Which WiFi Setup DO YOU NEED? Router vs Access Point vs Mesh - WiFi 6E?

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    0:00 Intro
    0:43 The devices
    1:28 The tests
    2:10 Consumer Router
    4:40 Fancy Access Point
    6:10 WiFi 6E Mesh
    8:09 Speed Test
    11:33 Range Test
    15:41 Overall Thoughts
    19:30 Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 162

  • @clintonw1055
    @clintonw1055 2 роки тому

    Nice comparison! I was contemplating an upgrade from Nighthawk to the TPlink mesh - very helpful!

  • @billsmith8339
    @billsmith8339 2 роки тому +24

    Thanks to your explanations via videos, I have bit the bullet and went with the TP-Link Omada pieces - OC300 (a few bucks more than the 200 but has USB3 and built in power), the ER605 router, the EAP660HD access point, and for now, the TL-SG2210P switch. As prices come down and the need for 2.5M becomes necessary/wanted, I think the system will be ready to easily either add to or replace the 1G switch. My main reason for upgrading from an ASUS RT-AC68P router combo was to get better WiFi to TVs/Rokus (weak signal to the other side of the house) and to add video camera security around the house. A secondary reason is that I'm 70 years old now and wanted to have a long life system because I don't know how long I will be able to crawl around the attic! HAHA. The system has POE to help with less wiring, can be configured with a few VLANs (Main, Guest, and IoT), and the speed and bandwidth potential to keep everything going smoothly (I hope!).

  • @techmaster170
    @techmaster170 2 роки тому +3

    I'm running a single eat660HD and it's been an amazing upgrade compared to my isp provided 802.11ac all in one box. I have the wifi turned off on it and just using it for DHCP and such on my network. I've gotten 800Mbps down/upload when in the same room doing speed test on the 5ghz network on my galaxy s22 ultra. Have 1Gbps down/up fiber to the home. Nice review video.

  • @sageosaka
    @sageosaka 2 роки тому +19

    Crazy to see the old router get the best iperf results, even if they aren't real world

  • @Saif_Hakami
    @Saif_Hakami 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you sir
    that helped me a lot to understand the differences among these 3 types of network devices, I was totally lost before watching this vid.

  • @seanpalmer8472
    @seanpalmer8472 2 роки тому +10

    tldr multiple, well-placed APs with a wired backhaul is worth it IMO
    I redid my parents' home network several years ago. They previously had a single AP in a central location in their 2000-ish ft2 house. The problem is it is a long house, and once you got towards the far ends of the house, there were a lot of dead spots. I ran a couple of network cables to both ends of the house and installed a couple of UAP-AC-LITEs. Having 2 decent APs located closer to users has been so much better than a single, powerful AP, both in terms of achievable speeds and coverage. They've had no problems with their setup, so I have no plans to upgrade them to AX equipment. They plan on building a guesthouse in the backyard in the next few years, so I'll have to run fiber out to it and install another AP. Other than that, I don't foresee a need to make major changes to their network.

  • @jays3243
    @jays3243 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video. My setup is the tplink omada er605, 2210p, ax1800 love it and it works very well

  • @AaronSchmidt52
    @AaronSchmidt52 2 роки тому +1

    First off nice video. This was very useful information\video that I can use to explain this to others, with WiFi issues. Personally I'm running an OPNsense firewall/router on BYO baremetel with a Ruckus Unleashed R510 AP. All interconnected Brocade 6610-48P.

  • @jameskurian6914
    @jameskurian6914 Рік тому +10

    Something cool about the TP-link mesh system is that it can be used in access point mode, so it allows more flexibility with where you put your mesh points.

  • @Martin-ot7xj
    @Martin-ot7xj 2 роки тому +1

    Hi there ,litherly it was really one of your best tutorial video . it was useful ,informative and practical video as well . i have to say i like your method whenyou want to show us about your experiment!! its very practical and amazing ,especially when you attempt to show us about average coverage wifi it was very useful ,you have shown us everything in practical , i haven't seen any channel like yours . keep it up . thnx

  • @rjbrowning85
    @rjbrowning85 2 роки тому

    I am running the Netgear Orbi Tri-Band Mesh AX6000 WiFi Mesh System (RBK852). This is my second Netgear Orbi mesh system. Both have been rock solid. However, I am considering moving to an access point system in the future to give me some advanced functionality and features that you don't get with an off the shelf system.

  • @guitargeek76
    @guitargeek76 11 місяців тому

    Great video, and very useful as I'm looking to upgrade from my 8 year old wireless router. Question: what app are you using for the range test?

