when I used to train in/spar against Wing Chun (primarily Moy Yat & Leung Ting/K.Kernspecht/EBMAS lines) practitioners they used to slam their shins against the opponents lead leg upon entry into striking range as a low line attack(Chi Gerk) simultaneously as the high line attack occurs. However as I watch your videos, I noticed the attacks are basically just all high line attacks only. I was wondering if there was a reason for this like something in Chinese I'm missing, cultural, or in the rule set or since I don't think "Chi Gerk" is something specific to the Moy Yat/ Leung Ting systems. Reply
@@weaponman3872 yeah it's kind of sad to see honestly. Wing Chun utilizes the fingers a lot which you really can't do with a boxing glove on so they're essentially neutering themselves. they should have used an MMA style of glove instead that way the hands are still protected, but can still use their fingers for trapping, catches, redirects and stuff
Why is jerry so obsessed with “trapping”?. Trapping is part of the game in Wc but it’s about striking mainly, good wing chun striking should result in an opponents bridges being controlled or “trapped” as we hit. Btw, wing chun has hooks/uppercuts, I don’t know who you learnt from but just throwing straight punches especially when a circular or diagonal shot is more appropriate isn’t a sound strategy. The only guys who say Wc doesn’t have these angles are people who’ve never studied the art or only practiced it for a short time.
Hi I just started Wing Chun my self 3 weeks ago, I really liked the wing chun vs mui tie no kicks. The wing chun guy with yellow shirt stayed in form very well. Your channel made me want to start martial arts thanks!
Hi, don't learn and practice.mainstream Wing Chun because it is Unscientific and different from the original WC. It can distort your arms and make you worse than the untrained you. I'm the first author to reveal this.
Look up a old clip called Wing Chun (André Balschmieter) vs. Kickboxer (unknown). The kickboxer is not the best, also intimidated, the WC clearly has allot of sparring under his belt. It's honestly the best WC representation I have seen in sparring that actually looked like WC, undiluted from kickboxing/muay thai etc He's very aggressive without over committing. He specifically uses his front foot as a jab the whole time, which is lacking in nearly all WC vs vids. Picking his moment to move in, like a Cobra waiting to strike.
Proper chain punching involves controlling the opponent’s bridges (arms) at the wrist while simultaneously attacking with the other hand. The primary objective is to disrupt the opponent’s balance, making it difficult for them to counter or defend effectively. Hand grappling enhances this by allowing the practitioner to sense and neutralize the opponent’s force. Skillful control of the arms not only weakens the opponent’s structure but also creates opportunities for sweeps, joint locks, and throws, adding versatility to the attack.
A good master who teaches Tai Chi in a practical way is Sifu Niko. He shows the difference between drills and practice in his video "Tai Chi Sucks For Fighting? WRONG you're just doing it wrong!" and a sparring in "Taiji Sparring: How Facing a Punching Partner Elevates Your Practice". Sorry if I'm talking about Tai Chi instead of Wing Chun.
@FightCommentary when I used to train in/spar against Wing Chun (primarily Moy Yat & Leung Ting/K.Kernspecht/EBMAS lines) practitioners they used to slam their shins against the opponents lead leg upon entry into striking range as a low line attack(Chi Gerk) simultaneously as the high line attack occurs. However as I watch your videos, I noticed the attacks are basically just all high line attacks only. I was wondering if there was a reason for this like something in Chinese I'm missing, cultural, or in the rule set or since I don't think "Chi Gerk" is something specific to the Moy Yat/ Leung Ting systems.
Good stuff. Tangling peoples lets up, while they got a hand in their face is a big part of the pressure game. There’s no reason for others not doing it, other than they just don’t train it. It’s also not something unique to Chi Gerk. Look at Chinese / Mongolian Wrestling, it’s almost all leg hooks, leg traps, sweeps. Chi Gerk is just an overly simplified version of that. The guy should constantly feel like he’s stepping around pot holes, then he can’t really 100% get his striking game going because he’s constantly worried about where his feet are. The wooden dummy drives a lot of this home. WC is constantly two things going on at once. Grappling and striking, often at the same time. You kick while latching on to both hands. You strike while latched onto one of their hands. You latch one of your legs onto their legs, while striking or clinching the neck. People think its just straight blast punching but thats not really enough to overwhelm most people with any experience. You overwhelm them by giving them multiple different things at different heights to think about. As a boxer… Lomachenko incorporates a lot of this. His background is Sambo/Judo though. One of his best moves, He’ll latch onto one of their gloves when they cover up, and keep a hand in their face, while stepping around their body. By the time they uncover, he’s almost behind them. They had no clue because the hand pressuring against their gloves made it feel like he’s still standing in front of them
I was particularly impressed by the guy at 4:26. He looked so fluid and natural doing his wing chun moves. And to top it off, he actually got the better of the boxer at the end.
