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I have the Sno Joe 2 stage. It was DOA. By the time the replacement arrived, the snow was gone. I have the EGO single stage. I have never used it. I plan on selling both to buy the Toro 60 Volt snowblower with dual batteries.
I just bought the Toro Personal Pace with 6 amp battery. Amazing! I had the EGO Select Cut double blade lawnmower. My first time owning an Ego lawnmower and an Ego. The Ego was terrible! The Toro is a dream with the 22" steel deck, Personal Pace, and superior cut. I can't say enough about the Toro!
PERFECT type of snow for a true test of electric snowblowers. This is the kind of snow that concerns people when considering electric. Thanks for the thorough and fair review!
A perfect example of how to make a good review of a snow blower, well recorded, side by side from the same perspective video where you can clearly see how both perform, i've seen few of your videos and really enjoy the content you put out, keep up the good work
Of all the battery snowblower videos I’ve seen, you’ve done the best job putting the machines through identical tasks. Your camera angles are perfect… and the snowfall you cleaned up is the best possible test. Great job friend, an excellent addition to the best part of UA-cam content. Thank you!
This is super helpful. I’m sick of maintaining my gas two-stage and want a small battery single stage to open up space in my small shed. My fear has been heavy, wet snow and at the end of the driveway. I think you’ve proven to me that the Toro will be a solid selection. Thank you!
I was deciding between a medium duty two stage and the Toro single stage. I don't have a driveway but an approach to my garage from an alley which is about 8 feet long along with a sidewalk in front of my house and a small patio and sidewalk leading to my garage. After watching your video I decided to go to my outdoor power equipment dealer to have a look at the Toro. The employee was so knowledgeable and he demonstrated the Toro for me. My jaw dropped from amazement at how quiet it is. (My vacuum cleaner is louder). He even started the battery operated Toro two stage for me and that was unbelievably quiet as well. Thank you so much for your video! I bought the Toro 60 volt single stage right then and there!
I don't know why I'm watching this video, but I really enjoyed watching it. I live in San Antonio, TX. We've had snow a couple of times in my lifetime. I'm 65 years old. Lol ☺️
Great review. Thanks. Today I got the Toro and used it after 6 inches of snow fall. It used 50 percent of the battery charge to clear a 6 car driveway. Very impressive. So glad I watched your review.
Perfect review setup...love being able to watch them in action at a distance to see exactly how far they throw, really the main reason for watching these reviews...appreciate the effort you put in setting this up...thank you sir!
Paul - thank you for the videos. You are doing a great job in explaining the hands on experience with all the powered equipment you’ve tested. Keep up the good work!
I used a few and the Toro is the only one that hasn’t died. Plus the same battery can be used in other equipment. Ever tried the snow Joe. So thanks for the vid.
Planning to buy the Toro. Wet snow was my concern. I dislike overly long UA-cam videos and almost passed over this. But most of the time is seeing the units run; essentially trying them out from the warmth and comfort of my family room. Cutting through the snow plow pile was a surprise. Thx.
Toro just announced a single stage that ground engaging like the Snow Joe in this video. It has a LOT more power than this one: www.toro.com/en/product/39921
Thank you so much Paul. I live in Philly and was just comparing both blowers. You did an amazing job on this video and really made it a lot easier for me to understand. Have a wonderful 2021 and thank you again
I found it very interesting as I did not have much confidence in these but I think for a homeowner to own one of these might make sense you don't have to get gas you don't have to worry about the carburetor shellacking up every year and having to go through it
Paul, thanks for the side by side comparison. It appears that the Snow Joe can move the snow easier, but the Toro gets a little closer to the pavement. I liked your end comments and battery check. Very helpful.
Thanks for the video. I actually purchased the toro a few weeks ago as we had a pretty heavy snow in Michigan. Honestly, I did not enjoy using it. I’ve gone completely cordless electric with my lawn care equipment, including mower, and I absolutely love it. Would never go back to gas. That being said, the toro snow thrower didn’t seem to have the Performance I was expecting. It was actually more difficult to push it through the snow than my gas powered toro single stage. Also, I have a lot of cracks in my driveway which were like running into a brick wall over and over. My gas toro does not seem to have that problem, being that I can lift it and run the rubber paddles over the cracks and it actually pulls me through the snow. I was a bit disappointed and plan on returning it. I was worn out after forcing it through the snow for 25 min. From just one use, it severely damaged the plastic scraper bar, which is actually worn down and shredded on each end. The scraper bar was not straight right out of the box, each end was slightly curved down and conclaves in the middle so it was mostly only running on each edge and not so much the middle. I took note of that before I even used it, which lost points for quality control in my opinion. I’ve been wanting to order the snow joe but figured I’d wait until you were able to put out this video. I wonder if I should even bother with trying the snow joe at this point. I’m slightly convinced that my driveway is better suited for rubber paddles with all the cracks. I was hoping to get a machine that performs as well as my piece of junk gas powered toro, minus the fumes and noise, but that didn’t happen with the toro. I’m thinking I may just have to put the snow joe to the test to find out. Otherwise, if these are the two best lithium ion snow blowers out now, I guess they’ve not come far enough for me yet. But I HATE gas! It makes my shop smell like gas all winter and that’s what I loved so much about my lithium ion lawn care equipment this past summer. Thank you and we all appreciate the video and reviews.
If you were keeping the snow blower you could exchange it or a Toro dealer would get it repaired for you. (My guess it would be under warranty) My plan is to use a cordless electric when I get 2-6 inches of normal snow. If it's wet snow like the stuff in the video or when I get more than 6 inches I'll get out a 2-stage and use it to throw the snow way off the drive. I can't have just a single stage because we get too much snow and I also need to clear some lawn for the dogs. I've always said, "If you live north of Interstate 70 your primary snow blower should be a 2-stage." Three things are holding back electric. 1. Price. Residential customers are not yet willing to pay double over the cost of a gas unit. 2. Battery tech. Lithium batteries don't like high charge and discharge rates. So, we are limited in the performance we can get with these small battery packs. Elon Musk has a work around for the Tesla but the same tech he's using would make the battery in one of these snow blower cost three times what it does now. 3. Price of gas. As long as gas is under $6 a gallon no one will get serious about electric.