  • @bigrexxx
    @bigrexxx 5 місяців тому

    I love my mesh system. I picked up the TPlink XE200 mesh system, and with my PC plugged into the hub unit, I get a solid 1-1.2GBPS down, and around 800MBPS upload, using a dedicated wireless backhaul. And it's just a matter of time, before I upgrade to their Wifi 7 mesh system,. for even better speeds. And the great thing is, I'll still be able to use the old mesh units as additional hubs, to completely eliminate any dead spots.

  • @GrantDiffey
    @GrantDiffey 2 роки тому +3

    I'm running proxmox with virtualised pfsense and the omada control software on a j4125 "topton"
    * EAP-620 'main' ap
    * EAP-615 wall in my office
    * 2010P POE switch
    The 615-Wall is a GREAT product for my office it gives me 3 physical gigabit ports and a wifi6 ap on a single gigabit backhaul to my 'network core' they're designed for the hotel/accomodation industry but they're a really neat little unit to have on your desk

  • @snowdog993
    @snowdog993 Рік тому

    Interesting. My setup is a WDS star using wifi 5 ac bridge to main router from other routers upstairs and downstairs. The main router has its own SSID the other routers connect to it. However, the routers themselves have a different SSID than the main. Since using wifi 5sc only for the main, all connections are a consistent 400 to 540 mb. Not bad. Low ping and wire like without wire. This way, there is no crosstalk between points. (To be fair, which is why I did what I did....)
    One thing you didn't mention is WDS.
    Yes, it is slower, but very reliable in my opinion.
    The other routers act as access points and work as intended.
    This one omission makes me wonder why WDS is "obsolete" when it does have a purpose. Amazing.

  • @DeLaMethode
    @DeLaMethode 2 роки тому +18

    I have the three piece XE75 the AXE5300 from Costco. My house is around 6k square feet and they’re all connected via wire so Ethernet backhaul. I’m getting great speeds all throughout the house and near maximizing the gigabit fiber speed.

    • @nycplayboy78
      @nycplayboy78 Рік тому +3

      I too have a similar setup and wired aka Ethernet Backhaul is the hero of the day :)

    • @nrikhy2793
      @nrikhy2793 Рік тому +1

      Great 👍

  • @ssergeant9682
    @ssergeant9682 Рік тому

    thank you for the video. I have a 3500 sq ft home (2 story) with a full basement where I have an office. that area is about 1500 sq ft. I'd like to go with a mesh, but not sure what to look for. totally new to this. thanks again.

  • @MultiRanman
    @MultiRanman 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for this video. Actually, I asked you this question at your livestream a few weeks ago. Nice.
    The one question I have is around security. With most routers you have options for VPN and firmware changes to make your home network secure. I didn’t get the impression that the mesh system had that flexibility.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому +1

      Nah the mesh system is more of a consumer product so no fancy stuff like VPNs or VLAN management.

  • @tjle4900
    @tjle4900 7 місяців тому

    It's awesome video, thanks for sharing!!!

  • @zeddy893
    @zeddy893 2 роки тому +1

    I'm running a UDM PRO (ubiquiti dream machine) with asus routers in AI mesh mode, and it's been rock solid for the past 3 months or so. My only gripe is that because my routers aren't ubiquiti access points, all of my connections appear to be wired lol, but hey, I'm going to upgrade the asus routers to ubiquiti access points in the future, just waiting for them to be in stock:)

  • @donny_bahama
    @donny_bahama 2 роки тому

    Could you use a mesh system in WAP-only mode along with a pfsense router to get all the benefits of both?

  • @dreamingrightnow1174
    @dreamingrightnow1174 Рік тому

    I appreciate that you at least mentioned range. I'm just wanting to go out in my yard and have wifi on my headset/speakers without carrying a phone around or roku in the basement. I guess I'm not the usual case, but speed isn't the biggest thing, it's really throwing the signal farther. I have a new computer with wifi6 and just need the cheapest way to do this. My router's an old wifi 5.

  • @rptaraporevala
    @rptaraporevala Рік тому +4

    Interesting observations. I have a question. Did you have a wired or wireless backhaul? I went from an AC wifi router plus wifi extender to a TP Link AX mesh system (X20). I started with a wireless backhaul but speeds were not too good on the upper floor. So I then added cables and setup a wired backhaul. This significantly increased the speed of the connection near the other nodes.

    • @nycplayboy78
      @nycplayboy78 Рік тому

      THANK YOU THIS!!!! I use a wired backhaul along with a MOCA 2.5 adapter for my Amplifi Alien and Verizon FiOS Gigabit service.....

  • @bluesquadron593
    @bluesquadron593 2 роки тому +7

    Great test! From a NORMAL home user perspective a separated UniFi or TP-Link router+AP combo is definitely overkill. Best to stay with a reputable integrated router/AP. Around 100-150 USD there are plenty of choices and the WiFi speeds are almost the same. Consumer mesh systems are viable in larger homes and for easy of use/setup. For a home lab use it is a different story altogether.
    Just one thing to mention. The TP-Link AP you had in the test may be rather directional. At least for UniFi APs, you suppose to set them up on the ceiling. So if you had that just placed on the flat surface looking up, that may limit the range and signal strength significantly. Of course it is crossing over to the non standard use when you also need to think if the placement and wiring of these APs...

