The Volvo D5 is very common in europe/scandinavia and is a very reliable and tunable engine. Only with mapping you get 290hp and 530 NM. One of my friends V70 From 2008 with the D5 has 950k Km and still runs great original engine trans and turbo
@@vilperi29 yea it is its the same block and head as the D5 only difference is the crant and removal of the bigger turbo on the D5 so just the smaller turbo is used
@@lvchlann yea thats the vgt single turbo so they have som lag to around 2000 rpm the newer D5 from 2010 and newer has 2 turbos one small and one big the bigger one activates above 2500-3000 rpm and full torque at 1400 rpm
I was on my way to write same thing :) the data he says about "few of the were made nad not ton of information" Is not right! It's more Volvo D5 and 2.4D and diesels total then the gasoline T5's and just the standard engines.... Here in Sweden it's more diesels than gas, and you have information about the engines if you want to tune it. Diesel in europe is more common than gas on v70/xc70 xc90. Btw.... My dad had a 07 XC70 D5 it had almost 300k km's on the clock. I drive a V90 D4 now with a tunebox (Promotech) so it should had 245hp /490nm.
…then you haven’t seen his American V8 video yet, where he completely throws any reliability or faults aside and just judges on horsepower. He’ll mention a major fault but yet still rank it way higher than MUCH more reliable engines. Ridiculous.
The VW 20v 2.5 or 07k as it is called deserves to be much higher, in its stock form it quite literally is indestructible and extremely reliable, has some tuning potential as NA but also shines when turboed keeping its reliability. It also has seen longitudinal rwd applications on the old porsche 944.
It also has honda/supercar rivaling headflow, a lot of the audi guys chasing big power actually prefer them over the older turbo engines because once you upgrade pistons and rods they're much easier to make power with than the AAN/3B
I agree but unfortunately the first 3 years of this engine had a subpar timing chain that eventually stretched. I had an early production 2005 Jetta 2.5 that lasted 202k miles before the timing chain finally stretched enough that it ran very rough and stalled when you revved it past 1,500rpm. Despite this, it always pulled hard and never left me stranded. Even when early signs of the chain stretching and the timing was slightly off, it still soldiered on. I dearly miss my 07K Jetta, especially the sound it made. I had both the rear & suitcase mufflers removed and installed a Vibrant Ultra Quiet resonator. It made mundane drives exciting just listening to that beautiful 5 cylinder sound come to life when flooring it.
@@ErosGalaxia It sounds like you got 200k trouble free miles and even after the timing chain was acting up the car kept running. I wouldn't call that subpar.
I was waiting for him to rank my 2.3L Audi coupe GT special build and he never did! It was rock solid for me and I think put out about 140 horsepower. Thanks for the engine code references!
I also don't see the 2.0 10v and 20v being grouped together making much sense. The 2.0 20v and 2.3 20v belong together, also being the first of the bunch to get electronic fuel injection. The 7A is a fantastic, high-reving engine (by the late 80s standard)
My mother also drives a Volvo V70 2.4, the 2007 model. The engine generates 170 PS (168 hp). It is getting old but still accelerates kind of fast. I gotta agree, the engine and the car itself is very reliable. The car was hit from behind by another car. The other car struck the tow hitch of our Volvo. Guess what, no damage to the tow hitch whatsoever, but the other car got a dent on its front bumper. Man, Volvos are durable.
@@ahmet6144 Yeah, turbos strain the engines a lot. And if the turbo breaks, it will be very expensive to repair. It's a good thing our Volvo doesn't have a turbo.
The Ford 3.2 Duratorq can also be found in the T4 and TX4 models of the Brazilian off-road vehicles manufacturer Troller. FIAT's FiveTech 5c gasoline engines were widely available in the South America market inside the Fiat Mareas, both in the 2.0 Turbo and 2.4 Na versions. Although it have a few reliability problems, thanks to the aftermarket solutions this engine (specially the 2.4 NA) is now one of the favorites tuner's engine here in Brazil for very high power applications.
Its worth noting that Volvos modular engine family also includes i4 and i6 engines and those are equally as mechanically solid as the i5 engines. BUT the high hp turbocharged B5254T engine found in 2.5L R model cars have cases of cracked engine blocks. Them being open deck and having just a hair too little material in certain areas for high hp turbo applications creates a weakspot in between the upper portion of the cylinder bores. Suboptimal intercooling is also a factor here aswell as detionation (knock) due to low octane fuel and the hot air from the not so great intercooler. Its common practice to shim these blocks before doing any power increasing mods. The diesels dont have that problem at all their blocks are physically stronger and were cast with more material around the cylinders than the petrol engine blocks. The naturally aspirated engines are completely fine too and the 2.4L engine is not affected as far as I know.
I kinda hate how the highest rated 5 cylinder volvo made also has a low cieling for tuning without sleeving the block. You can put better connecting rods in a 2.3L T5 and run circles around the R motor.
@@GoldenGrenadieryep or get a facelift T5 with the 2.4l which uses the b5244t5 engine which is 100% indentical to a R engine except it uses a 81mm bore block just like the original 2.3l t5 engine and it’s the stroke that makes it a 2.4l. The engine also has of course also has slightly smaller pistons due to the smaller bore size versus the R and the only factory fault are the rod bearings. Swap them out for some better ones and you could run a factory engine upwards of 450-500whp with proper supporting mods and tuning. Neither of which will be cheap especially if you’re in America.
You can make over 500bhp on the B5254 without replacing the liners. Even then, you can get iron liners fitted for £1700 which is nothing compared to the cost of a big turbo build. And then you can make 4 figures with that engine. Overblown issue tbh
Had a 97 V70 with the 2.5 TDI. Incredible engine. 570 thousand kilometers and still running strong only needing a clutch. Wish there was a bigger aftermarket for them.
The D5 engine is a great engine for a daily, good ammount of torque, very low fuel consumption and very reliable and can ealsily be tuned to 230/290hp and 500+Nm. As far as diesels go, this earns high A / low S tier for sure.