Paul Sikkema right on man. Thanks for the reply. Technology will continue to get better and better as the years go by. I’m just happy I can take care of all my summer maintenance gas free. Happy Thanksgiving and have a great holiday season.
@@PaulSikkema Toyota and other companies are working on solid state batteries which are safer (no liquid to explode) and store 2 to 3 times more energy than lithium. Once those hit production electric will look even better.
This is the first time I hear someone dislike using the Toro E21 (i use an EGO snowblower); however, Both Snow Joe and EGO have 2-stage 24" electric snowblower now if you are interested.
The best part is that the auto snow shute button is very convenient by your hand on the snow joe. I like the rubber covered paddles do not gouge my deck when i use it because they are rubber covered.
Really good comparison....I was really surprised how well the Sno-Joe did up against the Toro. Also impressed with how well both did with that heavy wet snow. Perfect for 80% of suburbia with concrete or interlocking surfaces.
Looking for a snowblower that isn't to big for me to use and was thinking of the Toro but seeing several videos on this Toro 90 has helped make a decision. Thank you.
Good old Nor'easter on its way.....bought the snowjoe a month ago and just made sure the batteries are charged and ready to go....cant wait to try it out for the first time over the next day or two....thanks for the videos....very big help before I get out there!
I have a plug in electric Toro 18” Power Curve that I have had for more than 20 years. I have never had to do any kind of repair to it. I hang it up in the spring and take it down in the winter and it’s ready to go. It has a kind of rubber auger that grabs the pavement and I don’t have to push very hard. It has cleaned both powder and heavy snow without a problem. If it ever wears out I will replace it with another Toro!
Yesterday I bought the SnowJoe 24” 80 volt self-propelled cordless snowblower. I am so happy. Used it this afternoon and throws the snow about 40 feet. Push button director for snow chute. No more turning the rod by hand. What a relief. Have a gas powered sitting in the garage that needs new gas, spark plug, starter and on and on. Doesn’t want to turn over and start. No more gas anything for me. Next purchase is the same in a lawn mower.
I like how he actually showed the end of the driveway - Thats all we users need to see. My older Plug in Sno Joe was great for years and I want to switch to cordless. I do exactly what he does with my corded sno joe... I sit there and beat the thing to death on the snow plow berms. I wanted to make sure the Battery version of the snowblower wouldn't crap out on the mean / wet / icy / packed snow. It looks like it handled it pretty well. Great review :) I'm sold. It honestly handles it better than my corded version (which is the smaller blower than this one)
Paul Thank you for the wonderful side by side video. Very impressive. I have a 40x 80 driveway. The toro electric works well if you use it around 4-6" My wife loves it. I bought a spare battery incase of a long duration storm. When I want to clear snow I don't want to wait for the charger. I have a ariens 28 that's heavy but will go through anything. Love them both.
Very nice! Snow Joe is getting near house voltages!! I have two Snow Joe plug ins. One for deck, the other for drive and walks, going on 4 years now.......Love them!
I am so glad to find your videos! I am a nana of 4 who lives alone in a town house. The HOA only does the driveway apron and not the driveway, but you have to wait sometimes 2 days for them to get to it. I ordered this snow blower online from Home Depot and after watching your videos, boy am I glad I did! It came today, but the top deflector control is missing. I checked the box throughly and it's not there. Home Depot told me to call Toro about the missing part. We are getting a snow storm this week. I'm wondering if I can still use it until they send the part, without the top deflector control. Anyway, I spent the evening watching your videos on how to use this snow blower. Seems like it will do the trick for my driveway and apron. You're a blessing! Thanks so much!
Yes, you can use it. It will make a mess but at least you'll be able to get you auto out. By thy way, If Home Depot has more in stock, just return it and get a new one. They have a 30 day return policy.
That red one is so much better than the blue one but surprisingly although it was heavy snow they gobbled up that snow like no tomorrow without any issues.
I'm writing this just as you made first pass with the snow Joe. You gave the snow Joe a break by throwing less snow the first pass due to toro making first pass.
Thanks!! Think ya sealed my decision on all the toro reviews, thanks for the comments on the Ego didn’t seem to mulch through the snow like a monster as these two did
Hey Paul great video! I just tried mine today for the first time on about 4-5 inches of heavy packing snow on a steep 4 car driveway (35-40% grade) and sidewalk. I must say it was pleasantly surprised! The rear plastic wheels do tend to struggle for traction due to the incline of my driveway.. but given the size, weight and maneuverability it makes for a decent all-rounder. Also, the headlights are absolutely amazing!
Thanks for the excellent review, Paul, and for your comment, Great Drums. I have a steep driveway like you and have been debating whether one of these machines would be a wise purchase. It sounds like the Toro will do the job.
Great video. I have a 23 year old Toro 2 stroke and it’s still running like new. That really means something. Plus it’s made in the USA, unlike the SnowJoe which is made in China. You can always get spare parts for the Toro, even 20 years later after you buy one, although personally I never had to buy any. Still starts after 2 pulls. For the battery models....keep in mind that every manufacturer changes their battery models after just a few years, and if your battery dies, your machine becomes worthless. Also, any battery can only be charged just so many times, they all have a limited lifespan. Toro, as opposed to SnowJoe, also make many gas powered snowblowers, all being 4 cycle now, so they are very easy to maintain. I use Aspen fuel in mine, never goes stale. So, before you buy anything, think about your long term needs.
