**NOTES & CORRECTIONS** - By the by, "Lung" does mean "light" but generally it's in relation to weight. It does, however, also refer to the lungs (organ, shocking), which you can relate to the "heavenly father's breath of life" in the biblical way. A stretch? Probably. The lesson? Never trust a dictionary. Always ask a native speaker. So unless it's a pun (light in weight = light in optics, which it could be because it's also lung = long, as in shenlong, pun-wise), the name means more like, "a floating fog" so... like a cloud. I dunno that it matters too much for the theory cuz clouds are still pretty heaven/sky and therefore sun-coded, but the correction is warranted regardless. - Re: Fisher King name origin - this seems to be pretty contested and I didn't go into much detail (since this video isn't really about him or Fischl), but he gets his name from Le Morte d'Arthur where he's called Peschor, Petchere, or Peschour which literally means "fisherman". This is a homynym with the word Pécheur which means "sinner". It's kind of a weird pun-situation, kinda like how the Holy Grail gets called "sangrael" which then gets conflated with sang roial which means royal blood. REGARDLESS of IRL veracity, Hoyo LOVES their wordplay/puns which is why I brought this one up with regards to Fischl. Just wanted to clear that up! - I keep calling "The Ring Cycle" Nibelungenlied which is not it's name, but the name of the original epic it's based on. The fact that Wagner made an opera out of this legend IS relevant, but the source material is close enough for our lore-purposes that I hope you can overlook my unintentional overlap.
Do you think there is possibility of Pierro being Hroptatyr himself? Not only is it possible if you consider that he is possibly talking about himself in third person when he is mentioning the Sage, but also because Royal Mage usually serves as sole advisors to the king, like in Legend of King Arthur, and we know that Pierro is the Royal Mage of Khaneriah.
5:16 I would like to add that while "Nibelung" or "Niflungr" actually stems from "nibel", meaning "fog", the "-ung" ending and its variations, common in germanic languages, do not hold some sort of additional meaning like "light". Nibelung basically means "of fog"
1:35 the "V" in Vinster is pronounced as when you say the "f" in "life". Which is how you pronounce the German word "finster", which means "gloomy, dark". "Vinster" is the old German word the word "finster" is derived of :)
Its highly unlikely as in his artifact sets its stated that he wasn't as talented as the other royal mages. In chinese though its one mage so people are thinking he in fact has beef with "The Wise" @vukkicos5688
Something I believe is another clue to the identity of Kaeya’s dad- in the play during his hangout there’s Big emphasis on conflict between father and son, the former wanting war and the latter wanting to make peace. And Kaeya waxes lyrical for quite a while about this father wanting to see the world burn and oh woe is me, does it need to be so etc. So I’m betting that whoever the driving force behind this upcoming war that other characters are alluding to, is Kaeya’s father. Whether Hroptatyr is that driving force, I guess we’ll find out but personally I’m eyeballing Rerir. The original Rerir in Völsunga saga is one of Odin’s grandsons, and becomes a powerful ruler after avenging his father Sigi. He and his wife then really struggled to have a child until they were sent an apple of fertility by Frigg (Odin’s wife), delivered to them by a giantess that had taken the form of a crow. So the two big themes attached to the name Rerir is a)vengeance and b)a hard-won son conceived with magical help (also some weird time stuff, as his mother was pregnant for six years???)
If kaeya's father is Hroptatyr it would kind of make sense why he was left with the Ragvindrs. Hroptatyr would probably know the other sinners as well which includes rhine, a hexenzirkel member. And we've found out that ragvindr's have something to do with the hexenzirkel members cause there's similar teacups only used by hex members found in dawn winery. Maybe he and rhine have something to do with why kaeya is in mond just chillin with no curse (makes me wonder if rhine or vedrifolnir have something to do with kaeya not having a curse. Vedrifolnir cause bro literally yoinked caribert's curse) Anyway so excited to see how kaeya fits into this puzzle
Dainsleif mentioned that the Sinners and him were the best in their respective fields, but what exactly are their fields? Rhinedottir - Alchemist Vedrfolnir - Priest Rerir - Mechanic Surtalogi - Divine Historian Hroptatyr - Sage/Scholar/Teacher Dainsleif - Soldier So, Dainsleif, Rhinedottir, and Hroptatyr are rather self-explanatory assumptions of mine. In fact, they are so self-explanatory that they shouldn’t even be considered assumptions at this point. Now, as for the Priest, Divine Historian, and Mechanic fields I’ve assumed, I’ll explain a bit more. Surtalogi is potentially in the field of Investigation, more specifically investigating the gods. Under Watatsumi Island, in the sunken nation of Byakakyu, envoys of Khaenri’ah came to pursuit the book, “Before Sun and Moon” with intent on finding out about the origins of Celestia. It’s possible that even after all of these years, their intent on investigating the gods never went away, and Surtalogi simply became an expert in this field of Learning about the Gods. Finally, the most vital reason why I think this, is because of Skirk, when she appeared, she opened up a portal, and compressed the Whale into a ball, this reminds me very much of the Sustainer appearing before the twins from a portal, and then compressing our sibling into a cube. It’s almost as if Surtalogi stole the Sustainers method of using her power, and gave it to Skirk, plus … Skirk was surprised to find that her Master wasn’t that well known, as if Surtalogi is someone she considered to be rather important. Whether this is her bias, or because Surtalogi told her everything about the Gods that she found incredibly important, who knows? This would also explain why she knew about the Gnoses as well as the terminology of Descenders, and their connection with each other. Vedrfolnir is likely in the field of spreading faith, a priest. In Khaenri’ah, with no god to worship, there was worship to their King Irmin, those statuettes are a clear sign of this. A Priest of Royalty (idk if there is another word for this position or field.) Vedrfolnir literally convinced a guy to start a cult with his presence alone. Vedrfolnir was even converting humans into Abyssal Lectors before the Abyss Order was a thing. Vedrfolnir’s prophetic powers probably came into being after Khaenri’ah fell, otherwise he’d inform the people to some degree of what is to come … right? Idk, maybe, maybe not. Rerir is maaayyybbeee a Mechanic? Don’t have too much info on this person, all I know is that Khaenri’ah went through a Dynasty of Alchemy and a Dynasty of Machinery, and they made ALOT of machines, so the field of Mechanisms was definitely vital to this kingdom, and process of elimination suggests Rerir is a Mechanic.
Maybe, Kaeya was a candidate for the loom of fate. but ever since he lived with Diluc and Crepus, he began to think of them as his family rather than his original family who abandoned him. After all, kaeya got his vision on the night of his father's death when he was fighting Diluc, after he confessed that he was from Khaenriah.
Crack Deshret = Vedrfolnir theory - Dain's hair almost looks exactly like Otto's hair in HI3rd. If Vedrfolnir is Dain's older brother, and Deshret is often theorized to be a Otto expy...
@@Nilejavxip yeah if baizhu was the former archon like every on believed at the time it would be cool or even if deshret was the former archon and nahida and rukhadevata were the same person not an reincarnation. but maybe the idea of fallen rulers joining forces is maybe not so original.
Another point for the Sage beeing liked to Odin is the "hung on a spear on the worldtree to learn the runes"-thing, since that is exactly what Odin did
I had a theory a while ago that the dragon kings heart (Pearl/Genesis pearl) was stolen before he fled teyvat and used as the core of Irminusul, with his war of vengance being to try and get his heart back ultimately being burried(Stopped) right next to his heart (Dragon Clutching his pearl(aka Heart) Symbology) so whilst trapped in irminsul his knowledge isnt flowing through the laylines just grasping onto the core of Irminsul.