Jerry, being square doesn't matter in a fight without takedowns. People instinctively stand square when launching punch combos because it gives equal hip power and range to left and right arms.
So glad to see Wing Chun no longer just asserting they are great. Now most of the boxing was not really par but they seemed to be having a fine time of it. I am a bit worried that the last 3 were not good equal contests with size issues and other things going on. (For the Wing chun guy that kept going to the eyes: you want to poke eyes, that is not a special talent or skill - that a 5 year old can do. I am not impresse. It is just the same as charges and goin shots are just on this same level and just as unimpressive)
I'm taught that the Wing Chun straight line blast is not learn't for doing lots of small fast punches, but its for doing single super fast punches. Like how a boxer uses a speed ball. I see Wing Chun practitions using it as an opener. Seems like a bad idea to me.
Overall sloppy but kudos for trying in a controlled setting and not instantly forget what they learnt. The orange t-shirt dude chain punching is the most sloppy. It is as if he has an idea of "I am going to do this right now" preset in his head before acting, rather than using the skill toolbox fit a given situation.
In my experience it is hard to chase down people with wing chun in a sports fighting context. My perspective on that is Wing Chun is a self defense art and people will come to you, or there is no reason to defend self.
That's too simplistic a view. If the other fighter can move in and out and you cannot, he will have initiative and will defeat you. Not every attacker with rush straight at you like in the movies.
So wingchun works. You see some wingchun guys doing better than others . I' m happy when this channel shows the good and the bad.On the second to last match, when the boxer weaves or throws his head back the wingchun man can charge down the center line and knock him down. So the old" everyone" with theee months boxing experience could knockout a 9:47 wingchun guy has been proven wrong.😊😊😊
Wing Chun CAN work. Just because a dancer can beat a boxer means that Dancing works and is good for self-defense. Yeah, out of 100 wing chun guys, you have 1 being to stand face to face against an amateur boxer. Despite showing the good and bad, this is still cherry picking. If we were to pick a random Wing Chun fight out of 100, we would only have a 1 out of 100 chance to get a video of Wing Chun doing good. This video wrongly represents the effectiveness of Wing Chun in terms of proportions. The video here currently shows a ratio of 4 out of 6 Wing Chun wins, even though the real proportion is 1/100. If to you, disproving a joke is a huge achievement for Wing Chun, I can't visualize low the bar is. It's like being happy after getting 60/100 on an exam despite the average score being 80/100.
Bicep trapping is applied in boxing as well, a good example of this is in Oleksandr Usyk and Vasiliy Lomachenko's fights. When they are up close they sometimes use it to control the other guy to stop them from throwing multiple punches or to pull down their guard to get a free punch in
@@hellohennessy3462 That is not the fault of Wing Chun, it is simply due to the inconsistent nature of WC schools. It doesn't mean the art itself doesn't work for its intended purpose. Wing Chun was not designed for sport fighting. No, I'm not one those 'Too deadly for the ring' guys, however it is true that a lot of WC techniques are dangerous, as they were designed to incapacitate the opponent, ending the fight quickly. What I mean when I say that Wing Chun was not designed for sport fighting is that WC was designed for self defense against street hooligans and gangsters, not trained martial artists. Of course WC won't be as complete as martial arts designed for sports, and evolved for sports, like MT. However, it works for its intended purpose, so it's not fair to say that WC doesn't work. What's more, there is nothing stopping WC from simply evolving to match combat sport martial arts like MT and kickboxing. Stop it with your Sinophobic drivel. Chinese Martial Arts work.
