What If The Dutch Empire Reunited Today
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Which other empires could I do this for?
General Knowledge Portugal, Spain and Britain (but I’m pretty sure you’ve done most of them
maybe German? Russian? (dunno if you did any of them but it's just an idea)
German Colonial empire?
german and british.
1st Mexican empire?
The Dutch Empire is like that kid that takes a bite out of everything but never completely eats it
Devon deBorst lol so true
they do it in Indonesia
trueee u made me laugh
@@joeanwar88 indonisia is only country taken all
@@Pekroler No, dutch didn't took buton empire and east timor (portuguese) in the past. Also dutch never reach the center of borneo, the location of dayak's tribe
"The Dutch ruled the cape colony briefly before losing it to the British."
You consider 150 years of Dutch rule, brief? That's about as long as the Brits ruled it. They only lost it because Napoleon occupied the Netherlands
They didn't lost it because Napoleon occupied the Netherlands. It wasn't Napoleon who took the colony away, it was the British. Napoleon occupying the Netherlands was simply the excuse they used to do so.
@@Gabriel-ip6me 🤡
@@Gabriel-ip6me Then we can say that Spanish occupation of Portugal was not the reason that the Dutch took control over the Asian spiceroute, it was only the Dutch beating them and they used Spanish occupation as an excuse.
@@vincewouw1 Yes, of course you can say that. And you should. That's what happened. Am I supposed to disagree?
The Spanish didn't take the colonies away, the Dutch did, because they were at war with the Spanish, and Portugal and Spain were in a personal union, so they didn't want the Portuguese wealth to fund the Spanish war effort. It's a very similar situation in fact.
@@Gabriel-ip6me well u just got some dumbass reasoning but well that's fine ig
*The day the Dutch find out you can grow spices in space*....
Every alien: Why do I smell stroopwafel en gebakken peren?
as a Dutch person I liked this
The dutch: Hold my Stroopwafel.
Every alien: Why do i hear boss music?
This was a good one, made me laugh, thank you
@@Hennie4life
Dutch: Aliens, we want to buy your whitewidow.
Aliens: *Hands over mourning white woman*
Dutch: And 6 feet rolling paper/blowtorch I guess.....
@Stan110 Naast het inpolderen van Engeland (Aside from turning the Brits into a polder) is de cosmos inderdaad ook gratis vastgoed. Maan polder, Mars polder, de Pluto-plantage. Bepoldering en beschaving is een deugt die met iedere wereldburger/alien-slaaf gedeeld moet worden (Polders and civilisation are a commodity to be shared with every world civilian and their alien slaves). I"ve been dreaming of an Imperial Ultra-capitalist Neo-Dutch space-fleet since I was a kid.
In de naam van Willem Van oranje!!
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Sorry i had to do it lol
Beat me to it. XD
Just like the colonizers did.
Goedendag 😁
@@martinkullberg6718 goedenavond :)
S P E C E R I J E N
I'm from northeast Brazil the area the was in Dutch control for a while. A fun fact is that during Dutch rule they allowed the jewish religion here and many of the first portuguese settlers in this region were in fact sephardi jews (iberian jews) that were escaping inquisiton so they were allowed to build the first synagogue of the americas but after the portuguese retook the control those people had to convert to catholicism again but till this day many aspects of jewish culture can be found there and most people don't even realize that. For exemple would wash a corpse and bury them without a coffin among other things. Some of them left with the dutch and founded New York.
@@neehee3121 They did care about religion a lot. They fought Spain for 80 years to protect protestantism from catholic rule. The whole colonization started because of the fight for religion. Difference is that both protestants and catholics had decided on freedom of religion in 1579, allthoug not to be confused with equality of religion. Protestantism was the official state religion and catholicism was kept on a leash.
Because of that and the nature of the state regilion, they weren't interested in forced conversion and weren't interested in ruling anyway. It also would have been impractical to teach everyone to learn to read and write, in Dutch, so they could read the official Dutch state bible, because that's what conversion would have meant. And if would be bad for trade of course.
The jews were no threat to protestantism at all so they could practice their religion in any way they wanted, unlike the catholics who often had to keep a low profile. They also felt connected as they viewed themselves as the new (testament) chosen people.
They believed empire was too expensive and simply lacked the manpower, mostly due to the fact that life in the Dutch Republic itself was very good. Often half of the crews of ships and population in the settlements would be foreign. Danes, Ests, Lets, Swedes, Germans and walloons, but also Mediterranean, African and Asian with their own beliefs. So even if they had wanted to it would lt would have been impossible in the multicultural trade empire they ran.
@@neehee3121 I think you need to get your facts straight. The Dutch were responsible for the Cunhaú and Uruaçú massacres in Brazil. Basically it was a Protestant killing of Catholic colonist for the sake of religion (!). It was also the reason why the Portuguese had to intervene and managed to get rid of them.
Also, slave trade run HUGE in the dutch colonies in Brazil and were pretty much the reason for much of its economic prosperity. They pretty much loaned money to the senhores de engenho for profits, traded slaves and parasited other peoples' work without doing much in exchange.
Part of the problem of Dutch and Portuguese colonisation was that since they had to enslave and kill in other to prosper, the New World was basically a place where moral laws were suspended ad hoc. Once they returned to Europe they had to act accordingly. At the end of the day they lived (for most of the time) a life that was worse or similar to that of the natives in pre-Columbian times. There was indeed very little civilization effort, and a hell lot of greed and evil going on. Northeast Brazil of today is a compound of this multilayered, multi-century tragedy.
@@joaov.m.oliveira9903 That's probably right for the Portugals but not for the Dutch. The Dutch didn't enslave local people, or other people than the children of slaves, they bought slaves and shipped them in. The Dutch governer of Brazil was extremely enlightened for his time and fell madly in love with Brazil. He created a multicultural, mutlireligious, multiracial society there and described the natives that were converted to calvinism as the true Brazilian, and he even wanted to build a university, which was of course frowned upon by the board of the WIC who were in it for the war against Spain and the money.
