Great video Mons. What you said about picking a deck you enjoy is correct. I've just played Lonis (would fit into your midrange list btw) forr the first time and had a blast. By far not the best cedh deck but a lot of fun and I will absolutely be playing more of it.
Hey Mons, I was wondering if you could give your opinion on Raffine as a CEDH commander now that she's been out for a while? Thanks, always love the videos and get excited when I get that notification that another one has dropped
@@cedhtvThanks for the response! yeah, I did watch it, but I sort of wanted to hear of you had any new opinions on her since she's been tested quite a bit now.
An alternative to Jeleva (under mill/steal, and also control) is Evelyn, the Covetous. Winning with WGD at instant speed is the big upside, as well as playing a better control game (since she has flash and inherently synergizes best with instant speed stuff with her 1/turn limitation.)
@@cedhtv turbo for sure. From my experience you do not want to be playing defensively if you can help it. On occasion there is reason to be toolbox but overall. TURBO!
I love this, but I'm curious where you place Toxrill as I made my cEDH deck with this commander. Personally I think it sits somewhere between midrange and control.
I’d love to know how inalla works. I also have a pretty cool deck idea I’d like to share with cedh players to see if they can break it. I know there’s a way but I can’t seem to figure it out.
Amazing video as usual, may i ask for your opinion on kykar? Im playing him in lots of different ways, but i feel that sometimes he is kind of incosistent in CEDH. Thank you so much for everything ! I learn lots of new things with each video :)
I was thinking about adding it to the storm and turbo but honestly. It is not really a cEDH commander I belive in. Sorry. Kykar feels like it kinda works. But I dont know if I wanna recommend him. But you can win games for sure.
Scion is a grave combo commander imo. it really wants to get to worldgorger and antimate dead/necromancy. this plus a etb effect like desert to ping out. its more fringe cEDH/High power. It is too easy to disrupt with staples in cEDH to make it past teir 2 cEDH. The other back up plans i have seen of molton skittles, hermit druid and others just seem sub par.
I added in stax into midrange but forgot to say that. I dont know what you mean with Parasitic. Or I have an idea what you mean but what I think it is is not an archtype.
Midrange means low to mid cost creatures to controll the game. toolbox means the ability to find answers depending on what you go up vs. Usally search. Commanders that can search deck are toolbox commanders. A box of tools.
This was great. Now we need a video for commanders that don't fit into any specific archetype, but are cEDH viable
There actually are a few when I think of it.
Thanks for all you do. Much appreciative.
Oh thank you!
The rest evolution of this channel (past 1.5ys) is amazing to watch
Great video Mons.
What you said about picking a deck you enjoy is correct.
I've just played Lonis (would fit into your midrange list btw) forr the first time and had a blast. By far not the best cedh deck but a lot of fun and I will absolutely be playing more of it.
I actually think Lonis is decent. Could have mentioned him in this video I think.
@@cedhtv it's a very fun deck. I don't think it's as strong as a Thrasios + another partner like Bruse but it's definitely a great deck
Great video, I could see stax included with Winota and Derevi
I decided during the video that midrange and stax would come hand in hand. I forgot to say that in the video tho. Midrange and stax are kinda similar.
I'd say ishai jeska is a voltron storm deck. Great video really enjoyed this one
Lot of cool ideas here, thanks!
I've been working twoards a mill deck leveraging petitioners for consistency, & GAaIV for Cost reduction. I started out in 60 card magic playing mill
I love your intro!!!!!!
Thank you.
You definitely forgot krrik in the turbo section.
ah true!
Magda Gang! Also I feel jeska//Ishai would be like voltron/turbo i guess. (First!)
Oh yes I forgot about that bird. Sooo many commanders.
Hey Mons, I was wondering if you could give your opinion on Raffine as a CEDH commander now that she's been out for a while? Thanks, always love the videos and get excited when I get that notification that another one has dropped
I have made a review for her. ua-cam.com/video/sfotMjbekow/v-deo.html but here is a link for that.
@@cedhtvThanks for the response! yeah, I did watch it, but I sort of wanted to hear of you had any new opinions on her since she's been tested quite a bit now.