A friend has a Audi 200 20V Avant, as a daily with just bolt on parts an a tune it has round about 360HP, I have a 200 20V Limo, with only 270HP bought it with 187.000KM, took it apart at almost 400.000KM for restauration, only minor wear on the internals. In my opinion one of the best engines from the 80s from Audi.
The Gm 5 cylinder has become more popular as of late, alongside the straight six in the same atlas family. People have been boosting them with great results!
I have a '88 VW santana (they kept their name in the spanish speaking markets) with the 2.0l 10v and while it doesn't make a lot of power the sound at higher rpms is just awesome
The OM647 was a updated version of the OM612. The Turbo wastegate was updated to a electic one, pistons are different and the EGR was updated too. Not just sprinter vans though. All the commercial cars had it.
I own an 05 Canyon with the 3500. Took it on Rocky mountain race week in june. The Truck has 308K miles and i got a best 1/4 time of 16.8 @85mph. The Trip had a total of 4340 miles. Trip there the Event "lasts a week" and the trip home. Avg of 28.7mpg :)
Good video my only gripe is the B5252 doesn’t have as much power as the 5254 due to the 10v single cam head rather than 20v on the B5(cyl)25(L)4(valves per cyl) As well as the D52x4T are very common in Europe and are available from 2-2.4L and are extremely tuneable can easily make 350hp on w hybrid turbo. My brother and mother both have D4 cars with 200k miles and only ever requiring belt changes and water pump at service intervals
I can vouch for the Fiat 20vt in my Coupes , I have 2 of them, quite quick and they sound like they look. That off beat cadence really is quite addictive. Thanks for the review, cars that were powered mostly by passion, rather than being a soulless appliance.
1:23 Just want to point out here, that the Vortec 3500 did suffer from having head issues in the early built engines, primarily the ones from 2004-2006. The 3.7 did remedy that issue, but it also introduced other problems, particularly the secondary air injection pump to help with emissions. Not only is that pump discontinued, but its easier and cheaper to get a block off plate and tune the pump out via HPTuners
There were many versions of the 2.5 TDI and there were two "generations" of it- the belt driven cam iron block and gear driven cam aluminium block. The iron block had rotary pump (or commonrail in the VW Crafter van) and aluminium block had PD unit injectors. The most powerful version for cars was the aluminium block 2.5TDI in Volkswagen Touareg making over 170hp and 295lbft of torque. Iron block is an amazingly reliable engine, regularly pushing 500k km with no issues and is still produced and sold for marine and industrial use.
The tuning potential of the OM602 and OM605 are crazy high. Plenty of 300+Hp OM602's in Finland and multiple OM605's running 450+, and this considering that most of those engines have done 500K+ km stock
*Technicality I know*, but it's not really the firing order that determines what the engine sounds like, it's the firing spacing and the frequency of the firing vs the frequency of crankshaft/camshaft. What's actually really cool about this is you can infer what note an engine will "play" based on the cylinder count and it actually works pretty well. This is where the idea of a v10 playing "the best sound" comes from since it "plays" a major 10th
The vr5 only has one head (you said heads), you only notice vibrations at idle other than that it is very smooth (much smoother than my 2.8 30v passat) so i don't know who told you they run rough. My vr5 20v (seat toledo manual) feels pretty much as quick as my passat(it's a wagon and automatic) so i think for what it is hp is pretty good as well. Mine has been very reliable...i'm really happy with it tbh.
My family's owned a 3.2 Duratorq Ford Endeavour (Everest) since 2016- not sure how many miles are on it, but while the car certainly isn't very low-maintenance, the issues are rarely the engine. The sound is also pretty great!
Omg i fucking love I5s, they’re just pure perfection, either when it comes the sound, reliability, customizability, they can sound like V10s but make as much power as a v6 and as much reliability as a V8, and as much customizablity as a V6 or I6
Fun Fact Fiat's 2.4 JTD has a south america exclusive variant, basedo on the 2.0 20V we have a 2.4L N/A Gasoline, used on the Fiat Marea, Marea weekend and Stilo Abarth, producing 157Hp and 21kgfm
From my own and many others’ experience, the D5 has got to be one of the best engines made in automotive history, if not the best. It’s decently tuneable, stupidly reliable and in general an absolute workhorse of an engine. Mad props to Volvo on that one
My mother had a ford ranger with the 3.2 duratorq. It exploded on the highway shooting a piston out of the side taking a chunk out of the passenger side tire. It immediately shut off and was blowing white and black smoke. Then we found coolant in the oil pan.
@@running2redline nah she bought it for 500 bucks used. When we first got it had no fluids, no gas. at the time my mother was in desperate need of transportation and this truck lasted a year and a half in total.
Volvo B5234T3 owner here. 2.3 HPT is very reliable and tunable. With stock internals you can go 300 horses no questions asked. I'm building mine right now. With forged internals. 1000cc injectors Bigger turbo etc. Aiming around 500-600hp Also with Bosch Me7.0.X (that it has) You can do pretty much anything. And what makes it better than some other Modulars is it's 81mm block that can take pretty much anything that you throw at it.
I realise this is about automotive 5cyl engines, but the first I5 that comes to mind for me is the Deutz F5L 912 used in the Deutz Fahr DX85 and 90 tractors, and later used in some combine harvesters. The tractor did have some issues, but those were with the gearbox and fixed in their later production. The FL9 Deutz Diesels are quite reliable, and the air cooled nature meant you only had to keep the fins clean. You rarely ever find any Deutz tractor with a FL9 that's below 10k hours, which is also the case for the DX85/90.
Having experienced the rare r5 2.5 10v in my father's t4, i can proudly say that it is a great engine. It's not the best in terms of performance and the torque numbers aren't very significant, however it has very very low end power, and torque is quite instant. Definitely a great engine
My first car (25 years ago) was "powered" by an OM617 and to this day i would call it "unkillable" if treated like an engine. So i am happy with it being S-Tier. I am a bit surprised that the OM612 is rated so low, given that cars with that engine are rather sought after even today. (old G wagons with the 270cdi are keeping their value pretty good where i live.) And i only heard these engines being praised for reliability. (but that's just me, i'm not a mechanic)
i owned a 2005 volvo v50 with the b5254t3 and ran it with no coolant and redlined it. the temp gauge went full right and started beeping, so i did the reasonable thing and... kept driving. the thing was bulletproof and had 200k miles.