    • @laneromel5667
      @laneromel5667 Рік тому +1

      Walls will attenuate the signal. For me mesh works perfectly, where the router does not. Access points are inconsistent at best.
      You are correct if you have a small living area with few walls.

    • @Savsal12
      @Savsal12 11 місяців тому

      So if I got a wap can I put it on my wall and still get results? Or should it be on a ceiling

  • @nauyv
    @nauyv 2 роки тому +1

    I'm wondering if it is possible or not to connect the standalone EAP660 along with the TP-Link Mesh since they also do Mesh as well to further extend the range around the house and even outside, if needed in case someone isn't doing pfsense, opnsense, etc. I have an older model TP Link Deco Mesh System in my house and it needs an upgrade. It's not too bad, but the speeds are horrible and I have 1Gb up and down fiber.

  • @ozymatic3291
    @ozymatic3291 2 роки тому

    Congrats on the 16k 🚀🚀

  • @dbzforever1986
    @dbzforever1986 Рік тому

    I'm not too familiar with access points but if they can only utilize wireless connectivity I would go for a mesh system especially if you can go with a wired backhaul and you are a gamer. My friend and I both noticed higher download speeds on our consoles using a wired connection to the additional mesh node. Rather using a wired backhaul or wireless connection to the main node.
    I guess it would of been interesting to have seen that utilized in this video as well.
    Great video overall though. Nice to see all 3 options with testing in a single video.

    • @justinrichford7554
      @justinrichford7554 Рік тому

      Hi don't suppose u can help me with my question I just posted?

  • @LeonLamothe
    @LeonLamothe Рік тому +2

    for the price of the mesh system you could buy 2-3 AP which are plugged with 2.5 gb each.... which kinda makes it the better choice in my opinion....

  • @Cmnore
    @Cmnore 2 роки тому

    Nicely done ✅

  • @peterbroad6793
    @peterbroad6793 Рік тому +1

    Love the GN coasters 😂

  • @Capturing-Memories
    @Capturing-Memories 5 місяців тому

    Very informative.

  • @cleverlee2
    @cleverlee2 Рік тому

    I have two Archer C2600 routers created a wireless bridge on 2.4 GHz with 50 Mbps connection range over 300 ft with houses in between.

  • @grege9862
    @grege9862 6 місяців тому

    The TP-Link EAP660 is also mesh capable as are many other of the Omada access points. If you need 2 or more access points TP -Link looks to be a very cost effective and powerful solution.

  • @anniem2352
    @anniem2352 2 роки тому

    Nice video! Are there any mesh systems I can use without a modem? I have fiber internet - no modem. I currently have an older netgear router + range extender. I have some issues with the different connections and wanted the mesh system to eliminate that, but it seems like a modem is required.. ?

    • @Diablomeister1
      @Diablomeister1 2 роки тому +1

      Modem is not necessary with mesh systems, using the XE75 Deco without the modem.

  • @g4egk
    @g4egk Рік тому

    Will you be testing the EAP670? Maybe compare to other EAP APs?

  • @mickeyhouse3641
    @mickeyhouse3641 8 місяців тому

    We have a 3 node mesh system and then a private separate network 2nd router for security and smart home items

  • @brinker50
    @brinker50 Рік тому

    I'm using a single Asus RT-ACRH13 wifi-5 router. I have a 300 Mbps internet service. 16 devices attached, but some of the devices are wired directly to the router. This router is great for anyone with 300 or less internet service.

  • @James_Knott
    @James_Knott 2 роки тому +5

    One thing you forgot to mention, for users with basic needs, the ISP provided router & WiFi might be adequate.
    Also, many access points support VLANs and multiple SSIDs, so if you want guest WiFi and more that's a consideration. Of course, there's no reason you can't have more than 1 AP. Some APs also support mesh configuration.
    As for my network, I have a cable modem in bridge mode, which provides a 500/20 connection, but it's usually much better than that. I run pfSense on a Qotom mini PC, wit i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 64 GB SSD and 4 Gb Ethernet ports. I also have a Unifi AC-Lite AP.

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin Рік тому +3

      "the ISP provided router & WiFi might be adequate." NOT if its from comcast.

    • @James_Knott
      @James_Knott Рік тому

      @@kalijasin I'm on Rogers and have my modem in bridge mode. I run pfSense for firewall & router and have a separate access point.