It started well and I was impressed with the Toro handling this much wet snow relatively easily. But when it got to 2:40 in the video, that is exactly why electric snowblowers are usually poorly performing when it comes to removing dense, packed snow compared to good quality gasoline powered ones. Especially when models like these cost this much ($998 CAD for the Toro). Although it did managed to finally do the job, but not without a lot of efforts on the part of the operator. But thank you very much for this video, Paul ! At last a real test, in real snow to show how these machines actually perform. Most other videos on YT show them removing only about 2" of fresh powdered now, that even the wind could blow some away ! lol !
That’s very true, the toro is not going down in price in Canada , also the scraper bar needs to be replaced every 20 hrs, here in Canada the spare parts for snowjoe are nonexistent, I have a snow joe ion 18 , 40 volt and can’t get the scraper bar unless you order directly from snowjoe in the US and pay exorbitant amounts of money for shipping , will be the same issue with toro as spare parts are not available at Home Depot
You can order your parts for the Toro through your local dealer. I don't know - but I'd also check out toro.com and see if they ship out of Canadian warehouse.
@@wildoneback my local toro dealer (not a big box store) carries parts for my 40 year old snow blower, my 20year old lawn mower and my leaf blower !!! My china crap generator takes 2 days to get parts for. T&C small engines Hampton Ont that's near Oshawa.
Nothing throws wet snow like a big ol 2 stage unit lol, my neighbor just got a new Ariens single stage I seen him out there last snow we got abt 5 wet inches and that ariens was impressive motored right through that slop at the driveways end, am not a big ariens fan myself but I must say it was impressive for a small gas single stage
Very informative video. I would take either. All depends on the battery life. Think that Toro may have a leg up because they have been around longer. However I like the larger wheels on the Snow Joe. Plus in the Ontario we call the snow plow pile the "Windrow"
Thanks for your presentation about the snow blowers. And about your dog situation, I had my dog wake me up to do his business one early morning and I tramped a path to his favorite tree. While I was there, I looked at my WEBER GRILL 26'' and thought what would happen if I lit it up full of KINGSFORD. So I did and it cleared a 20' circle around the yard, where I justed clear for my dog.
I see about ten seconds difference in getting to the end of the lane. However, the SnowJoe had only about a 2/3 as wide of cut. A more controlled and accurate test would be a test where both units make a full cut, not cutting adjacent to a previous pass. Also noticed a strip of snow left down the middle of the SJ cutting path, and quite a bit more noisy than the Toro. It would be good to know how the SJ would have done with the same burden as was given the Toro. That said, I do appreciate the comparison and thank you for your service to our great country! Rock on!
The Snow Joe is nosier because the front rubber auger touches the ground - just like a gas powered single-stage. The Toro uses a scraper bar to clean the snow so it quieter. The SJ's chute also rattles. Nothing wrong - just an annoyance..
Heckin heck! I really been obsessed with these snow videos.. I had recently upgraded to a corded electric unit and it's amazing. These cordless ones look even better. This is truly amazing tech that's out right now.
I have a Toro 7 horsepower commercial power clear and it's a great detailer. still runs good after 7 years after one tune up. I also have a 928 oae Toro that's for larger jobs. I volley that job with the 7 horsepower to get it down to the asphalt.
Nice job Paul, but. Honestly I thought the toro cleared the path better, I thought it threw the snow in s farther and better stream. The snow joe left a middle path with some snow, and was sloppy at throwing. I was surprised you said the snow joe threw better. Because it didnt look that way.
I have been thinking of getting an electric blower. I drive an electric car so why not. I saw a snow joe add last year and thought they look pretty good. I own a gas blower that ran well the last time I started it, but the self-propel is broken. I was pretty good at fixing such things when I was young, but it's been a while. Good review, they seem to clean the driveway well.
I ran snow blowers commercially from 1994 through 2013. The biggest a 420cc simplicity. The most reliable and cheapest. An MTD I bought in 1994. 11 HP. 3inches or less of wet snow crippled the big 2 stages. All wound up in the chute. All the suggestions to lube the chutes are fine for one homeowners driveway. Won't work after an hour much less an 18 hour day. The most effective lube is the teflon dry sprays. Used it on my grandson and his friends plastic toboggans, very bad idea unless the kids are future Evil Knievels. Got some high strung 2 stroke singles. They loved wet snow. This is a 2 year old demo. The new Ego and Toro electric 2 stage blowers have speed controls that increase auger and impeller speeds to make wet snow a pleasure to plow through. But for 6 inches of what he was blowing a 252 cc 2 stage would suffer to the point of uselessness. The 420cc launches this 40 feet only because it's deep enough to grab it and push it through. These electrics are getting pretty good.
You are correct with the Simplicity Pro and MTD snowblowers. They are almost worthless with 2-4 inches of wet, slushy snow. BUT, the game changed dramatically around 2015. Both Toro and Ariens 2-stage snowblowers will handle that sloppy mess a LOT better than the machines you used. I have a Toro 1428 PowerTRX here that can throw 2 inches or more of slush 60 feet! Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/vKeephvHNSg/v-deo.html I will agree a Toro single stage will make quick work of a couple of inches of slush (They don't make 2-strokes anymore)
The problem with the cordless blowers is the cost has to shoot way up in order to cover the far more expensive higher power batteries necessary to get gas-like performance. This was the issue I had with the EGO blower last year when I was in the market for an electric single stage snow blower. I looked at a lot of videos of cordless electric snow blowers last winter. The EGO was the king IMHO. The Snow Joe 40V cordless just didn't have enough power to get the job done under all the conditions I routinely encounter . I suspect this new 100V cordless single stage blower is Snow Joe's answer to the EGO. I finally decided on the Snow Joe SJ627E-BDL corded single stage unit last year and love it! I get performance roughly equal to the new Snow Joe 100V cordless at around 1/3rd of the cost. Managing the power cord is no issue for me. Nice review!