@@SirPlusOfCamelot If WC was designed for 'self defense', how come the chinese government got mma fighters to train their soldiers instead of wing chun for the india-china border? This whole idea that chinese martial arts are for life and death fights and others are 'sport' is just coping with the fact chinese martial arts arent as effective. Muay thai has been used in war. Wing chun hasnt. Even the Chinese government knows that. MMA is the closest to real as you can get but wing chun still fails there. Even in the video when they chain punch the opponent just laughs. If wing chun was as good as you think it is it would dominate but it just doesnt
@@SirPlusOfCamelot ok, if you dont tap out of an arm bar your arm breaks. if you dont tap out of a choke hold, you go to sleep. Ever been in a guillotine choke? Nothing wing chun has is more dangerous than any other martial art. CMA just arent that good. Even the chinese government knows this which is why they got mma fighters to train their soldiers in the china-india skirmishes
Like all arts wing chun needs to change to be more effective, I use wing chun very well with boxers, kickers because I have a good understanding of wot work, wot doesn’t
Why does everyone have to play by boxer’s rules? WC and MMA guys train punch, kick, throw, etc and now they can only punch??? 😂 I think it’s time for these boxers to start allowing kicking and throwing, that way we can really see how “effective” boxing really is
Thinking and using only chain punch for everything o ly make wi g chin more stupid. Chain punch is not THE punch. It is only a snall part of wi gchun opportunity punch and use only in a close ranch and when you have the chance...
In my opinion, their Wing Chun is a "drill mimic". In according with master Mark Stas in his video "The SECRET behind the CHAIN PUNCH PRINCIPLE", chain punches are simply punches delivered in succession. The chain punch is not a single technique consisting of the straight punch but it's a principle of how to deliver punches one in succession, that means that the techniques must vary. The body shouldn't stay in a fixed position. Ironically, boxing is doing Wing Chun: chain punch, cross counters, anticipate the opponent, or at 2:38 when the boxer are able even to block a punch with a single hand, and so on.
You asserts that Wing Chun practitioners are merely "drill mimics" and that 99% of people don't practice it "properly." This sweeping generalization lacks evidence and unfairly discredits the many practitioners who have trained deeply in Wing Chun. Dismissing most practitioners without concrete examples implies a misunderstanding of the training spectrum and how different schools and instructors emphasize various techniques or applications. The use of Master Mark Stas’s video as a source is also selective. It's entirely possible that Mark Stas has one interpretation of chain punching in Wing Chun, but there is a range of respected approaches to this technique, and interpretations vary widely. This is essentially saying that Dancing is a legit martial art because a very good dancer knows how to fight using his dancing. You fall into an associative fallacy by implying that because boxing and Wing Chun have some shared techniques, boxing is essentially “doing Wing Chun.” Just because two arts share similar concepts (e.g., punching in succession) doesn’t mean one is "doing" the other. These techniques evolved independently in different contexts, and while they may have overlapping principles, they serve different purposes within each art. This appropriation diminishes the distinct training methods, historical context, and applications that make boxing and Wing Chun unique. In trying to validate Wing Chun, you are actually dilutes its identity by claiming that common techniques are evidence of a deeper similarity. Ironically, if we look closely at the video, it’s not boxing that appears to be "doing Wing Chun," but rather, Wing Chun fighters incorporating boxing-style movements. Traditional Wing Chun training does not emphasize several key aspects of modern boxing, such as a squared stance, horizontal punches, head movement, or springy footwork. Yet, in the video, the Wing Chun fighter is seen using these exact techniques. If these fighters had never seen or trained with boxers, it’s doubtful they would instinctively develop this kind of movement and have plenty examples of this.
@@antoniostrina82 i would assume he can't. Or examples would be something like what we saw on the channel - wing chun practitioner significantly bigger and/or got lucky. In second examples both wing chun guy and his opponent very inexperienced, in average. I saw one example of wing xhun guy who looked solid -qi la la. And it tells everything we need to know about methodology of wing chun
@@dzen_dzenkazan8050 I think so. In fact, the only video I found that talks about the right meaning of chain punch was the one I've mentioned in my previous comment. As usual, I see that that user's channel has no martial content, just two videos about video games (a classic in the troll behaviour) called "devlog" but without any comment. Sounds like the person is a troll or a very young guy who's talking following his/her own fallacies and searching for a flame. Back in topic. Qi La La is a good Wing Chun practitioner or master, just like master Stas. Maybe they understand that traditional drills must be "translated" into an actual fight. This reminds me of Tang Lang from Alexander Petty from The Ravenswood Academy, who showed his skills in an actual fight and this channel commented on his fight. The only problem is that there are few people who understand how to change drills to actual moves.
