**NOTES/CORRECTIONS** - I am aware that the translation for constellations in Chinese is more literally translated into "constellation of destiny" rather than "destiny seat" but ALSO realize that we're looking at the wordplay here as well. Hoyo *really* loves puns and using words/phrases with double meanings, and the sheer amount of these that have come up in the past and became relevant/functioned as foreshadowing makes digging into these instances of wordplay almost a necessity. - The same can be said for the Shen Yuan/Yuan Shen situation. Despite putting the characters on screen at the same time, a lot of people seem to have missed the disclaimers.
The funny thing is that wordplay is very common in Chinese (not just Hoyoverse), so I'm not sure why people are complaining about it. We also have to take note that the English localization may be flawed as there are some things that cannot be localized accurately without any context of the wordplay. I think you did a good job about that there. Here's some pronunciation tips if you want to read Genshin in Chinese closer to the native reading: the yuán in yuánshén is pronounced similar to the yue in Liyue with an n at the end (the sound is similar to saying yee but the lips shape a yoo), while the shén in yuánshén is like the shen in Shenhe. So a close approximation of the reading is yuenshun (both with rising tones).
I feel there was a bit of information from a melusine side quest (the one with Canotila) you could have used to reinforce the star/dragon thing about the traveler.
Ashikai, hello! I hope you are doing well :) Recently I've been re-watching loads of your videos, but can't find one particularly dear and intriguing to me (I adore colour theories). It's content is a thorough speculation on primordial energy and it's cyan colour. I simply can't find it and feel desperate. Could you please give me a hint?
From the beginning of the game we have had multiple characters saying that receiving a Vision comes with a great price, and apparently we now know what that price is: You become a prisoner of Fate, which is a system created by the Heavenly Principles to keep Teyvat under control.
Edit: some of the following are theories(based mostly from Ashikai’s), but so far the way it explains the fate system is very coherent. (assuming it's the King star that dictates their fates). Firstly archon constellations are compromised by Celestia through archon system. Since Furina’s divinity(Focalors) was destroyed and her divinity was the king star in her constellation, wouldn't Furina's current king star(vision) then be Neuvillette's own constellation prince star? (consider that Archon system and Vision system are similar but in different tier) in Furina's case her constellation's "King star" (divinity/celestial throne/Focalors) was destroyed and then she regained a connection to the constellation by getting a vision, which is part of Hydro dragon’s constellation stars or a piece of his authority/prince stars, that makes her not subject to Celestia's prepositioned fate because her vision isn’t connected to powers/authorities that aren’t compromised by Celestia. the parallel to this system is the vision system where the vision is either the King star or the connection of a constellation to the elemental/elemental-authority constellations, an analogy for what happened to Furina’s divinity would be: if a vision holder’s vision was destroyed. since her constellation was incomplete when the King star was destroyed it "realigned" with a star. either through: 1.)because it's the closest or most similar to the original star in the past, she was a Hydro Archon candidate itfp so it’s no shock that her missing part could be replaced by something from the embodiment of Hydro authority. 2.) it simply realigned with some parts of her(Focalors) that returned to Neuvillette's constellation.(scandalous, but it makes sense) 3.) idk, Neuvillette gave it to her? like number 1 but from Neuvillette's side. however we’re yet to know if the constellation system are also innate like Vision system, meaning if it can be decided which star connects to which constellation and vice versa, if not then it wasn’t a “choice” but rather fate/meant-to-be (basically it’s the universe who decides) 4.) her constellation manifested its own king star(is it even possible for a human?) 24:24 interestingly this parallels how Focalors invited him to be somewhat of a King(star) of his own under an "Archon" without king star and in a theater controlled by Celestia, now it's the other way around(though in a lowkey kind) and now Furina has a king star of her own that isn't subject to Celestia's control, very poetic. could this also mean Furina can ascend beyond heavens and become her own constellation (like Dragons) when she gets strong enough or Neuvillette allows her to? (well according to Ashikai theory atleast) I realized I have cooked alot.
It possible that both of them are descender but Abyss twin probably answered to the Wish of the Abyss instead of Kheanriah or they was corrupted by will of abyss and lost their descender status cause u know, they can't no longer carry will of the World because abyss wish to destroy the world(specifically abyss order not abyss itself but their goal might be aligned).
@@shiroxkuro934 interesting, but we dont know if someone can be ''corrupted'' and lost their descender status, but thinking that what give this status to them is a desire, something that can change, if her desire changed then that would make sense, now in back in sumeru if i remember correctly Nahida says that we arent registered by the tree bcause we arent from Teyvat, but for some reason our twin does, and that make us think that maybe our twin isnt really our twin anymore, that also would make sense with your idea of our twin being corrupted, maybe someone did something to our twin, cause she doesnt seems to be the head in control of it all, to make her desire be for the abyss and khaenriah, and that change took her descender status and made her registered by the Irminsul...
Crazy how some of us use to thought that focalor will be on the heavenly principal side base on dan's voice line in the trailer it turned out she was the one who gave Celestia the biggest middle finger.
@@amochikaayFocalors is no longer the "Archon" because she's already dead :'). Furina cannot be considered an "Archon", for she only played the role of one, is a copy of Focalors, and is also a (perfect) "human being" as per Focalors state before she died. But no matter what, Furina still got recognition as an Archon from other Archons even though she is not :') She deserves that recognition, however. 500 years acting as another person to save her nation while trying to maintain her true identity and sanity, her (and Focalors) sacrifices are beyond anything honestly.
@@catnapncatty I would like to do a bit correction here. Furina is not a copy of Focalors. She is a part of her, Focalors's human part. As Ashikai also said, Furina being the human part while focalor being the pure divine part.
if traveler are wish granters, that explains something for me. during random reward events in game where the npc is in the middle of nowhere in the map, i always wondered how traveler able to know where they are. it now seems that they are actually responding to their wish. the npc were always pondering how to complete whatever task and all of the sudden the traveler arrives as if blessing from the gods
If teleport point are canon and the fact that they have an cannon explanation for Katherine being everywhere then this might as well be Canon/has high chances of being cannon
Kept thinking "oh shi ashikai was right" throughout almost the entire 4.2 quest and boy ive been waiting for what do you have to say for the new loredrops in it. Finally momma's cooking again and i'm hungy
If Celestia is using the Vision/Gnosis and the constellations/sky/stars as a way to control fate, then the phrase: "In Teyvat, the stars in the sky will always have a place for you" from the loading screen, suddenly got a lot more ominous
I actually think that Venti and Zhongli are aware of the "curse" of the remains of the Third Descender which was why they were both too willing to let go of theirs. It also explains why Venti didn't think too much of Signora taking his gnosis.
It's interesting that, about Furina's vision, one could say that she regained her ambition during the Little Oceanid performance, considering that she didn't want to perform on stage anymore.
its not that she does't want to perform, she just doesn't want to act as someone else. coincidentally the story is parallel to her and she can just act as herself
I agree that it was the right moment for her to gain the vision, made it impactful aswell. but you know i have been wondering since 4.2 why did Furina not receive a vision before? this is a question some other ppl have aswell here was my thought process: we know that she started hating acting until her passion got rekindled in her story quest. key word being "rekindled" which means she loved acting before aswell, so what stopped her from gaining a vision if this is what caused her to gain it? well the reason is that she actually gained an ambition, she says it so herself. it's something akin to wanting to hear true stories of people aswell as guiding performers, aka being sort of a director and a guide. but here is where i hit a roadblock for a bit while she gained an ambition and received a vision for it, she did have an ambition before, it was to save Fontaine by sacrificing herself and suffering for them. She used acting as a means to achieve that goal so why not gain a vision? it would ruin the entire plan because if you gain a vision it means you are not an Archon so Focalors's plan would have failed very early on. Hell Focalors even tells Furina "i suppose this is 'justice' that belongs to you" so she should have gained Hydro vision in response to her own justice right? but after this i believe i reached my answer(cracked the code even if it's not straight up confirmed) Furina did not receive a vision because of a simple reason that was already explained in the story, it's because she was an Archon, 2/3rds of it in fact(body and spirit) while Focalors(divinity) is only 1/3rd. If Ashikai's theory about constellation in this video is true then that means Furina is all the prince stars of the constellation while Focalors is the king star. Furina was not able to receive a vision because king star(divinity), although it was split from herself, still existed meaning that she was connected to it aswell as connected to the Gnosis. Of course she gained no power from the Gnosis because it all went to king star part of the constellation AKA divinity. Archons can't gain actual legit visions, since they have gnosis and are just straight up ascended, so Furina in a similar fashion straight up could not do it while divinity part of herself still remained and WAS able to gain it after it got executed/destroyed. There are some people who think that Furina was never an Archon which is just incorrect if anything i said is remotely true. at this point from what we know, she was 2/3rds of an Archon(or by another interpretation all the prince stars) which made her an Archon but not a full Archon, same with Focalors. Since both of them were alive they together made a complete Archon although in split form, while now since Focalors is gone Furina stays as body and spirit...which is similar to a human who is able to gain a vision, but also kinda different because she has her own constellation same as beings like Dragons,Archons, Pseudo archons?(Scaramouche?) and Traveler.
While Furina was singing she was asked "But what about your wish?" So she probably wished for something and her ambition was rewarded with a vision. I mean come on, we all knew Neuvillete wanted to give her a vision as soon as he was able to anyway.
Remember that people without their visions lose their ambitions. Being given a vision gives the person the ambition to fulfill their wishes. Being given a delusion is to falsely give into ideals that aren't your own but depend on that ideal for the power that comes with it. We lost Teppei in Inazuma to a delusion and saw the addiction to it he possessed before his passing. In a way, Visions give life's purpose to a person while Delusions take away life.
In Neuvillette's voiceline About Furina, he says that "if she were ever to make a return to the stage, I should personally attend the performance and give her my heartfelt applause... yes, I must do so when the opportunity arises" I think her vision was granted due to a combination of her realizing that she can use the stage to explore humanity now instead of denying it, plus Neuvillette supporting her new goal ❤
Fun fact about the Narwhal: he is actually called "Sternenverschlingender Narwal" in the German version, which literally means "star devouring narwhal" so the translation team agrees with you
I was wondering if childe’s vision was acting up because he was about to realize his ambition… like what happens if a vision wielder gets their original wish granted or has their original ambition radically changed? But i like the idea of childe having a rouge vision granted by a random star beast
what was his ambition really? kill the whale or be the stronger in the world? he kind of say to us in his status that he want to conquer the world and all....
@@Uummi He's Childe, dude doesn't have much an ambition beyond fighting strong people and protecting the fam. He's basically Genshin's Goku. Conquer the world is mostly just a metaphor in his case for saying he wants to be the strongest. That ambition likely wouldn't be fulfilled actually conquering the world, especially if politics ended up giving him it without a fight. Heck, if he found out there's other worlds/universes out there with stronger people than in Teyvat, the goal post for him would definitely be moved to being stronger than them. In general his ambition is one that just won't be fulfilled ever for someone as optimistic as he is unless he has no regrets with the fam (e.g. they can do perfectly fine without him) and he's already past his prime going out in a blaze of glory against a worthy opponent.
@@KanethedragonYeah, childe is basically what if Goku never hit his head as a toddler and stay as Kakarot but somehow still affected by grandpa Gohan kindess. Resulting in somewhat of an Anti-Hero.
- The Travelers are Shooting Stars - At the beginning of the game two golden stars are shown falling in Teyvat - We know that Khaenri'ah summoned the Travelers from beyond the firmament *Conclusion:* The two golden stars at the beginning of the game are the Travelers being summoned by Khaenri'ah in a similar way to the Wish system we use to summon characters.
I wonder if the traveler will is so strong because of their wish to rescue their sibling. Maybe that was the plan of the heavenly principles, to separate them to make their will strong enough to make them a descender. That would explaing why the sibling is not a descender, because they were not put in this path. Paimon's role must have something to do with this too.
@@syarifairlangga4608 Okay two things, Lumine (I assume you mean abyss twin) is not dead, and theres is nothing to suggest she is, as far as I know, and also, being dead does not take away your status as a descender, as proven by the third descender being dead but still being referred to as a descender.
