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Are Electric Snowblowers Any Good? Toro Single Stage 60V Power Clear REVIEWED + *SNOWMAGEDDON TEST*
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- *Your wife won't hate you if you get a Toro Single Stage 60V Power Clear so click this link**
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Electric snowblowers have a reputation for being underpowered and small. But can Toro's latest and greatest Single Stage 60 Volt Power Clear change that rep? We'll see! 16 inches of snow hit my city hard so I put the Toro Single Stage 60V Power Clear to the test.
00:00 - Snow Day Snow Day Snow Day
00:54 - Olé!
02:08 - Specs
03:10 - Pros
04:02 - End of Driveway EOD Test
05:33 - Test on sticky snow, fluffy snow, hard snow
05:56 - Pros Cont'd
06:58 - Snow shovel VS Toro 60V
11:06 - More Pros
11:50 - Snowblower myths DEBUNKED
15:05 - Cons
18:20 - Final Verdict
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So what are YOU using to dig yourself out of your snowy pandemic grave in 2022? A gasoline snowblower? Battery-powered snowblower? Shovel? Flamethrower (DO NOT USE THAT)? Tell me. Tell us. And while you're at it check out this link for some extra info on the Toro Single Stage 60V Power Clear:
www.toro.com/en/homeowner/snow-blowers/power-clear-60v-39901?Social&Toro_RLC_
Just bought an Ariens deluxe 28. Haven’t had a chance to use it yet.
I bought this snowblower after watching several reviews. What u all failed to mention..... After pushing heavy snow for 2 hours (machine is light without snow) my aching body, muscles hurting... After the second day, I had to clear packed windrow, I needed Bengay lotion to soothe the pain.. Someone pls make a compact battery powered 2 stage, self propelled snowblower. Pls pls thk u. 🙏🙏🙏
This was a very, very good review! And great conditions to put this little beast to the test.
Finally! A youtube review on this product that is actually a review, not a promotion! Pretty good production value considering your budget. Well done, Jeremy, and thank you for telling the viewers what you don't like about the product.
Thanks for sharing im definitely purchasing this snow blower in November.
Excellent creative and 100% revue… Keep up the exceptional work!
Thank you, I will Luc!
Love love love mine! I’m middle aged with a ton of metal in my legs. I’ve been looking to move to some place that doesn’t snow because last year it was so hard on me. Could not find a snow removal company in CO for residential when I looked this year. I was bummed. I took the plunge in Sept, and bought this after watching several reviews to prepare. I couldn’t be happier. I’m the first one out, I even do a bit of my neighbors walk cuz I have battery power left and it’s so easy and quick. Instead of spending all afternoon (with several, breaks-resulting in a super sore body), I’m done in less than 0.5 hrs.
Love this! Thanks for sharing your experience, Jennifer. Keep on crushing it.
Epic Review & Video!!! 👊👊 Just bought one and love it!! ❄️
Jeremy that was an excellent, comprehensive review. Thank you! You and your wife are a great couple! I just bought this snowblower a few days ago and I was very excited about it. I was disappointed in their assembly instructions - called for too much mind reading. I wish I had seen your little video on attaching the chute extension. That would have helped. This morning I had my first real chance. My driveway was easy-peasy, but that end of driveway stuff was a bear. AND - the county snowplow had done an extra good job of doing the street depositing.a MOUNTAIN of clumpy, compressed, icy snow on my sidewalk. I got through it but I was totally exhausted. I am almost 78 years old and I figured, well, I may drop dead of a heart attack, but at least my neighbors will find my body before it starts to rot! Also, when I watched you using the snowblower on your end of driveway stuff, you looked like you were having a hard time as well. I guess the tip of doing a little at a time, letting the snowblower bite into it is a good one. Also on really high parts, pivoting the snowblower up on its wheels to try. to get just the top part first may help. I see from your review I'm not missing something magical. Thanks again.
Thank you for sharing your Toro Power Clear adventure! When it comes to that end of driveway pile my best tip is to start removing immediately after the snowplow piles it up there. As you discovered it doesn’t take very long for that “EOD” pile to start freezing. I was able to power through it in the video because it was night time so the snow didn’t have much of a chance to melt and freeze due to sunlight and also because I went right out there immediately after the snowplow had passed. By the time I finished my end of driveway mess and went to help my neighbour with theirs it had already started to freeze.
Great review, great video. I own an old Toro gas snowblower and have been contemplating switching to an electric one. Thanks for an honest review.
Thanks my dude I hope you found it useful. Like all big tools there is always room for improvement but taken as it is the Toro Single Stage 60V Power Clear impressed the hell out of me. The only way that I work with sponsors is under the condition that I can present the pros AND cons about their product's shortcomings. And without blinking Toro told me to go ahead and be honest which speaks to how confident they were that I'd like this snowblower.
Keep your gas snowblower for now. These eat batteries fast and they cost more than gas. The batteries just don't last long enough yet. Probably about 5 years until they will really be able to compete with gas.
Next storm, please send your wife and snowblower to my house. LOL Entertaining video. I love the engine sound and smell of gas of my Ariens.
Ha will send her through USPS. Just give me an address and have her back by midnight,
I know what you mean about the engine sound and smell. Sometimes, just sometimes, it can be satisfying to hear and feel engine output. Like a Hellcat versus a Tesla. But for everyone else the electric snowblower just works.
nice work on the editing. :)
I have owned large 2 stages, and gas single stages and now have a corded PowerClear 1800. Zero maintenance, and while the end of the driveway portion sucks I have a neighbor next door with a big two stage and he can help me dig out, just have to do it a few times.