The bitter irony of it is that this enlightened man was also the one that got the Dutch into slavery. With Dutch Brazil beeing taken from the Portugese it was a plantation economy and he complained to the board he couldn't run it without slaves. With the rise of the importance of sugar and tobacco Dutch theologists were in the process of finding a biblical excuse for slavery, which under economic and military pressure they did. The board of the WIC approved in 1638 if I remember correctly under the condition that the slaves had to be educated in christianity and would be free after 7 years. So they set sail to Africa and captured Elmina from the Portugese, only the end up as mainly slavetraders after the loss of Brazil and New Amsterdam becoming New York.
That was actually quite typical for the WIC, it was always torn between high ideals and dirty wars, between big plans and small minded frugality. They never really knew what to do, privateering Spanish and Portuguese ships was worth it especially to rob the Spanish from silver to pay the war against the Dutch Republic with, but it was very irregular business. The idea of creating big agricultural settlements full of calvinists didn't work because life was too good in the Dutch Republic itself so hardly anyone was interested. The resulting multicultural, multireligious societies lacked loyalty and the WIC was too cheap to keep them defended well enough. They never managed to be big in the plantation economies because they were late to the party because of the calvinistic objections to slavery that were unique to the Dutch Republic in it's first 50 years of existence.
@@joaov.m.oliveira9903 as a brazilian, thank you for these comments
The Netherlands was never considered Central Europe, It’s just western...
I paused and looked for this commentaar.
The Netherlands are not western lol
@@Xarosy hmm they definitely are 😂
@@Xarosy The UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, France and Germany are all considered Western
@@Geertt Germany is central
When a random UA-cam channel talks about a small country that is my home country
Me: aandacht
The Netherlands experiences the Estonia Effect interesting
+1 maat
Dat is mijn vriend reinier
I discover this guy its from my country that is even smaler
Totale aandacht
As a cicizen of the Western Cape from South Africa I would be happy for the dutch to take us back
What happens in the western cape
@@thomas8190 an absalot power struggle between this province and the rest
Are Flemish people also welcome?
yes we will you give stroopwafels😉
I wouldn’t
You basically missed the whole country of new-Zeeland which name comes from the Dutch province Zeeland
Perhaps do your homework before mentioning something:
The Dutch were the first Europeans to visit, but the Maoris weren't friendly and killed some Dutch folk and so years later the English came and did establish a colony.
@@Marcel75432 I know but the name is Dutch he could have mentioned it
Abboneer op serpentgameplay goeie shit daar
@@thepumpkinman381 eens
XD dat is een goeie (thats an good one)
When a country has spices
Netherlands: I'll TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!
"You heard what i said, *take, not buy!!!!"
The Netherlands: IS THERE A DISCOUNT FOR THESE SPICES
any country: n-
The Netherlands: THERE IS A DISCOUNT!!!!!!
any country: THERE US NO DISCOUNT!
the Netherlands: **aims musket**
Porr countries: ima head out
Windmill production would rise tenfold.
Spices too
Hey Monsieur, never knew you watched G.K! I hope you get to 100K soon, and I love your videos.
Ayyy! Wussup, Monsieur!
Monsieur! In spirit of the Dutch, could you do a "what if the Netherlands joined the Entente in WW1"? Because of the good relation between the German and Dutch royal family?
And polders for everyone
This feels like a RealLifeLore video
I tried to measure their former territories in Toyota Corollas, also an impossible scenario
Yes
Ikr
SO TRUE
Up
When you said Madagascar 🇲🇬, didn’t you actually mean Maldives 🇲🇻? There was a circle ⭕️ on the map indicating the Asian archipelago
Lol you mean srilanka
Yup, the green circle on the ocean, next to Sri Lanka 🇱🇰 , of course. It’s pointed out there but he says something about Madagascar 🇲🇬, that doesn’t appear on the map, once is on the southeast cost of Africa. Therefore my doubts.
Rishabh Johary let’s see. As far as I know, Madagascar 🇲🇬 was colonized by France, but maybe the Dutch kept a harbor there too
@@user-yu8my5qr9j Sri Lanka is under India....
He didn't mean Sri Lanka
When he was talking about how the east and west India companies divided the world he showed how Africa was split between them. When he talked about Africa his map showed which parts were colonized by each company, but had a single color for trade posts, and he only talked about west India trade posts.
But it looked like there were a few dots on the coast of Madagascar, so there you go.
Why wasnt Britain made part of the Netherlands, after king William lll became king of Scotland, Ireland and England.
For the same reason why the Scandinavian countries weren't merged into one nation after the Kalmar Union was dissolved, King William III ruled over two entities, the Dutch Republic, also referred to as the "Nederlandse koloniale rijk", and Great Britain. After his death, the German House of Hanover took the British throne, and the Netherlands/Nederlands were no longer under a personal union with GB.
Because that's a personal union, not a single country. A personal union is when one king/queen rules over two separate nations at once.
And Australia
No, they remained seperate countries and it was not a proper union of the states
William III initially only ruled over England, Scotland and Ireland in name of his wife (Queen Mary). Since they had no children William was allowed to remain king for what was left of his life. Probably bc of gratitude for the glorious revolution or to keep stability
Imagine if the dutch colonized Australia. Also, Tasmania is still named after a dutch guy: Abel Tasman was from Groningen, one of the northern provinces of the Netherlands.
Well being born and raised in Arnhem...
Like to point out
👉 Arnhemland, Australia
New Zealand is also named after the dutch province.
The Dutch had Australia
Abel Tasman : grunn de gekste
Imagine if the Netherlands had not given up ‘New Netherland’ (with New York aka New Amsterdam) in the Treaty of Breda after the Second Anglo Dutch war. The whole history of the United States would have probably been a lot different.
Nah it wasn't really a choice lol. It was either giving it up and getting Suriname or losing it without getting anything since the English army was way stronger.
