I have the 2018 - 4 door rubicon JL and I love it. I actually sold my 2011 5.7L hemi rubicon to get this and I agree with the pebble fender issue but the fenders on the new wranglers are made of aluminum and will not rust it’s just a pain and a dislike everyone has but rusting will not occur but paint chipping will.
I bought a 2020 Overland Gladiator brand new in August of 2020, so I have had it for about 2.5 years now as I write this and have put 30k miles on it. I have loved it. It is a great truck, super capable, I pull my 21ft bass boat with it every summer, have taken it on over a dozen overlanding tips in Colorado and Arkansas, remodeled my house with it (truck beds of dirt, gravel, crushed granite, and trailer loads of lumber), and have it built with a 2.5 inch lift, 35s, bumpers, bed cover and some interior stuff. I had ONE issue with it at 21k miles that is apparently common. I got a alert on the dash that said "Service Stop/Start System" and took it in under warranty and had the have the auxillary battery replaced that controls the stop/start system. But that is the only complaint so far.
Someone might have already said this but, as long as your easy on the break and don’t press it hard, the Jeep won’t turn off. I didn’t even notice this feature and I just took it out to check. I guess I’m light on the break. As long as you just press it enough to stop the Jeep - it won’t turn off.
Your title is 10 things I hate about my Jeep Gladiator so why start out the video by saying you really don't hate them and there is only 6. Maybe change your title to "6 little things that Jeep could have done a better job on?"
If you buy a trail rated jeep of any model it should come stock with full skid plates, screw the option idea. They should also be easily removed for maintenance. When you pay that much this should be a non topic.
They are not really needed. 1st hand experience running easy & moderate (1 to 6 rated) trails. Your LCA brackets WILL scrape. But that is your primary scrape points on a Jeep Gladiator. No need for additional skid plates.
I'm considering buying a Gladiator in 2021. You made some pretty good points. Hopefully the folks at Jeep will listen to the consumer and make some changes. Especially the tow pkg items, or lack thereof, like the absence of a trailer brake, and those non extendable mirrors.
Spare placement not an issue with any of the Gladiators that I ran Rausch Creek green & blue trails with. My stock Willys, a stock Rubicon, & a Sport Max Tow with 2.5" lift & 35's. Spare tire placement never came into play.
Don't need traditional skid plates. From real-world experience at Rausch Creek doing badge of honor trails... protector plates for lower control arm brackets ($90 front set + $90 rear set) would be nice. That is what will hit on moderate & hard off-road trails.
On 1980-1996 Ford pickups the top corner of the taillight sticks out past the body crease just far enough so you can see in the mirrors if they are working. Early years had the fluted lamps that shed dust. These trucks were built to work.
You cant say its entirely a brand new vehicle. Lots of the components are carry over from the Wrangler that has been in production for two years prior. The biggest areas in my opinion of potential issues would be box, rear suspension or maybe rear cab related. Everything else should be pretty smoothed out by now. Zero issues with mine so far. Far cry from my 19’ TRD Pro with had warranty at 750kms for rear diff whine.
The auto start/stop feature has temperature perimeter so it won't turn off when it's above or below a certain temperature to prevent the heat and air from turning off like you said. 👍
@@MaxOverland that is really interesting! I was told by the dealer tech it's supposed to have that, but I never leave mine on anyway so I can't confirm 100%.
Literally none of these problems concern me. I dont do trails. Just some dirt roads and beaches when i go out on my jeep wrangler because, mexico, lots of beaches where i live. So i will deffinitely be picking this one up 2020 or 2021. The second car i owned was a jeep cherokee xj and have always owned jeeps since then. Always wanted a truck, but never wanted to not have a jeep at home. Totally picking the rubicon version for shur.
Yeah I have put a lot of miles on since that video. A lot of stuff doesn't bother me anymore. Absolutely loving the Gladiator!! I put 37's on and got my pcm flashed at the dealer. Im now getting 19 mpg with 37's!!! Cant complain with that.
@@MaxOverland yeah, i understood you and agreed completely on a basically everything if i decided to take it out on the trail. But i havent gone to the dunes or the trail since my xj days in 2012.
I saw a video where someone interviewed one of the Jeep engineers - they were forced into those lights because of the safety package. There was no where else to put the sensors. They didn't like the lights. The lights are spring loaded and will give a bit.
The all underbody skid plates not only protect the critical components on the underside, but the smooth surface also increases gas mileage. It’s a no brainer, but it’s a lot of money for the metal and it reduces the amount of repairs, soo you won’t be seing one anytime soon lol
I feel your pain and I hate to see you so down. Tell you what, I’ll take that old Jeep POS off your hands and trade you even, you don’t need to add any money, for my 1987 Chevy 4x4, it’s got a rebuilt 350 and runs good, you’ll need to add a quart of 20-50 every 500 miles but it’s fine otherwise. You may want to get the transmission looked at in the near future but it’ll get you around at least another 6 months. My wife says she’ll paint it for you , she got some paint on sale at the Dollar Store So We got a deal?
The window switches on the JK never had auto up from the factory only auto down. The JL/JT carried over the same feature so they both also have only auto down.
+Eric Thompson i figured that out from another person lol. I thought it was on my Jk. But was actually my wife’s grand cherokee. Learned a lot after making this video lol
The reason I hate my Gladiator is because after having it a month with less than 800 miles on it, the right front inner axle seal started leaking. I took it to the dealer for repair over a week ago and they can't fix it. They cannot get the part from Chrysler. Chrysler engineers wanted them to send pictures and have yet to respond back. This vehicle has not been off the hard road or been through as much as a mud puddle yet. I can't believe there is such little support from Chrysler on the Gladiator that they were so proud of. I loved it for the month I had it.
