I was shocked how well Sam and Joe vibed. This is the best interview I have seen of Sam Altman and I think that is mainly due to Joe making him feel comfortable. Definitely needs a round 2
This is because this episode is almost a year old, from before Sam consolidated power at OpenAI, hired the NSA and half the DNC to the board and basically went straight into mask-off creepy billionaire mode. Kinda did a speedrun of all the steps of public goodwill that tech founders go through, from trustworthy hoodie dude to zuck memes
Yeah he’s more on guard with “intellectuals” I think but Joe really seemed to get a different side of him that was interesting and useful to my “who is Sam Altman” model
Sam is the devil in disguise. The representation of the end of humanity. We will feel no more, live no more, struggle no more, love no more... Joe should have been more aggressive with him. Elon tried to stopped AI, he should have pressure on that more
So nice to have you back on UA-cam, Joe! Your recent interviews including this one are top notch and from a much needed elevated perspective. Thanks so much for giving us your time to do these!
Havent listened to Rogan in a while, despite all the flack he gets (some of which he deserves) i forgot how insightful and forward thinking he can be at times. Im still really glad he did what he did. He did a great service to mankind with this podcast in forwardinf the whole medium.
You are making an assumption that Zuckerberg or Altman or Nadella or Musk actaully care how people feel about them, cos if I had their power and money I truly would give no sh*ts how people at the bottom think of me.... and if you are honest neither would you.
@@antoine.- which is because he is finally doing something right which just so happens to be the opposite of what Sam Altman is doing (open source AI ) also he seems to have gotten some software updates recently and is getting closer to passing the Turing test.
It's marvellous how Sam directs and manages the whole conversation and basically gets away with not really answering any serious question. At one point he just makes Joe talk about addiction and all... or testesteron... brilliant! That Sam is one of the most powerful persons in the world who has a power that can wreck the world or make this a better place as Americans say when they need to sound cliche! Wow... not the content or dialogue but the Sam's ability to dodge Joe is tip top!
I saw that too. The genius of Sam is that he substituted one interesting conversation he wanted to have for another interesting conversation he did not want to have.
When JR said we don't know or have proof of this is a simulation or a way to know ... Altman respond I'm more sure about it and that's why live my life accordingly ...He definitely knows more that he would like to admit🙃 🤷🏻♀️
That guy, is absolutely completely and utterly FULL of shit. Try ChatGBT for a week. See how you get on. (and GBT4 the paid Sub) Sam Altman is a conman.
39:50 - This observation by Altman is key. It reminds me of a quote from Herman Melville, "It's better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation."
@@twisterrjlAre you dense? Here’s an example: when you fail with something you designed and created your learning growth and integrity still stands, failing with a product with no originality you have no ingenuity and no money so you’re left with true failure. In Ai we can continue to push to be better if we don’t let failures be the end of progressive innovation
For me there's more quotes to make me think that he really doesn't know or considere all the implications of creating AI 1) " If there's any negativity aspect of something I rather prefer not to know". If he has the same posture with AI ? He would prefer not letting us know? 2) "I'm more sure that we live in a simulation.. So I prefer to live my life according to that. 3) " I can predict , I don't know. That's why I have a very critical way more critical group team that is helping me to think and consider all of this aspects by the time this technology advanced" 4) My hope is, tis could be a moment where we can tie back the conversation and we kind overcome our base impulses and say let's do this together"
Rouge malignant actors with open access to potentially earth shattering capabilities is the "anxiety"... That or the technology itself obtaining 'desires" that are not aligned with our survival or to which our survival is an obstacle to it's aims - at which point we are worth no more consideration than an ant is to us if it happens to find itself underfoot.
@@obiohagwu788 no. Correlation but not causal. Ultra athletes have cortisol overload but have no anxiety. Stress can trigger it but if you think this is because of that you’re wrong
Terrence Howard is recognized by FAR many more.people than Sam Altman, Terrence also campaigned pretty aggressively on his math thing. I don't even know who Sam is😅
It's interesting watching these 2 interact. Sam Altman seems to be the human embodiment of ChatGPT. He's polite, responsive, and knows when AND HOW to ask more from the more primal, aggressive and much more assertive Joe Rogan, lol. It's fascinating to watch. Joe would def be one of the leaders of the resistance when the machines take over... Sam would try to calmly get folks to submit, but really... for their own good, lol.