@@kevind7227 the Dutch didn’t like it bcs it was far away and they had a deal where they would get a big territory which was way better
For a starter, no USA civil war because the each province in the Netherlands is allowed a large degree of independence for things like taxes. This means that it is likely The Netherlands would still rule New Netherlands. This means that due to a much bigger military (among others) presence in the Netherlands and present day Belgium and Luxembourg which would have made it impossible for Hitler to occupy Europe.
So basically when someone asks you how you would stop WWII or change most of the history since ~1850 you can just answer: "no treaty of Breda"
@@kevind7227 because of a number of stupid things the Dutch royal family did. If you want to know what they did react on this comment.
@@-Floris lol every point you said makes no sense what so ever. Ofcourse there would be a civil war since the Thirteen colonies or Twelve in that timeline would want independance eventually, which would lead to them Manifesting Destiny and wanting to annex New Netherland. Yes it's called that not with the s. Ofcourse Hitler would still have steamrolled Europe.
As someone who was born and raised in New Amsterdam, I am all for this.
You must be very old🤣
2:53 “briefly” the Dutch held the cape for almost 200 years
Hold my beer
Nearly 350 years in Indonesia
@@MrJamiesilaban hold my beer
Amsterdam
@@MrJamiesilaban
let me finish the whole barrel for you bruh..
3 1/2 cent. with all its borrowed language and customs + political + law + military systems.
and the flag is basically dutch but the blue one got torn bcause the indonesian dont apply monarchy system in their society until now
@@superbeltman6197
should be cheers broer 🤣
The dutch farmers tried to defend it
"It ain't much, but it's honest work"
- The Dutch
As an Indonesian, I wouldn't mind that much as long it's the modern Dutch.
But what about the Dutch?
Dutchman here. I don't think most Indonesians agree with you and I can't blame them.
@@hjalmar4565 Yeah probably not.
@@hjalmar4565 yep i personally would go to war for my country independence.
@@AbyssWatcher745 With the modern day Dutch you could expect more something like a trade union. We would have more spices again (fair-trade this time) and you guys can enjoy our tax heaven while you store money on Luxembourgish banks.
As a German i hereby recognize the Claim of the Netherlands on this Comment Section!
Gekoloniseerd!
Reichscommisariat commenten
Blitzkrieged
What? You already tried in 1940-1945. And your funnily moustached leader failed
Ah, a German. Gruß aus Indonesia!
@@fakhryhartono6352 (I hope Google translate didn't fail me)
Salam untuk Indonesia!
0:30 It is also not entirely accurate, the Dutch for example also had possessions in the north (e.g. Spitsbergen).
Also Nova Zembla
The dutch ocupation of northeast of Brazil lasted for 24 years. It must be remembered the government of prince Maurice of Nassau who was a good ruler and responsible for arrival of artists and scientists to northeast of brazil. He also increased the sugar prodution and permited religious freedom .
That is too positive a view. He was also a relentless enslaver of people. He kickstarted the transatlantic slave-trade.
@@Kelkschiz The Dutch never used locals as slaves they always bought slaves mainly from Africa which sold their own people to the Dutch
@@MusicIsLegal and your point is?
@@nicolaasjonkhart4660 You are dead wrong. Educate yourself.
@@Kelkschiz boohoo colonial powers used slaves. Everyone did, part of the time. Was it wrong? Sure. Did it lead to a better society today? Yes.
If reunited today? Dutch would probably get a severe headache from her largest colony.
@michi hofer i don't see that happening
@michi hofer wkekwkwk NGIMPI
No, we would get access to amazing food ;)
@michi hofer hahahaha ur dumb, that only happens if the dutch take u back. the current state of the country is very poor and that won’t change soon.
@@xander8468 what country is in poor state?
We would've been the first to the moon and even mars if people just convinced us there were spices on mars.
Would prob work better when they convince us the inside of mars is made out of cheese ;)
@@TMTFT it's noga and caramel?
There is spice in Arrakis
Hello, from former Dutch Brazil!
My Dutch ancestor was born in Recife, Brazil. When the Portuguese kicked them out, the family got separated and she and her mother went to New Amsterdam, and her father went to the Netherlands, and it was several years before they were reunited.
corvus13 cool story
Cool story bro
Your ancestor was born in my hometown. Great family story, man.
Love your videos !!!! As an Italian person, I can say even nowadays Italian People relate a lot to the Regions where they come from, rather than the nation itself. It would be interesting to watch a video of the Italian peninsula as a place with different countries, like Italy before unification :)
Hey, Dutch time!!! Fun fact, my sirname is derived from the 17th century Dutch word 'Moelman' meaning Miller, or millman. That's why on our coat of arms we have a lot of windmills. I'm proud to be Dutch😁😁😁
I'm glad that you're name is not ending with 'Stra'
@@Deelom100 What Why? I am stra/sma. We are Frisian: the godfathers.
Anyways. Mill is in Dutch molen, so perhaps its derived from Molenman. Molenman -> Moelman -> Moolman.
@@Deelom100 What would be wrong with a Frisian name?
@@rutgerb More like Molenman -> Moleman -> Moolman
@@Weda01 nothing but surnames ending with -ink are way better, just sayin
The Dutch empire would actually be even bigger. If they controlled Belgium, they would also have control over their colonies (Kongo etc).
@JustJian This is just hypothetical. With such an empire, history would have changed completely... Also he pointed in the video out that all those colonies never existed at the same time. So no need to say something is right or wrong. It is just a hypothesis.
Other colonial powers would split congo if belgium never got independence
@JustJian I mean, while I agree that the Congo likely would never have been colonized by a united Belgium/Netherlands, the reasons you're giving are absolute rubbish...
First of all, Wallonia never belonged to France (except for a short while during the Npoleonic Wars, but so did Flanders and half of Europe). Quite the OPPOSITE, for centuries, the county of flanders was a part of the Kingdom of France, whereas Wallonia was always incorporated into the HRE as various duchies/principalities/etc.
Secondly, I don't know why you keep singling out Flanders in the Belgian colonization effort when it was a primarily a Walloon endeavour at that point. This is because while Wallonia was an industrial powerhouse at the time, and held most of the country's economic and political power, Flanders was overwhelmingly agrarian and poor.