  • @alexlopez8498
    @alexlopez8498 Рік тому

    Thanks for video 👍
    I have a tp link deco mesh ac1200 my main deco (Ethernet) Speedtest is 500 down 300up but the other two AP my down/up decreases 50% to 70% based on distance so how can I improve?

  • @VoodooGTR3
    @VoodooGTR3 2 роки тому +3

    One day, I want to go OpenSource Router and Firewall. But for now I use several Asus routers. The newest one is the router, while I set the older ones to AP mode. I do not like "Mesh" set ups because you lose bandwidth.
    Since I have an older home, I use MOCA 2.0 as my home backbone. Lol.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 2 роки тому +4

      Honestly, ASUS (in my case running Merlin) are solid choices, and I'm still running one as my main router for now. I would also like to build a new low-ish power router capable of 10 Gbps, or maybe I'll settle on 2.5 Gbps for now (since my Internet connection isn't even to 1 Gbps yet.

    • @bluesquadron593
      @bluesquadron593 2 роки тому +1

      @@JeffGeerling Yo Jeff!

  • @michaelkaylor4779
    @michaelkaylor4779 Рік тому

    We have a 3600 sq ft 2 story home. With a outdoor space we use in the summer. I need to do something different with my Wi-Fi. We just have our iSP modem with Wi-Fi it is no longer meeting our needs. Any recommendations for a mesh system? I’d like to have coverage in our outdoor space.

  • @patg108
    @patg108 2 роки тому

    what about the ever popular BUDGET mesh setup? Aka reuse older/cheaper routers for more range and upgrade with whatever you can get for cheap? Should test with what you have at home and show the results. After all they can be quite common finds!

  • @diggernash1
    @diggernash1 2 роки тому

    Is your Qnap switch managed? Logging into my recently added M2108-2c has been a failure. Switch is working well with the default configuration, but it has refused connection to 4 different browsers with every security feature I could find turned off and all ports open. Frustrating...
    I've tried direct connecting after a hard reset. Connecting with a router and only one pc and the switch plugged into it. I have a serial cable on the way, so we'll see what I can do with putty...ugh. The pains of getting multigig up and running on the cheap...lol.

  • @wavydude5560
    @wavydude5560 10 місяців тому

    Im confused my powerline adapter (Wired) is giving 80mbps but the mesh has an ethernet port on the back which i connected to my console which is giving 466mbps. Is mesh more reliable/consistent than powerline adapter ? I thought powerline would be more consistent and reliable since it uses the house electrical wiring ?

  • @demanuDJ
    @demanuDJ Рік тому

    Right now I'm running all in one device form my ISP but when my homelab has started growing I've realised it su*ks... Now I'm going to build my own router on old dual Opteron motherboard which I already have. Of course It will be OPNsense VM on Proxmox because this machine will also be a NAS (Yeah, I'm concidering about use TrueNAS Scale but I love Proxmox as hypervisor and TrueNAS Core in VM and passtrough hard drives to it can be also a good IDEA), and I'm still looking for access point device to make it all working perfect. Thank you for your advices.

  • @spunky181
    @spunky181 Рік тому

    Right jot just a Netgear nighthawk r7000 but looking at different setups I need WiFi in my backyard and basement I get a lot of dead spots with this router

  • @jeanpersia7348
    @jeanpersia7348 2 роки тому

    Wich app do you use for the range test?

  • @raypeet5777
    @raypeet5777 11 місяців тому

    Very good video! Hi, I have VirginSuper Hub3 here in the UK set in modem mode, allowing a Tp Link Archer C7 ac1750 to control WiFi. Since I got this set up my WiFi has been really stable, however I need to go the Mesh way, after I installed Wireless Security cameras outdoors needing to boost my signal 2.4ghz.. I am looking at Tplink mesh nodes or Tenda nova Would you know how best to set up either using my Tp Link router? Hoping you get this message.. Ray.

  • @MarkoneOnly
    @MarkoneOnly Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @davidcortez552
    @davidcortez552 Рік тому

    So if I have Verizon/Frontier what would work better? Also, should I request a particular router from Frontier??

  • @naeem8434
    @naeem8434 2 роки тому

    Amazing video

  • @bigmaxcc
    @bigmaxcc 2 роки тому +2

    I can imagine the neighbours looking outside thinking “what’s he doing” 😄😂
    Great btw I made the purchase the tp link 6e it really help with so many devices in my house
    Goodbye google WiFi
    Hello tp link

  • @craigunderwood4353
    @craigunderwood4353 2 роки тому

    can I run a extender from my Netgear ac2600? My house is small but cut up, Lot's of wall's. Router is in the front of the house, and we have tv's and computers in the back end of the house that kinda suffers with buffering. We have 1 gig fiber optic

  • @OptimusBananas
    @OptimusBananas 5 місяців тому

    I have about 30 devices and plan to add more is AX1800 enough or should i step up?

