The Optimal Pokemon Play Order
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I think you should play black and white 2 after BW because it demonstrates how a game can successfully create a sequel and see how things change in the world.
I would argue the johto games are direct sequels to the kanto games and demonstrate what BW2 does on a larger scale.
but unova is a new region and its sequel is good too@@ItzJhon
@@ItzJhonare you kidding
B2W2 have a larger post game than even hgss, you have the battle tree, the pwt, the ACTUAL post game story (no a second half baked region doesn't really count as a full second region), and all this on top of the superior main game?
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Not just this but you actually see what real characters were up to during the time skip, which Kanto doesn't have
The second region does more to hurt what could've been a perfect region than it ever did to help it
Real gen 5 fans prefer BW over B2W2.
Order:
FireRed, LeafGreen (2004)
Emerald (2004)
Platinum (2007)
HeartGold, SoulSilver (2008)
Black, White (2010)
X, Y (2013)
Sun, Moon (2016)
Sword, Shield (2019)
Scarlet, Violet (2023?)
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I'm sorry but before or after platinum should have diamond/Pearl, idk how this was skipped over.....
@@silentgaming7213 me neither
@@silentgaming7213cause it's ass
@@ResetOnUA-camshould have chosen UltraSun and UltraMoon for Alola
Wildly triggered when he said to skip B2W2
But this is a fun video good job!
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My Join Avenue fellas aren't gonna be very happy with me 😅
Tbh, USUM is the real Alola experience, because the game is about the Alola's backstory, the origins of totems, z-moves, trials, the aftermath of this backstory, and everyone trying to deal with it.
It also just has much more going for it than Sun and Moon and is otherwise not so different.
(Gonna repost it here as well just in case ya dont see the previous post)
(To be fair tho, You are right that they arent that much different and I dont think there would be any real harm if you played USUM instead)
Honestly a really good question. I wanted to talk about that!
I bounced around putting US/UM over SU/MO but decided with the latter for one reason in particular.
While USUM is objectively better because of things like Ultra Necrozma and Ultra Warp Ride,
the way it disrupts the story makes me side with SU/MO as the more faithful Alola experience.
90% of the plot in USUM is the exact same but then removes the lusamine finale (which the plot is intended to build toward) and replaces it with an out of place (albeit better) Necrozma finale. (Basically the same reason I chose B/W over B2W2 but on a smaller scale).
Also I think the ultra necrozma stuff fits better if you played through SU/MO because you would have context to what is being replaced.
TL;DR USUM's story feels like a "true ending" while SU/MO's feels more like the normal intended route. It doesn't make sense to play the true ending before the normal one.
Here is the thing:
For the Story I would recommend S/M. Then some scenes in USUM doesn't add up while they're only improtant for S/M and they didn't cut it or altered it to fit in the story for USUM.
For the Gaming-Experience I would recommend USUM. They added many features in this game like Mantax-Surfing and because of the Sidequests, USUM became (in my opinion) one of the liveliest pokemon games ever.
When playing Pokémon Emerald, note that the version started the overworld Ability effects gameplay. Route 102 is where you can get Ralts that may have Synchro. If it has any neutral Nature (Shy, Docile, Hard Working, Quirky, or Serious), it is a great Pokémon to have you encounter wild Pokémon with a good starting Nature 1/2 of the time.
Facts
Imagine legends arceus being your first Pokémon game. It warps the entire experience and everything feels way too outdated after that lol
I cant imagine how lost someone would feel going from legends arceus to any other mainline game. Its the reason I really wanted to keep the optimal order also in release order.
Legends of Arceus was the biggest price of dog shit the only saving grace of that game is Hisuian Samurott
@@sovereignblastoise6767I didn’t like arceus either. Shining pearl was my favourite
44 year old grizzled old guy here. This is me. I was in college when Pokemon came out and missed out on all of it. Recently started playing and started with Arceus. At the time, it was the newest game.
I don't know if this was intentional or not, but another cool thing about your optimal play order is that is that it follows the in-universe chronology. Hoenn's story happens at the same time as Kanto's, Sinnoh's story happens at the same time as Johto's, and then the chronology of Gens 5 and beyond is the same as the release order (except that B2W2 and XY happen at the same time).
theoretically you could swap HGSS and platinum just so that dialogue about the red gyarados makes a lil more sense xD
How do you know Hoenn and Kanto are at the same time? Have I missed something before.
I love how this is exactly the order of how I was introduced to the series (for the earlier gens at least): FireRed>Emerald>Platinum>SoulSilver.
It does show the progression of the series' gameplay and introduce you to the Pokémon and regions past Kanto very well.
And if that's not enough, I introduced my little sister to the games in the same order, and she became a fan too.
So yeah, pretty spot on.
Anyone that has a quagsire profile pic definitely knows whats up 😤💯
Hey @ItzJhon! Really appreciate the video. I did read recently that fire red and leaf green were great places to start and glad you advised the same. I played the original Red when it came out new and wanted something to play with my daughter to give her the Gen 1 experience but better. We’ve already clocked 15 hours and we’re both really into it! We are also watching the original anime at the same time which I highly recommend to anyone to experience between play sessions of the game. Nice narrative to add to the game but it’s also like a guide too.
Wanted to thank you for the great video as I was thinking about what we might play next and I think your video nailed it.
This comment literally made my day :). I'm glad I was able to help and hope you guys enjoy ^_^.
I hope one day I'll be able to do the same thing with my future kids : D
(watching the original anime too was a good call 👍)
I personally hated it when they only had gen 5 pokemon in black and white but now I know the mons I love it. But I did think some gen 5 mons were strange
Some gen 5 mons looked like they were just there to fill a niche that other pokemon would've filled if they were in the region. It leads to a lot of forgettable and redundant pokemon.
That said, when the designs were good they were good. Just wish they really opened the floodgates to old pokemon in the post game.
@@AGTxASSASSIN To be fair (after a quick google search) almost no route after the Elite 4 has more than 1-2 Unova Pokémon, being almost exclusively gen 1-4 mons, yes they could have had more, but it isn't exactly easy to chuck 400-ish Pokémon into less than 20 locations
@@AGTxASSASSINbetter than shoving Geodude and Zubat into every region with no alternative.
@@josephbulkin9222 i mean they just made two pokemon that were "totally not zubat" and "totally not geodude".
