The Rise and Fall of the Dutch in India | History of Dutch India 1609-1824
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When it comes to Indian history most people know the British Empire absorbed the subcontinent following a period of rule by the British East India Company. Not as many people know that the Dutch East India Company (VOC or Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie) also controlled territory in parts of India and Sri Lanka. This included trading posts, forts, towns and factories in Surat, the Malabar Coast, Coromandel, and Bengal in places like Cochin, Surat, Pulicat, Nagapatam, and Pipely. In this video I talk about the forgotten history of Dutch India, how the first trading centres were either established or captured from the Portuguese, what attracted the Dutch there in the first place, and why India eventually became a British domain.
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When it comes to Europeans poking around other lands, the Dutch or the Portuguese were always there first.
What about spanish?
Spanish* were first, after their decline other colonial powers took over in many territories. Spanish and portuguese I should say, the french, english and dutch came second in exploration and colonization, not sure why Hilbert liked it, your comment is not accurate.
But only Spanish left people speaking their language behind and there backnames and proofed that nobody can beat there country even if they speak their language and names
Funny thing is, that Japan only had Dutch people because the made a English guy a samurai sailing under Dutch flag to get the katholics from Portugal away.
Brazil is completly mixed bye the way because the Portuguese didn't take their wife's with them or take a children made in brazil back to Portugal!I think only England didn't leave a shit hole in every country's behind!
Same went for the Roman's in the Roman days , even if they had so many slavery.Spain and England are here in the end for the big win I think, brazil depends on youre point of view!
That's an understatement. The Portuguese were in Asia and Africa over 100 years before the Dutch. Starting in 1415
Vikings: Are we a joke to you?
Would be cool to see a video about Dutch BRAZIL 🇧🇷
Well they don't belong in India.
@@mcc5295 but surely they’d have done a better job than the Indians in India...
@@garyodriscoll7988 like Africans in Europe do a better than that Europeans.
@@garyodriscoll7988 point is they don't belong there . They came as illegal settlers ... cry me a river
The Dutch came here, everybody hated them, got beaten back to Europe and never came back (thankfully). That’s it. Not a fun vid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“Question: Steal the Spice Trade” “That’s not a question but the Dutch did it anyway”
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
@@MegaGun2000 Stfu
But anyways, very funny :D
Dutch defeat in 1741 against the Kingdom of Travancore was the first instance of a European fleet beaten by a local force in India. The Dutch captain was captured and he served as military adviser to the King Marthanda Varma of Travancore and helped in his conquest of local rivals. He served as commander for two kings until he died 30 years later. Travancore went on to become the dominant power in India's southern tip. It later became a vassal of British and existed until after independence.
Fun fact: That Dutch captain was an ancestor of US president FDR.
Travancore was a small power though only remain independent because the anti-mysore Allience. And child's war and marath campaign in Goa happened earlier.
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
Marthanda Varma was amazing
@@Abhishek-sr2pu travancore was richest kingdom in South Asia and great ties with Jews etc
A Dutch fleet? That was a siege right? The Dutch surrenderd because their powder got wet
50% of all History With Hilbert videos contain the British somewhere. The other 50% of all History With Hilbert videos contains the Dutch.
The Brits followed behind the Dutch. Like my dad said about South Africa, "When gold and diamonds were found, you knew the English would show up soon."
@@daneaxe6465 and that he was indeed correct. Rio TInto and DeBeers are prime examples of British diamond mine operations.
This one is 100%
To be fair, it's pretty hard to talk about early modern history without bringing up the country that took over a quarter of the world.
This is the most ambitious crossover of our time, then.
India: *exists*
Every country: *Our country*
@@jfv65 ok
So do Great Indian Powers. Maratha Empire 😎
this is a very interesting topic. You rarely ever hear about Dutch India
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
Actually as a Sri Lankan i was taught in school neither the Portuguese nor the Dutch were able to fully occupie Ceylon but only the coastline which they took from the Portuguese with the help of a local Sinhalese king.Only the British were manage to capture the whole island by taking the coastal areas from the Dutch and defeating the kandyan kingdom in the centre of the island after a coup and a bloody war.
Yep you're right but I'll cover this in a separate video on Dutch Ceylon :)
@@historywithhilbert146 9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
Who says the Dutch even tried? The Dutch were in it for the money and the war with Spain, which were intertwined. They ran a different empire from the other colonial powers, the monarchies. "Empire is too expensive", the Dutch Republic itself was hardly more than a coastline. They propably didn't want to go anymore inland there than going inland in Europe and take land there.
