If current Yujiro was bloodlusted then I’d move everyone down one tier tbh. I still don’t feel like we’ve seen him go all out. Or maybe there should be a tier above demon back.
@@frogartti he is never bloodlusted if you wanna see purely menace yuijiro than the yuijiro from Vietnam war when he was 16 years old is the one He did not hold back his technique or punches he straight up skinned the soldier dismembered them and literally played with their internal organ and stuff The new middle aged yuijiro focuses on overwhelming his opponent mentally and not go all out every time
Baki defeated everyone and at the end of his fight with his dad, Yujiro just stood there arms wide open taking every hit like it was pure pleasure. This dude has not even begun to see defeat. He is way over powered compared to everyone. I wish they would tell more about Yujiro's father and the origin of their bloodline.
Personally I feel like pickle is in a weird limbo when it comes to facing yujiro. He’s kind of like the series mascot in a way bc he’s just a savage brute with maxed endurance and strength with almost no technique. It would hands down be in yujiro favor on combat experience alone, but yujiro hesitates bc he probably want to challenge pickles strength and endurance to prove he’s better at being a savage than even the caveman himself. It genuinely feels like yujiro keeps him around as a pet dog lol I swear
I agree. In a contest of Strength yujiro lost. Yujiro doesn’t use technique and prefers power but against pickle he would have too use some technique proving he need more then his strength he needed technique to win. Also he wants to face someone that could do both so against pickle it wouldn’t be as fun.
I think Pickle got massively nerfed, the way he was portrayed in his arc felt more so like what a fight between an average orc and an average human would look like, without insane technique, better battle experience and incredible luck, it's borderline impossible for a human to win. That's what it felt like Pickle, characters literally broke the laws of physics and still couldn't put a scratch on him. But now I'm supposed to believe that Jack is able to physically overpower him? I can understand titanium teeth biting through pickle but Pickle was manhandling characters like they were weightless toddlers. Hopefully the next few chapters showing something more convincing.
I think it would be peak writing if during the Jack versus yujiro rematch, yujiro says something to Jack like you remind me of your grandfather, then they go into a whole backstory on Grandpa hanma😂😂
They did get knocked out, but the point is, when Baki got back up, the fingers up the nose trick stopped Oliva ball technique while also doing some damage. Baki also pointed out “you can’t use the same trick twice against a top tier opponent”, further proving that they did counter the technique.
Musashi comes back stronger. Number 2 in verse and stronger then Baki. Cant help it, im a huge fan. I really liked that arc and his character design and attitude . Belive he wss the Yujiro of his time.
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It’s perfectly reasonable why. The guy was born with zero talent and always had the ego of a wannabe god. He lies cheats and steals his way to the top and even after getting humbled does it time and time again. His determination is admirable, but the guy is still a huge ahole with very little character development thru the whole series.
I'm still waiting for my guy Kaiou Dorian, the gray-beard American. I think he has an awesome potential, never really lost a fight, and super interesting back story.
One of my headcanon theories is that that jujiro an his father were training when yujiro was around 13 or 15 years old and uchiro decided to drop his gard internationally because he didn't want to accidentally kill yujiro so yujiro killed his father and that drove yujiro even further over the edge and he went completely insane especially since he knows his father would have beaten him at that age of 13 to 15 so now yujiro wants his own son to be strong enough to kill him of course this is just a theory no proof and I'm sure it's probably not what happened but I think it's a interesting theory I'm not even sure if the time line works out but in baki the time line's don't make any sense anyway
Yujiro is just as strong as the plots needs him to be. Even tho baki now should in theory be stronger than yujiro at the start of “baki the grappler” if they were to fight yujiro would not lose and will prob atleast draw. And if their is suddenly a alien or smt that is 2 as strong as yujiro when they would fight yujiro would win
26:34 well not an antagonist, but takamura mamoru is considered the strongest boxer in his weightclass for more than 1000 consecutive chapters of Hajime no Ippo
As much as I enjoy the ham in this series, I do think the author is a little too in love with Yujiro, so much so that I'd doubt our titular character (or anyone else for that matter) will ever be allowed to actually come even close to defeating him. Even their last fight in which Yujiro declared Baki the strongest was just out of pride as a father more so than it was Baki coming anywhere near actually overpowering him.