I like the sentiment of having all new pokemon. But in execution they just copied gen 1's homework and now instead of zubat we get knock-off zubat. They should've gone a more original direction with a lot of the designs rather than just try to fill the exact same niches that already existed.
@@AGTxASSASSIN It' just feels weird to get into a new region only to be told there are barely any new pokemon to choose from, and you have to choose the old ones to have a decent team.
The first order was basically how I played pokemon. Started with LeafGreen, played emerald, then Platinum, SoulSilver, Black, Black 2, X, AlphaSaphire, Moon, Ultra Moon and so on.
Bro same
Colosseum before BW and XD before B2W2. Full order is:
Legends Arceus
Legends Z-A [When it releases that is]
FRLG
Emerald
HGSS (Johto occurs before Sinnoh)
Platinum
Black & White/ Colosseum
Gale Of Darkness
B2W2
XY
SM
Galar + DLC
Paldea Prologue ---> The Teal Mask
Scarlet/ Violet Main Story
Indigo Disk
My opinion on the Timeline Order. I'm not hearing the "Orre isn't canon" argument. But, I never played Galar, so my timeline is:
Legends Arceus [Rei's Story; Rei is the Boy's name in Legends Arceus, so I used that.]
LeafGreen
Emerald
HeartGold
Platinum
Colosseum/ White
White 2
X
Sun
Violet Main
Violet Teal Mask
Violet Indigo Disk
But, my very first game was Diamond on DS. However, this is the timeline I built from my adventures. The timeline just isn't in order of completion, just where I'm placing them. From LeafGreen onward, the trainer name is LuxrayBlast. Because I want it to be the story of my character's adventures.
anyone who respects colosseum and XD is a friend of mine👍
@@ItzJhon Really? Thanks. I actually used my Pokémon Colosseum Team for the Indigo Disk Story in Violet.
Plus, in B2W2, there's a character in Castelia City who has plans to make a device to allow Pokémon & people to communicate. Dr. Kaminko just so happened to attempt that in XD, he failed. So, there's a small connection between XD & B2W2 that *somewhat* canonizes those games, even if Kaminko isn't name dropped or referenced directly.
@@ItzJhon Also, I will say this: At the end of Kieran's Indigo Disk Battle in Violet, the two Pokémon left standing against his Hydrapple were the two Pokémon who literally STARTED my Pokémon Colosseum playthrough: Myriga the Espeon & Dyguino the Umbreon. My Colosseum Team's Adventure ended with the two who began the adventure in the first place. They won their first battle together and their final battle together. If the idea of the same Espeon & Umbreon who fought countless double battles to stop Evice, being the ones ending Kieran's Reign as BB League Champion isn't poetic, I don't know what is. But, Myriga, Dyguino, Lanayru (Ampharos), Ostyrix (Quagsire), Citadark (Typhlosion) & Nyxorius (Flygon) were double battle Veterans. Also, It may have taken 3 years to finish Colosseum & XD, but, during my 2023 Pokémon gaming until the release of The Indigo Disk marathon, I can say that I am pretty Pokémon'd out. My most recent completed adventure was Crystal. Colosseum, Emerald, XD, Platinum, White, White 2 Challenge Mode, Crystal, Violet, Diamond, Brilliant Diamond, Black 2 & 3 runs of Legends Arceus within 4 years of each other is ALOT of Pokémon. I only plan to play up to Lance in GS.
I think the optimal play order if we had to do just four games would be 1.Emerald You get the flavor of the first three generations, the best Pokémon variety along with being the best game boy era game. While fire red does cover the first generation I think that putting nostalgia aside fire red is a much weaker product and a lot harder for new players too traverse then emerald. And the rest of the Gameboy era games feel really dated. 2. Black two and white two this covers the DS era It’s the most streamlined and best Pokémon variety version of the DS games. A pretty decent bump up in graphics. Well, you can make an argument for platinum.I just think the incredible Pokédex from GEN five really enhances these games over the rest of the DS era. And I think that HG and SS are incredibly slow long games with a weird level curves with fairly limited Pokédex. And I think it’s gonna be jarring jumping from GEN three to GEN five if you’ve picked black-and-white one because the Pokédex are going to be so different to wear black to white to have a good mix of new Pokémon to returning ones. 3. Ultra games, these are arguably the hardest games in the franchise and they’re very different from the rest. They have a large Pokédex and a great showcase of boss fights in Pokémon and just a straight upgrade of their original games. It is the best iteration of the team EXP on the 3DS. As well as these games probably have the best showcase of the new fairy type of all the 3DS games as well. You even get that mega evolution aspect from GEN six as well.And lastly, 4.Scarlet and Violet, these also have a very different feel from the rest of the games and they’re the most modern ones too. you get that open world feel similar to generation one but you get to experience the openness with all the roaming Pokémon like with sword and legends Areceus.
Well, it sucks having to leave out generations 1246 and 8. I think doing 3579s best representatives shows a big enough jump between generations to where you’re really gonna feel the quality of life improvements. Starting in generation three you have abilities held items nature, the modern version of EVI and ivs and much better move pools so it’s a good starting point to where you have a lot of modern mechanics at the very beginning of your first experience. Then Going from GEN 3 to 5 you see the physical special split really come into play as well as unlimited use TM’s drastic increase in the amount of Pokémon as well as the seasonal changes with weather and such. Then jumping from GEN 5 to 7 you get the 3-D graphics as well as the new fairy type mega evolutions and totem Pokémon, and Z moves and Universal EXP, and the lack of HM Pokémon needed and even your moves being told if they’re super effective or not. I think this is one of the biggest jumps between any set of games, all these quality of life improvements make the games a lot more convenient. And lastly, going from G7 to GEN nine the actual physical gameplay a lot different the traversal the tera type feature. Raid battling. Being on Nintendo switch being upgrading graphics over the 3DS. A lot more accessibility to Pokémon moves, relearning them changing them around no needing of heart scales or move learner. a lot of TMs are available at the start of the game so bad Pokémon with poor level up move sets not really be as much of a problem to use. Not to mention the colossal amount of par variety you get in these games. On top of all the Pokémon in the DLCs.
For someone brand new to Pokémon, they’re very first experience and they wanted to play all games the order I would recommend would be.