Just bought the Snow Joe, came to your video hoping to be pleased with my purchase (haven't got to try it yet!) and I wasn't disappointed. Thanks for showing it off!
I would like to say that. Thank you for serving our country. I saw the Marine flag on your garage. Plus I would like to say that both machines are great. But don't try to force it through that thick snow by the street. And also wet snow is a pain in the ass. I don't have a snow Joe but I am going to buy one next year. I saw it on TV and I was like. I need one. Other than that thank you for showing us your video. Great job. Keep up the great work bro
Thank you for the comment but my step-son served in Iraq. Living with a Marine Mom means "once a Marine Mom - always a Marine Mom." I became eligible for the draft 2 months after we shut down Nam. I never had the opportunity to serve but I always go out of my way to thank anyone who has.
great review - i would suggest you start the initial pass with the snowjoe where there is snow on both sides, seemed like you had the most trouble with the toro when you did the initial pass. Just my 2 cents
The nice thing about the toro is you dont have to replace rubber paddles but you probably have to push it more to get it to move and replace scraper bars.
Ariens 2-stage snowblowers are what everyone else is trying to match. NO ONE has anything like the special edition models they introduced this year. That said, your question is too general. What models are you looking at?
I have the Snow Joe with two batteries. Works great and is easier to service the rubber impeller when a replacement is required. Snow Joe has a better website for ordering parts to.
Just to be fair to Toro - manuals and parts are also very easy to get through their website and your local Toro dealer. Here is an example of the parts/manual page: www.toro.com/en/parts/partdetails/?id=49962
Thanks for making the videos - they were informative. You made two careless mistakes that you should have been conscious of. (1) On the return pass of the Toro, you threw snow on the part of the driveway that you knew the Sno Joe would be going over. (2) You should have started a completely new path for the Sno Joe instead of running the Sno Joe along the path that the Toro already made. Running along the edge of a cleared path made it easier for the blower. These two things may not have made a difference in your conclusions, but you could have avoided these biases. Otherwise, I appreciate the time you put into this video. Good job!
I did notice that you tend to favor the Snow Joe with "less" snow. What I mean is that, let's say each thrower's opening is 20 inches wide, with the Toro you used about the whole width - 19 to 20 inches. With the Snow Joe you used about 16 to 18 inches. Thank you for doing a comparison.
When I clear snow I like to make only one pass. I don't like to come back a clean up "windrows" from trying to take a full width pass. So, the Toro would clear almost the full width of the intake without the snow falling down and leaving a strip. The Snow Joe was more sloppy and to get a clean pass I had to leave a 2-3 inch gap on that side. The rubber paddle doesn't spin as fast as the Toro so that may be why.
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I have the Sno Joe 2 stage. It was DOA. By the time the replacement arrived, the snow was gone.
I have the EGO single stage. I have never used it. I plan on selling both to buy the Toro 60 Volt snowblower with dual batteries.
I would lean towards Toro as they have a 2 year battery warranty. Sno Joe is only 3 months.
Also, I prefer the steel auger.
I just bought the Toro Personal Pace with 6 amp battery. Amazing!
I had the EGO Select Cut double blade lawnmower.
My first time owning an Ego lawnmower and an Ego.
The Ego was terrible!
The Toro is a dream with the 22" steel deck, Personal Pace, and superior cut. I can't say enough about the Toro!
I got criticized on the Ego channels for telling it like it is! I sold my Ego in one day. What a relief!
Clear, concise, fair.... side by side comparison..... presented in a easy to understand way. Paul.....You nailed it Buddy!! Two thumbs up!
PERFECT type of snow for a true test of electric snowblowers. This is the kind of snow that concerns people when considering electric. Thanks for the thorough and fair review!
A perfect example of how to make a good review of a snow blower, well recorded, side by side from the same perspective video where you can clearly see how both perform, i've seen few of your videos and really enjoy the content you put out, keep up the good work
Of all the battery snowblower videos I’ve seen, you’ve done the best job putting the machines through identical tasks. Your camera angles are perfect… and the snowfall you cleaned up is the best possible test.
Great job friend, an excellent addition to the best part of UA-cam content. Thank you!
I'm an elderly widow looking to get a snowblower that I can handle. Your video was most helpful. Thanks.
This is exactly the type of stuff i like to see on youtube! Rock on my friend
me too!, this guys runs no machine down at all & we don`t have to listen to crap,just a honest review. Thank-You sir.
Thank you sir. I bought a Toro 60V because of your review. It works wonderfully. Really appreciated!
This is super helpful. I’m sick of maintaining my gas two-stage and want a small battery single stage to open up space in my small shed. My fear has been heavy, wet snow and at the end of the driveway. I think you’ve proven to me that the Toro will be a solid selection. Thank you!
You can buy an electric 2 stage as well.
@@SuzukiKid400 Toro is introducing one this year that has speed control that works great.
They are a little slow getting them out. It may be another month before they hit the dealers.
I was deciding between a medium duty two stage and the Toro single stage. I don't have a driveway but an approach to my garage from an alley which is about 8 feet long along with a sidewalk in front of my house and a small patio and sidewalk leading to my garage. After watching your video I decided to go to my outdoor power equipment dealer to have a look at the Toro. The employee was so knowledgeable and he demonstrated the Toro for me. My jaw dropped from amazement at how quiet it is. (My vacuum cleaner is louder). He even started the battery operated Toro two stage for me and that was unbelievably quiet as well. Thank you so much for your video! I bought the Toro 60 volt single stage right then and there!
I don't know why I'm watching this video, but I really enjoyed watching it. I live in San Antonio, TX. We've had snow a couple of times in my lifetime. I'm 65 years old. Lol ☺️
Thank you for your service to our Country.