I have an Alfa Brera 2.4 jtd and i agree it’s pretty noisy while idling 😅 but otherwise while driving it has a pretty good sound and also you can get a lot of power with a simple ECU remapping.
The VR5 is certainly the most underrated engine in this list. It shares many similar parts with the vr6 as they belongs to the same engine family ea360, and they don't have major reliability issues. The power figure is also impressive as the EA855 produced a similar figure, with technology of 15 years advance, and 0.2L extra displacement. Finally It makes a glorious sound and has more tuning ability than most of the engines on this list including the new Volvo engines. 500 HP is just a rookie number as there are many many pushing over 800 to 1000 HP examples on UA-cam. I don't see a reason to put this in B tier
@@rinkkalexYes exacly, however by just viewing the engine by itself without taking into account of other factors like so, it deserves a better Rank imo
I have a regular 09 civic lx and don’t want to do a regular k swap, so a 5 cylinder will do, the thing is that I don’t know if I want it high raving naturally aspirated, or turbo, either way yall got any recommendations
The B5244T5 is the strongest of the volvo engines, heavily sought after, and the true volvo enthusiasts agree that it is the engine that the P2R chassis cars should have gotten. It is significantly stronger than any B5254 series engine
Used to own an S70 with b5254 engine, even at 160k miles it was very quiet and surprisingly balanced engine, ran more "stable" than my current 2.3L supercharged m111 mercedes (which has only 110k kilometers)
I’ve owned both a d5 and a t5, as a scandinavian with easy acess to volvo parts in combination with these engines being incredibly reliable and and tuning capable (atm400😎). I can say I’ve really enjoyed them. Plus the cars are very safe
11:10 hey i have one in my 80 B2 CD5S, and even it's not like the nervous GTE (same HP) it's so smooth in power delivery. From 1000 to 4000 it's were you use it most of the time, but past 4k the carb (yes it's just before Kjectronic) open even more and there is the 115hp comming quite furiously until 7k rpm. In a saloon car under 1000kg with the driver, it's more than enough to rival any "normal" car these day. But i obviously would not say no to an Audi 200 180/200hp turbo engine, but C tiere is severe. Plus there were aluminium and magnesium WN block on few rare model to test new alloys for engine block back then, mostly taxis to test relability.
I have 2 of the GM's 1 of each displacement, my daily is now 19 years old with nothing but standard maintenance issues . ( Water pump , thermostat , spark plugs ) the only issue that was slightly abnormal is the vvt oil solenoid , the factory ones had a tendency of eating the screens over the ports and was replaced with an improved design . The other minor issue is that the balance shafts bearings get loose and boy it's noisy when cold . I should do a timeline chain but I change the oil long before the oil life indicator goes off . This was a recall from gm to adjust this in the ecu . Timing chains are on both ends of the engine and is a pain to do .
Can vouch for the Volvo, my 2.4 petrol has 230K miles on it. The only work I've ever had to do other than standard servicing is renew the PCV breather system. Still runs great, smooth and quiet.
I daily drive an ‘09 Volvo C30 T5 R and can attest to the B5254 as being one of the greatest performing and most reliable ENGINES of ANY brand or configuration, period. Since 1984 I’ve personally owned 122 cars of all makes and models, and the Volvo inline 5 is EASILY one of the greatest engines ever made.
The 2.5 from the transporter is INCREDIBLY reliable though, its the only non diesel you whould want to have in it and they arent THAT uncommon to find here in europe
Also, the 2.4d is the best engine you can get for the transporter in terms of reliablility. They can go to up to over 500000km even if abused and neglected, like most T4 transporters were
I have an S70 with the B5254T with 193hp, it is fast as af considering it's HP but thanks to the wide range turbo. It's fast almost full range. I accidentally reached 180kph (110mph) while overtaking two cars casually by doing a kickdown (this one's an automatic) right after I purchased it which surprised me. I expected more turbo lag.
I have this idea to build a naturally aspirated inline 5 engine that loves to rev high. It would have that amazing sound, while being cheaper than a V10.
B5254 Volvo/Duratec engine is a very well balanced 5. Great power and torque, good gas mileage, and reliability. However there is one small thing to note, I believe the 2011-2013 era of Volvos with this engine do have piston ring issues, causing oil consumption. This isn’t entirely a huge deal breaker, but it is to be noted. Surprisingly, it is a wonderful sounding engine, not as good as the tfsi or 2.2 R5 20v, but it is very wonderful, especially if you get a quality exhaust system to pair with it. I wish ford still had Volvo, maybe we’d still have another modern day 5 being produced, but with the new head company that took over, 5’s were gone from Volvo since 2015 I believe, not 100% sure but close to that time.
16:40 I wouldn't call the Audi 2.0 R5 TD's performance figures abysmal in comparison to what was around at the time. To put it into perspective, the '82-'88 built 2.0 R5 TD produces 87 hp and 172 Nm torque (the reworked model from '88-'90 produces 100 hp and 192 Nm of torque), while other diesel cars of that era produced similar figures. For example, the BMW M21D24 from the E30 324d and 324td produced 115 hp and 220 Nm of torque in the td variant and that motor was a 6 cylinder with 2.4l displacement! The VW Golf I & II, Jetta I & II and Passat B2 all had a 4 cylinder 1.6l turbo diesel with 70 hp and 130 Nm of torque. So I'd argue that the Audi 2.0 R5 TD was rather among the midfield regarding power, having an edge over smaller 4 cyl engines in terms of torque. And let's not forget that the old style turbos didn't give you the boost in performance like modern turbos do. The older style turbo was more like an add-on for a naturally aspirated diesel to make it produce less soot. This is also clear if you look at the performance figures, where the peak torque is at a much higher RPM compared to the modern style turbos. For example, the aforementioned BMW E30 324td had its peak torque at 2400 RPM (the 324d without the turbo at 2500 RPM), or the VW 1.6 4cyl at 2500 RPM. Compare that to later turbo diesel engines like the VW 1.9l TDI (AGR/ALH/AHF/ASV/ATD/AXR/ASZ, 1996-2010) which had their max torque at 1800/1900 RPM or look at even more modern engines like the Mercedes OM651 4cyl turbo diesel (2008+) which reaches its max torque somewhere between 1400 and 1600 RPM, depending on the variant.