1.Let’s go games. These are very simple Pokémon games and would ease you into the formula. Not to mention that it’s generation one remake. if you want more traditional experience, pick fire, red or leaf green, but that’s completely optional.
2. Emerald. This would be your first experience in a real mainline Pokémon game. And that way you’re not just going straight from Kanto to Joto it’ll make playing HG and Ss more memorable after playing a change of pace between the games. Not to mention playing Emerald third would be kind of weird jumping from the DS back to the gameboy.
3.HgSS This is your first introduction to a bunch of the new modern feeling mechanics and you get the nostalgia of going back to Kanto at the end of these games I think playing it after emerald instead of before makes emerald feel a lot better. On top of making visiting kanto again more special.
4. Platinum this is the definitive version of these games and the remakes on the switch are not good. One of the best Pokémon games easily, and it fixes a lot of the problems with diamond and pearl.
5. Black and white one This will be very different experience from the rest of the games you’ve played with the whole new unique Pokédex.
6. Pokémon x and y I know it’s a weird putting these before black two and white too, but I think playing two games in a row that are very similar is going to be kind of weird. I think mixing in x and y show you how bad this generation of games is and how good black and white two is.
7. B2W2 going back to experience the second half of Unova again will show how good of a sequel this game is. Not to mention after playing x and y it’ll make you appreciate this game more for how good it really was.
8. The ultra games. I think you can skip over the first versions. There’s a few different totem fights, and the elite four is different. Basically everything else is an upgrade. Not to mention watching the cut scenes multiple times if you had to play the originals and then the ultras would be very tedious.
10. Sword and shield this is much more traditional than the ultra games. This is arguably the most replayable Pokémon game there’s a huge variety of Pokémon in the wild area and the DLC’s at a bunch more that you can use on a play through.
11.Legends Arceus. This is the only non-main game. I’m gonna recommend on my list. It gets you familiar with the whole riding mechanic, and the Pokémon being in the overworld even more than sword and shield. As much as I wasn’t that much a fan of these games it’s hard not to recommend them because it’s a great change of pace.
12. Scarlet and Violet would be the games I would play last. I mean they’re the most recent game so it’s hard to put them anywhere else but here. You either end with these games or you start with them, but this is not a great game to introduce you to the Pokémon formula since it’s so different from the rest.
Sorry for bad grammar I’m on my phone so it’s hard to proofread very well .
Very interesting and thorough list! :o
I think this is a great way to play if backtracking isn't an issue.
I do like the inclusion of legends arceus quite a bit. I tried to fit it in mine but its just so different from the rest.
I'd still consider Arceus mainline. I think since it's 1. Developed by Game Freak, and 2. Introduces new Pokemon, it kinda has to.
Agree heavily with this order though!
I didn't start playing pokemon until Sword and Shield, and continued from there. I went from Sword, to Violet, to Yellow, and now I just started Crystal
Crystal was my very first game : D
How does it feel going from the recent ones back to yellow?
i started my pokemon journey recently and am planning on going in order of generation using the remakes of the classic games
I think fundamentally, if this is a new player we are talking about, then it's better to focus on Pokemon introduction rather than Mechanics.
My order would be:
FireRed/ LeafGreen
HeartGold/ SoulSilver
Ruby/ Sapphire
Diamond/ Pearl
Black/ White
X/ Y
Skip SunMoonUsUm/ Sword Shield, because they're kind of boring, and finally end on Scarlet (I think Scarlet is better because the idea of Pokemon coming from the past makes more sense than coming from the future). The friend can play skipped games like Platinum, B2W2, SunMoon afterward if they really enjoy the series.
HGSS doesn't really have any Gen 3/ 4 Pokemon in it, because none of the Gen 4 evolutions are obtainable in this game until Postgame. So I think it's best in this order because it introduces Gen 1 Pokemon, then Gen 2 Pokemon, then 3, 4... while also having Pokemon they will recognize from previous games (HGSS has Kanto Pokemon, then RSE has some too, then Gen 4 has Pokemon from Gen 3, 2, 1...) it would be weird to play Sapphire, find a Marill/ Skarmory, and now your friend will always think it is a Gen 3 Pokemon.
Also, I don't think it's correct to choose Platinum or Emerald over RubySapphire/DiamondPearl, for a few reasons.
1. Picking which version we would buy was a core experience of being a child who grew up on these games. Let the friend have a choice, too.
2. Pokemon diversity. Emerald and Platinum added a lot of Pokemon from OTHER regions, and do not focus enough on Pokemon from their OWN region. If this is a new player, it's better to play RS/DP where the encounter rates for NEW Pokemon from the region are higher.
3. Too much side content - For example, Emerald has the Battle Frontier, which is so much content that the friend should not get caught up in. Also, Emerald makes you fight both evil teams separately, which is long and tedious but also ruins the story in my opinion. Also the Distortion World is cool but also a bit much, and I think it was cooler to find Giratina in Turnback Cave, because he felt like a forgotten Pokemon, or like some evil banished entity that isn't supposed to be found.
4. Wallace. Let's face it, the definitive Gen 3 experience needs to end with Steven. And not have Juan as the 8th Gym and then another Water Type trainer.
That's how I see it at least!
I honestly agree with a lot of ur takes here. gen 7 and 8 are by far the low points of the franchise. Scarlet makes way more sense in the context of the game (why is a robot eating sandwiches). I also really like the idea of picking which of the 2 versions to go with. It is a core experience every player has. (also saves a lot of money if ur buying the cartridges).
However, I still suggest playing gens 7 and 8. The goal of the list is to give someone a complete view of the franchise, which also means playing the bad ones.
@@ItzJhon If they enjoy the franchise then I think they could revisit 7 and 8 afterward, but after playing through gen 1-6, I think they would be eager to hop into the current Pokemon game! While it's still "current".
Playing through all these games takes a lot of time and I think just to get them caught up, skipping some of the bad ones would help.
At the same time, playing Sword and Shield would definitely show them why people have been disappointed with the latest games, and that's for sure an important part of being a Pokemon fan as well!
I think you should do 1. FireRed. 2. HeartGold. 3. Emerald. 4. Platinum. 5. Black&White 1 and 2. 6. X&Y 7. Ultra sun&moon. 8. Sword and shield. 9. *shudders* scarlet&violet.