Correct
I am from Surat. We have a small garden here still known as dutch garden. Dutch had its embassy here back in the days.
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
The Dutch do love their gardens!!
The Dutch influence in America is why we call little cakes "cookies" instead of the British word "biscuit." I would like more info on the Dutch in America (specifically the US and Canada).
It's interesting you coloured in the whole of Ceylon (Sri Lanka). When I was there I got the impression the Dutch and Portugese only controlled trading ports like Galle, and it wasn't unti lthe British took over that the whole island was colonised.
They also controlled forts colombo jaffna and trincomale and some other places (still not even half of the island and they got less land than the portuguese previously had, but profited more than the portuguese in ceylon but that is another story.)
i also commented the same thing
This was largely for convenience's sake but I'll talk more about this when I make the dedicated video on Dutch Ceylon :)
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
@@historywithhilbert146 9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
The Dutch meeting India for the first time: “Hello, I like money”
In southern India, the Dutch were rendered pretty much powerless after a defeat with the kingdom of Travancore. The captain of the Dutch, Eustatius Delanoy was taken prisoner but he later ended up as a commander of the Travancore army. He modernized the Travancore army. He was related to the family of US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. His tomb still exists
the passing mention of loss to King of Travancore(Kerala now) was a watershed moment(the king burned the entire Dutch fleet in Indian Ocean)
Could you do a video on French India? That would be something different.
That would be a logical follow up ;)
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
@@historywithhilbert146 9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
@@MegaGun2000 Yeah thats chandan nagar he pointed out not pondichery
Cmon man . As an Indian I would rather by u der British than french
the 17th century truly was the Dutch Golden Age
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
@@MegaGun2000 dude going mad
@@mysterious7215 Agreed, he is posting that everywhere!
@@MegaGun2000 Dude is a Warrior of geography lol
@@A_dummyanimations haha yeah
"Life loses half its interest if there is no struggle - if there are no risks to be taken"
- Subhas Chandra Bose
Haha bose was a terrorist. Oy Gandhi us best and only father
What is your explaination for that
het is altijd mooi dat onze vlag net wat groter is als de anderen
Thank you!! Can you do a video on the Muscovy company please?
One of my mother's ancestors was for a few years the Director General of the VOC in the Coromandel. Not proud of it, but it is a fun fact. Sadly the family declined to obscurity since then. The only thing I know of this period is that it was his mission to restore relations with a Marahadja whose daughter had had sex with the outgoing Director General, causing a lot of diplomatic tensions. It seems he was successful in restoring relations.
Ooo - sounds like it could be a good historical fiction novel!
It's okay to be a bit proud. Dutch history in India wasn't so bad they were mostly traders. In fact most Indians don't even remember that the Dutch once ruled parts of India. The parts they had were mostly trading posts anyway.
Thank you for sharing, as a Pakistani Dutch person, this is extra fascinating.
Woah! Very interesting combination
Not just British and Dutch, we have had French, Portuguese and before them, Arabs, Central Asian invaders in India. All came for the legendary riches of the land. Many western countries today talk of illegal immigration but, Indians have suffered that problem for nearly a millennium now.
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
I agree completely
Weak race
@@andrei19238 Actually the opposite. Otherwise we wouldn't be the majority in this country. It proves the invaders were weak people after our wealth since we successfully purged them.
Many immigrants do indeed act like colonists. The rulers profit from it, the people take the burden.
European traders in Asia at that time were both traders and pirates at the same time.
Pirates with industrialisation 🔥
What rubbish, the Europeans stopped piracy.
Great video Hilbert! Again!
Very informative, thank you for making these.
Here in my hometown Vizag, we have a Dutch cemetery know as Flagstaff Cemetery. My school is also of Dutch origin. King William Alexander also visited Cochin and recalled the Dutch legacy :)
Is there mostly positive feelings towards Dutch?
@@dgill441 somewhat yes. But currently they do have a very developed social system
@@dgill441 positive only if you don't talk about colonization
The VOC is the richest company ever! And yes I would love to see a video of the dutch in NA and maybe also the swedes in NA
VOC become rich looting and killing india.
Thank you for more Dutch history
After watching this it makes me want to learn more about the Dutch exploits in Asia. Not just in Indonesia or India, but their exploits in attacking both modern day Malaysia and the Philippines. Both of which were held by the British and Spanish.
@Абдульзефир oh that's right, the Portuguese was also there..
Fr33mason tell the Dutch that the people have rich of resources of gold & spices. Yes, the freemason the creation of Z1on1st was behind this. Since the Dutch need resources for war. The Dutch then create VoC company to collect gold from the people. Eventhough Malay didn't know this. But in the heart of Malay, they would never trust 1sraels & also because the Qur'an has warn this.