I get the first part of this comment. But the BS assuming my JT has not been off road is way off base. Check out this video and there’s also lots of other times that I wasn’t really able to film. ua-cam.com/video/NoxiFbxPirA/v-deo.html
I have the Mojave, which is supposed to have more skidplates, I put a winch on first thing so your sparetire problem would be solved by pulling forward, but i agree with the start and stop issue and the front fender gravel deal.Isn't there a 110v outlet on the backside of your console? I had to install locking hood clamps ,cause anyone could steal the battery.
With the Auto start stop, they made it so if you unplug the hood latch sensor it is a free fix that makes the start stop function stay off when you turn the car back on than.
Talking about the fenders rusting because of debris between it and the flair. The majority of the truck body forward of the bed, which is steel, except for the A and B pillar are made of aluminum.
For me the #1 issue is not being able to update the computer options without going to a dealer. This is a right to repair issue 100%. I can't add the Aux, upgrade the factory radio, add a defroster, etc.. without taking it in for them to update the computer.
I just got my 2020 Gladiator. Re "On/Off" (actually "Start/Stop"). I'm confused by your comment. After starting the Jeep it's only necessary to press that "Start/Stop" defeat button once. It will remain active until the vehicle is shut off. You make it sound like it is continually coming back on. Otherwise, a good video and I agree with your every other comment(s), such as lack of the 120VAC outlet, which I also had in my '14 JKU.
+Bryan Phelan sorry in looking back I could of explained it differently. It’s only an issue when your at a couple off-road parks we have here in Michigan. Sometimes your in tight slow spots and turning the truck on and off in different parts of the park. So trying to remember to hit the switch all the time is a pain. It would be nice if it was a permanent off toggle switch.
It's illegal to cover the 3rd brake light, but you can always adapt it because a tire carrier would be cool to have. Plus you would have to adapt the rear camera. Of course skid plates should be a option, why would Jeep give up $ to other 4x4 companies. Just like before Unlimiteds you had to go too another customizer for 4 doors and now finally FCA is offering a 392 V8 instead of doing it yourself. Will they ever learn? I have a longer cord to plug in back to use the 110.
Thanks. As someone considering one as my next rig among some other trucks these are helpful to know. I wonder if someone will come out with a swing tailgate for the spare. Yeah, you’ll have to open it to lower the tailgate and yeah, you won’t be able to put the tailgate half down to carry plywood, but for those of us using them for an offroad veh we probably don’t care. I know I am putting a GoFast Camper on back of whatever I get and being able to get the spare from outta the bed (which is where’s it’s going otherwise cause I can’t have it below) would be nice.
+DADventureTV I think some companies have already created a couple. But more and more accessories are coming out for the gladiator. I plan to mount it under my bed rack. As long as it clears my fridge. We shall see when that time comes.
Jeep is like owning Harley Davidson, buy it as is, & add or minus items on them & get it to where you want it, but I agree on most items you described to be redone, however its the first year & if Jeep is smart? they'll address these issues & fix them,
Auto stop feature... I'm driving a Gladiator rental right now. I've noticed with the transmission in manual that the auto stop is deactivated. Off-road, wouldn't you use manual over auto, I think I would.
Sometimes just depends on what your doing. It’s not as annoying now that I’ve been driving it more. Was still pretty fresh at that time. I turn it off when off road.
Yeah I know my head is cut off in the fender clip lol. Didn't realize it till I started editing. And its quite flustering that 4K take so long to process! The video is 4K after doing some research. It takes a couple hours after the video uploads for it to switch to 4K res. But anywho thats my rant for the day. What are some things you think Jeep could of done better with?
The trailer mirrors shouldn't be that big a gripe. After all, it IS only a mid-size truck, and most half-ton trucks don't even come with tow mirrors. I towed a small enclosed trailer (5x8 inside dimensions) 800 miles and didn't really have any visibility issues. Longer and wider trailers sure, but that's what the aftermarket community is for. There's options out there, and Jeep probably figured it wasn't worth the extra money to develop new mirrors for a truck that has interchangeable doors with the JL. The 110V up front just got moved to the back of the center console, so also not THAT big of a deal. It's 12in farther back. My biggest gripe with the truck is the soft top rain channel. It's like trying to avoid stepping through a waterfall when getting in and out of the front seat when it's raining.
+Edwin Kriegel holy crap!! 😯 I didn’t realize it was behind the center council!!! 😂 Learning new stuff about this thing all the time! I suppose I don’t sit back there so that’s why I didn’t see it. The tow mirrors was one of the things a couple people said in the Facebook group. So that’s why it ended up in there. But I agree aftermarket companies will be making stuff for it.
When you get and I'm sure will, A winch capable bumper, JEEP Mopar has running lights that will melt the plastic covers if you forget to take them off.Snow? What Snow!
All of those are so far down the list. The biggest issue is the automatic in your jeep. If you are worried about a tree limb hitting your tail light the fender will be taken off first or even your mirror before your tail light, heck you will end up with the paint scratched up.
I’m actually really annoyed with the drive train. Now that I’ve had it longer and wheeled more in 4L. It does really funny stuff under load. Throttle response is horrible. If you’re spinning with the lockers engaged in for low and hit the break the transfer case pushes you right through the brakes. There’s definitely some things they can improve on.
@@MaxOverland Because that is against the EPA regulations . STOP START lowers the fuel consumption overall which allows companies to offer these gas hogs
Great video hitting real issues. Looking at trading my 2020 Outback XT for one. I have a 2008 JKU and I miss driving a Jeep too much. These look very luxurious
I bought a 2020 Overland Gladiator brand new in August of 2020, so I have had it for about 2.5 years now as I write this and have put 30k miles on it. I have loved it. It is a great truck, super capable, I pull my 21ft bass boat with it every summer, have taken it on over a dozen overlanding tips in Colorado and Arkansas, remodeled my house with it (truck beds of dirt, gravel, crushed granite, and trailer loads of lumber), and have it built with a 2.5 inch lift, 35s, bumpers, bed cover and some interior stuff. I had ONE issue with it at 21k miles that is apparently common. I got a alert on the dash that said "Service Stop/Start System" and took it in under warranty and had the have the auxillary battery replaced that controls the stop/start system. But that is the only complaint so far.