@@WHO-hm5ve Yeah maybe, we don't know... But this was just an hypothesis about the biggest possible extend
@JustJian lol, have you even read my comment?
I said i agree that belgian colonies wouldn't have existed in such a scenario, my issue was with your entire line of reasoning.
And jeez, I'm well aware of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands hahahaha, no need to link a wiki page - again, I never said Flanders wasn't a part of it, YOU said WALLONIA was a part of france - THAT was wrong
edit: also just realized that you're implying that Wallonia wasn't in the United Kingdom of the Netherlands, which is wrong too lol
New Holland (currently known as Australia) and New Zealand: "are we a joke to you?"
Wait did Australia And new sealand used to of the dutch empire
@@foxskaminer More like, Netherlands named it. They only stayed around briefly, study the land for a bit, named it, and then be done with it since their main focus and favourite darling was Dutch East Indie, not that big piece of land that didn't look fertile (New Holland/Australia). New Zealand was initially New ZeEland, the british changed it a bit.
@@rachelciel3330 yes ik now
Northeast Brazil was called New Holland too.
@@rachelciel3330 you are correct. the islands have first been explored by Abel Tasman, but he saw no potential in it. (the island Tasmania is named after him)
Later James Cook explored a different area of the islands and did see potential. The British asked "can we have those?" and the Dutch were like "sure, why not."
All the Dutch seeing this video. Alright you've got my attention. Now praise us.
Ik Ben hier,wie heeft me geroepd?(translate this if you cannot understand).
I was expecting a more glorifying narration, but the video was very factual. As a dutch hobby historian you have my compliments!
We're not protestant. We're secular with our biggest religion being: not religious.
Back in the days we were very religious, mainly catholic and protestant
Actually highest (self identified) 'religion' is "ietsisme" (which roughly translates to 'something-ism' for all you non-dutch speakers ). They believe in something else than just the material and tangible, but it's not clear what it is exactly.
@@fordprefect9296 which include many humanism an paganism things.
@@JB-bh3yi lol it where christians as biggest group dude. Catholic was the second biggest group. Now its atheïst that is the biggest group in the Netherlands. Thank God.
Are you ignoring that most atheists here still come from protestant family, attend protestant schools and the fact that we literally had a 100 year war with spain bc most of the Netherlands was protestant? Tolerating other religious views and secularism doesn’t mean the majority is atheist which makes it very clear you never paid attention in high school social studies nor history.
Being a dutchman i couldn't resist. The narration was surprisingly unbiased and quite realistic for such a huge "what if?" i have to admit i'm really impressed. That being said i'm even more surprised by the amount of voice in the comments saying they would quite like to be taken back under Dutch rule...wow.
like the people in the Congo want the Belgians back to rule because (they say) much less coruption, salary paid on time better school system... to name a few
Sounds to me like a good plan. Let's start with the Dutch America's and expand from there.
I'm all for it.
That would be such a culture shock for the current inhabitants.
@@NeedANewName The way things are going right now, it can only be an improvement.
@@freudsigmund72 indeed
@Maggiee The Dutch back then is a different people than the Dutch now... it is even a new country (founded in 1812)
if someone try to colonize my motherland im ready to die for it
Fun fact : The Dutch completely controlled Indonesia for only 50 years, the Aceh region was successfully taken over in 1906, which at that time was still a sovereign country, it even had an embassy in the Ottoman Empire.
Imagine how much land we could reclaim from the sea with all that money! We would be polder empire!
N O M O R E O C E A N
We can probably capture whole Europe and that will make us the strongest country in the world IF it reunited
Who needs that much water anyways?
*finds atlantis*
we would eliminate the English chanal. and take back the English throne.
The VOC seems happy after this video
the VOC is now called SHELL
0:05 The Netherlands isn't Central Europe, it's Western Europe.
0:07 As shown in the diagram the Netherlands also holds Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba, not just Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten.
2:07 The official dividing line if I recall correctly was the Drake Passage in the west and the Cape Colony in the east (however the West Indies Company did hold the chilean outposts even tho this is past this line).
5:48 There was never a claim by the Dutch on Australia (then called New Holland), it was just exploratory mission. Tasmania was renamed in honor of one of the Dutch explorers, Abel Tasman, so it technically still has a Dutch name.
6:28 Most of South Africa was either colonised by the Dutch or their decendants (the Boers), the green area on the map is just what the Dutch Empire controlled. In this scenario I'm pretty sure it would all join. This map is also not self consistent since the Dutch claimed much more of Brazil as theirs but not all of it is shown, however in Taiwan while they claimed it all, they only controlled a bit of the south of the island.
Thank you for mentioning Saba! I live on Saba and was disappointed that he didn't mention it
9:51 EU is not a country, and if it was germany would be part of it
@delonix regia I said most of South Africa and the English only took over what the Dutch and Boers already had.
@@foundunwanted713 no problem!
You are wrong on your second point. The kingdom of the Netherlands = The Netherlands, Aruba, Curacao & Sint Maarten. While Saba, Sint Eustatius and Bonaire are provinces within the Netherlands "under special status".
I get mad “history with Hilbert”-vibes from the anthem in the start
Back in line bro. You're Dutch now ;)
Indonesians: *grabs* *bamboo* *spears*
If you want to know more information about the Brazilian region today, dominated by the Dutch in the past, research about the Northeast Region of Brazil (with the exception of Bahia), but mainly Pernanbuco. There are also other recent small towns in the south colonized by Dutch Catholics, such as Holambra and Holambra II
In the Brazil regions, the Dutch period it was better than portuguese period.
In Recife there are some places named after the Dutch influence, like the Mauricio de Nassau university
That's because, unlike the portuguese, the dutch geographic position forced them to industrialize and modernize their colonies so they could aready pick up and sell the final product from there. Portugal in the other hand could bother to transport all raw goods to Europe because they are located in the western tip of continental Europe with easy acess to the atlantic and the mediterrain sea. The dutch industrialization of the northeast brought good times of prosperity but in the long term Portugal retaking It was the best option for us, the dutch suck at colonizing.