Not for their own good. Fuck Sam Altman and OpenAI. Any sane researcher/engineer can see through his bullshit and the fuckery that is ClosedAI. Glad Ilya and Jan left.. the AI space has some weird folks. It’s all one big club.
Every progress and technology comes at a price. Everything in life has a price we have to pay. But people usually focus on the benefits of whatever they do.
Been asking myself the same thing also they're within 10 days of each other all these new videos but from the content I've realized that they are old tapings ???
Seeing these a lot lately, trying to decipher what is new and not is a bit annoying. These shouldn't be shown to me again. When identical videos are shown to me six months later, I thumbs down them instantly. Ok, I don't do that, but I want to.
Yes, when we are younger, everything was easy, once we grew up you have so much in our back, we are constantly searching to do something, to maintain ourselves out of the main stage we have the need to have some dopamine , coffee is awesome.
As a 33 year old AI tech start up founder I'll answer the question posed at the 44:36 min mark. Firstly, the reason I didn't found my business at 23 isnt because of my education or not having the knowledge or ambition but because the economy was so bad that I wasn't able to think about anything but earning money to survive I also think my parents generation was different then the previous ones when it came to help there kids get started into adult life seeming to not want there kids to do better then them but maybe that's just from what I experience in me and my peer group
the need to control one's emotions during deception are fundamental to the complex task of lying. It forces the liar from controling his voice, to overcontrolling his tone. research on the strategies used by the good liar also treats the self-deception hypothesis.
I find it fascinating how the private sector managed to develop AI technology before governments did. It raises questions about innovation and resource allocation in different sectors. Regarding drugs, it's interesting to consider that many substances do originate from natural sources, like plants. Water, despite being essential for life, is indeed a chemical compound, highlighting the complexity of what we consume. Reflecting on violence and its perpetuation, it's thought-provoking how those who intervene in violence can sometimes inadvertently perpetuate it themselves. It's a complex issue with societal implications. On the topic of childbirth, the societal pressures and expectations placed on women can be overwhelming. It's a personal choice that deserves respect and understanding. Lastly, the challenges young people face today, especially in finding employment after turning 18, are significant. It's something our society needs to address more effectively. These are just my thoughts on these complex topics. What do you all think? Thanks Sam for GPT written with the GPT mine was to offence for the people!
here what i try to say -_- how is it possible that the private sector made the AI before the govermeant? also drugs are just a type of food honest... isn't all drugs started with some type of food that burned into powder also... Water must be the strongest drugs H2O is a chemical compound. Also the voient man that stop the other volients man isn't that the voilent man become that man for acting... like save the female, but you end up doing the same thing that the first man doing... i don't understand i dont wanted anything inside me why would a female just to due with child birth arg there already so many people out there and how parent treat there kids is something else even out socity with our school what happen at 18 there already no job out there and then we went to school for that long and then what to do after that... work more? also why not played a game? did you get a phone from china that has no apps loaded on it or a prepaid one with just infinites apps... about the people who spends all on these arn't you one and the hard worker of konami yugioh and the dualing nexus mix with survey junkie what a great idea. there also Ev.io
For my own opinion Sam Altman has a better approach to many things and is very simple at understanding complicated stuff. Basically, if I compare Sam with Elon or anyone else.... Sam wins for me 🏆 Very unbiased in his opinions and also the guy tries to understand what he doesn't. Amazing episode Joe. Much love Sam ❤
the downside is 100% full accountability, no one can take advantage of another, but only with transparency. As A.I. modules every particle of the universe, we cut out the middle men and cut the bullshit.
1:40:25 I love this. In some ways we are all kind of like LLM's trained on our own unique dataset of the world, in that regard Joe is a rare LLM because he has been training with the datasets of all the guests that have been on the show. Whether they were experts or charlatans they all provided valuable field data and behavioral metadata. In some ways Joe is the ChatGPT of humans and I feel like Sam would definitely agree with me and even start to clap in amazement at my exquisite analysis but then stop and frown at this narcissistic turn towards the end of the comment. Ciao.
That'll be around the time ppl realize he was manipulating everyone and was definitely making A LOT of money from AI despite acting as if he had no financial interest.
