I do love Razer’s optical switches, but I think for the price I’d rather go for the glorious or Pwnage ergo options
I'm kinda scared for Razer's dock now, I hope they don't just forget about it, I've used the dock since the Ouroboros days and now with the Viper Ultimate and DA V2 Pro, and it's one of the best "gimmick" any manufacturer has ever given the consumer IMO
Love to see USB-C charging, but does it use a proprietary cable shape like their prior micro-USB cables did? Not much good to use a universal charging standard if they make it only fit their trapezoidal cables...
Relatable @Aaron. I lost my Ninjutsu Origin One X charging cable and went throught 10 cables to find one that barely fits to charge my mouse. Really kills the whole purpose of "type-C".
I think this was a good move on Razer's part, the Deathadder is a comfortable shape, but previous to this model they have always been crazy heavy. I have the Viper V2 Pro, but tempted to get this mouse simply because I haven't used a Deathadder for a good 10 years and it would be kind of nostalgic.
My favorite part of the death adder is the flared clicks as no matter where my fingers are it’s always able to click. That’s the issue I have with any other mouse the edge of my middle finger always hits the edge of the mouse and messes with my right click. Huge shame they changed that. Also no dpi buttons in the middle. I really see this as a downgrade.
This is a MAJOR downgrade from the V2 Pro. The significant redesign, that whole list of features removed, the removal of the side rubberized grips (forcing you to use the much uglier grip tape if you want it). I'm so glad I recently picked up the V2 Pro for cheap.
Yeah, those flares and the ergo shape are the main reason that I mained two mice now, the RVU and DA V2 Pro, Viper for comps, DA for light work and casual games
@@JDAWG2111 Well, lucky for you as i highly doubt they're going to discontinue the old DA any time soon. The price may even drop more. I got mine for 80€ months ago. It seems to be "on sale" for the past 6-7 months in my country every other week. It's not my shape and i haven't used it for over a week in total but it's very good mouse indeed. As for downgrade, it's targetted towards different audience but, i don't like the "less features, less plastic, higher price" marketing tactic that has been floating around for the past year. Not just with Razer, but everyone else that falls into that category.
They talked to everyone on Reddit and everyone seemed to feel that the flares were the main thing holding the shape back. Maybe everyone against the change should have spoke up.
I agree with you about the getting less mouse for more money, most people are not serious competitive gamers. Its hard to fork over $150 for a lightweight ergo when you have mice like the Xlite and Model D wireless (Now pro version too) out there. I love Razers efforts of bringing something new to the table though, cant wait to see what they have in the books next. Great review as always B!
Death Adder V2 Pro was a great mouse. I love mine. It was close to a perfect mouse to me. Wished the V2 had a USB-C, but otherwise, I wouldn't want anything changed.
Everything was sounding good up until the price. Killing all those features I didn't care about only to see how much they still want for it was a bit of a bummer.
The extra effort to film yourself washing your hands just to play it when you mentioned washing your hands super briefly is top notch my friend. Bravo.
The dimensions on 1:14 for the Zowie mouse are for the EC1 not for the EC2. I am pretty sure its labelled incorrectly if you go by the official measurements by zowie on their site. This had me disappointed for like 2 hours until I saw other reviews because I was looking for a mouse strictly wider than the EC2, this made it seems it would be narrower.
I think getting rid of the lighting just frees you up to leave synapse closed which probably works for a lot of people. The one thing I miss is dpi buttons. If I need a mouse this light I obviously don't like lifting things.
@@buccatini_noodle Sometimes when switching up between monitors or whatever I can but not too often. It's just like keyboards putting switches on the bottom I might only switch from mac to windows or on to off 2-4 times a day but it could just be on the side?
While the side flares are iconic, i like that razer finally make the sides, especially the fronts, straighter now. My grip is relaxed claw and i like to stretch my ring finger all the way to the front of the mouse so those flares really got in the way back when i used a DA 2013.
Your thoughts on the DA are exactly how I felt about the Viper. Great mouse and performed excellent but $150 is such a steep ask for a big box retailer. Great video, super informative. Saved me a couple dollars too 😂
Totally agree that its less mouse for more money, as other people have said I bought the v2 for most of the features they have now removed and found it very comfortable they didn't need to change anything other than USB C and the rubberised sides as they wear out very quickly. Unfortunately they took away the 2 main features that I bought the v2 for; Dock compatibility and Bluetooth mode. Sadly I wont be buying the v3.