2:50 girl at this point Deshret may as well be Nibelung or his mini clone avatar thing lol. Anyway, the other thing about Rerir being a name for one of the sinners is that Rerir of Norse mythology is the ancestor of Sigurd, the hero who slays the wyrm Fafnir, and is also the main protagonist of the Ring Cycle opera (sort of: Sigurd is given his German name Siegfried). I don't know if that's what Hoyo had in mind because how would you fit in Sigurd's great grandpa into Khaenriah's lore, but it is there
hey ashikai im not expecting anyone, least of all you, to see this comment, but i want to say it anyway. thank you so much for making these videos. from background noise, to almost actual study sessions, your videos always bring so much joy to my life. im having a rough day today, and your channel has brought so much comfort whilst im crying on the couch. im sorry i dont have the means to become a channel member, but i sincerely hope that you may continue to make these videos :)
As much as i love the theory crafting part of genshin, im not gonna pretend i didnt bawl my eyes out for caribert, and for the life he never got to live, with atossa and the people of vimara village while simultaneously understanding none of the lores and being absolutely disgustingly stupefied seeing aether just popping out after caribert fades away. I still dont understand a lot of things but the pain people of khaenriah felt, i cannot help but linger on that. I miss caribert so much. I wish aether would answer things properly. Seeing all the bigger plot and all the theories i now feel as though all of it was so insignificant just as caribert said. He was such a small tiny part of a grand scheme of things. I just Its starting to dawn on me that the game's starting to reach it's final phase. And i dont want it to end. But teyvat has its own laws. And we are just witnesses who can only watch as the future unfolds and make assumptions. The emotional part of this journey, of being a part of this world, is so unimaginably overwhelming to me its ripping my nerves out. I have never been good at theory making but intuitively feeling and making connections comes naturally. And its so much fun doing so. I love this game and i just wanted to rant sorry if anyone read all this i wasted your time;-;
i really thought that the sinner was the second descender, the one who brought the abyss, but now i think the vinster king is the second decender, since he seemingly controls the abyss.
So the abyss elements could be Quantum (Surtalogi) also related to the primordial sea, so it fits Imaginary (Rhinnedotir) just for the gold and alchemy symbolism And then 3 others based on the other 3 sinners
Have we ever considered that Kaeya's vision is fake and his cryo powers come from somewhere else, similar to abyss mages. This could explain why his vision model is notably different and also changes to a normal monstadt vision on his event skin. The vision model for kaeya's default skin would've been updated and corrected if it was a mistake, it's not like nobody noticed it lol.
can you do theories on the Petrichor and Nostois region?? I feel like it may be related to fontaine's history. Like, why is the island so small? did it sink? did a curse fall upon it? It's also related to music so maybe fontainians ancestors learned their musical skills from there? idk... i just feel like its worth talking about
Venti is a traveling bard who loves to squirrel away wine, apple-secrets, and dreams behind a smokescreen of laughter. Also, the Abyss is nothing, so the holes in Irminsul is kinda a big problem. We might need a Rite of Ascension to fix it. *Mic drop*
So in a later video you mentioned that Nibelung could be what serves as a "gnosis" for abyssal archons, Sinners. Considering he's originally like a prism for light that makes up worldly elements, he might've served a similar function for the abyss power, forbidden knowledge? Perhaps he's the one who made it possible for humans to use abyssal power in the first place, and is at the core of it
The timing problem with the "Sinners" is whether they divide up the power at the same time as the Cataclysm or at some earlier point. It's ambiguous but feels more comfy if it's earlier because then you can get 5 bad ass Abyss related folks to be called Abyssal Archons or "demons" or you could even compare them to Shades I suppose - but relative to the 2nd Descender not some dragon. After all the Celestial Archons and Shades etc are all Primordial One related. This also requires an old Dainsleif. And possibly an outlander Dainsleif theory. None of that is a problem but what you can't mix in is the idea that the Vinster King has anything to do with their power if he is related to the Cataclysm. Old Dain theory matches with the idea of Rhinedottir coming from Crimson Moon dynasty (or earlier) dated through the Rifthounds that she "allegedly" created. Besides which Nibelung can't be the source of all this stuff on account of Neuvillette's statement that Nibelung ought to have allied all of life against the Abyss. Against the old Sinner theory would be the idea that Dain screwed up leading to the downfall of Khaenri'ah per the Sibling. Feels like to deserve that condemnation Dain needs to be operationally involved with why the "Sinners" don't aid Khaenri'ah. And that feels unlikely if the "Sinners" had had their power for a long time.
18:45 yes, probably yes. but it's never necessarily the same Odin because he always plays different roles in a way that makes him basically a different being entirely. Really, dude is extremely interesting character, you should look into him more closely, it's fascinating
Ung in Nibelung can also mean "young/child. "Ung" is the norwegian/swedish/danish word for young. " Unger" from the norse word "ungr" means children. So, it can also be translated to "the fog child/children" or "child/children of the fog".
If azhdaha is representing Nibelung, and zhongli represent the primordial one, and yet zhongli and azhdaha were friends before erosion made azhdaha lose himself Could that mean Nibelung and Phanes were... friends? Also let's take the story of remuria, we got God king remus, who's not native to Fontaine, along with his FOUR harmosts whom he shared his power with, and thin we got the prince of vishaps whom we thought was enemy of remus but turns out they're friends I'm i tge only on ewho sees the parallels? Remus (the primordial one) Came from another nation (another world) He had four harmosts(four shades) The prince of vishaps Scylla (dragon king Nibelung) Could the stories of zhongli and azhdaha, and Remus and Scylla, be all allegorical to the primordial one and Nibelung?
… The Mondstat allogenes terrify me more and more with each update and theory… (I go on a slight rant here, sorry. Small paragraphs about many characters. I literally just spent like, half an hour typing this. It’s long.) Like; I watched a Bennett theory that has fully convinced me that he’s actually the Phoenix that went missing from the Mare Jivari after meeting the Lava Walker and is carrying the pyro gnosis without knowing. Even if that’s not true, there’s enough easy to find evidence to suggest partial/conditional immortality. This kid should be dead. Barbara literally breaks a cardinal sin with her C6, literally reviving people (impossible without a statue of seven or specific food items) and messing with life and death. Idk if it’s just super powerful healing on people close to death/ right before they die and are just knocked out or literally reviving them as soon as they die, but that’s a scary amount of healing to use UNCONSCIOUSLY and AUTOMATICALLY. Klee flattened a whole mountain . And is constantly lucky enough that she can play with the bombs that flattened said mountain without getting hurt once. Klee in general is just scary. Especially the implications that she’s tame compared to Alice. Diluc willingly gave up his vision, which often has serious and often fatal consequences when it happens for too long, for the MONTHS that he went on his crusade, and somehow managed to get banned from shneznaya in the process. Lisa can literally change the weather, which as far as I’m aware, only gods and Neuvillette are capable of??? Plus she was invited to join the Hexinzirkle after studying how visions work (and getting her lifespan artificially reduced because of it (I think that’s an official thing? Could be wrong…)) and the Hexinzerkle is definitely terrifying. Albedo, the artificial human that could unintentionally kill everyone in mondstat, literally studying how to create/ manipulate reality via alchemy. Kaeya, likely the literal heir to the throne if Khaenr’iah is revived, has a similar skill set to abyss lecters like Enjou, will eventually have to consciously choose between his blood and found home as foreseen by Mona. Jean is a workaholic who has managed to keep Mondstat afloat after having 2/3 of the entire knights of Favonius taken on an expedition to Natlan for almost a decade at this point, while dealing with the stormterror thing and dodging the Fatuis outrageous attempts to overthrow her. The true anemo archon fr (she’s still the only tall anemo character.) Amber, the last Outrider, became one to honor her grandfather I believe? After everyone, including many people in the knights tried to convince her that the Outrider devision was useless and should be left to dissolve. Constantly breaks wind glider regulations to try stuff out, constantly getting her license revoked and reinstated as she aces the test every time. If anyone could learn how to fight while gliding, it would be her. She also has bombs, with Barron bunny. Mika, with how often people *cough- Alice and Klee- cough* explode and alter the existing landscape, he’s got his work cut out for him as a cartographer. Plus, he’s a scout deemed good enough to go fight in Natlans never ending war, the fact that he uses three different weapons in his basic attack is wild, and the way he gathers info on people before he lets himself talk to them is creepy from several angles. Fischl is basically kheanr’ian without the eyes, and with her eyepatch and raven and way too much Odin references, and the fact she literally brought a book character to life to protect her (Oz) and so many “lucky guesses” about other characters, makes me genuinely think that the Prinzessin act isn’t just about escapism. If anything, whatever she’s meathod acting to cope with is probably giving her the unconscious hints that let her become the best investigator in Mondstats adventure guild. Her possibly being tied to one of the five sinners is not something I was prepared for. Yikes. Razor shares far too many similarities with Cyno and Sethos for me to ignore the idea that either he/ his parents may have been part of the temple of silence or that Razor’s wolf spirit thingy is similar to the way Cyno and formerly Sethos had a piece of Hermanubis’ soul, just with Andrius. Either way, he’s a feral kid raised by the ghost of a wolf god. And he’s not even the first, but idk much about the other wolf knights. Eula literally lives to spite her lineage, consciously deciding to do good despite almost everyone expecting or pushing her to hurt people like her family tried to teach her. She’s strong enough to literally dance with a claymore. In heels. And considers dragonspine a good place to train. Rosaria, tha assassin nun who’s part of Dilucs underground info network. Raised by the thieves she ended up killing, only worships Barbatos because she’s contractually obliged to, in a world where not worshipping or believing in the seven is near a death sentence because of celestia. Noelle is ridiculously strong. Pretty sure the only reason she’s not a knight yet is because her not being a knight and therefore more flexible in what she can be expected to do is the only thing keeping Mondstat standing and Jean still alive. Thoma was born in Mondstat, and the things he’s been implied to do to protect the Kamisatos is pretty scary, but more hyper-competent, Yakuza-adjacent, most trusted servant of a major government official in the middle of a civil war that targets both of them, scary than whatever those back in Mond are dealing with on a day to day basis. I’m not considering Mona as a mondstater for this I don’t think. Is there anyone I’m missing? Anyway, I’m not even including Venti in this, we all know he’s mysterious and freaky and we love him for it. But TL;DR, all the people in mondstat are terrifying and we should be glad is the most peaceful nation or we’d all be dead by now probably.