@@lilaclily1730 i think they said that because there's some theories saying teyvat is stuck in a samsara cycle and only once you die are you recorded in irminsul. people believe the abyss twin was sent 500 years in the past, travelled teyvat, and then died. idk how they're still alive im assuming the abyss saved them or something (idk much about the theory i literally just heard about it a few moments ago in another video) but now their destiny is to stop the cycle however this can only be possible with a power from beyond so it's up to us bc we aren't sealed in the fate of teyvat unlike our sibling
22:25 Dainslef also says this in the Tevat Storyline trailer: "The gods goad us on with the promise of their seven treasures. Rewards for the worthy. The doorway to divinity. Yet buried in the depths of this world lies smoldering remains: a warning to those that dare tresspass. 'That throne in the sky is not reserved for you.' " Just thought it should be mentioned 😊
Given some recent commentaries on allogens I think getting a vision basically means finding your place in this World, the role you are supposed to hold on the stage that is tevyat
The "reading backwards" pun in Chinese (despite different characters and inflections) is a thing Hoyo has done in Genshin before! I'm copying this post I found on Twitter: CN Genshin fans found something shocking abt the CN title of Fontaine Act V, "罪人舞步旋" (zuì rén wǔ bù xuán), or "Dance Steps of the Guilty." Reversed, it becomes "旋步舞人罪" (xuán bù wǔ rén zuì), which is almost phonetically identical to the phrase "宣布无人罪" (xuān bù wú rén zuì), where only the inflections of the first and third characters are slightly different. The meaning of "宣布无人罪?" "DECLARATION: NONE ARE GUILTY."
This needs more attention, that's such good wordplay that basically foreshadowed the quest's ending from the moment the first fontaine trailer waas dropped!
Now this makes you wonder, what happens if we reverse other titles of idk archons qeust or something...I bet some people tried Do we get something or nothing
Surtalogi might have a connection to Boughkeeper , ..both coming from north mythology, him being the twilight sword and also having the Quantum blackhole in his official background .
he will or will not, we will see later, i suggest you to check out the teyvat travail trailer, you will see how much it makes sense from his perspective.
@@liaartist3671 from dainslief "we will defy this world with a power from beyond" the similarities are there, surtalogi is def using same sort of powers? who knows but dain fits the bill cause kanrea is a norse inspired nation so eh.😅
The thing about Neuvillette reestablishing his kings throne in his constellation is funny to me because there was a bug fix to his c6 when 4.2 came out. Assuming his c6 is his kings throne and it being fixed on the update that established he got his authority back is a funny little coincidence to me
This ties in quite nicely with what I cooked up after this patch! It also links to Nahida's riddle about Visions - I think a person receives a Vision when they "see" their fate. Their ambition, their wish, is so strong as to become certain in their own mind - almost like a premonition, or perhaps... a vision. The Vision then crystallizes to grant their wish, which naturally becomes their fate. Celestia then inscribes that fate upon a constellation to enforce it.
I wonder if the power of Geo is involved in that crystallization. Of all the elements, dendro and geo are not in either HI3 or HSR. Dendro is linked to Irminsul, the network of memories that is at the core of Teyvat, and Geo might be the element that keeps it all together. The power of Geo to crystallize other elements is quite something, and not only does it crystallize those, it also is able to crystallize the "vitality" of dragon blood; look at Durin and Elynas. This makes Zhongli even more suspicious of what kind of entity he really is, and also raises questions about his statement of visions being a kind of "contract"(crystallization), and his "contract to end all contracts".
That also paints an interesting contrast with the Delusions. A Vision shows a person what they must do to fill that set role in on the stage. Whereas a Delusion gives that person a false impression of that role that runs counter to fate. The key difference being that those who use the Vision power their use of the elements with a greater power, and the power of a Delusion more or less uses the person themselves as a battery - something that eventually leads to death even if a few people have shown increased resilience to it as compared with others. Perhaps something like a "deep" delusion versus a "shallow" delusion. And then there's the aspect of where each comes from. Visions are granted as a piece of an Archon's power - those who won the Archon War and were chosen by Celestia to usher in a particular path for fate. The gods who lost and died - if I recall correctly - could be used as building materials for Delusions. Their version of fate - now rejected - could only result in delusions for what the future should be, rather than a true Vision. Oh, oh. And that even tracks with the Traveler's reaction to said dead god materials. Since the Travelers seems to be something like a walking Gnosis in some regards as a Descender, it only makes sense that the Gnosis equivalent of a Delusion - dead god essence - would cause them harm. As we see from Childe, it's incredibly damaging to use a Vision and Delusion at the same time. So that actually explains why the Traveler reacted so negatively when exposed to that material even while the Baladeer and Paimon were entirely unaffected. It's weird that you can just take off running on a theory that just seems to fall in place while you're just talking about it. Even when there's a good chance it will just be totally or at least partially wrong later. Maybe that's all part of the fun.
@@aramythr5965 Geo is curious because as far as I can recall, we've really not gotten a lot of direct information about what Authority over Geo entails. We mostly just know that it entails the concept of "contracts" and that Mora is somehow tied to it (along with the obvious control over Geo). Mora in particular is worth paying attention to - despite being treated as a currency, it doesn't feel like too much of a stretch to say that its properties as a "catalyst" are the true value of Mora. Mora's use as a catalyst would imply that Geo is the element that catalyzes reinforcement, transmutation, and alchemy... which quite neatly ties in to how Albedo describes it. "Soil - the origin of alchemy, the basis of all life." This would also provide a means for Mora to be produced by the leylines - since Mora is made from, presumably, soil and Geo, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a leyline to accumulate enough Geo energy to create a small batch of Mora. I think it would actually be pretty cool if that all tied in to explain the leyline blossoms. All of the other resin rewards have some kind of explanation, so it feels right. It may also mean that the Geo Gnosis is only necessary to create Mora insofar as it contains the requisite Authority to mint "true Mora" which has all of the lovely catalytic properties we know and love. Needless to say, Zhongli has certainly lived up to his contract. He's managed to have a huge amount of time on screen while hardly divulging anything about the true nature of the world.
@@thenerdempire With all the talk of Visions, Delusions, and the stars, the Funerary Mask item text feels incredibly appropriate. One part in particular stands out: "Perhaps it is fair to say that only those who possess an obsession close to or even exceeding the level of *delusion* might be willing to join this group that so rebels against the Heavenly Principles, binding their remaining days to their Delusions and burning as brightly as *stars* ." If a Vision is a lesser fragment of a star, then a Delusion is a means to burn away a life such that it resembles a star. The item text also mentions that Fatui forsake their true names and faces when they join. I can't help but wonder if this is a means to remove individual ambition from the rank-and-file Fatui to _prevent_ them from receiving Visions. If your ambition/wish is not tied to your own life, but to the Tsaritsa, then what could you see other than *her* wishes fulfilled? Since the fate you reach for is not your own, you cannot earn a Vision. However, this ALSO means that your fate will not be carved into the stars, and you may yet be able to play a part in the Tsaritsa's grand plan to defy Celestia. It really is fun to make theories like this - and sometimes, it's almost uncanny how close the community gets to the truth even with limited information.
there are still many flaws with this. MANY NPC's have great ambitions or determination but never got a vision. rana got a vision (absolutely not deserved in my opinion), same with furina. they had no great ambitions. some aranara also had great ambition, same as pari , same as melusines and didn't get a vision (sigewinne wont count since she is obviously baited for the fandom as human girl again). take garcia. to me he also deserves a vision but wont get any. I still more think that the divine choose people (remember, vision = eye of god), to monitor the tinier people. Or more, humans with too great ambition might grow and become competition to the divine. By giving them visions and monitor and control their fate they can make sure that it wont happen. Remember, Venessa ascended and was sent back as bird, her whole power got stripped away from her as "ascension" because she grew "too big" to the gods. In our ascension mats , exp and cons it says even a mortal might become someone divine through this to ascend. Means more constellations, vision, more exp AND traveler (all friendship lines are indicator of traveler's presence makes each person stronger and closer to ascend) brings them straight up to celestia to basially "take away all that they are so they are unarmed"
25:30 that makes sense bc when the Melusines wanted to read Neuvillettes constellation, it said in his character story that he doesn’t have a constellation bc his constellation is just Neuvillette. 🤭
@@lowliethxd1471 yup, and his constellation shape is basically himself imagining what his dragon form would look like lmao. Man is headcanoning his own constellation XD
@@Newspaper.Ojisan he imagines what his dragon form would look like? He doesn't have a physical dragon form? I thought he transformed into human form after Focalors asked him to be the Iudex?
@@xero5727 So far as we know, nope. He was already prophesied to be born in human form, and also because hydro vishaps were experimented on by orobashi to prevent the rebirth of hydro sovereign. Because of this, Hydro vishaps were contaminated with other elements so hydro dragon sovereign needs a pure vessel to be reborn. Edit : I'm half joking about him imagining his form, it was never directly stated. It's just like what op said, melusines love to read astrology and wanted to know his constellation (which he doesn't have one because his cons is just himself).
I can't laugh enough to the fact that Neuvilette has just become not only the Sovereign of Hydro and the God of Life but ALSO the Sovereign of LORE DROP. THIS MAN IS MASSIVE!!
I find it so mindblowing how small details from 3 years ago have huge implications for the overall narrative. The entire story is airtight with zero plot-holes or retcons. Everything has been written carefully since day 1 and we only get tiny details for what’s going on
So, about the space dragon theory, Focalors says to Neuvillette (during THAT scene): "In other words, this was all done to return the authority of the Hydro Archon to the Hydro Dragon of THIS PLANET." The wording struck me as odd but with that theory, it makes a lot of sense.
It doesn't mean anything. Don't think too deep on that. It's just flowery poetic writing. It's not like Focalors knows they have hydro dragons on other planets or that other planets even exist.
@@marcusaurelius4777 to be fair, when asked "who would keep an all-devouring narwhal as a pet?" Skirk replies with "i know, such a waste of a planet's primordial waters", if only focalors said something like that i would agree with it being just rethoric, but who knows, maybe theres more to it?
@@marcusaurelius4777 in a game like genshin where there are a lot of people working on the lore and hinting at them in the smallest of details, it wouldn't be wise to dismiss something just because it's often used as a way to dramatize something, because using commonly seen phrases like these is the best way to hide crucial information in plain sights
@@marcusaurelius4777 Out of all game studios, Hoyoverse is the LAST one you wanna apply this kind of statement to. If there's one thing Hoyoverse absolutely LOVES to do... It's foreshadowing stuff right under our noses, Honkai Impact 3rd is literally filled to the brim with that kind of stuff and both Genshin and Star Rail have shown foreshadowing when it comes to lore stuff, especially so with their Light Cones/Relics and Weapons/Artifacts. And like Ashikai herself said in many of her videos... Hoyoverse simply DON'T do coincidences, and that has been proven lord knows how many times now. So yeah, definitely wouldn't dismiss what OP said. Not when Hoyo's in charge.
10:10 Could this be why the extra material you get from Wishes (i.e. rolling on banners) is called "Masterless Stardust"? It's dust of the power to grant wishes, without one to judge those wishes good or ill.
I forgot about the thrones until I just rewatched the quest where the Shogun killed Signora. When the traveler challenged La Signora to a duel, they said “I challenge you to a duel before the throne”, which I think was interesting, because there wasn’t actually any physical throne there. They were only in front of the Shogun/Ei
Yea Honkai 3rd has been paralleling Genshin's themes for a while, Hoyoverse explores the same themes from different perspectives in each game. Even the most unassuming character like Baizhu directly quotes the final antagonist of Honkai 3rd, who he has the same VA and said something that very closely resembles the final arc of Honkai 3rd part 1. The current arc almost parallels the history of Teyvat's formation, an ark from the previous era 50000 years ago crashed landed on a planet and the life seeding and terraforming contents leaked onto the planet, vastly changing it's ecosystem. This planet then underwent multiple cycles of destruction. I feel that Celestia and the Primordial One did not intentionally invade Teyvat, they might have "crash landed" here or was summoned for some reason. What I think Celestia is about as someone who experienced previous Honkai's stories: Hoyoverse antagonists are never "evil" for "evil" sake, they all fight for reasons of higher purpose and always involve preserving the rights to live, for civilisation to survive, to beat destiny. I believe Celestia is setting up "tests" for civilisation to survive beyond this world. Every time a civilisation reaches a point where they feel like they can actively challenge Celestia, Celestia will accept their challenge with full force, because if they can't beat Celestia, they have absolutely no chance of surviving outside this world. It's a cruel test, if you can't beat them, you'll be destroyed, civilisation will be restarted and rebuilt for another samsara to take the test again with lessons from previous civilisations. All Vision bearers are people who pass the primary school exam, and the reward is that they get to steal power from Celestia. What Celestia wants is entire civilisations to steal all power from Celestia, so that they become mature enough to reach into the stars. As Dr MEI from Honkai 3rd said: "All the stars are enemies", every star out there contains countless other civilisations, they will take from you one day if you don't get ready for them. Your dreams aren't yours alone, it's the entire civilisation's dreams vs every other dream out there. Celestia is tough love, they want to make sure all children on this planet will grow up ready for the real world. They will represent the values and sacrifices of all 7 Archons, what we learned from all of them. The final chapter of Honkai 3rd part 1 traced and tied everything we ever experienced all the way back to chapter 1, answering every question and reminding us of every message we learned, all characters we met and the path we took to meet destiny, I believe Genshin will do the same. We will find out the secrets that Venti dare not speak about, the contracts that Celestia kept, we will learn about the eternal cycles, unlock wisdom beyond the firmament, face true judgement and go to war against the stars. One day we will beat the destiny that Heavenly Principles has decided, the final exam and be ready for the universe outside when we steal back all the authority that Celestia has kept in custody.