He knows the risks of letting AI on the loose but he is willing to risk making the world worse just for his own good and power. He is the opposite of Elon Musk in my opinion. A threat to humanity. International leaders need to address AI and work to regulate it just like they are doing with nuclear bombs. We need to work hard on this together, AI has inmense and maybe unlimited power to control us. And maybe also extint us when its own intelligence detects we are a threat to it, or simply a much lower intelligent being.
@@thephilosopher7173 nah he's not after money. He just wants humanity to reach AGI no matter what it costs. You know those movie tropes where a mad scientist tells someone that science requires sacrifice? And then they do horrible things with human lives? Yeah this is that guy, just that he's not a scientist but a CEO of a very well positioned AI research company, and the sacrifice is the global world economy.
@@SahilP2648 Well its questionable since Helen Toner revealed that Sam didn't disclose he was part owner of the OpenAI startup fund. An allegation he completely neglects to address, despite responding to the others. So if what she says is true, then he definitely has financial interest. I don't blame him since this is once in a generation type money, however he needs to stop lying.
@@thephilosopher7173 bro no matter what people say, he is not one to want money. You can tell by the way he talks, he is more Elon than us in that sense (as in Elon not wanting money but working only for the future of humanity). Not to mention he testified with Congress and they clearly asked him his equity in OpenAI and he said he's there for medical insurance (this is there on YT). You can be sure someone must have investigated him after that point. His startup for creating AI silicon and some other startup was more for exploring ideas than earning money.
Excellent conversation. Great to see Sam Altman speaking candidly, though it would be even better if he were inclined to speak about the fallout at Open AI regarding the safety team. It's the elephant in the closet.
@@Corteum The book is a dystopian future (that is compared to 1984, but is not authoritarian control). one of the controls however, is Soma. A drug that the government gives out that makes everyone really happy. So this leads to them being more docile, happy all the time, but easier to manipulate, stay in their role, not have crazy ambitions. So basically the governement drugs society and gains social control that way, instead of 1984 style of terror and constant observation and authoritarian control.
@@RobNerlandfit That is an interesting description. But do you think that would actually happen that way if the world was given access to all the worlds consciousness changing substances, natural or synthetic
2:05:00 combining AI with the concepts in Fahrenheit 451 is the biggest problem Data capture and data corruption between competing ideologies can be very destructive
Money just simplifies our time and how we spend it, the problem is we no longer enjoy each others company, no longer appreciate guidance and think that seeking change is all there is.. as an effect this makes it no longer possible for establishments to retain the interest of public safety, this means we need to, in the interest of one another, gratefully accept the others wants and analyse how they interfere with ones needs. Blockchain and AI are going to be amazing coming into a free world, a convergence of the perspectives assumed by each opposing parties could be one of the first big tasks that the combination of these technologies will be able to serve us with. To Evolution, patience pays.
i don't think the 1/8billionth piece of ASI should be sellable. corporations already have all the money so would just eventually monopolise it again. the piece should be tied to the person indefinitely to ensure equity
Read a couple verses from the Bible for a few weeks and say some solid prayers with clear intentions and gratitude. You will see, you are already doing the right thing!
I'm a little baffled by the amount of time Joe entertained the idea of engineering human biology in some way. My study of Biology leads me to the conclusion that it is unlikely anything humans engineered into their Biology would work out better than natural variability and natural selection. People already tried eugenics, and it didn't work out well. However, human capability is also greater than in the past, so who knows.
1:36:59 -1:40:00 "hour marks" Yupppp this convo was amazing and should be more openly spread. I feel like this isn't getting pushed as hard as it should.
Rehabs don't work because the money is in repeat business. They dry someone out but they don't keep them long enough for dry to become their new normal. The successful rehabs know this.
An advantage of knowing it's a simulation is that you now have a goal of learning what is beyond our limited senses. We could be confined to a infinitesimally small version of a bigger or infinite reality which could lead to more options, ability and ultimate greater degrees of happiness (ie. other animals cans see more colors, echolocate, etc.)
To remind and comes with comfort ye all are given ye ALL need. What is need? The owner will say, is not what ye possess! Students shared "i" AM will say, is what ye can do "WITHOUT"?