28:04 I can easily imagine, that Kaeya's is actually fake, as it looks a little bit different from the other Monstadt visions... but on the other hand it doesn't explain him having a constellation meaning being bounded to the fate of the world
What if the Inazuma War is actually Celestia coming to nuk Inazuma. Because Inazuma broke free from the shackles of the heavenly principles and is still under the rule of an Archon that Celestia appointed that's basically betrayl to them. Yes Focalors is a bigger target but Fontaine is atm under the protection of the Hydro Dragon Sovereign of basically life (Primordial Sea). The war event was organisybt Liyue millileth so what if the Qixing are prompting the other nations to prepare for Qar against Sneznaya or even better forming a 5 Nation Alliance between them. As Natlan being the Nation of War i can just imagine them being like swe won't side with either of you but we'll fight both of you. So the final qar between nations becomes a 3 way conflict. 😅😅😅😅😅😅
At 6:45, I thought Hraesvelgr was an eagle at the end of the world (potentially Hel) and that Vedrfolnir sat between the eyes of an otherwise unnamed eagle?
about the dragon king being fused with the irminsul, would that be something similar to what happened in remuria? That with enough time you can fuse with or forced to get fused with a superior entity?
I used to be so excited for your lore videos don't get me wrong you do an amazing job explaining the lore and i still watch your videos becaz you're so passionate abt it, but recently, i feel like Genshin does such a poor job explaining their own lore, its either lock behind a wall of text or you have to go actively searching for it. We have to wait for years just to get some crumbs... Like how we learned abt the Descenders from Nahida and then there was no information until we learned abt the Gnosis like they are really dragging their feets when it comes to actual information on things its exhausting
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@@abikocheesePaimon talks yes, but she doesn't translate what the Traveler's saying since they're just silent haha However, she did teach them the language of Teyvat. Though she says they had a very good grip already on it in Mondstadt, so they're basically fluent now.
One thing I wanna say about the "7 archons, 5 sinners, 12 in total" is that the elemental reaction namecard which is hinting at there being more elements has space for 12 icons and is missing 5 currently, which would suggest they've been planning this all along.
@@bisexualchibi2863 you are correct. Hoyo tends to do this in all their games. There are almost (very few) no coincidences, which is great if you're in lore at all. Everything is laid out in the beginning if the detectives among us look deep enough. I'm happy to just watch videos and let the real lorehounds (ashikai etc) do all the homework.
looking at the 12 elements of nature, it makes sense. Earth = Geo, Water = Hydro, Wind = Anemo, Fire = Pyro, Thunder = Electro, Ice = Cryo, Flower = Dendro. the 5 remaining elements are Force, Time, Shadow, Light and Moon. how exciting!
At the same time im more convinced that he is just another family branch that separated from that of chlothar and its trying other methods of restoring khaenri'ah completely ignoring the abyss twin actions
Fun Fact: In the Brazilian Portuguese localization the Vinster King is translated as "King of the Eclipse" ("Rei do Eclipse") which puts more weight on the idea that he was the ruler of Khaenri'ah at the time of the Cataclysm.
@@DeltaDonsan they took over for him sure, but it wasnt confirmed if there was a shift in who was king, its moreso they managed khaenri’ah while he was ‘incapacitated’ so unless we get other confirmation, we can assume he was still king at the time of the cataclysm.
2:51 At first thought "It must be Nibelung, he has ties with the abyss", then after Deshret's image: "Oh right, of course it is Deshret, stupid me", and came all the cycle back. What an emotional rollercoaster
I love how no MATTER how long it's been since she's come up, no matter HOW FAR we go from the start of the game... EVERYTHING has a connection to Fichl...
They probably wrote her this way from the start, therefore the complete outline of the story from start to finish could lie somewhere in Mihoyo's posession and they just go along.
The hoyoverse brain rot has me in its clutches because I’m 1000 percent convinced the power the sinners split was a stellaron and thats why teyvat is stuck in a samsara because the memoria has started to leak out and create the upside down world (do not take this seriously this is strictly crack theory hours over here 😂)
Ever since I heard Stellerons get called "Seeds of Disaster" I thought a Stelleron could be the seed of The Irminsul, and that the Abyss could be corrupted Quantum phenomena.
One of her videos tried to connect A.S.I.M.O.N. with P.A.I.M.O.N. I don’t remember too much beyond that and P.A.I.M.O.N being different from Paimon, but it was really interesting.
Wasn't she the one who said something like "Paimon can also be interpreted as short for Primordial Algorithm of Imtransient Matrix of Overseer Network" 🤔?
@@effortlessfurydid the video include the other volumes in detail or did it only mention the description for each volume (which is in the game)? Dont wanna spoiled so im asking
@@storm_1784 I only know a friend of mine had to stop watching a video of theirs when they started discussing those volumes. Honestly, discussion of that story is poisoned until more volumes release.
Five Heroes embarked on a journey to slay the evil dragon. For honor, the master swordsman.(surtalogi) For research, the knowledgeable sorceress.(Rhinedottir) For bounty, the swashbuckling mercenary.(vedrfolnir?) For vengeance, the deadeye marksman.(rerir) For stories, the grand novelist.(hroptatyr) A lotus proceeds from my mouth and flowers bloom on the page. My words are wise and clear and my thoughts are sharp like lightning. I joined this party because I couldn't find a job, and anybody can be a copywriter. But I'm no writer, just a regular fellow in his mid twenties without an honest job. -the tale of dragon slayers
As I was listening to this great lore a thought came to me that I wanted to sharw: "what if instead of a dark sun it's a black hole? The recent photo of the one in our galaxy + quantum symbol looks kinda like an eclipse..." A joy to watch as always!
A good number of people (including ashikai) have proposed the idea that there is a black hole right next to teyvat, add this to the fact that khaenri'ah is closest to the borders separating teyvat from outer space and your connection starts making a lot of sense
Very insightful and well-researched video as usual. I'd suggest however not in general calling the mythological references in Khaenri'ah "Norse", but rather Germanic, because Germanic includes Norse, whereas calling it just Norse excludes Western and Central European Germanic mythology, and many references are actually to Western and Central European Germanic mythology. One example is for example Irminsul. The tree Irminsul is from Saxon Germanic mythology, not from Norse mythology. Also, the Nibelungenlied, which is one of Khaenri'ah's biggest inspirations, is not Norse but from around 1200AD Germany, set in Germany along the Rhine.