What’s the power draw like on your corded PowerClear? Ever tripped a breaker? Always wondered about the corded line of snowblowers. Also- good neighbors kick all sorts of ass.
This is an excellent review. I purchased the Toro 60V last winter and I am thoroughly impressed with this little beast. Two tips: use a shovel to loosen and spread really high piles of snow and you will be able to clear anything without having to force it to bite off more than it can chew in one bite (it can handle about 12" at a time easily). If the chute freezes don't try and force it with the handle just grab the chute and twist it and you will find it will loosen up. This is the perfect little machine for most homeowners with a typical residential driveway. Highly recommended for a typical Canadian winter.
All great tips- thank you for watching and sharing this very helpful comment.
I agree about breaking up the snow , mostly at end of driveway. Why damage the machine.
I love the fact that it has a headlight but in my opinion I think it’s a little too expensive for me
Sorry I forgot to add in my other comment that my next door neighbor has an EGO snow blower that has gotten clogged with wet snow a few times when we were out about the same time, the Toro e21 has not clogged even once.
BTW compared to the gas snow blowers this thing doesn't even get hot so it doesn't even have any melted snow on it. My garage is heated so I clean off the snow blower after use so I don't leave huge puddles of water , I use a round toilette brush I bought at the dollar store to just brush off the outside as well the toilette brush cleans out and snow left in the chute, takes one'll s minute or so to clean up
The toilet brush is a GREAT idea. Because I was just awkwardly poking at my chute with a broomstick. A toilet brush would work so much better. Thanks for sharing this idea.
Video is fantastic , deserves way more views.
I appreciate this feedback! Hope it was useful to you and I hope anyone still wondering about lithium ion snowblowers finds this vid.
The battery electric snow throwers are making me reconsider gas for commercial use but the charge times and price of the batteries are one of the issues I still have with getting one. Currently my lineup of equipment for snow removal consists of Garant snow pushers and a scoop (slay shovel), a Honda HS35 single stage, an older Toro 21 inch two stage repowered with a Honda GX160, Cub Cadet 3X 28" HD and an Echo PAS2620 with ProSno power shovel attachment and power broom.
I love my electric Toro but it is best for homeowners. For commercial operators it is very difficult to beat the “fill up and go” feature of gasoline snowblowers given how many houses you’ll be clearing snow at on a given day. Go with a gasoline Toro snowblower for your commercial needs.
Excellent and enjoyable video.
Started out like a Hallmark movie LOL
I've had one for a year now. Works well but I would love to have the new 2-stage. They are a lot more expensive though.
man that blower has a VIP ticket on the struggle bus.
Cute video. Informative too.
Good review, i bought one back in November. You are right on all accounts. When I first got it the direction chute was super stiff, so I sprayed some WD40 to help make it turn easier, it helped a little in that respect but the biggest advantage is that it doesn't freeze up or at least so far. If someone else has a better suggestion, let me know.
I keep my battery inside coz Li battery can loose capacity when they get cold, i only bring it out just before I start blowing snow, once the snow blower is operating, the battery stays warm enough on it own even in minus 20 degree cold
I did find the chute a bit stiff as well. I think it needs a slight break-in period. Because after going through that big storm plus another few snowfalls it seems to be loosening up a bit. I'll try that WD-40 idea.
Good tip regarding bringing the battery indoors. Batteries are the most expensive part of tools nowadays so they are worth protecting.
@@JeremyY
And this battery costs $350 to replace. Do Toro provide any estimate of how long it may last?
I see '3-year warranty' on the box but I'm not sure it's worth spending that much every three years.
theres a snowblo spray can buy helps slicken up plastics so snow they slivers through
FYI, batteries love being stored in the cold, just not charged or discharged in the cold. If you bring in and charge/top-up the batteries the day before using, that'll be ideal. After using it, don't put it on charge right away, let it warm up and then charge it to like 80%. Before using it again top it up to 100%. Don't store it nearly completely charged or discharged. If you are going to not use the batteries for a long time, store it charged at 60%.
This is all if you want to bother with all that of course, have it room temperature before using it and avoiding leaving it at 0 or 100% while stored are most helpful. Hope this helps!
@@YouzTube99 the current and only guarantee on quality is the 3 year battery guarantee (pay for it on a credit card offering an Extended Warranty benefit on all purchases and up to +1 year additional year gets added). I personally do not see any reason why the FlexForce battery would stop working after 3 years especially if the battery is kept indoors during the coldest season and used (as in depleted through use and recharged) on a regular basis.
It’s your choice between replacing the battery every so often or spending $$ on premium ethanol-free gasoline + seasonal oil changes + spark plugs.
I haven’t tried this, but I would try some WD-40, silicone spray or perhaps FluidFilm (baaaa 🐑) to help keep the chute from freezing and binding. WD-40 would make the most sense as it is intended to dispel water.
Also (I have done this) spray any of these, or Pam cooking spray, into the inside of the chute, to keep snow from sticking to it and hopefully prevent clogging.
I like this tip- thanks for sharing. I’ve got some Pam in the pantry and will give it a shot.
Comparing it to a shovel was a little redundant but still a great video you showed it’s a capable machine
Thanks- I did that comparison because of all the fools on my block who scoffed at me and my snowblower! Believe it or not there are lots of people out there who think a $20 handled piece of plastic is a viable alternative to a snowblower. Well now who’s laughing- I’m inside having a coffee and they’re still outside huffing and sweating with a shovel.