MrDrewgle Obviously you don’t know me. This is the 4th truck I have owned. But this is more than a truck. It’s ment to be an offroad truck. Yes there are full-size rigs that have off-road capabilities. But this one is specifically designed to go offroad and get into some pretty serious wheeling. So all I said was it would be nice to have different option. 👍
@@MaxOverland so where do you want them to put the spare mounted in the bed ? You knew all these complaints when you bought it you shouldn't have bought it. You buy it then you complain lol
Was thinking the same thing. But this vehicle is also heavily marketed as an offroad vehicle. So it makes no sense to have it down there like he points out.
Ed Bowe Jr not sure right now. I may look for an old military trailer. If not then I’ll do some research on some of the companies that have them. Are you running one?
Oh they are on my list now. I hated the leather seats.... I just bought a custom ordered 2021 ecodiesel jtr. Ordered it with the cloth seats. They are much more comfortable.
@@MaxOverland sweet. That's what I'm thinking of getting. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to Jeeps though. Trying to learn. I appreciate your honest opinions.
JKU does not have auto UP windows just down. I just went outside to see if there was a feature I hadn't heard about after owning 5 JK's. Nope mine don't go auto UP.
+SaintNick71 I swear mine had it. But now that you make me think about it harder. It was actually my wife’s Grand Cherokee! 😂 thanks for calling me out! Lol fine we’ll that should put that in lol!
Expensive to replace my items when your wheeling a new JT Rubicon is a bit silly. The entire truck is overpriced and not ideal as a trail rig. It’s nice but not practical for the trails.
You get a discount for being a Tread Lightly member. Wheelspin = losing points on offroad competition. Full stability control delete would be opposed to corporate philosophy & good offroad manners.
I don’t believe the Stop/Start is mandated. Fuel mileage is mandated and companies do this to show an artificially better city MPG. Please correct me if I am wrong.
They could be lying to cram it down our throats. I’m sure the Shelby, the Hellcat, the Corvette Z- 51 on “Sport” and all stick shifts do not have this. Five years ago the local NPR station (yeah I know but they played great music) was advertising to “shut off your engine if it’s idling more than ten seconds”. Air head libtards ate this crap up and even had “idle free” stickers. My opinion is it was in response to newly wealthy Black people waiting to pick up their kids at school running the A/C.Gotta keep the peasants in their place.
Look up the tazer JL allows you to permanently disengage the auto stop start and stability control as well as many other things like tire calibration and disconnect sway even in 2wd!
+Buck Johnson I did see that! I think I may be getting one. It would be nice to disconnect the sway bar in 2wd. Out on trails you don’t always have to be in 4wd. But would be a smoother ride if the sway bar stayed disconnected.
Chris Maddox I don’t miss that much about it. Honestly can’t think of anything I miss. Maybe just having the back area to store stuff. But once I get a topper on the gladiator that won’t matter. They are badass for sure!
Concerning the 'auto up' on your electric windows... It's a safety feature and I doubt you find auto up on any vehicle anymore. Not researched it but I believe it is disallowed. The thinking is that with auto up a kid in the back seat or your dog could have head out window and the auto up would seriously injure them before you had time to shut it off.
Totally false! Most new cars have auto up with safety built in, if the windows feel any resistance they stop and auto up becomes disabled. You have to follow some of procedure to re enable it. Even my ‘18 mustang had this feature.
To the left of the hazard light button there is a traction control button. Push it and your are free to do some great donuts in 2H. Heater and air DO NOT stop when the start/stop is on. However it is annoying. Disconnect the second hood sensor and that will disable it but will leave a dummy light on.
I’ve owned plenty of trucks. But this is a Jeep! We went out wheeling last Tuesday. I put my spare back under the truck. The 35” tires sticks down pretty far. It made me get hung up! So yeah it’s probably fine to have a 33” tire under there. But Jeep made it so a 35” could fit. And it did get in the way just like I figured it would. 👍
One thing I dislike on the Gladiator and the JL Jeep lineup are the wavy door skins. They are flat door panels and they managed to put waves in them after they are assembled. So bad looking
+RockandRoad 4x4 Parts & Accessories I was driving down past a dealer overflow lot and saw a black sport model. That’s all I noticed! The wave was horrible! My white one is not noticeable. But I know what you talking about. It was really ugly!
The Fox shocks suck. 21 Mojave with terrible creaking sound. Front shocks being replaced under warranty. On back order from China of course. Dealer said this isn't the first set of duds they have replaced. $3200 Canadian each plus labour.
+coupe347 I went out to an off-road part in northern Michigan. Almost punched a hole through the gas tank skid. Just isnt thick enough to handle a hard hit. I get the saving weight. But at least have it an option to get a flat skid plate system from the factory.
I bet they can’t. Heavier components changes the MPG. Man I’ve drug my jeeps across all kinds of rock, including granite...not saying the skids are great but they have held up quite well for the abuse.
Jimmy Faceshooter mine was not overpriced. I paid 52k for a fully loaded rubicon. That’s the same as buying a fully loaded JL. The launch editions were overpriced. And anytime a dealer “upgrades” one they mark it up way too high. But you can still find good deals.
I have the led upgrade and when I have them on people usually flash me with their high beams as if I had my high beams on but I don’t, it’s literally something I can’t do anything about and it bothers me a lot
@@MaxOverland It's the choice between paying the mortgage or buying a Gladiator. My wife just told me she'd leave me if I bought it, so it's starting to look more like the gladiator.