14:26 I wanna mention that the twins seem to have symbolism to the sun and moon. One of the biggest pieces of evidence is the swords (more specifically, the sword hilts). Lumine’s is literally shaped as a moon crescent. However, Aether’s is a bit more difficult. I noticed that is straight like a star, or sun rays. There are also details in their designs. Lumine’s hair is more pale and prone to curving in as well as her outfit is mainly white with blue accents, colors associated with the moon. Aether’s hair is more golden and is more prone to pointing straight out. His color palette is dark brown with golden accents, more associated with the sun. It’s also worth pointing out that the moon is often associated with being female and the sun is more associated with being male. Take Greek mythology as an example. I don’t know why they seem to have sun/moon symbolism, but one theory I have is the Eclipse dynasty since a sun and moon make an eclipse. If anyone has anything to add to this, please do.
While Hrptatyr being Kaeya‘s father would certainly be interesting, I don’t think he is his father. It’s true that the lines in the hidden strife event sound a bit like the lines for the statues but we actually got a spoken line from his father. There he sounds far more regretful and even sad to have to leave his son, he even apologizes for it. That doesn’t quite fit with Hrptatyr, who seems a bit more crazy and unhinged and not like a regretful father. And if he was Hrptatyr, why would he leave his son in Mondstadt? Where he could be influenced by the gods. Now you could say because of the supposed mission, but we don’t even know if there was a mission for Kaeya in Mondstadt, not even he knows. Which he also says during the Sumeru event. Leaving Kaeya in Mondstadt feels for more like he were to be kept save from the sinners, from being used by them ( it also aligns with the line Kaeya says during the Sumeru event: that his father perhaps left him there to live a better life). Considering this it feels far more likely that Anfortas is his father, who defended Kaenri‘ah and it‘s people and has themes of being an honorable character that was on the opposite side of the sinners. Nevertheless this was still a very interesting theory and a great video as always ❤
the parallels between kaeya and caribert are so much, also, it could be an incredible reach, but when u unlock his shield (c4) it activates when he is close to die and the fx animation before it generates is pretty interesting, it looks like threads
Thank god im not the only crazy one thinking that one small event about stimulating war and and inviting all the current available nations army to participate on like a military exercise to preparation to upcoming war.
AGREED, the event feels so innocent and insigificant, but when you put it into context with everything else that has been happening, suddenly the event feels foreboding af💀💀💀
I'd like to try a cracked theory of my own: What if Dainsleif is the Traveler's lost sword? He's literally called The Twilight Sword, and Twilight is when the Sun overlaps with the Moon. Aether and Lumine represented the sun and moon, as seen with their weapons. Our twin got to keep their weapon yet for some reason we didn't. Also, wouldn't it be kinda "wholesome" to think that our twin traveled Teyvat with our sword? It probably doesn't make much sense, but Teyvat's time is whacky as is and messes with memories quite often.
That does seem to be what happened, in that each of the travelers constellation (viator/viatrix) depicts them with the sword of the other twin. I have a theory that each of the human shape cons is depicted with a singular important weapon to them that represents someobe important to them. Ei with Makoto's sword, Venti with Nameless bards lyre, Nahida with Rukkhadevata's sanctum, etc etc.
Ashikai: Kaeya’s dark blue colour scheme isn’t really fitting of his peacock imagery. Peacocks: *are very much dark blue from the chest up* Ashikai, what kinda peacocks are you looking at?!?!?
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**NOTES & CORRECTIONS**
- By the by, "Lung" does mean "light" but generally it's in relation to weight. It does, however, also refer to the lungs (organ, shocking), which you can relate to the "heavenly father's breath of life" in the biblical way. A stretch? Probably. The lesson? Never trust a dictionary. Always ask a native speaker.
So unless it's a pun (light in weight = light in optics, which it could be because it's also lung = long, as in shenlong, pun-wise), the name means more like, "a floating fog" so... like a cloud. I dunno that it matters too much for the theory cuz clouds are still pretty heaven/sky and therefore sun-coded, but the correction is warranted regardless.
- Re: Fisher King name origin - this seems to be pretty contested and I didn't go into much detail (since this video isn't really about him or Fischl), but he gets his name from Le Morte d'Arthur where he's called Peschor, Petchere, or Peschour which literally means "fisherman". This is a homynym with the word Pécheur which means "sinner". It's kind of a weird pun-situation, kinda like how the Holy Grail gets called "sangrael" which then gets conflated with sang roial which means royal blood. REGARDLESS of IRL veracity, Hoyo LOVES their wordplay/puns which is why I brought this one up with regards to Fischl.
Just wanted to clear that up!
- I keep calling "The Ring Cycle" Nibelungenlied which is not it's name, but the name of the original epic it's based on. The fact that Wagner made an opera out of this legend IS relevant, but the source material is close enough for our lore-purposes that I hope you can overlook my unintentional overlap.
Do you think there is possibility of Pierro being Hroptatyr himself?
Not only is it possible if you consider that he is possibly talking about himself in third person when he is mentioning the Sage, but also because Royal Mage usually serves as sole advisors to the king, like in Legend of King Arthur, and we know that Pierro is the Royal Mage of Khaneriah.
5:16 I would like to add that while "Nibelung" or "Niflungr" actually stems from "nibel", meaning "fog", the "-ung" ending and its variations, common in germanic languages, do not hold some sort of additional meaning like "light". Nibelung basically means "of fog"
Hey @Ashikai you said there would be link in the description to the fischl theory but its not there
1:35 the "V" in Vinster is pronounced as when you say the "f" in "life". Which is how you pronounce the German word "finster", which means "gloomy, dark". "Vinster" is the old German word the word "finster" is derived of :)
Its highly unlikely as in his artifact sets its stated that he wasn't as talented as the other royal mages. In chinese though its one mage so people are thinking he in fact has beef with "The Wise" @vukkicos5688
2:55 was deshretbaited oh no
same
SAME
Me too, me too
Read this and still got baited
2:42
Im convinced when you start editing a video you start with this clip no matter the context of the theory
Something I believe is another clue to the identity of Kaeya’s dad- in the play during his hangout there’s Big emphasis on conflict between father and son, the former wanting war and the latter wanting to make peace. And Kaeya waxes lyrical for quite a while about this father wanting to see the world burn and oh woe is me, does it need to be so etc. So I’m betting that whoever the driving force behind this upcoming war that other characters are alluding to, is Kaeya’s father.
Whether Hroptatyr is that driving force, I guess we’ll find out but personally I’m eyeballing Rerir. The original Rerir in Völsunga saga is one of Odin’s grandsons, and becomes a powerful ruler after avenging his father Sigi. He and his wife then really struggled to have a child until they were sent an apple of fertility by Frigg (Odin’s wife), delivered to them by a giantess that had taken the form of a crow.
So the two big themes attached to the name Rerir is a)vengeance and b)a hard-won son conceived with magical help (also some weird time stuff, as his mother was pregnant for six years???)
If kaeya's father is Hroptatyr it would kind of make sense why he was left with the Ragvindrs. Hroptatyr would probably know the other sinners as well which includes rhine, a hexenzirkel member. And we've found out that ragvindr's have something to do with the hexenzirkel members cause there's similar teacups only used by hex members found in dawn winery. Maybe he and rhine have something to do with why kaeya is in mond just chillin with no curse
(makes me wonder if rhine or vedrifolnir have something to do with kaeya not having a curse. Vedrifolnir cause bro literally yoinked caribert's curse) Anyway so excited to see how kaeya fits into this puzzle
Dainsleif mentioned that the Sinners and him were the best in their respective fields, but what exactly are their fields?