Just went through heavy snow last week and ended up with a bad cold because I spent too much time outdoors shoveling the thick snow. Finally recovered from the cold yesterday and started looking for a new snowblower. I liked the EGO 56V single-stage snowblower, but I hesitated because it weighs 36kg. Went to another store and was impressed by how light the Toro 60V e21 snowblower is, so I bought one. I'll be using it later this week since snow is in the forecast. I'm just wondering if spraying the auger and chute with ceramic wax would reduce clogging.
Checking in with you and your E21. Have you had a chance to unleash it?
@@JeremyY Just went through a heavy snowstorm and -37 degrees Celsius this couple of days. I am really impressed with the E21. It is lightweight yet very powerful, and the battery lasted for about 45 minutes. It also takes up little storage space, and its metal auger could last forever. We had about 8-10 inches of snow one night, and the E21 sliced through the snow like a hot knife through butter. The machine is basically exactly as you described in your video.
I have one it's lightweight and easy to use. No gasoline needed.
Thanks for the informative video. Can you talk about how many years the battery will last? We're worried that we need to shell out ~$200 every 2-3 years or so to replace the battery which is a major cost.
You’re so welcome and thank you for checking out my review. Toro offers a 3-year warranty on Flexforce Batteries + chargers. And if you put the purchase on a credit card that offers extended warranties that will get you up to one more additional year of coverage, so a 4-year warranty. As a general good ownership practice it’s a good idea to keep your lithium batteries in regular usage like in a lawnmower during the non-winter months. That will keep your batteries in good working shape for a long time.
Hmm, I think I'll stick with my 120V 15A SnowJoe, at least until I get a gas powered 2 stage snow blower. I don't worry about exhaust fumes, smelling like gas and I actually like doing routine maintenance on my equipment. I also like the power that inherently comes with gas and steel as opposed to electric, plastic and rubber. I put skis on the Snowjoe because it's a single stage and I have a gravel driveway. No, I didn't buy it, it was a gift when I mentioned last year that at my age, shoveling snow with a grain scoop was getting really old. Having now had a taste of not shovelling though, I'm hooked and am ready to invest in a gas powered model.
Would it be hard to pull back and forth at the bottom of the driveway like you did if it was a self-propelled version?
Good review! I use the Ego 2 stage snow blower. Only used it once this winter,so hopefully next year we will have more snow ❄️ 🤣
Well now that you wished it it's gonna happen!
I'm on my 3rd winter with this machine. It's been great, except for the scrapper blade. They only last me one season, and with taxes etc it's just shy of $75 CDN.
Yeah all snowblowers have some sort of consumable components that need replacement. If you have a gasoline snowblower it’s 90+ octane gasoline (no ethanol), oil changes, spark plugs. With electric like this one it’s a scraper blade. Personally I’d rather deal with *just* the scraper blade.
I hope you have that snow for the two stage version test
We got forecast for a “big storm” last week calling for 25 centimetres of snow. Turned into a bunch of London-style rain for a day. Lame. What the heck is even that can’t even get a snowstorm nowadays
@Jeremy Ying thanks for the great review, and especially for the ideas on storing it when you have very limited storage space even in the garage. Yours is also the first video I’ve seen that shows it tipped and standing upright on the bucket. Just a few questions:
1. There seems to be a sort of rattle that I’ve not heard in any of the other reviews. Was something loose on your sample?
2. Your video is one of the few demonstrating snow height significantly higher than the 12” interior of the collection bucket. With this 16-17” snowstorm you mentioned clearing “most of my 50’ driveway plus walkways on a single charge.” Any idea approx how many square feet total you needed to clear? (I’m trying to get a better idea of the total snow volume you cleared in this demo.)
3. Are you considering Toro’s rapid charger?
4. Any thoughts about the plastic construction?
5. How much does it weigh?
I think that rattling is due to ice or compacted snow stuck in the auger. My 2 stage does the same thing. I can either shove the stick in there and try to break it up or just use it and it will eventually clear itself.
@@WatsitTooyah you’re probably right about the ice causing that rattle.
@Jeremy Ying thanks for any thoughts on my earlier questions. Very good video.
Thank you for watching the video and asking these questions:
1. I heard same sound after I attacked that snowplow windrow at 04:03. So I had the local Toro dealer check it out yesterday as a precaution- my Toro electric snowblower was totally fine. That rattle you heard was likely caused by: a frozen chunk of snow stuck to the auger causing the one side to vibrate harder during operation OR a piece of mulch that they found jammed between the scraper blade and the body. In either case the snowblowers works fine and runs nice and quiet despite the dealer doing no service to it. They only suggested doing smaller passes when going at the windrows.
2. I measured out my driveway: 8.5" feet wide x 83" feet long (longer than I guessed in the video)! So that's 705.50 ft².
3. Are you considering Toro’s rapid charger?
No, I do not see a need for it at this time. We seem to be getting by okay with the standard charger. I'll let you know if that changes.
4. Any thoughts about the plastic construction?
All metal construction would be nice but the trade off is that it would add quite a bit more weight to it. Plus I live in a salt province so it would also pose a rusting risk. The plastic build is so far decent and acceptable. I have hit a few sidewalk bumps and it hasn't cracked.
5. How much does it weigh?
Online retailers list it as: 55 pounds. Not "heavy" but you do need to lift with good technique because it's wide and therefore slightly awkward to carry. I am not a big person so carrying it should not be too big of a problem unless you have back issues.
