I like this unit for several reasons:2 batteries mean longer run time,the apparatus to change the shoot is much better then the previous snow thrower,and finally the way it pulls itself while in operation is a big improvement over previous battery driven models.Thanks for the demo,it has made my decision on what to purchase for this coming winter.👍✌️
If you buy your equipment from a dealer.....they set it up for you and test it to make sure that it is operating properly, before the send it out the door.
I specifically waited till this version came out and picked it up the other day. It works exactly like the gas version. The blower works well because Toro has gone back to the rubber paddles from the metal blades. A lot of folks don't like the reach-around chute direction change, but I've had that since the early Toro single stages so I'm used to it. It's also one less thing to get jammed up on super cold days.
I have a 21 gas and really like it as well. The only thing I would like improved, is the chute direction added to the machine. It's kind of a pain to reach over all the time and redirect the chute, and I'm talking about canadian winters with a lot of snow some years and the chute adjustment would be wonderful.
Scraping up compacted snow is impressive but a couple inches not really a test of power and longevity. And the snow blower has a very high price point and probably would not due as your only blower in New England unless the driveway was really small.
Holy cow. This looks like a great machine but it's $900 without the battery. It also weighs 68 lbs without the battery. From your video I thought it might weigh more like 30 lbs and cost around $400 to $500, battery included. Still might get one, but I'm 79 years old and 68 + lbs is a lot of weight for me to lift.
I take it back, that price was from the Toro website. At Ace hardware it's $749 with battery and charger. Ace lists the weight at 62 lbs. Seriously considering this after your great review.
Screwed up. I was right the first time. I was looking at the wrong model at Ace. Correct model at Ace is $1299 with battery and charger. Might be out of my price range. Oh well.
I bought a 39901 and I've been very disappointed it really feels underpowered and very fragile even though it has a steel auger, the scrapper is the worst part since it's a flimsy piece of plastic that can break at the slightest hard push or floor inperfection. I would like to ask you about this 39921 scrapper or what happens if you push the machine slightlly through uneven terrain like grass or some gravel? I'm still on time to return it and buy this one instead, you'r video was really informative and this is the type of slushy snow that we get so I need to be able to break the ice once in a while.
I have a 621QZE gas one. I’d like to see this battery model with 8-10 inches. I know you can’t control what you get but this is not much of a performance review.
For the price, you might as well go with the new battery SnowMaster if you don't have to lift it or you always have someone to help with the lifting. I have the gas SnowMaster and it destroys all snow up to heavy wet snow.
Very good review and it would be nice to see if you used the older version (Toro e21) in comparison with this latest model. It would show how much deeper the new model would 'dig' into the snow. BTW, I wouldn't call this a 2 stage blower as it is still a single stage machine.
I wish what are the smallest single stage machines engine power going to the wheel. I believe currently the Toro snowmaster is the only single stage machine that is designed like that. Before the 1980s many single-stage machines had power going going to the wheels. In my experience unless your driveway is very smooth a single stage machine that's propelled by the paddle doesn't always work very well.
Research says the battery has a shelf life of 3-4 years and each battery is about $350 . You will not spend that much on maintenance for a Toro gas snow blower that many times is also cheaper than the electric version to begin with.
Research citation? I bought the toro electric mower and then the snow blower when the mower first came out--I think 4 years ago. With weekly mowing in the summer and snow blowing in the winter all on the same 2 batteries, I have seen no degradation. I also have a 6 yr old electric car with 105,000 miles and no battery issues
Can u make a nonstop video tackling at least 6" of snow clearing the entire driveway (move your car out the way) and sidewalk to check power and battery life??
It does not have twice the capacity of the original E 21 battery snowblower. All the second battery does is help with propulsion. If you actually take the time and read the specifications and actually throws a lot less snow per minute. They are both 21 inches wide with a 12 inch opening. I know because I own every Toro product out there. They both have the same pros and cons to the gas model single stage units. With one exception if the battery goes out, and believe me, they do gas would be the better option. I currently have one of the big batteries that is giving me grief. I will probably replace the whole unit rather than spend C$600 on a new battery. Better off going with a Toro 721 RC. One last tip If you do not run pump gas in a gas, powered snowblower, you will never have a problem. Examples of these fuels are aspen 4, trufuel .
Where have you been? Vacation to sunny Florida? You may not remember me, but I commented on the NorthWestern U gear as our daughter was in law school there. Well, she graduated, WITH HONORS, and was snapped up by a very impressive top law firm there. Now, wife has decided that, in a few years, she want's us to mover there to be close to her. I don't know as we only get snow here once every 2-3 years and it's lucky it's only a couple inches (we are in the North Metro Atlanta area). Wouldn't a flame thrower be quicker?
Michael! Man, congrats to you and her! That's awesome! I'm not sure that I'd trade warm Atlanta for Chicago cold, but it would be a change of pace for sure! Well, come on up! Hopefully, I'll see ya here!!