Jack may not need to. Rn he easily beats katsumi, Hanayama etc. if we’re being honest jacks not gonna fight Baki unless Baki starts it. It’s yuji he wants obviously. But that’s the point of Baki rahen he’s gonna show them goudou
My personal belief when it comes to Yujiro vs Yuichiro is that it'd be like the outcome of Yujiro vs Baki: Yujiro could best Yuichiro when looking at physical strength alone, but would never be able to best his father in the battle of minds, just as how Baki did to Yujiro. I believe Yuichiro would never be able to be beaten in terms of mental strength.
Pretty Accurate Tier List and with Logical Reasons u gave, completely agree with the Character placements W video. But the thing that Surprised me was Isekai Retsu potentially maybe as strong as The Ogre, I am not following the side manga But didnt expect him to be this strong i thought he would atmost be mid diff still. Would definitely love to see a video on Breaking down of Isekai Retsu and His placements against the Top characters.
@@Kraz4912 here is a breakdown from a while ago, way more chaps out now but covers quite a bite: ua-cam.com/video/kkZUIiyJh9A/v-deo.htmlsi=JIhmUBG8S6_D0ZRo
12:30 as a pickle fan , I say yujiro solos with low dif , pickle is so slow when he is fighting almost every fighter is faster than him , so his strength and durability won’t even matter in the fight because he can’t even defend himself
Unfortunally the author doesnt think like you do and jack will not do anything to yujiro or in fact he wont even face him and that slap on the ass from yujiro was a way of the author to say hes not at that level but strong enough to be acknowledge by his father
I think that what will happend to jack in this arc that he will win against many fighters , but after he will lose the first fight ( i think againt yujiro) he will loose again in revanche fights , perhaps against baki or pickel , so it will be like sukune against mr, unchained
Bruh the only Upgrade Jack has its his attack potency, including his bite fetish and just a bit of strength with speed too He is not stronger than Pickle
dope tier list altho i just disagree with baki being stronger than Musashi as he literally beat mid tiers without an actual sword. im pretty sure if he used a sword on baki hed die(i knoe he had a sword but he never used it). also hanyama should be in demon baki tier my main reasoning is he has no reason to fight hanyama and we see how he matured and sorta became more peacful in his own series. as that last villain who knew yujiro thought rex was so strong he had to be a hanma and his about equal to hanyama
i love pickle and hanayama but i think at this point the both get low diffed. hanayama especially since i feel like he hasn't really gotten anything to show the fight would go different than it did when he was a kid. He's physically stronger now sure, but so is yujiro and by orders of magnitude more.
I dont think Baki is stronger then Musashi.... reason being Baki was hit by a bunch of imaginary cut...meaning if Musashi had his swords he would have got cut up if he went all out
Imagine if Pickle somehow awakens a demon back, that'd be crazy. Imagine if isekai retsu can somehow come back, that'd be crazy. Imagine if they genetically engineer a dragon, that'd be crazy. Imagine if they create a clone of Yujiro, that'd be crazy. Imagine if they bring back a T-Rex, that'd be crazy.
The only ones who should be in mid diff are pickel,Oliva,Motobe with prep,Kaku kaio,and maybe retsu the rest i dont see doing anythink to yujiro. Hanayama for exp. got low diffed in the manga so how is he in mid diff
Alright i gotta say this bro. Pickle is overrated. Baki was clapping pickles cheeks in at the end of their fight while baki was high diffing oliva PLUS baki never even beat olivas ball and the fight was only settled after both decided to use only strength. Oliva > pickle and its not super surprising that jack is beating pickle right now.