Great review. Thanks. Today I got the Toro and used it after 6 inches of snow fall. It used 50 percent of the battery charge to clear a 6 car driveway. Very impressive. So glad I watched your review.
Perfect review setup...love being able to watch them in action at a distance to see exactly how far they throw, really the main reason for watching these reviews...appreciate the effort you put in setting this up...thank you sir!
Best review on YT. All these other channels keep putting music over it and you cant hear the machine working. Nicely done.
I was looking for reviews on the Toro. Your double-review was far better than any of the other UA-cam guys, who were only showing the Toro. Thank you!
Paul - thank you for the videos. You are doing a great job in explaining the hands on experience with all the powered equipment you’ve tested. Keep up the good work!
I used a few and the Toro is the only one that hasn’t died. Plus the same battery can be used in other equipment. Ever tried the snow Joe. So thanks for the vid.
Planning to buy the Toro. Wet snow was my concern. I dislike overly long UA-cam videos and almost passed over this. But most of the time is seeing the units run; essentially trying them out from the warmth and comfort of my family room. Cutting through the snow plow pile was a surprise. Thx.
Toro just announced a single stage that ground engaging like the Snow Joe in this video. It has a LOT more power than this one: www.toro.com/en/product/39921
Finally someone who tests with wet snow - the only kind of snow I ever get. Very, very interesting. Thank you for the honest testing!
Thank you so much Paul. I live in Philly and was just comparing both blowers. You did an amazing job on this video and really made it a lot easier for me to understand. Have a wonderful 2021 and thank you again
I had this snow joe in my cart, almost bought it. Saw this video, and then a bunch more, and changed my mind and got the toro. Good review
I found it very interesting as I did not have much confidence in these but I think for a homeowner to own one of these might make sense you don't have to get gas you don't have to worry about the carburetor shellacking up every year and having to go through it
I have been in the south for 15 years now after moving here from New Hampshire. I know this is going to sound weird but I actually miss snowblowing.
Not weird at all. I end up doing my neighbour's driveway because it goes too fast just doing mine.
I LOVE snowblowing! I usually do the whole neighborhood just because I enjoy it.
Totally understand. Snow blowing can be therapeutic ❄
All part of the great outdoors!! I just got the Snow Joe 15 amp 22" model. Did well through a mix of ice and snow.
I'm about to buy the exact same one hope it gets me through these Detroit winters.❄️
Paul, thanks for the side by side comparison. It appears that the Snow Joe can move the snow easier, but the Toro gets a little closer to the pavement. I liked your end comments and battery check. Very helpful.
Thanks for the video. I actually purchased the toro a few weeks ago as we had a pretty heavy snow in Michigan. Honestly, I did not enjoy using it. I’ve gone completely cordless electric with my lawn care equipment, including mower, and I absolutely love it. Would never go back to gas. That being said, the toro snow thrower didn’t seem to have the Performance I was expecting. It was actually more difficult to push it through the snow than my gas powered toro single stage. Also, I have a lot of cracks in my driveway which were like running into a brick wall over and over. My gas toro does not seem to have that problem, being that I can lift it and run the rubber paddles over the cracks and it actually pulls me through the snow. I was a bit disappointed and plan on returning it. I was worn out after forcing it through the snow for 25 min. From just one use, it severely damaged the plastic scraper bar, which is actually worn down and shredded on each end. The scraper bar was not straight right out of the box, each end was slightly curved down and conclaves in the middle so it was mostly only running on each edge and not so much the middle. I took note of that before I even used it, which lost points for quality control in my opinion. I’ve been wanting to order the snow joe but figured I’d wait until you were able to put out this video. I wonder if I should even bother with trying the snow joe at this point. I’m slightly convinced that my driveway is better suited for rubber paddles with all the cracks. I was hoping to get a machine that performs as well as my piece of junk gas powered toro, minus the fumes and noise, but that didn’t happen with the toro. I’m thinking I may just have to put the snow joe to the test to find out. Otherwise, if these are the two best lithium ion snow blowers out now, I guess they’ve not come far enough for me yet. But I HATE gas! It makes my shop smell like gas all winter and that’s what I loved so much about my lithium ion lawn care equipment this past summer. Thank you and we all appreciate the video and reviews.
If you were keeping the snow blower you could exchange it or a Toro dealer would get it repaired for you. (My guess it would be under warranty)
My plan is to use a cordless electric when I get 2-6 inches of normal snow. If it's wet snow like the stuff in the video or when I get more than 6 inches I'll get out a 2-stage and use it to throw the snow way off the drive. I can't have just a single stage because we get too much snow and I also need to clear some lawn for the dogs. I've always said, "If you live north of Interstate 70 your primary snow blower should be a 2-stage."
Three things are holding back electric. 1. Price. Residential customers are not yet willing to pay double over the cost of a gas unit. 2. Battery tech. Lithium batteries don't like high charge and discharge rates. So, we are limited in the performance we can get with these small battery packs. Elon Musk has a work around for the Tesla but the same tech he's using would make the battery in one of these snow blower cost three times what it does now. 3. Price of gas. As long as gas is under $6 a gallon no one will get serious about electric.
Paul Sikkema right on man. Thanks for the reply. Technology will continue to get better and better as the years go by. I’m just happy I can take care of all my summer maintenance gas free. Happy Thanksgiving and have a great holiday season.
@@PaulSikkema Toyota and other companies are working on solid state batteries which are safer (no liquid to explode) and store 2 to 3 times more energy than lithium. Once those hit production electric will look even better.
This is the first time I hear someone dislike using the Toro E21 (i use an EGO snowblower); however, Both Snow Joe and EGO have 2-stage 24" electric snowblower now if you are interested.