Wing Chun is mainly chain punching and straight kicks. That's it. No need to master the 3 hand forms, the wooden dummy, stick form, and knife form. It's all a waste of time.
I have some Qi La La footage that I haven't looked at yet, so I'll hopefully get to that soon. Stay tuned!
when I used to train in/spar against Wing Chun (primarily Moy Yat & Leung Ting/K.Kernspecht/EBMAS lines) practitioners they used to slam their shins against the opponents lead leg upon entry into striking range as a low line attack(Chi Gerk) simultaneously as the high line attack occurs. However as I watch your videos, I noticed the attacks are basically just all high line attacks only. I was wondering if there was a reason for this like something in Chinese I'm missing, cultural, or in the rule set or since I don't think "Chi Gerk" is something specific to the Moy Yat/ Leung Ting systems.
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Wing Chung vs. Bare-knuckle boxing!
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It should work better without gloves
@@weaponman3872 yeah it's kind of sad to see honestly. Wing Chun utilizes the fingers a lot which you really can't do with a boxing glove on so they're essentially neutering themselves. they should have used an MMA style of glove instead that way the hands are still protected, but can still use their fingers for trapping, catches, redirects and stuff
@@Atticus_Moore yes they were good but it's just boxing at this point
Why is jerry so obsessed with “trapping”?. Trapping is part of the game in Wc but it’s about striking mainly, good wing chun striking should result in an opponents bridges being controlled or “trapped” as we hit. Btw, wing chun has hooks/uppercuts, I don’t know who you learnt from but just throwing straight punches especially when a circular or diagonal shot is more appropriate isn’t a sound strategy. The only guys who say Wc doesn’t have these angles are people who’ve never studied the art or only practiced it for a short time.
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Hi I just started Wing Chun my self 3 weeks ago, I really liked the wing chun vs mui tie no kicks. The wing chun guy with yellow shirt stayed in form very well. Your channel made me want to start martial arts thanks!
Hi, don't learn and practice.mainstream Wing Chun because it is Unscientific and different from the original WC. It can distort your arms and make you worse than the untrained you. I'm the first author to reveal this.
Look up a old clip called Wing Chun (André Balschmieter) vs. Kickboxer (unknown). The kickboxer is not the best, also intimidated, the WC clearly has allot of sparring under his belt.
It's honestly the best WC representation I have seen in sparring that actually looked like WC, undiluted from kickboxing/muay thai etc He's very aggressive without over committing.
He specifically uses his front foot as a jab the whole time, which is lacking in nearly all WC vs vids. Picking his moment to move in, like a Cobra waiting to strike.
I will take a look!
Of course the best wing chun representation is when the opponent is not the best 😂😂😂
Word. 💯🧠
@@HiroIndo16Because every Wing Chun fighter you see in vids is definitely a world class pro? The logic goes both ways.
Couldn't fund the match. Can you please share it?
Proper chain punching involves controlling the opponent’s bridges (arms) at the wrist while simultaneously attacking with the other hand. The primary objective is to disrupt the opponent’s balance, making it difficult for them to counter or defend effectively.
Hand grappling enhances this by allowing the practitioner to sense and neutralize the opponent’s force. Skillful control of the arms not only weakens the opponent’s structure but also creates opportunities for sweeps, joint locks, and throws, adding versatility to the attack.
Some impressive WC on display!
A good master who teaches Tai Chi in a practical way is Sifu Niko. He shows the difference between drills and practice in his video "Tai Chi Sucks For Fighting? WRONG you're just doing it wrong!" and a sparring in "Taiji Sparring: How Facing a Punching Partner Elevates Your Practice". Sorry if I'm talking about Tai Chi instead of Wing Chun.
I observe most of the wing chung people dont use elbow block.they should use that.its really effective
@FightCommentary when I used to train in/spar against Wing Chun (primarily Moy Yat & Leung Ting/K.Kernspecht/EBMAS lines) practitioners they used to slam their shins against the opponents lead leg upon entry into striking range as a low line attack(Chi Gerk) simultaneously as the high line attack occurs. However as I watch your videos, I noticed the attacks are basically just all high line attacks only. I was wondering if there was a reason for this like something in Chinese I'm missing, cultural, or in the rule set or since I don't think "Chi Gerk" is something specific to the Moy Yat/ Leung Ting systems.