  • @waalex11
    @waalex11 7 місяців тому

    I think I'm still convinced with validation that access point would be best for me to extend my wifi range since my modem is stuck downstairs.

  • @Diego-1
    @Diego-1 2 роки тому +2

    I have a doubt about mesh systems...if i connect the Mesh router to another Mesh router "satellite" by a WIRED BACKHAUL What is the difference between connecting the Mesh router to an Access point like the NETGEAR WAX630E?

    • @GrantDiffey
      @GrantDiffey 2 роки тому +1

      The big difference is that both mesh routers will advertise the same ESSID(wireless network name) and do fast roaming between them as you move around the house. (same thing applies to the omada/ubiquitiy stuff

  • @XxEVORxX
    @XxEVORxX 5 місяців тому +1

    Okay I literally need to jsut connect my wifi cameras to keep watch. Would you guys suggest a mesh? I’m paying for 1000 megabits or whatever that is but that should be my internet speed I guess

  • @diegomen
    @diegomen 2 роки тому

    You need to test latency and loss of packets(with Okla speed test for example)

  • @ibitaRaptor
    @ibitaRaptor 2 роки тому +1

    Are you planning to do a dedicated review on the Deco?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому +1

      Posted one yesterday 😁

    • @ibitaRaptor
      @ibitaRaptor 2 роки тому

      @@RaidOwl watching it now.

  • @zacharypump5910
    @zacharypump5910 Рік тому

    Don’t consumer asus wifi routers offer a mesh option if you want to toss more asus devices at your wifi problems ?

  • @Diablomeister1
    @Diablomeister1 2 роки тому

    Deco should give best results if you don’t make any changes in the Deco app on the phone, eg QoS settings, renaming devices etc.. if u use any such feature or make any changes from the phone app - the speeds drop significantly!! Am using the XE75 without any problem!! Just use the phone app to add deco’s & nothing else.. don’t use any other fancy options!! Same goes for all new TP link AX routers and Deco’s..

  • @ericu808
    @ericu808 2 роки тому

    sorry if this is a dumb Q but does Cat 6 and wifi 6/6e have any correlation? I know Verizon just installed a Cat 6 modem with its appropriate Cat 6 wiring in my home.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому

      Not a dumb question at all. There is no correlation, though. Cat6 is great to have in your home as it future-proofs your LAN for 10Gb speeds. WiFi6/6e is a while ‘nother beast that will depend on many factors (frequency bands, antennas, client speed, interference) to determine the overall speed you’ll see.

  • @Martin-ot7xj
    @Martin-ot7xj 2 роки тому

    Hi there , i have a question , can you connect TP-Link EAP 660 HD direct to router without any switch because any router has at least 4 lan port behind itself ! so can we use one of these insted of switch ? thnx

  • @simpletraveler86
    @simpletraveler86 2 роки тому

    what phone app are you using for the distance test?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому

      It’s called iWifi

  • @frisco008
    @frisco008 8 місяців тому

    What would work best for a 12,000 sq ft building, on a budget?

  • @zeroturn7091
    @zeroturn7091 2 роки тому +2

    I’m done with store bought Mesh kits. My home is wired, so it’s back to routers for me. Google really dropped the ball with making the OnHub EOL which was a huge factor in driving my decision.
    I purchased the TPLink Deco W7200, and I am leaning towards returning it. I also purchased the TPLink Archer AC4000, because it went on sale which I preferred all along. The only WiFi 6 device that I have is a MacBook, and the trade offs are:
    dual core vs quad core (I have many devices so this may haunt me)
    speed is debated due to the fastest channel being wireless backhaul

  • @nrikhy2793
    @nrikhy2793 Рік тому

    Great video . The tp link deco wifi6e mesh costs 400 dollars here for a pair. It's disappointing that if you use the 6ghz for the backhaul , you can't connect any 6ghz device sort of meaning that practically its a wifi 5 mesh. What happened to all the marketing and propaganda about so many channels and bandwidth in the new 6ghz range? Couldn't they use that for the mesh and the devices simultaneously?

    • @sharithaattanayake7515
      @sharithaattanayake7515 11 місяців тому

      It does in fact give you the option to choose whether you want to use the 6ghz frequency for connecting devices and as wireless backhaul. It's just set to be used as the wireless backhaul by default.

  • @thecodebuddha7246
    @thecodebuddha7246 Рік тому

    Hi! Thanks for making this video. It's been helpful to create a tunnel to my raspberry pi. I'm trying to make a "cloud" like service by running vsftp on it and I seem to be unable to route traffic to the sftp server running on it. While the tunnel runs fine, I always get a connection timed out error whenever I try to connect to it from any ftp client like filezilla or nautilus. Any idea on how to route sftp connections using cloudflare tunnels?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Рік тому

      Hmmm can you join the Discord possibly? It would be easier to find over there. Link is near the bottom of the description.