The 20v R5 (07k) and 2.5 R5 TFSI (07K3/DAZA) are the same mechanical design. The DAZA was upgraded with an aluminium block, and all the supporting mods for turbocharging. The 07K should probably go into A tier because of its sheer mod support alone.
I must say... I have had plenty experience with the Volvo B5254T and D5254T both in stock and tuned guise. I can say they are both incredible engines and think they deserve top of A tier. The 2.4 D5 Biturbo in particular is awesome as it has such a good amount of torque and delivers it in a very petrol like fashion. Also sounds good
The Volvo B5244 is a much more reliable engine than your S Tier VolvoB5254. The Volvo 2.5L is often prone to cracked cylinder walls due to them being thin because its a 2.4l block that was bored out to a 2.5L . The 2.4 L has much thicker cylinder walls and does not suffer this same problem. Therefore the 2.4L should be moved up to S Tier and the 2.5L should be dropped down to A Tier.
My only issue with the B5254 is how hard it is to maintain the PCV system. Most use a cheap, easily-accessible part that is designed to be replaced. Volvo instead tucks a more complicated system away so deep that you have to take off the aux belt, the alternator and the power steering pump just to clean the thing. If you DON'T clean it, it WILL blow the gaskets out of your engine.
I personally would go for the Honda G25A. The other A and S tiers are either pretty old, hard to find, or German (more expensive parts and build). If you’re planning to modify then Honda will always be a good option.
all bulgaria drives D5 diesel volvo engines and everyone tries to avoid petrol engines due to constant oil leaks i am drive 2.5T S80 and it had gasket replacement and now it need piston head seal replacement basically another engine repair it is below 170 thousand miles but for now just keep pouring engine coolant and it burns it together with the fuel no problem with the engine oil or compression.
I have a ford everest 3.2, has 470nm and 200hp, i have 6 digit odometer and don’t have the oil pump issues, and my other fellow ranger/everest drivers i know doesn’t seem to suffer that problem as well, maybe it was on the older generation of 3.2?
The Volvo D5 is very common in europe/scandinavia and is a very reliable and tunable engine. Only with mapping you get 290hp and 530 NM. One of my friends V70 From 2008 with the D5 has 950k Km and still runs great original engine trans and turbo
D3 is also 5 cylinder 2.0 diesel
@@vilperi29 yea it is its the same block and head as the D5 only difference is the crant and removal of the bigger turbo on the D5 so just the smaller turbo is used
agreed. Dad owned a 09 xc70 ocean race and with a tune the car was at ~270hp and 700nm with around 30psi. Laggy as hell but unbeatable off the line.
@@lvchlann yea thats the vgt single turbo so they have som lag to around 2000 rpm the newer D5 from 2010 and newer has 2 turbos one small and one big the bigger one activates above 2500-3000 rpm and full torque at 1400 rpm
I was on my way to write same thing :) the data he says about "few of the were made nad not ton of information" Is not right! It's more Volvo D5 and 2.4D and diesels total then the gasoline T5's and just the standard engines.... Here in Sweden it's more diesels than gas, and you have information about the engines if you want to tune it. Diesel in europe is more common than gas on v70/xc70 xc90. Btw.... My dad had a 07 XC70 D5 it had almost 300k km's on the clock. I drive a V90 D4 now with a tunebox (Promotech) so it should had 245hp /490nm.
The fact he goes and checks for each engines concerning faults, which can involve some digging through forums is commendable.
Much appreciated, I’ve figured who better to go to then those who have actually owned these. Thanks for watching!
…then you haven’t seen his American V8 video yet, where he completely throws any reliability or faults aside and just judges on horsepower. He’ll mention a major fault but yet still rank it way higher than MUCH more reliable engines. Ridiculous.
@@NorthernChev which engines are you talking about
The 2.5TDI is pretty incredible
My dad had an '01 V70 with that engine and it had nearly 600.000km on it with no major issues
And its plenty powerful aswell. I have a 96 850 TDI and that engine servs me very well
The VW 20v 2.5 or 07k as it is called deserves to be much higher, in its stock form it quite literally is indestructible and extremely reliable, has some tuning potential as NA but also shines when turboed keeping its reliability. It also has seen longitudinal rwd applications on the old porsche 944.
It also has honda/supercar rivaling headflow, a lot of the audi guys chasing big power actually prefer them over the older turbo engines because once you upgrade pistons and rods they're much easier to make power with than the AAN/3B
It’s the only reason I clicked on this video
I agree but unfortunately the first 3 years of this engine had a subpar timing chain that eventually stretched. I had an early production 2005 Jetta 2.5 that lasted 202k miles before the timing chain finally stretched enough that it ran very rough and stalled when you revved it past 1,500rpm. Despite this, it always pulled hard and never left me stranded. Even when early signs of the chain stretching and the timing was slightly off, it still soldiered on. I dearly miss my 07K Jetta, especially the sound it made. I had both the rear & suitcase mufflers removed and installed a Vibrant Ultra Quiet resonator. It made mundane drives exciting just listening to that beautiful 5 cylinder sound come to life when flooring it.
@@ErosGalaxia It sounds like you got 200k trouble free miles and even after the timing chain was acting up the car kept running. I wouldn't call that subpar.
In my world, the om605 is S-tier for sure😁
exactly, can take a beating like no other. easily can make over 300hp and torque for days
Über S-tier. Show me a stock diesel block and head making power over 6000rpm❤
Finally. After years of waiting, the 5 cylinder ranking is here.
Thanks man 🫶🏼
Took me a while to get to but had to make it happen. Hope you enjoy it, thank you for your continued support!