Never been a Deathadder fan, in fact I couldn't stand the shape previously. This new mouse however looks like one I definitely want to try though I guess that won't be anytime soon thanks to that price (to be fair that goes for all wireless mice). A change from shell-buttons to separated buttons is ALWAYS the right move. Don't mind the deletion of RGB but I do mind not having any sort of battery indicator light on the mouse.
Nice to see the small changes in shape. The original deathadder shape would cause pain on the inside of my ring finger because of that hard corner at the front. Big hands were not great for that mouse. Ended up moving to g500s back in the day because of this.
They NEED to release the Basilisk V3 Pro already! It's been over two years now! Having a mouse with three thumb buttons changes the game entirely. Once you experience it, you'll never want to go back
I got the DAV3 wired and i really loved it but the cable was just a bit too stiff, i think if they made the wire on it super flexible like previous wired razer mouses i've owned, i gladly would've given up the 8000hz polling rate for a better cable. So i'm really glad I tried the DAV3 pro. Getting rid of that wire got rid of my only complaint. It's really expensive but it's a good mouse.
I just wanted to say . I stumbled on your channel a while back. Your content is some of the most honest and well produced on here. I recently picked up the huntsman TE keyboard. This is my first mechanical keyboard and i think I might have found a new hobby for my wife to hate. keep up the good work!
I tried out a lot of mice the last few months and the DeathAdder V3 Pro got me hooked, it reminds me a lot of my Razer Mamba i used to play with for a long time. Just lighter and better
I would have launched this as a different product. It seems like a nice mouse, but the death adder shape being almost identical generation to generation was what I felt the main selling point of the name was.
i'm so afraid of buying this mouse and having to return it because the shape is so different. The first time I put my hands on a DA (had a chroma) was like "perfect shape". And I eventually got other mice and none gave me that feeling again. I was wishing for a wireless DA for so long. I think i'm going to get the V2 Pro instead, it's probably safer
I like the look, definitely made some good edits to the DA, just wish it was 118-120mm long. Since i invested in the GProxSL almost 2yrs ago, it's been a hard mouse to beat imo (adding the LGG Glass skates made it better imo). Just want to see Razer drop alot of their wireless tech into smaller footprint pro line as well, would be a game changer for the market.
One of my friend bought this and I tried it as well. I would still stick with my pro x super light. The more mice I try, more I appreciate pro x. It was ahead of its time. I know its only 2 years, still no one was discussing in that light weight category 2 years ago.
The fact that you spent time filming slow-mo footage of yourself washing your hands is the reason I continue to stay subscribed and notified to your videos.
Wired version is 50$ and features 8k polling and is 59G… excellent mouse feels great in hand and never needs to be charged. 150’s a big ask when the wired version is so good at 1/3 the price…
i loved the deathadder, but then the size was being uncomfortable, then they came out with the deathadder v2 mini, got that, loved it a lot but sadly it's not wireless, hope this is good or i just go for the v3 basilisk pro, rn im using viper ultimate
I was waiting for the wired version for a long time, but I’m glad I went for the SS Prime instead. The DaV3 is probably slightly better in terms of sensor placement, cable and weight, but the Prime is 100% perfect when it comes to build quality, shape and buttons. The latter of which the DaV3 seems to not be, as it’s reported it has some side wobble and notable post travel. I can’t stand side wobble, especially if there’s signs of the post travel being scratchy as it has been on my previous 3 lightweight ergo mice 😅 Luckily I found a mouse with somewhat unique buttons/switches with absolutely zero signs of that
I recently got the wired version, and it feels like the wire is not even there. At that point, I don’t see the advantage of wireless for the price, especially considering the disadvantages.
4:23 That's what happened to me with the old deathadder. And even though I always felt like I was gripping the mouse "rotated" it was my best performing mouse... So, gonna give this v3 a try.
Still rocking the deathadder 3.5g (left-handed edition). But though its showing its age. Cracked shell and sticky clicks. I wish they gave it this new treatment for those really needed a dedicated left handed mouse.
As someone who is waiting for a replacement for a g703 that's lighter, this probably isn't it. It feels too long, I've tried the DA v2 and it felt just okay, nothing special. The back-mid hump of the g703 is just something else. For now, the NP01 fits me the best, better than the Outset AX.
As I was watching I kept thinking about the pulsar V2 and me having just got that one. I dare say it's better in every way to my super light. Clicks are crisp and tracking is flawless as can be. I mostly play apex and it's made my experience more consistent.