@@JeremyY thanks very much for this great feedback! You really do make a snow day look like fun, especially after reviewing this charger! Keep up the good work. 👍
@@WatsitTooyah Just got back from a local Toro dealer who inspected it after I saw a few comments about the sound. You are correct- the dealer tech confirmed that the sound you all heard was likely caused by a mass of ice stuck on the auger blade causing a vibration. My Toro required no servicing and is currently running like new. Just thought I'd bring it to a dealer to get it fully inspected to get the official word on that.
i have one but still prefer my gas single and two stage 👍
Just a heads up a proper full size 2 stage gasoline powered snowblower will chew through the snow plow pile even when it’s frozen. If it’s pure ice you can break it up with a pick axe to bucket size chunks.
Hm that's interesting. Because I had an old 2 stage (8 HP) that struggled with frozen EOD. Then again that one was old and pre tune-up, whereafter I cleaned the carb, lapped the valves and did a few other things. I had to pick axe my way out even with that old 2 stage. In other news I found my pickaxe for free curbside and it's so old and rusty I'm 99% sure it's from the Gold Rush era.
I would bet toro's 2 stage 60v has more torque than the gas version. It refuses to stall out on anything I give it. Bogging is another story but just need to slow down enough in that case.
That's definitely true but I don't have room to store a 2 stage. Here on Long Island I use a 2 stroke Toro single stage and even with the driveway I'm finished well before the 2 stage machines in my neighborhood in 95% of the snow storms we get. I will say I am probably much sweatier after clearing the plowed street snow at the EOD than I would be with a 2 stage but I make up the time and sweat spent in those situations with the speed I get during a normal snowfall. Would love to have both!
Has anyone tried to bolt a 1.5" or 2.0" x 1/8" steel band to the bottom of the scraper to keep it from wearing so fast?
Likewise what about installing show blower skids to the front so those keep the bottom aligned for a better longevity?
I'm very probably going to buy one for next year so just some thoughts on how to make this a better tool.
I attached one towards the end of last season. It was a pain and I don't know how well it will work longterm. I wish Toro had a better solution like a steel or nylon blade that won't crack.
Look like you should read the maanual and adjust the scraper blade or the 'augur'
After having a Toro 724 and then a Toro 826 Powermax 2 stage snowblowers I got tired how bulky they are to maneuver and only two forward speeds out of 7 you can use, I just got one of these. A lot Easier to use and gets down to the payment. Plus my wife likes using it, lol.
👆Hugely underrated benefits, right here!👆
@JeremyY In one section you show the folded dimensions as 21 inches width by 37 inches length. Does that 37 inches extend to the handle or only to where your dotted line is? On the Toro website, they state: “Storage dimensions: 27.1 in. x 22.4 x 25.4”. I’m not clear why your dimensions and the Toro dimensions are different. If you can elaborate, please do! I’m trying to figure out if it will fit for me! Thank you.
That dotted line that I drew should have extended out further to properly represent the 37 inches! Front of the bucket to the folded handles is 37 inches length total.
@@JeremyYthank you for clarifying. Huge help! When the handle is fully folded twice (vs the one fold in your video at 6:26 with the dimensions), are the dimensions then closer to Toro’s 27.1 x 22.4 x 25.4?
@JeremyY I'm considering the Toro, but I wanted to ask about the Toro Electric version with two batteries. The version that you've reviewed only takes ONE battery. How long does it really last?
I have a long driveway- about 50 feet. The Toro 60 V Single Stage Power Clear (the one with a singular battery) was able to clear my driveway plus sidewalk during that 16" deep winter storm shown in the review video on a single charge. Bear in mind- that winter storm's snow was light and fluffy.
Thanks for your review. Do you think the self-propelled one would be worth the extra $$ or not worth it?
I think you are referring to the new SnowMaster- is that right? That one uses Toro’s Personal Pace auto drive, which in my experience does make throwing heavier snow a bit easier. Bear in mind that my experience with the Personal Pace auto drive was with the gasoline 724 snowblower- not the electric version.
I had to google it because I wasn't sure of the name. It is the battery 60v Toro Power Propell that is still a stage 1 blower but self-propelled. I guess it runs around $1100. Versus $699 so that's a big difference. Maybe the non-propelled would be good enough.
Ear protection seems a bit overkill but hey you guys can do whatever you want!
I was on the fence on the model in the video, unsure if it could handle serious lake effect snow. I saw you have to really shove it into tall snow. Toro just released a new model so I got the new 2 stage toro 60v electric ⚡💪 it handles the plow piles well. Quietest 2 stage on the market.
@Watsit Tooyah, which two-stage electric Toro did you decide upon?
I saw a couple of recent videos by owners of the e26 that mentioned their disappointment in the battery life. One of them seemed to be a case of mismanagement of expectations. However, one other showed his e26 that stopped far short in battery life for what I would have expected. Would like to get your real-world input on how it’s working out for you in this regard.
@@ulysses01 e24. Its not as efficient as the e21 single stage. However it's not terrible and I can clear what I need to and usually have enough charge to help out the neighbors. I use 3 6ah batteries. 1 came from the mower.
@@WatsitTooyah I’m only guessing here. But the seemingly lower efficiency must be due in part to the battery needing to power the the larger motor; driving a heavier device; and rapidly spinning a more powerful auger. Even with dual 6 Ah batteries, they’re having to work pretty hard. Still, the two-stage e24 and e26 seem to really hold their own in terms of power when compared with the gas-powered equivalents, the Power Max 824 and 826.