For the light one my order would be fire red, leaf green, platinum, omega Ruby, alpha sapphire, Ultra Sun, Ultra Moon and finally Scarlet and Violet
I've been a hardcore fan since 2010, and I've played almost every game released since and before that year. A couple of months ago, I told my gf to choose one game to begin her first-ever Pokémon journey, and she chose Legends Arceus. Without held items, without worrying about IVs or EVs, without breeding, with easy evoultion methods (for Pokémon that would evolve only by trading), and with one of the smallest Pokédexes in the series, I think that game was a good choice. Later on, when she decides to play another game, it'll be easier for her just to incorporate the other mechanics, knowing the basics from PLA.
@@oscarandriel legends arceus is a great game, easily one of the best in recent memory! I tried really hard to fit it into the video but I had to leave it out for the sole reason that it dosent really represent any of the generations.
Regardless, I hope you guys have fun! ^_^
I feel like starting with gen 1 and 2 ain’t a bad way to start just so you understand what the series was intended to be
gens 1 and 2 definitely have a vibe to them that you cant really experience without playing them.
Randomly was suggested this video in my algorithm. I didn’t realize you were a small creator until I finished the video.
You did an awesome job! I’ll give ya a sub!
Its comments like these I always dreamt of getting. Thank you friendo! :D
@@ItzJhon keep going!!!
@@Kyunoo44 ill make ya proud 💯😤
This is really cool (tho you probably shoulda added legands arceus) I like doing these types of things as well but challenge myself to include as many games as possible. Obviously this wouldn't be a good choice for a newcomer so good job👍
I tried really hard to fit legends arceus in. (I really enjoyed that game)
But its so different from everything else and basically requires you to have played a gen 4 game to truly appreciate.
I think this was very well well thought out. The Lite version is more how I’m going through with my bf for his time but swapping “Pokémon: Let’s Go, Pikachu!” for FRLG because he’s not much of a gamer and Pokémon Go was is first experience with the franchise.
pretty good swap tbh : D
Lets go is super beginner friendly and waaaay more available than FRLG.
I was honestly just looking for a way to experience the most Pokémon regions, without needing to buy too many consoles. So far, I’m convinced I only need a DS lite and a Nintendo switch to play 7/9 regions. Not having a 3DS might keep kalos and alola unavailable, but there will most likely be remakes of them for the switch in the future.
Emerald, Crystal, HGSS, Pt, BW, B2W2, ORAS. End it there because nothing else compares. Peak story was Gen V
Why crystal? Seems redundant before hgss. And why after emerald and not before?
I like the gen 3 sandwich though with oras at the end.
Give Sun and Moon its due, that story was top tier as well. Gen 7 is the only one I would put on the same tier as Gen 5
@@drm726 i could not have a more opposite opinion than that one
That’s the order I played them in growing up minus crystal lol
@@AGTxASSASSIN mad cuz bad
Black and white 2 were legit one the best games. A blunder to skip them
yes and no.
Bw2 are easily some of the best games in the franchise, however if you removed any of the other games in the list in favor of bw2, youd be missing out on more than if you just skip em
@@ItzJhonnah that was genuinely a horrible decision ngl there’s no defending skipping it
Definitely get rid of Sun & Moon & Add Ultra Sun & Ultra moon. They are way more completed & more updated as it’s the same game with a basically a free DLC.
That would be the way to go if you don’t care about the story during your first play through, otherwise SM should take priority since the story is much better than USUM’s version of it
Best recommendation list I have found. Thanks.
@@Edriella Thank you! :,)
Nothin but the best for you guys ^_^
legends arceus definitely replaces the scarlet and violet pick
Bit strange including legends arceus in this exercise though, it isn't exactly a core game.
@@AGTxASSASSIN remakes aren't "core" games either, neither are 3rd versions or sequels, all of them can still do the best job in showcasing an era, generation, Pokedex and region of pokemon
@@greenhillnerdnew8148 remakes are just that - "remakes" of past games. They play exactly the same with some extra features and nicer visuals.
Legends arceus has completely different gameplay to the main series. It isn't an insult, legends is great, but it doesn't really represent the series.
@@AGTxASSASSIN for the purposes of this video, remakes ARENT just past games, their updated mechanics,rosters, design and visual sensibilities tell the stories of both the generation they are reworking, and the generation they were made in, the same way legends would.
I'm not contesting that legends Arceus is more separated from diamond and pearl than platinum or even bdsp, it obviously is.
I'm making the case that said distance isnt a relevant factor for the purposes of this video, the same way it wasn't for the third versions and remakes.
@@greenhillnerdnew8148 I would argue that Legends Arceus doesn't tell the tale of either the gen it references or the gen it was made in. The main game in Legends' generation plays nothing like legends, and while legends obviously draws its theming and references from gen 4, it is hardly a retelling of gen 4.
Legends Arceus is a separate entity that draws from diamond and pearl, not replaces it.
I would say for this video, remakes ARE nicer versions of the original in the optimal play order. Maybe you can make that argument for the 'lite' version, but even then legends arceus certainly wouldn't do a good job of showcasing either gen as it plays nothing like either and only resembles one of them.
i skipped sun and went directly to ultra sun
This is actually a great order to play the original games and also useful for Pokemon MMOs like PokeMMO in terms of casual playing the storylines.
Funny you mention PokeMMO.
Ive been playing since 2012 and made one of the first trailers for it 😤
@@ItzJhonyou made the first trailers?? That's cool because your trailers pretty much convinced me to play Pokemmo
Thank You! I am new to the community and I dont know where to start.
love the pfp btw
My first pokémon game was pokémon sun when it first came out, but i never finished the game. I lost interest for a few years before coming back to pokemon with Sapphire & Pokemon Moon.
sapphire was one of the first pokemon games I played ^_^. Hope ya enjoy it!
Before watching, my order is just Firered/Leafgreen (gen 1) then R/S/E (gen 3 happening at same time), then Gen 4 - HG/SS (Gen 2) then DPPt (gen 4 happening at same time as gen 2), then Gen 5.
That has gen 1-5 in Chronological order.