I've always had a weird cyclical feeling to Genshin's story, how things are repeating themselves, but a bit different each time so your theory is very compelling to me. This resolution would be a bit lackluster to me though, I don't know.
@@tristanmanalo6252 Consider the definition of arrogation: to claim unwarrantably or presumptuously; assume or appropriate to oneself without right. The meaning of 'mortal' in this case is a little odd though. Many beings in the world are long-lived or divine in nature, but not defined exclusively as 'immortal'. Dain himself is one of the few beings that has been specifically stated to be cursed with immortality. In my mind, he's still commenting on Celestia. But, that's just my opinion on it.
@@cbfranklin even after scara become false god he was still calling traveller a mortal......so of course they can be trying to throw us different path
15:37 speaking of dragon pearl, Toriyama's Dragon Ball is written as 七龙珠 (7 dragon pearls) in Chinese. But in Genshin story, it really feel like it's the Fatui harbingers that go around the world collecting 7 Gnosis like they're collecting 7 Dragon balls 😂 As if they can wish for something once all 7 are put in the same place.
yeah, and all the talk about people using dragon jewel to ascent remind me of the last episode ofDBGT, where Goku absorb all the dragonball and proceed to go somewhere with shenron, probably a higher plane of existence?
30:39 clothar did say in the caribert quest that lumine was the hope of khaenriah aka the hope for the abyss. so it would make sense they summoned her or made her the princess.
"The keeper is fading away; the creator has not yet come. But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend." 21:00 I believe that what you say about the sustainer, is reflected in the Traveler's character story. The 'keeper' (being the Sustainer here), is fading. Her light is fading away, hence the gold slowly fading into darkness.
I see some theory around the Tsaritsa goal's, which one implied she wants to resurect the third descender like Isis did with Osiris. I'm struggling and need more Fatui lore ... Anyway, your videos are always amazing !
I get the feeling that the previous "We'll side with the dragons' theory is actually how its going to go and we'll end up siding with our twin, at least in part
4.2 was a real eye opener, for sure. I've been replaying older bits to refresh, and the gamble between Nahida and Doctor, came to mind. When it comes to the Focalor's actions, and their potential ramifications. Will that cause a stir in later updates? Time will tell.
Surtalogi is the sword of Surtr who was considered the Twilight of the Gods that brought about Ragnarok. He's Skirks master and in the same league as Rhinedottir and another being called Vedrfolnir. Surtalogi being the name of a sword and Dainsleif also being the name of a sword as well as Gram and with Gungnir being the name of a spear. I think they're all related since they are all Norse.
Surtalogi is the fire, not the sword (which is unnamed, but is also flaming during Ragnarok). If we get a Tyrfing, that'll be very interesting. Also, since Vedrfolnir is the hawk at the top of Yggdrasil, I suspect it's more related to Celestia and the carving of Fontaine's fate into the Irminsul than say, another Khaenri'ahn.
@@BlackGateofMordor I can't wait to meet Vedrfolnir cause their significance to the overall structure of Teyvat is very interesting. Also I wonder if the Eagle will be symbolic or a real person since it does not have a name. I do think that they could be a part of the hexenzirkel...maybe
We know Piero has send scaramouche onto expeditions into the abyss to search for something on several occasions though they never found "it", it can be assumed that before going for the Gnosis they were looking for the traveller and seeing as they failed to find us they went for plan B the gnosis plan.
If you go to the archives then Shouki no kami you’ll notice in his description that even if he hates humanity he’ll also watch over them and comes to love them, cuz the gnosis is a channel that passes the people’s wishes .
Time to wake up... Ashikai posted a new video! I'll be honest... that little lore bit at the end with skirk regarding the origins of the gnosis really threw me for a loop when it got revealed. Thank you for this video to basically give a TLDR on what exactly it meant and how it'll affect the overall story of the game in the future. I'm actually pretty excited to find out now what's in store for us.
In a way, a Decender has both the power of a god and the will or personal authority to shape worlds... it makes me wonder if our twin had their will/personal authority taken when they were found/summoned to Teyvat, while we the MC were still in stasis sleep.... after all our twin was written into Irminsul (but we don't know WHEN because gods can change it). I still suspect that the Sustainer is the one who has written our twin into Irminsul history as part of Teyvat... And that we the MC couldn't be written from the shocked look the Sustainer gives us as she is collecting us the MC.... Something went wrong there and the Sustainer wasn't expecting it... we just don't know WHAT yet. Also me calling her the Sustainer because that's her job title for the Heavenly Princles... Thus why the MC called her "The Unknown God"... WE don't have her name. lol I also thought of something stupid.... Childe might lose his constellation...... and he might get a new one as NEW playable unit. lol He's on a full Antivillain's path, he started by wanting to be a hero but fate forced his path down a morally grey one with the Fatui and his mind was altered in the abyss's corruption.
At the moment, If you play as Childe, The Vision on his character flickers with light. Do with that information what you will. (Edit: Could be interpreted as Childe's ambition is flickering, in a sense) God what if the Traveller was a Trailblazer that got stuck when Akavili died...
Would be funny if the final chapter would be the Astral Express making a stop to Teyvat to help solve this planet’s problem lol, say hi to March and Himeko
interesting theory as always! thank you for making videos, Ashikai! 31:38 seeing "Neutron Star" and "Black Hole" suddenly remind me of MUSE band (they have song titled "Neutron Star Collision" and "Supermassive Black Hole" ) . Can't wait when Genshin reaches cosmic universe suddenly there's reference to MUSE's song (just like Bohemian Rhapsody).
After watching your other video on the Gnosis' and how they can all represent kings of their own chess game, I find the vocabulary around "the King's seat" and everything so interesting!
17:20 I’d like to add more info about this because the full truth is actually really interesting. Spoilers for the Seven Karma Phala arc in Hi3!! The meteor that “seeded” the unnamed world in which this arc is set in is actually the ARK. The storyline’s not finished yet, but it’s hinted that the reason why the ARK crashing onto this unnamed planet is intentional (possibly caused by Vita, the antagonist of the HoRB arc, and Sa, the true antagonist of the Seven Karma Phala arc.)
with the revelations about the gnoses im now 200% more intrigued in what exactly the Tsaritsa is planning to do with them once she has them all 🤩🤩 I NEED SNEZHNAYA NOW PLEASE !!!
I thought similar to you. it's so weird since Rene wrote that basically teyvat has been in a samsara and this was going to be the last cycle, kind of like honkai impact. Maybe she is letting then grow and evolve so they can be ready to fight for themselves should anything happen to the gods... She could have killed them at the start of the game but she sealed them, and nahida thought that she might be silent but should something happen to the gnoses the sustainer wouldn't sit idly by so i think its quite obvious she is letting happen but i think it's because of all those external forces but not just kaenri'ah or the abyss, theres also the "night mother", the foul mentioned by skirk, the sinner, etc. That may be why celestia created the dome that makes teyvat skies, maybe they already are in a war against all these foes. I think what happend with kaenri'ah is they cursed their people since they did the same the dragon Nibelung in the past which was using abyssal power in their fight against the heavens, something way too catastrophic to the land, and maybe thats anither reason why they put the dome and cursed nation without gods, The constellation system may be to control all potential enemies, all the allogenes, similar to what we thought of visions being devices to keep tract on them and maybe use them as raw material to make more gnoses or other devices or components that behave like gnoses for other purposes
Neuvillette said that Gnosis enhanced elemental abilities and gives special power to the wielder. Thats it. The faith part does not require Gnosis. Raiden particularly doesnt need that to respond to the wishes of her people. It is stated multiple time. Ei shakra desiderata is litteraly the physical manifestation of carrying her nations wishes. (I think it is akin to gods) In the end of Narzissen questline René says that to be a descender does not mean automatically falling or coming from outside the universe but A descender is a someone with a Will that can defy the whole world.
That concept of defying the world's system/set laws did happen in Genshin's parent game Honkai. Another point of the chosen traveller being the 4th descender is related to Genshin's initial working title. Back then, Genshin was considered as the 4th Honkai game, until the fans in CN side decided on Genshin as the name. The Gnosis being made from the 3rd descender remains alludes to how the 3rd impact brought change to the respective world's linked to the imaginary tree, where Honkai and Genshin took place.
Yeah, even in the Furina death sentence scene, when we hear her say she's going to destroy the seat of the hydro archon, we thought the Gnosis is being destroyed. But no, the Gnosis was a separate entity and it would make sense when Nahida made that Gnosis destroying gamble with Dottore. It would also explain why she gave up her own Gnosis so easily for the "Sky is fake" info. Another thing is, Gnosis being a power amplifier would explain how the Akasha system ran on such a large scale. It also explains how the dude in Nahida's 1st archon wasn't omnipresent with his dream system.
I see, so... do you think the Gnosis is just another way of Celestia to bind the Archons? considering the archons already powerful enough even without one (proven by how Zhongli or Ei fight in the war even before receiving Gnosis, sorry I forgot about how Venti fought the war in the lore) but, I doubt Ei ever use the Gnosis for herself after Makoto's passing. before archons was concluded, she fought without it. after the archon war ended, Makoto was the holder of the Gnosis. after Makoto's death, Ei experiment on it for little time, gave it to Miko and rushes to PoE. Edit : the faith part, I agree with you, I just remember, the lore so far implying that the gods even before the archon war or get the title of an archon already called a god and have people worshipping them, this also means that they are already a master of their own element, i guess?
Yeah that was the only statement made that I disagreed with. I'd have to dig around a bit to find where this lore tidbit is, but one of Venti's earliest acts we learn about is his attempts to help the people of old Mondstadt before the rebellion. The more he helped people, the more they started to believe in him, the more his power grew, and he was able to use that power to help them.
The narwhale share alot of designe elements from hoyos other games, well i say alot i mean the tail in particular, when it comes the quantum element in HSR and HI3. So while it is described as a star beast, i wouldnt be surprised if its from the sea of quanta making it multiversal as well.
the gnosis being the remains of a descender made me think of a theory, where Teyvat is going through this cycle of descenders every now and then coming to Teyvat, this descender then proceeds to make huge, fundamental changes in the world of Teyvat, usually by overthrowing the previous dominat power using the power of the previous descender. It would make sense that Celestia, which is the current dominant power of Teyvat, would be very wary of any "aspiring rebellion" that may pop out in the world, they don't want to be overthrown the same way they probably did with the previous dominant force.
In the Narzissenkreuz world quest we learn that to be a Descender it's not enough to just fall from the heavens but posses a will to rival the world. That may explain why the Abyss twin isn't one and also means that by definition any being that qualifies has the potential to cause major changes. Although why then would the twins be barred from leaving? Seems like letting them go would remove them from being a problem.
I have a similar theory. Gnoses being remains of the 3rd descender could mean that the 2nd throne is still the dominant power of Celestia. It defeated the 3rd descender and used their remains as a tool to maintain power. Another possibility is the 3rd descender actually defeated the 2nd throne, but by will or force, the 3rd descender decentralized its existence and its power, delegating the supreme authority to each Archon. This can explain for the suspicious silence of Celestia since Khaenriah's destruction.
No Traveler also defeated Scaramouche with their own power. The only help they got was info on Scaramouche's abilities, through the new "Akasha", so no power-ups. Traveler has also defeated the whale. Just remember that Neuvillette told us he wouldn't be able to fight as he was trying to set up a trap to seal the Narwhal. So Traveller actually soloed the Narwhal for the large majority of the fight.
awesome theory and inside as always. Now I got an interesting idea on top of that: Following up that visions are parts of the original wish fulfilling "dragon balls", could it be Celestia's goal to weaken the dragons remaining star-authority over Teyvat literally by just handing the visions out in a controlled way? Weather or not the vision holder fulfills his wish, the vision's wish itself should either get used up or die out unfulfilled, right? And since the visions are "smaller wishes", they pose a rather low risk to actually threaten Celestia, too.
I have wondered before if the visions are Celestia’s way of taking advantage of a natural process of Teyvat. Like, even if Celestia never appeared, people with powerful wills and “wishes” would have received “draconic” visions. To go back to Ashikai’s “dragon pearls” theory, Vision Wielders would somehow serve the Dragon Sovereigns and the World as a whole, cumulating with turning into dragons of some sort themselves at the end of their “human” lives. This would bolster the dragon ranks with new dragons (it may even be the natural default “life cycle” for the people of Teyvat, if they are all “draconic” inclined). With Celestia having control of the Visions, she can “stop” this cycle, or at least prevent allogens from becoming too powerul.