How are you faring when you need to work on curves or need to turn the e24?
@@ulysses01 It's a pain to turn on dry pavement. Not a huge deal. Still really appreciate the self drive and big tires. It works really well overall.
I occasionally curve when driving it and it's not difficult. I usually kick it in gear when I spin it 180 because it's easier.
It didn't require too much shoving to be honest- we just had to get used to tilting the electric Toro "downwards" as you push so it can get right down to the pavement. I just got too used to self-propelled snowblowers that you just had to walk behind. Just takes a bit of getting used to. But tell me more about your 2 stage. I saw that it takes 3 batteries so that's a hungry boi. Have you upgraded to the rapid charger for that reason? And how does it handle with the added weight from 3 batteries?
This is the perfect video to help explain and show why you should get a 2-Stage Snow Blower.
Haha this Single Stage cleared 16" inches of lake effect snow on a single charge. Most people don't live out in Alaska where you'd get anything higher than that.
How many days' work do you have to miss from pulling your back to make a snow blower cost effective?
EXACTLY
Its still amusing that people would prepay for any services before the service is done. Even reputable companies can declare bankruptcy. Its nice you put it through its paces at the end of the driveway snow plow mess.
And they’re pre-paying for a service that’s impossible to provide uniformly across all subscribers. Some customers will get their snow removed early, others will get shafted with late service . But all pay the same amount of $$. Ridiculous.
My only concern is replacing scrapper every 20 hours... does this mean every year you need a new scrapper? and would you know the cost?
Scraper blade costs about $30 USD based on online listings. I bought one last year but still haven’t replaced mine despite having used it for close to 20 hours. 20 hours is the manufacturer’s recommended interval but my scraped blade is still looking pretty good after one winter season.
Jeremy Ying snowblower is a back saver same power as gas power and save more money for repairs
It really is. It is impossible to go back to the snow shovel after experiencing this.
Did you buy the additional scraper with the original purchase? Also, was there a tool ( like a small shovel) to clear the chute if needed? Finally, did you review or test the Toro shovel (39909T)
12" (31 cm) 60V MAX* (2.5 ah) Electric Battery Power Shovel)?
1) No. But I also didn’t have to clear the chute at all during last year’s winter. If you insist on owning a tool for that purpose you can use nearly anything stick-like for clearing the chute as long as it’s at least an arm’s length. Hockey stick, wooden spoon from your kitchen. Just don’t use your own unprotected hands.
2) I’ll review it. Will reply to you again once the vid is up. What aspects about the Power Shovel would you like to really know about?
@@JeremyY Thanks Jeremy for the reply. I went to our authorized Toro dealer and he told me that his main complaint with the shovel is its single direction of throwing snow. Impossible to shift the snow to the side without fully turning the device in that direction. Personally, I found it quite heavy with the battery at the top of the handle. Design-wise, it would be better above the shovel so the majority of the weight is at the bottom. I was hoping my wife could use it when there wasn't much snow and would do it in transition of significant snowfalls. I think the shovel and its battery almost weigh the same as the single-stage snow thrower (44 lbs). I put some WD-40 Synthetic on the interior of the chute in preparation for the first snow. Also, the dealer told me that he's never had to use any mini-shovel to clear the chute as it doesn't clog. Finally, he suggested using contractor's glue (like PL1) to gently coat the scraper on both sides to reinforce the plastic to minimize damage to it.
@healthygolfer I put together a new review of the Power Shovel in response to your comment! Have a look and I hope you find it useful:
ua-cam.com/video/7qP5OwXZITM/v-deo.html
What is the battery your using and the name of the Toro model? Also, did you ever use the ego STN2114 with the 2x7.5Ah with steel auger? If yes, is it better?
Battery is the FlexForce L405. Toro snowblower model is the 60V Power Clear e21.
I have not used the EGO STN2114. But I do own an EGO LM2000 (1st Gen) mower, and EGO IPX4 String Trimmer. As someone who recently bought a new EGO string trimmer after owning their 1st generation version I can say this much- I am not impressed with the build quality of newer, current generation EGO equipment. Their 1st Gen equipment was great. But over the years they have significant skimped out on build quality. Based on what I have seen firsthand I would not recommend EGO.
@@JeremyY How does the Toro manage the icy snow plow at the end of the driveway?
How do you store the Toro to save room as I don't have much room in my garage and no wall available to hang on? Unscrew the 4 screws each time?
How much$$ the scraper ?
Does it pull you along like the gas powered ones?
No the one in this review video does not. But Toro did release a self-propelled version recently!
What kind of car did you put the snowblower in in this video ?
Prius V! Your vehicle definitely needs a hatch-style trunk to fit this snowblower.
Not all two-stage machines are difficult to turn. Some of them have either a trigger steering or differential make it just as easy to steer as a shopping cart. I will admit that Toro does make excellent single stage snow blowers and I have their older gas-powered 518 which is what I use as a backup machine. Your gas blower might have a way of making it easy to steer but it's only going to work if the wheels are not seized to the shaft. You'll also lose drive on one wheel. It's kind og crude but effective. Can be handy in the off-seasonua-cam.com/video/rn8aoa0VyCE/v-deo.htmlsi=kIp8eTYrbABx6vCo
Glad that you mentioned this- I just replaced an Ariens ST927LE’s differential lock which has this. It does allow for easier steering however the Ariens, like all 2 stage gasoline snowblowers, still has a lot of weight even if it’s self-propelled. Not so easy to maneuver into a small garage space once it is shut off. And using the trigger lock does have a learning curve which would scare off a lot of people who just want to push a snowblower and not worry about triggers.