Baki tried to beat both using only brute force. The only difference being Oliva lost to Baki, while Pickle won. Obviously tho Baki beats Pickle Low diff with techniques
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0:33 - Doppo Orochi
4:55 - Biscuit Oliva
7:05 - Jack Hanma
9:37 - Pickle
12:34 - Goki Shibukawa
13:51 - Kaku Kaioh
16:18 - Kaoru Hanayama
17:20 - Sumo Fighters
17:56 - Katsumi Orochi
18:35 - Motobe
20:15 - Miyamoto Musashi
21:19 - Prisoners
21:55 - Retsu Kaioh
22:37 - Gaia
22:55 - Kureha Shinogi
22:57 - Che Guevara
23:10 - Koushou Shinogi
23:32 - Miscellaneous
23:45 - Yuuichiro Hanma
24:46 - Baki Hanma
60 y old doppo : "Back in my days I could bench 4 plates"
"Bro you just did 5 super easy"
"I know, I got stronger"
If current Yujiro was bloodlusted then I’d move everyone down one tier tbh. I still don’t feel like we’ve seen him go all out. Or maybe there should be a tier above demon back.
@@frogartti he was blood lusted when Motobe interrupted his Miyamoto fight imo
Oh yes down everyone even him self in the tier list
@@mysteriousweeb I don’t think so. Also he’s gotten a lot stronger since then.
I think he was bloodlusted against Doppo when he first revealed the Demon Back
@@frogartti he is never bloodlusted if you wanna see purely menace yuijiro than the yuijiro from Vietnam war when he was 16 years old is the one
He did not hold back his technique or punches he straight up skinned the soldier dismembered them and literally played with their internal organ and stuff
The new middle aged yuijiro focuses on overwhelming his opponent mentally and not go all out every time
Baki defeated everyone and at the end of his fight with his dad, Yujiro just stood there arms wide open taking every hit like it was pure pleasure. This dude has not even begun to see defeat. He is way over powered compared to everyone. I wish they would tell more about Yujiro's father and the origin of their bloodline.
Yuichiro Hanma
Current Yujiro going all out would honestly knock everyone down a few levels
one day he'll wake up and try end everyone
@@mysteriousweeb i mean.. bros shadow shook a city with no trouble thats craazy
Personally I feel like pickle is in a weird limbo when it comes to facing yujiro. He’s kind of like the series mascot in a way bc he’s just a savage brute with maxed endurance and strength with almost no technique.
It would hands down be in yujiro favor on combat experience alone, but yujiro hesitates bc he probably want to challenge pickles strength and endurance to prove he’s better at being a savage than even the caveman himself. It genuinely feels like yujiro keeps him around as a pet dog lol I swear
I agree. In a contest of Strength yujiro lost. Yujiro doesn’t use technique and prefers power but against pickle he would have too use some technique proving he need more then his strength he needed technique to win.
Also he wants to face someone that could do both so against pickle it wouldn’t be as fun.
I always wonder what would of happen if Yujiro fought everyone on the tournament at the same time before getting slept on by the military
@@kaisim980 bro would of won during that arc
I think Pickle got massively nerfed, the way he was portrayed in his arc felt more so like what a fight between an average orc and an average human would look like, without insane technique, better battle experience and incredible luck, it's borderline impossible for a human to win.
That's what it felt like Pickle, characters literally broke the laws of physics and still couldn't put a scratch on him. But now I'm supposed to believe that Jack is able to physically overpower him? I can understand titanium teeth biting through pickle but Pickle was manhandling characters like they were weightless toddlers.
Hopefully the next few chapters showing something more convincing.
I think it would be peak writing if during the Jack versus yujiro rematch, yujiro says something to Jack like you remind me of your grandfather, then they go into a whole backstory on Grandpa hanma😂😂
Correction, Baki counter Oliva ball technique with the old fingers up the nose trick.