Razer should make a deathadder v3 mini wired with the new shape of the deathaddver v3 but dimensions should be on the da v2 mini. And yes i love the da v2 mini it’s perfect for my handsize 17x10 and gripstyle of relax claw
the larger shape is really good. it's really comfortable for me with large hands. if they make it smaller, then I won't buy it because I already have mice that fit my hand and allow me to palm grip it. the classic deathadder is the only normal-style mouse that isn't too small for me, and this seems like it would be too small.
that coating problem really has me worried personally. I hope it is not like that on the retail copies but i would hazard a guess that they are the same which sucks as i just ordered the white one lol.
Honestly, I was dreaming of a wireless DA for a long time and I was using other mice up until I saw news about the V3. Up until then I saw there was a DA wireless but couldn't justify paying 150 bucks for it. Nowadays im considering but I'm not willing to spend so much on the V3, especially since the shape is so different. I'm thinking of getting the V2 Pro which has the shape I like
Do you notice any digging in to the pad when pushing it hard, thinking of the small mousefeet. It have ruined mice for me before, I push the mouse down very hard in the pad. EC sized skates is what have worked for me before
After getting the orochi v2 i have to have swappable batteries now. Ive had to many wireless devices with rechargeable lithium packs that go bad within 1-3 years of owning it. Rechargeable double A's have lasted a lot longer for me especially if you get some nice Panasonic's. Bonus it takes a couple of seconds to swap them
The price is steep however this is where they have me in a bit of a bind. I also have large hands. I've tried a lot of other mice and this mouse alongside the model O and the model S are the only mice that feels comfortable to me. The fact that it uses usb c a plus to me because I travel with my mouse to work or use it at home for work. It will be nice to forget about the cable because all my devices use USB c or lightning. This is highly contingent on the port being able to accept non proprietary cables. The big Downer is that the docking port for the USB receiver is gone I wish they adapted what roccat did with their kone pro air mice where the receiver can be seated inside the mouse for travel purposes. I'm not going to miss the lighting from my dav2. If this is that much of a letdown then I'll return it.
Maybe a silly question, but is that "eggshell" texture feel the same on the black ones? I loved that about the Orochi and is actually my favorite thing about this one.
This is a good mouse, but slightly hard to justify for me personally. I purchased a Deathadder v2x for $45, and I like it a lot for what it is. The matte black finish and no RGB is a design aesthetic I can relate to. I also own a Steelseries Prime Wireless, which gives me a lot of the EC shape, but without the DA front flare. So while I am curious about this mouse, I basically can't justify the price tag. Perhaps wired though. Would be interesting if that came with 8k polling.
currently switching from gpx superlight and viper v2 pro regularly. ive always missed the shape of my g403 and i did really enjoy ergo mice. will definitely be looking at this when my next paycheck rolls around. been loving razer recently
Looks like a great mouse and the price seems fair to me given the performance and overall quality. Currently I'm using a Logitech G Pro Superlight with G915 TKL keyboard but will be scooping up the Deathadder V3 Pro and Deathstalker V2 TKL to see how they compare.
I love that shirt! Ive never used razor since I feel like it isnt for me, I do kinda like their mouses, the shape isnt really as good as lets say a Logitech g pro super light in my opinion(I got like basically same size hands as you, maybe a bit shorter, like an inch or half an inch) Razor is still very good with their mouses.
I have the gpro, super light, final mouse air ninja and a few others I can’t think of at the moment. This v3 is BY FAR my favorite mouse. High key endgame for me. I don’t get the hate at all
Even as a competitive player, I don't really see 4K polling rate as a necessity. Plenty of pros still use 1000 or even 500 in big tournaments and still perform well.
Looks similar to the Mamba Wireless which was also a pretty good ergo shape and I snagged one at $80 when it was on sale. I'd like to compare it to the DAv3 when I get a chance as the Mamba Wireless is a bit heavy so it's relegated to mainly productivity usage in my rotation.
@@badseedtech It looks like a welcomed change since I could never get used to the feel of the Deathadder since its inception even though the 1600 DPI sensor of the first model was pretty flawless. Maybe they'll keep the Mamba line as a midweight option where it has a spot to store the wireless receiver as well as having RGB.
Can you set the hyperpolling dongle to a lower polling rate, thus saving battery life? Often I just play casual games but I do care for higher polling rates when I go and play competitively.
@BadSeed Tech Do you have suggestions for the large hand people then? I like you suggested this is "medium" at 0:89.. just still looking out for big hands
Where's the mz1 wireless review? I've been bouncing back and forth from my orochi V2 and viper mini and I'm not sure where to go. This is promising with 4k polling rate but I do hear great things about zy's rail
Ok i have a serious question: The pulsar xlite wireless has a leftclick thats way too high up for me. Is the leftclick lower on this mouse? Meaning, closer to the mousepad. Thanks
My 1st gen VU is still going strong coming from a DA when no wireless lightweight version existed, if this VU ever dies I will get the DA V3 Pro, ergo is the way.