@@Jeo-What so does Toro.
The best part is that the auto snow shute button is very convenient by your hand on the snow joe. I like the rubber covered paddles do not gouge my deck when i use it because they are rubber covered.
I'm so glad I found your videos. I had a snow joe once. It did great until the plastic wheels froze and broke apart lol.
Perfect snow for the test, they both did very well.
Good video, good demonstration. You presented the two machine equally.
Thanks
Really good comparison....I was really surprised how well the Sno-Joe did up against the Toro. Also impressed with how well both did with that heavy wet snow. Perfect for 80% of suburbia with concrete or interlocking surfaces.
Both did the same thing I'm ready to get rid of my toro CCR for ninety bucks and buy snow Joe
Looking for a snowblower that isn't to big for me to use and was thinking of the Toro but seeing several videos on this Toro 90 has helped make a decision. Thank you.
Good old Nor'easter on its way.....bought the snowjoe a month ago and just made sure the batteries are charged and ready to go....cant wait to try it out for the first time over the next day or two....thanks for the videos....very big help before I get out there!
Thank you for this demonstration. I would have bought a Ryobi if I hadn’t seen this video. Thanks!
Awesome review where you let the products do the talking by showing people exactly how it performs! Love your videos!
I have a plug in electric Toro 18” Power Curve that I have had for more than 20 years. I have never had to do any kind of repair to it. I hang it up in the spring and take it down in the winter and it’s ready to go. It has a kind of rubber auger that grabs the pavement and I don’t have to push very hard. It has cleaned both powder and heavy snow without a problem. If it ever wears out I will replace it with another Toro!
Yesterday I bought the SnowJoe 24” 80 volt self-propelled cordless snowblower.
I am so happy. Used it this afternoon and throws the snow about 40 feet.
Push button director for snow chute. No more turning the rod by hand. What a relief.
Have a gas powered sitting in the garage that needs new gas, spark plug, starter and on and on. Doesn’t want to turn over and start.
No more gas anything for me.
Next purchase is the same in a lawn mower.
I appreciate you taking the time to do this! Thank you.
Very good video for 80 year old woman in Denver co
Thank you for your APPRECIATION to your subscribers
I like how he actually showed the end of the driveway - Thats all we users need to see. My older Plug in Sno Joe was great for years and I want to switch to cordless.
I do exactly what he does with my corded sno joe... I sit there and beat the thing to death on the snow plow berms. I wanted to make sure the Battery version of the snowblower wouldn't crap out on the mean / wet / icy / packed snow. It looks like it handled it pretty well. Great review :) I'm sold. It honestly handles it better than my corded version (which is the smaller blower than this one)
Thanks Paul. You just made me feel good about purchasing this model Toro yesterday. Very well done video.
Paul
Thank you for the wonderful side by side video.
Very impressive.
I have a 40x 80 driveway. The toro electric works well if you use it around 4-6"
My wife loves it.
I bought a spare battery incase of a long duration storm.
When I want to clear snow I don't want to wait for the charger.
I have a ariens 28 that's heavy but will go through anything.
Love them both.
Great video, thank you for the comparison. I was looking for this exact video. Toro makes the best everything in Law care.
Very nice! Snow Joe is getting near house voltages!! I have two Snow Joe plug ins. One for deck, the other for drive and walks, going on 4 years now.......Love them!
Volts don't matter. Watts and watt hours is what matter. Power and energy
Thanks for doing this video. I'm thinking of buying a battery operated, your video was extremely helpful.
Snow Joe because they always have specials
I am so glad to find your videos! I am a nana of 4 who lives alone in a town house. The HOA only does the driveway apron and not the driveway, but you have to wait sometimes 2 days for them to get to it. I ordered this snow blower online from Home Depot and after watching your videos, boy am I glad I did! It came today, but the top deflector control is missing. I checked the box throughly and it's not there. Home Depot told me to call Toro about the missing part. We are getting a snow storm this week. I'm wondering if I can still use it until they send the part, without the top deflector control. Anyway, I spent the evening watching your videos on how to use this snow blower. Seems like it will do the trick for my driveway and apron. You're a blessing! Thanks so much!
Yes, you can use it. It will make a mess but at least you'll be able to get you auto out. By thy way, If Home Depot has more in stock, just return it and get a new one. They have a 30 day return policy.
@@PaulSikkema Toro sent me the chute deflector, just received it today. Now if I can figure out how to get it on! Lol. Thank you so much!
That red one is so much better than the blue one but surprisingly although it was heavy snow they gobbled up that snow like no tomorrow without any issues.
I’m certainly impressed with electric from your great video, thanks for posting Paul!
I'm writing this just as you made first pass with the snow Joe. You gave the snow Joe a break by throwing less snow the first pass due to toro making first pass.
Thanks!! Think ya sealed my decision on all the toro reviews, thanks for the comments on the Ego didn’t seem to mulch through the snow like a monster as these two did
Good review. I just bought the Toro and i really like it. I especially like the metal auger no replacing the rubber augers which can be a pain.
Hey Paul great video! I just tried mine today for the first time on about 4-5 inches of heavy packing snow on a steep 4 car driveway (35-40% grade) and sidewalk. I must say it was pleasantly surprised! The rear plastic wheels do tend to struggle for traction due to the incline of my driveway.. but given the size, weight and maneuverability it makes for a decent all-rounder. Also, the headlights are absolutely amazing!
Which one did you buy?
I'll guess the Toro. The lights are awesome!
Paul Sikkema yes it’s the Toro! Sorry I forgot to mention it 😅
Thanks for the excellent review, Paul, and for your comment, Great Drums. I have a steep driveway like you and have been debating whether one of these machines would be a wise purchase. It sounds like the Toro will do the job.
How do the wheels struggle for traction? They aren't driven. Do you mean that they wander around?