Super interesting! Do you have any footage of some of the sparring you had in wing chun? I would love to feature it!
Good stuff. Tangling peoples lets up, while they got a hand in their face is a big part of the pressure game. There’s no reason for others not doing it, other than they just don’t train it. It’s also not something unique to Chi Gerk. Look at Chinese / Mongolian Wrestling, it’s almost all leg hooks, leg traps, sweeps. Chi Gerk is just an overly simplified version of that. The guy should constantly feel like he’s stepping around pot holes, then he can’t really 100% get his striking game going because he’s constantly worried about where his feet are. The wooden dummy drives a lot of this home. WC is constantly two things going on at once. Grappling and striking, often at the same time. You kick while latching on to both hands. You strike while latched onto one of their hands. You latch one of your legs onto their legs, while striking or clinching the neck. People think its just straight blast punching but thats not really enough to overwhelm most people with any experience. You overwhelm them by giving them multiple different things at different heights to think about. As a boxer… Lomachenko incorporates a lot of this. His background is Sambo/Judo though. One of his best moves, He’ll latch onto one of their gloves when they cover up, and keep a hand in their face, while stepping around their body. By the time they uncover, he’s almost behind them. They had no clue because the hand pressuring against their gloves made it feel like he’s still standing in front of them
@@FightCommentary unfortunately no. I only did the 1st 5 program levels of WT before I decided it wasn't for me. But I will ask around...
I was particularly impressed by the guy at 4:26. He looked so fluid and natural doing his wing chun moves. And to top it off, he actually got the better of the boxer at the end.
Yeah, that guy is super impressive. I will definitely feature more from him! BTW, are you the Mike from Capoeira or a different Mike?
@ No, I’m a different Mike. Sorry.
Chain punching or touching?
Its hard to do a lot of wing chun parry or any deflecting technique with big padded gloves. It can work but you just have to adapt.
Jerry, being square doesn't matter in a fight without takedowns. People instinctively stand square when launching punch combos because it gives equal hip power and range to left and right arms.
If someone flurries back when you’re squared, you eat whatever comes through harder and get pushed off your base more easily
The last wing chun guy should of wore medeval armour. So thar tae kwon do guy would beat himself up hitting the armour. 😂😂😂
So glad to see Wing Chun no longer just asserting they are great. Now most of the boxing was not really par but they seemed to be having a fine time of it. I am a bit worried that the last 3 were not good equal contests with size issues and other things going on.
(For the Wing chun guy that kept going to the eyes: you want to poke eyes, that is not a special talent or skill - that a 5 year old can do. I am not impresse. It is just the same as charges and goin shots are just on this same level and just as unimpressive)
I'm taught that the Wing Chun straight line blast is not learn't for doing lots of small fast punches, but its for doing single super fast punches. Like how a boxer uses a speed ball. I see Wing Chun practitions using it as an opener. Seems like a bad idea to me.
Overall sloppy but kudos for trying in a controlled setting and not instantly forget what they learnt. The orange t-shirt dude chain punching is the most sloppy. It is as if he has an idea of "I am going to do this right now" preset in his head before acting, rather than using the skill toolbox fit a given situation.
In my experience it is hard to chase down people with wing chun in a sports fighting context. My perspective on that is Wing Chun is a self defense art and people will come to you, or there is no reason to defend self.
That's too simplistic a view. If the other fighter can move in and out and you cannot, he will have initiative and will defeat you. Not every attacker with rush straight at you like in the movies.
So wingchun works. You see some wingchun guys doing better than others . I' m happy when this channel shows the good and the bad.On the second to last match, when the boxer weaves or throws his head back the wingchun man can charge down the center line and knock him down. So the old" everyone" with theee months boxing experience could knockout a 9:47 wingchun guy has been proven wrong.😊😊😊
Wing Chun CAN work. Just because a dancer can beat a boxer means that Dancing works and is good for self-defense.
Yeah, out of 100 wing chun guys, you have 1 being to stand face to face against an amateur boxer.
Despite showing the good and bad, this is still cherry picking. If we were to pick a random Wing Chun fight out of 100, we would only have a 1 out of 100 chance to get a video of Wing Chun doing good. This video wrongly represents the effectiveness of Wing Chun in terms of proportions. The video here currently shows a ratio of 4 out of 6 Wing Chun wins, even though the real proportion is 1/100.