I'll stay with the V2 first gaming mouse ever was a deathadder back in like 2009. Just got another v2 for $70. I'm glad they have the USBC charging, but it bugs me that I purchased the wireless charging dock for the v2. Plus I'm a student now so I'd honestly rather have Bluetooth than a dongle. Preferably both. This thing doesn't even hold its own dongle. Iunno. This is Kind of meh for me.
This probably would've been compelling if I didn't already get a Viper Ultimate for $50 on Prime Day. This is a great mouse and perfect for my hand size, but I could never understand why a gaming mouse would be worth more than $100.
That’s right, it’s not (headline). It’s missing the very important DPI buttons on the top of the mouse that far more people use than these companies realize.
its weird. I dont remember logi getting as much flak for the superlight. I know they did and some people hated the price but I dont remember this level of discussion around this transition to lightweight stuff. Its almost like logi benefited from holding back on features for their mice. Both companies made sacrifices to arrive at a low weight and high price. but razer seems hurt more by it because they had more features to strip away.
and remember logi used the same sensor, the exact same shell and the same shitty omron switches on the superlight and still charged a huge markup. At least razer is pushing the technology on their mice as overkill and unnecessary as they may be.
Logitech has some staunch defender’s for… some reason
It's more like, logitech did it almost 2 years ago, when the market wasn't as competitive. Why get a deathadder v3 pro when the pulsar xlite v2 exists. There is too much competition nowadays to sell such a normal spec mouse at 150.
Logitech didn't get flak because the superlight launched in a market with almost no saturation. The only real competition at the time was finalmouse, who also had ridiculous prices. The $60-$80 lightweight mice started becoming well known after the superlight released. Razer is releasing this mouse into a market that now has heavy competition at far lower price points, and doesn't really offer anything new over their competition.
Yeah that's a great point. I remember have a *small* vocal minority that weren't thrilled with the Superlight, but mostly people were excited to get a big-brand performance mouse that didn't have holes. The lightweight wireless game was mostly served by like G-Wolves and others if memory serves. Maaaybe Glorious, can't remember when MoW dopped. Felt like a bunch of low quality, generic mice with holes at that time.
But yeah, to your other point, the 1/2 combo of the Viper Ult and the DAv2 on the dock was it for me - I didn't mind the heavier weight on the DAv2 bc I knew what it was and what I was gonna use it for.
INNACCURATE INFO AT 1:10 - the measurement labels on the EC2 are incorrect, the listed values are for the EC1.
DAv3 *is* still a longer, taller EC2. It is a hair wider though - not narrower.
Sorry for the botched graphic.
Innaccurate info is at 1:10 !
This version of the da is just a mamba wireless with a new name the look pretty must the same or is it just me
I loved “Clippy” from MS 🥰👍
I’m glad to see a good refresh on the deathadder design. It was my first mouse. The price is pretty hard to swallow though, and the lack of a top DPI button. I do love Razer’s optical switches, but I think for the price I’d rather go for the glorious or Pwnage ergo options
Pwnage ergo is so good but no supported glides and the holes get messy for sure
I'm kinda scared for Razer's dock now, I hope they don't just forget about it, I've used the dock since the Ouroboros days and now with the Viper Ultimate and DA V2 Pro, and it's one of the best "gimmick" any manufacturer has ever given the consumer IMO
I love razer dock
It is useless
Love to see USB-C charging, but does it use a proprietary cable shape like their prior micro-USB cables did? Not much good to use a universal charging standard if they make it only fit their trapezoidal cables...
Great question! Happy to report it works with every USB-C cable I have on my desk.
Relatable @Aaron. I lost my Ninjutsu Origin One X charging cable and went throught 10 cables to find one that barely fits to charge my mouse. Really kills the whole purpose of "type-C".
I think this was a good move on Razer's part, the Deathadder is a comfortable shape, but previous to this model they have always been crazy heavy. I have the Viper V2 Pro, but tempted to get this mouse simply because I haven't used a Deathadder for a good 10 years and it would be kind of nostalgic.
Who is the viper v2 pro for and who is the deathadder v3 for? (Regardless of price) I have average/smaller hands as I’m 5’7” male at 169 lbs
@@tvm2209 The deathadder is for 6'10 330lbs males with tiny hands.
My favorite part of the death adder is the flared clicks as no matter where my fingers are it’s always able to click. That’s the issue I have with any other mouse the edge of my middle finger always hits the edge of the mouse and messes with my right click. Huge shame they changed that. Also no dpi buttons in the middle. I really see this as a downgrade.