Which battery did you get? Really liked this video. Want to buy one.
Thank you so much for this comment, Santos L Halper aka adopter of Laddie. The battery I am using is the Flex-Force L405 60 watt 7.5amp.
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Wow! Great video! I love your production quality!! As a UA-cam creator, I aspire to have the polished look of my videos that you seem to easily achieve. Well done, You've got me to hit the subscribe button!!
As far as the snowblower goes, I invite you to have a look at my Ryobi 40V snowblower video. And keep an eye out for the part 2, a follow up (currently in editing) to that video on my channel. Spoiler, I think my next snowblower will be this Toro model after poor experiences with Ryobi.
Thank you so much. Just watched your Ryobi 40V video. You've got a great voice for narration.
Personally I had a lot of disappointing experiences with Ryobi even after light usage. Have had power drills burn out on me during jobs. Never want back to them. Which is a real shame because their battery systems are the cheapest in the market. I'd recommend giving Toro not only because this particular 60V Power Clear's punches WAY above its weight but also because Toro has been making snow removal equipment for such a long time. Toro designs their equipment really well. Even my 1970s era 824 held up nicely up until its tires rotted out.
A totally unsolicited suggestion for your Ryobi videos- I'd recommend putting the product name in your video title for better SEO and easy finding. A lot of my viewers find me via UA-cam search and this could help your vlog get more visibility.
@@JeremyY Thanks man! I really appreciate your feedback. It means a lot coming from someone like you who seems to have this UA-cam thing figured out. I'll take your advice and add the the brand and model to my title. I thought just adding it as "tags" would be enough, but you are completely right! SEO is the key.
I agree, the Ryobi battery system is a fantastic concept and great price point. I don't use Ryobi but was considering it if all went well with these snowblowers. It did not. Now, I may have to upgrade my old Canadian Tire brand cordless power tools with Dewalt.
Thanks again for your video, for viewing mine and leaving a comment and suggestion.
Cheers!
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but that unit seems have like a click type noise dont remember hearing that in other reviews.
Anyway, I was already vested into the EGO tool line so I got their older machine with the rubber auger, OMG best purchase ever. I was so happy when Toro released their model. I knew it would push EGO to update theirs, and they DID!!
This would be the machine I would have gotten hands down. It is 99% perfect. The 1% imperfection is the length of the chute turning rod, you have to bend over the handle to reach it. Easy fix so hopefully Toro will lengthen it in a future model.
Other than that, great machine. Great review
I heard same sound that you're talking and so did a few others in this comment section. So I had the local Toro dealer check it out yesterday as a precaution- my Toro electric snowblower was totally fine. That rattle you shuddering sound was likely caused by: a frozen chunk of snow stuck to the auger causing the one side to vibrate harder during operation OR a piece of mulch that they found jammed between the scraper blade and the body. In either case the snowblowers works fine and runs nice and quiet despite the dealer doing no service to it. They only suggested doing smaller passes when going at the windrows.
Interesting to hear that EGO upgraded their auger- did they go with fully stainless steel? Because I also have an EGO mower and string trimmer. This summer it becomes time to decide to go fully Toro or not!
@@JeremyY well it's not quite 100% steel the middle portion about 3 inches is a small rubber piece that is replaceable basically a smaller version of the rubber paddle. But its has the steel augers that rip through the harder packed snow.
The EGO and Toro are basically equal in performance, maybe slight edge to the Toro. It's hard to say really though. Videos are so tricky and snow depth and consistency of the snow vary so much.
Dude, EGO is coming out with a new string trimmer with Line Q, so no more bumping the head and has the auto feed as well. looks great. Plus a few new products like lights and a fan with misting on it. EGO is going crazy. I just need them to get their heads out their butts and release a power washer
@@beezer5623 oh wow EGO is stepping up their game it sounds like. Line Q sounds great. My EGO equipment is about 7 years old and still kicking but I only hope they have kept up with the build quality after all these years.
@@JeremyY id say build quality is the same or better. They also have a more powerful hand held just released, its a beast. Over 700 CFM and 200MPH lol. Rumor a new upgraded backpack blower is coming to.
Is there a newer version out this year ? Any one know how much it weighs?
I haven’t heard anything about a newer version coming out this year. But the current version is great and if you feel like it’s what you need this winter the best thing to do is to go out and get it. It weighs 55 pounds.
The same version has been out for several years now. I like that it now has a track record. I just picked one up to augment my 12 year old Ariens 2 stage. I only broke that out for big storms, but I have decided that, at 75 arthritic years of age, it is time to quit shoveling. My only concern is pushing it up my sloped, 35 foot driveway.
@@lewisblack3660 ever hear of YakTrax
They are wire grips that go on the boot soles I used them on iced trails they work excellant, just don’t wear them indoors ,I almost fell down the stairs
@@fleadoggreen9062 Yaktrax? I have them. Grreat invention. If pushing it up the slope, through snow, is tough on my old legs I will try going across the drive.
No skid plates on the front.
It doesn’t have those but it also has no problems with catching on massive cracks in my driveway asphalt! Impressive.
5:04 This tells you that you should get the gas version instead. I have both single-stage Toro gas and electric snowblowers, I enjoyed the gas not so much the electric. The electric will have a couple of downsides 1: less power. 2: battery duration. 3: Long charging time. And the cost of the battery is probably the same as maintaining the gas version. And on top of all this, it won't have enough juice for your neighbor after you finish yours.