    • @thecodebuddha7246
      @thecodebuddha7246 Рік тому

      @@RaidOwl Whoops.. Looks like I commented on the wrong video. Though it shows that I commented on the right one on my desktop...

    • @thecodebuddha7246
      @thecodebuddha7246 Рік тому

      @@RaidOwl Joined the discord server

  • @Jifflan
    @Jifflan 2 місяці тому

    Given that I follow the Omada route. Do I need to get the controller, router and then a AP? :)

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 місяці тому

      Yep. They do make a router/controller/switch all in one device now through

    • @Jifflan
      @Jifflan 2 місяці тому

      @@RaidOwl oooh! Was going to get a NAS in the future but perhaps its the way to go with all in one device.

  • @mainstaymist
    @mainstaymist 2 роки тому +2

    Nice vid, suggestion for the next april fools joke: "Make a whole video but with the audio muted so that they spend time trying to find out why their headphones dont work"

  • @shALKE
    @shALKE 2 роки тому

    Set its a UDR + U6 Mesh

  • @luisgomez-gc3wu
    @luisgomez-gc3wu Рік тому

    I play ps4 upstairs and my router is downstairs what is the best thing I can get to get better connection

  • @andrewtyacke1395
    @andrewtyacke1395 Рік тому

    I live in a truck and caravan with 4g wifi. This has always been perfectly fine. But then I started with smart home devices and the holes started showing. Both the truck and caravan are aluminium and when both vehicles doors were closed I started getting connection errors in the smart devices.
    I figured a mesh system would sort it out so I got a dlink x1870 3 pack. Installed and everything worked perfectly until I shut the doors and hit the same situation as before with connection errors.
    Then I connected the 2 routers with a cable and everything was all good even with the doors closed.
    But now, when the doors are closed the wifi smart devices in my truck for some reason connect to the extender mesh wifi router in the caravan instead of the master in the truck with them and I again hit connection errors.
    I thought mesh systems were supposed to be smart enough to connect to the router with the best signal not pick the one with the weakest signal!
    So all that money spent and the situation has not changed and dlink help don't seem that interested in helping. So I no longer have any faith in mesh (or dlink) and will be splitting it up and turning the expensive mesh routers into 2 different access points. (if I can get that to work).

  • @robm7488
    @robm7488 10 місяців тому

    HELP! EXPLANATION NEEDED!
    in example when you connect Netgear R6700 and TP-Link EAP660 you said that you can get on TP-link 1200mbps on end device but how is that possible when Netgear has 1000mbps wire connection to tplink AP?

  • @James-no2oc
    @James-no2oc 2 роки тому

    For the test did you do multiple attempts and then average them or just run one? I would hope you did multiple test

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому +2

      Multiple and took the best

    • @James-no2oc
      @James-no2oc 2 роки тому

      @@RaidOwl Good to see!

  • @JonathanSwiftUK
    @JonathanSwiftUK 2 роки тому

    Cool, Wifi on Viagra. Anything with a 1Gbps uplink is limited to 1Gbps, so anything claiming to have higher speeds is not being entirely honest. I now have a Qnap switch with 8x 2.5Gbps and 2x 10Gbps ports - for why, I'm still trying to convince myself of that. Do some testing on 2.5Gbps USB adapters - they seem to have problems, I have two Plugable but they drop the network every few seconds - apparently not that uncommon, and other USB adapters also seem to have problems.

  • @crististratienco1491
    @crististratienco1491 Рік тому +2

    In a sense, isn't it better that your old combo router dies off at the end of your property?
    I mean, less interference, isn't that a big factor in how fast our wireless devices connect?
    I agree, the protocol matters, and I appreciate your conclusions.
    In my case, I love my PfSense because of the control, but my 10 year old salvaged TP-Link router does a perfectly adequate job of servicing my 1500sq ft home over two wireless frequencies as a re-purposed pass-through , and I am sure that is the case for many, many of your viewers. Want to save the planet? We need a new (old) way of thinking! Don't get the newest gadget just because it's new. Think in terms of function. Make the best of old stuff, squeeze the most life you can out of it, delay upgrading until slow performance becomes a problem. Unless you REALLY need that mesh system, you don't need a mesh system just to keep up with the Joneses.
    Let's re-learn to reuse and re-purpose, and let's save the world that keeps us.
    Off my soapbox now 🙂

  • @waalex11
    @waalex11 7 місяців тому

    Isn't this a flawed test by default if all three aren't exactly the same?
    I'm still left confused at what's best, but I still think AP's are better than mesh from my research, but I'm still confused how a router with your modem can be better than a AP...