Didnt he get knocked out then awakened the demon back
They did get knocked out, but the point is, when Baki got back up, the fingers up the nose trick stopped Oliva ball technique while also doing some damage. Baki also pointed out “you can’t use the same trick twice against a top tier opponent”, further proving that they did counter the technique.
kinda i guess
yea yujiro vs isekai retsu would be a cool video, retsu content is always appreciated
Always wanted to see Jack and Baki jump yujiro at thanksgiving lol 😂
Current yujiro all out would be a repeat of old baki when he fought everyone in The underground arena hands down
Musashi comes back stronger. Number 2 in verse and stronger then Baki. Cant help it, im a huge fan. I really liked that arc and his character design and attitude . Belive he wss the Yujiro of his time.
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@@mysteriousweeb yo can u make a vid of baki or characters in general vs young yujiro which is shown in anime with Muhammad ali
@@mxk3384 MEMBERS ARE VOTING FOR A TEEN YUJIRO VS TEEN BAKI VIDEO. IF THAT WINS I WILL COVER ALOT OF STUFF ABOUT THAT TOPIC
would love to see the retsu vs yujiro isekai please
@@mysteriousweeb so where did you put Baki on tier-list?
Do you have the full image of the baki that appears in the thumbnail? It looks very cool!
i wonder what the outcome would be if all the high tiers jumped yujiro lmao
A shinjuku showdown arc from jjk but in baki would kinda be fire
Awesome list as usual hope no Jack haters say he gets low diffed
He’s got as many haters as fans.
Unfortunately
It’s perfectly reasonable why. The guy was born with zero talent and always had the ego of a wannabe god. He lies cheats and steals his way to the top and even after getting humbled does it time and time again.
His determination is admirable, but the guy is still a huge ahole with very little character development thru the whole series.
@@dah_goofster lol you gotta be some sort of troll
I'm still waiting for my guy Kaiou Dorian, the gray-beard American. I think he has an awesome potential, never really lost a fight, and super interesting back story.
One of my headcanon theories is that that jujiro an his father were training when yujiro was around 13 or 15 years old and uchiro decided to drop his gard internationally because he didn't want to accidentally kill yujiro so yujiro killed his father and that drove yujiro even further over the edge and he went completely insane especially since he knows his father would have beaten him at that age of 13 to 15 so now yujiro wants his own son to be strong enough to kill him of course this is just a theory no proof and I'm sure it's probably not what happened but I think it's a interesting theory I'm not even sure if the time line works out but in baki the time line's don't make any sense anyway
Funny how i know he would win againts everyone but i guess its good to know how atrong each of them are.
you'll see some people who show up in the comments saying yujiro loses to yuichiro or musashi
@@mysteriousweeb he loses to Yuichiro (my king 😍🥰) and to Musashi (GOAT🐐🔥🗣️) anyway 🥱
@@JG-jz3wh FR
Yujiro is just as strong as the plots needs him to be. Even tho baki now should in theory be stronger than yujiro at the start of “baki the grappler” if they were to fight yujiro would not lose and will prob atleast draw. And if their is suddenly a alien or smt that is 2 as strong as yujiro when they would fight yujiro would win
26:34 well not an antagonist, but takamura mamoru is considered the strongest boxer in his weightclass for more than 1000 consecutive chapters of Hajime no Ippo
Takamura has been knocked unconscious multiple times now. Don't compare him to Yujiro.
21:58 dont do restu like tha bro 😭
retsu*
As much as I enjoy the ham in this series, I do think the author is a little too in love with Yujiro, so much so that I'd doubt our titular character (or anyone else for that matter) will ever be allowed to actually come even close to defeating him. Even their last fight in which Yujiro declared Baki the strongest was just out of pride as a father more so than it was Baki coming anywhere near actually overpowering him.
I need 16 year old Baki vs 16 year old yujiro
;0
Yujiro still win
Yujiro destroys Baki still lol.
@@Jaywiththemglocks Baki, mid diff
@@KUNUx1 Baki would slam a teenage yujiro.