Then XY onwards just do whatever, they kinda threw out any sort of sequential story telling
As an avid Gen 5 fan, the take on Gen 5 is enough to earn my like. As much of a masterpiece BW2 are, with all their great additions - auto-repel resetting, Join Avenue, Pokéstar Studios, etc. - it isn't quite Unova as intended. Yes you don't get to play your favourite Pokémon for the story (for 95% of people), but it was a nice change to not see Zubat, Geodude, Pikachu and a ton of other mons you see in every game since their introduction
Basically got it spot on! :o.
Also I'm glad I'm not the only one that shares the sentiment that Black and White are the REAL Unova experience : D
6:34 - 7:00 i disagree. I've played in this order
Emerald > SwSh > Legends Arceus > Platinum > FRLG > XY > ORAS > BW1 > BW2
And loved all of them, except the latest XY (it was too easy). I felt like some old games are better than the newer ones. Also I played BW2 right after BW1 and i wasn't bored at at all. The starting area is entirely different till castelia city. And by far, BW2 is my favourite pokemon game and the only game where i beat the post game.
Its definitely doable just like in ur case.
I would highly recommend hgss tho. Especially if you like post games ;)
@@ItzJhon yeah, that's definitely next on my list of games to play!
Personally I'd say play in release order. Red and Blue have aged very well, and they're comparable to modern games in everything aside from graphics.
First 2 gens dont get enough credit
Gen 2 especially. Those games have such a vibe
Because the remakes are regarded as direct upgrades to the originals to most
Nah mate, my order would be
1 Xy (2nd cause at least from my view, although a lot of people might deny it, it has quite a lot of memorable places and soundtracks, that, the graphics and the fact that it still feels like Pokémon and has its magic can make an astonishing impression in a new player, and the fact that is easier can make it easier to digest for new players)
2 ORAS (to finish with megas)
3HG/SS (cause there’s no case in playing gen 1 if this games have them, innit? Also here is where difficulty curve starts rising)
4 platinum (great sequel to gen 3)
5 bw2 (great sequel to gen 4
And so on i don’t care since I haven’t played the rest of the games (I don’t have a switch D: ) so I have no place to speak
P.s. gen 7 was pretty mid, definitely skippable as I don’t remember a bloody thing about other than zmoves, and well, the surface and basic things that by default come to mind, but deeper in game, I don’t remember shit
You're right in saying Hoenn has the best selection of pokemon. A ton of my favorite mons come from that region, and it also has my favorite legendaries.
Nothin but facts
Also 10/10 pfp 💯
@@ItzJhon hehe thanks!
Great order, I would add some games with side comments: Play bw2 after bw if you really enjoyed bw. If you liked Emerald, play ORAS after xy. Adding these as extras gives space for an optional better experience. Bw2 are straight up upgrades from bw so if you enjoyed those games, bw2 will enhance the gen 5 experience. If you liked gen 3, playing trough it in gen 6 is also a great extra experience. Even though for me Emerald is the best gen 3 experience, the extras and gen 6 megas really make it a great extra experience. It all depends on the time you got (lets be real here, no one is really 'buying' the older games if they have never played Pokemon before). So adding those as extras in addition to the 5 games only route gives a lot of diversity in the time you want/have to spend. Legends is also a nice honorable mention to experience something new after all the classic gameplay games.
100% agree!
I may be biased but, I think if you enjoyed any pokemon game, you should try out XD & Colosseum.
Easily the most slept on games in the entire franchise.
This dude just straight up ditched the best pokémon game 💀
Whatcha mean? I got HGSS and emerald on there :)
@@ItzJhon Actually, in my heart, Emerald is the best pokémon game, but technically I think B2W2 is the best one (HGSS is top 3)
B2W2 are just good imo
Overall well made but it's extremely forgettable. It's one of the only games in the franchise where if someone asked me to describe the story, battles and locations I wouldn't be able to describe a majority of it
Follow-up video discussing how to transfer Pokemon from previously played games within the optimum order! 🙌 🔥 💯
Your just reminded me I forgot to include one of the big reasons behind both orders. 😅
I was supposed to mention that playing these games in this order,
lets you transfer them as you progress through em, all the way to pokemon home.
1:FRLG 2: Emerald 3:HGSS 4:Platinum 5: Black & White 6: X&Y 7: Oras 8:USUM 9: Sword & Shield 10: Scarlet & Violet.
(Note: it may be a controversial opinion to skip the original sun and moon, but usum it’s so much better in all aspects.)
Good order but too many games for a beginner, gotta trim some that are just alright
Valid order👍
I dont think there would be much harm for playing USUM over SU/MO. I just see them in a similar vain to BW and B2W2 on a smaller scale
@@AGTxASSASSIN I see this is kind of like the ultimate list
Replace FRLG with Dark Violet (GBA Romhack) for a better story connection with HGSS
@@ItzJhon It may be bcuz of bias but I personally like them better because they don’t stray too far story wise until the end
I personally LOVED that you skipped over Silver/Gold/Crystal. They are long and have a lot to do story wise, but they are very limited in terms of what pokemon you use that are different than red/green, waiting to do it until later is very smart on that alone, then it's heart and soul to make it even better.
Personally, I feel BW2 need to be played due to it being a direct sequel to BW, and it’s absolutely brilliant seeing how the characters have developed in the 2 years. Also I’d suggest playing HGSS everytime after FRLG due to the fact that once again it’s a sequel and then go back the Emerald then Platinum. Also USUM over SM because they are basically just expanded versions
The only thing about playing hgss before emerald is that when you go back to emerald, there's gonna be some quality of life stuff that you got used to that is now missing.
Bro didn't even take a minute to spit facts
@@agustintrivino9365 nothin but the best for my fellas 😤💯💯💯
Gen 3 gba games Emerald and leaf green are my favorites..you got like 384 pokemons
@@Metalex_Delarocha Thats cuz generation 3 is the best 😤💯
playing these on my modded dsi, thanks for the list 😁🙏🏽
Nothin but the best content for my fellas 💯😤
I agree with everything except the black and white discrepancy. There is no reason to play BW when BW2 exists. I think you're misrembering how many changes BW2 made.
I agree bw2 is way better, but i think the point he makes in the video is that the original bw are the more "gen 5" experience. If you want someone to experience the whole series i guess you would want them to experience gen 5 as originally envisioned rather than bw2 which watered that down a bit.
Yeah 2 series was good but the original had a better story and that og 5th gen experience. 2 did add alot but there was already a good amount of content on the first games.