"Would part of South Africa split off to rejoin the Dutch?"
The Western Cape already wants to secede apparently, so
Please!!!
Orania
With Belgium included we would have an awesome international soccer team
Indonesia: ah sh*t here we go again
"...Budi. Get the bamboo spear."
Pulang bang
Well, there was a Dutch union between the the Kingdom of Netherlands, Suriname, Lesser Antilles, and the United States of Indonesia in 1949. And then Indonesia decided to just get out and become Republik Indonesia and then the union just got off
Do you guys think it would've been possible for the Dutch Empire to exist through the Napoleonic Wars?
Small country big colony lol
Yes 😡
Portugal be like
This is all of Europe except Russia and in the old days Germany
Eh living in a small country has some good parts. Like for exemple, if i want to go to a friend that lives on the other side of the country ill just take a train that will take like 1 hour or go with the car
@@sid86588 1 hour with the car? Hell no, you would get stuck in traffic easy
As indonesian (used to be called dutch east indies) i just feel sad that we were not allowed to speak dutch language ..it would be better now if we speak dutch
Saya lebih sedih tidak bisa berbahasa Inggris,bahasa Inggris lebih berpengaruh dan jauhhhh lebih PENTING mengapa anda mempermalukan diri anda seperti itu??Belanda tidak pernah menyebut nama Indonesia dan yahh itu BAIK hanya orng2 indonesia yg inferior yg suka menghubungkan diri dengan belanda,Belanda lebih bangga mereka pernah menjajah Amerika dan pernah bekerjasama dengan Jepang tidak pernah Indonesia jadi yahh nilai sendiri,saya jarang melihat ada orang Belanda yang tertarik dengan ikatan sejarah mereka dengan Indonesia,Indonesia aja yang selalu overproud dan selalu dicuekin alias gak digubris,indonesia tidak spesial Dimata Belanda indonesia adalah noda yang ingin dihapus oleh Belanda jadi jika anda masih punya harga diri berhenti menghubungkan diri dengan belanda karena sepertinya Belanda juga tidak suka,lebih baik fokus pada kemajuan Indonesia,menanamkan rasa percaya diri yang tinggi daripada mengemis minta perhatian tapi berakhir dengan diabaikan
As a dutch man I must watch this with pride
Blijkbaar mag je niet trots zijn op ons verleden en de voc want dan ben je meteen een racist
Heb echt medelijden met je... het waren plunderaars maar ja daarom leven we nu in een rijke land he
@@joeredebom dieven dat is wat jullie waren!!!! En nu huilen om buitenlanders ga janken ga
@@missb9628 haha dus omdat ik Nederlander ben ben ik racistisch. Ga toch fietsen Of is fietsen ook racistisch omdat Nederland het fiets land is Mensen zo als jij sporen niet. Jij bent onderdeel van het probleem. Beetje blindelings mensen veroordelen zonder dat je ook maar iets van ze weet 🖕👋
@jasper loman racist 🤣
is- is it true that Netherlands made land?
Yeah why would it not be true
Ofc, living in the sea is a bit boring
Ofc
@@jbird4478 Well 30-40% of it yes
Why yes, the province of Flevoland exists for about 50 years at this point.
Technically Netherlands has more Catholics than it has Protestants.
But in reality Netherlands is mostly a-religious, followed by catholic and then protestant.
@delonix regia not really, the south is fully catholic, most ppl are irreligious and the biggest Christian party unifies both catholics and protestants
@delonix regia there are also hindu jews etc. Just stopped where he was wrong.
While its true that a portion of irreligious people grew up in protestant families, the decline has been going on since 60s.
The monarchs only have a ceremonial role so that point is moot.
Indeed. A majority of the dutch is irreligious nowadays.
Most people still have christian traditions like easter and christmas so it still kinda has an culteral influence
EetJeBordOpツ jongens, waarom voeren jullie een discussie met andere Nederlanders over Nederland in het Engels.
Sri Lankan Highlands was not a part of Duch Empire. They were Independent as "Kindom of Kandy".
Indeed lot of points on the map where stations to support ships and for trade, it was not possible to exist without the blessing of local rulers and that seems to be forgotten by a lot of people. Voc started in Indonesia also with support of local sultans but it changed 200 years later (1800) in a real colony.
The VOC (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie) only had a monopoly on trade with some regions and was by far not the only company to foster trade with the world. But it became the poster child of dutch colonization. Lots of companies were run by just small private investors that pulled some money together and started a trading company. The real driver behind the trading empire was free and private entrepreneurship, not a government mandated organization. However, the VOC is the first multinational company in modern history and set the template for others. Also the Amsterdam stock exchange is the first stock exchange and we had the first economic bubble with the tulip mania. (a dubious honor)
Today we still have a lot of problems in the world with big multinational companies that are more powerful than some countries. And just like the VOC at the end, they need a bailout by the government and cost the economy a lot of money. Short term they seem profitable because they can control end exploit some markets and oversees countries. But in the long term they eventually fall behind because they are unable to change with changing market conditions and build up a lot of debt. And then I'm not speaking of the social problems they cause.
BTW. According to the dutch Wiki page, the VOC was created by joining a lot of smaller existing dutch trading companies into one organization. This was forced by the government to generate money to support the war efforts against Spain. Before the individual companies were in fierce competition with each other and didn't generate enough profits that could be taxed. Conclusion: The VOC was not the cause of the boom in trade and was not a natural occurrence.
This might be to political, as this channel is quite a-political. The deeper point is, the dutch were at some point the cradle of free trade and that did a lot of good to the world. But we also created some, in my opinion, wrong institutions that changed trade into means of oppression and exploitation. Which as a Dutchman, I regret.
Okay commie time to go to bed
@@pashaofutrecht6392 You didn't understand anything of what I said, and it is one o'clock in the afternoon.