Just don’t make the mistake I made. I had sand on the driveway and it chewed up my auger 😞
Oh damn dude. Big F to pay respects
Thanks for the warning!
Let me start by saying yes, I am a snow thrower/blower snob and this IS NOT a snow blower... technically. But you say Tom there's no difference, a thrower and blower are both the same. Whoa! Slow your roll my frosty friend there actually is a difference and the proof is literally in the wording "thrower" & "blower" So how can you differentiate between the two? That's a great question and thanks for asking. The quickest way is to see if the auger/blades are spinning very fast or much slower. If it's a thrower the blades will be spinning very rapidly, if it's a blower the blades will be spinning much slower. With the blade spinning so rapidly on the thrower the snow is literally thrown up and out of the shoot. With the blower the blades move much more slowly to pull the snow back to blower portion (an actual metal fan with fins of sort ) that's built into the machine and that fan "blows" the snow up and out. With all that being said I've always preferred a thrower as they are more versatile when it comes to wet slushy snow and typically will not clog as often as blowers have a tendency to do. Throwers are also not nearly as heavy as blowers and clean down to the bare pavement better. Now you have the added benefit of battery power. Much less noise and no gas/oil to worry about. Especially useful if you need to transport your thrower. No spilled fluids! I would love to own this 60v Toro but will be honest and say I was surprised at how expensive it was.
I love that you took the time to leave this detailed comment- thanks Tom. This Toro is not cheap but after 2 winters with it I can confidently say it is worth every penny. I've got neighbours with cheaper electric snow throwers (usually Boxing Day/Black Friday big box specials) and none of them are happy with their purchase. Weak batteries with weak augers. Just ended up with a big pile of buyer's remorse instead of a big pile of thrown snow!
Buy cheap, cry twice.
This is what a snowblower review should look like. The rest are handling the nice, fluffy snow that you can easily shovel away. The true test is the pile the city leaves behind. I also appreciated how it fits in your garage. Mine is even smaller, but I think I can make it work. Thank you.
Thank you so much! I agree that it’s really important to show any review appliance how well it works in the worst conditions. Life isn’t a Hallmark movie with fluffy, sparkly snow. This is real winter where the snow and ice hates you.
The scraper blade issue with both the Toro's and the EGO's are the biggest problem, they're a joke. If you don't have a smooth driveway they catch every crack. It's a design flaw that could be resolved with skid shoes and/or a less aggressive scraper bar edge. Also the plastic is no where near durable enough, sure they claim 20 hours, which is a joke itself but you also may need to replace on the first day as some have had to do because they break when you catch a crack, and when you do catch a crack, it hurts the hands and wrists.
I own the EGO, but I researched and TORO owners have the same complaints as EGO owners with respect to the scraper bars.
By far the most controversial item on Toro electric snowblowers is the scraper blade. But even gasoline snowblowers have shear pins, which break under similar circumstances. And I say this as someone whose driveway is bumpier than the moon's surface!
A less aggressive scraper bar isn't a bad idea in theory- problem is if it was less aggressive it wouldn't clear snow down to the pavement. I have had gasoline snowblowers (two stage AND one stage) that don't have a scraper blade and as a result they leave a thin, compacted layer of hardened snow with each pass. Which then freezes overnight.
The best thing to do is pick a snowblower solution that suits your lifestyle's preferred needs. For me personally it's the Toro 60V Power Clear.
I KNOW THESE SMALL SINGLE STAGES OH SO WELL!!.
HAD THEM FOR 15 YEARS.
CONSTANTLY PLOWING INTO SNOW PUSHING PLOWING PUSHING. CHECK YOUR HEART RATE WHEN YOU'RE DOING WEAR A HEART STRAP. YOUR HEART WILL BE RACING LIKE YOU'RE DOING PUSH-UPS..
That's why I switched to a two-stage electric snowblower.. works a thousand times better. Or if you have bigger property you get a two stage gas..
That thing is only really good for 6 in of snow or less. Anything you have to keep pushing and plowing into over and over does not handle snow well.
And watching you do that proves it does not handle that type of snow well at all It's not made for it.. It's nothing but a workout...
Nope not even close. Didn't break a sweat while using the Single Stage. Also the Toro Single Stage is 55 lbs, while the 2 Stage weighs 186 lbs. Single Stage wins the maneuverability and lightweight game.
@@JeremyY NOPE LOL I've used them PUSH PUSH PUSH BACK UP PUSH PUSH PUSH BACK UP PUSH PUSH PUSH PUSH. YOU ARE LITERALLY DOING CLOSE GRIP PUSH-UPS 🤣
The gas snow blowers have a zero turn on them automatic steering. They propel for you You have to do literally no work.
I've owned single stages forever not even close. Anything that's relatively wet and over 6 in forget about it. Constantly gets stuck stuck stuck stuck push push push push
Been using them for 13 years.
Eventually you will see.. I got sick of it.
I even had a heart rate monitor on average heart rate 154 beats a minute!! You don't realize how much work a single stage takes to push.
Not even close. Sorry.
And I've watched just about every video on your snowblower. It does not do well and deep snow not at all. It is a job It is a chore.
You might be the only lucky one with that type of snow and your situation.
My two-stage snowblower was 10 times easier MAYBE 20 TIMES!!