This is a MAJOR downgrade from the V2 Pro. The significant redesign, that whole list of features removed, the removal of the side rubberized grips (forcing you to use the much uglier grip tape if you want it). I'm so glad I recently picked up the V2 Pro for cheap.
I honestly think this new shape looks bad :/ it's not a deathadder anymore!
Yeah, those flares and the ergo shape are the main reason that I mained two mice now, the RVU and DA V2 Pro, Viper for comps, DA for light work and casual games
@@JDAWG2111 Well, lucky for you as i highly doubt they're going to discontinue the old DA any time soon. The price may even drop more. I got mine for 80€ months ago. It seems to be "on sale" for the past 6-7 months in my country every other week. It's not my shape and i haven't used it for over a week in total but it's very good mouse indeed.
As for downgrade, it's targetted towards different audience but, i don't like the "less features, less plastic, higher price" marketing tactic that has been floating around for the past year. Not just with Razer, but everyone else that falls into that category.
They talked to everyone on Reddit and everyone seemed to feel that the flares were the main thing holding the shape back. Maybe everyone against the change should have spoke up.
I agree with you about the getting less mouse for more money, most people are not serious competitive gamers. Its hard to fork over $150 for a lightweight ergo when you have mice like the Xlite and Model D wireless (Now pro version too) out there. I love Razers efforts of bringing something new to the table though, cant wait to see what they have in the books next. Great review as always B!
Death Adder V2 Pro was a great mouse. I love mine. It was close to a perfect mouse to me. Wished the V2 had a USB-C, but otherwise, I wouldn't want anything changed.
Everything was sounding good up until the price. Killing all those features I didn't care about only to see how much they still want for it was a bit of a bummer.
7:10 you always do be that smooth with those ads real amazing work my brother, keep it up.
The extra effort to film yourself washing your hands just to play it when you mentioned washing your hands super briefly is top notch my friend. Bravo.
The dimensions on 1:14 for the Zowie mouse are for the EC1 not for the EC2. I am pretty sure its labelled incorrectly if you go by the official measurements by zowie on their site.
This had me disappointed for like 2 hours until I saw other reviews because I was looking for a mouse strictly wider than the EC2, this made it seems it would be narrower.
Ah shit, good catch man. Sorry for the headache - I’ll put a pinned comment up.
I think getting rid of the lighting just frees you up to leave synapse closed which probably works for a lot of people. The one thing I miss is dpi buttons. If I need a mouse this light I obviously don't like lifting things.
How much are you actually changing dpi though? I never do once it’s set up
@@buccatini_noodle Sometimes when switching up between monitors or whatever I can but not too often. It's just like keyboards putting switches on the bottom I might only switch from mac to windows or on to off 2-4 times a day but it could just be on the side?
While the side flares are iconic, i like that razer finally make the sides, especially the fronts, straighter now. My grip is relaxed claw and i like to stretch my ring finger all the way to the front of the mouse so those flares really got in the way back when i used a DA 2013.
Man, I didn't even notice the grin until you pointed it out, cannot un-see!
Your thoughts on the DA are exactly how I felt about the Viper. Great mouse and performed excellent but $150 is such a steep ask for a big box retailer. Great video, super informative. Saved me a couple dollars too 😂
Dude, you put a lot of work into your videos and it shows. Really good stuff. Thank you for doing what you do.
Thanks so much! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Totally agree that its less mouse for more money, as other people have said I bought the v2 for most of the features they have now removed and found it very comfortable they didn't need to change anything other than USB C and the rubberised sides as they wear out very quickly.
Unfortunately they took away the 2 main features that I bought the v2 for; Dock compatibility and Bluetooth mode. Sadly I wont be buying the v3.
Yes! A taller death adder now I can finally wrest my palm on it. Which was the main reason why I used the rival 310 for so long
Never been a Deathadder fan, in fact I couldn't stand the shape previously. This new mouse however looks like one I definitely want to try though I guess that won't be anytime soon thanks to that price (to be fair that goes for all wireless mice). A change from shell-buttons to separated buttons is ALWAYS the right move. Don't mind the deletion of RGB but I do mind not having any sort of battery indicator light on the mouse.
Good to see light ergo shapes getting more love from the more mainstream manufacturers.
@Stephen Black check out the pulsar xlite v2, they also have a mini size if your hands are smaller.
Nice to see the small changes in shape. The original deathadder shape would cause pain on the inside of my ring finger because of that hard corner at the front. Big hands were not great for that mouse. Ended up moving to g500s back in the day because of this.
