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  • @ulisseparisartuso
    @ulisseparisartuso 8 днів тому

    used this to make mouthpieces for cigars. AMAZING results. 2mm bit. INCREDIBLY straight jigs

  • @FUUNNIIEEE
    @FUUNNIIEEE 6 місяців тому +12

    This is a very good idea. even though the video wasn’t very instructional, I still understand the concept.

  • @michaelallen5505
    @michaelallen5505 7 місяців тому +13

    Everybody commenting here that thinks this can't work completely missed how simple it is and how it actually works. Go back to 5:03 and play it in slow motion. The small hole is drilled first. The large hole is drilled second. The large drill bit will perfectly follow the small hole based on how bits function as explained in the first part of the video. You don't need a drill press. You don't need a Forstner bit. You don't even need to drill perpendicular to the board used as a jig. You could drill at a 69.34 degree angle and it's still going to work. It doesn't even matter. This is genius. This guy should win a Nobel prize for jig making.

    • @markschoenberger7825
      @markschoenberger7825 2 місяці тому

      Thank you. That angle info was not obvious at all.

    • @joejoe-lb6bw
      @joejoe-lb6bw 14 днів тому

      We newbies search UA-cam to help solve the current problem. Don’t have time to become rocket scientists. Thus, the videos should be explicit in what to do.

  • @davidcampbell2661
    @davidcampbell2661 3 дні тому

    Oh wow, drill a pilot hole. What a new revelation.

  • @retiredtom1654
    @retiredtom1654 6 місяців тому +3

    So simple and cost effective, plus it will reduce the frustration of trying to cent holes in a dowel. Great video!

  • @michaelbriol5657
    @michaelbriol5657 5 місяців тому +3

    Thanks dude. Loved the idea and tried it out myself. Found a block, used a one inch Forstner bit to make initial hole in my block, but not all the way through. I then changed my bit to the bit to 3/8” bit, then I drilled it dead centre into my my first hole all the way through the block. My one inch dowel fit perfectly in the hole tight, then I clamped it down into my vice and used my hand drill with my 3/8” bit fit perfectly into the hole and it drilled dead centre into the dowel. I had to knock out the block to remove the dowel, and , “Voila” worked perfectly. Best UA-cam video ever made on how to make a hole dead centre in a dowel. Like the man said, “I dare you to try it out”. Please post a better video for all those non believers. Cheers and I hope many more subscribe.

    • @markschoenberger7825
      @markschoenberger7825 2 місяці тому +1

      Yiu were supposed to drill the small hole first. He did not explain well.

    • @one4320
      @one4320 Місяць тому

      Spends 5.37 talking about obvious or irrelevant stuff, speeds through on the actual device used to do the job. 😆

  • @samuelbroad11
    @samuelbroad11 6 місяців тому +2

    I thought this was going to be a clever mathematical way to find a center but lo and behold a nifty little jig: I WILL USE THIS! thank you! subbed.

  • @tazblink
    @tazblink Рік тому +6

    Oh Christ so the secret to dill a hole perfect down the center is to drill a hole perfect down the center. Brilliant!

    • @tony27ortiz
      @tony27ortiz 15 днів тому

      Don't forget to subscribe 😁😆😅🤣😂😂.

  • @DenverDave203
    @DenverDave203 7 місяців тому +8

    Absolutely brilliant, and simple, which is the mark of true brilliance.

  • @Jiminvt1
    @Jiminvt1 Місяць тому

    nice thanks

  • @melherd4672
    @melherd4672 2 місяці тому

    Great tip. I'm just getting into turning pens from dowels and this will make drilling holes in the dowels very easy. Thanks for the video.

  • @trex283
    @trex283 8 місяців тому +2

    Great tip!

  • @Commonsensenotsocommon
    @Commonsensenotsocommon 2 роки тому +1

    Finally I found what I was looking for. All other videos are showing super short dowels!!

  • @LitoGeorge
    @LitoGeorge 22 дні тому

    Its really quite simple brilliant. Thank you.

  • @elaineburroughs5471
    @elaineburroughs5471 2 роки тому +3

    At last, something that works and works well with simple tools! Thanks!!

  • @richjones5432
    @richjones5432 6 місяців тому +1

    Here is a man who has never worked in pressured workshops on piece rate wages.