Great video. I have a 23 year old Toro 2 stroke and it’s still running like new. That really means something. Plus it’s made in the USA, unlike the SnowJoe which is made in China. You can always get spare parts for the Toro, even 20 years later after you buy one, although personally I never had to buy any. Still starts after 2 pulls. For the battery models....keep in mind that every manufacturer changes their battery models after just a few years, and if your battery dies, your machine becomes worthless. Also, any battery can only be charged just so many times, they all have a limited lifespan. Toro, as opposed to SnowJoe, also make many gas powered snowblowers, all being 4 cycle now, so they are very easy to maintain. I use Aspen fuel in mine, never goes stale. So, before you buy anything, think about your long term needs.
It started well and I was impressed with the Toro handling this much wet snow relatively easily. But when it got to 2:40 in the video, that is exactly why electric snowblowers are usually poorly performing when it comes to removing dense, packed snow compared to good quality gasoline powered ones. Especially when models like these cost this much ($998 CAD for the Toro). Although it did managed to finally do the job, but not without a lot of efforts on the part of the operator.
But thank you very much for this video, Paul ! At last a real test, in real snow to show how these machines actually perform. Most other videos on YT show them removing only about 2" of fresh powdered now, that even the wind could blow some away ! lol !
That’s very true, the toro is not going down in price in Canada , also the scraper bar needs to be replaced every 20 hrs, here in Canada the spare parts for snowjoe are nonexistent, I have a snow joe ion 18 , 40 volt and can’t get the scraper bar unless you order directly from snowjoe in the US and pay exorbitant amounts of money for shipping , will be the same issue with toro as spare parts are not available at Home Depot
You can order your parts for the Toro through your local dealer. I don't know - but I'd also check out toro.com and see if they ship out of Canadian warehouse.
@@wildoneback my local toro dealer (not a big box store) carries parts for my 40 year old snow blower, my 20year old lawn mower and my leaf blower !!! My china crap generator takes 2 days to get parts for. T&C small engines Hampton Ont that's near Oshawa.
There is a turn screw on the Toro to adjust the direction that the snow will be thrown: very useful !
Nothing throws wet snow like a big ol 2 stage unit lol, my neighbor just got a new Ariens single stage I seen him out there last snow we got abt 5 wet inches and that ariens was impressive motored right through that slop at the driveways end, am not a big ariens fan myself but I must say it was impressive for a small gas single stage
Very informative video. I would take either. All depends on the battery life. Think that Toro may have a leg up because they have been around longer. However I like the larger wheels on the Snow Joe. Plus in the Ontario we call the snow plow pile the "Windrow"
Yeah these should be fine for southern ontario weather, if you live In st John's, a snow blower isnt the right thing to use
Thanks for your presentation about the snow blowers. And about your dog situation, I had my dog wake me up to do his business one early morning and I tramped a path to his favorite tree. While I was there, I looked at my WEBER GRILL 26'' and thought what would happen if I lit it up full of KINGSFORD. So I did and it cleared a 20' circle around the yard, where I justed clear for my dog.
I see about ten seconds difference in getting to the end of the lane. However, the SnowJoe had only about a 2/3 as wide of cut. A more controlled and accurate test would be a test where both units make a full cut, not cutting adjacent to a previous pass. Also noticed a strip of snow left down the middle of the SJ cutting path, and quite a bit more noisy than the Toro. It would be good to know how the SJ would have done with the same burden as was given the Toro. That said, I do appreciate the comparison and thank you for your service to our great country! Rock on!
The Snow Joe is nosier because the front rubber auger touches the ground - just like a gas powered single-stage. The Toro uses a scraper bar to clean the snow so it quieter.
The SJ's chute also rattles. Nothing wrong - just an annoyance..
Heckin heck! I really been obsessed with these snow videos.. I had recently upgraded to a corded electric unit and it's amazing. These cordless ones look even better. This is truly amazing tech that's out right now.
I have the Toro it is very nice used it for two weeks before my brother tore it up.
I have a Toro 7 horsepower commercial power clear and it's a great detailer. still runs good after 7 years after one tune up.
I also have a 928 oae Toro that's for larger jobs. I volley that job with the 7 horsepower to get it down to the asphalt.
Great comparison. Toro makes some great products an now considering a electric snow blower..hats off to you. Thankyou
Nice job Paul, but. Honestly I thought the toro cleared the path better, I thought it threw the snow in s farther and better stream. The snow joe left a middle path with some snow, and was sloppy at throwing. I was surprised you said the snow joe threw better. Because it didnt look that way.
Thanks my friend, very useful in order to decide which one I'm gonna buy!
Thanks for making this video. Very helpful! Keep up the great work.
I have been thinking of getting an electric blower. I drive an electric car so why not. I saw a snow joe add last year and thought they look pretty good. I own a gas blower that ran well the last time I started it, but the self-propel is broken. I was pretty good at fixing such things when I was young, but it's been a while. Good review, they seem to clean the driveway well.
I ran snow blowers commercially from 1994 through 2013. The biggest a 420cc simplicity. The most reliable and cheapest. An MTD I bought in 1994. 11 HP. 3inches or less of wet snow crippled the big 2 stages. All wound up in the chute. All the suggestions to lube the chutes are fine for one homeowners driveway. Won't work after an hour much less an 18 hour day. The most effective lube is the teflon dry sprays. Used it on my grandson and his friends plastic toboggans, very bad idea unless the kids are future Evil Knievels. Got some high strung 2 stroke singles. They loved wet snow. This is a 2 year old demo. The new Ego and Toro electric 2 stage blowers have speed controls that increase auger and impeller speeds to make wet snow a pleasure to plow through. But for 6 inches of what he was blowing a 252 cc 2 stage would suffer to the point of uselessness. The 420cc launches this 40 feet only because it's deep enough to grab it and push it through. These electrics are getting pretty good.