Loved the video man
@@MarcoAntonio-wn3qi cheers
Lets remember that jack told goudou is still a long way from perfection (sumo arc) ❤️🔥
Love to see maybe... Hanzo Hittori Arc!
Jack defeating Baki, should not occur. Baki is Baki.
I agree it would be a waist... Yujiro feels like a much more reasonable fight.
Na
Jack may not need to. Rn he easily beats katsumi, Hanayama etc. if we’re being honest jacks not gonna fight Baki unless Baki starts it. It’s yuji he wants obviously. But that’s the point of Baki rahen he’s gonna show them goudou
No I think the main character shouldn't be on top, instead Jack defeating him. That should be better in my opinion
@@_.thealtbutton._3483 Jack is the main character now. You haven’t been paying attention
My personal belief when it comes to Yujiro vs Yuichiro is that it'd be like the outcome of Yujiro vs Baki: Yujiro could best Yuichiro when looking at physical strength alone, but would never be able to best his father in the battle of minds, just as how Baki did to Yujiro. I believe Yuichiro would never be able to be beaten in terms of mental strength.
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yujiro should take on the verse at the same time
I think this guy is toastedshoes in disguise
only people capable of even giving bro a fight is his own sons and pickle 😂.
@@unrecognizably not true, watch the video
@@unrecognizably Musaschi and yuichiro Lauchging in the cirner
If jack awakens demon back it would be crazy!!!
Pretty Accurate Tier List and with Logical Reasons u gave, completely agree with the Character placements W video.
But the thing that Surprised me was Isekai Retsu potentially maybe as strong as The Ogre, I am not following the side manga But didnt expect him to be this strong i thought he would atmost be mid diff still. Would definitely love to see a video on Breaking down of Isekai Retsu and His placements against the Top characters.
yeah, its becoming like those regular op isekai protag type things
@@mysteriousweeb lol does he also have a harem there? XD
@@Kraz4912 here is a breakdown from a while ago, way more chaps out now but covers quite a bite: ua-cam.com/video/kkZUIiyJh9A/v-deo.htmlsi=JIhmUBG8S6_D0ZRo
thanks man
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12:30 as a pickle fan , I say yujiro solos with low dif , pickle is so slow when he is fighting almost every fighter is faster than him , so his strength and durability won’t even matter in the fight because he can’t even defend himself
yujiro vs shen wulong in omega before gtaVI
hmm
Unfortunally the author doesnt think like you do and jack will not do anything to yujiro or in fact he wont even face him and that slap on the ass from yujiro was a way of the author to say hes not at that level but strong enough to be acknowledge by his father
We need to see Yujiro vs Florida to happen
Ogre vs Musashi ogre wins but Musashi is considered honoured person in Japan so show can't make him lose
I think that what will happend to jack in this arc that he will win against many fighters , but after he will lose the first fight ( i think againt yujiro) he will loose again in revanche fights , perhaps against baki or pickel , so it will be like sukune against mr, unchained
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Everyone is an easy fight for Yujiro if he fights seriously.
Sukune is jack level even with drugs and taller size. Pickle is aducational person with yujiro level skeleton.
wot
What is Jack tasting Hanma flesh is what unlocks his demon back? 🤷🏿
Bro next rahen chap date??
24th, now watch the vid
Bruh the only Upgrade Jack has its his attack potency, including his bite fetish and just a bit of strength with speed too
He is not stronger than Pickle
Now try biscuit oliva
great video and all but when are we gonna see you oiled up ?
Good question!
Top 5 yujiro baki musashi oliver jack then probably pickle at 6
eh
No
dope tier list altho i just disagree with baki being stronger than Musashi as he literally beat mid tiers without an actual sword. im pretty sure if he used a sword on baki hed die(i knoe he had a sword but he never used it). also hanyama should be in demon baki tier my main reasoning is he has no reason to fight hanyama and we see how he matured and sorta became more peacful in his own series. as that last villain who knew yujiro thought rex was so strong he had to be a hanma and his about equal to hanyama
Sad to see Hanayama so low
Dang no time stamps in bio or comments?