  • @douglingle1600
    @douglingle1600 Рік тому +2

    I was looking for a howto video to drill a center hole in a dowel, and boy did I found it when I found your video, its so simple its ridiculous, thank you so much ior sharing, just subscribed!

    • @mrschnider6521
      @mrschnider6521 10 місяців тому

      your supposed to put the drill bit in the vice and put the dowell in the drill chuck..

  • @illiniwood
    @illiniwood 6 місяців тому

    Holy cow! This is absolutely genius! Thank you for the awesome tutorial.

  • @vcubed7275
    @vcubed7275 2 роки тому +6

    Brilliant sir. No expensive tools. Works with any lengths of dowels. I’m about to try it on 8-foot dowels that need to be connected by dowel screws. No way to fit 8-foot dowel on a drill press lol.

  • @salty_berserker_channel
    @salty_berserker_channel 2 роки тому

    This was the best solution for my strange problem. Thanks!

  • @jameslouder
    @jameslouder 6 місяців тому +3

    This works great for just about all dowels, both softwood (poplar, basswood) and hardwood (birch, maple), but there's one wood that's more challenging and that is oak. The end-grain of oak alternates very hard regions with porous ones, such that the bit is easily driven off center, especially the smaller diameter bits you'd choose for the pilot hole. So strong is the effect that it may actually bend the bit and distort the hole in your jig--if the bit doesn't break instead. If you plan to drill oaken dowels, be sure to make your jig out of some very hard wood: rock maple, hickory, or oak itself. And if you mean to drill a lot of dowels, you'd do well to shoe the guide hole with a piece of ¼" cold-rolled steel. Even at that, start drilling at a very slow speed, giving the bit time to make itself a divot, then speed up to bore the rest.

  • @inmanmark
    @inmanmark Рік тому +64

    Would have been nice to show the important part - how you make sure that the smaller hole is dead center in your template. You need to get that right, or all of your holes are off center.

    • @ryanabell5923
      @ryanabell5923 Рік тому +35

      the smaller hole is the first hole you drill. drill it the whole way through. use that as a pilot hole for the bigger bit that's sized for your dowel. it's automatically centered and follows the same plane.
      doesn't matter if it's square to the 2x3 because the dowel will also follow the same plane as the template.

    • @ChelseaPensioner-DJW
      @ChelseaPensioner-DJW Рік тому +3

      ​@@ryanabell5923 exactly 👍🏼😆 sorry couldn't help laughing at the thought of the question, but we all need to start somewhere.

    • @fcrick
      @fcrick Рік тому +1

      yeah seems like freehand making the template you might have to try a number of times before you get one dead center. Seems like this relies on having a drill press where if you're having trouble you can clamp the workpiece once you've centered it under the drill if it's wandering when you don't.

    • @donf3739
      @donf3739 7 місяців тому +6

      @@fcrick I thought the same at first, but then realized that there is one hole, the smallest (guide) hole, that goes all the way through, then the larger pilot bit and dowel-size bit follow its center perfectly, whether the pilot is perpendicular or not. (Previous comments infer the same thing.)

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 7 місяців тому

      Won't work if the pilot hole is pretty wide. You also have to have a bit with exactly the same diameter as the dowel.@@ryanabell5923

  • @daltonhobson6982
    @daltonhobson6982 6 місяців тому

    nice like that one

  • @peterhladky5481
    @peterhladky5481 4 місяці тому

    Excellent tip. Thanks!

  • @tommielee8
    @tommielee8 4 місяці тому

    I like drilling but and i learned new things all the time. Even though i was a drill maker for many years i did not do much woodworking. This method should also work for metal.
    Love it. Grasias...amigo.
    ... A few terms i do remember:
    The spiral grooves along the drill are called flutes.
    The "cutting edge" of the tip is what does the cutting.
    The " point angle" is normally 118° for standard cutting..
    or it can be 135° for harder material such as hardened steel.
    Cheers, Chemosabi.

  • @ronr6826
    @ronr6826 Рік тому

    Thank you so much. That was excellent!

  • @chrisparsons7807
    @chrisparsons7807 5 місяців тому

    Well thanks buddy. You just answered my question of how I can drill a centered hole in a sphere without a drill press.