An alternative to Jeleva (under mill/steal, and also control) is Evelyn, the Covetous. Winning with WGD at instant speed is the big upside, as well as playing a better control game (since she has flash and inherently synergizes best with instant speed stuff with her 1/turn limitation.)
No rocco mention? He's my favorite commander as of late
ah yes. I did forget him. He should be in the toolbox section. But also honestly the turbo combo section too.
@@cedhtv turbo for sure. From my experience you do not want to be playing defensively if you can help it. On occasion there is reason to be toolbox but overall. TURBO!
I love this, but I'm curious where you place Toxrill as I made my cEDH deck with this commander. Personally I think it sits somewhere between midrange and control.
Correct. It is kinda both.
Stax?
I was disappointed to not see k'rrik in turbo. A turbo build of k'rrik is super fast
There are soo many commanders that I just have to forget some of them. I forgot about krrik.
Stax! Love me some white hate bears :)
I’d love to know how inalla works. I also have a pretty cool deck idea I’d like to share with cedh players to see if they can break it. I know there’s a way but I can’t seem to figure it out.
Im trying out Wyleth as a voltron commander. Also building Kibo the BANANA KING
Do you have a Primer or Deck tech for Jeleva Mill for 2023? I've got a Jeleva from C13 just sitting on my shelf for 10 years now.😥
sorry late respones Yes I do. ua-cam.com/video/IdcbfXUY_0Y/v-deo.html here you go.
@@cedhtv thanks mons!
How about Tivit?
Little sad you forgot our new froggy boy for mill.
That is self mill.
@@cedhtv Facts, still mill though
ok sure it still is mill.
Amazing video as usual, may i ask for your opinion on kykar? Im playing him in lots of different ways, but i feel that sometimes he is kind of incosistent in CEDH. Thank you so much for everything ! I learn lots of new things with each video :)
I was thinking about adding it to the storm and turbo but honestly. It is not really a cEDH commander I belive in. Sorry. Kykar feels like it kinda works. But I dont know if I wanna recommend him. But you can win games for sure.
Wait, where is the murderbird in the voltron section?! No other commander took as many lives in cedh
I forgot to mention that one.
Scion is a grave combo commander imo. it really wants to get to worldgorger and antimate dead/necromancy. this plus a etb effect like desert to ping out. its more fringe cEDH/High power. It is too easy to disrupt with staples in cEDH to make it past teir 2 cEDH. The other back up plans i have seen of molton skittles, hermit druid and others just seem sub par.
I'm surprised you didn't list Sliver Overlord as a toolbox commander.
It is not that good tho.
@@cedhtv ...fair point.
Great video, but needed a stick fingers
He should have been there in turbo combo field.
@@cedhtv really, I would have put him as turbo graveyard
Is Worldgorger combo non-viable in cEDH?
It is. It is in anje. But this video is not about combos.
Where are the Parasitic and Stax archetypes? Great video btw!
I added in stax into midrange but forgot to say that. I dont know what you mean with Parasitic. Or I have an idea what you mean but what I think it is is not an archtype.
But what is midrange? Said all the commanders but what does midrange even mean?
Same with toolbox
Midrange means low to mid cost creatures to controll the game. toolbox means the ability to find answers depending on what you go up vs. Usally search. Commanders that can search deck are toolbox commanders. A box of tools.
No mention of rograhk and thrasios :( imo rograhk and thrasios has the most consistency potential for any deck outside of black
I did meantion them. rograkh being turbo.
@@cedhtv rograhk and thrasios as a deck list?
Prosper Storm? Prob my fastest deck.
Vanifar probably could have been in the toolbox section
No she is actually a turbo combo commander. She could be a toolbox commander but no one plays it like that. Just win fast.
@@cedhtv I agree but I would say like sisay she falls into several categories plus it’s simic so there’s always value to be had
Orvar???
Orvar is his own kind of monster that doesn't really fit a generalized archetype. That's another video lol.
@@theornerytrilobite I agree! Thanks for commenting!
I see you didn't mention Arcum Dagsson with your toolbox commanders... perfect. Underestimate us. Muahahahahahahaaahahaahaha.
I have to keel him secret!
Kenrith ?
He mentioned kenrith
@@echoscorpiongaming1841 oh my bad
Brother rograhk and thrasios trashes animar. Rograhk and thrasios is the king of URG.