Rhinedottir - Alchemist
Vedrfolnir - Priest
Rerir - Mechanic
Surtalogi - Divine Historian
Hroptatyr - Sage/Scholar/Teacher
Dainsleif - Soldier
So, Dainsleif, Rhinedottir, and Hroptatyr are rather self-explanatory assumptions of mine. In fact, they are so self-explanatory that they shouldn’t even be considered assumptions at this point.
Now, as for the Priest, Divine Historian, and Mechanic fields I’ve assumed, I’ll explain a bit more.
Surtalogi is potentially in the field of Investigation, more specifically investigating the gods. Under Watatsumi Island, in the sunken nation of Byakakyu, envoys of Khaenri’ah came to pursuit the book, “Before Sun and Moon” with intent on finding out about the origins of Celestia. It’s possible that even after all of these years, their intent on investigating the gods never went away, and Surtalogi simply became an expert in this field of Learning about the Gods. Finally, the most vital reason why I think this, is because of Skirk, when she appeared, she opened up a portal, and compressed the Whale into a ball, this reminds me very much of the Sustainer appearing before the twins from a portal, and then compressing our sibling into a cube. It’s almost as if Surtalogi stole the Sustainers method of using her power, and gave it to Skirk, plus … Skirk was surprised to find that her Master wasn’t that well known, as if Surtalogi is someone she considered to be rather important. Whether this is her bias, or because Surtalogi told her everything about the Gods that she found incredibly important, who knows? This would also explain why she knew about the Gnoses as well as the terminology of Descenders, and their connection with each other.
Vedrfolnir is likely in the field of spreading faith, a priest. In Khaenri’ah, with no god to worship, there was worship to their King Irmin, those statuettes are a clear sign of this. A Priest of Royalty (idk if there is another word for this position or field.) Vedrfolnir literally convinced a guy to start a cult with his presence alone. Vedrfolnir was even converting humans into Abyssal Lectors before the Abyss Order was a thing. Vedrfolnir’s prophetic powers probably came into being after Khaenri’ah fell, otherwise he’d inform the people to some degree of what is to come … right? Idk, maybe, maybe not.
Rerir is maaayyybbeee a Mechanic? Don’t have too much info on this person, all I know is that Khaenri’ah went through a Dynasty of Alchemy and a Dynasty of Machinery, and they made ALOT of machines, so the field of Mechanisms was definitely vital to this kingdom, and process of elimination suggests Rerir is a Mechanic.
Maybe, Kaeya was a candidate for the loom of fate. but ever since he lived with Diluc and Crepus, he began to think of them as his family rather than his original family who abandoned him. After all, kaeya got his vision on the night of his father's death when he was fighting Diluc, after he confessed that he was from Khaenriah.
Crack Deshret = Vedrfolnir theory - Dain's hair almost looks exactly like Otto's hair in HI3rd. If Vedrfolnir is Dain's older brother, and Deshret is often theorized to be a Otto expy...
it would’ve been cool if the five sinners were actually the 5 fallen archons.
But I don't wanna hate on Rukhadevata 😢
@@Nilejavxip yeah if baizhu was the former archon like every on believed at the time it would be cool
or even if deshret was the former archon and nahida and rukhadevata were the same person not an reincarnation.
but maybe the idea of fallen rulers joining forces is maybe not so original.
Another point for the Sage beeing liked to Odin is the "hung on a spear on the worldtree to learn the runes"-thing, since that is exactly what Odin did
I had a theory a while ago that the dragon kings heart (Pearl/Genesis pearl) was stolen before he fled teyvat and used as the core of Irminusul, with his war of vengance being to try and get his heart back ultimately being burried(Stopped) right next to his heart (Dragon Clutching his pearl(aka Heart) Symbology) so whilst trapped in irminsul his knowledge isnt flowing through the laylines just grasping onto the core of Irminsul.
Can't wait for the theory video on capitano when we finally get to meet him in natlan
If Genshin's ending is anything like Ragnarok...we're in for an emotional rollercoaster 💀
2:50 girl at this point Deshret may as well be Nibelung or his mini clone avatar thing lol.
Anyway, the other thing about Rerir being a name for one of the sinners is that Rerir of Norse mythology is the ancestor of Sigurd, the hero who slays the wyrm Fafnir, and is also the main protagonist of the Ring Cycle opera (sort of: Sigurd is given his German name Siegfried). I don't know if that's what Hoyo had in mind because how would you fit in Sigurd's great grandpa into Khaenriah's lore, but it is there
hey ashikai im not expecting anyone, least of all you, to see this comment, but i want to say it anyway. thank you so much for making these videos. from background noise, to almost actual study sessions, your videos always bring so much joy to my life. im having a rough day today, and your channel has brought so much comfort whilst im crying on the couch. im sorry i dont have the means to become a channel member, but i sincerely hope that you may continue to make these videos :)
As much as i love the theory crafting part of genshin, im not gonna pretend i didnt bawl my eyes out for caribert, and for the life he never got to live, with atossa and the people of vimara village while simultaneously understanding none of the lores and being absolutely disgustingly stupefied seeing aether just popping out after caribert fades away.
I still dont understand a lot of things but the pain people of khaenriah felt, i cannot help but linger on that. I miss caribert so much. I wish aether would answer things properly. Seeing all the bigger plot and all the theories i now feel as though all of it was so insignificant just as caribert said. He was such a small tiny part of a grand scheme of things.
I just
Its starting to dawn on me that the game's starting to reach it's final phase. And i dont want it to end. But teyvat has its own laws. And we are just witnesses who can only watch as the future unfolds and make assumptions. The emotional part of this journey, of being a part of this world, is so unimaginably overwhelming to me its ripping my nerves out.
I have never been good at theory making but intuitively feeling and making connections comes naturally. And its so much fun doing so. I love this game and i just wanted to rant sorry if anyone read all this i wasted your time;-;
I love my emotional dumb dumb self
"You thought it'd be Deshret, didn't you."
I think you've traumatized us in some weird way, y'know
i really thought that the sinner was the second descender, the one who brought the abyss, but now i think the vinster king is the second decender, since he seemingly controls the abyss.
Ashikai never fails to spread our cheeks and fill us with lore
Honestly I don't think i can fill anymore but damn the new lore videos are so spicy tho 🥵
WHAT DID HE SAYYY!?!?!?!?
So the abyss elements could be
Quantum (Surtalogi) also related to the primordial sea, so it fits
Imaginary (Rhinnedotir) just for the gold and alchemy symbolism
And then 3 others based on the other 3 sinners
Have we ever considered that Kaeya's vision is fake and his cryo powers come from somewhere else, similar to abyss mages. This could explain why his vision model is notably different and also changes to a normal monstadt vision on his event skin. The vision model for kaeya's default skin would've been updated and corrected if it was a mistake, it's not like nobody noticed it lol.
17:07 Holy FNAF Golden Freddy soul mumbo jumbo. I love that I understand how this is possible thanks to Scott Cawthon.
"moonhunter, kinda makes you think of hunting moons"
me: omg she's right!
can you do theories on the Petrichor and Nostois region?? I feel like it may be related to fontaine's history. Like, why is the island so small? did it sink? did a curse fall upon it? It's also related to music so maybe fontainians ancestors learned their musical skills from there? idk... i just feel like its worth talking about
23:08 This also puts into perspective when Kaeya says that he gets his eyepatch from his grandfather :)
Venti is a traveling bard who loves to squirrel away wine, apple-secrets, and dreams behind a smokescreen of laughter. Also, the Abyss is nothing, so the holes in Irminsul is kinda a big problem. We might need a Rite of Ascension to fix it. *Mic drop*
So in a later video you mentioned that Nibelung could be what serves as a "gnosis" for abyssal archons, Sinners.
Considering he's originally like a prism for light that makes up worldly elements, he might've served a similar function for the abyss power, forbidden knowledge? Perhaps he's the one who made it possible for humans to use abyssal power in the first place, and is at the core of it
Funnily enough, the Prinzess-sin pronunciation is actually more accurate xD
Natlan about to be a blast for lore enjoyers, after all it's literally the last step for us before hitting the serious side of the map
I love your sophisticated voice, ashikai ❤.