Sorry, little comment. Before the Dutch controlled Indonesia & Malaysia (Nusantara). The first Europeans to come to the Nusantara were the Portuguese. That's why Malaysia & Indonesia absorb vocabulary from Portuguese. Due to the colonial period.
This very helpful and clear. Thanks.
I've been in kochin trade post. Didn't know about the Dutch presence, but dit learn more about it visiting a local museum. I was amazed to actually read Dutch language on grave stones and scripture in the church. Dutch presence was for 300 years, generations of children were born with not a real sense of what it was like in their home country, but still be loyal to the Dutch origin.
I can't imagine how that must be like, living and dying with only hearing stories from the sailers... stories used to surf the seas, now they surf the web...
As I learned in the museum, Indeed the Dutch used the local governing structures already present to gain a stronger position, trading also weapons to local kings to fight and enslave rival groups.
My answer too all your questions:
Yes.
Heerlijk die VOC mentaliteit! :)
Very interesting!
If you'll ever make a video about the rise and fall of the Dutch Brasil, I hope you'll mention Krzysztof Arciszewski. ;-)
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
@@MegaGun2000 Did you post your comment as a response to mine by mistake?
@@Artur_M. no he keeps posting it
@@Artur_M. Adi B is a spammer.
@@MegaGun2000 wasn't it puducherry
Dhanyawad ❤ from india
Fascinating! Recently I got to know about this tiny piece of VOC at Vengurla - which is now a normal coastal town in India, little north of Goa. There's a Dutch Factory, absolutely in ruins now.
Thanks to you and your video, now I know that it actually was a part of Nederlandse Malabar (Wikipedia says so).
This guy deserves way more subs
The VOC and East India Company meeting each other be like :
VOC : Who are you ?
EIC : I'am you but with more violence.
magnificent video, also damn son your merch be bussin mans finna cop 😎
Hehe cochin my city had this much relevance in past I didn't knew 😅
How!? It's one of the most well known historic cities in India, most people don't even know about the Kingdom Of Mysore
It’s a lovely city with a rich history. I really liked it when I visited
9:47 Pondicherry, now Puducherry, is in the Southeast actually. It is technically part of Tamil Nadu now which is, in fact, India southeasternmost state.
❤️Very interesting! More please on the Dutch
9:51 ah yes Pondicherry, that famous Union Territory in the North East of India.
Really love your videos.
I hope you one day get to make that video on Dutch Ceyclon!
Yes - Dutch in North America - please - speaking as a native New Yorker (Nieu Amsterdamer?)
Wij komen uit Nieuw Nederland
Same!!!
4:15 - flag. The orange-white-bleu was the Dutch Navy/Army (i.e. military) flag and the red-white-blue flag was the nation state one.
I was fascinated by this video! Especially learning of the connection between slavery and the introduction of Malay/Indians into the Cape region by the Dutch!
After slavery was abolished, they had "indentured labour" which was almost the same thing for Indians trafficked to the Pacific islands, West Indies and both British and Dutch Guiana by the British.
Yes, that's why there is such a large Indian population in Fiji, for example...
Loved the video, would love to see a video about the Dutch in America.
Thank You For This Video. It was really very Nice & Informative. May God Bless You. Thank You. ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉💐💐💐🌺🌺🌺🌻🌻🌻🌹🌹🌹👍👍👍.
very interesting video
good stuff
You going to do anything about the other non-british colonies in India?
Like the Danish one?
That would be interesting- didn’t know Danes had colonial holdings. I guess it was par for the course in Europe?
@@dgill441 The Danes, Swedes, the Knights of Malta, Brandenburg and Curland to name a few...
Here's a list of former European colonies:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_European_colonies
You might find it interesting.
Some nations are more represented then others.
Having a coastline kind of was important though.
You're not going to find a Swiz colony anywhere.
One interesting aspect of the list is that some of the nations (and other political entities like city states) in that list no longer exist as independent entities (Rangusa in Croatia or Curland in modern day Latvia) or they no longer have a coastline (Austria).
The first VOC slave ship is thought to have been found this year in the coast of Portugal (Melides). The wood is still in the lab where scientists will check its age but everything points that it is the Schoonhoven by cross referencing the VOC and Portuguese archives. It had left Holland for another voyage to Indonesia where it had traded before slaves to the Banda Islands from the coast of India. Link with article about the ship: www.iias.asia/sites/default/files/nwl_article/2019-05/IIAS_NL46_16.pdf
There is an article about it written by a Dutch independent investigator about the history of that ship. Later I’ll post it here if anyone wants to read it.