They NEED to release the Basilisk V3 Pro already! It's been over two years now! Having a mouse with three thumb buttons changes the game entirely. Once you experience it, you'll never want to go back
I agree
@@TechKile W
@@TechKile yoo kyle!
Yeah I liked my old G502. But i wouldn’t take it over mice companies are making now. Lighter mice are so much more nimble. But it was a hard change
@@MekaniQ @Michael Bertolino aye what’s up fam
Nice. I never used one, but all the improvements to reduce weight are similar to what was done with the Viper V2.
I got the DAV3 wired and i really loved it but the cable was just a bit too stiff, i think if they made the wire on it super flexible like previous wired razer mouses i've owned, i gladly would've given up the 8000hz polling rate for a better cable. So i'm really glad I tried the DAV3 pro. Getting rid of that wire got rid of my only complaint. It's really expensive but it's a good mouse.
How would you compare this to a Model D wireless?
Size and shape *roughly* the same. DAv3 has better palm support, higher scroll wheel, triggers feel much better.
Getting rid of the Bluetooth is such a miss for them. That was one of the main reason I love my DAV2. Hoping they bring it back one day :(
I just wanted to say . I stumbled on your channel a while back. Your content is some of the most honest and well produced on here.
I recently picked up the huntsman TE keyboard. This is my first mechanical keyboard and i think I might have found a new hobby for my wife to hate.
keep up the good work!
I tried out a lot of mice the last few months and the DeathAdder V3 Pro got me hooked, it reminds me a lot of my Razer Mamba i used to play with for a long time. Just lighter and better
I would have launched this as a different product. It seems like a nice mouse, but the death adder shape being almost identical generation to generation was what I felt the main selling point of the name was.
i'm so afraid of buying this mouse and having to return it because the shape is so different. The first time I put my hands on a DA (had a chroma) was like "perfect shape". And I eventually got other mice and none gave me that feeling again. I was wishing for a wireless DA for so long. I think i'm going to get the V2 Pro instead, it's probably safer
Idk I think the V2 is better with more button options. This feels like its competing in the wrong category.
Exactly. As a long time death adder user I feel the same way.
I expect LOTS of leaked b-roll when you get the viper mini wireless in. Great vid!
Handwashing game on point. I hate the oily feeling on my mouse from my fingers after some use. Even use a microfiber cloth to clean the mouse.
I like the look, definitely made some good edits to the DA, just wish it was 118-120mm long. Since i invested in the GProxSL almost 2yrs ago, it's been a hard mouse to beat imo (adding the LGG Glass skates made it better imo). Just want to see Razer drop alot of their wireless tech into smaller footprint pro line as well, would be a game changer for the market.
There's always the xlite v2 mini at 55 grams and 117mm long if you need a small wireless ergo
One of my friend bought this and I tried it as well. I would still stick with my pro x super light. The more mice I try, more I appreciate pro x. It was ahead of its time. I know its only 2 years, still no one was discussing in that light weight category 2 years ago.
Thank you for showing the different widths of the mouse. Very helpful!
The fact that you spent time filming slow-mo footage of yourself washing your hands is the reason I continue to stay subscribed and notified to your videos.
Seems like a good option for EC1/EC2 users who are sick of waiting for Zowie to release wireless versions
Wired version is 50$ and features 8k polling and is 59G… excellent mouse feels great in hand and never needs to be charged. 150’s a big ask when the wired version is so good at 1/3 the price…
This video style is much better imo. Much more relaxed than the energized way of before. He's got a great voice for this
2:58 is no one gonna talk about the dirtyness on the feet😭
i loved the deathadder, but then the size was being uncomfortable, then they came out with the deathadder v2 mini, got that, loved it a lot but sadly it's not wireless, hope this is good or i just go for the v3 basilisk pro, rn im using viper ultimate
Man I'm really gonna miss the bluetooth mode. I use the v2 for both work and gaming
I was waiting for the wired version for a long time, but I’m glad I went for the SS Prime instead. The DaV3 is probably slightly better in terms of sensor placement, cable and weight, but the Prime is 100% perfect when it comes to build quality, shape and buttons. The latter of which the DaV3 seems to not be, as it’s reported it has some side wobble and notable post travel. I can’t stand side wobble, especially if there’s signs of the post travel being scratchy as it has been on my previous 3 lightweight ergo mice 😅 Luckily I found a mouse with somewhat unique buttons/switches with absolutely zero signs of that
I just bought this thing and I couldnt be happier. So comfy.
I recently got the wired version, and it feels like the wire is not even there. At that point, I don’t see the advantage of wireless for the price, especially considering the disadvantages.