On the topic of Gnosis and the Thrones. I actually had a thought that Gnosis might be some sort of a binding force rather that an almighty tool on its own. First of all, the archons authority over a particular element comes from the stolen part of the dragon’s authority of said element, the so-called Devine Throne. It is the Throne that makes them an Archon, not the Gnosis. And as soon as the Sword fell on Fosalor the Throne returned to Neuvi ASAP. Why? No physical Thrones were destroyed and the Gnosis remained intact so what exactly did the guillotine cut allowing the authority to return to Neuvi? The binding chain perhaps??? And what could thing force be? The force to defy fate perhaps? After all Gnosis basically grand the power of a dragon to those that should not have it => they defy the natural rule of this world, do they not? Maybe what the Traritsa seeks is not the dragon’s authorities but precisely that power to defy fate and rules of this world that the Gnosis have since they are a fragment of a 3rd Descender and all Descenders posses this fate defying power by default
Wild ass theory time! What if the female who falls in the battle pass story isn't Lumine as hinted by her look, but is in fact the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles, a star child sent to Teyvat to retrieve Nibelung's Dragon Pearl who was captured by Celestia, her divine star power stolen and her body and mind reforged into the Sustainer while the remains of her comsic power (her true self) were forged into Gnosis to keep her power in check. Sorry @Ashikai in advance if this theory seizes you
31:35 My brain auto corrected it to The path the tsartisa is taking The path the traveler is taking The path the abbys twin/oder is taking (It also matches their colour schemes)
31:39 i don’t know much abt stars but if our sister went down the abyss path and we are a descender able to reshape or destroy/create a world then perhaps our sister willingly went down the abyss path bc traveler takes the other route. maybe our sister knew abt this and thought the only way to rival celestia is to have both ying and yang, dark and light.
The one ginosis abilities reminds me of the essence of a Miracle Invoker from the web novel Lord of the Mysteries. Miracles or wishes are just momentarily, but the effects in fate are long lasting.
I have a very crack theory on what the tsaritsa's wish could be, that is probably going back in time to before the cataclysm or maybe just, reconstructing Kaenriah; it would explain why Pierrot speaks of la Signoras final grave as "the entirety of the old world" and how we could go to Kaenriah during chapter 8
But idk why she would want khaenriah back only? I think abyss is the one who wants to go back the time. Tsaritsas wish might be just recreating the whole world.
We know that the tsaritsa changed drastically only after the cataclysm, maybe she lost someone, maybe she felt compassion towards all those who did, maybe it’s something else. Either way, the key to most archon quest’s resolution has been Khaenri’ah@@ivefication
I feel like the 3rd desender was something the primordial one (the usper), the second who came (still no clue who that is) and the Sovereigns were force to team up against seeing as this would have predated the concept of archons and the Gnosises also contain the Sovereigns authority. Loose allience to deal with the bigger threat. Probably spearheaded by the Soverign Apep refers to as a traitor, then the Primoridal One somehow steals the dragons power too mid final battle. The Terista is trying to revive the 3rd all castlevaina style not knowing better, Venti and Zhongli go along with it because reasons.
We know the second was also a Throne like the first and after they arrived the fighting flared up again although it's not clear who was fighting who. The Gnosis contain or enhance elemental power but are not the stolen authority, that is the thrones (not to be confused with Thrones a type of celestial being).
The second who came could be the outlander that marries the seele ancestor, although if that's the case they're probably wandering Teyvat without a clue since their memory was wiped (that passage sounds really suspicious post-3.2, the outlander's memories were probably messed with by Irminsul directly). The third could be Nibelung. Since the PO's power has been compromised since that ancient war I don't see it teaming up with all these other threats just to take down one descender.
Discovered this channel recently and mostly play casual. (I need genshin friends lol) But i like just listening to these long essays about games with tons of lore and world building. Good stuff 👍
I figured Nighttime Layla's ramblings in that Darshan event would come up at so point, it's such a weirdly specific observation to make that fits in too well with what we already know.
Your talent to find relevant or related information at the furthest reaches of the web is outstanding, as is the way you connect them. I always start watching theory videos for games with a "negative" take (for lack of a better term), trying to find holes to disprove them (regardless if I have the same views before starting the video). And you always manage to turn me around or solidify my own views.
It feels like throughout our journeys in Teyvat, the traveler isn't a solo hero saving the world, they are the extension of the people's wish around them. In liyue, the adepti channel their power to the traveler; during the Raiden fight, the people's desire and visions were concentrated into the traveler; to beat Scara, not only the Traveler get 168th cycle samsara info, he was also given the knowledge of every vision wielder in Sumeru. If a gnosis is an extension to amplify one's authority of power, it would make sense the traveler themselves is the gnosis not of an archon nor Celestia, but the entirety of Teyvat.
I hope you pay attention to Childe losing the control of his vision, the Foul Legacy description in the archive and combine it with “Io, Io Pan” scribbles.
What if, Paimon's crown is a crown (and not a tiara) - which means the back of her crown has a missing part (from where we "fished" her out at first) and once we find it and make her crown complete, she will regain her full powers
When i was playing through the AQ and Skirk told me that the Gnosis are the remains of the 3rd Descender i immediately pictured Ashikai having a Jontron "what the fuck" reaction to that information
Neuvituluete giving Furina a vision and having mastery over pneumosia is probably why Furina can switch between the two! Edit: welp What if these "thrones" that are apart of constellations are their own constellations? Edit 2: welpp
It’s worth mentioning that wandere almost DID become a god, hence he’d have a better chance of having a constellation reflecting himself in a way, the only thing he didn’t reach the “divinity” of a god Or the “spiritual” level of a god so, even if he didn’t “ascend” he was a god. In so, his constellation reflects that, reflects that of one’s self. As he was once a type of god.
you didn't mention the Narwhale description when talking about the fake Sky. The Ruler of Teyvat (which is prob Celestia) casted a shield on the world to protect it (which is prob the fake sky), it's quite interesting, you should read it Ashikai
27:39 I just want to point out the Battle Pass Cutscene, If the traveler is tasked to get everyone on board to get his throne, as Ashikai mentions, then the cutscene would be about the Kingdom of the Stars meaning the Other twin WAS a descender but was defiled. They weren't summoned, Khaenriah interfered with the "descension" which marks what a descender is by summoning them, and therefore the player's traveler is sent to rectify it and bring the failed descender back to the Kingdom of Stars (OPENING CUTSCENE). But, the "Arrogation of Man" (which should be Man (Khaenriah) interfering with the descension and maybe corrupting the descender) made the Heavenly Principles stop them so as to undo the interference Khaenriah did to the other twin.
So if by receiving a vision, one becomes a prisoner of fate - could it explain the vision hunt decree in Inazuma? If Ei or her puppet somehow realized this, deeming the given visions as a threat to eternity? Since they could assume that being bound by fate has some kind of an end?
I think that Ei said to us that the vision hunt was not her idea, but the fatui's, which kinda manipulated the shogun into enforcing it, Ei knew it but didn't stop it... This is what I believe to remember tho, I could be wrong
@@sophie99sam You're right - I completely forgot about that. Still, could it be linked somehow? Like the fatui got some kind of intel or information from Traritsa? But that would be too much of a stretch I think, so probably not...
Notes for around the 18:00 mark-- Ashikai mensions the Traveler being "compatible" with the original systems of Teyvat that would've belonged to the dragons. In Natlan, the Traveler, for NO REASON AT ALL, is able to read the phlogiston inscriptions; dragon tech that apparently can't be controlled by humans AT ALL.
Do you think "thrones" might have some symbolic connection to the angels known as Ophanim? The Christian term for an Ophan is "throne" and their physical descriptions as "wheels within wheels" look very similar to the fates we use for wishing.
Keep up the good work Ashikai! Most of your theories have become true, and that one video you made about this people of Fontaine being Oceanids really made sense. It was a good shock to me when that turned out to be true in the Archon Quest. Thanks for making such great videos for us!!!
the narwal sounds so much like the Aeon Oroboros in star rail (who disappeared after they consumed the swarm). They are also called "The drinker of worlds, the unsatisfied devourer, the black hole with thought".
Great video! Was pleasantly surprised to see a clip of Eris from the Sinbad movie. I've long stopped playing Genshin due to the cycle of burnout whenver I try to get into it, but I still appreciate the beauty and complexity of its lore and design. So thanks for putting out these videos and unpacking all these things for active and inactive players alike
Your theories are very well thought out, fun, and thought provoking, but one of my favorite things are your concise and thorough recaps of the quests. Love them sm :3
Something to consider: in Judeo-Christian myth, Thrones are one category of angelic beings. The destruction of the Hydro throne coincides with Focalors's death. I'm not sure if that would make the Archons their own thrones, or if the thrones are something outside but linked to them.
10:23 I know this was before remuria but "responding to wishes indiscriminately and not being able to tell the difference between a good wish and a bad wish" is exactly what happened with phobos
The whole traveler being a wish granter along with their twin is so cool if you think back to the shooting star design the traveler has. Also the fact that Mona can't read Venti or Traveler's constellations because they are reflections of themselves is because the facts if these beings shake the world so much it would be the same as creating a prophecy, which is most likely how to Fontainian prophecy came about, some strong mage.
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**NOTES/CORRECTIONS**
- I am aware that the translation for constellations in Chinese is more literally translated into "constellation of destiny" rather than "destiny seat" but ALSO realize that we're looking at the wordplay here as well. Hoyo *really* loves puns and using words/phrases with double meanings, and the sheer amount of these that have come up in the past and became relevant/functioned as foreshadowing makes digging into these instances of wordplay almost a necessity.
- The same can be said for the Shen Yuan/Yuan Shen situation. Despite putting the characters on screen at the same time, a lot of people seem to have missed the disclaimers.
The funny thing is that wordplay is very common in Chinese (not just Hoyoverse), so I'm not sure why people are complaining about it. We also have to take note that the English localization may be flawed as there are some things that cannot be localized accurately without any context of the wordplay. I think you did a good job about that there.
Here's some pronunciation tips if you want to read Genshin in Chinese closer to the native reading: the yuán in yuánshén is pronounced similar to the yue in Liyue with an n at the end (the sound is similar to saying yee but the lips shape a yoo), while the shén in yuánshén is like the shen in Shenhe. So a close approximation of the reading is yuenshun (both with rising tones).
I feel there was a bit of information from a melusine side quest (the one with Canotila) you could have used to reinforce the star/dragon thing about the traveler.
Don’t think so
I think the new event just made your theory real.
The fact that the traveler could see the child means he/she can see wishes more than anyone.
Ashikai, hello! I hope you are doing well :) Recently I've been re-watching loads of your videos, but can't find one particularly dear and intriguing to me (I adore colour theories). It's content is a thorough speculation on primordial energy and it's cyan colour. I simply can't find it and feel desperate. Could you please give me a hint?
From the beginning of the game we have had multiple characters saying that receiving a Vision comes with a great price, and apparently we now know what that price is:
You become a prisoner of Fate, which is a system created by the Heavenly Principles to keep Teyvat under control.
Edit: some of the following are theories(based mostly from Ashikai’s), but so far the way it explains the fate system is very coherent.
(assuming it's the King star that dictates their fates). Firstly archon constellations are compromised by Celestia through archon system.
Since Furina’s divinity(Focalors) was destroyed and her divinity was the king star in her constellation, wouldn't Furina's current king star(vision) then be Neuvillette's own constellation prince star?
(consider that Archon system and Vision system are similar but in different tier) in Furina's case her constellation's "King star" (divinity/celestial throne/Focalors) was destroyed and then she regained a connection to the constellation by getting a vision, which is part of Hydro dragon’s constellation stars or a piece of his authority/prince stars, that makes her not subject to Celestia's prepositioned fate because her vision isn’t connected to powers/authorities that aren’t compromised by Celestia.
the parallel to this system is the vision system where the vision is either the King star or the connection of a constellation to the elemental/elemental-authority constellations, an analogy for what happened to Furina’s divinity would be: if a vision holder’s vision was destroyed.
since her constellation was incomplete when the King star was destroyed it "realigned" with a star. either through:
1.)because it's the closest or most similar to the original star in the past, she was a Hydro Archon candidate itfp so it’s no shock that her missing part could be replaced by something from the embodiment of Hydro authority.
2.) it simply realigned with some parts of her(Focalors) that returned to Neuvillette's constellation.(scandalous, but it makes sense)
3.) idk, Neuvillette gave it to her? like number 1 but from Neuvillette's side. however we’re yet to know if the constellation system are also innate like Vision system, meaning if it can be decided which star connects to which constellation and vice versa, if not then it wasn’t a “choice” but rather fate/meant-to-be (basically it’s the universe who decides)
4.) her constellation manifested its own king star(is it even possible for a human?)