  • @jga1001
    @jga1001 2 роки тому

    Very useful,excellent.
    Thank you.

  • @jean-benoitbourgeois2348
    @jean-benoitbourgeois2348 Рік тому

    Great tip ! Thank you

  • @allnoyz7895
    @allnoyz7895 4 місяці тому

    This is excellent. Thanks!

  • @robinleebraun7739
    @robinleebraun7739 Місяць тому

    Looks good. Boring machines rotate the stock, not the drill. Much more accurate because rotating the stock automatically corrects itself. The combination of small pilot holes and rotating the stock will give you a perfect hole.

  • @mr.b.w.3146
    @mr.b.w.3146 7 місяців тому

    Bloody good tip!! Thanx, will be trying that in the future.

  • @waynetrojan
    @waynetrojan 2 місяці тому

    Been doing that for years.A no brainer.

  • @davidgraham2673
    @davidgraham2673 7 місяців тому +8

    Use a spring loaded punch. Works on metal frame drilling as well. The bit stays right in the divot created, and won't walk if you can drill straight.

  • @shpensive
    @shpensive 7 місяців тому

    excellent I'll be using this trick!

  • @oxxnarrdflame8865
    @oxxnarrdflame8865 7 місяців тому

    Great tip. Thanks.

  • @Ratzfourtyfour
    @Ratzfourtyfour 6 місяців тому +2

    Not only is it useful information it also has that early days UA-cam style nobody else manages to accomplish.

    • @jaesbow
      @jaesbow 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes. Old school UA-cam. A current guy would have spent 10 minutes giving the history of the electric drill, followed by ten minutes on how to buy a dowel.

  • @ShinnySilver
    @ShinnySilver 3 місяці тому

    fantastic video!!!!

  • @jameswatters9592
    @jameswatters9592 6 місяців тому

    great little jig thanks

  • @freakazoidas
    @freakazoidas Рік тому +5

    Blown my mind that you don't really need to drill it perfectly at 90' degrees - you can do it with a hand drill. Since the bigger hole will follow smaller hole perfectly anyways.

  • @44Mag
    @44Mag 6 місяців тому

    This was a great teaching tip! Thank you....

  • @MOTODANS
    @MOTODANS 2 роки тому

    Great simple tip, THanks

  • @michaell1665
    @michaell1665 6 місяців тому +1

    Great info. I will soon be drilling some 1/4" holes into a flat polyethylene (starboard) block to make kayak 1.5" seat risers. I can clamp the guide piece onto the polyethylene after I drill my guide hole. Since I don't have a drill press, my biggest challenge will be making a vertical hole in the guide board, but at least I can drill scrap wood until I get it right.

  • @whatmakesthisourhome312
    @whatmakesthisourhome312 4 роки тому

    That is a very useful tip. Thanks for the help.

  • @alanrichardson7244
    @alanrichardson7244 6 місяців тому

    Great idea!

  • @BruceBelone-ih7rn
    @BruceBelone-ih7rn 8 місяців тому

    Very Good. Thumbs up. Thank you.

  • @jakofishing4444
    @jakofishing4444 2 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @RASTEAL
    @RASTEAL 2 роки тому +7

    I saw one other idea before this one to do this type of drilling process into the end of a rod and was(past tense) going to use it. But this end jig guide idea is absolutely just too brilliantly simple to do anything except work perfectly and it's portable and doesn't even need any batteries. Man-o-man the amount of headaches and aspirin consumed that could have been avoided over the years(as my mind takes a trip down nightmare memory lane). Bayer company got a unknown caused cold sweat just happen. lol

  • @franktozer2562
    @franktozer2562 Рік тому

    You solved my problem thanks. It's easy when you know how.

  • @ivorboyd7551
    @ivorboyd7551 6 місяців тому

    Just what I needed to know as I have to drill a curtain pole which is i two halves so I can fit a dowel to keep themin kine. Brilliantly simple idea.

  • @mr.b.4048
    @mr.b.4048 7 місяців тому

    Watched the VT whilst reading the comments.
    No problem understanding what was being said, as for the ‘jig’ don’t think that needed too much explanation/ instruction 👍

  • @wm.traynor1143
    @wm.traynor1143 7 місяців тому

    Very clever mate😄

  • @danko6582
    @danko6582 6 місяців тому +1

    Get a block of wood. Drill a pilot hole through. Drill a second hole to fit your dowel half way through following the pilot hole. These holes will be concentric. Use this block as a centering tool to drill the dowel.