You forgot two engines from Audi the 2.3l 10v (NG1/NG2) and the 2.3l 20v (7A) both are naturally aspirated engine
I was waiting for him to rank my 2.3L Audi coupe GT special build and he never did! It was rock solid for me and I think put out about 140 horsepower. Thanks for the engine code references!
and the 2.5 Tdi from the T5
I also don't see the 2.0 10v and 20v being grouped together making much sense. The 2.0 20v and 2.3 20v belong together, also being the first of the bunch to get electronic fuel injection. The 7A is a fantastic, high-reving engine (by the late 80s standard)
@@aerialphotoeutin844And 5pot commonrail 2.5tdi too what is found from Crafter.
He forgot the Audi NM Engine aswell 2.0 20V naturally apirated 157 hp @ 5900 and 147 ft lbs @ 4500
Imagine if they removed a cylinder from the Barra 🤔
Well you can always buy a saw so if you wanna test that out
Then it would just be called the
" Barr ".
A stright 8 sounds fun
Would be very cool. It might still be waaaay too heavy though
Just keep adding a boost, and it will happen
My parents are still driving a gasoline volvo V70 2.4 from 2006, I think they have something like 500k km on it. Insanely reliable engines
My mother also drives a Volvo V70 2.4, the 2007 model. The engine generates 170 PS (168 hp). It is getting old but still accelerates kind of fast. I gotta agree, the engine and the car itself is very reliable. The car was hit from behind by another car. The other car struck the tow hitch of our Volvo. Guess what, no damage to the tow hitch whatsoever, but the other car got a dent on its front bumper. Man, Volvos are durable.
@@se-os6xt youll get the same result hitting any towbar on any vehicle. also the 2.4 non turbo lives longer than turbo because its less stressed
@@ahmet6144 Yeah, turbos strain the engines a lot. And if the turbo breaks, it will be very expensive to repair. It's a good thing our Volvo doesn't have a turbo.
The Ford 3.2 Duratorq can also be found in the T4 and TX4 models of the Brazilian off-road vehicles manufacturer Troller.
FIAT's FiveTech 5c gasoline engines were widely available in the South America market inside the Fiat Mareas, both in the 2.0 Turbo and 2.4 Na versions. Although it have a few reliability problems, thanks to the aftermarket solutions this engine (specially the 2.4 NA) is now one of the favorites tuner's engine here in Brazil for very high power applications.
os motores fivetech não vierem flex não amigo, nenhum Marea veio flex
What kind of problems? Because in Europe we don't have any common issues to report on the 2.0 20VT and 2.4 20V engines.
Its worth noting that Volvos modular engine family also includes i4 and i6 engines and those are equally as mechanically solid as the i5 engines.
BUT the high hp turbocharged B5254T engine found in 2.5L R model cars have cases of cracked engine blocks. Them being open deck and having just a hair too little material in certain areas for high hp turbo applications creates a weakspot in between the upper portion of the cylinder bores.
Suboptimal intercooling is also a factor here aswell as detionation (knock) due to low octane fuel and the hot air from the not so great intercooler.
Its common practice to shim these blocks before doing any power increasing mods.
The diesels dont have that problem at all their blocks are physically stronger and were cast with more material around the cylinders than the petrol engine blocks.
The naturally aspirated engines are completely fine too and the 2.4L engine is not affected as far as I know.
I kinda hate how the highest rated 5 cylinder volvo made also has a low cieling for tuning without sleeving the block. You can put better connecting rods in a 2.3L T5 and run circles around the R motor.
@@GoldenGrenadieryep or get a facelift T5 with the 2.4l which uses the b5244t5 engine which is 100% indentical to a R engine except it uses a 81mm bore block just like the original 2.3l t5 engine and it’s the stroke that makes it a 2.4l. The engine also has of course also has slightly smaller pistons due to the smaller bore size versus the R and the only factory fault are the rod bearings. Swap them out for some better ones and you could run a factory engine upwards of 450-500whp with proper supporting mods and tuning. Neither of which will be cheap especially if you’re in America.
You can make over 500bhp on the B5254 without replacing the liners. Even then, you can get iron liners fitted for £1700 which is nothing compared to the cost of a big turbo build. And then you can make 4 figures with that engine.
Overblown issue tbh
Had a 97 V70 with the 2.5 TDI. Incredible engine. 570 thousand kilometers and still running strong only needing a clutch. Wish there was a bigger aftermarket for them.
Im still cruising with one
That volvo D5 is very common in europe and asia.
Should be A tier. You see them with 300k pretty often
My mum gave me her TD5 Discovery 2 as a first car years ago, it wasnt the fastest vichele in the world but it made a lovely noise.
The D5 engine is a great engine for a daily, good ammount of torque, very low fuel consumption and very reliable and can ealsily be tuned to 230/290hp and 500+Nm. As far as diesels go, this earns high A / low S tier for sure.
A friend has a Audi 200 20V Avant, as a daily with just bolt on parts an a tune it has round about 360HP,
I have a 200 20V Limo, with only 270HP bought it with 187.000KM, took it apart at almost 400.000KM for restauration, only minor wear on the internals.
In my opinion one of the best engines from the 80s from Audi.
The Gm 5 cylinder has become more popular as of late, alongside the straight six in the same atlas family. People have been boosting them with great results!
I have a '88 VW santana (they kept their name in the spanish speaking markets) with the 2.0l 10v and while it doesn't make a lot of power the sound at higher rpms is just awesome
The OM647 was a updated version of the OM612. The Turbo wastegate was updated to a electic one, pistons are different and the EGR was updated too. Not just sprinter vans though. All the commercial cars had it.
I drove a vortec i5 for 196k miles with no major problems before I sold it. Lasted 16 years. Probably still going to the guy I sold it to.
Pretty impressive stuff!
I own an 05 Canyon with the 3500. Took it on Rocky mountain race week in june. The Truck has 308K miles and i got a best 1/4 time of 16.8 @85mph. The Trip had a total of 4340 miles. Trip there the Event "lasts a week" and the trip home. Avg of 28.7mpg :)
The om605 is bulletproof like the rest
Even better than om602!
@user-cr5rh9vl4c yeah I was thinking it's the best of the 5 cylinders, they make a lot of power and are small enough to go in everything
@@danielsvamp he's a great creator mistakes are gonna be made
My old man had an Audi 100 with the 2.1 EA828, it was a smooth engine that loved to rev and sounded great.