Damn... I wash my hands a lot too, was hoping to get a white mouse but seeing that dirt alone made me disappointed
4:23 That's what happened to me with the old deathadder. And even though I always felt like I was gripping the mouse "rotated" it was my best performing mouse... So, gonna give this v3 a try.
same! i noticed it pretty late that this was happening to me. but yeah, this was my best performing mouse too :)
Still rocking the deathadder 3.5g (left-handed edition). But though its showing its age. Cracked shell and sticky clicks. I wish they gave it this new treatment for those really needed a dedicated left handed mouse.
Great thumbnail and title.
Thanks man!
As someone who is waiting for a replacement for a g703 that's lighter, this probably isn't it. It feels too long, I've tried the DA v2 and it felt just okay, nothing special.
The back-mid hump of the g703 is just something else. For now, the NP01 fits me the best, better than the Outset AX.
As I was watching I kept thinking about the pulsar V2 and me having just got that one. I dare say it's better in every way to my super light. Clicks are crisp and tracking is flawless as can be. I mostly play apex and it's made my experience more consistent.
Razer should make a deathadder v3 mini wired with the new shape of the deathaddver v3 but dimensions should be on the da v2 mini. And yes i love the da v2 mini it’s perfect for my handsize 17x10 and gripstyle of relax claw
the larger shape is really good. it's really comfortable for me with large hands. if they make it smaller, then I won't buy it because I already have mice that fit my hand and allow me to palm grip it.
the classic deathadder is the only normal-style mouse that isn't too small for me, and this seems like it would be too small.
I've been a long time viewer of your channel and your video never disappoint. Keep up the great content.
Thank you so much
that coating problem really has me worried personally. I hope it is not like that on the retail copies but i would hazard a guess that they are the same which sucks as i just ordered the white one lol.
Honestly, I was dreaming of a wireless DA for a long time and I was using other mice up until I saw news about the V3. Up until then I saw there was a DA wireless but couldn't justify paying 150 bucks for it. Nowadays im considering but I'm not willing to spend so much on the V3, especially since the shape is so different. I'm thinking of getting the V2 Pro which has the shape I like
An amazing review overall and really hit up amazing job on the details perfect. Stay up.
I have the 8k viper, I like the side buttons on both sides, I dislike the deletion of the top dpi button though, that space feels so empty
Do you notice any digging in to the pad when pushing it hard, thinking of the small mousefeet.
It have ruined mice for me before, I push the mouse down very hard in the pad.
EC sized skates is what have worked for me before
After getting the orochi v2 i have to have swappable batteries now. Ive had to many wireless devices with rechargeable lithium packs that go bad within 1-3 years of owning it. Rechargeable double A's have lasted a lot longer for me especially if you get some nice Panasonic's. Bonus it takes a couple of seconds to swap them
The price is steep however this is where they have me in a bit of a bind. I also have large hands. I've tried a lot of other mice and this mouse alongside the model O and the model S are the only mice that feels comfortable to me. The fact that it uses usb c a plus to me because I travel with my mouse to work or use it at home for work. It will be nice to forget about the cable because all my devices use USB c or lightning. This is highly contingent on the port being able to accept non proprietary cables. The big Downer is that the docking port for the USB receiver is gone I wish they adapted what roccat did with their kone pro air mice where the receiver can be seated inside the mouse for travel purposes. I'm not going to miss the lighting from my dav2. If this is that much of a letdown then I'll return it.
Maybe a silly question, but is that "eggshell" texture feel the same on the black ones? I loved that about the Orochi and is actually my favorite thing about this one.
Forget the mouse Brian where did you get the sick deskmat under the frosted acrylic keeb?
Kinda bummed you didn't get Razer tattoos on your ARM and forehead like "The Teche". Lol, solid honest review as usual 👌
Im getting more of a Razer Mamba vibe with this, instead of the Deathadder.
This is a good mouse, but slightly hard to justify for me personally. I purchased a Deathadder v2x for $45, and I like it a lot for what it is. The matte black finish and no RGB is a design aesthetic I can relate to. I also own a Steelseries Prime Wireless, which gives me a lot of the EC shape, but without the DA front flare. So while I am curious about this mouse, I basically can't justify the price tag. Perhaps wired though. Would be interesting if that came with 8k polling.
Best mouse ever made! Ergonomic, fast clicks, Zowie-esque shape, light-weight baby, good build and great sensor as well as up to 4000hz!