  • @ChelseaPensioner-DJW
    @ChelseaPensioner-DJW Рік тому +2

    I'm about to repair my Grandads' bamboo walking cane, and as you know bamboo is hollow. Now the stick had been cut down twice, once for my Dad who was 6' 1", then for my Mum who was 5' 10". Now I'm in need of a stick and would love to be the 3rd generation using it, but at 5' 11¾" it needs lengthening. I've got some bamboo the right diameter to match the last cut, but I'll have to use an insert/dowel to strengthen the join. I might consider running a length of mild steel right down the center of the cane, (day and age thing). Well this seems ideal for me to get started on the hole. Thanks.

    • @pmacc3557
      @pmacc3557 7 місяців тому

      A young man like you doesn't need a stick

  • @aaronweatherson4379
    @aaronweatherson4379 7 місяців тому

    ...I use a fender washer to mark the center...

  • @stevewoodrich5130
    @stevewoodrich5130 Місяць тому

    it would have been nice if you showed how you made the jig slower so it was easier to understand. I understand how you made the jig but how you got it large hole lined up with the larger hole.

  • @donf3739
    @donf3739 7 місяців тому +6

    Of course clamping onto a drill press will always line the holes up, but I like how you also showed how to do it without a drill press, in case a person isn't near one.

    • @FUUNNIIEEE
      @FUUNNIIEEE 6 місяців тому +1

      A lot of people don’t own drill presses. this is a good method for drilling a straight hole in the centre.

    • @anonymous.369
      @anonymous.369 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@FUUNNIIEEEbut you need a drill press to make the jig....

    • @Typical.Anomaly
      @Typical.Anomaly 6 місяців тому

      @@anonymous.369 no you don't. Drill the 1/4" hole, then the 1/2", and finally the 3/4". As long as the walls are parallel with each other (they should be since the smaller hole guides the larger bits) then the final hole through the dowel will be straight and centered.

  • @silverhexagon8077
    @silverhexagon8077 2 роки тому +1

    my hero. thank you. i was having some serious "le grill" moments

  • @jimcarter4929
    @jimcarter4929 6 місяців тому

    Dam I swear y tube is spying on me even when nothing is on. Yesterday was doing some shop cleaning and looking for something and I came across a length of wood with a bunch of graduated holes in it and could not remember what it was for and today this came on my feed. Gotta start marking stuff. Oh yea tried it out and it works great.

  • @sharonl.8124
    @sharonl.8124 Рік тому

    Justo he buscado tips de como hacer este tipo de perforación!
    Muchas gracias por compartir!

  • @sparkfishes
    @sparkfishes 2 місяці тому

    But how due you ensure the hole in the block is perpendicular/ true ?

  • @kathyern861
    @kathyern861 5 місяців тому

    If someone needs to drill a hole on one end of a 3-foot-long dowel, how are they going to use a drill press to accomplish that?

  • @NikonErik
    @NikonErik 3 місяці тому

    Where's the link for sharpening?

  • @ivorboyd7551
    @ivorboyd7551 6 місяців тому

    Post should read "in line"

  • @richardbaron3028
    @richardbaron3028 Рік тому

    Thats all well and good. But I need to drill a .5mm hole into the end of a 1/4 in. dowel?

  • @tony27ortiz
    @tony27ortiz 15 днів тому

    Of curse when you have a drill press its so easy. I will like to see it done just with the hand drill. Make another video using only the hand drill and the wood stick and let us see how good you are.🤔🤨.

  • @fordmodelT1957
    @fordmodelT1957 3 місяці тому

    Saul Woodman

  • @Puymouret
    @Puymouret 6 місяців тому

    Idea is great but you missed showing the actual drilling of the most important part.

  • @alanmcrae8594
    @alanmcrae8594 11 місяців тому +3

    Simple and diabolically clever! Uses the cutting action of twist drills to make a quick, accurate drilling jig. Going to try it right now.
    Update: drilled perfectly centered holes in three 5/8" diameter wooden dowels that were 1" long. His method is simple and works great.