24:24 interestingly this parallels how Focalors invited him to be somewhat of a King(star) of his own under an "Archon" without king star and in a theater controlled by Celestia, now it's the other way around(though in a lowkey kind) and now Furina has a king star of her own that isn't subject to Celestia's control, very poetic.
could this also mean Furina can ascend beyond heavens and become her own constellation (like Dragons) when she gets strong enough or Neuvillette allows her to? (well according to Ashikai theory atleast)
I realized I have cooked alot.
Which makes you think about Lisa, who is stated to be slacking off for the purpose of avoiding that price.
why does this lowkey sound like how society is today
@nose_flute_girl7428 ah yes, we live in a "matrix"
@@DeviL_4939 💀💀💀
So Khaenriya lost the 50/50 when summoning the twins
Help???? 😭
because Celestia happened
It possible that both of them are descender but Abyss twin probably answered to the Wish of the Abyss instead of Kheanriah or they was corrupted by will of abyss and lost their descender status cause u know, they can't no longer carry will of the World because abyss wish to destroy the world(specifically abyss order not abyss itself but their goal might be aligned).
Nah, if they did it, they’d get a QiQi instead.
@@shiroxkuro934 interesting, but we dont know if someone can be ''corrupted'' and lost their descender status, but thinking that what give this status to them is a desire, something that can change, if her desire changed then that would make sense, now in back in sumeru if i remember correctly Nahida says that we arent registered by the tree bcause we arent from Teyvat, but for some reason our twin does, and that make us think that maybe our twin isnt really our twin anymore, that also would make sense with your idea of our twin being corrupted, maybe someone did something to our twin, cause she doesnt seems to be the head in control of it all, to make her desire be for the abyss and khaenriah, and that change took her descender status and made her registered by the Irminsul...
Crazy how some of us use to thought that focalor will be on the heavenly principal side base on dan's voice line in the trailer it turned out she was the one who gave Celestia the biggest middle finger.
such a pleasant surprise!
Plot twist plot twist everywhere - buzz lightyear
It was nice to see her actually be the archon of justice lol(even though she’s not the archon anymore)
@@amochikaayFocalors is no longer the "Archon" because she's already dead :'). Furina cannot be considered an "Archon", for she only played the role of one, is a copy of Focalors, and is also a (perfect) "human being" as per Focalors state before she died. But no matter what, Furina still got recognition as an Archon from other Archons even though she is not :') She deserves that recognition, however. 500 years acting as another person to save her nation while trying to maintain her true identity and sanity, her (and Focalors) sacrifices are beyond anything honestly.
@@catnapncatty I would like to do a bit correction here. Furina is not a copy of Focalors. She is a part of her, Focalors's human part. As Ashikai also said, Furina being the human part while focalor being the pure divine part.
if traveler are wish granters, that explains something for me. during random reward events in game where the npc is in the middle of nowhere in the map, i always wondered how traveler able to know where they are. it now seems that they are actually responding to their wish. the npc were always pondering how to complete whatever task and all of the sudden the traveler arrives as if blessing from the gods
That actually sounds legit
Especially with that HELP HELPP yelling npc 😂
And we grow stronger (by gaining experience) from granting people’s wishes! Puts a lot of fetch quests into perspective for me 😅
So that's why the npcs always say that we're like a gift from the stars 😂
If teleport point are canon and the fact that they have an cannon explanation for Katherine being everywhere then this might as well be Canon/has high chances of being cannon
Kept thinking "oh shi ashikai was right" throughout almost the entire 4.2 quest and boy ive been waiting for what do you have to say for the new loredrops in it. Finally momma's cooking again and i'm hungy
I did the same thing. It was really cool to see the pieces she predicted slowly fall into place.
I was also huuungry for some ashikai juicy videosss
I was shooketh since EVERY theory I had seen were all correct, including this one.. SHOCK
@@Hy-BridAbroad the theories were originally from Reddit users though
@@Best-Human I'm aware that portions of them were from reddit users. Props to them
If Celestia is using the Vision/Gnosis and the constellations/sky/stars as a way to control fate, then the phrase: "In Teyvat, the stars in the sky will always have a place for you" from the loading screen, suddenly got a lot more ominous
This actually gave me the chills
oh. Oh. oh. i don't. like that.
I actually think that Venti and Zhongli are aware of the "curse" of the remains of the Third Descender which was why they were both too willing to let go of theirs. It also explains why Venti didn't think too much of Signora taking his gnosis.
Same, I'm with you on this one.
They're just waiting for someone to steal the Gnosis cuz they know it will only just bring lots of misfortune to their nation
venti wasnt exactly weak, he must had let the fatui ''steal'' his gnosis that easy...
@@Uummifr he was holding back
@@Uummi It was indirectly stated by Venti he already knew Signora was there
It's interesting that, about Furina's vision, one could say that she regained her ambition during the Little Oceanid performance, considering that she didn't want to perform on stage anymore.
its not that she does't want to perform, she just doesn't want to act as someone else.
coincidentally the story is parallel to her and she can just act as herself
I agree that it was the right moment for her to gain the vision, made it impactful aswell.
but you know i have been wondering since 4.2
why did Furina not receive a vision before? this is a question some other ppl have aswell
here was my thought process:
we know that she started hating acting until her passion got rekindled in her story quest. key word being "rekindled" which means she loved acting before aswell, so what stopped her from gaining a vision if this is what caused her to gain it? well the reason is that she actually gained an ambition, she says it so herself. it's something akin to wanting to hear true stories of people aswell as guiding performers, aka being sort of a director and a guide.
but here is where i hit a roadblock for a bit
while she gained an ambition and received a vision for it, she did have an ambition before, it was to save Fontaine by sacrificing herself and suffering for them. She used acting as a means to achieve that goal so why not gain a vision? it would ruin the entire plan because if you gain a vision it means you are not an Archon so Focalors's plan would have failed very early on. Hell Focalors even tells Furina "i suppose this is 'justice' that belongs to you" so she should have gained Hydro vision in response to her own justice right?
but after this i believe i reached my answer(cracked the code even if it's not straight up confirmed)
Furina did not receive a vision because of a simple reason that was already explained in the story, it's because she was an Archon, 2/3rds of it in fact(body and spirit) while Focalors(divinity) is only 1/3rd.
If Ashikai's theory about constellation in this video is true then that means Furina is all the prince stars of the constellation while Focalors is the king star. Furina was not able to receive a vision because king star(divinity), although it was split from herself, still existed meaning that she was connected to it aswell as connected to the Gnosis. Of course she gained no power from the Gnosis because it all went to king star part of the constellation AKA divinity. Archons can't gain actual legit visions, since they have gnosis and are just straight up ascended, so Furina in a similar fashion straight up could not do it while divinity part of herself still remained and WAS able to gain it after it got executed/destroyed.
There are some people who think that Furina was never an Archon which is just incorrect if anything i said is remotely true. at this point from what we know, she was 2/3rds of an Archon(or by another interpretation all the prince stars) which made her an Archon but not a full Archon, same with Focalors. Since both of them were alive they together made a complete Archon although in split form, while now since Focalors is gone Furina stays as body and spirit...which is similar to a human who is able to gain a vision, but also kinda different because she has her own constellation same as beings like Dragons,Archons, Pseudo archons?(Scaramouche?) and Traveler.
While Furina was singing she was asked "But what about your wish?" So she probably wished for something and her ambition was rewarded with a vision. I mean come on, we all knew Neuvillete wanted to give her a vision as soon as he was able to anyway.
Remember that people without their visions lose their ambitions. Being given a vision gives the person the ambition to fulfill their wishes. Being given a delusion is to falsely give into ideals that aren't your own but depend on that ideal for the power that comes with it. We lost Teppei in Inazuma to a delusion and saw the addiction to it he possessed before his passing. In a way, Visions give life's purpose to a person while Delusions take away life.
In Neuvillette's voiceline About Furina, he says that "if she were ever to make a return to the stage, I should personally attend the performance and give her my heartfelt applause... yes, I must do so when the opportunity arises"
I think her vision was granted due to a combination of her realizing that she can use the stage to explore humanity now instead of denying it, plus Neuvillette supporting her new goal
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Fun fact about the Narwhal: he is actually called "Sternenverschlingender Narwal" in the German version, which literally means "star devouring narwhal" so the translation team agrees with you
... I like that German name better, sounds badass af dude
Germans version of Vision is also : Göttliches auge.
Wich also means that the translation team agrees with Ashikai
I was wondering if childe’s vision was acting up because he was about to realize his ambition… like what happens if a vision wielder gets their original wish granted or has their original ambition radically changed?
But i like the idea of childe having a rouge vision granted by a random star beast
that would be so funny tbh
He got defective vision
what was his ambition really? kill the whale or be the stronger in the world? he kind of say to us in his status that he want to conquer the world and all....
@@Uummi He's Childe, dude doesn't have much an ambition beyond fighting strong people and protecting the fam. He's basically Genshin's Goku. Conquer the world is mostly just a metaphor in his case for saying he wants to be the strongest. That ambition likely wouldn't be fulfilled actually conquering the world, especially if politics ended up giving him it without a fight. Heck, if he found out there's other worlds/universes out there with stronger people than in Teyvat, the goal post for him would definitely be moved to being stronger than them. In general his ambition is one that just won't be fulfilled ever for someone as optimistic as he is unless he has no regrets with the fam (e.g. they can do perfectly fine without him) and he's already past his prime going out in a blaze of glory against a worthy opponent.
@@KanethedragonYeah, childe is basically what if Goku never hit his head as a toddler and stay as Kakarot but somehow still affected by grandpa Gohan kindess. Resulting in somewhat of an Anti-Hero.
- The Travelers are Shooting Stars
- At the beginning of the game two golden stars are shown falling in Teyvat
- We know that Khaenri'ah summoned the Travelers from beyond the firmament
*Conclusion:* The two golden stars at the beginning of the game are the Travelers being summoned by Khaenri'ah in a similar way to the Wish system we use to summon characters.
So the question is is they win the 50/50 or not?🤔
The namecard Achievements: Orbit basically yells this out loud
@@Tiyac3 Probably lose the 50/50 since the sibling you chose was a descender and the other sibling who woke up in Khaenri'ah didn't have the status xD
@@Tiyac3 i meaaan Khaenri'ahns kinda got nuked so i wouldn't say they won the 50/50... wait are we as useless as Qiqi
@@Tiyac3we are on the hard pity
I wonder if the traveler will is so strong because of their wish to rescue their sibling. Maybe that was the plan of the heavenly principles, to separate them to make their will strong enough to make them a descender. That would explaing why the sibling is not a descender, because they were not put in this path. Paimon's role must have something to do with this too.
The reason lumine is not descender is because she is dead.
😢
@@syarifairlangga4608 Okay two things, Lumine (I assume you mean abyss twin) is not dead, and theres is nothing to suggest she is, as far as I know, and also, being dead does not take away your status as a descender, as proven by the third descender being dead but still being referred to as a descender.
@@syarifairlangga4608 third descender is dead, not lumine lol
@@syarifairlangga4608 Lumine isn't dead?? Where did you get that from?
@@lilaclily1730 i think they said that because there's some theories saying teyvat is stuck in a samsara cycle and only once you die are you recorded in irminsul. people believe the abyss twin was sent 500 years in the past, travelled teyvat, and then died. idk how they're still alive im assuming the abyss saved them or something (idk much about the theory i literally just heard about it a few moments ago in another video) but now their destiny is to stop the cycle however this can only be possible with a power from beyond so it's up to us bc we aren't sealed in the fate of teyvat unlike our sibling
Let her cook
Omg frfr no cap finna be bussin bro deadass bet.
I can’t believe I watched a person talk for 34 minutes and its like eating a 5 star Michelle’s chef course meal
@@casuals.3.19 I love Michelle's food
Nah stop letting her cook or else the food will burn
@@siege_senseiyou are unhinged lmao
22:25 Dainslef also says this in the Tevat Storyline trailer:
"The gods goad us on with the promise of their seven treasures. Rewards for the worthy. The doorway to divinity.
Yet buried in the depths of this world lies smoldering remains: a warning to those that dare tresspass.
'That throne in the sky is not reserved for you.' "
Just thought it should be mentioned 😊
Given some recent commentaries on allogens I think getting a vision basically means finding your place in this World, the role you are supposed to hold on the stage that is tevyat
The "reading backwards" pun in Chinese (despite different characters and inflections) is a thing Hoyo has done in Genshin before! I'm copying this post I found on Twitter:
CN Genshin fans found something shocking abt the CN title of Fontaine Act V, "罪人舞步旋" (zuì rén wǔ bù xuán), or "Dance Steps of the Guilty."