Good video my only gripe is the B5252 doesn’t have as much power as the 5254 due to the 10v single cam head rather than 20v on the B5(cyl)25(L)4(valves per cyl)
As well as the D52x4T are very common in Europe and are available from 2-2.4L and are extremely tuneable can easily make 350hp on w hybrid turbo. My brother and mother both have D4 cars with 200k miles and only ever requiring belt changes and water pump at service intervals
I can vouch for the Fiat 20vt in my Coupes , I have 2 of them, quite quick and they sound like they look. That off beat cadence really is quite addictive. Thanks for the review, cars that were powered mostly by passion, rather than being a soulless appliance.
2.4 JTD best diesel ever 🙏
i agree my 159 2.4 pulls like a train
1.9 tdi
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Just want to point out here, that the Vortec 3500 did suffer from having head issues in the early built engines, primarily the ones from 2004-2006. The 3.7 did remedy that issue, but it also introduced other problems, particularly the secondary air injection pump to help with emissions. Not only is that pump discontinued, but its easier and cheaper to get a block off plate and tune the pump out via HPTuners
There were many versions of the 2.5 TDI and there were two "generations" of it- the belt driven cam iron block and gear driven cam aluminium block.
The iron block had rotary pump (or commonrail in the VW Crafter van) and aluminium block had PD unit injectors.
The most powerful version for cars was the aluminium block 2.5TDI in Volkswagen Touareg making over 170hp and 295lbft of torque.
Iron block is an amazingly reliable engine, regularly pushing 500k km with no issues and is still produced and sold for marine and industrial use.
The tuning potential of the OM602 and OM605 are crazy high. Plenty of 300+Hp OM602's in Finland and multiple OM605's running 450+, and this considering that most of those engines have done 500K+ km stock
*Technicality I know*, but it's not really the firing order that determines what the engine sounds like, it's the firing spacing and the frequency of the firing vs the frequency of crankshaft/camshaft. What's actually really cool about this is you can infer what note an engine will "play" based on the cylinder count and it actually works pretty well. This is where the idea of a v10 playing "the best sound" comes from since it "plays" a major 10th
The vr5 only has one head (you said heads), you only notice vibrations at idle other than that it is very smooth (much smoother than my 2.8 30v passat) so i don't know who told you they run rough. My vr5 20v (seat toledo manual) feels pretty much as quick as my passat(it's a wagon and automatic) so i think for what it is hp is pretty good as well. Mine has been very reliable...i'm really happy with it tbh.
great video but I think you forgot that the D5244 was also in the V70 and XC70
It seems I did, apologies and I am glad you enjoyed the video.
You should do a weird engines tier list ex: vr6, w8, rotary, flat 4,6
My family's owned a 3.2 Duratorq Ford Endeavour (Everest) since 2016- not sure how many miles are on it, but while the car certainly isn't very low-maintenance, the issues are rarely the engine. The sound is also pretty great!
Got 165k on my daughter's volvo s40 combined with the 5 speed borg warner. Great engine, reliable and good fuel economy.
love my volvo V70R 6 speed manual, it's 300hp makes chugging along at the speed limit quite challenging at times xD
Omg i fucking love I5s, they’re just pure perfection, either when it comes the sound, reliability, customizability, they can sound like V10s but make as much power as a v6 and as much reliability as a V8, and as much customizablity as a V6 or I6
Fun Fact Fiat's 2.4 JTD has a south america exclusive variant, basedo on the 2.0 20V we have a 2.4L N/A Gasoline, used on the Fiat Marea, Marea weekend and Stilo Abarth, producing 157Hp and 21kgfm
From my own and many others’ experience, the D5 has got to be one of the best engines made in automotive history, if not the best. It’s decently tuneable, stupidly reliable and in general an absolute workhorse of an engine. Mad props to Volvo on that one
OHHH hell no the VW 2.5 07k K engine definitely belongs in A tier at the top. Its a marvelous and reliable motor
My mother had a ford ranger with the 3.2 duratorq. It exploded on the highway shooting a piston out of the side taking a chunk out of the passenger side tire. It immediately shut off and was blowing white and black smoke. Then we found coolant in the oil pan.
That’s pretty wild, would sound like a head gasket. Hopefully it was under warranty
@@running2redline nah she bought it for 500 bucks used. When we first got it had no fluids, no gas. at the time my mother was in desperate need of transportation and this truck lasted a year and a half in total.
I’ll never forget the 2001 Golf VR5 I had, that sounded incredible with a sport muffler, literally a baby Dodge Viper
Im just in love with the volvo 5 cyl, They are really tuneable and still relaible, only draw back is the fuel comsumption
Volvo B5234T3 owner here. 2.3 HPT is very reliable and tunable. With stock internals you can go 300 horses no questions asked. I'm building mine right now.
With forged internals.
1000cc injectors
Bigger turbo etc.
Aiming around 500-600hp
Also with Bosch Me7.0.X (that it has)
You can do pretty much anything.
And what makes it better than some other Modulars is it's 81mm block that can take pretty much anything that you throw at it.
I realise this is about automotive 5cyl engines, but the first I5 that comes to mind for me is the Deutz F5L 912 used in the Deutz Fahr DX85 and 90 tractors, and later used in some combine harvesters.
The tractor did have some issues, but those were with the gearbox and fixed in their later production.
The FL9 Deutz Diesels are quite reliable, and the air cooled nature meant you only had to keep the fins clean.
You rarely ever find any Deutz tractor with a FL9 that's below 10k hours, which is also the case for the DX85/90.
Having experienced the rare r5 2.5 10v in my father's t4, i can proudly say that it is a great engine. It's not the best in terms of performance and the torque numbers aren't very significant, however it has very very low end power, and torque is quite instant. Definitely a great engine
I disagree with the 2.4 jtd, it was the first mass produced common rail automobile diesel, he's very robust, and most importantly, HE SOUND GOOD !
My first car (25 years ago) was "powered" by an OM617 and to this day i would call it "unkillable" if treated like an engine.
So i am happy with it being S-Tier.
I am a bit surprised that the OM612 is rated so low, given that cars with that engine are rather sought after even today.