So many Unova Pokemon arent even available in BW2 until after the Pokemon League(Seismitoad, Durant)
Bw 2 makes you do the stupid pokestar studio in order to progress
@@trapez77 true but that doesn’t take that long and isn’t too intruding it’s fairly quick. I like at least for black 2 how they have that trainer tower post game it’s good for leveling. Almost as good as firered and leafgreen but those two probably have the best way of grinding since it doesn’t scale at high levels like black and white do
I’d say play HGSS before Platinum because platinum starts with the red Gyarados report on TV making it a nice callback. Also I’d add in B2W2 and UsUm instead of SuMo.
all valid changes!
Was I the only one who expected him to give an order for all 37 games or at least include the remakes, too? xD But still a good video!
I can if ya want ¬‿¬
also anyone who uses xD is a friend of mine
my personal plan to replay through all gens is:
FireRed -> Emerald -> Platinum -> HeartGold -> White 1 -> White 2 -> Y -> Omega Ruby -> Ultra Sun -> Let’s Go Eevee -> Shield -> Shining Pearl -> Legends: Arceus -> Scarlet
The Perfect Playthrough 👍
If you're a kid, you probably just have a Switch so I'd stick to just those games.
Scarlet/Violet if you only want to play one game, BD/SP if you want a classic Pokemon game.
There's also Legends and S/S if you still want more.
For the money, it's just not worth going back.
Like the old Disney vault, things worth being re-released, will be.
while I agree, playing the old games physically will cost ya an arm and a leg,
idk if I agree with the last part.
There's a reason those games keep getting exponentially more expensive.
They are 100% worth being being played and re-released, pokemon just dosent care to.
B2w2 are a must after playing bw, literally a direct sequel...
The Johto games are more of a sequel to the kanto games than black2/white2 are to black and white
May I suggest not skipping B2W2 and skipping XY instead (if you really want to keep the game count at a minimum)? Sun and Moon would have a bigger wow factor for the first step into 3d, does include megas so people won’t miss out on this mechanic (even if they should because this is a very bad mechanic), have better controls, keeps the idea of reinventing the franchise gen 5 started (when gen 6 was a pretty huge step back in that regard)… Also, gen 7 (by gen 7, I obviously mean USUM) have a fusion mechanic the same way B2W2 had, Colres appears in that game too. Really, gen 7 just feels like a better successor to gen 5 and having any game between these two would just kill the flow.
interesting take. While I do think x and y are far from perfect, they are currently the only way to experience kalos and the "6th Generation" of pokemon. Removing them would go against one of the core purposes of the list by missing out on a whole gen. Black 2 and White 2 are amazing games but they are just MORE of black and white. You'd be missing out on more by dropping x and y for them.
I do think its quite cute that gen 5 and 7 (being based off America and Hawaii) have a lot of cute little connections. :)
I’ve played black and white as well as black and white 2 and tbh black and white 2 were the way more fun unova experience so I would recommend playing it right after black or white
Plus there’s also just way more to do and access so that’s already more of a reason to play it
I recommend bw2 instead of bw. Better game, better experience. Playing both would be pretty long and redundant tbh.
I'll suggest to switch up Sun and Moon with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon
@@YaminSarwar valid
the true optimal play order is just playing crystal
🤝 It was my first game for a reason
I agree for the most part, but why not play Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon instead of the first games? They're much better and they added a lot of memorable stuff!
Good question. I went into detail in another comment but the short version is,
the plot of usum feels like an alternate telling of the alola story while su/mo feels like the intended plot
@@ItzJhon I guess that makes sense, I haven't played the original SM so I wouldn't know. I just feel that USUM are more complete and tie together the whole Alola arc.
More or less agree with everything in this video. Though personally I like the experience have playing each gen’s original games and slowly gaining those quality of life features.
The best way to play tbh
Between every 2 games together i should choose one right as its same story?
Yup!
Fire Red / Soul Silver / Platinum / BW / XY / Alpha Sapphire / Moon / Sword
BW2 were way too similar to BW, let’s go games don’t count, and scarlet/violet are unplayable garbage so everyone can safely skip them.
I can respect this list (especially the bw2 skip).
@@ItzJhon great video!
@@OmniarchOfficial thank you! :D
Fire Red/Leaf Green, Emerald, Platinum, HG/SS, B&W, B&W2, X&Y (debatable), Sun/Moon, US/UM, Legends Arceus, & if u reallllly need more Pokemon in ur life then go back & play Yellow, skip the rest of the switch games unless u want to play them all. I like the idea of this list but I just don’t c how Emerald & Platinum r less essential than Sword/Shield & Scarlet/Violet
I have all the pokemon games except legends arceus. I used to have it but got bored of it and gave it to my cousin for his birthday. Anyways I’m probably gonna replay all the games in this order as I’m due to do fresh runs of all the regions
You should nuzlocke em this time around >:)
Came in hope to find a game that I haven't played
But there is non 😢
My personal order:
1) Firered/Leafgreen or Red/Blue Color romhack with 2 gen sprites
2) Gold/Silver/Crystal or Polished Crystal/Crystal Clear Romhacks
3) Emerald or ORAS
4) Hearthgold/Soulsilver or Sacret Gold/StormSilver romhacks
5)Platinum or Renegade Platinum romhack
6) Black/White or Blaze Black/Volt White romhacks
7) Black/White 2 or Blaze Black/Volt White 2 romhacks
8) Unbound romhack
9) Good gen 2 romhacks (Prism, Orange) and good gen 3 romhacks (∞)
The addition of some romhacks definitely spices things up 👀👀 whats ur fave one?
I’m playing ultra violet right now which one should I go to next? I was planning on emerald next
if ya mean ultra moon, sword and shield would be next chronologically. If you want to stay on the 3ds, Omega ruby and alpha sapphire are essentially 3d remakes of emerald.
if ya mean violet, starting over at emerald (which is probably my favorite mainline game) and then following the order in the video wouldn't be a bad option.
@@ItzJhon ultra violet is I think a fire red nd leaf green rom im playing on delta
@@Carnage209ws_ OHHHHH
Emerald would deffo be the next best thing then
Great list but maybe would skip Black and White and go right to Black 2 and White 2 instead and same with Sun and Moon going to Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. I would also add Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire as I really love those games. I would definitely skip Sword and Shield completely and finish with Scarlet and Violet.