  • @ExTexan
    @ExTexan 6 місяців тому

    Geez, that could have (should have) been done in a 1 minute video. 🤯

  • @brentwisniewski1072
    @brentwisniewski1072 6 місяців тому

    You might check your red cutting edges on your drawing. They are shown on the trailing edge of a right hand drill bit.

  • @ghese_choob
    @ghese_choob Рік тому

    Very helpful , thank you 👍

  • @Raul28153
    @Raul28153 7 місяців тому +1

    twist drills wander. the smaller the drill the more it can wander. Doesn't matter if you started with a guide bushing. They will wander in highly homogeneous material and wood is definitely not homogeneous. The best way to prevent wander in wood is with a forstner bit or a brad.

  • @l.salgado6465
    @l.salgado6465 Рік тому

    hello will this work drilling a 5/8" dia. hole in a 2" dia. x 19" long wood dowel?

  • @gwheyduke
    @gwheyduke 3 роки тому +2

    Good tip. Similar to the way machinists drill a repeatable center hole in round stock

    • @woodworkingyoutube
      @woodworkingyoutube  3 роки тому +4

      I actually spent 4 years as a machinist to pay for college in a small shop locally here in CT. Thanks for watching.

  • @gtbones
    @gtbones Рік тому +138

    I get what you're doing but you basically skipped over the most important part of the video which is how to drill the wood block properly....clamping the block and drilling the dowel size with a Forstner bit (best choice for this) and then chucking up the center hole bit with the block still clamped in the same place....why would you fast forward through that part without instruction?....doesn't make sense to me....there are going to be many beginners watching who won't be able to 'reverse engineer' what you did.

    • @phishbutter
      @phishbutter Рік тому +20

      I have no idea what I watched.

    • @markwoodrum3297
      @markwoodrum3297 Рік тому +19

      I THOUGHT THE SAME THING. THANK YOU. HE DIDN'T EXPLAIN THE MOST IMPORTANT PART JUST RUSHED THROUGH IT.😢

    • @mrschnider6521
      @mrschnider6521 10 місяців тому +3

      you can just put the dowell in the drill chuck and the drill bit in the vice. this spins the dowell and the drill bit does not move. and not not do this stupid block thingy. drill the dowel into the bit, this is how a lathe works and how center holes are drilled.

    • @pmacc3557
      @pmacc3557 7 місяців тому +1

      Good point

    • @actionjksn
      @actionjksn 7 місяців тому +13

      You're right, I'm a professional carpenter and figured out what he did, which was actually a good trick. But someone who doesn't have as much experience is not going to figure out what he did because it was filmed so poorly.

  • @royruther4895
    @royruther4895 9 місяців тому

    how do you make sure the hole in the jig is straight?

    • @donf3739
      @donf3739 7 місяців тому

      It doesn't have to be. That's his point. The 1/4" hole goes straight through, then the 1/2" follows that hole concentrically, and then the same with the 3/4" through the 1/2" hole, all concentrically aligned, whether perpendicular to the block or not.

  • @bbb103
    @bbb103 Місяць тому

    I tried this freehand and with a drill press, the drill kept wandering off center. Perhaps it works for most, but not for me.

  • @jons6368
    @jons6368 Рік тому

    How about a video on how to make the template?

  • @gentlelove
    @gentlelove 6 місяців тому

    But I want the hole to go the length of the dowel? How do I do that? Shalom you're loved 💔

  • @stuartjamieson2427
    @stuartjamieson2427 2 роки тому +1

    OK but yoh got to drill hole in the template perfect first and what if you using different with dowells.

  • @victoriavarzinova9748
    @victoriavarzinova9748 11 місяців тому

    How do I make such a block? All I have is a hand drill

  • @Aridzonia1
    @Aridzonia1 Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know how to drill a hole horizontally “Straight “ through a crooked log standing vertically???

    • @donf3739
      @donf3739 7 місяців тому

      Maybe this kind of block, but it would have to be made perpendicular on a drill press. That'll get your horizontal, but lateral is another story.

  • @taekedejonge2846
    @taekedejonge2846 2 роки тому

    Thanks.😀

  • @longdriver2
    @longdriver2 6 місяців тому

    Great Idea. Where's the instruction for drilling the guide?