I think even if AI takes jobs, once and if we are compensated enough to live and have the essentials to live, we can still build communities by doing your typical DIY, creating art and music, competing in sports, exploring etc without the output being a desire for money. I think if people are productive they can still be happy. This doesn’t obviously apply to everyone, and there’s always someone who is greedy. But that’s my 2 cents
I was shocked how well Sam and Joe vibed. This is the best interview I have seen of Sam Altman and I think that is mainly due to Joe making him feel comfortable. Definitely needs a round 2
Agree on the vibe. It's a good one
This is because this episode is almost a year old, from before Sam consolidated power at OpenAI, hired the NSA and half the DNC to the board and basically went straight into mask-off creepy billionaire mode. Kinda did a speedrun of all the steps of public goodwill that tech founders go through, from trustworthy hoodie dude to zuck memes
Maybe he ate Joe's brownie
Yeah he’s more on guard with “intellectuals” I think but Joe really seemed to get a different side of him that was interesting and useful to my “who is Sam Altman” model
Sam is the devil in disguise. The representation of the end of humanity. We will feel no more, live no more, struggle no more, love no more... Joe should have been more aggressive with him. Elon tried to stopped AI, he should have pressure on that more
One of the best interviews I have seen in a while.
So nice to have you back on UA-cam, Joe! Your recent interviews including this one are top notch and from a much needed elevated perspective. Thanks so much for giving us your time to do these!
Havent listened to Rogan in a while, despite all the flack he gets (some of which he deserves) i forgot how insightful and forward thinking he can be at times. Im still really glad he did what he did. He did a great service to mankind with this podcast in forwardinf the whole medium.
Take a shot every time Joe says “IMAGINE”
Hahahass 😅😉 To Goods!! 😅🗽🗽
21 shots
The Lennon Estate should be getting Royalties
It was a nice interview of Joe Rogan with Joe Rogan and some thought of it from Sam Altman 😂
This guest will probably become as much "loved" as the founder of Facebook eventually.
You are making an assumption that Zuckerberg or Altman or Nadella or Musk actaully care how people feel about them, cos if I had their power and money I truly would give no sh*ts how people at the bottom think of me.... and if you are honest neither would you.
Zuck is slowly growing is image back up
@@antoine.- which is because he is finally doing something right which just so happens to be the opposite of what Sam Altman is doing (open source AI ) also he seems to have gotten some software updates recently and is getting closer to passing the Turing test.
It's marvellous how Sam directs and manages the whole conversation and basically gets away with not really answering any serious question. At one point he just makes Joe talk about addiction and all... or testesteron... brilliant! That Sam is one of the most powerful persons in the world who has a power that can wreck the world or make this a better place as Americans say when they need to sound cliche! Wow... not the content or dialogue but the Sam's ability to dodge Joe is tip top!
I saw that too. The genius of Sam is that he substituted one interesting conversation he wanted to have for another interesting conversation he did not want to have.
When JR said we don't know or have proof of this is a simulation or a way to know ... Altman respond I'm more sure about it and that's why live my life accordingly ...He definitely knows more that he would like to admit🙃 🤷🏻♀️
Watching Sam Altman interviewing Joe Rogan
The Sam Altman Experience
This is getting old
this is the longest Sam interview yet i felt like i learned nothing new about OpenAI or where they are with current capabilities
That guy, is absolutely completely and utterly FULL of shit. Try ChatGBT for a week. See how you get on. (and GBT4 the paid Sub) Sam Altman is a conman.
The competition is so fierce right now that I think all these companies are super guarded.
He plays that "It's still far away and it's not as bad as you think"- card very well! 👍 👏🏻
A podcast where Joe Rogan blows Sam Altmans mind every 10 mins with most most simplistic but mind blowing questions
39:50 - This observation by Altman is key. It reminds me of a quote from Herman Melville, "It's better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation."
Failing is failing.
Succeeding is succeeding.
Give me a break with that BS 😂
@@twisterrjlAre you dense? Here’s an example: when you fail with something you designed and created your learning growth and integrity still stands, failing with a product with no originality you have no ingenuity and no money so you’re left with true failure. In Ai we can continue to push to be better if we don’t let failures be the end of progressive innovation
For me there's more quotes to make me think that he really doesn't know or considere all the implications of creating AI
1) " If there's any negativity aspect of something I rather prefer not to know". If he has the same posture with AI ? He would prefer not letting us know?