  • @MrBigspendn
    @MrBigspendn 11 місяців тому

    Ok great informative video but we need more of the dog to subscribe.

  • @1st1shot
    @1st1shot 10 місяців тому

    I run two EAP 225 1350 WAP’s.

  • @ghhoward
    @ghhoward Рік тому

    Two Access Point - TP-Link EAP610 - WiFi 6 AX1800

  • @szargos
    @szargos Рік тому

    I love lofts.

  • @laneromel5667
    @laneromel5667 Рік тому

    I tried a 6e router, could not get consistent coverage in my house. I switched to mesh, works perfectly everywhere in the house. Would never go back to access points, or routers.

    • @TheBlooRayChannel
      @TheBlooRayChannel 5 місяців тому

      Which system did you go for? Do you have issues with roaming?

    • @laneromel5667
      @laneromel5667 4 місяці тому

      Deco 6e Mesh, I have 3 satellites in my house, no dead zones. Never had an issue with roaming, just works. Only minor downside, is they are expensive.@@TheBlooRayChannel

  • @donnat2793
    @donnat2793 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video, however, I am an old lady that works from home, and I need major help. I moved to a tiny town in Northern AZ that has no major internet providers, so I am using their top-of-the-line internet service, which is no service at all, honestly. I'm afraid of losing my job because the internet & phone go in & out all the time. I mean it goes out for several minutes every hour, sometimes lasting for over 30 minutes! I can't work from home with this horrible internet, and I have no clue what to do. I've researched mesh, router, booster, etc., and I am more confused now than I was before. Do I purchase one of these items and keep my internet service provider & their router? How does this work, actually? Do I purchase one of these and just plug it into my current internet company's router? I don't do gaming or anything like that; I work from home and watch movies/TV from my computer, (no cable). I would greatly appreciate any help/advise you can give to me. Thank you so much! 🙂

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Рік тому +6

      So your internet going out so often could be an issue with a few things. It could be your ISP being trash, it could be your router going in and out, it could be your PC. If it’s your ISP then nothing you purchase will fix that and you may want to look at signing up for Starlink. If it’s your router then a higher quality router or mesh system will fix it. If it’s your pc then well that’s another troubleshooting session.

    • @donnat2793
      @donnat2793 Рік тому +1

      @@RaidOwl Okay, thank you so much. I got the mesh system & will try that. If it doesn't work, I'll just return it for a refund. Thank you for all of your help. I truly appreciate it. 🙂

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Рік тому +3

      @@donnat2793 Sure thing, Donna!

    • @CRASS2047
      @CRASS2047 Рік тому +3

      @@donnat2793 how did it go? Any better? If not, you should look at getting Starlink

  • @justinrichford7554
    @justinrichford7554 Рік тому

    I have a good gaming router and very confused on what to do for the best. I have my sky Q box and Ps5 hardwired to the router in my lounge but the WiFi upstairs is very poor. I don't know whats best to buy to get the high Internet speeds I pay for upstairs also. I still want to keep my devices downstairs hardwired to my router. Would an access point mounted on the upstairs ceiling work and can I still use the same ssid name and password as my router has? Or can a mess system be added to my router and still keep my devices hard wired to my router? I don't know anything about Internet hope iv explained ever ok. Thank you

    • @dbzforever1986
      @dbzforever1986 Рік тому

      Do you need any devices hardwired upstairs?

    • @justinrichford7554
      @justinrichford7554 Рік тому

      @@dbzforever1986 no nothing needs hardwiring upstairs

    • @dbzforever1986
      @dbzforever1986 Рік тому +1

      @Justin Richford it's probably okay to just add an access point to your setup in that case. I would really only look into a mesh system if something needs hard wiring or you have a way to hardwire a mesh node upstairs.
      You can always get another router and put it in bridge/access point mode instead of getting a whole new mesh system.

    • @justinrichford7554
      @justinrichford7554 Рік тому

      @@dbzforever1986 Ok great. Would the access point be hardwired from the router to upstairs and then the access point just boost my WiFi signal for up there. Would it still be all on the same WiFi name etc so I don't have to go into WiFi settings on devices every time we move around the house

    • @dbzforever1986
      @dbzforever1986 Рік тому +1

      @Justin Richford yeah if you use the access point method, you would set the SSID and password to be the same. If you are able to wire the access point, that would be the best. If not, you'll have to have it wireless as well. But it being hardwired would ensure that you are boosting the signal to the best of its ability.

  • @Obelixlxxvi
    @Obelixlxxvi Рік тому +1

    We have tried TP Link Omada and other access points on mutiple client sites. Below average performance vs. UniFi. We always use wired access point + switch + controller format of deployment. Mesh is always a disappointment when it comes to Indian sites/ constructions.