You are correct with the Simplicity Pro and MTD snowblowers. They are almost worthless with 2-4 inches of wet, slushy snow. BUT, the game changed dramatically around 2015. Both Toro and Ariens 2-stage snowblowers will handle that sloppy mess a LOT better than the machines you used. I have a Toro 1428 PowerTRX here that can throw 2 inches or more of slush 60 feet! Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/vKeephvHNSg/v-deo.html
I will agree a Toro single stage will make quick work of a couple of inches of slush (They don't make 2-strokes anymore)
Great video. If it's doing this in heavy snow. I know the lighter snow is no problem.. well that said . I'll go with the toro . Thanks 💪🏾 🎉
Thanks for the info! Makes the decision much easier.
Excellent videos sir! Thank you for your feedback and information.😊 You've got a new subscriber.😊 I just bought the Toro.
Semper Fi. Thank you for your service.
I'm not but my stepson is a Marine. I will tell him for you. The Marine Mom living with me will always fly the flag.
The problem with the cordless blowers is the cost has to shoot way up in order to cover the far more expensive higher power batteries necessary to get gas-like performance. This was the issue I had with the EGO blower last year when I was in the market for an electric single stage snow blower. I looked at a lot of videos of cordless electric snow blowers last winter. The EGO was the king IMHO. The Snow Joe 40V cordless just didn't have enough power to get the job done under all the conditions I routinely encounter . I suspect this new 100V cordless single stage blower is Snow Joe's answer to the EGO. I finally decided on the Snow Joe SJ627E-BDL corded single stage unit last year and love it! I get performance roughly equal to the new Snow Joe 100V cordless at around 1/3rd of the cost. Managing the power cord is no issue for me. Nice review!
Excellent comparison. I enjoy using my Toro.
Just bought the Snow Joe, came to your video hoping to be pleased with my purchase (haven't got to try it yet!) and I wasn't disappointed. Thanks for showing it off!
I would like to say that. Thank you for serving our country. I saw the Marine flag on your garage. Plus I would like to say that both machines are great. But don't try to force it through that thick snow by the street. And also wet snow is a pain in the ass. I don't have a snow Joe but I am going to buy one next year. I saw it on TV and I was like. I need one. Other than that thank you for showing us your video. Great job. Keep up the great work bro
Thank you for the comment but my step-son served in Iraq. Living with a Marine Mom means "once a Marine Mom - always a Marine Mom."
I became eligible for the draft 2 months after we shut down Nam. I never had the opportunity to serve but I always go out of my way to thank anyone who has.
Impressive video - exactly what I wanted to see! Thank you!
Great review video!! I just got the Toro and love it!! ❄️👊
Neither machine is disappointing. I'm truly surprised they moved that heavy, deep snow as well as this.
Excellent excellent excellent review. I have both of these machines and he is bang on!! Toro glides easier on the pavement so slight advantage there.
great review - i would suggest you start the initial pass with the snowjoe where there is snow on both sides, seemed like you had the most trouble with the toro when you did the initial pass. Just my 2 cents
Great side-by-side video, very informative, keep the videos coming !! Thanks.
The nice thing about the toro is you dont have to replace rubber paddles but you probably have to push it more to get it to move and replace scraper bars.
The scraper bar is inexpensive and easily replaced.
What do you think of the ariens line up
Ariens 2-stage snowblowers are what everyone else is trying to match. NO ONE has anything like the special edition models they introduced this year. That said, your question is too general. What models are you looking at?
@@PaulSikkema these electrics keep up very well with snow per minute too compared to gas models.
I have the Snow Joe with two batteries. Works great and is easier to service the rubber impeller when a replacement is required. Snow Joe has a better website for ordering parts to.
Just to be fair to Toro - manuals and parts are also very easy to get through their website and your local Toro dealer. Here is an example of the parts/manual page: www.toro.com/en/parts/partdetails/?id=49962
Thanks Paul !!
excellent side by side review, well done, I think I like the Toro, thanks a million, cheers from Canada
Well i wasn’t expecting them to work that good.
Really good demo !!
Thanks for making the videos - they were informative. You made two careless mistakes that you should have been conscious of. (1) On the return pass of the Toro, you threw snow on the part of the driveway that you knew the Sno Joe would be going over. (2) You should have started a completely new path for the Sno Joe instead of running the Sno Joe along the path that the Toro already made. Running along the edge of a cleared path made it easier for the blower. These two things may not have made a difference in your conclusions, but you could have avoided these biases. Otherwise, I appreciate the time you put into this video. Good job!
I did notice that you tend to favor the Snow Joe with "less" snow. What I mean is that, let's say each thrower's opening is 20 inches wide, with the Toro you used about the whole width - 19 to 20 inches. With the Snow Joe you used about 16 to 18 inches. Thank you for doing a comparison.
When I clear snow I like to make only one pass. I don't like to come back a clean up "windrows" from trying to take a full width pass. So, the Toro would clear almost the full width of the intake without the snow falling down and leaving a strip. The Snow Joe was more sloppy and to get a clean pass I had to leave a 2-3 inch gap on that side. The rubber paddle doesn't spin as fast as the Toro so that may be why.
Thanks Paul. Great review.
Thank you for the review !!
Great job !!
I guess it’s Toro !
What do you think ?
I got the 80V Kobalt , and love it so far....
great comparison. You helped me make the right decision. Thanks!
Wow both did pretty well. Makes me say "hmm" to my Ariens 250cc blower purchase. Oh well lol. I do have 175ft of driveway.
Thanks Paul ..I enjoyed your comparison tremendously..Heading towards buying a Toro..Happy Holidays
Great video Paul, not sure what I am buying yet but this makes it easier to decide.
yes makes it so much easier to buy a gas powered blower.