Max Overland my thought is they know the aftermarket solves this problem for them for free, they don’t have to spends 100s of thousands doing wind research. That’s why there’s so many open slots all over the frame. It’s set up so people can go as wild or crazy as they want.
skid plates r way to few or tiny or rubi fair grip& LEDs headlights not making heat enough to keep crap scooped out light from collecting snow is another good pnt. Should not scoop but b smooth or eye ball rounded. Some LED burn stupid bright hot but they blind ppl so not going to happen.
The Jeep auto start/stop is terribly designed then. My mom's Lexus ES, my aunt's Benz C-class, and all Land Rover Jaguars when the engine turns off the heat/AC still functions as normal
Doing donuts sounds a bit juvenile. I rented one for a couple days in COLORADO, took it up for a day trip to mu cabin. Had 6-8 “ in my drive way and some snow on the county road on the way... I thought the gladiator tracked in the snow horribly, fish tailed even with light throttle. I own a Yukon and a International scout which handle the snow much better. Must be the light rear end in the Jeep. I am sure it is is very capable on the trail and rocks, but bad in the snow....very comfortable otherwise...sits well... just my .02....
I have the 2018 - 4 door rubicon JL and I love it. I actually sold my 2011 5.7L hemi rubicon to get this and I agree with the pebble fender issue but the fenders on the new wranglers are made of aluminum and will not rust it’s just a pain and a dislike everyone has but rusting will not occur but paint chipping will.
Thanks for the info. I didn’t realize they were aluminum! Good to know!
I bought a 2020 Overland Gladiator brand new in August of 2020, so I have had it for about 2.5 years now as I write this and have put 30k miles on it. I have loved it. It is a great truck, super capable, I pull my 21ft bass boat with it every summer, have taken it on over a dozen overlanding tips in Colorado and Arkansas, remodeled my house with it (truck beds of dirt, gravel, crushed granite, and trailer loads of lumber), and have it built with a 2.5 inch lift, 35s, bumpers, bed cover and some interior stuff. I had ONE issue with it at 21k miles that is apparently common. I got a alert on the dash that said "Service Stop/Start System" and took it in under warranty and had the have the auxillary battery replaced that controls the stop/start system. But that is the only complaint so far.
Someone might have already said this but, as long as your easy on the break and don’t press it hard, the Jeep won’t turn off. I didn’t even notice this feature and I just took it out to check. I guess I’m light on the break. As long as you just press it enough to stop the Jeep - it won’t turn off.
bjmyjm8 I’ll have to try that next time I’m out!
Your title is 10 things I hate about my Jeep Gladiator so why start out the video by saying you really don't hate them and there is only 6. Maybe change your title to "6 little things that Jeep could have done a better job on?"
If you buy a trail rated jeep of any model it should come stock with full skid plates, screw the option idea. They should also be easily removed for maintenance. When you pay that much this should be a non topic.
I totally agree!!!
Rodney Avery
Some jeep models cost as much as many models of Jaguar..... WTF?
But “trail rated” is a made up term. I can see saying the Rubicon should have them, but not because of some meaningless badge
They are not really needed. 1st hand experience running easy & moderate (1 to 6 rated) trails. Your LCA brackets WILL scrape. But that is your primary scrape points on a Jeep Gladiator. No need for additional skid plates.
I'm considering buying a Gladiator in 2021. You made some pretty good points. Hopefully the folks at Jeep will listen to the consumer and make some changes. Especially the tow pkg items, or lack thereof, like the absence of a trailer brake, and those non extendable mirrors.
More than half of the things you have mentioned aren't really cons for others, but infact are pros. So it's personal preference.
Oh for sure personal preference! Everyone has different pros and cons.
The auto stop start doesn't activate if it's too hot or too cold for the ac or heat to keep up - and both still run while it's off.
Spare placement not an issue with any of the Gladiators that I ran Rausch Creek green & blue trails with. My stock Willys, a stock Rubicon, & a Sport Max Tow with 2.5" lift & 35's. Spare tire placement never came into play.
The auto start stop turns off while in 4L. So it won’t turn off while on an obstacle.
Don't need traditional skid plates. From real-world experience at Rausch Creek doing badge of honor trails... protector plates for lower control arm brackets ($90 front set + $90 rear set) would be nice. That is what will hit on moderate & hard off-road trails.
On 1980-1996 Ford pickups the top corner of the taillight sticks out past the body crease just far enough so you can see in the mirrors if they are working. Early years had the fluted lamps that shed dust. These trucks were built to work.
Auto stop-start is the 1st thing I disabled when I brought my JL home. Pulled the actuator under the hood - done deal.
I’ve seen that mod. Did it affect anything else?
I love first adopters. They get to iron out the issues for manufactures for the rest of us who know better to never buy the first edition of anything.
You cant say its entirely a brand new vehicle. Lots of the components are carry over from the Wrangler that has been in production for two years prior. The biggest areas in my opinion of potential issues would be box, rear suspension or maybe rear cab related. Everything else should be pretty smoothed out by now. Zero issues with mine so far. Far cry from my 19’ TRD Pro with had warranty at 750kms for rear diff whine.
Excellent vid. I've consered the Taco, ZR2 and for me it'll be the Gladiator.
Ya, the start/stop was super annoying on my compass trail hawk. Luckily it stopped working 😃
Cronus Pinkerton I’m seeing more and more people with start/stop failures. I’m not fixing mine if it breaks!
I've yet to take my trailhawk in. 46k strong with no issues.
The auto start/stop feature has temperature perimeter so it won't turn off when it's above or below a certain temperature to prevent the heat and air from turning off like you said. 👍
+Austin Sellars hmm that’s interesting. I’ll look more into that. It was 19 degrees the other day and it was still turning off. Wonder when it stops.
