Most real comment ever, I remember when if u saw a mig29 ur dead cause it was faster than u tryna better than u and the r27er, and now i dont piss myself when I see one cause it can easily beat it
@@Iden_in_the_Rain the R-77 is one of the worst ARHs in the game right now though. Perhaps a historical nerf for the AIM-120A is much needed asap, to make top tier playable for everyone else.
@@garrettobrien5197 4x R-60M + 2x R-27ER > 6x AIM-9L. Somehow switching two of the 9Ls for 7Ms moves the F-16 to 13.0, when they’re much, much worse than the R-27ER.
@@christopherchartier3017 Aye, F-14B is actually worse than F-14A because the Phoenixes are of identical perfomance in the game and Fakours are just plain better. Outside of its Ground RB capabilities with guided munitions the F-14B needs something to help it shine in Air RB.
@@DzinkyDzink The F-14B has better engines and more flares, as well as a better RWR and situational awareness than the F-14A and the IRIAF. Fakours aren’t actually that hard to avoid either, and I’d say they’re a bit better than the phoenix’s. They’re faster but you can still reliably notch/multi path them
@@DzinkyDzink The F-14B has better engines and more flares, as well as a better RWR and situational awareness than the F-14A and the IRIAF. Fakours aren’t actually that hard to avoid either, and I’d say they’re a bit better than the phoenix’s. They’re faster but you can still reliably notch/multi path them
@@christopherchartier3017 Fakours reach targets TWICE as fast as Phoenixes which is a big pressure on timings. That should count for something. And now the F-14B will be directly placed against basic Su-27's. So yeah, give it Aim-9M's and put IRIAF at the same BR of 13.0.
@@V1CT0R_2 and testing as far as i remember, i couldn't find or see if the OVT even has a gun, but its engines could be mounted on the mig29m airframe so, we might get it with another round of drinks at gaijin vehicle addition, i hope not because the mig 31 had also planned vectorial thrust so it will make a lil mor sense to add that, even then if they add the OVT without any gun i would become japanese with it
@@MaxerGamex i think mig 35 cus the mig 31 has 0 relation to the fulcrum line, however the mig 33 could be a premium as its basically a singe-rudder mig 29
It would be cool if you linked the suggestions for all of this aircraft on the warthunder forum. Also the MiG-29M has FAR better flight performance than the SMT and also better than the normal MiG-29: stronger engines, less installed thrust losses because of better intakes, FBW is huge because elevator will do positive instead of negative lift when turning (increases lift for same induced drag) and it also had general aerodynamics improvement (sharper lerxes, bigger elevator with better geometry and longer ailerons to name a few).
Thanks mat for posting a video based on my comment from your last mig-29 video. as it got good views maybe do a similar styled vid for su27, f15, f16 or some other aircrafts
The MiG-29M and MiG-29SMT could all use the IRST as a multirole Infrared targeting system but also as a FLIR targeting pod, not only the MiG-35 could do this.
Germany does have a Mig 29UB same with Russia and a few other Middle East countries. The Mig 29UB is a trainer aircraft with a reduced fuel capacity and everything else is the same to the Mig 29G.
1:12 Well by the German can maybe add a Nato project for an MiG-29G with 8 AMRAAMS (2x in the inner Pylons there the R-27 normalie are ) but it was only a concept
Id love to see more Russian Naval aviation and the addition of the Kocknetsov in the game. Currently if they added any new Russian naval fighters they’d be relegated to the Baku, which can’t actually support them
MiG-29 is already a downgrade in game rn (except for A that one is good, but modtly just for Sim. Yak-141 is honestly better than 29A in RB because of the missiles) And I am pretty sure the Su-27PU/SU-30 will definetely overshadow it, and if we somehow get the Su-30SM we will get an actual thrust vectoring jet too
@@airlightshockZOV Well thats not really worth mentioning there are Su-27s with 14 racks, even if you use the MiG-35 for direct comparison theres no chance and it doesnt come with supercruise either.
What about the Polish Mig-29 for Germany? I don’t know if it’s different from the Mig-29s Germany already has but since they still use it, I’d assume it’s been retrofitted with more modern equipment.
Since snails love to add prototypes and tech demonstration vehicles as prems then it can be Yak-141M aka Yak-43 (exist only on paper, should have 6 pylons instead of 4, better TWR than that of the 141, much higher top speed on the deck and better mid-to-low speed manoeuvrability cause it has delta wing)) or MiG-29OVT (basically 29M with TV)
@@spongegobler3449I've seen one IRL in Poland, and when I asked they told me it doesn't, would still love to see it in game though, I love all 29's. It would be a fox 2 slinger.