General Knowledge Could you pretty please do a video of What if Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland & Iceland united into 1 unifed nation & a video of what is Great Brittan, United States, Canada, Australia & New Zealand united into 1 contrey?
Remove the USA and you have CANZUK. The USA wouldn't fit with any of those countries.
@@TrueBlueKangaroo You know, those are Britans old colonies and allies right? The name doesn't matter, it (the name) can be something else.
@@TrueBlueKangaroo Yeah i know, but i was thinking of something on the line of a Greater United Anglosphere.
Maybe join the DC server and write that suggestion in the #suggestions-video channel. GK regularly checks the suggestions there
@@raandamu CANZUK is a real thing. Look it up. Yes, theyre commonwealth countries and thats why theyre so similar.
I am Dutch, so I have to say the funny word: G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Ehm ik denk niet echt dat je Nederlands bent
D E K O L O N I S A T I E
Bruh moment
G E K O L O N I S E E R D!
The Dutch only needs to regain Taiwan to be able to put themselves on the forefront of economic powers. Imagine uniting ASML and Philips with all the first tier semiconductor and electronic companies such as TSMC, UMC, Asus, Foxconn under one roof. They would dictate the world's high tech business.
A collaboration would be awesome. I'm not comfortable with dictating Taiwan. I'd rather try to work together, if not, then too bad, the situation will be like it is now.
@@DrBreadstick Yeah okay, that's true. Maybe there are some ways to collaborate to not annoy China, though. Light, reasonably harmless decisions. But yeah, you are totally right. It can be a bad decision indeed perhaps.
@@jonasjaagur9635 I expect China to attempt to regain Taiwan during the coming -Biden- Harris administration and America standing by and doing nothing about it, as the UK government currenntly does nothing about China not abiding by, at least the spirit, of the Hong Kong deal.
This was really interesting, I’d love to see you make these videos for other empires such as the british
Dutch deforestation in Sumatra. The Dutch started deforestation in the East Coast of Sumatra. At least 80% of the area in the lowland of North Sumatra had been deforested by 1940.
Karl Pelzer’s study using data of 1940 showed that in the two largest tobacco production area (Deli and Serdang afdeeling), 61% of the land was used for tobacco production, 31% not being used, and only 8% under forest. So more than 90% of the area had already been cleared.
… on the distant horizon, encompassed by the virgin forest, half enveloped still in the milk-white morning mists, was land that would one day become the new estate.
For centuries on end the secret struggle for life had gone on in the perennial dusk. Suddenly men had come, cutting, uprooting, destroying the majestic tree trunks, and the myriad suckers of the creepers. The blows of axes had resounded through the forest, and a thundering roar, magnified a thousand fold, had echoed through the dim depths like the sound of a dire disaster as these old giants of the forest fell dying. Still, under these colossal trunks with foliage lying criss-cross all over the ground, the black, soft, moist humus had continued to live. …
Then in one morning at one stroke fire had put an end to all that remained. It had flared up, crackling, hissing, sizzling among the mighty tree trunks. … There had been a raging era of fire, a furious flood of flames bellowing as it reached up heavenward.
Before they had realised what was happening, plants and animals had been annihilated.
Madelon Lulofs-Szekely, Coolies (1933)
Felled trees for tobacco plantation in Deli in 1890s.
When we talk about deforestation, Indonesia always came up as the main culprit. Less talked about is Dutch root of deforestation in Indonesia. As described above by Madelon Lulofs-Szekely, many parts of Sumatra’s East coast were still covered by jungles in the 19th Century.
The Dutch discovered the tobacco industry in Deli in the 1860s and created a an industrial-scale plantation system. The local sultans collaborated and gave concessions of 1000-2000 hectares of land to each company in a 75-year lease.
The Dutch colonial planters assumed that tobacco could only grow well in the soil that had just been cleared from the virgin jungle. Thus the industry drove large-scale virgin forests clearing to produce tobacco leaves exported to Europe and America. The Dutch then realised they cannot clear the land unlimitedly. In 1880, the fallow system was introduced. The land is cultivated once for tobacco and left fallow for 8 years. Thus, each year only a tenth of the area was used for tobacco production.
Cleared jungles
The 1890 Koloniaal Verslag (colonial report) reported that the area of the East coast of Sumatra (Deli, Padang Bedagai, Serdang, Landkat, Batu Bara, Labuhan Batu & Asahan afdeeling) had established a total of 232 estates/companies with a total of 426,000 hectares of land concession.
The east coast of Sumatra was then known as Cultuurgebied, the plantation belt. The areas had been carved up with concessions for tobacco and rubber, as shown in this map from 1920.
The plantation belt of the East Coast of Sumatra in 1920. The yellow areas are for tobacco and green areas are for rubber.
A closer look on the map for the afdeeling of Serdang, about 85% of the area had already been given to various companies. The land was divided into parcels, each with a company’s name.
A map of the Serdang division. All lands were parcelled and allocated to companies.
It is challenging to estimate the amount of deforested areas, but most lands on the East coast of Sumatra had already been cut up as concessions to European companies since 1870s.
Karl Pelzer’s study using data of 1940 showed that in the two largest tobacco production area (Deli and Serdang afdeeling), 61% of the land was used for tobacco production, 31% not being used, and only 8% under forest. So more than 90% of the area had already been cleared.
All products from the land were exported. Feldwick reported the following principal articles exported from the east coast of Sumatra in 1915:
Kerosene, 140,280,021 litres; benzine and gasolene, 84,600,762 litres; liquid fuel, 6,296,20 litres; forest products, 6,006,621 kg; , rubber: Hevea, 9,085,943 kg; Ficus plantation, 441,222 kg; Ficus jungle, 32,213 kg; other sorts, 1,693 kg; Copra, 5,105,240 kg; gambier, 2, 124,979; gutta-percha, 583,421 kg; charcoal, 916,704 kg; Coffee: Liberia, 2,174,106 kg; Robusta, 1,188,552 kg ; Java, 11,047 kg; other sorts, 97,264 kg; black pepper, 1,487,555 kg; Penang nuts, 4,006,294 kg; rattan, 4,517,462 kg: sago flour, 176,586 kg; Deli tobacco leaf, 20,821,722 kg; tea leaves, 638, 118 kg ; trassi, 8,717,755 kg; salt or dried fish, 26,092,005 kg; fresh fruit, 47,092 kg.