@@MaxOverland that is really interesting! I was told by the dealer tech it's supposed to have that, but I never leave mine on anyway so I can't confirm 100%.
Austin Sellars yup
1. No power
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Wait for the 6.4... it’s coming... and you are “Golden”.
Literally none of these problems concern me. I dont do trails. Just some dirt roads and beaches when i go out on my jeep wrangler because, mexico, lots of beaches where i live. So i will deffinitely be picking this one up 2020 or 2021. The second car i owned was a jeep cherokee xj and have always owned jeeps since then. Always wanted a truck, but never wanted to not have a jeep at home. Totally picking the rubicon version for shur.
Yeah I have put a lot of miles on since that video. A lot of stuff doesn't bother me anymore. Absolutely loving the Gladiator!! I put 37's on and got my pcm flashed at the dealer. Im now getting 19 mpg with 37's!!! Cant complain with that.
@@MaxOverland yeah, i understood you and agreed completely on a basically everything if i decided to take it out on the trail. But i havent gone to the dunes or the trail since my xj days in 2012.
Video titled “10 Things I Hate About My....” immediately becomes “6 Little Dislikes About A Truck I Really Love” in the first minute...LOL
I saw a video where someone interviewed one of the Jeep engineers - they were forced into those lights because of the safety package. There was no where else to put the sensors. They didn't like the lights. The lights are spring loaded and will give a bit.
Well thats good to know about them being spring loaded! Thanks for sharing.
What? Wheres the spring?
@@jav_eee If I remember correctly its part of the screws that hold the lights on, I think
The all underbody skid plates not only protect the critical components on the underside, but the smooth surface also increases gas mileage. It’s a no brainer, but it’s a lot of money for the metal and it reduces the amount of repairs, soo you won’t be seing one anytime soon lol
Thanks man you saved my life your video was helpful. And it mande me realize that I don't need a gladiator. Blessings
I feel your pain and I hate to see you so down. Tell you what, I’ll take that old Jeep POS off your hands and trade you even, you don’t need to add any money, for my 1987 Chevy 4x4, it’s got a rebuilt 350 and runs good, you’ll need to add a quart of 20-50 every 500 miles but it’s fine otherwise. You may want to get the transmission looked at in the near future but it’ll get you around at least another 6 months. My wife says she’ll paint it for you , she got some paint on sale at the Dollar Store
So
We got a deal?
The window switches on the JK never had auto up from the factory only auto down. The JL/JT carried over the same feature so they both also have only auto down.
+Eric Thompson i figured that out from another person lol. I thought it was on my Jk. But was actually my wife’s grand cherokee. Learned a lot after making this video lol
So during this video you mentioned links in the description.... But I don't see them
The reason I hate my Gladiator is because after having it a month with less than 800 miles on it, the right front inner axle seal started leaking. I took it to the dealer for repair over a week ago and they can't fix it. They cannot get the part from Chrysler. Chrysler engineers wanted them to send pictures and have yet to respond back. This vehicle has not been off the hard road or been through as much as a mud puddle yet. I can't believe there is such little support from Chrysler on the Gladiator that they were so proud of. I loved it for the month I had it.
Hmmmm, sounds rather trollish.
I get the first part of this comment. But the BS assuming my JT has not been off road is way off base. Check out this video and there’s also lots of other times that I wasn’t really able to film.
ua-cam.com/video/NoxiFbxPirA/v-deo.html
I have the Mojave, which is supposed to have more skidplates, I put a winch on first thing so your sparetire problem would be solved by pulling forward, but i agree with the start and stop issue and the front fender gravel deal.Isn't there a 110v outlet on the backside of your console? I had to install locking hood clamps ,cause anyone could steal the battery.
Doesn't take much effort to turn off the stop/start feature. Even if you forget it is just a switch away. Not a big deal.
With the Auto start stop, they made it so if you unplug the hood latch sensor it is a free fix that makes the start stop function stay off when you turn the car back on than.
Talking about the fenders rusting because of debris between it and the flair. The majority of the truck body forward of the bed, which is steel, except for the A and B pillar are made of aluminum.
Yeah I did end up finding that out. Which I great that they did that.
I love my 2018 Rubicon jlu and 2021 ecodiesl gladiator Rubicon. Both are awesome
All excellent points and I agree with you. Great video.
Thank you sir! We love them. But there’s always room for improvement!
I have an answer to all of your "why"'s. FIAT
For me the #1 issue is not being able to update the computer options without going to a dealer. This is a right to repair issue 100%. I can't add the Aux, upgrade the factory radio, add a defroster, etc.. without taking it in for them to update the computer.
I just got my 2020 Gladiator. Re "On/Off" (actually "Start/Stop"). I'm confused by your comment. After starting the Jeep it's only necessary to press that "Start/Stop" defeat button once. It will remain active until the vehicle is shut off. You make it sound like it is continually coming back on. Otherwise, a good video and I agree with your every other comment(s), such as lack of the 120VAC outlet, which I also had in my '14 JKU.
+Bryan Phelan sorry in looking back I could of explained it differently. It’s only an issue when your at a couple off-road parks we have here in Michigan. Sometimes your in tight slow spots and turning the truck on and off in different parts of the park. So trying to remember to hit the switch all the time is a pain. It would be nice if it was a permanent off toggle switch.
Bryan Phelan 120v outlet is in the back of middle console next to the cup holders in front of the passengers
If I'm not mistaken the on/off turns off then you put the jeep in 4Lo
Steven Saldana I believe you are correct.