Im' so willing to see Russian Naval Aviation aircrafts including MiG-29K/29KR and expect to see them in the game but they have only 32 countermeasures (only under fugelage but no vertical stabilizer dispensers mounted; no references or documents but conformed via pictures of both domestic use for Russia and exported Indian Naval Aviation) will pain in the ass including MiG-35 because it has have same issue as well. In addition Su-33 has only 48 countermeasures... No Fing clues why both naval and modern/upgrade Russian jets are doing this stupid decisions lately.
A truly interesting jet to add, would be the modernised j7 varients. Specifically the F-7BGI variant of the chinese j7e we already have. Possibly a top tier J7. It would basically play like the mig29 ingame but better in every way.
@@airlightshockZOVThere are very few MiG-35’s and Su-30MKMs in service with AESA radars. The Su-57 is also few in number and is barely used. The ‘Su-35M’ does not exist and the Su-35S which the Russians use do not have an AESA radar. The bulk of the Russian fighter fleet are essentially relegated to PESA radars due to insufficient Russian funding/lack of components to mass produce AESA radars for their aircraft.
@@christopherchartier3017 Su-35M is a term used by us, it isnt official, however there are a couple Su-35S platforms using the AESA radar, also there are about 160 sukhoi 30 mkms in service
@@airlightshockZOV So, The Su-35M then technically doesn’t exist yet and “a couple” Su-35S doesn’t really help. Also the Su-30MKM isn’t in Russian service, it’s Malaysian. The Su-30SM is what the Russians use and they only use PESAs. Russian can’t really afford to mass produce AESA radars for their planes because they lack the material for their construction, the PESA is far more affordable
UK could also get the Mig-29k which the Indians use on their aircraft carriers, but I think India should be it's own nation. It's modern day air force consists of Mig21, Mirage 2000, Su-30SM, Rafale, Mig29k, plus the aircraft theyre producing indigenously
IMO the Mig-35 will be the first gen 4,5 in the game cause (russian bias) it's one of the weakest one compare to something like the Eurofighter or the rafale
I just want the Mig-29M and a FM fix for these fighters :( when we talk about the rl mig it dont look like the one that we play on the thunder
Love your videos man, its joy to watch ❤.
rn the russian/ soviets fighters in WT are pretty much SAD, deppresing...
Probably Italy getting the mig 29 sniper as an event jet would create more hype than the iriaf f14. Just how cool it s name sounds.
Or a squadron vehicle that Italy has none of those
wasn't the project canned?
@@DzinkyDzink a lot of vehicles in wt are prototypes and abandoned stuff so not impossible
@@DzinkyDzink well it’s a game, so 🤷🏾♂️
Russian MiG-29M/M2 would be soooooo god damn good. 8 Hardpoints , Zhuk radar , RD33MK Engines , Better flight performance.
I would never fly my smt again if I had the M-M2 variant
Before we get more mig 29s their FM needs to be fixed. Them an the Su27s
Once they move up to a BR where their load outs aren’t better than everything at their BRs, maybe
Most real comment ever, I remember when if u saw a mig29 ur dead cause it was faster than u tryna better than u and the r27er, and now i dont piss myself when I see one cause it can easily beat it
@@Iden_in_the_Rain their 12.7 with R60s
@@Iden_in_the_Rain the R-77 is one of the worst ARHs in the game right now though.
Perhaps a historical nerf for the AIM-120A is much needed asap, to make top tier playable for everyone else.
@@garrettobrien5197 4x R-60M + 2x R-27ER > 6x AIM-9L. Somehow switching two of the 9Ls for 7Ms moves the F-16 to 13.0, when they’re much, much worse than the R-27ER.
Basic MiG-29 needs to recieve its historical R73s first. It's like a Tomcat without Phoenixes.
It’s like an F-14B without its aim-9M’s….
….oh wait
@@christopherchartier3017 Aye, F-14B is actually worse than F-14A because the Phoenixes are of identical perfomance in the game and Fakours are just plain better.
Outside of its Ground RB capabilities with guided munitions the F-14B needs something to help it shine in Air RB.
@@DzinkyDzink The F-14B has better engines and more flares, as well as a better RWR and situational awareness than the F-14A and the IRIAF. Fakours aren’t actually that hard to avoid either, and I’d say they’re a bit better than the phoenix’s. They’re faster but you can still reliably notch/multi path them
@@DzinkyDzink The F-14B has better engines and more flares, as well as a better RWR and situational awareness than the F-14A and the IRIAF. Fakours aren’t actually that hard to avoid either, and I’d say they’re a bit better than the phoenix’s. They’re faster but you can still reliably notch/multi path them
@@christopherchartier3017 Fakours reach targets TWICE as fast as Phoenixes which is a big pressure on timings. That should count for something. And now the F-14B will be directly placed against basic Su-27's.
So yeah, give it Aim-9M's and put IRIAF at the same BR of 13.0.
You forgot ta talk about the MiG 29 OUT that is basically a thrust vectoring mig 29M.