Pickle see Jack as a T-Rex he still have chances because T-Rex are a prey for Pickle, I think Pickle will start counter attack in the next chapter.
Isekai retsu vs yujiro
god vs god
Yujiro will kill jack in baki rahen. Mark my words 😢
@@ArthurMorgan6645 could very well happen, mentioned it in this end of Baki theory video: ua-cam.com/video/3pCAeat0h24/v-deo.html
I think jack could surpise us even if yujiro could win
@@trololo152 What's it worth when he disrespects yujiro to a point that he kills him 😬.....
@@trololo152yujiro is going to win. If Baki can’t beat yujiro no one can. I just can’t wait for jack Vs Baki rematch
Nahhhh I see him winning against Jack obviously but I don’t see him ending Jack, I see him winning and then maybe acknowledging Jack
Bro i have a question why didn't retsu used xio lee(shahori) in front of pickle??
i love pickle and hanayama but i think at this point the both get low diffed. hanayama especially since i feel like he hasn't really gotten anything to show the fight would go different than it did when he was a kid. He's physically stronger now sure, but so is yujiro and by orders of magnitude more.
I dont think Baki is stronger then Musashi.... reason being Baki was hit by a bunch of imaginary cut...meaning if Musashi had his swords he would have got cut up if he went all out
Hey guys, where do I read these manga??
@@davesawyer1164 links posted in the discord
Bro why did you put Oliver's wife in the list 😂😂
why wouldn't musashi be draw?
watch the vid, explained why
damn, chiharu over ali jr and the prisoners
Yujiro neg diff bakiverse sauf baki musashi et jack
Imagine if Pickle somehow awakens a demon back, that'd be crazy.
Imagine if isekai retsu can somehow come back, that'd be crazy.
Imagine if they genetically engineer a dragon, that'd be crazy.
Imagine if they create a clone of Yujiro, that'd be crazy.
Imagine if they bring back a T-Rex, that'd be crazy.
Could the ogre survive a kengan match
Yes
Didnt current Doppo get knocked out by Ali jr?
Doppo was just playing
Yujiro would destroy biscuit Oliva but what about cookie oliva
for me kaku kaio is one tier above
i think goki gets one shotted
Base Form Gouki low diffs Yujiro to neg diffs
oil up bro we want to see it
only for merch owners
The only ones who should be in mid diff are pickel,Oliva,Motobe with prep,Kaku kaio,and maybe retsu the rest i dont see doing anythink to yujiro. Hanayama for exp. got low diffed in the manga so how is he in mid diff
He wins
oil up lil bro
only for members
I think doppo is stronger than olivia
Yall know baki is yaoi right?
I expect Jack make a Worthy fight against Yujiro his Background are the best : ua-cam.com/video/LFuk1Z0Ne88/v-deo.htmlsi=jDZMtz3EZcAz6RlZ
Alright i gotta say this bro. Pickle is overrated. Baki was clapping pickles cheeks in at the end of their fight while baki was high diffing oliva PLUS baki never even beat olivas ball and the fight was only settled after both decided to use only strength. Oliva > pickle and its not super surprising that jack is beating pickle right now.
WE NEED THAT OLIVA VS PICKLE CLASH. OR OLIVA AGAINST ANY OTHER MAIN FIGHTER AT THIS POINT
Baki tried to beat both using only brute force. The only difference being Oliva lost to Baki, while Pickle won.
Obviously tho Baki beats Pickle Low diff with techniques
@@Blue_Battalion Pickle has the higher natural resistence but Oliva probably is stronger to lift, crush and with techniques would have the advantage.
Wasn't oliva's ball technique countered already by baki?
@@canofpepsicola3031 no, Baki got knocked out by it. Then released his demon back for the final clash of fists
@@mysteriousweebwrong baki countered it the second time by sticking his fingers in oliva's nostrils
Jack is physically way stronger than baki. If he got demon back 😂 than his strikes will shake yujiro hanma himself.