It's illegal to cover the 3rd brake light, but you can always adapt it because a tire carrier would be cool to have. Plus you would have to adapt the rear camera. Of course skid plates should be a option, why would Jeep give up $ to other 4x4 companies. Just like before Unlimiteds you had to go too another customizer for 4 doors and now finally FCA is offering a 392 V8 instead of doing it yourself. Will they ever learn? I have a longer cord to plug in back to use the 110.
Thanks. As someone considering one as my next rig among some other trucks these are helpful to know. I wonder if someone will come out with a swing tailgate for the spare. Yeah, you’ll have to open it to lower the tailgate and yeah, you won’t be able to put the tailgate half down to carry plywood, but for those of us using them for an offroad veh we probably don’t care. I know I am putting a GoFast Camper on back of whatever I get and being able to get the spare from outta the bed (which is where’s it’s going otherwise cause I can’t have it below) would be nice.
+DADventureTV I think some companies have already created a couple. But more and more accessories are coming out for the gladiator. I plan to mount it under my bed rack. As long as it clears my fridge. We shall see when that time comes.
That spare tire would look cool on the roof
Jeep is like owning Harley Davidson, buy it as is, & add or minus items on them & get it to where you want it, but I agree on most items you described to be redone, however its the first year & if Jeep is smart? they'll address these issues & fix them,
Thanks!
Auto stop feature... I'm driving a Gladiator rental right now. I've noticed with the transmission in manual that the auto stop is deactivated. Off-road, wouldn't you use manual over auto, I think I would.
Sometimes just depends on what your doing. It’s not as annoying now that I’ve been driving it more. Was still pretty fresh at that time. I turn it off when off road.
I call the Auto Stop/Start button the "Avengers" button :D
Hahaha Why do you call it that?
@@MaxOverland It reminds me of the Avenger's logo. Hahaha
Check this out. Hahaha
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+Red Jeep Gladiator duh! 🤦🏻♂️ Totally makes sence! Lol
Where's the link to the fix for the on/off? You said it would be down in the description.
+Charles Eye Sorry I apologize forgot the put that on in there. I’ll get it added!
Yeah I know my head is cut off in the fender clip lol. Didn't realize it till I started editing. And its quite flustering that 4K take so long to process! The video is 4K after doing some research. It takes a couple hours after the video uploads for it to switch to 4K res. But anywho thats my rant for the day. What are some things you think Jeep could of done better with?
The trailer mirrors shouldn't be that big a gripe. After all, it IS only a mid-size truck, and most half-ton trucks don't even come with tow mirrors. I towed a small enclosed trailer (5x8 inside dimensions) 800 miles and didn't really have any visibility issues. Longer and wider trailers sure, but that's what the aftermarket community is for. There's options out there, and Jeep probably figured it wasn't worth the extra money to develop new mirrors for a truck that has interchangeable doors with the JL.
The 110V up front just got moved to the back of the center console, so also not THAT big of a deal. It's 12in farther back.
My biggest gripe with the truck is the soft top rain channel. It's like trying to avoid stepping through a waterfall when getting in and out of the front seat when it's raining.
+Edwin Kriegel holy crap!! 😯 I didn’t realize it was behind the center council!!! 😂 Learning new stuff about this thing all the time! I suppose I don’t sit back there so that’s why I didn’t see it. The tow mirrors was one of the things a couple people said in the Facebook group. So that’s why it ended up in there. But I agree aftermarket companies will be making stuff for it.
@@MaxOverland HAHAHA!! I didn't realize you didn't even know the outlet was still in the truck. That's hilarious. Glad I could help.
+Edwin Kriegel well we don’t have to tell everyone! 😂 Learn something new everyday!
When you get and I'm sure will, A winch capable bumper, JEEP Mopar has running lights that will melt the plastic covers if you forget to take them off.Snow? What Snow!
All of those are so far down the list. The biggest issue is the automatic in your jeep. If you are worried about a tree limb hitting your tail light the fender will be taken off first or even your mirror before your tail light, heck you will end up with the paint scratched up.
I’m actually really annoyed with the drive train. Now that I’ve had it longer and wheeled more in 4L. It does really funny stuff under load. Throttle response is horrible. If you’re spinning with the lockers engaged in for low and hit the break the transfer case pushes you right through the brakes. There’s definitely some things they can improve on.
I like my friend’s Porsche Macan S the button to disable the stop/start stay active after shutting off the engine until you un-push the button.
+Justin Young see! Why couldn’t Jeep do that!....
@@MaxOverland Because that is against the EPA regulations . STOP START lowers the fuel consumption overall which allows companies to offer these gas hogs
Great video hitting real issues. Looking at trading my 2020 Outback XT for one. I have a 2008 JKU and I miss driving a Jeep too much. These look very luxurious
I just got a 21 gladiator 80th anniversary and coming from a 2018 wrangler 2 door it’s a huge upgrade. I love it
I bought a 2020 Overland Gladiator brand new in August of 2020, so I have had it for about 2.5 years now as I write this and have put 30k miles on it. I have loved it. It is a great truck, super capable, I pull my 21ft bass boat with it every summer, have taken it on over a dozen overlanding tips in Colorado and Arkansas, remodeled my house with it (truck beds of dirt, gravel, crushed granite, and trailer loads of lumber), and have it built with a 2.5 inch lift, 35s, bumpers, bed cover and some interior stuff. I had ONE issue with it at 21k miles that is apparently common. I got a alert on the dash that said "Service Stop/Start System" and took it in under warranty and had the have the auxillary battery replaced that controls the stop/start system. But that is the only complaint so far.
Great video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
obviously you never had a truck. all truck have the spare under the bed.