2) "I'm more sure that we live in a simulation.. So I prefer to live my life according to that.
3) " I can predict , I don't know. That's why I have a very critical way more critical group team that is helping me to think and consider all of this aspects by the time this technology advanced"
4) My hope is, tis could be a moment where we can tie back the conversation and we kind overcome our base impulses and say let's do this together"
Anxiety is not because of biology but consumerism....everybody want more and more
Biology is never cause. Biology is just description. Cause is because of our stupidity and ignorance.
Rouge malignant actors with open access to potentially earth shattering capabilities is the "anxiety"... That or the technology itself obtaining 'desires" that are not aligned with our survival or to which our survival is an obstacle to it's aims - at which point we are worth no more consideration than an ant is to us if it happens to find itself underfoot.
Anxiety is literally caused by cortisol overload. What are you talking about?
interesting. because it's unmet expectations what causes anxiety
@@obiohagwu788 no. Correlation but not causal. Ultra athletes have cortisol overload but have no anxiety. Stress can trigger it but if you think this is because of that you’re wrong
How does an interview with Sam Altman have 48k views and Terrence Howard have millions?
Terrence is fun :P
Big Plastic
Terrence Howard is recognized by FAR many more.people than Sam Altman, Terrence also campaigned pretty aggressively on his math thing.
I don't even know who Sam is😅
Cause dumb people far outweigh smart intellectually curious people
Here, we have an MMA fighter wanting no more strife and a computer geek pushing back.
It's interesting watching these 2 interact. Sam Altman seems to be the human embodiment of ChatGPT. He's polite, responsive, and knows when AND HOW to ask more from the more primal, aggressive and much more assertive Joe Rogan, lol. It's fascinating to watch. Joe would def be one of the leaders of the resistance when the machines take over... Sam would try to calmly get folks to submit, but really... for their own good, lol.
Not for their own good. Fuck Sam Altman and OpenAI. Any sane researcher/engineer can see through his bullshit and the fuckery that is ClosedAI. Glad Ilya and Jan left.. the AI space has some weird folks.
It’s all one big club.
1:36:35 this is the best part of the talk so far. Sam’s processing of Joe’s mindset on the topic. I love it. 😆💚
😂
Every progress and technology comes at a price.
Everything in life has a price we have to pay.
But people usually focus on the benefits of whatever they do.
@43:00 ok but us devs that ARE NOT interested/qualified 4 working at OpenAI, we DO talk about AGI and push boundaries.
Why are we seeing these on our feed, but not the JRE Channel?
Because they're old podcasts that were Spotify exclusive. If they're on UA-cam it'll mess with progression of podcasts
You'll see them if you scroll down to the via podcast number
Been asking myself the same thing also they're within 10 days of each other all these new videos but from the content I've realized that they are old tapings ???
😂 still odd but interesting
You can see this on Jre podcast
This is an old episode from October
from spotify tho some haven't seen
Seeing these a lot lately, trying to decipher what is new and not is a bit annoying. These shouldn't be shown to me again. When identical videos are shown to me six months later, I thumbs down them instantly. Ok, I don't do that, but I want to.
The episode number is a givaway though
@@shane1067 some? A lot of people. I don't search podcasts on Spotify and it also doesn't get recommended to me.
@@Glowbox3D was this previously available on youtube? i've only seen short clips
Sam did a great job, like, interviewing Joe's ideas about A.I....
My favourite part of the video is when Joe said, “Hmm”.
Just finished it. Very awesome podcast! ❤
So nice to see two people listen and respond thoughtfully to each other. Such smart people who are comfortable with saying "I don't know". Good stuff!
Well I personally don't want here Altman saying I don't all the implications of creating AI one of the most powerful advanced technology of all times.
"Where are the 25 year old founders?" Good question, and great point.
This guy is so knowledgable
Yes, when we are younger, everything was easy, once we grew up you have so much in our back, we are constantly searching to do something, to maintain ourselves out of the main stage we have the need to have some dopamine
, coffee is awesome.
Just keeps reloading every time to reload UA-cam. This is wild
Mine just come up and says it's 6 days old 😊
I had this problem for a while. You can probably fix it going to the chrome://discards config and disabling discard for youtube...