(old G wagons with the 270cdi are keeping their value pretty good where i live.) And i only heard these engines being praised for reliability. (but that's just me, i'm not a mechanic)
I always love these videos! Can't wait to see what's next.
Thank you!
I have the 1.9 five cilinder in my vw Santana.
It is fun to drive, nice quiet engine but if you rev it up it has a nice sound
3:25 Small note: the first b5254 (97-99) was modified 2.4l modular and not a comparable to the duratec.
The 2.5 TDI was also used in the VW touareg
2.5 TDI PD from Touareg/T5 was completely different engine than Audi/Volvo/VW 2.5 TDI.
i owned a 2005 volvo v50 with the b5254t3 and ran it with no coolant and redlined it. the temp gauge went full right and started beeping, so i did the reasonable thing and... kept driving. the thing was bulletproof and had 200k miles.
I have an Alfa Brera 2.4 jtd and i agree it’s pretty noisy while idling 😅 but otherwise while driving it has a pretty good sound and also you can get a lot of power with a simple ECU remapping.
My daily driver is the 1994 Audi S4 with the famous 2.2 20 valve turbo. It is a one of a kind engine and a car. The original parts lasted 25 years.
The VR5 is certainly the most underrated engine in this list. It shares many similar parts with the vr6 as they belongs to the same engine family ea360, and they don't have major reliability issues. The power figure is also impressive as the EA855 produced a similar figure, with technology of 15 years advance, and 0.2L extra displacement. Finally It makes a glorious sound and has more tuning ability than most of the engines on this list including the new Volvo engines. 500 HP is just a rookie number as there are many many pushing over 800 to 1000 HP examples on UA-cam. I don't see a reason to put this in B tier
People don't care for the VR5 cause the VR6 exists and is more readily available used for swaps.
@@rinkkalexYes exacly, however by just viewing the engine by itself without taking into account of other factors like so, it deserves a better Rank imo
In stock form the vr5 sucks, had it in a mk4 GTi , 150PS
It was gutless didnt really do much at all except for sound
@@philippeichinger3246if you look at the how the list was made you will know it is not about power that ranks these engines
@user-rr3nw8zc4l i wasnt criticising the ranking, only the engine
The 2.5L in a T4 pulls better than the vr5
Way better power band and driveability
Happy to see the engine in my own car in the top of the list, Volvo C30 T5 (B5254T7). Its an amazing engine.
I have a regular 09 civic lx and don’t want to do a regular k swap, so a 5 cylinder will do, the thing is that I don’t know if I want it high raving naturally aspirated, or turbo, either way yall got any recommendations
I own b5234t5 250hp
If I may, the OM605 was also in the 190E, both NA and Turbo. A friend has one, sounds so nice when it revs hard
190D
@SBT300 ok
The B5244T5 is the strongest of the volvo engines, heavily sought after, and the true volvo enthusiasts agree that it is the engine that the P2R chassis cars should have gotten. It is significantly stronger than any B5254 series engine
Used to own an S70 with b5254 engine, even at 160k miles it was very quiet and surprisingly balanced engine, ran more "stable" than my current 2.3L supercharged m111 mercedes (which has only 110k kilometers)
Where is the Honda RC211v? easily the S++ engine. (yes its a Motorcycle engine, bite me. its still the best 5 cylinder engine ever)
I am a big fan of the Fiat / Alfa 2.4 JTD unit .
Goes well, Sounds great, Very flexible, Very economical.
idea: 3cyl engine tier list
I like that, thank you!
I’ve owned both a d5 and a t5, as a scandinavian with easy acess to volvo parts in combination with these engines being incredibly reliable and and tuning capable (atm400😎). I can say I’ve really enjoyed them. Plus the cars are very safe
The OM647 was also used in the W210 and w211 270 cdi models
11:10 hey i have one in my 80 B2 CD5S, and even it's not like the nervous GTE (same HP) it's so smooth in power delivery. From 1000 to 4000 it's were you use it most of the time, but past 4k the carb (yes it's just before Kjectronic) open even more and there is the 115hp comming quite furiously until 7k rpm.
In a saloon car under 1000kg with the driver, it's more than enough to rival any "normal" car these day.
But i obviously would not say no to an Audi 200 180/200hp turbo engine, but C tiere is severe. Plus there were aluminium and magnesium WN block on few rare model to test new alloys for engine block back then, mostly taxis to test relability.
I have 2 of the GM's 1 of each displacement, my daily is now 19 years old with nothing but standard maintenance issues . ( Water pump , thermostat , spark plugs ) the only issue that was slightly abnormal is the vvt oil solenoid , the factory ones had a tendency of eating the screens over the ports and was replaced with an improved design . The other minor issue is that the balance shafts bearings get loose and boy it's noisy when cold . I should do a timeline chain but I change the oil long before the oil life indicator goes off . This was a recall from gm to adjust this in the ecu . Timing chains are on both ends of the engine and is a pain to do .
The EA855 is also used in the Donkervoort F22 with 500bhp
Can vouch for the Volvo, my 2.4 petrol has 230K miles on it. The only work I've ever had to do other than standard servicing is renew the PCV breather system. Still runs great, smooth and quiet.
I daily drive an ‘09 Volvo C30 T5 R and can attest to the B5254 as being one of the greatest performing and most reliable ENGINES of ANY brand or configuration, period. Since 1984 I’ve personally owned 122 cars of all makes and models, and the Volvo inline 5 is EASILY one of the greatest engines ever made.
The 2.5 from the transporter is INCREDIBLY reliable though, its the only non diesel you whould want to have in it and they arent THAT uncommon to find here in europe
Also, the 2.4d is the best engine you can get for the transporter in terms of reliablility. They can go to up to over 500000km even if abused and neglected, like most T4 transporters were
I have an S70 with the B5254T with 193hp, it is fast as af considering it's HP but thanks to the wide range turbo.
It's fast almost full range. I accidentally reached 180kph (110mph) while overtaking two cars casually by doing a kickdown (this one's an automatic) right after I purchased it which surprised me. I expected more turbo lag.