Plantation was a big investment. As reported further by Feldwick:
At the end of 1915, the total amount was estimated at over f 200,000,000. Of this sum, tobacco claimed about 46,000,000, of which f 40,000,000 represented Dutch money, and f 4,665,000 British. Coffee and rubber absorbed about f 124,000, 000, and of this Dutch investments aggregated over f 62,000,000 and British f 53,645,932. The money in tea stood at f 7,170,000, nearly f 6,000,000 of which British capital. Coconuts, coffee, gambier, and oil palms have also attracted foreign capital.
The Americans were in as well with the Hollandsch Amerikaansche Plantage Maatschappij (later became the United States Rubber Plantation Inc.) in Kisaran. The Belgians had Société Financière des Caoutchoucs (Socfin) with oil palm plantations in Asahan.
The following graph illustrated the area harvested for the main commodities in the east coast.
Tobacco was the main product, reaching a peak in 1910, and soon rubber took over.
Overall, I estimated by 1940, over 1 million hectares of the land in the east coast of Sumatra had been deforested by colonial planters. And all of the monies go to foreign companies.
Thee Kian Wee summarised it as
In 1938 this region, with an area of only 1.7 percent of the whole territory of the country and a population of only 2.5 percent of its total population, accounted for not less than 21 percent of the country‘s total exports.
Finally on the extinction of animals, Albert Frys-Wyssling, the father of molecular biologist who worked for AVROS in Medan in early 1930s wrote:
the original large animal fauna of the Sumatran lowland forests with elephants, rhinos, tapir and orangutans had long been expelled from the cultivated land of the east coast, but the small remnant of the jungle had given the tigers and their feeding base of wild boars a shelter in the middle of the plantation area.
Ladislao Szekely in Tropical Fever wrote:
Dark and precipitous, the fringe of the forest reared skyward. Tomorrow those trees, too, would lie felled on the ground. With no mercy, no compassion, the human will here squander its energy. A few years hence bungalows would stand here, tennis courts and streets would be built, automobiles would be tearing along and factory chimneys smoking.
Only yesterday the bloodthirsty tiger had here mangled his booty; frightened the herd of deer had fled; quietly and majestically the rulers of the desert, the elephants, had paced through their realm.
However, we need to remember that forests are not important, just money is important! Afterall, we need to buy a car every year and new computers, playstations, phones and more and more and more of NADA!
"Better eat cassava but Independent than eating steak but become Dutch servant."
- Soekarno Indonesian leader of revolution againts Netherlands-
😎🇮🇩🇯🇵👍
Stop waving our flag thank you.
What if the British handed over Hong Kong to Taiwan instead of the PRC
You so badass, great leader.
@Indoraptor UTTP THTDC They still will and the -Biden- Harris administration will do nothing.
"Absolutely impossible"? Just you wait untill my campaign for prime minister starts
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
The Dutch empire truly reflective to the Dutch culture/attitude. They only took the trading post that is significant to their trading purposes (VOC).
I rather be Dutch then fundamentalist Islamist.
I love how the thumbnail paints the ocean orange as if the dutch have already destroyed the sea
Didn’t destroyed sea but we did mastered it. Literally because we can make land out of water
This whole video is about:
*G E K O L O N I S E E R D*
You Dutch and Colombian?
@@davidpombos2910 yes
Want spices?
*welcome to dutch east indies*
@@L.A.ismyname nice, not a common combination
No one:
The Dutch: GEKOLONISEERD!!!!
New Netherlands wasn't just what is now New York. It included New Jersey, Delaware and parts of Connecticut. New Jersey and Delaware were called New Amstel.
My great grandfather Pierre Cresson was Peter Stuyvesant's adjutant and was sent to Southern New Jersey and Delaware to chase the Swedes out. He didn't do too good a job since there is a Swedesboro New Jersey today and Swedish town names in Delaware. While there he purchased a lot of land in South Jersey. He was the founder of today's Woodbury in Gloucester County. There is also a town in Pennsylvania south of Philadelphia named Cresson.
My other great grandfather David De Marest was a magistrate of Haarlem. He owned 5000 acres in Northern New Jersey near the New York border. (there were many French Huguenots living in The Netherlands as refugees. Peter Minuit, the first Governor General of New Netherlands was a French Huguenot. There are quite a few towns in New Jersey and New York named for these refugees.) Minuit returned later as the leader of a Swedish colonial executive.
Today's New York and New Jersey also have quite a few Dutch Reformed churches. Rutgers University was once a part of the Dutch church along with New Brunswick Theological Seminary next door. The University was separated and given to New Jersey's state college system. There is a statue of Prince William the Silent between the two campuses.
It's interesting to wonder what this region would be like if the British hadn't stolen the colony in 1664. Would we still speak Dutch? My grandfather spoke a derivative called Jersey Dutch. It is still spoken today by some Ramapo Indians. There are members of the tribe with Dutch names. The region would still be the financial power of the US. The Dutch started the Stock Exchange. They even gave the financial district it's name, Wall Street, named because there really was a wall that ran along the water front.
It would certainly be a different place than it is today.
The map used must be from or is adapted from one made before 2011.
I also know that South Sudan exists
@@mrtoasteer3561 Even in 2020, so many maps still don't have it. Same with Serbia and Montenegro. Montenegro became independent in 2006, thats 14 years ago!
@Heberth R. ........................................................First of all Serbia and Montenegro *_formally_* broke up with Montenegro so not even the Serbian Government recognizes that, AND Serbia has no control whatsoever of Kosovo, not matter how much they claim it.
it's pre-ww2 borders
@@Grampa_Swood One of the maps did. I meant the one shown first.
The dutch actually took over Britain, should include it
Wait we did?