I think it was OVT bud, but U and V look kinda similar so i get it
@@MaxerGamexmig 29 ovt couldnt be added as its only purpose was airshow performing
@@V1CT0R_2 and testing as far as i remember, i couldn't find or see if the OVT even has a gun, but its engines could be mounted on the mig29m airframe so, we might get it with another round of drinks at gaijin vehicle addition, i hope not because the mig 31 had also planned vectorial thrust so it will make a lil mor sense to add that, even then if they add the OVT without any gun i would become japanese with it
wait, was it mig 31 or mig 35
@@MaxerGamex i think mig 35 cus the mig 31 has 0 relation to the fulcrum line, however the mig 33 could be a premium as its basically a singe-rudder mig 29
Mig29 ovt would be nice :) was able to see it at marks airshow 2018 in russia and damn i was even more stunned as when i saw the f22
It would be cool if you linked the suggestions for all of this aircraft on the warthunder forum.
Also the MiG-29M has FAR better flight performance than the SMT and also better than the normal MiG-29: stronger engines, less installed thrust losses because of better intakes, FBW is huge because elevator will do positive instead of negative lift when turning (increases lift for same induced drag) and it also had general aerodynamics improvement (sharper lerxes, bigger elevator with better geometry and longer ailerons to name a few).
Thanks mat for posting a video based on my comment from your last mig-29 video. as it got good views maybe do a similar styled vid for su27, f15, f16 or some other aircrafts
MiG-29S could be foldered for MiG-29 9-13 if not made an event vehicle and MiG-29M could be foldered for MiG-29SMT
The MiG29 deserves its own category on the Hub
Germany is in fact still missing one Mig-29, being the Mig-29GT
ah yes the famous mikoyan gourevitch 29 grand tourismo
A variant of the mig29 that has a working fm is nice
Man the Mig29M would be so nice
The MiG-29M and MiG-29SMT could all use the IRST as a multirole Infrared targeting system but also as a FLIR targeting pod, not only the MiG-35 could do this.
Germany does have a Mig 29UB same with Russia and a few other Middle East countries. The Mig 29UB is a trainer aircraft with a reduced fuel capacity and everything else is the same to the Mig 29G.
Me being destroyed by a mig 29 before I even see it in the crappy overtiered Phantom FGR2
i love these kibd of videos MAT the pictures and the explanations with arrows are the best
1:12 Well by the German can maybe add a Nato project for an MiG-29G with 8 AMRAAMS (2x in the inner Pylons there the R-27 normalie are ) but it was only a concept
Id love to see more Russian Naval aviation and the addition of the Kocknetsov in the game. Currently if they added any new Russian naval fighters they’d be relegated to the Baku, which can’t actually support them
Im not sure how useful further MiG-29s are compared to upcoming Su-30 and Su-27late/su-35 variants.
Well the next mig-29 will have 8 missiles instead of 6 so it will be competitive
MiG-29 is already a downgrade in game rn (except for A that one is good, but modtly just for Sim. Yak-141 is honestly better than 29A in RB because of the missiles) And I am pretty sure the Su-27PU/SU-30 will definetely overshadow it, and if we somehow get the Su-30SM we will get an actual thrust vectoring jet too
@@airlightshockZOV Well thats not really worth mentioning there are Su-27s with 14 racks, even if you use the MiG-35 for direct comparison theres no chance and it doesnt come with supercruise either.
i would say MIG-29AS would be cool
What about the Polish Mig-29 for Germany? I don’t know if it’s different from the Mig-29s Germany already has but since they still use it, I’d assume it’s been retrofitted with more modern equipment.
I hope it will be in the sub box and not like we got in isreal TT as a separate unit (f16c and f16d)
Loved the visuals for this video
Polish upgraded MiG-29G? (they wanted to put AMRAAMS on that thing, and has some western loadout capabilities)
You should do this but with flanker variants next😊
Really curious what they’ll add for russias rank 8 prem. Maybe one of these.
Since snails love to add prototypes and tech demonstration vehicles as prems then it can be Yak-141M aka Yak-43 (exist only on paper, should have 6 pylons instead of 4, better TWR than that of the 141, much higher top speed on the deck and better mid-to-low speed manoeuvrability cause it has delta wing)) or MiG-29OVT (basically 29M with TV)
Do you know of the mig 29 g can use the r27 EA?
Germany could actually still get one mig-29. Its a two seater trainer without a radar. I think it could be a good event vehicle with R-27ET and IRST.
From my research, it should still have a radar. I could be wrong though
@@spongegobler3449 Everything i've read said the 29 UB (9.51) has no radar. the KUB (9.47) however, does have a radar and is a two seater
@@spongegobler3449I've seen one IRL in Poland, and when I asked they told me it doesn't, would still love to see it in game though, I love all 29's. It would be a fox 2 slinger.