Still waiting for the german diesel list😩
I have this idea to build a naturally aspirated inline 5 engine that loves to rev high. It would have that amazing sound, while being cheaper than a V10.
B5254 Volvo/Duratec engine is a very well balanced 5. Great power and torque, good gas mileage, and reliability. However there is one small thing to note, I believe the 2011-2013 era of Volvos with this engine do have piston ring issues, causing oil consumption. This isn’t entirely a huge deal breaker, but it is to be noted. Surprisingly, it is a wonderful sounding engine, not as good as the tfsi or 2.2 R5 20v, but it is very wonderful, especially if you get a quality exhaust system to pair with it. I wish ford still had Volvo, maybe we’d still have another modern day 5 being produced, but with the new head company that took over, 5’s were gone from Volvo since 2015 I believe, not 100% sure but close to that time.
I used to see a v5 vw golf nearly every day driving to work. Not seen it for a while now.
16:40 I wouldn't call the Audi 2.0 R5 TD's performance figures abysmal in comparison to what was around at the time. To put it into perspective, the '82-'88 built 2.0 R5 TD produces 87 hp and 172 Nm torque (the reworked model from '88-'90 produces 100 hp and 192 Nm of torque), while other diesel cars of that era produced similar figures. For example, the BMW M21D24 from the E30 324d and 324td produced 115 hp and 220 Nm of torque in the td variant and that motor was a 6 cylinder with 2.4l displacement! The VW Golf I & II, Jetta I & II and Passat B2 all had a 4 cylinder 1.6l turbo diesel with 70 hp and 130 Nm of torque. So I'd argue that the Audi 2.0 R5 TD was rather among the midfield regarding power, having an edge over smaller 4 cyl engines in terms of torque.
And let's not forget that the old style turbos didn't give you the boost in performance like modern turbos do. The older style turbo was more like an add-on for a naturally aspirated diesel to make it produce less soot. This is also clear if you look at the performance figures, where the peak torque is at a much higher RPM compared to the modern style turbos. For example, the aforementioned BMW E30 324td had its peak torque at 2400 RPM (the 324d without the turbo at 2500 RPM), or the VW 1.6 4cyl at 2500 RPM. Compare that to later turbo diesel engines like the VW 1.9l TDI (AGR/ALH/AHF/ASV/ATD/AXR/ASZ, 1996-2010) which had their max torque at 1800/1900 RPM or look at even more modern engines like the Mercedes OM651 4cyl turbo diesel (2008+) which reaches its max torque somewhere between 1400 and 1600 RPM, depending on the variant.
Great Video Bro
I greatly appreciate that, thank you!
The 20v R5 (07k) and 2.5 R5 TFSI (07K3/DAZA) are the same mechanical design. The DAZA was upgraded with an aluminium block, and all the supporting mods for turbocharging.
The 07K should probably go into A tier because of its sheer mod support alone.
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do you know how giddy you make me feel hearing you prase this engine, knowing I have one in my driveway :DD
Lucky you, that’s a great engine!
Love these videos!
Much appreciated, glad you enjoyed!
I must say... I have had plenty experience with the Volvo B5254T and D5254T both in stock and tuned guise. I can say they are both incredible engines and think they deserve top of A tier. The 2.4 D5 Biturbo in particular is awesome as it has such a good amount of torque and delivers it in a very petrol like fashion. Also sounds good
Bro sis the om605 dirty
Fair enough, wouldn’t have minded it higher
I5's are my second favorite engine configuration after boxer 6's.
The Volvo B5244 is a much more reliable engine than your S Tier VolvoB5254. The Volvo 2.5L is often prone to cracked cylinder walls due to them being thin because its a 2.4l block that was bored out to a 2.5L . The 2.4 L has much thicker cylinder walls and does not suffer this same problem. Therefore the 2.4L should be moved up to S Tier and the 2.5L should be dropped down to A Tier.
I missed that info, and agree that change would be justified. Thank you
These are my favorite engine setup, i have owned several volvo i5
Volvo was the first Company to put a five cylinder transversely into an FWD production car
Those om605 engines are super reliable and are great with tuning same with its famous powerful brother called the om606.
The D5 came in the V70 as well, very strong engine; easily mapped
My only issue with the B5254 is how hard it is to maintain the PCV system. Most use a cheap, easily-accessible part that is designed to be replaced.
Volvo instead tucks a more complicated system away so deep that you have to take off the aux belt, the alternator and the power steering pump just to clean the thing. If you DON'T clean it, it WILL blow the gaskets out of your engine.
This may be unique to the 01-07 XC70s
I`ve got 2 more I5 from VW: 2.5 PD TDI(Touareg, T5) and 2.5 CR TDI(Crafter).
Also VW’s 10v diesel is used in Volvo 850 TDi and early v70 TDi with many examples exceeding well over 1 million miles
if i wanted a budget 5 cylinder that could handle alot of power/ or is extremely tunable which one should i go for?
I personally would go for the Honda G25A. The other A and S tiers are either pretty old, hard to find, or German (more expensive parts and build). If you’re planning to modify then Honda will always be a good option.
@@running2redline I did a little googling and not a lot of people build these motors and there’s almost 0 aftermarket support
The vortec 3500/3700 could push like 400-500hp before u have to start upgrading internals
@@buildmanepic3850 any proof?
I have the vortec 3500, awesome engine and sounds so cool
What about the TDI 5 cylinder from the transporter that made close to 180 hp
Can I just say, the B5234 alone should've gotten into S-Tier
It's SUCH a good engine, makes good power on stock and can be modified so well 🥺
all bulgaria drives D5 diesel volvo engines and everyone tries to avoid petrol engines due to constant oil leaks i am drive 2.5T S80 and it had gasket replacement and now it need piston head seal replacement basically another engine repair it is below 170 thousand miles but for now just keep pouring engine coolant and it burns it together with the fuel no problem with the engine oil or compression.
Can you add metric nm torque information
I have a ford everest 3.2, has 470nm and 200hp, i have 6 digit odometer and don’t have the oil pump issues, and my other fellow ranger/everest drivers i know doesn’t seem to suffer that problem as well, maybe it was on the older generation of 3.2?