The timing problem with the "Sinners" is whether they divide up the power at the same time as the Cataclysm or at some earlier point. It's ambiguous but feels more comfy if it's earlier because then you can get 5 bad ass Abyss related folks to be called Abyssal Archons or "demons" or you could even compare them to Shades I suppose - but relative to the 2nd Descender not some dragon. After all the Celestial Archons and Shades etc are all Primordial One related. This also requires an old Dainsleif. And possibly an outlander Dainsleif theory. None of that is a problem but what you can't mix in is the idea that the Vinster King has anything to do with their power if he is related to the Cataclysm. Old Dain theory matches with the idea of Rhinedottir coming from Crimson Moon dynasty (or earlier) dated through the Rifthounds that she "allegedly" created.
Besides which Nibelung can't be the source of all this stuff on account of Neuvillette's statement that Nibelung ought to have allied all of life against the Abyss.
Against the old Sinner theory would be the idea that Dain screwed up leading to the downfall of Khaenri'ah per the Sibling. Feels like to deserve that condemnation Dain needs to be operationally involved with why the "Sinners" don't aid Khaenri'ah. And that feels unlikely if the "Sinners" had had their power for a long time.
I feel a cold sweat drip down as Ashikai starts to mention the Ring opera.
Is genshin just a sequel to the ring? Was MandaloreGaming a prophet.
Albedo my BOIII (love the lore relevant characters on screen!)
18:45 yes, probably yes. but it's never necessarily the same Odin because he always plays different roles in a way that makes him basically a different being entirely. Really, dude is extremely interesting character, you should look into him more closely, it's fascinating
I love “The Sinner Quintet”. It’s my favorite band
WHEN I TELL YOU I CLICKED SO FAST. let's go can't wait for this
Guys hear me out:
What if the Abyss is the top and Teyvat is the Bottom?!
Ung in Nibelung can also mean "young/child. "Ung" is the norwegian/swedish/danish word for young. " Unger" from the norse word "ungr" means children. So, it can also be translated to "the fog child/children" or "child/children of the fog".
If azhdaha is representing Nibelung, and zhongli represent the primordial one, and yet zhongli and azhdaha were friends before erosion made azhdaha lose himself
Could that mean Nibelung and Phanes were... friends?
Also let's take the story of remuria, we got God king remus, who's not native to Fontaine, along with his FOUR harmosts whom he shared his power with, and thin we got the prince of vishaps whom we thought was enemy of remus but turns out they're friends
I'm i tge only on ewho sees the parallels?
Remus (the primordial one)
Came from another nation (another world)
He had four harmosts(four shades)
The prince of vishaps Scylla (dragon king Nibelung)
Could the stories of zhongli and azhdaha, and Remus and Scylla, be all allegorical to the primordial one and Nibelung?
I have a feeling if we ever fight Surtologi he's going to be saying things like "behold the abyss has come" and "the gift of grace" a lot 😂
that kaeya has vision is not a problem since is a cryo vision, I am pretty sure taritsa will have full control of the element when ragnarok starts
wake up ya'll a new yap session just dropped 🗣
… The Mondstat allogenes terrify me more and more with each update and theory…
(I go on a slight rant here, sorry. Small paragraphs about many characters. I literally just spent like, half an hour typing this. It’s long.)
Like;
I watched a Bennett theory that has fully convinced me that he’s actually the Phoenix that went missing from the Mare Jivari after meeting the Lava Walker and is carrying the pyro gnosis without knowing. Even if that’s not true, there’s enough easy to find evidence to suggest partial/conditional immortality. This kid should be dead.
Barbara literally breaks a cardinal sin with her C6, literally reviving people (impossible without a statue of seven or specific food items) and messing with life and death. Idk if it’s just super powerful healing on people close to death/ right before they die and are just knocked out or literally reviving them as soon as they die, but that’s a scary amount of healing to use UNCONSCIOUSLY and AUTOMATICALLY.
Klee flattened a whole mountain . And is constantly lucky enough that she can play with the bombs that flattened said mountain without getting hurt once. Klee in general is just scary. Especially the implications that she’s tame compared to Alice.
Diluc willingly gave up his vision, which often has serious and often fatal consequences when it happens for too long, for the MONTHS that he went on his crusade, and somehow managed to get banned from shneznaya in the process.
Lisa can literally change the weather, which as far as I’m aware, only gods and Neuvillette are capable of??? Plus she was invited to join the Hexinzirkle after studying how visions work (and getting her lifespan artificially reduced because of it (I think that’s an official thing? Could be wrong…)) and the Hexinzerkle is definitely terrifying.
Albedo, the artificial human that could unintentionally kill everyone in mondstat, literally studying how to create/ manipulate reality via alchemy.
Kaeya, likely the literal heir to the throne if Khaenr’iah is revived, has a similar skill set to abyss lecters like Enjou, will eventually have to consciously choose between his blood and found home as foreseen by Mona.
Jean is a workaholic who has managed to keep Mondstat afloat after having 2/3 of the entire knights of Favonius taken on an expedition to Natlan for almost a decade at this point, while dealing with the stormterror thing and dodging the Fatuis outrageous attempts to overthrow her. The true anemo archon fr (she’s still the only tall anemo character.)
Amber, the last Outrider, became one to honor her grandfather I believe? After everyone, including many people in the knights tried to convince her that the Outrider devision was useless and should be left to dissolve. Constantly breaks wind glider regulations to try stuff out, constantly getting her license revoked and reinstated as she aces the test every time. If anyone could learn how to fight while gliding, it would be her. She also has bombs, with Barron bunny.
Mika, with how often people *cough- Alice and Klee- cough* explode and alter the existing landscape, he’s got his work cut out for him as a cartographer. Plus, he’s a scout deemed good enough to go fight in Natlans never ending war, the fact that he uses three different weapons in his basic attack is wild, and the way he gathers info on people before he lets himself talk to them is creepy from several angles.
Fischl is basically kheanr’ian without the eyes, and with her eyepatch and raven and way too much Odin references, and the fact she literally brought a book character to life to protect her (Oz) and so many “lucky guesses” about other characters, makes me genuinely think that the Prinzessin act isn’t just about escapism. If anything, whatever she’s meathod acting to cope with is probably giving her the unconscious hints that let her become the best investigator in Mondstats adventure guild. Her possibly being tied to one of the five sinners is not something I was prepared for. Yikes.
Razor shares far too many similarities with Cyno and Sethos for me to ignore the idea that either he/ his parents may have been part of the temple of silence or that Razor’s wolf spirit thingy is similar to the way Cyno and formerly Sethos had a piece of Hermanubis’ soul, just with Andrius. Either way, he’s a feral kid raised by the ghost of a wolf god. And he’s not even the first, but idk much about the other wolf knights.
Eula literally lives to spite her lineage, consciously deciding to do good despite almost everyone expecting or pushing her to hurt people like her family tried to teach her. She’s strong enough to literally dance with a claymore. In heels. And considers dragonspine a good place to train.
Rosaria, tha assassin nun who’s part of Dilucs underground info network. Raised by the thieves she ended up killing, only worships Barbatos because she’s contractually obliged to, in a world where not worshipping or believing in the seven is near a death sentence because of celestia.
Noelle is ridiculously strong. Pretty sure the only reason she’s not a knight yet is because her not being a knight and therefore more flexible in what she can be expected to do is the only thing keeping Mondstat standing and Jean still alive.
Thoma was born in Mondstat, and the things he’s been implied to do to protect the Kamisatos is pretty scary, but more hyper-competent, Yakuza-adjacent, most trusted servant of a major government official in the middle of a civil war that targets both of them, scary than whatever those back in Mond are dealing with on a day to day basis.
I’m not considering Mona as a mondstater for this I don’t think. Is there anyone I’m missing?
Anyway, I’m not even including Venti in this, we all know he’s mysterious and freaky and we love him for it.
But TL;DR, all the people in mondstat are terrifying and we should be glad is the most peaceful nation or we’d all be dead by now probably.