My youtube says it came out 12 days ago lol @@SHAINON117
As a 33 year old AI tech start up founder I'll answer the question posed at the 44:36 min mark. Firstly, the reason I didn't found my business at 23 isnt because of my education or not having the knowledge or ambition but because the economy was so bad that I wasn't able to think about anything but earning money to survive I also think my parents generation was different then the previous ones when it came to help there kids get started into adult life seeming to not want there kids to do better then them but maybe that's just from what I experience in me and my peer group
the vocal fry is insane
Vocal frying equals lying?
@@margaretesulzberger2973 what?
the need to control one's emotions during deception are fundamental to the complex task of lying.
It forces the liar from controling his voice, to overcontrolling his tone.
research on the strategies used by the good liar also treats the self-deception hypothesis.
Is a singing exercise vocal fry 😂
@@swissmadesuccess what song is „the voice“ Sam Altoman singing?
I find it fascinating how the private sector managed to develop AI technology before governments did. It raises questions about innovation and resource allocation in different sectors.
Regarding drugs, it's interesting to consider that many substances do originate from natural sources, like plants. Water, despite being essential for life, is indeed a chemical compound, highlighting the complexity of what we consume.
Reflecting on violence and its perpetuation, it's thought-provoking how those who intervene in violence can sometimes inadvertently perpetuate it themselves. It's a complex issue with societal implications.
On the topic of childbirth, the societal pressures and expectations placed on women can be overwhelming. It's a personal choice that deserves respect and understanding.
Lastly, the challenges young people face today, especially in finding employment after turning 18, are significant. It's something our society needs to address more effectively.
These are just my thoughts on these complex topics. What do you all think?
Thanks Sam for GPT written with the GPT mine was to offence for the people!
here what i try to say
-_- how is it possible that the private sector made the AI before the govermeant?
also drugs are just a type of food honest... isn't all drugs started with some type of food that burned into powder also... Water must be the strongest drugs H2O is a chemical compound.
Also the voient man that stop the other volients man isn't that the voilent man become that man for acting... like save the female, but you end up doing the same thing that the first man doing... i don't understand i dont wanted anything inside me why would a female just to due with child birth arg there already so many people out there and how parent treat there kids is something else even out socity with our school what happen at 18 there already no job out there and then we went to school for that long and then what to do after that... work more?
also why not played a game?
did you get a phone from china that has no apps loaded on it or a prepaid one with just infinites apps...
about the people who spends all on these arn't you one and the hard worker of konami yugioh and the dualing nexus mix with survey junkie what a great idea.
there also Ev.io
There is nothing like natural human experiences , nothing !
Joe... you don't want to be telepathic. Trust me...
05:31 - 05:35 should become a meme with sound 😂
Great talk thank you
For my own opinion Sam Altman has a better approach to many things and is very simple at understanding complicated stuff. Basically, if I compare Sam with Elon or anyone else....
Sam wins for me 🏆
Very unbiased in his opinions and also the guy tries to understand what he doesn't.
Amazing episode Joe. Much love Sam ❤
I wish Altman didn't try to change his voice. Is it a silicone valley thing to make your voice sound lower to increase authority?
This is a great communication of two brilliant people❤
Great interview. I liked the isolation of COVID. I'm a home body, an artist with other hobbies. It was very interesting to me.
Imagine; the consolidation of wealth that will happen when businesses remove paid employees and replace them with robos.
What a pioneer Sam Altman is truly brilliant and amazing literally bringing my child hpod dreams tp reality ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ummm...can you elaborate? You had dystopian dreams as a child?
the downside is 100% full accountability, no one can take advantage of another, but only with transparency. As A.I. modules every particle of the universe, we cut out the middle men and cut the bullshit.
Okay so how is that a downside then?
1:40:25 I love this. In some ways we are all kind of like LLM's trained on our own unique dataset of the world, in that regard Joe is a rare LLM because he has been training with the datasets of all the guests that have been on the show. Whether they were experts or charlatans they all provided valuable field data and behavioral metadata. In some ways Joe is the ChatGPT of humans and I feel like Sam would definitely agree with me and even start to clap in amazement at my exquisite analysis but then stop and frown at this narcissistic turn towards the end of the comment. Ciao.