Would be really cool if you could do a video on the Sikh Empire and it's presence in India, I don't really understand the boring texts, and I really love watching your videos, and it helps me understand.
Your Dutch pronunciation is remarkably accurate. Well-made video. Keep it up!
He's a Frisian from the Netherlands ;)
@@aaronmarks9366 Oh didn't know, thanks! Then still I consider Dutch to be a foreign language to him ;p
@@renswillems8584 That's a good point actually! I hope the Frisian language stays strong and doesn't get submerged by Dutch at some point
We must not forget the Portuguese as they were the first europeans to arrive in India before the Dutch and the English... remember on the 20th of May 1498 when Vasco da Gama reached Calicut on the Malabar Coast...and they continued to be in India from 1505 to 1961 in the Estado da Índia, also referred as the Portuguese State of India ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_India
That Ceylon video sounds interesting
I never knew that existed and it was quite interesting! The bit about the cemeteries was also fascinating. As an American who grew up in NY- I’d love to hear more about Dutch America - New Amsterdam is the only one I know.
Hilbert please make a video about the Dutch in North America! That sounds super interesting!
Interesting stuff there Hilbert. It's a part of Dutch history that we generally know very little about.
@@ishaannag4545 both aspects are taught as far as I can tell. The colonial past is seen as a source of pride and as the foundation of part of our current wealth. At the same time the shadow side of this history is also taught. Subjects such as the trans Atlantic slave trade, South African apartheid or the atrocities against natives in Indonesia during the colonization period are part of the curriculum.
@@ishaannag4545 personally I think that history is about looking back in a more or less detached way. The society we lived in today was formed in our history, so in order to understand problems and developments in our present we need to look at our past. I think that taking pride in your country's history is an important part of the cultural identity of that country. A certain 'amount' of cultural identity is necessary to keep a country together. Without it, it becomes nothing more than a collection of individuals. At the same time it is important to face the wrongs of the past and learn from them. That being said I don't believe people living today are directly responsible for wrongs of their ancestors.
@@ishaannag4545 I agree completely.
@@ishaannag4545 take a look at a photo of the Dutch national football team and you have your answer 😉. There's a lot of coloured people living in the Netherlands whose ancestors came from the further colonies such as Indonesia, Surinam or the Antilles Islands. I would definitely consider these people Dutch.
@@ishaannag4545 pleasure was all mine. I live in a village near Amsterdam.
eindelijk weer Wilhelmus!
Great stuff! A recent DNA test I took shows that I have some Indian, and this is a great clue for me. I had presumed it might be British, but that's too narrow. I'm V northern EU., so...
I always appreciate your cute cartoon depictions! 😆
Dosent that make it spicy isn’t it lol
@@ajarofmayonnaise3250 😂😉
@Diya Roy
No one goes to the UK for the cuisine, really.
I dud enjoy having haggis in Scotland, full breakfast everywhere, kangaroo in Bath, and venison at Rules in London. Pub food is comfort food. Indian Food in London was delicious too.
Oops! I went for the history, but ate my way through!
Do one with the Dutch in Sakoku Japan
What is the seige going on in the pic you use for the Wilhelmus clip? It's an interesting signature piece
Seen a statue at the beach 30km north of Vizag ....VOC was there
Do I get points for knowing that one dude in the cutaway was Jan Peter Balkenende?
9:52 dude, pondicherry is in the South of the country, you're probably thinking of Chandan Nagar
@@MegaGun2000 Dude, wrong comment.
You do if you're not Dutch. His speech from the clip is one of the biggest memes in the Netherlands.
@@frumpyglint can you explain the meme to an American haha 😂
A relation of two several voyages made into the East Indies by Christopher Fryke and Christopher Schewitzer
Is a 17th century book that tells the account of two people joining the VOC and going to the east.
It describes Indonesia and Ceylon it people, culture flora and fauna. pretty interesting stuff
Might I ask which sources you used for the explanation of the Coromandel coast and it's gunpowder productions and the exploitative labour part??
This is how you pronounce VOC in my language Afrikaans verenigde oost indiese kompanie
Glad you brought back the dutch anthem meme
Hilbert your pronunciation is always Excellent and I really appreciate that. For continued excellence, I will just point out you pronunciation of 'Surat' is just a little off - there is no stress on any syllable. You were stressing the A, but it is just a short sharp Surat 👍
I from Kerala and I only heard about this bread now
Ive been to Cochin and saw a Duch grave yard near the area of the Chinese nets.