Look like Yanfei got multiple other character to have existential crisis with her
5 more archons you say...... reminds me of how theres 5 more empty spots on that namecard with all the elements...
hey ashikai, I'm wondering what Jean meant by heroic king of Khaenri'ah? This was in her voice line in Jean's Hobbies
28:04 I can easily imagine, that Kaeya's is actually fake, as it looks a little bit different from the other Monstadt visions... but on the other hand it doesn't explain him having a constellation meaning being bounded to the fate of the world
I found it hilarious that we have 5 fish (sinners) in the abyss...sea..?
What if the Inazuma War is actually Celestia coming to nuk Inazuma. Because Inazuma broke free from the shackles of the heavenly principles and is still under the rule of an Archon that Celestia appointed that's basically betrayl to them.
Yes Focalors is a bigger target but Fontaine is atm under the protection of the Hydro Dragon Sovereign of basically life (Primordial Sea).
The war event was organisybt Liyue millileth so what if the Qixing are prompting the other nations to prepare for Qar against Sneznaya or even better forming a 5 Nation Alliance between them.
As Natlan being the Nation of War i can just imagine them being like swe won't side with either of you but we'll fight both of you. So the final qar between nations becomes a 3 way conflict. 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Unexpected fischl lore
OH YOU GOT ME!
I so thought you were gonna say Deshret and I was about to scream Nibelung in the comments.
Austrian here I speak german.
Nibelungen translates to "Sons of the Fog".
At 6:45, I thought Hraesvelgr was an eagle at the end of the world (potentially Hel) and that Vedrfolnir sat between the eyes of an otherwise unnamed eagle?
About Fischl, her theme has a heavy fatui motif, which is very sus considering her 'khaenriah-like' name
So, you're saying MC is a squirrel... or, well, jointly a squirrel with their twin? I'm surprisingly okay with this...
simara could be paimon? theres been a theory for quite a while that paimon might be the travelers sword xD
9:23 caught me off guard
Ashikai, I have one braincell left and its full of your lore videos. Thank you for your work! 😂
Same she has been filling me with these spicy lore videos I can't take it anymore 🥵
I hope we get Imbibitor lunae kaeya 5 star😂
5.8 be like "Nicole is the teacup"
So that's why rhinestones ❤ are called rhinestones❤
Quick question you meant dutch right? Not german….
"War is coming" so am I
about the dragon king being fused with the irminsul, would that be something similar to what happened in remuria? That with enough time you can fuse with or forced to get fused with a superior entity?
I used to be so excited for your lore videos don't get me wrong you do an amazing job explaining the lore and i still watch your videos becaz you're so passionate abt it, but recently, i feel like Genshin does such a poor job explaining their own lore, its either lock behind a wall of text or you have to go actively searching for it. We have to wait for years just to get some crumbs... Like how we learned abt the Descenders from Nahida and then there was no information until we learned abt the Gnosis like they are really dragging their feets when it comes to actual information on things its exhausting
The war...
Damn it...I GOT...GOT!!!
Hii Yanfei👋
Im sorry I didn't mean to throw a dodgeball in your face :D
Ell I feel a wee bit of h8 for my viking brethren 😅
if someone watches "mynamefornow" then can probably agree on that when he says the 5 sinner names it hits different
"War is coming. Natlan is soon." what a cool line
Umm Ackshually it's "War is coming*🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Get ready for the greatest Pokemon battle Teyvat has ever seen.
You mean hunting Pokémon?
@@Nilejavxip thanks 👍
@@tihim__
I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Teach Pokémon to understand
The power that′s inside
Pokémon (gotta catch 'em all), it′s you and me
I know it's my destiny (Pokémon)
Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend
Pokémon (gotta catch ′em all), a heart so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me and I′ll teach you
Pokémon (gotta catch 'em all)
Gotta catch ′em all, yeah
Every challenge along the way
With courage I will face
I will battle every day
To claim my rightful place
Come with me, the time is right
There's no better team
Arm in arm, we′ll win the fight
It's always been our dream
Pokémon (gotta catch ′em all), it's you and me
I know it's my destiny (Pokémon)
Oh, you′re my best friend
In a world we must defend
Pokémon (gotta catch ′em all), a heart so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you
Pokémon (gotta catch ′em all)
Gotta catch 'em all
Gotta catch ′em all
Gotta catch 'em all
Gotta catch ′em all
Yeah
Pokémon (gotta catch 'em all), it's you and me
I know it′s my destiny (Pokémon)
Oh, you′re my best friend
In a world we must defend
Pokémon (gotta catch 'em all), a heart so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me and I′ll teach you
Pokémon (gotta catch 'em all)
Gotta catch ′em all,
Pokémon!!!
Fischl is also Odin coded. One eye, raven companion that gathers info for her.
Give Fischl a wide hatttt
Actually the raven would probably be doing the translating for others since Oz is always translating whatever Amy Fischl is saying
@@VeronaRoma7546 Like how Paimon translates and talks for the traveler!
Book fischl is irmin's daughter, and is also a sword, so that tracks.
@@abikocheesePaimon talks yes, but she doesn't translate what the Traveler's saying since they're just silent haha
However, she did teach them the language of Teyvat. Though she says they had a very good grip already on it in Mondstadt, so they're basically fluent now.
One thing I wanna say about the "7 archons, 5 sinners, 12 in total" is that the elemental reaction namecard which is hinting at there being more elements has space for 12 icons and is missing 5 currently, which would suggest they've been planning this all along.
wasnt it also said that there are more than seven elements, but people are "too lazy to count the rest"
I can’t remember where but when I first started playing genshin back in 2022 I read that they’ve had the story planned out since the very beginning
Now I'm just imagining that as soon as we get to the last region, they drop 5 new elements on us at once.
@@bisexualchibi2863 you are correct. Hoyo tends to do this in all their games. There are almost (very few) no coincidences, which is great if you're in lore at all. Everything is laid out in the beginning if the detectives among us look deep enough. I'm happy to just watch videos and let the real lorehounds (ashikai etc) do all the homework.
looking at the 12 elements of nature, it makes sense. Earth = Geo, Water = Hydro, Wind = Anemo, Fire = Pyro, Thunder = Electro, Ice = Cryo, Flower = Dendro. the 5 remaining elements are Force, Time, Shadow, Light and Moon. how exciting!
“You thought it would be deshret didnt you”
She’s such a troll 💀😭
Kaeya’s father being one of the sinners would be so god damn cool
At the same time im more convinced that he is just another family branch that separated from that of chlothar and its trying other methods of restoring khaenri'ah completely ignoring the abyss twin actions
@@kostakonomi
Agreed he more likely would be working with the fatui or the witches or another khaenri'ah faction not yet introduced
im fully convinced that kaeyas father is pierro
@@NVNNOV That's my theory, too. I just hope that Pierro is a reasonable fatui and isn't just pure evil like Dottore.
@@NVNNOV that theory got debunked long ago LOL
Fun Fact: In the Brazilian Portuguese localization the Vinster King is translated as "King of the Eclipse" ("Rei do Eclipse") which puts more weight on the idea that he was the ruler of Khaenri'ah at the time of the Cataclysm.
I thought that was King Irmin?
@@pinkluverX0X0Yeh it was
@@pinkluverX0X0kind of. The alberich ( Kaeya’s family) replaced Irmin during or slightly before the cataclysm.
@@storm_1784depends on the exact moment.
@@DeltaDonsan they took over for him sure, but it wasnt confirmed if there was a shift in who was king, its moreso they managed khaenri’ah while he was ‘incapacitated’ so unless we get other confirmation, we can assume he was still king at the time of the cataclysm.
2:51 At first thought "It must be Nibelung, he has ties with the abyss", then after Deshret's image: "Oh right, of course it is Deshret, stupid me", and came all the cycle back. What an emotional rollercoaster
I love how no MATTER how long it's been since she's come up, no matter HOW FAR we go from the start of the game...
EVERYTHING has a connection to Fichl...
They probably wrote her this way from the start, therefore the complete outline of the story from start to finish could lie somewhere in Mihoyo's posession and they just go along.