Reversed, it becomes "旋步舞人罪" (xuán bù wǔ rén zuì), which is almost phonetically identical to the phrase "宣布无人罪" (xuān bù wú rén zuì), where only the inflections of the first and third characters are slightly different.
The meaning of "宣布无人罪?" "DECLARATION: NONE ARE GUILTY."
This needs more attention, that's such good wordplay that basically foreshadowed the quest's ending from the moment the first fontaine trailer waas dropped!
Wow That's amazing
Now this makes you wonder, what happens if we reverse other titles of idk archons qeust or something...I bet some people tried
Do we get something or nothing
Surtalogi might have a connection to Boughkeeper , ..both coming from north mythology, him being the twilight sword and also having the Quantum blackhole in his official background .
What if I told you surtalogi is another name for twilight sword(dainslief)
@@hoque_01 you are right ?? But Dains design doesn’t match with her at all 😭 unless he gets a redesign.
he will or will not, we will see later, i suggest you to check out the teyvat travail trailer, you will see how much it makes sense from his perspective.
@@Boughkeeper88umm? Why would they need similar designs?
Besides both have out of teyvat character designs
@@liaartist3671 from dainslief "we will defy this world with a power from beyond"
the similarities are there, surtalogi is def using same sort of powers? who knows but dain fits the bill cause kanrea is a norse inspired nation so eh.😅
The thing about Neuvillette reestablishing his kings throne in his constellation is funny to me because there was a bug fix to his c6 when 4.2 came out. Assuming his c6 is his kings throne and it being fixed on the update that established he got his authority back is a funny little coincidence to me
This ties in quite nicely with what I cooked up after this patch! It also links to Nahida's riddle about Visions - I think a person receives a Vision when they "see" their fate. Their ambition, their wish, is so strong as to become certain in their own mind - almost like a premonition, or perhaps... a vision. The Vision then crystallizes to grant their wish, which naturally becomes their fate. Celestia then inscribes that fate upon a constellation to enforce it.
I wonder if the power of Geo is involved in that crystallization. Of all the elements, dendro and geo are not in either HI3 or HSR. Dendro is linked to Irminsul, the network of memories that is at the core of Teyvat, and Geo might be the element that keeps it all together.
The power of Geo to crystallize other elements is quite something, and not only does it crystallize those, it also is able to crystallize the "vitality" of dragon blood; look at Durin and Elynas.
This makes Zhongli even more suspicious of what kind of entity he really is, and also raises questions about his statement of visions being a kind of "contract"(crystallization), and his "contract to end all contracts".
That also paints an interesting contrast with the Delusions. A Vision shows a person what they must do to fill that set role in on the stage. Whereas a Delusion gives that person a false impression of that role that runs counter to fate. The key difference being that those who use the Vision power their use of the elements with a greater power, and the power of a Delusion more or less uses the person themselves as a battery - something that eventually leads to death even if a few people have shown increased resilience to it as compared with others. Perhaps something like a "deep" delusion versus a "shallow" delusion.
And then there's the aspect of where each comes from. Visions are granted as a piece of an Archon's power - those who won the Archon War and were chosen by Celestia to usher in a particular path for fate. The gods who lost and died - if I recall correctly - could be used as building materials for Delusions. Their version of fate - now rejected - could only result in delusions for what the future should be, rather than a true Vision.
Oh, oh. And that even tracks with the Traveler's reaction to said dead god materials. Since the Travelers seems to be something like a walking Gnosis in some regards as a Descender, it only makes sense that the Gnosis equivalent of a Delusion - dead god essence - would cause them harm. As we see from Childe, it's incredibly damaging to use a Vision and Delusion at the same time. So that actually explains why the Traveler reacted so negatively when exposed to that material even while the Baladeer and Paimon were entirely unaffected.
It's weird that you can just take off running on a theory that just seems to fall in place while you're just talking about it. Even when there's a good chance it will just be totally or at least partially wrong later. Maybe that's all part of the fun.
@@aramythr5965 Geo is curious because as far as I can recall, we've really not gotten a lot of direct information about what Authority over Geo entails. We mostly just know that it entails the concept of "contracts" and that Mora is somehow tied to it (along with the obvious control over Geo). Mora in particular is worth paying attention to - despite being treated as a currency, it doesn't feel like too much of a stretch to say that its properties as a "catalyst" are the true value of Mora. Mora's use as a catalyst would imply that Geo is the element that catalyzes reinforcement, transmutation, and alchemy... which quite neatly ties in to how Albedo describes it. "Soil - the origin of alchemy, the basis of all life."
This would also provide a means for Mora to be produced by the leylines - since Mora is made from, presumably, soil and Geo, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a leyline to accumulate enough Geo energy to create a small batch of Mora. I think it would actually be pretty cool if that all tied in to explain the leyline blossoms. All of the other resin rewards have some kind of explanation, so it feels right. It may also mean that the Geo Gnosis is only necessary to create Mora insofar as it contains the requisite Authority to mint "true Mora" which has all of the lovely catalytic properties we know and love.
Needless to say, Zhongli has certainly lived up to his contract. He's managed to have a huge amount of time on screen while hardly divulging anything about the true nature of the world.
@@thenerdempire With all the talk of Visions, Delusions, and the stars, the Funerary Mask item text feels incredibly appropriate. One part in particular stands out: "Perhaps it is fair to say that only those who possess an obsession close to or even exceeding the level of *delusion* might be willing to join this group that so rebels against the Heavenly Principles, binding their remaining days to their Delusions and burning as brightly as *stars* ." If a Vision is a lesser fragment of a star, then a Delusion is a means to burn away a life such that it resembles a star.
The item text also mentions that Fatui forsake their true names and faces when they join. I can't help but wonder if this is a means to remove individual ambition from the rank-and-file Fatui to _prevent_ them from receiving Visions. If your ambition/wish is not tied to your own life, but to the Tsaritsa, then what could you see other than *her* wishes fulfilled? Since the fate you reach for is not your own, you cannot earn a Vision. However, this ALSO means that your fate will not be carved into the stars, and you may yet be able to play a part in the Tsaritsa's grand plan to defy Celestia.
It really is fun to make theories like this - and sometimes, it's almost uncanny how close the community gets to the truth even with limited information.
there are still many flaws with this. MANY NPC's have great ambitions or determination but never got a vision. rana got a vision (absolutely not deserved in my opinion), same with furina. they had no great ambitions. some aranara also had great ambition, same as pari , same as melusines and didn't get a vision (sigewinne wont count since she is obviously baited for the fandom as human girl again). take garcia. to me he also deserves a vision but wont get any. I still more think that the divine choose people (remember, vision = eye of god), to monitor the tinier people. Or more, humans with too great ambition might grow and become competition to the divine. By giving them visions and monitor and control their fate they can make sure that it wont happen. Remember, Venessa ascended and was sent back as bird, her whole power got stripped away from her as "ascension" because she grew "too big" to the gods. In our ascension mats , exp and cons it says even a mortal might become someone divine through this to ascend. Means more constellations, vision, more exp AND traveler (all friendship lines are indicator of traveler's presence makes each person stronger and closer to ascend) brings them straight up to celestia to basially "take away all that they are so they are unarmed"
25:30 that makes sense bc when the Melusines wanted to read Neuvillettes constellation, it said in his character story that he doesn’t have a constellation bc his constellation is just Neuvillette. 🤭
26:40 yupp
Wait so his real constellation is just his name?
Not a shape/image?
Just his Name spelled Neuvilette with stars!?
@@lowliethxd1471 yup, and his constellation shape is basically himself imagining what his dragon form would look like lmao. Man is headcanoning his own constellation XD
@@Newspaper.Ojisan he imagines what his dragon form would look like? He doesn't have a physical dragon form? I thought he transformed into human form after Focalors asked him to be the Iudex?
@@xero5727 So far as we know, nope. He was already prophesied to be born in human form, and also because hydro vishaps were experimented on by orobashi to prevent the rebirth of hydro sovereign. Because of this, Hydro vishaps were contaminated with other elements so hydro dragon sovereign needs a pure vessel to be reborn.
Edit : I'm half joking about him imagining his form, it was never directly stated. It's just like what op said, melusines love to read astrology and wanted to know his constellation (which he doesn't have one because his cons is just himself).
I can't laugh enough to the fact that Neuvilette has just become not only the Sovereign of Hydro and the God of Life but ALSO the Sovereign of LORE DROP. THIS MAN IS MASSIVE!!
I find it so mindblowing how small details from 3 years ago have huge implications for the overall narrative. The entire story is airtight with zero plot-holes or retcons. Everything has been written carefully since day 1 and we only get tiny details for what’s going on
holy shit
holy shit indeed
holy shit perhaps
JAKE?
that's what i'm saying.
So, about the space dragon theory, Focalors says to Neuvillette (during THAT scene): "In other words, this was all done to return the authority of the Hydro Archon to the Hydro Dragon of THIS PLANET." The wording struck me as odd but with that theory, it makes a lot of sense.
It doesn't mean anything. Don't think too deep on that. It's just flowery poetic writing. It's not like Focalors knows they have hydro dragons on other planets or that other planets even exist.
Amateur genshin lore enjoyer. @@marcusaurelius4777
@@marcusaurelius4777 to be fair, when asked "who would keep an all-devouring narwhal as a pet?" Skirk replies with "i know, such a waste of a planet's primordial waters", if only focalors said something like that i would agree with it being just rethoric, but who knows, maybe theres more to it?
@@marcusaurelius4777 in a game like genshin where there are a lot of people working on the lore and hinting at them in the smallest of details, it wouldn't be wise to dismiss something just because it's often used as a way to dramatize something, because using commonly seen phrases like these is the best way to hide crucial information in plain sights
@@marcusaurelius4777 Out of all game studios, Hoyoverse is the LAST one you wanna apply this kind of statement to.
If there's one thing Hoyoverse absolutely LOVES to do... It's foreshadowing stuff right under our noses, Honkai Impact 3rd is literally filled to the brim with that kind of stuff and both Genshin and Star Rail have shown foreshadowing when it comes to lore stuff, especially so with their Light Cones/Relics and Weapons/Artifacts.
And like Ashikai herself said in many of her videos... Hoyoverse simply DON'T do coincidences, and that has been proven lord knows how many times now.
So yeah, definitely wouldn't dismiss what OP said. Not when Hoyo's in charge.
10:10 Could this be why the extra material you get from Wishes (i.e. rolling on banners) is called "Masterless Stardust"? It's dust of the power to grant wishes, without one to judge those wishes good or ill.
I forgot about the thrones until I just rewatched the quest where the Shogun killed Signora. When the traveler challenged La Signora to a duel, they said “I challenge you to a duel before the throne”, which I think was interesting, because there wasn’t actually any physical throne there. They were only in front of the Shogun/Ei
Yea Honkai 3rd has been paralleling Genshin's themes for a while, Hoyoverse explores the same themes from different perspectives in each game. Even the most unassuming character like Baizhu directly quotes the final antagonist of Honkai 3rd, who he has the same VA and said something that very closely resembles the final arc of Honkai 3rd part 1. The current arc almost parallels the history of Teyvat's formation, an ark from the previous era 50000 years ago crashed landed on a planet and the life seeding and terraforming contents leaked onto the planet, vastly changing it's ecosystem. This planet then underwent multiple cycles of destruction. I feel that Celestia and the Primordial One did not intentionally invade Teyvat, they might have "crash landed" here or was summoned for some reason.
What I think Celestia is about as someone who experienced previous Honkai's stories: Hoyoverse antagonists are never "evil" for "evil" sake, they all fight for reasons of higher purpose and always involve preserving the rights to live, for civilisation to survive, to beat destiny. I believe Celestia is setting up "tests" for civilisation to survive beyond this world. Every time a civilisation reaches a point where they feel like they can actively challenge Celestia, Celestia will accept their challenge with full force, because if they can't beat Celestia, they have absolutely no chance of surviving outside this world. It's a cruel test, if you can't beat them, you'll be destroyed, civilisation will be restarted and rebuilt for another samsara to take the test again with lessons from previous civilisations.
All Vision bearers are people who pass the primary school exam, and the reward is that they get to steal power from Celestia. What Celestia wants is entire civilisations to steal all power from Celestia, so that they become mature enough to reach into the stars. As Dr MEI from Honkai 3rd said: "All the stars are enemies", every star out there contains countless other civilisations, they will take from you one day if you don't get ready for them. Your dreams aren't yours alone, it's the entire civilisation's dreams vs every other dream out there. Celestia is tough love, they want to make sure all children on this planet will grow up ready for the real world. They will represent the values and sacrifices of all 7 Archons, what we learned from all of them.