WTF Toro, why remove the chute rotate bar? That is a hard fail IMO. Having the bar was good enough, not great but WAY better than this. But you are competing with EGO that has a chute control at the handle that makes it a piece of cake to rotate when clearing.
Not a true self-propel..you will feel the dead weight of the machine if there are 6 inches of snow or hard ice … I’ve had several of these rubber augers “self-propelled”…..you don't need gym membership…
@@willingj1this is auger propelled like the ego version The 2125 AP I believe.. I just bought this model today and I imagine we'll have snow in the next few weeks but I can't wait It's amazing little machine coming from a snow Joe so this is a significant upgrade. I was looking at that ego however but I saw another review on here by this other guy and he swears by it I think it's a 45 minute video by Paul sikkema you should watch that one and he reviews a lot of snow blowers although he didn't have a true heavy snow test in this video it was a lot less snow I guess given what he was dealing with it was only a few inches but he goes through everything on it. This model also has a spring loaded scraper bar I believe it is so it's more forgiving over bumps etc my model came with one battery a 10 amp one not the seven and a half and the two and a half like many are. I'm not sure if living in Canada has something to do with it because the Toro rep said they just got these ones in and they weren't even told they were coming with 110 amp battery... Cheers
Hi Kevin. I went with the 2125 AP because of the handwarmers, and the auger propelled and hope I will be able to handle it when and if our snow comes in OH. I saw one review on here where the reviewer had handwarmers installed on his machine. He stated if you can get them, do it. Plus, with the auger I thought it would leave less chance of damaging any surfaces. I would have purchased the metal auger, but it really didn't come with any extras except the ramped-up batteries. @@kevinwolfe237
I like this unit for several reasons:2 batteries mean longer run time,the apparatus to change the shoot is much better then the previous snow thrower,and finally the way it pulls itself while in operation is a big improvement over previous battery driven models.Thanks for the demo,it has made my decision on what to purchase for this coming winter.👍✌️
If you buy your equipment from a dealer.....they set it up for you and test it to make sure that it is operating properly, before the send it out the door.
I specifically waited till this version came out and picked it up the other day. It works exactly like the gas version. The blower works well because Toro has gone back to the rubber paddles from the metal blades. A lot of folks don't like the reach-around chute direction change, but I've had that since the early Toro single stages so I'm used to it. It's also one less thing to get jammed up on super cold days.
A big snow blower is like an insurance policy, you hope you never need it vut if you do you'll be glad you have it
I have a 21 gas and really like it as well. The only thing I would like improved, is the chute direction added to the machine. It's kind of a pain to reach over all the time and redirect the chute, and I'm talking about canadian winters with a lot of snow some years and the chute adjustment would be wonderful.
Yes! My thoughts exactly.
Scraping up compacted snow is impressive but a couple inches not really a test of power and longevity. And the snow blower has a very high price point and probably would not due as your only blower in New England unless the driveway was really small.
Holy cow. This looks like a great machine but it's $900 without the battery. It also weighs 68 lbs without the battery. From your video I thought it might weigh more like 30 lbs and cost around $400 to $500, battery included. Still might get one, but I'm 79 years old and 68 + lbs is a lot of weight for me to lift.
I take it back, that price was from the Toro website. At Ace hardware it's $749 with battery and charger. Ace lists the weight at 62 lbs. Seriously considering this after your great review.
Screwed up. I was right the first time. I was looking at the wrong model at Ace. Correct model at Ace is $1299 with battery and charger. Might be out of my price range. Oh well.
I bought a 39901 and I've been very disappointed it really feels underpowered and very fragile even though it has a steel auger, the scrapper is the worst part since it's a flimsy piece of plastic that can break at the slightest hard push or floor inperfection. I would like to ask you about this 39921 scrapper or what happens if you push the machine slightlly through uneven terrain like grass or some gravel? I'm still on time to return it and buy this one instead, you'r video was really informative and this is the type of slushy snow that we get so I need to be able to break the ice once in a while.
I have a 621QZE gas one. I’d like to see this battery model with 8-10 inches. I know you can’t control what you get but this is not much of a performance review.
For the price, you might as well go with the new battery SnowMaster if you don't have to lift it or you always have someone to help with the lifting. I have the gas SnowMaster and it destroys all snow up to heavy wet snow.
Very good review and it would be nice to see if you used the older version (Toro e21) in comparison with this latest model. It would show how much deeper the new model would 'dig' into the snow. BTW, I wouldn't call this a 2 stage blower as it is still a single stage machine.
I wish what are the smallest single stage machines engine power going to the wheel. I believe currently the Toro snowmaster is the only single stage machine that is designed like that. Before the 1980s many single-stage machines had power going going to the wheels. In my experience unless your driveway is very smooth a single stage machine that's propelled by the paddle doesn't always work very well.