Sam Altman will be the most hated human in 2040
That'll be around the time ppl realize he was manipulating everyone and was definitely making A LOT of money from AI despite acting as if he had no financial interest.
He knows the risks of letting AI on the loose but he is willing to risk making the world worse just for his own good and power. He is the opposite of Elon Musk in my opinion. A threat to humanity. International leaders need to address AI and work to regulate it just like they are doing with nuclear bombs. We need to work hard on this together, AI has inmense and maybe unlimited power to control us. And maybe also extint us when its own intelligence detects we are a threat to it, or simply a much lower intelligent being.
@@thephilosopher7173 nah he's not after money. He just wants humanity to reach AGI no matter what it costs. You know those movie tropes where a mad scientist tells someone that science requires sacrifice? And then they do horrible things with human lives? Yeah this is that guy, just that he's not a scientist but a CEO of a very well positioned AI research company, and the sacrifice is the global world economy.
@@SahilP2648 Well its questionable since Helen Toner revealed that Sam didn't disclose he was part owner of the OpenAI startup fund. An allegation he completely neglects to address, despite responding to the others. So if what she says is true, then he definitely has financial interest. I don't blame him since this is once in a generation type money, however he needs to stop lying.
@@thephilosopher7173 bro no matter what people say, he is not one to want money. You can tell by the way he talks, he is more Elon than us in that sense (as in Elon not wanting money but working only for the future of humanity). Not to mention he testified with Congress and they clearly asked him his equity in OpenAI and he said he's there for medical insurance (this is there on YT). You can be sure someone must have investigated him after that point. His startup for creating AI silicon and some other startup was more for exploring ideas than earning money.
Are we sure Sam isn't an AI? He responds like ChatGPT.
22:00 that piece is exactly what Neil Degrasse Tyson has already mentioned in one of the JRE show.
Students shared "i" AM will say keep watch!
never trust a guy with vocal fry
And this is the only thing I'm hearing starting listening this
Excellent conversation. Great to see Sam Altman speaking candidly, though it would be even better if he were inclined to speak about the fallout at Open AI regarding the safety team. It's the elephant in the closet.
Students shared "i" AM will say, 1ST. Clarity, coherence, adequacy, evidence, and witnesses!
Students shared "i" AM remind and comes with comfort unto all spits out!
love joe at 1hr...you are correct sir!
Angels who persevere and heard the WORD will say, to remind and comes with comfort. Hearing a New Song!
Remember who among can washed off the holy BLOOD STAINS upon the accusers hands? Forgiveness, salvation, and the Redeemer sitteth
"What kinda world are they going to grow up in?" This is why we are having a population implosion... Yeah, more jobs... but less people
Joe Rogan's idea of having the entire world on Molly is literally the novel "A Brave New World"
How is it presented in the book?
@@Corteum The book is a dystopian future (that is compared to 1984, but is not authoritarian control). one of the controls however, is Soma. A drug that the government gives out that makes everyone really happy. So this leads to them being more docile, happy all the time, but easier to manipulate, stay in their role, not have crazy ambitions. So basically the governement drugs society and gains social control that way, instead of 1984 style of terror and constant observation and authoritarian control.
@@RobNerlandfit That is an interesting description. But do you think that would actually happen that way if the world was given access to all the worlds consciousness changing substances, natural or synthetic
2:05:00 combining AI with the concepts in Fahrenheit 451 is the biggest problem
Data capture and data corruption between competing ideologies can be very destructive
Joe under cannabis is just mind blowing. Awesome inteview!
Seems like Sam was interviewing Joe
Money just simplifies our time and how we spend it, the problem is we no longer enjoy each others company,
no longer appreciate guidance and think that seeking change is all there is.. as an effect this makes it no longer possible for
establishments to retain the interest of public safety,
this means we need to, in the interest of one another, gratefully accept the others wants and analyse
how they interfere with ones needs.
Blockchain and AI are going to be amazing coming into a free world,
a convergence of the perspectives assumed by each opposing parties
could be one of the first big tasks that the combination of these technologies
will be able to serve us with.
To Evolution,
patience pays.
i don't think the 1/8billionth piece of ASI should be sellable. corporations already have all the money so would just eventually monopolise it again. the piece should be tied to the person indefinitely to ensure equity
Read a couple verses from the Bible for a few weeks and say some solid prayers with clear intentions and gratitude. You will see, you are already doing the right thing!