I loved your editing skills. Would you mind telling me which software do you use ?
Prob. PowerPoint, except for the Dutch empire compilations ig
@@genericusername4316 I meant which video editing software do you use?
@@ajinkyavekhande from previous video he makes his videos using Microsoft PowerPoint. Apologies if it's not satisfactory, only he can answer that.
History of Portuguese India And Ragusan(Croatia) India when??? 👀
The Dutch had their base in Srirampur, which is now a small town near Kolkata.
The French had their bases in Chandannagar near Kolkata, and Pondicherry in TN. While, Kolkata was the main base controlled by the British.
Hooghly was the main British base in Bengal till 1690.
@@stipicaradic hoogly is a district just near Kolkata. Chandannagar and Srirampur are in Hooghly. They made Fort William their base in Kolkata
@@comradebrother7411 So what? It's also the name of the river it's located. Hooghly was the name of the first british factory in Bengal before it was destroyed by the Mughals. Also Srirampur was Danish, not Dutch, comrade.
@@stipicaradic lmao I think mughals came first
@@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH lmao Yeah from Uzbekistan lmao. And later they sold the land around Hooghly to the British lmao. And when the new emperor came to power he reneged the deal to show he was a big man lmao. Lmao
Lekker gewerkt man.
I am in doubt: either you came from England and your Dutch is quite good, or your English (accent) is quite remarkable for such a 'cheese head' (kaaskop)... All in all I just discovered your channel 30 minutes ago (thanks to the recommendations of UA-cam) and I am already hooked! I even learned things of my own Dutch history that I even did not know. Keep up the good work!
Born in England but Dutch parents
i was thinking the same thing, but only someone from Alkmaar is a true Kaaskop! I should know, i'm Scots living in Sydney 😀
A Quick fact Dutch have a fort in Budge Budge and Falta that is in South of West Bengal , although it is a ruin now .
Very informative , but Ceylon was never fully occupied by the Netherlands. It took the British East India Company to overrun the whole island
Local landlords in my Region had alliances with Dutch East India Company and there are even a lot of defensive castle and trenches which the Dutch helped to build.
🎶 So we're sailin'! So we're sailin' on! I'm movin'! I'm moving on! Ceylon, Ceylon, sail on, sail on! Eeeeeeahhh! 🎶
What about the French presence in INDIA ?
Hey. A sri Lankan here. It is very interesting to know that our names for playing cards Ruhitha, Haratha and scoppa have very similar sounds to Ruhiton(Ruiten), Haroton(Harten), Ishkapon(Schoppen). I have always assumed these names have English origin. The other card name is Kalabara. Does is also have Dutch origin?
Another thing that I like to point out is Dutch never captured the entire Sri Lankan Island. They had the control of coastal areas.
Your only missing klaveren…
Kalabara sounds a lot like Klaver in Dutch, so yeah
Kalabra sounds a bit like the Dutch word "Klaveren", so I think it also comes from Dutch. :)
thank you very much for your clarification
What is the name of the painting that you show when you play Het Wilhemus
The Portuguese from the 1400s to the 1900s
400% profit woke up my Dutch heart.
Congrats on finishing your term too Hilbert.
die brood tulband heet broeder. die maakte mijn oma altijd. lijkt ook meer op breudher
Make a video about Dutch Taiwan or the Dutch special relations to Japan
Yes! Weren’t they for a period of time the only ones Japan let trade with them?
@@dgill441 they were! That was because they didn’t want to trade with the Portuguese or Spanish or English, because they had a known history for staying after the trade and converting locals. While the Dutch just came for trade.
Anyone got the name of the last piece of music the classic sounding one
ua-cam.com/video/stCKjZniMsQ/v-deo.html I think it's a version of Pachelbel's Canon.
Pls tell about trangubar... duch fort in india.
Cyborg ghandi is beautiful
I prefer Nuclear Ghandi.
@@stipicaradic Taco Bell toilet Ghandi is also quite nice
Yes, anything with Hilbert
I would like to see a video about the Dutch in Northern India and Bengal. Also, did the Dutch bring ppl from India back to the Netherlands with them.
Do on french India
Taiwan also got ruled by V.O.C. Most Taiwanese know that Netherland ruled Taiwan but most Taiwanese don’t know that it was VOC.
Hi,
Some new information for me,
What about the Sri Lanka part of this story ???
Greetings from the Netherlands 👋🙂
I love the increase in playfulness and jokes
Thank you I did know about Dutch India, I would love for you to do a video on Dutch North America and the Caribbean.
Also have you done a video yet on Danish India?
idk man this gives me italian wars insparation ? possible ?