@@JeremyY DID YOU SEE 186 LB!! IT'S SELF-PROPELLED SO IT WEIGHS NOTHING 🤣 YOU CAN'T EVEN ARGUE WITH THE SCIENCE OF IT. It pushes itself.
HOW MUCH DOES A CAR WEIGH 3,000 LB HOW HARD IS THAT TO PUSH IF THE ENGINES DOING THE WORK. ARE YOU GOING TO BE KIDDING ME I'M LAUGHING SO HARD.
Single stages you have to push you have to do all the work especially if you're plowing into something that's over six or eight inches that's a relatively wet.
You can't even argue this at all. Look at all the videos of two stage and single stage It's not even. Push push push pull back pull back pull back push push. A DUAL STAGE SELF-PROPELLED IS LIKE A CAR!! IT DOES ALL THE WORK ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TURN IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. Especially now with Ariens and Toro's automatic steering differential It does zero turn!!
I just can't stop laughing.
Guarantee you you're doing a workout when you're using your single stage snowblower. With the heavier snowblower that's a two-stage your heart rate is a lot less and it's doing the work for you!!
I'm sorry but I think you just created a new type of dumb seriously!! No offense but that's the only way I can describe what you said. Your statement is 100% wrong, not scientifically correct in any way shape or form.
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Oh wow you're really out to get my Single Stage ain't ya
We ain't scared of ya. You or your snow forecast
well we just went through a big winter and haven't been buried in an igloo despite "only" having a Single Stage. My Toro Single Stage 60V is kicking Old Man Winter's cranky, curmudgeon, cane-shaking, saggy ass.
you get in a wreck with that thing in the back of the car and its gonna take your head off.
Securing any load in your vehicle is definitely a life pro tip. Even a glass bottle or an unsecured passenger thrashing around can become a hazard in a collision. Strap and secure it!
Dont people have wives to shovel ?
thats horrible, get a 2 stage ryobi, they are beasts
4:24- this is why you still need a 2 stage snow blower. You shouldn't need to manually thrust the snowblower into plowed snow drifts.
In a perfect world everyone would have a single stage like the 60V Power Clear AND a two stage sitting out back for the heavy stuff. But if I could only choose one I'd definitely go with a quality Single Stage and I say that as someone who has owned both. Most homeowners are more likely to deal with smaller to moderate snowfalls than they are the 16" dump that I got, which is super rare even for here in Ontario.
I understand - I had a 120' driveway in the upper weather band of NJ (new england weather), and the town would leave it to the homeowners to clear the road snow upwards of 3' from the driveway as well. I'd cruise through the driveway and the bottom was always a chore with a 2-stage.
Thankfully have moved a few towns over and have a very simple driveway and am able to clear it with just the Toro Power Shovel. I'll be helping out my neighbors with the 2 stage in some of these more severe storms with ice top-coats.
@@mattb9664 you sound like an awesome neighbor
The augers on gas single stage blowers touch the ground to help propel it forward. Battery blowers don't, presumably for battery conservation reasons. It makes the battery ones a lot more work to use in conditions like this.
I have to help push my 30 year old 2 stage into what the plow leaves. I think I will get one of these as I have a 6 car driveway and we rarely get storms with more than 10 inches of snow.
Self proclaimed “gas powered snowblower buff”……drives a Prius.
LOL!
Well I tried putting a Tecumseh flathead engine in the Prius it didn’t take
Way too much pushing. I'm over 60 with heart disease. This thing might as well be a shovel.
You could get a self-propelled snowblower, which most 2-stage snowblowers are. But then you'll have to learn the ins and outs of the self-propelled control mechanism and the weight of a large larger machine. It's a "Choose your battle" scenario.
A plastic scraper blade every 24 hours of use?.... At $35 Canadian each, That's not going to happen....
Still better than paying for gasoline + engine oil + a spark plug with a conventional snowblower. $35 per winter season is nothing compared to that.
@@JeremyY I'll just buy one that doesn't have to be changed
Wish I could buy the scrapper blade that inexpensively. I had to order it from a dealer. It came to nearly $75 CND after taxes
Can you share the link to this 35$ scraper blade from Canadian Tire since I've heard it's 75$ CAD dollars.
The ear and eye protection is ridiculous. And its proven at 10:45 You're right next to it and in front with no ear and eye talking into the camera.
I’m just trying my very best to keep my eyeballs and eardrums
Nope.
This video confirms my absolute dislike of electric snownlowers watching you break your back shoving that toy into the plow drift is hysterical 🤣 😆 😂
You would do the same with a gas blower, too.
Not everyone has the space/money for a 2 stage blower.
Hmmm you would have to do the same with a gas snowblower 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Looked like the way you had to jam that into end of driveway over and over, longevity may be an issue. I was surprised it even handled it.
We’ll certainly see if longevity is an issue but I don’t think it will be. I’ve had other lithium-ion powered equipment from other brands go into a protective shut down mode (my EGO mower does that) when faced with a big load. But the Toro powers right through. I have faith in Toro haha
Replacing the scraper every 20 hrs is a dealbreaker
The older ya get the more you need a self propelled with power to eat thru the end of driveways. We don’t want no heart attacks out there. My toro 828 in the lowest gear was the best investment i every made. Literally a life safer.
I hear you on that! But I also think it could be argued that a lighter, more maneuverable snowblower might suit older people, too. I use a two stage gasoline snowblower at our workshop and that thing handles like a Soviet tank.
@@JeremyY New e21 Self propelled with commercial 10Ah L540 battery coming soon! 39921 is the model number