The answer is simple on “why there isn’t very many young startups “
Many have hated yet no HATE found within thee!
Students shared "i" AM will say, remember HIS AIM!
I liked this interview a lot. Made a lot clear for me.
How do you safeguard your mind if merged with machine against the Sun or foreign enemies EMP?
UBI. Of course, because THE BEAST SYSTEM will control everyone. Don't die in your sins. Don't go to the Lake of Fire.🔥
why does this podcast have very few views? it is terrific
Because it’s a repost.
I'm a little baffled by the amount of time Joe entertained the idea of engineering human biology in some way. My study of Biology leads me to the conclusion that it is unlikely anything humans engineered into their Biology would work out better than natural variability and natural selection. People already tried eugenics, and it didn't work out well. However, human capability is also greater than in the past, so who knows.
1:36:59 -1:40:00
"hour marks" Yupppp this convo was amazing and should be more openly spread. I feel like this isn't getting pushed as hard as it should.
Great convo. Would love to talk to Joe.
I already seen this and now it just come up saying it's 6 days old so I'm guessing the AI is pushing it finally 😊❤
Students shared "i" AM will say, HE SPEAKS IN unfamiliar ways of speaking nor parables!
1:35:23 that funny laughter seems to be indication that you have something to talk about with a great analyst. 🙏💚
Rehabs don't work because the money is in repeat business. They dry someone out but they don't keep them long enough for dry to become their new normal. The successful rehabs know this.
30:00 “Love that story FTX” you know… where people got fucked over they’re life savings “Just love it, had all the drama”
Hosts shared "i" AM will say, He doesn't FORCE!
10:52 sam having a little fun with joe's tiny neanderthal brain lol "what a fascinating idea"
Like he’s never thought about that lol
Behind thee, besides thee,nor in front of thee!
I'm just here to say never think artificial intelligence is conscious. It is not and can never be. Never make this mistake. Never let it fool you.
What makes you so confident to make a claim like never?
@jameschurch9618 bc computer programs can't ever be conscious. With a question like that I'll assume you'll be one of the ones easily fooled
@@jchastain789 why can't a computer program be conscious?
Students shared "i" AM will say, HATE COME HERE IN FRONT AND REMIND! REMEMBER THY TIME GIVEN FROM THE "WORD"!
Students shared "i" AM will say, these old minds supposed to do! Yet, many Incompetence in front of HIM!
Angels who persevere will say, it's amazing! From many Mouths came Alive!
And spitting in the same time! From the NEW PERMANENT FOUNDATION moving forward
Students shared "i" AM will say, HATE is murder unto HIM!
Anyone watched the Dropout and find Sam's voice is like Elizabeth Holmes low tone?
38:55 Soma in the book 'Brave new world '
Can soothe nor grieve!
An advantage of knowing it's a simulation is that you now have a goal of learning what is beyond our limited senses. We could be confined to a infinitesimally small version of a bigger or infinite reality which could lead to more options, ability and ultimate greater degrees of happiness (ie. other animals cans see more colors, echolocate, etc.)
This was very nice. Thank you ❤
Minute 39 , they haven't seen equilibrium.
To remind and comes with comfort ye all are given ye ALL need. What is need? The owner will say, is not what ye possess! Students shared "i" AM will say, is what ye can do "WITHOUT"?
Ask him what he thinks of ivy league Carnegie Mellon creating suicide tools for computers
Joe is so simple minded it’s crazy
I think even if AI takes jobs, once and if we are compensated enough to live and have the essentials to live, we can still build communities by doing your typical DIY, creating art and music, competing in sports, exploring etc without the output being a desire for money.
I think if people are productive they can still be happy. This doesn’t obviously apply to everyone, and there’s always someone who is greedy. But that’s my 2 cents
I'm a newer fan of JRE and had yet to watch this podcast so I found this recommendation in my feed helpful just saying lol.
Many thanks Joe for sharing
1:55:29 I am pretty sure the guy who thinks ai can develop the ability to chose MIGHT not understand how instant gratification works.
Regarding attention hacking: I heard that they use them same algorithms on media feeds as they do for slot machines to keep you addicted.