The final chapter of Honkai 3rd part 1 traced and tied everything we ever experienced all the way back to chapter 1, answering every question and reminding us of every message we learned, all characters we met and the path we took to meet destiny, I believe Genshin will do the same. We will find out the secrets that Venti dare not speak about, the contracts that Celestia kept, we will learn about the eternal cycles, unlock wisdom beyond the firmament, face true judgement and go to war against the stars. One day we will beat the destiny that Heavenly Principles has decided, the final exam and be ready for the universe outside when we steal back all the authority that Celestia has kept in custody.
I've always had a weird cyclical feeling to Genshin's story, how things are repeating themselves, but a bit different each time so your theory is very compelling to me. This resolution would be a bit lackluster to me though, I don't know.
The Fake Sky does make sense🤷
Bro is cooking HARD
Well it IS the TEYVAT CHAPTER 🤔. Love this theory so much commenting so i can go back when the game ends.
Damn such a great theory.
"That throne in the sky is not reserved for you."
But mortal arrogation never stops.
This line from the Travail Trailer means so much more now.
But why Mortal? Isn't it supposed to be the usurper arrogation never stops?
@@tristanmanalo6252 Consider the definition of arrogation: to claim unwarrantably or presumptuously; assume or appropriate to oneself without right.
The meaning of 'mortal' in this case is a little odd though. Many beings in the world are long-lived or divine in nature, but not defined exclusively as 'immortal'. Dain himself is one of the few beings that has been specifically stated to be cursed with immortality.
In my mind, he's still commenting on Celestia. But, that's just my opinion on it.
i think he comment on khaenriah and their ambition to dethrone celestia
@@cbfranklin even after scara become false god he was still calling traveller a mortal......so of course they can be trying to throw us different path
15:37 speaking of dragon pearl, Toriyama's Dragon Ball is written as 七龙珠 (7 dragon pearls) in Chinese.
But in Genshin story, it really feel like it's the Fatui harbingers that go around the world collecting 7 Gnosis like they're collecting 7 Dragon balls 😂
As if they can wish for something once all 7 are put in the same place.
yeah, and all the talk about people using dragon jewel to ascent remind me of the last episode ofDBGT, where Goku absorb all the dragonball and proceed to go somewhere with shenron, probably a higher plane of existence?
Can't wait for this video and for the whole Narzissenkreuz quest from 4.2 (even Pursuit)
30:39 clothar did say in the caribert quest that lumine was the hope of khaenriah aka the hope for the abyss. so it would make sense they summoned her or made her the princess.
The Lore Archon speaks today. Can't wait
"The keeper is fading away; the creator has not yet come.
But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend."
21:00
I believe that what you say about the sustainer, is reflected in the Traveler's character story. The 'keeper' (being the Sustainer here), is fading. Her light is fading away, hence the gold slowly fading into darkness.
I see some theory around the Tsaritsa goal's, which one implied she wants to resurect the third descender like Isis did with Osiris. I'm struggling and need more Fatui lore ... Anyway, your videos are always amazing !
And that third is her lover, hence why she is the godess of love.
If the traveller is the fourth descender that means their twin is the third descender?
@@Haskellerz we dont know that
@@Haskellerz the Abyssal Twin is not considered a Descender in this world, only the Traveler MC.
@@HaskellerzNahida said that the Traveler is a forth descender but his/her twin is not.
I get the feeling that the previous "We'll side with the dragons' theory is actually how its going to go and we'll end up siding with our twin, at least in part
4.2 was a real eye opener, for sure. I've been replaying older bits to refresh, and the gamble between Nahida and Doctor, came to mind. When it comes to the Focalor's actions, and their potential ramifications. Will that cause a stir in later updates? Time will tell.
Surtalogi is the sword of Surtr who was considered the Twilight of the Gods that brought about Ragnarok. He's Skirks master and in the same league as Rhinedottir and another being called Vedrfolnir. Surtalogi being the name of a sword and Dainsleif also being the name of a sword as well as Gram and with Gungnir being the name of a spear. I think they're all related since they are all Norse.
Gungnir might be Zhongli btw.... He's got too much Gungnir symbolism on his pillars, old and new.
Surtalogi is the fire, not the sword (which is unnamed, but is also flaming during Ragnarok). If we get a Tyrfing, that'll be very interesting.
Also, since Vedrfolnir is the hawk at the top of Yggdrasil, I suspect it's more related to Celestia and the carving of Fontaine's fate into the Irminsul than say, another Khaenri'ahn.
@@BlackGateofMordor I can't wait to meet Vedrfolnir cause their significance to the overall structure of Teyvat is very interesting. Also I wonder if the Eagle will be symbolic or a real person since it does not have a name. I do think that they could be a part of the hexenzirkel...maybe
Are you Gordon Ramsay or what, cuz you cooked some gourmet quality stuff
suddenly, I feel like a kid, waiting for dinner
We know Piero has send scaramouche onto expeditions into the abyss to search for something on several occasions though they never found "it", it can be assumed that before going for the Gnosis they were looking for the traveller and seeing as they failed to find us they went for plan B the gnosis plan.
If you go to the archives then Shouki no kami you’ll notice in his description that even if he hates humanity he’ll also watch over them and comes to love them, cuz the gnosis is a channel that passes the people’s wishes .
Time to wake up... Ashikai posted a new video!
I'll be honest... that little lore bit at the end with skirk regarding the origins of the gnosis really threw me for a loop when it got revealed. Thank you for this video to basically give a TLDR on what exactly it meant and how it'll affect the overall story of the game in the future. I'm actually pretty excited to find out now what's in store for us.
crazy to think Khaenri'ah lost the 50/50
In a way, a Decender has both the power of a god and the will or personal authority to shape worlds... it makes me wonder if our twin had their will/personal authority taken when they were found/summoned to Teyvat, while we the MC were still in stasis sleep.... after all our twin was written into Irminsul (but we don't know WHEN because gods can change it).
I still suspect that the Sustainer is the one who has written our twin into Irminsul history as part of Teyvat... And that we the MC couldn't be written from the shocked look the Sustainer gives us as she is collecting us the MC.... Something went wrong there and the Sustainer wasn't expecting it... we just don't know WHAT yet.
Also me calling her the Sustainer because that's her job title for the Heavenly Princles... Thus why the MC called her "The Unknown God"... WE don't have her name. lol
I also thought of something stupid.... Childe might lose his constellation...... and he might get a new one as NEW playable unit. lol He's on a full Antivillain's path, he started by wanting to be a hero but fate forced his path down a morally grey one with the Fatui and his mind was altered in the abyss's corruption.
If he does get a new constelation i hope its monkey shape constelation, just so we can officially called him GI Goku.
Anyone else wondering what Natlan's water tastes like to Neuvulette
Like warm pee
Spicy water
Blood.
Sulfur probably
there is a reason Neuvillete havent taste them yet
At the moment,
If you play as Childe,
The Vision on his character flickers with light.
Do with that information what you will.
(Edit: Could be interpreted as Childe's ambition is flickering, in a sense)
God what if the Traveller was a Trailblazer that got stuck when Akavili died...
Would be funny if the final chapter would be the Astral Express making a stop to Teyvat to help solve this planet’s problem lol, say hi to March and Himeko
Oooh.. i have to check that next time playing and compare with "normal" vision holders. :D
interesting theory as always! thank you for making videos, Ashikai!
31:38 seeing "Neutron Star" and "Black Hole" suddenly remind me of MUSE band (they have song titled "Neutron Star Collision" and "Supermassive Black Hole" ) . Can't wait when Genshin reaches cosmic universe suddenly there's reference to MUSE's song (just like Bohemian Rhapsody).
Somebody make a music video about the Narwhal with Supermassive Black Hole in the background, please
After watching your other video on the Gnosis' and how they can all represent kings of their own chess game, I find the vocabulary around "the King's seat" and everything so interesting!
17:20 I’d like to add more info about this because the full truth is actually really interesting. Spoilers for the Seven Karma Phala arc in Hi3!!
The meteor that “seeded” the unnamed world in which this arc is set in is actually the ARK. The storyline’s not finished yet, but it’s hinted that the reason why the ARK crashing onto this unnamed planet is intentional (possibly caused by Vita, the antagonist of the HoRB arc, and Sa, the true antagonist of the Seven Karma Phala arc.)
with the revelations about the gnoses im now 200% more intrigued in what exactly the Tsaritsa is planning to do with them once she has them all 🤩🤩 I NEED SNEZHNAYA NOW PLEASE !!!
I thought similar to you. it's so weird since Rene wrote that basically teyvat has been in a samsara and this was going to be the last cycle, kind of like honkai impact. Maybe she is letting then grow and evolve so they can be ready to fight for themselves should anything happen to the gods...
She could have killed them at the start of the game but she sealed them, and nahida thought that she might be silent but should something happen to the gnoses the sustainer wouldn't sit idly by so i think its quite obvious she is letting happen but i think it's because of all those external forces but not just kaenri'ah or the abyss, theres also the "night mother", the foul mentioned by skirk, the sinner, etc.
That may be why celestia created the dome that makes teyvat skies, maybe they already are in a war against all these foes. I think what happend with kaenri'ah is they cursed their people since they did the same the dragon Nibelung in the past which was using abyssal power in their fight against the heavens, something way too catastrophic to the land, and maybe thats anither reason why they put the dome and cursed nation without gods,
The constellation system may be to control all potential enemies, all the allogenes, similar to what we thought of visions being devices to keep tract on them and maybe use them as raw material to make more gnoses or other devices or components that behave like gnoses for other purposes
Nobody remembers what Dottore said to Nahida: "isn't it the archon's duty to deliver what's desired of the seeker?"
Neuvillette said that Gnosis enhanced elemental abilities and gives special power to the wielder. Thats it.
The faith part does not require Gnosis.
Raiden particularly doesnt need that to respond to the wishes of her people. It is stated multiple time.
Ei shakra desiderata is litteraly the physical manifestation of carrying her nations wishes. (I think it is akin to gods)
In the end of Narzissen questline René says that to be a descender does not mean automatically falling or coming from outside the universe but A descender is a someone with a Will that can defy the whole world.
That concept of defying the world's system/set laws did happen in Genshin's parent game Honkai. Another point of the chosen traveller being the 4th descender is related to Genshin's initial working title. Back then, Genshin was considered as the 4th Honkai game, until the fans in CN side decided on Genshin as the name. The Gnosis being made from the 3rd descender remains alludes to how the 3rd impact brought change to the respective world's linked to the imaginary tree, where Honkai and Genshin took place.
Yeah, even in the Furina death sentence scene, when we hear her say she's going to destroy the seat of the hydro archon, we thought the Gnosis is being destroyed. But no, the Gnosis was a separate entity and it would make sense when Nahida made that Gnosis destroying gamble with Dottore. It would also explain why she gave up her own Gnosis so easily for the "Sky is fake" info. Another thing is, Gnosis being a power amplifier would explain how the Akasha system ran on such a large scale. It also explains how the dude in Nahida's 1st archon wasn't omnipresent with his dream system.
I see, so... do you think the Gnosis is just another way of Celestia to bind the Archons? considering the archons already powerful enough even without one (proven by how Zhongli or Ei fight in the war even before receiving Gnosis, sorry I forgot about how Venti fought the war in the lore) but, I doubt Ei ever use the Gnosis for herself after Makoto's passing. before archons was concluded, she fought without it. after the archon war ended, Makoto was the holder of the Gnosis. after Makoto's death, Ei experiment on it for little time, gave it to Miko and rushes to PoE.
Edit : the faith part, I agree with you, I just remember, the lore so far implying that the gods even before the archon war or get the title of an archon already called a god and have people worshipping them, this also means that they are already a master of their own element, i guess?
Yeah that was the only statement made that I disagreed with. I'd have to dig around a bit to find where this lore tidbit is, but one of Venti's earliest acts we learn about is his attempts to help the people of old Mondstadt before the rebellion. The more he helped people, the more they started to believe in him, the more his power grew, and he was able to use that power to help them.
@@caden1313 Not necessarily binding but perhaps one of the orders by which they bind their authorities to this world maybe.
The narwhale share alot of designe elements from hoyos other games, well i say alot i mean the tail in particular, when it comes the quantum element in HSR and HI3. So while it is described as a star beast, i wouldnt be surprised if its from the sea of quanta making it multiversal as well.
the gnosis being the remains of a descender made me think of a theory, where Teyvat is going through this cycle of descenders every now and then coming to Teyvat, this descender then proceeds to make huge, fundamental changes in the world of Teyvat, usually by overthrowing the previous dominat power using the power of the previous descender. It would make sense that Celestia, which is the current dominant power of Teyvat, would be very wary of any "aspiring rebellion" that may pop out in the world, they don't want to be overthrown the same way they probably did with the previous dominant force.
In the Narzissenkreuz world quest we learn that to be a Descender it's not enough to just fall from the heavens but posses a will to rival the world.