What is the best play order to catch them all and transfer to Pokémon HOME?
I had that exact thing in mind when creating these lists!
The first play order outlined in this video is perfect for that situation as it basically takes you chronologically through the series.
This allows you to not only transfer all your pokemon eventually to home, but also lets you transfer your pokemon to each game as you play through them.
The tricky part is the hardware. You would need to have:
1x DS/DS Lites
1x 3DS
1x Switch
Access to Pokemon Bank & Poke Transporter
Access to Pokemon Home
In addition to all the games
@@ItzJhon Thanks for sharing man! I appreciate the response! I have all the systems. Just need more games!
PEPSIMAN SPOTTED!!!!!!
I’ve never played Black or White, the day I went to target to buy them only 1 copy of B2 and W2 were available and I bought both.
I havent played a pokemon game since the orginal red all those years ago.
Gonna pick up fire red and go back in time 20 odd years 😂
This is a fun video. Thanks for sharing! This could help get new people to experience the games.
Thank ya ^_^
Lowkey sad oras and b2/w2 couldn't make the list but its understandable, even if they're some of my favorites 😢
Oras did make it into the Lite version :D
Gen 3 is easily my fave so I really do like Oras. Its just that I think emerald is the better way to play through hoenn.
(I LOOOOOOOOOOVE the final fight with ur rival that they added in ORAS)
Bw2 are some of the best in the franchise but its hard to fit in when your trying to play the least amount of games possible
3:56 Except for me, who got destroyed by her Togekiss the first time.
For me it was milotic xD
This video would have been really usefull a year ago, at the time I never played a Pokémon game, so not knowing anything i started with the First Pokémon game over, i choose Pokémon Red.
cant go wrong with the starting at the very beginning : D
I'd say the ultra lean list would be to just stick with emerald, platinum, HGSS and if you're not liking pokemon, give it one last chance with Legends Arceus. Some games like sword and shield, and the lets go ones will make you feel ripped off, gen 1 and 2 are great and all, but too glitchy and mechanics do not represent the plus side of these games, gen 5+ are great too, but pokemon peaked in gens 3 and 4.
I'm sippin that ultra lean
If you asked me,
Emerald, Platinum and HGSS are without a doubt the best games in the franchise.
Buuuuuut, In order to appreciate the good ones and get a full grasp of the franchise, I had to throw in some of the more polarizing games.
So I love Black 2/White 2. And while I was initially against you leaving it out, I slept on it and understood where you were coming from. B2/W2 introduced a lot of amazing features and while I still love these games, one thing that I wasn’t a fan of was the purposeful ambiguity of what happened to the player character from Black/White. While the development process would have probably pushed the release date back: if they took the Kyurem story from B2/W2 and put that in the post game of Black/White (heck, do a time skip of 2 years), I think it would have been better. N saving Hilbert/Hilda would have hit more because of all the previous interactions N had with them up to that point. If they did this, I think Black/White would have been the best Pokémon games of all time.
Also, if they implemented more elements of Platinum into Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl (like how they put elements of Crystal into HeartGold/SoulSilver), that would have gotten my vote into the optimal play order lite list. I’m still bummed BDSP wasn’t as good as it could’ve and should’ve been.
Having bw2 being the post game for base bw would have been so cool. While I would take bw2 anyday over base bw, it dosent give anywhere near the same gen 5 experience as black and white. With that in mind, If there were more differences between the main game, I would have prob said to play it.
As someone who started with let’s go eevee and Pokémon sword, I feel like I have a hard time playing the pre gen 6 games, even though they are considered the better games. (Just started xy and have been LOVING IT though) I tried platinum but not having exp share just messed me up. Any tips on how to work around no exp share? And couldn’t it be found as a held item in some of those games?
From gens 1-5, the exp share is a held item that you can find somewhere in the early game. In platinum, its given to you right before you enter the cycling road.
As for working around the no new exp share, the best way to combat it is using ur team differently. Unless you want to spend the time grinding out and having a full party of 6, you should focus on using only 3-4 pokemon for battling(one of them being your starter). This leaves room for the last two spots to focus on HMs needed to traverse. These older games were meant to be played at a much slower pace than the newer ones so dont be afraid to take a break if you get exhausted. If you ever find a team member really falling behind, you can always catch a stronger wild pokemon to fill that spot.
If it still just isnt resonating with you, theres definitely a romhack version of the older games that patches in stuff from the newer games like teamwide exp.
I hope that helps :)
Emerald and platinum are some of my faves in the series so I hope you enjoy em :D
I honestly don't think every generation needs representation. If anything, I would skip straight to HG/SS first and taste the games that way, especially if you've never played Pokémon before.. From there, and once you're familiar with the mechanics, I would try out Black and White to see how far the 2D games could go. I agree that they're a standalone experience, but they're also huge games with some of the best designs and mechanics.
Then I would skip to gen 9. See what the games are currently like and decide if 3D is what you're into as a new player. Remember, by now, you've played 3 full games of the same type minimum, 6 if you did both versions. It would get tiring, and by the time you've finished SV, probably quite frustrating as well. But there is a good remedy for that. B2&W2 are the best sequels that the series has ever had. Every bit as a good B&W, but remixed with some earlier gens and new puzzles to keep it fresh. It also had that neat animated trailer to go with it, with Rosa and her Serperior. Everybody loves Rosa and Hilda, and the games are so much fun!
i agree not every gen needs representation, but i think the "lite" version he presented in the video strikes the best balance for this. including ORAS gives you a taste of both gen 3 (which invented a lot of series staples) and gen 6 (which gave mega evolution and was generally a big moment for the series being the first 3d games) in one game.
BW had some of the best designs? Have you seen Klink, Vanillish, Trubbish, Heatmor, Druddigon, Alomomola, Tynamo, Palpitoad, or any of the starters, just to name a few? Generation 5 had by far the worst designs of every pokemon game (SWSH is barely behind tho), and the only thing BW have going for them is the story, which I also think is pretty stale. I personally don't know anybody who is playing a pokemon game for the story. BW is also incredibly linear and the backtracking is awful. Indisputably one of the worst games in the series.