The hoyoverse brain rot has me in its clutches because I’m 1000 percent convinced the power the sinners split was a stellaron and thats why teyvat is stuck in a samsara because the memoria has started to leak out and create the upside down world (do not take this seriously this is strictly crack theory hours over here 😂)
There is no evidence against this theory
How does one split a stellaron without destroying the world
I have no idea what you are talking about (I only play Genshin)
But why does this make the most sense to meeeee omg you might be on to something lol
Ever since I heard Stellerons get called "Seeds of Disaster" I thought a Stelleron could be the seed of The Irminsul, and that the Abyss could be corrupted Quantum phenomena.
Man this game loves cubes
Aria math starts playing (minecraft ost)
*Void archive noises*
@@meh4294 NO AYATO!!! NO KOKUOU BANSHOU!!!
7:16 gave me flashbacks to that theory that Paimon is a messaging system. Can't remember who proposed it but might even be an Ashikai theory.
One of her videos tried to connect A.S.I.M.O.N. with P.A.I.M.O.N.
I don’t remember too much beyond that and P.A.I.M.O.N being different from Paimon, but it was really interesting.
Pretty sure it was Wei? He compared Paimon to the mechanical constructs in Sumeru Desert.
@@lathamtk Yes, you are right
Wasn't she the one who said something like "Paimon can also be interpreted as short for Primordial Algorithm of Imtransient Matrix of Overseer Network" 🤔?
@@lathamtk probably him then
@MyNameForNow had a theory that the Book about the 6 Pygmies is an allegory for Dainslief and the 5 other Sinners. It made a lot of sense.
Ashikai doesn't discuss datamined content.
@@effortlessfury
What is datamined?
@@kctoygacha5069 only the first volume of Pale Princess is available in game. The rest of the volumes were accidentally included in the game files.
@@effortlessfurydid the video include the other volumes in detail or did it only mention the description for each volume (which is in the game)? Dont wanna spoiled so im asking
@@storm_1784 I only know a friend of mine had to stop watching a video of theirs when they started discussing those volumes. Honestly, discussion of that story is poisoned until more volumes release.
Five Heroes embarked on a journey to slay the evil dragon.
For honor, the master swordsman.(surtalogi)
For research, the knowledgeable sorceress.(Rhinedottir)
For bounty, the swashbuckling mercenary.(vedrfolnir?)
For vengeance, the deadeye marksman.(rerir)
For stories, the grand novelist.(hroptatyr)
A lotus proceeds from my mouth and flowers bloom on the page. My words are wise and clear and my thoughts are sharp like lightning.
I joined this party because I couldn't find a job, and anybody can be a copywriter.
But I'm no writer, just a regular fellow in his mid twenties without an honest job.
-the tale of dragon slayers
Oh
i really read the thumbnail as "Khaennri'ah's Stinkers"
they do be stinkin'
2:50 I did actually thought it was gonna be Deshret. That was a good one
SAME
i really thought back in 2.8 that fischl's domain is inspired by khanriah and the ravens are the greater sinners.
As I was listening to this great lore a thought came to me that I wanted to sharw: "what if instead of a dark sun it's a black hole? The recent photo of the one in our galaxy + quantum symbol looks kinda like an eclipse..."
A joy to watch as always!
A good number of people (including ashikai) have proposed the idea that there is a black hole right next to teyvat, add this to the fact that khaenri'ah is closest to the borders separating teyvat from outer space and your connection starts making a lot of sense
and what if that "black hole" is actually a Zenless Zone (zero) 😼😼
@@Rokaria it's IX of HSR! XD
Very insightful and well-researched video as usual. I'd suggest however not in general calling the mythological references in Khaenri'ah "Norse", but rather Germanic, because Germanic includes Norse, whereas calling it just Norse excludes Western and Central European Germanic mythology, and many references are actually to Western and Central European Germanic mythology.
One example is for example Irminsul. The tree Irminsul is from Saxon Germanic mythology, not from Norse mythology. Also, the Nibelungenlied, which is one of Khaenri'ah's biggest inspirations, is not Norse but from around 1200AD Germany, set in Germany along the Rhine.
14:26 I wanna mention that the twins seem to have symbolism to the sun and moon. One of the biggest pieces of evidence is the swords (more specifically, the sword hilts). Lumine’s is literally shaped as a moon crescent. However, Aether’s is a bit more difficult. I noticed that is straight like a star, or sun rays. There are also details in their designs. Lumine’s hair is more pale and prone to curving in as well as her outfit is mainly white with blue accents, colors associated with the moon. Aether’s hair is more golden and is more prone to pointing straight out. His color palette is dark brown with golden accents, more associated with the sun.
It’s also worth pointing out that the moon is often associated with being female and the sun is more associated with being male. Take Greek mythology as an example.
I don’t know why they seem to have sun/moon symbolism, but one theory I have is the Eclipse dynasty since a sun and moon make an eclipse. If anyone has anything to add to this, please do.
While Hrptatyr being Kaeya‘s father would certainly be interesting, I don’t think he is his father. It’s true that the lines in the hidden strife event sound a bit like the lines for the statues but we actually got a spoken line from his father. There he sounds far more regretful and even sad to have to leave his son, he even apologizes for it. That doesn’t quite fit with Hrptatyr, who seems a bit more crazy and unhinged and not like a regretful father. And if he was Hrptatyr, why would he leave his son in Mondstadt? Where he could be influenced by the gods. Now you could say because of the supposed mission, but we don’t even know if there was a mission for Kaeya in Mondstadt, not even he knows. Which he also says during the Sumeru event.
Leaving Kaeya in Mondstadt feels for more like he were to be kept save from the sinners, from being used by them ( it also aligns with the line Kaeya says during the Sumeru event: that his father perhaps left him there to live a better life).
Considering this it feels far more likely that Anfortas is his father, who defended Kaenri‘ah and it‘s people and has themes of being an honorable character that was on the opposite side of the sinners.
Nevertheless this was still a very interesting theory and a great video as always ❤
funny Theory: We go into the Abyss and Hoyo will release 5 (across 5 years) Abyss nations. More Updates, More needed storage space, etc.
Imagine in the end we fight and fuse with our sibling becoming one entity
XD (I'm just Brainstorming thoughts)
the parallels between kaeya and caribert are so much, also, it could be an incredible reach, but when u unlock his shield (c4) it activates when he is close to die and the fx animation before it generates is pretty interesting, it looks like threads
Thank god im not the only crazy one thinking that one small event about stimulating war and and inviting all the current available nations army to participate on like a military exercise to preparation to upcoming war.
AGREED, the event feels so innocent and insigificant, but when you put it into context with everything else that has been happening, suddenly the event feels foreboding af💀💀💀
4:35 the fading image got me LMAO
That Rerir part made me let out a very cool "hmph" sound
I'd like to try a cracked theory of my own:
What if Dainsleif is the Traveler's lost sword? He's literally called The Twilight Sword, and Twilight is when the Sun overlaps with the Moon.
Aether and Lumine represented the sun and moon, as seen with their weapons. Our twin got to keep their weapon yet for some reason we didn't.
Also, wouldn't it be kinda "wholesome" to think that our twin traveled Teyvat with our sword?
It probably doesn't make much sense, but Teyvat's time is whacky as is and messes with memories quite often.
That does seem to be what happened, in that each of the travelers constellation (viator/viatrix) depicts them with the sword of the other twin.
I have a theory that each of the human shape cons is depicted with a singular important weapon to them that represents someobe important to them. Ei with Makoto's sword, Venti with Nameless bards lyre, Nahida with Rukkhadevata's sanctum, etc etc.
Ashikai trying not to drag deshret each 3min challange failed😂
I got like less than 50% of this, but thank you so much for these videos, your work is extremely entertaining and I really appreciate it!!! ♥️
Ashikai: Kaeya’s dark blue colour scheme isn’t really fitting of his peacock imagery.
Peacocks: *are very much dark blue from the chest up*
Ashikai, what kinda peacocks are you looking at?!?!?