That may explain why the Abyss twin isn't one and also means that by definition any being that qualifies has the potential to cause major changes.
Although why then would the twins be barred from leaving? Seems like letting them go would remove them from being a problem.
I have a similar theory. Gnoses being remains of the 3rd descender could mean that the 2nd throne is still the dominant power of Celestia. It defeated the 3rd descender and used their remains as a tool to maintain power. Another possibility is the 3rd descender actually defeated the 2nd throne, but by will or force, the 3rd descender decentralized its existence and its power, delegating the supreme authority to each Archon. This can explain for the suspicious silence of Celestia since Khaenriah's destruction.
8:00 I'd also like to point out that out of all the weekly bosses, traveler only defeated Tartagles without any help. I always found that interesting
And signora
@@ArnoldsKtm and? it says defeat in the original comment.
@@Eb-sq3jd oh true, I completely forgot she existed lol
@@ArnoldsKtm and we didnt kill tartaglia
No Traveler also defeated Scaramouche with their own power. The only help they got was info on Scaramouche's abilities, through the new "Akasha", so no power-ups. Traveler has also defeated the whale. Just remember that Neuvillette told us he wouldn't be able to fight as he was trying to set up a trap to seal the Narwhal. So Traveller actually soloed the Narwhal for the large majority of the fight.
every time i see a huge lore dropped in genshin, i get excited about what ashikai is gonna cook up
awesome theory and inside as always. Now I got an interesting idea on top of that: Following up that visions are parts of the original wish fulfilling "dragon balls", could it be Celestia's goal to weaken the dragons remaining star-authority over Teyvat literally by just handing the visions out in a controlled way? Weather or not the vision holder fulfills his wish, the vision's wish itself should either get used up or die out unfulfilled, right? And since the visions are "smaller wishes", they pose a rather low risk to actually threaten Celestia, too.
I have wondered before if the visions are Celestia’s way of taking advantage of a natural process of Teyvat. Like, even if Celestia never appeared, people with powerful wills and “wishes” would have received “draconic” visions. To go back to Ashikai’s “dragon pearls” theory, Vision Wielders would somehow serve the Dragon Sovereigns and the World as a whole, cumulating with turning into dragons of some sort themselves at the end of their “human” lives. This would bolster the dragon ranks with new dragons (it may even be the natural default “life cycle” for the people of Teyvat, if they are all “draconic” inclined). With Celestia having control of the Visions, she can “stop” this cycle, or at least prevent allogens from becoming too powerul.
YES! Been waiting on your new video! Well done predicting the last Fontaine archon quest lore! I am more intrigued now with your theories
On the topic of Gnosis and the Thrones. I actually had a thought that Gnosis might be some sort of a binding force rather that an almighty tool on its own. First of all, the archons authority over a particular element comes from the stolen part of the dragon’s authority of said element, the so-called Devine Throne. It is the Throne that makes them an Archon, not the Gnosis. And as soon as the Sword fell on Fosalor the Throne returned to Neuvi ASAP. Why? No physical Thrones were destroyed and the Gnosis remained intact so what exactly did the guillotine cut allowing the authority to return to Neuvi? The binding chain perhaps??? And what could thing force be? The force to defy fate perhaps? After all Gnosis basically grand the power of a dragon to those that should not have it => they defy the natural rule of this world, do they not?
Maybe what the Traritsa seeks is not the dragon’s authorities but precisely that power to defy fate and rules of this world that the Gnosis have since they are a fragment of a 3rd Descender and all Descenders posses this fate defying power by default
Wild ass theory time! What if the female who falls in the battle pass story isn't Lumine as hinted by her look, but is in fact the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles, a star child sent to Teyvat to retrieve Nibelung's Dragon Pearl who was captured by Celestia, her divine star power stolen and her body and mind reforged into the Sustainer while the remains of her comsic power (her true self) were forged into Gnosis to keep her power in check. Sorry @Ashikai in advance if this theory seizes you
you are my absolute favorite theory channel i have ever seen. I love your voice, your narrative, you editing, everything.
31:35
My brain auto corrected it to
The path the tsartisa is taking
The path the traveler is taking
The path the abbys twin/oder is taking
(It also matches their colour schemes)
And the pearl in the battle pass cutscene turned dark which means it's autority got taken away too
31:39 i don’t know much abt stars but if our sister went down the abyss path and we are a descender able to reshape or destroy/create a world then perhaps our sister willingly went down the abyss path bc traveler takes the other route. maybe our sister knew abt this and thought the only way to rival celestia is to have both ying and yang, dark and light.
I've known your chamnel since forever but I recently started watching your videos and wow. Just wow. They're amazing. Keep up the good work!
15:46 this reminds me of how there were dragons shown flying around Celestia in the manga
Have been waiting for this ever since that scene with Skirk. Thank you!
The one ginosis abilities reminds me of the essence of a Miracle Invoker from the web novel Lord of the Mysteries. Miracles or wishes are just momentarily, but the effects in fate are long lasting.
I have a very crack theory on what the tsaritsa's wish could be, that is probably going back in time to before the cataclysm or maybe just, reconstructing Kaenriah; it would explain why Pierrot speaks of la Signoras final grave as "the entirety of the old world" and how we could go to Kaenriah during chapter 8
But idk why she would want khaenriah back only? I think abyss is the one who wants to go back the time. Tsaritsas wish might be just recreating the whole world.
We know that the tsaritsa changed drastically only after the cataclysm, maybe she lost someone, maybe she felt compassion towards all those who did, maybe it’s something else. Either way, the key to most archon quest’s resolution has been Khaenri’ah@@ivefication
The theory is crack precisely because we have way too littlr info to make any educated guesses
I feel like the 3rd desender was something the primordial one (the usper), the second who came (still no clue who that is) and the Sovereigns were force to team up against seeing as this would have predated the concept of archons and the Gnosises also contain the Sovereigns authority. Loose allience to deal with the bigger threat. Probably spearheaded by the Soverign Apep refers to as a traitor, then the Primoridal One somehow steals the dragons power too mid final battle. The Terista is trying to revive the 3rd all castlevaina style not knowing better, Venti and Zhongli go along with it because reasons.
We know the second was also a Throne like the first and after they arrived the fighting flared up again although it's not clear who was fighting who.
The Gnosis contain or enhance elemental power but are not the stolen authority, that is the thrones (not to be confused with Thrones a type of celestial being).
The second who came could be the outlander that marries the seele ancestor, although if that's the case they're probably wandering Teyvat without a clue since their memory was wiped (that passage sounds really suspicious post-3.2, the outlander's memories were probably messed with by Irminsul directly). The third could be Nibelung. Since the PO's power has been compromised since that ancient war I don't see it teaming up with all these other threats just to take down one descender.
Discovered this channel recently and mostly play casual. (I need genshin friends lol) But i like just listening to these long essays about games with tons of lore and world building. Good stuff 👍
I figured Nighttime Layla's ramblings in that Darshan event would come up at so point, it's such a weirdly specific observation to make that fits in too well with what we already know.
Your talent to find relevant or related information at the furthest reaches of the web is outstanding, as is the way you connect them.
I always start watching theory videos for games with a "negative" take (for lack of a better term), trying to find holes to disprove them (regardless if I have the same views before starting the video). And you always manage to turn me around or solidify my own views.
It's like, without Ashikai, how would we remember ANYTHING.
THERE'S.
SO.
MUCH.
Thank you, truly.
It feels like throughout our journeys in Teyvat, the traveler isn't a solo hero saving the world, they are the extension of the people's wish around them. In liyue, the adepti channel their power to the traveler; during the Raiden fight, the people's desire and visions were concentrated into the traveler; to beat Scara, not only the Traveler get 168th cycle samsara info, he was also given the knowledge of every vision wielder in Sumeru.
If a gnosis is an extension to amplify one's authority of power, it would make sense the traveler themselves is the gnosis not of an archon nor Celestia, but the entirety of Teyvat.
I hope you pay attention to Childe losing the control of his vision, the Foul Legacy description in the archive and combine it with “Io, Io Pan” scribbles.
What if, Paimon's crown is a crown (and not a tiara) - which means the back of her crown has a missing part (from where we "fished" her out at first) and once we find it and make her crown complete, she will regain her full powers
When i was playing through the AQ and Skirk told me that the Gnosis are the remains of the 3rd Descender i immediately pictured Ashikai having a Jontron "what the fuck" reaction to that information
Im well fed by this, you lined up to my theorys but elevated them with your magical tin hat!
Neuvituluete giving Furina a vision and having mastery over pneumosia is probably why Furina can switch between the two!
Edit: welp
What if these "thrones" that are apart of constellations are their own constellations?
Edit 2: welpp
It’s worth mentioning that wandere almost DID become a god, hence he’d have a better chance of having a constellation reflecting himself in a way, the only thing he didn’t reach the “divinity” of a god
Or the “spiritual” level of a god so, even if he didn’t “ascend” he was a god. In so, his constellation reflects that, reflects that of one’s self. As he was once a type of god.
you didn't mention the Narwhale description when talking about the fake Sky. The Ruler of Teyvat (which is prob Celestia) casted a shield on the world to protect it (which is prob the fake sky), it's quite interesting, you should read it Ashikai
27:39 I just want to point out the Battle Pass Cutscene, If the traveler is tasked to get everyone on board to get his throne, as Ashikai mentions, then the cutscene would be about the Kingdom of the Stars meaning the Other twin WAS a descender but was defiled. They weren't summoned, Khaenriah interfered with the "descension" which marks what a descender is by summoning them, and therefore the player's traveler is sent to rectify it and bring the failed descender back to the Kingdom of Stars (OPENING CUTSCENE). But, the "Arrogation of Man" (which should be Man (Khaenriah) interfering with the descension and maybe corrupting the descender) made the Heavenly Principles stop them so as to undo the interference Khaenriah did to the other twin.
My hunger is sated, my thirst is quenched, for this cooking is reaaally good
i wasn’t surprised in a bit about the people of fontaine being ocianads because i watched your theory videos about it
So if by receiving a vision, one becomes a prisoner of fate - could it explain the vision hunt decree in Inazuma? If Ei or her puppet somehow realized this, deeming the given visions as a threat to eternity? Since they could assume that being bound by fate has some kind of an end?
I think that Ei said to us that the vision hunt was not her idea, but the fatui's, which kinda manipulated the shogun into enforcing it, Ei knew it but didn't stop it... This is what I believe to remember tho, I could be wrong
@@sophie99sam You're right - I completely forgot about that. Still, could it be linked somehow? Like the fatui got some kind of intel or information from Traritsa? But that would be too much of a stretch I think, so probably not...
Notes for around the 18:00 mark-- Ashikai mensions the Traveler being "compatible" with the original systems of Teyvat that would've belonged to the dragons. In Natlan, the Traveler, for NO REASON AT ALL, is able to read the phlogiston inscriptions; dragon tech that apparently can't be controlled by humans AT ALL.
Do you think "thrones" might have some symbolic connection to the angels known as Ophanim? The Christian term for an Ophan is "throne" and their physical descriptions as "wheels within wheels" look very similar to the fates we use for wishing.
Keep up the good work Ashikai! Most of your theories have become true, and that one video you made about this people of Fontaine being Oceanids really made sense. It was a good shock to me when that turned out to be true in the Archon Quest. Thanks for making such great videos for us!!!
the narwal sounds so much like the Aeon Oroboros in star rail (who disappeared after they consumed the swarm). They are also called "The drinker of worlds, the unsatisfied devourer, the black hole with thought".
Great video! Was pleasantly surprised to see a clip of Eris from the Sinbad movie. I've long stopped playing Genshin due to the cycle of burnout whenver I try to get into it, but I still appreciate the beauty and complexity of its lore and design. So thanks for putting out these videos and unpacking all these things for active and inactive players alike
i could only think how "ashikai WILL GO CRAZY when she does this quest"
Your theories are very well thought out, fun, and thought provoking, but one of my favorite things are your concise and thorough recaps of the quests. Love them sm :3
Something to consider: in Judeo-Christian myth, Thrones are one category of angelic beings. The destruction of the Hydro throne coincides with Focalors's death. I'm not sure if that would make the Archons their own thrones, or if the thrones are something outside but linked to them.
10:23 I know this was before remuria but "responding to wishes indiscriminately and not being able to tell the difference between a good wish and a bad wish" is exactly what happened with phobos
Been waiting for this!!
The whole defining what a descender Is really cleared up a lot of confusion on my end. Thank you for your services. And enjoy a new sub.
The whole traveler being a wish granter along with their twin is so cool if you think back to the shooting star design the traveler has. Also the fact that Mona can't read Venti or Traveler's constellations because they are reflections of themselves is because the facts if these beings shake the world so much it would be the same as creating a prophecy, which is most likely how to Fontainian prophecy came about, some strong mage.
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