I would definitely not skip black and white 2. Yeah the story isn't as in depth as the first. But it's just the ultimate upgrade in every other aspect. The amount of mons you have access to. The team building. The exploration and expansion of the unova region is just to good.
I'm currently on a playthrough now of white 2 and it's the most fun I've had in a long time with Pokemon
BW2 is without a doubt better than base BW. The reason why it didnt make it in is because I wanted the list to be as concise as possible and BW2 are just too similar to base BW(even with all the improvements) to justify playing through both of em.
I think having B2W2, and also having USUM instead of SM is more optimal, but good list either way
Pokemon games order to play by gen:
1. Fire red
2. Heart gold (maybe 3. or 4.)
3. Emerald // omega ruby (maybe 2. If Emerald)
4. Platinum // brilliant diamond (maybe 3. If Platinum)
5. White
6. White 2
7. Y
8. Ultra Sun
9. Lets go Pikachu
/ = Choices to make
// Great jump of hardware (not recommend)
This is the order i played these as a kid. I quit at hgss though
Sounds like you had a good childhood 💯
I started with fire red then went to emerald, i beat emerald , but i didnt finish fire red , im going to go download leaf green and give that a run through. Emerald was fun, but im super under leveled in the battle frontier so i kinda stopped playing it
platinum needs to be in the top 5.
I just got back into playing these games but already finished heartgold. I’m gonna play platinum next and then BW after but don’t know if I should just play BW2 instead. Is it worth playing them both? Is it worth playing both versions of each generation in general?
Great question!
While bw2 and bw are very similar, playing bw2 without bw is gonna make a lot of the plot (especially the team plasma stuff) feel weak. Its definitely an option, but I wouldn't recommend it.
However, in your case,
I would only play BW2 if you reallllllllllly enjoyed black and white. Otherwise, its going to feel like your playing the same game again with some minor tweaks.
While Black and white 2 are amazing games, I think its more worth your while to experience a whole new gen than to do another lap around unova.
BW2 is a great game to come back to once you've experienced what each gen has to offer.
Hope that helps : D
The only issue I have with fire red is that you can’t get mewtwo after beating the game.
yeah... it is a little annoying that you have to do some of the sevii island stuff before mewtwo. But at the end of the day, you can still catch em : D
this one assumes gen 9 is good. i believe, having not played them yet, that gens 7-9 are all bad and good pokemon ended at gen 6. here is my order
1. firered/leafgreen
2. omegaruby/alphasapphire
3. platinum(+diamond/pearl)
4. heartgold/soulsilver
5. black/white
6. red/blue
7. gold/silver/crystal
8. ruby/sapphire/emerald
9. black2/white2
10. x/y
11. sun/moon
12. legends arceus
13. sword/shield
14. scarlet/violet
15. ultrasun/ultramoon
16. letsgopikachu/letsgoeevee
17. brilliantdiamond/shiningpearl
18. yellow
in reality, 1-3 are pretty solid, but 4-10 can be in any order, and 11-15 can be in any order as well. i agree that kanto should be played first, while also familiarizing oneself with gen3's old but solid mechanics. once they know how those games work, i have no problem backtracking. i just put the gens 1 and 2 where i would expect someone to start becoming interested in the wierdness of the old generations. after all the good games are finished at 10, i put the later games so that if one is still interested in playing more pokemon games, that's when i would start playing them. finally 16-18 are games not worth playing, but if one is really interested, then there they are, after knowning the good pokemon. personally i would probably stop at 11
Idk about the logic in assuming everything after gen 6 is bad, even if you might be joking. I mean red and blue are a buggy mess surely the later games are better than that
Actually, there's so much wrong with this list I'm gonna assume you aren't at all serious
@@AGTxASSASSIN i am interested in hearing what you think is wrong with the list. look also at my more generalized list with 4-10 and 11-15 in arbitrary order. what criticisms do you have besides the one you previously posted?
@@7lllll I know you've said that 4-10 and 11-16 can be in any order, but i feel that there is such a broad range in quality within those groups that if someone who has never played the series before picks a random selection from those groups, they may have a completely different experience depending on what they pick.
@@7lllll For instance, I might advise anyone new to not bother with the pre-2000's games entirely because there are just objectively better ways to play those regions today.
Nice lists, and well argued. But 1 want to suggest 2 changes:
First, don't play SoulSilver. I dislike how the game forces the legendary encounter. Play HeartGold instead, as the Ho-oh encounter feels more natural than Lugia. And do it with the Pokéwalker.
Second, I firmly believe every Pokéfan should play Gen. 1. Not first, sure, but eventually. The reason is because of how different it is. The current franchise has felt largely stagnent gameplay-wise since Gen. 4, with Legends: Arceus being the only true break from the gameplay formula.
i wouldnt reccomend jumping from new to old because the old exp share is a pain and after you got used to the superior shared exp share and no hm's you will HATE the old pokemon games. the best to start IMO is BDSP because its a combination of old and new
agreed 🤝
I would start in kanto and go to the newest 3
for mw person fire red/leafgreen,hg/ss ,emerald/oras are best
me
you are very correct
b/w2 is much better then anything after it
while I love scarlet and violet, I can agree on that. (legends arceus is also reallly close for me tho)
@@ItzJhon besides arceus yeah
Pokemon Gold - FireRed - - Emerald - Diamond & Pearl - HGSS - SWSH - SV
Screw this I started with Red to not get spoiled with FireRed.
I'd argue that the best game to start at is X and Y, since its the easiest game and the most barebones in terms of locations, story, and postgame
That, and the fact that locations and music are really amazing, so they can serve as a wonderful introduction to the Pokémon magic…, though, it would be weird to go 3D to 2d instead of viceversa
First should be archeus
Second pokemon go eevee or pikachu
I subbed for the Kamina glasses. Nice vid, keep it up.
Real know real 🤝💯😤
Ill make you proud friendo!
Why would you choose SM instead of USUM???
I went into detail in another comment but long story short,
Usum are objectively better games but have an altered plot that doesn't make as much sense as base Sun and moon.
gen 7 is not skippable in any way. snorlaxium z alone is worth it plus you get pre nerf Disguise on mimikyu and the best 3ds era story. just play usum if you can’t do both
Gen 7 is my least fave but if someone wants to be completely versed in the pokemon franchise, you realistically cant skip any gen.