  • @ravindrareddy8536
    @ravindrareddy8536 Рік тому

    That is very smart, Thank you

  • @gavjav1
    @gavjav1 Рік тому

    What if you wanted to drill a 25mm hole through a turning about 200mm long

    • @donf3739
      @donf3739 7 місяців тому

      Unless I'm missing something, I would say the same way, only with a long bit.

  • @Marcoosianism
    @Marcoosianism 6 місяців тому

    The title of the video isn't how to make a larger hole down the center given an existing perfectly centered smaller hole, so unless I'm really stupid I haven't learned how to make an initial hole straight down the center of a dowel. Was the point simply to use a small bit and a drill press or is there some special technique involved? .. which was what I was looking for.

  • @markgoddard2560
    @markgoddard2560 7 місяців тому +1

    Americans! Remember You only need to explain what you are going to do once!

  • @geoffreydebrito7934
    @geoffreydebrito7934 6 місяців тому

    inmarkman's comment below is WHY I can't give this vid a thumbs up, "Would have been nice to show the important part - how you make sure that the smaller hole is dead center in your template. You need to get that right, or all of your holes are off center."

  • @J.T.19134
    @J.T.19134 2 роки тому +7

    This was the most difficult instructional video I ever watched. I'm not the sharpest tool (no pun intended), I can admit that, but holy shit was I lost watching this.

    • @kbi4739
      @kbi4739 Рік тому

      same

    • @J.T.19134
      @J.T.19134 Рік тому

      @@kbi4739 No Insult intended, but im glad I'm not alone as not the sharpest tool. I needed a 1/2" hole through a 1" dowel, 6" Deep. I just got a 1 1/2" Pole, Got the hole as close as I could, put it on my bench grinding arbor and sanded it down to 1". It was close enough

    • @kbi4739
      @kbi4739 Рік тому

      I actually 3d printed a jig using this idea that worked perfectly.

    • @J.T.19134
      @J.T.19134 Рік тому

      @@kbi4739 For 1 size dowel tho right? What if you have different thickness

    • @kbi4739
      @kbi4739 Рік тому +1

      @@J.T.19134 would require a different print!

  • @A.P.Garland
    @A.P.Garland Рік тому +2

    you didn't show the important part of creating the template...it just F'forwarded through.

  • @user-bz3zm9xb1w
    @user-bz3zm9xb1w 6 місяців тому

    There is a simpler way without any jigs. Just keep the drill bit stationary and rotate the dowel instead. This is easier on the lathe, but I suppose can still be done on drill press assuming the dowel is not too long and fits in the chuck.

    • @grantking4681
      @grantking4681 6 місяців тому

      How do you manage if, like me, you don't have a lathé?

  • @user-xm4ep1rl1j
    @user-xm4ep1rl1j 6 місяців тому

    How to Make a Short Story Long

  • @plipertyplap4899
    @plipertyplap4899 Рік тому

    That's OK on a perfect circular dowel no good for making walking sticks

  • @Anubalfer
    @Anubalfer 6 місяців тому

    All of mine keep coming out off- center.

  • @Roonasaur
    @Roonasaur 6 місяців тому

    This would have been a lot clearer if you had made a jig purposely off-angle, because it seems a lot of people aren't getting the trick.
    A larger bit will follow a pilot hole quite nicely, so you can always drill a larger hole perfectly on top of a pilot hole, regardless of its angle to the larger block of wood. So when you take that jig in reverse, and stick a dowel into the larger hole, the smaller hole will still be perfect on center, as long as you didn't drill the larger hole all the way through and destroy it. Even if the hole is 32.67734578 degrees off vertical.

  • @Mygames627
    @Mygames627 Рік тому +1

    This is great however I've never seen store bought dowels the exact same size. So if your drilling hundreds of holes from different dowels this jig won't be accurate.

  • @flyingsawdustjemtz9226
    @flyingsawdustjemtz9226 6 місяців тому +1

    Maybe my video skipped, because I failed to see your use of two different sizes of Forstner buts to drill your block. Clamping the dowel on a vise will leave marks as it crushes the wood.
    I suggest you study up on “depth of field” of your camera lens. Make your objects look in focus to your audience.

  • @jackiehung7258
    @jackiehung7258 Рік тому

    LOL don't have a drill press then what to do?