MrDrewgle Obviously you don’t know me. This is the 4th truck I have owned. But this is more than a truck. It’s ment to be an offroad truck. Yes there are full-size rigs that have off-road capabilities. But this one is specifically designed to go offroad and get into some pretty serious wheeling. So all I said was it would be nice to have different option. 👍
@@MaxOverland so where do you want them to put the spare mounted in the bed ? You knew all these complaints when you bought it you shouldn't have bought it. You buy it then you complain lol
@@wildwoody20 not so much a complaint as something Jeep could've done better. Why bag on the dude?
Was thinking the same thing. But this vehicle is also heavily marketed as an offroad vehicle. So it makes no sense to have it down there like he points out.
What overland trailer are you going with?
Ed Bowe Jr not sure right now. I may look for an old military trailer. If not then I’ll do some research on some of the companies that have them. Are you running one?
How do you keep the rocks out of the space between the body and fenders?
+Justin P
ua-cam.com/video/OT7qth6Dh34/v-deo.html wayalife did a good video on it!
Surprised the seats weren't on your list. They are mediocre at best.
Oh they are on my list now. I hated the leather seats.... I just bought a custom ordered 2021 ecodiesel jtr. Ordered it with the cloth seats. They are much more comfortable.
@@MaxOverland sweet. That's what I'm thinking of getting. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to Jeeps though. Trying to learn. I appreciate your honest opinions.
@@Brad-RB absolutely brother! I’ll have more diesel videos coming out soon. It’s a great option!
@@MaxOverland subscribed! You must have confidence in the redesigned ecodiesel?
I think the auto start situation was purposely done so the next years edition will have the upgrade fix at a higher price🤔🤔🤔
JKU does not have auto UP windows just down. I just went outside to see if there was a feature I hadn't heard about after owning 5 JK's. Nope mine don't go auto UP.
+SaintNick71 I swear mine had it. But now that you make me think about it harder. It was actually my wife’s Grand Cherokee! 😂 thanks for calling me out! Lol fine we’ll that should put that in lol!
Expensive to replace my items when your wheeling a new JT Rubicon is a bit silly. The entire truck is overpriced and not ideal as a trail rig. It’s nice but not practical for the trails.
And still no trailer brake on the jeep
+Daniel Garcia yeah that one baffles me. If it’s a truck why not offer that feature. My wife’s Durango has a damn brake controller. Lol
Totally inexcusable
Its coming for 2021
What size tires are you running in this video?
You get a discount for being a Tread Lightly member. Wheelspin = losing points on offroad competition. Full stability control delete would be opposed to corporate philosophy & good offroad manners.
I don’t believe the Stop/Start is mandated. Fuel mileage is mandated and companies do this to show an artificially better city MPG. Please correct me if I am wrong.
+sammolloy1 Everything I have heard from dealers is that they’ve been told it’s mandatory on all vehicles by the year 2020.
They could be lying to cram it down our throats. I’m sure the Shelby, the Hellcat, the Corvette Z- 51 on “Sport” and all stick shifts do not have this. Five years ago the local NPR station (yeah I know but they played great music) was advertising to “shut off your engine if it’s idling more than ten seconds”. Air head libtards ate this crap up and even had “idle free” stickers. My opinion is it was in response to newly wealthy Black people waiting to pick up their kids at school running the A/C.Gotta keep the peasants in their place.
Look up the tazer JL allows you to permanently disengage the auto stop start and stability control as well as many other things like tire calibration and disconnect sway even in 2wd!
+Buck Johnson I did see that! I think I may be getting one. It would be nice to disconnect the sway bar in 2wd. Out on trails you don’t always have to be in 4wd. But would be a smoother ride if the sway bar stayed disconnected.
Do you miss your JK? How much better is the Gladiator? Thinking about trading my 15 rubicon
Chris Maddox I don’t miss that much about it. Honestly can’t think of anything I miss. Maybe just having the back area to store stuff. But once I get a topper on the gladiator that won’t matter. They are badass for sure!
the LED headlight is a real safety issue very dangerous I have had three real world issues here in Lake Tahoe during a snow storm. NOT GOOD
pine nut patriot can you elaborate on what happened?
Concerning the 'auto up' on your electric windows... It's a safety feature and I doubt you find auto up on any vehicle anymore. Not researched it but I believe it is disallowed. The thinking is that with auto up a kid in the back seat or your dog could have head out window and the auto up would seriously injure them before you had time to shut it off.
Ron Cameron I have auto up-down on both driver and passenger front windows on my 17 Ram 1500.
Not true 2019 ranger and 2020 ford rangers have auto up and down for drivers window.
Totally false! Most new cars have auto up with safety built in, if the windows feel any resistance they stop and auto up becomes disabled. You have to follow some of procedure to re enable it. Even my ‘18 mustang had this feature.
Rusty plastic fenders?
To the left of the hazard light button there is a traction control button. Push it and your are free to do some great donuts in 2H.
Heater and air DO NOT stop when the start/stop is on. However it is annoying. Disconnect the second hood sensor and that will disable it but will leave a dummy light on.
Sorry just push it on/off.
This one time at band camp I blew out a tire.
Anybody who’s confused as to why a spare is under the bed has never has a pickup before. Putting it in the bed takes up cargo space. It’s a truck.
I’ve owned plenty of trucks. But this is a Jeep! We went out wheeling last Tuesday. I put my spare back under the truck. The 35” tires sticks down pretty far. It made me get hung up! So yeah it’s probably fine to have a 33” tire under there. But Jeep made it so a 35” could fit. And it did get in the way just like I figured it would. 👍
“The first one and the main one…now these aren’t in any particular order…”🤔
Title: Things I Hate
Video: These aren't things I hate, just dislikes.
One thing I dislike on the Gladiator and the JL Jeep lineup are the wavy door skins. They are flat door panels and they managed to put waves in them after they are assembled. So bad looking
+RockandRoad 4x4 Parts & Accessories I was driving down past a dealer overflow lot and saw a black sport model. That’s all I noticed! The wave was horrible! My white one is not noticeable. But I know what you talking about. It was really ugly!