I’ve been using it for 2 weeks now and honestly it might be the best mouse I’ve ever used the grips it comes with just make it 10x better
My Deathadder elite v1 after 6 years of heavy, competitive use started randomly dubble click. I think i'll go with v2
currently switching from gpx superlight and viper v2 pro regularly. ive always missed the shape of my g403 and i did really enjoy ergo mice. will definitely be looking at this when my next paycheck rolls around. been loving razer recently
again, thank you brian for the perfect review as always
Looks like a great mouse and the price seems fair to me given the performance and overall quality. Currently I'm using a Logitech G Pro Superlight with G915 TKL keyboard but will be scooping up the Deathadder V3 Pro and Deathstalker V2 TKL to see how they compare.
how was it, looking for something to replace my g303 cuz my hand been cramming lately
@@zugzwang8761 Both GPX and DAV3 are amazing mice, I prefer the GPX though.
Damn... That's a throw back right there with the MS paper clip 📎
I love that shirt! Ive never used razor since I feel like it isnt for me, I do kinda like their mouses, the shape isnt really as good as lets say a Logitech g pro super light in my opinion(I got like basically same size hands as you, maybe a bit shorter, like an inch or half an inch) Razor is still very good with their mouses.
I have the gpro, super light, final mouse air ninja and a few others I can’t think of at the moment. This v3 is BY FAR my favorite mouse. High key endgame for me. I don’t get the hate at all
When are you going to review that MZ1 Wireless??? That mouse is the best on the market imo. 😎
Even as a competitive player, I don't really see 4K polling rate as a necessity. Plenty of pros still use 1000 or even 500 in big tournaments and still perform well.
Review on point as usual. One question, what keyboard is that? 🧐
Looks similar to the Mamba Wireless which was also a pretty good ergo shape and I snagged one at $80 when it was on sale. I'd like to compare it to the DAv3 when I get a chance as the Mamba Wireless is a bit heavy so it's relegated to mainly productivity usage in my rotation.
I don’t have a Mamba anymore but I think you’re onto something! This feels like it takes elements from both DA and Mamba
@@badseedtech It looks like a welcomed change since I could never get used to the feel of the Deathadder since its inception even though the 1600 DPI sensor of the first model was pretty flawless. Maybe they'll keep the Mamba line as a midweight option where it has a spot to store the wireless receiver as well as having RGB.
I hated the flare it was like it was trying to bend my ring ringer in a non natural way.
New mouse looks nice but the loud clicks are a no go for me.
Can you set the hyperpolling dongle to a lower polling rate, thus saving battery life? Often I just play casual games but I do care for higher polling rates when I go and play competitively.
Awesome review and video! I will proababy pick it up when people start selling it second hand!
shame about the flex side flex and looseness on the sides after a few weeks - heat treating it can apparently fix it lol.
I see you measured 69mm for the ec2 while the zowie measurement is 65/66 at the back
@BadSeed Tech Do you have suggestions for the large hand people then? I like you suggested this is "medium" at 0:89.. just still looking out for big hands
Hello sir, what mousepad are you using? and what mousepad would work well with the deathadder V3?
Please post the setup and gear used so that its easier for people to know and buy
Cannot see any reason to leave behind my Xlite V2 for this.
Where's the mz1 wireless review? I've been bouncing back and forth from my orochi V2 and viper mini and I'm not sure where to go. This is promising with 4k polling rate but I do hear great things about zy's rail
Awesome review, props for helping out a fellow content creator!
Haus is my guy, awesome human
@@badseedtech Respect!
What was that white/clear looking mouse in the start of the video?
Ok i have a serious question: The pulsar xlite wireless has a leftclick thats way too high up for me. Is the leftclick lower on this mouse? Meaning, closer to the mousepad. Thanks
I love the hand washing b-roll lmao
In b4 someone told me to just wash my hands lol
I’m still on the naga pro wireless and I feel like large heavy mouse are going out the window
My 1st gen VU is still going strong coming from a DA when no wireless lightweight version existed, if this VU ever dies I will get the DA V3 Pro, ergo is the way.
I'll stay with the V2 first gaming mouse ever was a deathadder back in like 2009. Just got another v2 for $70. I'm glad they have the USBC charging, but it bugs me that I purchased the wireless charging dock for the v2. Plus I'm a student now so I'd honestly rather have Bluetooth than a dongle. Preferably both. This thing doesn't even hold its own dongle. Iunno. This is Kind of meh for me.
One of my favorite shapes, thanks for the review Big Bearded Lord.
This probably would've been compelling if I didn't already get a Viper Ultimate for $50 on Prime Day. This is a great mouse and perfect for my hand size, but I could never understand why a gaming mouse would be worth more than $100.
That’s right, it’s not (headline). It’s missing the very important DPI buttons on the top of the mouse that far more people use than these companies realize.