I'm thinking about getting one for my mom but she's 81 and 68 lbs might be a bit much for her to handle 🤔
Research says the battery has a shelf life of 3-4 years and each battery is about $350 . You will not spend that much on maintenance for a Toro gas snow blower that many times is also cheaper than the electric version to begin with.
Research citation? I bought the toro electric mower and then the snow blower when the mower first came out--I think 4 years ago. With weekly mowing in the summer and snow blowing in the winter all on the same 2 batteries, I have seen no degradation. I also have a 6 yr old electric car with 105,000 miles and no battery issues
I just got one similar thanks for the insight
Dang, now I gotta get me one. The single battery is a beast already, now this comes out? I might not need the 2 stage after all!
welcome back. you were missed.
Can u make a nonstop video tackling at least 6" of snow clearing the entire driveway (move your car out the way) and sidewalk to check power and battery life??
Nice little unit,Nice find panda!!
How do you easily fold it up for storage. I do not see a way. It takes up way to much room
Loosen the knobs on the handle and it tips forward.
Can it work with one battery?
Thanks for sharing!
It does not have twice the capacity of the original E 21 battery snowblower. All the second battery does is help with propulsion. If you actually take the time and read the specifications and actually throws a lot less snow per minute. They are both 21 inches wide with a 12 inch opening. I know because I own every Toro product out there. They both have the same pros and cons to the gas model single stage units. With one exception if the battery goes out, and believe me, they do gas would be the better option. I currently have one of the big batteries that is giving me grief. I will probably replace the whole unit rather than spend C$600 on a new battery. Better off going with a Toro 721 RC. One last tip If you do not run pump gas in a gas, powered snowblower, you will never have a problem. Examples of these fuels are aspen 4, trufuel .
Are u saying that this new one is overrated and that the original E21 is just as good?
Nice Peter.
Awesome video keep up the great and awesome work
Thanks, Luke!!
@@petervonpanda you're welcome
My state governor of New York loves the idea of criminalizing all gas emissions. This is the junk we are being forced to buy within a couple of years.
Where have you been? Vacation to sunny Florida? You may not remember me, but I commented on the NorthWestern U gear as our daughter was in law school there. Well, she graduated, WITH HONORS, and was snapped up by a very impressive top law firm there. Now, wife has decided that, in a few years, she want's us to mover there to be close to her. I don't know as we only get snow here once every 2-3 years and it's lucky it's only a couple inches (we are in the North Metro Atlanta area). Wouldn't a flame thrower be quicker?
Michael! Man, congrats to you and her! That's awesome! I'm not sure that I'd trade warm Atlanta for Chicago cold, but it would be a change of pace for sure! Well, come on up! Hopefully, I'll see ya here!!
WTF Toro, why remove the chute rotate bar? That is a hard fail IMO. Having the bar was good enough, not great but WAY better than this. But you are competing with EGO that has a chute control at the handle that makes it a piece of cake to rotate when clearing.
Whats a dual Batter?????
Not a true self-propel..you will feel the dead weight of the machine if there are 6 inches of snow or hard ice … I’ve had several of these rubber augers “self-propelled”…..you don't need gym membership…
Long time no see
I'm back!!
Its not a self propelled lawnmower
Really? I'm disappointed. I guess I will go with my first choice EGO.
@@willingj1this is auger propelled like the ego version The 2125 AP I believe.. I just bought this model today and I imagine we'll have snow in the next few weeks but I can't wait It's amazing little machine coming from a snow Joe so this is a significant upgrade. I was looking at that ego however but I saw another review on here by this other guy and he swears by it I think it's a 45 minute video by Paul sikkema you should watch that one and he reviews a lot of snow blowers although he didn't have a true heavy snow test in this video it was a lot less snow I guess given what he was dealing with it was only a few inches but he goes through everything on it. This model also has a spring loaded scraper bar I believe it is so it's more forgiving over bumps etc my model came with one battery a 10 amp one not the seven and a half and the two and a half like many are. I'm not sure if living in Canada has something to do with it because the Toro rep said they just got these ones in and they weren't even told they were coming with 110 amp battery... Cheers
Hi Kevin. I went with the 2125 AP because of the handwarmers, and the auger propelled and hope I will be able to handle it when and if our snow comes in OH. I saw one review on here where the reviewer had handwarmers installed on his machine. He stated if you can get them, do it. Plus, with the auger I thought it would leave less chance of damaging any surfaces. I would have purchased the metal auger, but it really didn't come with any extras except the ramped-up batteries. @@kevinwolfe237
Just $150 to $250 to replace each battery in a couple of years. How dumb can anyone be?
This video reeks of sensationalizing the mundane. It's only shooting 2 inches of snow while this guy is over exuberant and giddy. What a sham.
Power screwdriver was a pos