Ive noticed that also on all JLs.
The Fox shocks suck. 21 Mojave with terrible creaking sound. Front shocks being replaced under warranty. On back order from China of course. Dealer said this isn't the first set of duds they have replaced. $3200 Canadian each plus labour.
You have a 110 outlet in the backseat at the bottom of the armrest
Jeep Guy85 I know someone else pointed that out and I was like oh shit! Lol
@@MaxOverland Oh okay. Just trying to help out
+Jeep Guy85 appreciate it!! 🙌
You don't get more skid plates because of weight issues. I've been rock crawling my JKUR with stock plates for 8yrs without a problem.
+coupe347 I went out to an off-road part in northern Michigan. Almost punched a hole through the gas tank skid. Just isnt thick enough to handle a hard hit. I get the saving weight. But at least have it an option to get a flat skid plate system from the factory.
I bet they can’t. Heavier components changes the MPG. Man I’ve drug my jeeps across all kinds of rock, including granite...not saying the skids are great but they have held up quite well for the abuse.
It’s not EPA regulated! My ‘20 4Runner does not have it.
1. I hate that it's $20k overpriced
Jimmy Faceshooter mine was not overpriced. I paid 52k for a fully loaded rubicon. That’s the same as buying a fully loaded JL. The launch editions were overpriced. And anytime a dealer “upgrades” one they mark it up way too high. But you can still find good deals.
Does all of this still apply for the 6.4 Hemi?
I have the led upgrade and when I have them on people usually flash me with their high beams as if I had my high beams on but I don’t, it’s literally something I can’t do anything about and it bothers me a lot
What I don't like is that I don't have one!!
+Pennypack MTB when are you going to go buy one?!?
@@MaxOverland It's the choice between paying the mortgage or buying a Gladiator. My wife just told me she'd leave me if I bought it, so it's starting to look more like the gladiator.
$50k for a Jeep with a bed is a little much. Then again the current wrangler is up there in price.
They make a wire harness that you can install that will bypass that.
I figured someone would come out with something. Lots of aftermarket stuff coming down the pipe for the Gladiators.
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@@williamwalsh3882 $471.00 to disable the auto engine off. Hell my finger works just fine when I get in.
@@HooyahVideo Thats what happens guys your age ,just as long as she lets you get your finger in
Rode Disneyland's Teacups, once, when I was 6, then never again. No appeal to doing donuts, LOL.
😂 hahah that’s funny.
Good video
Thank you sir!
Weight limitations and MPG standards are the reason why full underbody skids aren’t offered
+Smarter Than You what if they designed an aluminum flat underbody system?
Max Overland my thought is they know the aftermarket solves this problem for them for free, they don’t have to spends 100s of thousands doing wind research. That’s why there’s so many open slots all over the frame. It’s set up so people can go as wild or crazy as they want.
@@MaxOverland Do you not think they are expensive enough . If you need additional skid plates which most people dont you add them yourself .
Diablo or edge tune should be able to get rid of that traction control
I was looking at the tazer also. Would be nice to get rid of that and be able to lock the rear end in 2wd!
Spare tire location is a non issue IMO. Otherwise most of the others I agree with
I agree with you now. Lol 😂 I put it back under the truck. Part of me wishes I would of waited longer to make that video.
Wouldn’t need any aftermarket suppliers according to you.
GOOD VIDEO .....VERY GOOD POINTS ESPECIALLY THE RUBICON MODEL SHOULD COME WITH FULL SKID PLATE FROM THE FACTORY 6061 ALUMINUM
+larry pelchat thanks! Right I agree! It should be an option....
Number 1: tires are definitely too small;(
skid plates r way to few or tiny or rubi fair grip& LEDs headlights not making heat enough to keep crap scooped out light from collecting snow is another good pnt. Should not scoop but b smooth or eye ball rounded. Some LED burn stupid bright hot but they blind ppl so not going to happen.
In other words... your "gripes" are those of a car reviewer, not those of a life-long Jeeper.
Honestly when Made this review. I didn’t know much. I’ve came a long ways!! I don’t agree with all the gripes anymore.
The Jeep auto start/stop is terribly designed then. My mom's Lexus ES, my aunt's Benz C-class, and all Land Rover Jaguars when the engine turns off the heat/AC still functions as normal
I have an 18 JL, AC and heat stay on when auto stop engages.
You are incorrect. ALL 2020 trucks don't have the Start/Stop feature. You shoulda bought a Toyota truck.
Lol...get a headlight brow and drill some holes? Alcohol and water freezes at -125F
Use the auto stop stop switch.
It would just be nice to have a toggle switch. I use the button all the time when needed.
Doing donuts sounds a bit juvenile. I rented one for a couple days in COLORADO, took it up for a day trip to mu cabin. Had 6-8 “ in my drive way and some snow on the county road on the way... I thought the gladiator tracked in the snow horribly, fish tailed even with light throttle. I own a Yukon and a International scout which handle the snow much better. Must be the light rear end in the Jeep. I am sure it is is very capable on the trail and rocks, but bad in the snow....very comfortable otherwise...sits well...
just my .02....
Any truck needs sandbags in the bed to drive decent on snow
u should just be happy u have one, i would kill to own one of those
Auto stop start is the worse thing ever for a car.
🙌💯 totally agree! Heard a lot of people having issues with the systems already.
Glad the auto start can be shut off.......it's a crock to have it "mandatory"..or anything else for that matter.
The fact that it doesn’t come with the spray in bed liner...
no truck comes with a spray in its always an option
No, your wrong. ALL ZR2’S come with it..
@@turbojunki Then what if you dont want a spray in liner or you want a specific color ?
Then You still get a spray in liner. Buy a black truck to match..