A prem mig 29 could be the mig 33 which was a prototype
could u make a vid on the mirage 2kc-s4 and 5 wich when the f14 will go up will be pretty op cus i mean they already are
“Op” you gotta uninstall the game
@@Skinny6539 been playing both alot and tbh if u know how to play them i average 3kills a game
@@Astrofax2.0 3 kills a game isn’t op
they should add the ub to like 12.3 cuz it has no radar and they could slap it with only r60m
It could also carry R--27T
Holy shit steve? Its me the afghan guy
@@FutureGohanGlazeri remember ya’ll
@@paulmiller9767 who are you
what about MiG-29 OVT?
Doesn't the MiG-35 also have thrust vectoring?
no only the prototype did the production model didn’t
@@kurnass2000 Apparently they can still be installed if a customer wants it,
We might get a 4++gen mig before an f18??? Bro wth gaijin
Imagine american got MiG-29 9.13s they bought from Moldova. Or even a Belarusian MiG-29BM for russia.
Im' so willing to see Russian Naval Aviation aircrafts including MiG-29K/29KR and expect to see them in the game but they have only 32 countermeasures (only under fugelage but no vertical stabilizer dispensers mounted; no references or documents but conformed via pictures of both domestic use for Russia and exported Indian Naval Aviation) will pain in the ass including MiG-35 because it has have same issue as well.
In addition Su-33 has only 48 countermeasures...
No Fing clues why both naval and modern/upgrade Russian jets are doing this stupid decisions lately.
Double edged sword by moumting two extra pylons for both MiG-29K/29KR and Su-33 but not worth it at all especially in WT current meta
mig 29 g my favorite jet to fly
Fuck it add trainers without radars
A truly interesting jet to add, would be the modernised j7 varients. Specifically the F-7BGI variant of the chinese j7e we already have.
Possibly a top tier J7. It would basically play like the mig29 ingame but better in every way.
Isn't that basically what the indian MiG-21 BISON is? At the point the this is severely limited by its airframe, even if it has excellent avionics
so in before video u want to put the mig29g in highter br and not for a mig29 with fox 3 missile same br.... nice balanc gg
IMO the Flankers look so much nicer 🥺 Hope we get a good Flanker for Christmas 🙂
Flankers for christmas is the new moto
we can get the Mig 29 UB maybe, I know its mostly a trainer but the Japanese have the T-2 which is also a trainer
I remind you guys: No Eurofighter, Rafale, F-18, Su-30, ARM's = no money next year. Warn Gaijin every way you can!
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I’d pay them money to not add that. That’s just not fun. Low tier is better. Without bigger maps, you’d be dead right after takeoff with 1 kill.
@@warthunderclipperwhat about pub-stompers at low tier?
@@fembill if you’re at top tier, I’m sure you’re skilled enough to defeat them.
@@warthunderclipper true, but still a full squad of players who’s sole purpose is to win and kill at lower BRs can be annoying.
AESA radars was to expensive for the Russian tech tree so they stick with the PESA radar only a few prototype only have a AESA.
The mig-35 has an aesa and so does the Su-57, as well as the su-35m and su-30MKM
@@airlightshockZOVThere are very few MiG-35’s and Su-30MKMs in service with AESA radars. The Su-57 is also few in number and is barely used. The ‘Su-35M’ does not exist and the Su-35S which the Russians use do not have an AESA radar. The bulk of the Russian fighter fleet are essentially relegated to PESA radars due to insufficient Russian funding/lack of components to mass produce AESA radars for their aircraft.
@@christopherchartier3017 Su-35M is a term used by us, it isnt official, however there are a couple Su-35S platforms using the AESA radar, also there are about 160 sukhoi 30 mkms in service
@@airlightshockZOV So,
The Su-35M then technically doesn’t exist yet and “a couple” Su-35S doesn’t really help. Also the Su-30MKM isn’t in Russian service, it’s Malaysian. The Su-30SM is what the Russians use and they only use PESAs.
Russian can’t really afford to mass produce AESA radars for their planes because they lack the material for their construction, the PESA is far more affordable
Ovt???
UK could also get the Mig-29k which the Indians use on their aircraft carriers, but I think India should be it's own nation. It's modern day air force consists of Mig21, Mirage 2000, Su-30SM, Rafale, Mig29k, plus the aircraft theyre producing indigenously
Didn't America steal a MiG-29 and a Mi-24? Waiting for them to be added as premium.
Mi24 early version and the mig29 is already in game
Francafrique would also bring MiG-29s and Su-25s to France
U forgot to mention Ukrainian migs with American radars and misiles and mavericks
IMO the Mig-35 will be the first gen 4,5 in the game cause (russian bias) it's one of the weakest one compare to something like the Eurofighter or the rafale
indian Mig-29k for brits.
mig25 or mig31. enough copy paste nonsense