  • @Jimmy_Jones
    @Jimmy_Jones 2 роки тому +1

    Should have thrown in an ISP router. 99% of people will use that. Just to see how bad that can be. That nighthawk is very high end.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому +1

      True, those ISP routers are usually buttcheeks

  • @danielberglv259
    @danielberglv259 Рік тому

    Comparing speeds of 3 different device types like this, is not really the best way to describe the differences between them. You are comparing the speed of 3 different products, not 3 different technologies.
    They each serve a different need. A single all-in-one router is great for a small house or apartment, for people who may or may not have specific requirements for their router, as it's coverage will be fine. AP's are great for when you have specific demands for your router, one of which is a specific location for it, that may not provide a decent coverage for a larger home. The Mesh system is for people who do not have specific requirements for their router (Mesh routers are often very basic and limited in it's configuration) and also has a house to large for a single router and at the same time, do not want to lay Ethernet cable around the house.
    Personally I use a decent router paired with an AP, as I have yet to try a Mesh setup I liked. Config options are limited, most have only App control and most of the Apps feels like something from Google (They make the worst apps).

  • @arash_misses_papa
    @arash_misses_papa Рік тому

    I compared eero pro 6 mesh Wi-Fi two pack comes with extender I have frontier gig speed fiber optic vs Netgear Orbi mesh Wi-Fi 6E RBKE963B four pack black edition 12,000 spent $2k on the most expensive Wi-Fi I get slower speeds and range with eero pro 6 even I have a extender comes with the kit speed I get when I move 2,000sq from router go to eero pro 6 extender 317 mbps upload 88 mbps Orbi does better everywhere I go I get almost gig speeds when wireless 805 mbps upload 225 mbps it’s worth spending that much cash

  • @Krakenh2o
    @Krakenh2o Рік тому

    Just get star link. One and done

  • @gizmo6746
    @gizmo6746 Рік тому

    Always use acces points

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot Рік тому

    Guacamole....🥑🥑🥑

  • @ANTHONYBOOTH
    @ANTHONYBOOTH Рік тому

    me with big enough wallet simply has all of those, - in TRIPLICATE! :P ...greedy aren't I ???

  • @emenny81
    @emenny81 2 роки тому

    Did you use a 2.5G switch on the eap 660?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому +1

      Yessir

    • @emenny81
      @emenny81 2 роки тому

      @Raid Owl I’m surprised the iPerf test wasn’t better with the eap660, I’ve been thinking on getting couple of these for the house, since my current setup gives me problems with HomeKit. But I’m unsure if the performance is there for these APs!

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  2 роки тому +1

      @@emenny81 Real-world tests show better results but yeah iperf is weird over wifi, atleast in my experience.

    • @emenny81
      @emenny81 2 роки тому

      @Raid Owl thanks for the info !!

  • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
    @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP Рік тому

    Early 2021 I bought an IPV4. Great.
    2022 I got an IPV4 / IPV6 and it's fantastic.
    I saw an IPV6 ad, saved up to buy one. I was camped out in line for
    the new iPhone, and IPV6e came out. IPV8 is being launched in 3Q 2025, so...
    🥴😩🤦‍♂ _Anything_ with a number or letter after the name is a black hole
    for money. Operating Systems, Devices, CPU, Vehicles, etc. are market traps.
    Who remembers the Microsoft Tech, who said "Windows 10 is the last"?
    (then he was quickly let go). Windows 11 is set to generate millions of tons
    of e-waste, because of all the boards without TPM 2.0, do you think Microsoft
    cares? Obviously not. Why can't they just make a "universal" chip anyone can
    use, regardless of Mobo make/model/age? Imagine a hubris State Government,
    mandating that only vehicles with a certain tire can use it's roads, and everyone
    must buy them? Same/same.

  • @walterg6953
    @walterg6953 Рік тому

    WiFi 7 802.11be 2024 7th generation of WiFi, the ultimate online experiencewill be unleashed
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    WiFi 7 accelerates throughput up to 46 Gbps 100× Lower Latency* Worst Case Latency is 100× better compared to WiFi 6 with 15× better AR/VR performance
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  • @jasonrallo
    @jasonrallo 7 місяців тому

    Like Chicken..

  • @thangchanhtech7717
    @thangchanhtech7717 Рік тому

    @Raid Owl lmfao your title makes no sense a router vs AP or mesh wifi. THEY ARENT EVEN THE SAME TYPE OF A DEVICE. A router is a one thing, wifi AP and mesh are a whole different thing.

  • @samuelriveros6446
    @samuelriveros6446 2 роки тому

    If your house is big, then you will eventually need a access point to connect to your main router, or you can just buy a mesh system.

  • @retgi1
    @retgi1 Рік тому

    This is much too complicated for the average consumer!