Willem 3 van oranje is getrouwd met de dochter van de koning van engeland ( die katholiek was ) het volk wou geen katholieke koning dus hebben ze hem afgezet en zo werd hij koning van engeland en stadhouder van nederland
Greetings from Parijs van Java, Indonesia
I always see that Dutch Morroco colony, does anyone know what it's called and its history????
the Dutch owned Spitsbergen, and a house on Nova Zembla. The Dutch are like the Ferengi of Star Trek. Trade is everything.
Ferengi is the south-east Asian name for the Franks. The Franks are also the most important of the Germanic tribes that gave rise to the Dutch 1000 years ago.
@@roodborstkalf9664
The franks are celts lol
So basically,
*G E K O L O N I S E E R D*
Z E G M A K K E R !
Good plan, we might put it into practice😂😂👀👀👀👀
Besides an orange dot on some of the maps you used, you complete forgot to mention the Arctic areas (mainly Spitsbergen, but also Novaya Zemlya (Nova Zembla) and a few other islands in the area)
0:10 its False, the three islands at the bottom is still the Netherlands, the islands you called are no longer in “possession” of the Netherlands.
Dutch Empire reuniting today? I'd be compelled to look up my widely scattered relatives!
I'm an Indonesian expat working in multinational company in Amsterdam... i love both Indonesia and The Netherlands.. but i have a rather sensitive question for the Dutch which i'm genuinely curious about... the Dutch colonised Indonesia for hundreds of years for its spices... but... how come your foods are still boring (typically bread and cheese and pindakaas for lunch???)... i mean...bruh why? Waarom? Where is the spices?! Didn't you learn how to innovate the taste of your food with the spices you got?? 😆 my fellow expats from eastern european countries complain too about the foods that the most dutch eat everyday... i tried the dutch way earlier and my tongue is numb because they are tasteless... (sorry if you are offended, im just curious) 😆
If you eat crap most of the time, then you can appriciate the good stuff even more :D. It might have to do with wanting to save money on everything. Our typical diet is a cheap one.
It's because the spices were very expensive, meaning most of the Dutch population didn't have access to them.
The species we imported were very expensive. Today there is still a saying that goes: 'dat is peperduur' wich translates to: that is pepper expensive. And our cuisine is also very cheap and simple because wealth inequality was a big thing and the ordinary citizen just didn't have a lot of money.
at least they have kue lebaran
wkwkwk mantap bang
To answer the question in the title: we'd be in a heap of trouble with the United Nations
Not if we say its a reunification (big brain idea)
You forgot to mention New Zealand since it's named after the Dutch provence "Zeeland" and is still spelled with a Z(ealand) and not with an S(ealand).
And Australia and Tasmania, those were discovered by Abel Tasman, but the dutch didn't see trade possebillities, and let them be. The other colonies were meant for trade or slavery (which was back than trade)
"America, did you forget your Dutch history?"
I love the orange statue of liberty
Dutch:take a small zone
Dutch at indochina: *TAKE ALL INDONESIA*
Stroop susu is reason enough to want all of Indonesia.
Yups, before they only had small post trade in Batavia and Ambon, only in 3 centuries, they gain Indonesia 🙄
0:29 G E K O L O N I S E E R D
The Netherlands: Mr. Worldwide
Also, I have a question:
What if all Southeast Asia nations (ASEAN) united today?
Civil war?
@@tmsupreme7763 nah they're chill
@@comradekenobi6908 ah good.
@Blue-Creeper UTTP THDTC the South East Asians are pretty tame guys compared to the Balkans though
@@comradekenobi6908 But uniting them?
I see, you like jungle warfare eh?
Dutch have a plan
As a Malaysian, I would love to have my country colonised and taken care off
What?
U forget to add Engeland we "invaded" them
Where did you get the ten trillion GDP figure for India? Swear its like 2.7trillion.
It looks like he is using GDP numbers based on purchasing power parity rather than nominal GDP.
2.96 approx.
When you are so early nothing is there to say
Except Gekoloniseerd
7:41 That is not really true though. Right now, Catholics are the largest religious group in the Netherlands, making up 24% of the population. Also, Christians no longer make up the majority of the people. Today, 51% of the Dutch population is secularised and doesn't really have a religion
Redrawing the world's borders based on languages.
For example, France+part of Belgium+part of Switzerland, the Netherlands+part of Belgium, Germany+Austria, etc...
There is one problem, do Michael countries like the Netherlands jas more then one language
@@pokemonoud534
This is not the problem, this is exactly the request!
In most multilingual countries, the different languages are separated geographically. That's what is interesting to see.
As a Brazilian I can say that the Dutch rule in here was actually batter than the portuguese, by that time the Dutch Brazil was way richer than the portuguese. And they also founded some pretty cool cities such as Recife, Olinda and São Luís. Give it a search
Só foi por causa do governante do momento, a colonização holandesa é uma das piores possíveis pra colônia.
Eles não fizeram melhor que os portugueses ,eles roubaram melhor.
O brasileiro tem sempre a mania de pensar que se fosse colonizado por este e aquele estaria melhor ,dê graças por ter um país continental, não saberem o que fazer com ele é outra coisa.
@@joaoteixeira7410 Mano, concordo mas se tú tiver falando de mim, eu só tava tentando ensinar um pouquinho de história pra esses gringos aí e pra eles descobrirem que tem algumas outras coisas além de Rio de Janeiro aqui
@@mattcintra8964 estou falando no geral se você não é nenhum desses peço desculpa.👍
"Daar was a brief overview" Did I hear a bit of Dutch there?
Dutch empire : *reunited*
Random Indonesian : AGUS, GET THE BAMBOO RUNCING AGUS
At 2:50 it is stated the Dutch were briefly in South Africa. They were there from 1652 till 1795, that is not really briefly is it? Then Britain guarded it briefly until the Brits took over completely in 1806. Afrikaans is the old Ducth language still spoken today in Soith Africa. If the Dutch were only briefly there then the language would not have survived till this day.