If to you, disproving a joke is a huge achievement for Wing Chun, I can't visualize low the bar is. It's like being happy after getting 60/100 on an exam despite the average score being 80/100.
Bicep trapping is applied in boxing as well, a good example of this is in Oleksandr Usyk and Vasiliy Lomachenko's fights. When they are up close they sometimes use it to control the other guy to stop them from throwing multiple punches or to pull down their guard to get a free punch in
@@hellohennessy3462 That is not the fault of Wing Chun, it is simply due to the inconsistent nature of WC schools. It doesn't mean the art itself doesn't work for its intended purpose. Wing Chun was not designed for sport fighting. No, I'm not one those 'Too deadly for the ring' guys, however it is true that a lot of WC techniques are dangerous, as they were designed to incapacitate the opponent, ending the fight quickly. What I mean when I say that Wing Chun was not designed for sport fighting is that WC was designed for self defense against street hooligans and gangsters, not trained martial artists. Of course WC won't be as complete as martial arts designed for sports, and evolved for sports, like MT. However, it works for its intended purpose, so it's not fair to say that WC doesn't work. What's more, there is nothing stopping WC from simply evolving to match combat sport martial arts like MT and kickboxing.
Stop it with your Sinophobic drivel. Chinese Martial Arts work.
@@SirPlusOfCamelot If WC was designed for 'self defense', how come the chinese government got mma fighters to train their soldiers instead of wing chun for the india-china border? This whole idea that chinese martial arts are for life and death fights and others are 'sport' is just coping with the fact chinese martial arts arent as effective. Muay thai has been used in war. Wing chun hasnt. Even the Chinese government knows that. MMA is the closest to real as you can get but wing chun still fails there. Even in the video when they chain punch the opponent just laughs. If wing chun was as good as you think it is it would dominate but it just doesnt
@@SirPlusOfCamelot ok, if you dont tap out of an arm bar your arm breaks. if you dont tap out of a choke hold, you go to sleep. Ever been in a guillotine choke? Nothing wing chun has is more dangerous than any other martial art. CMA just arent that good. Even the chinese government knows this which is why they got mma fighters to train their soldiers in the china-india skirmishes
Like all arts wing chun needs to change to be more effective, I use wing chun very well with boxers, kickers because I have a good understanding of wot work, wot doesn’t
Why does everyone have to play by boxer’s rules?
WC and MMA guys train punch, kick, throw, etc and now they can only punch??? 😂 I think it’s time for these boxers to start allowing kicking and throwing, that way we can really see how “effective” boxing really is
Wing Chun people need to learn some head movement.
In general, they just need to learn. Look at some of the comments on this video. Wing chunners who’ve never done non-wing chun.
@@FightCommentary ouch xD
Boxers really need to start learning how to do anything besides punching. They should allow kicking and throwing, not just punching lol
Thinking and using only chain punch for everything o ly make wi g chin more stupid. Chain punch is not THE punch. It is only a snall part of wi gchun opportunity punch and use only in a close ranch and when you have the chance...
In my opinion, their Wing Chun is a "drill mimic". In according with master Mark Stas in his video "The SECRET behind the CHAIN PUNCH PRINCIPLE", chain punches are simply punches delivered in succession. The chain punch is not a single technique consisting of the straight punch but it's a principle of how to deliver punches one in succession, that means that the techniques must vary. The body shouldn't stay in a fixed position.
Ironically, boxing is doing Wing Chun: chain punch, cross counters, anticipate the opponent, or at 2:38 when the boxer are able even to block a punch with a single hand, and so on.
You asserts that Wing Chun practitioners are merely "drill mimics" and that 99% of people don't practice it "properly." This sweeping generalization lacks evidence and unfairly discredits the many practitioners who have trained deeply in Wing Chun. Dismissing most practitioners without concrete examples implies a misunderstanding of the training spectrum and how different schools and instructors emphasize various techniques or applications.
The use of Master Mark Stas’s video as a source is also selective. It's entirely possible that Mark Stas has one interpretation of chain punching in Wing Chun, but there is a range of respected approaches to this technique, and interpretations vary widely.
This is essentially saying that Dancing is a legit martial art because a very good dancer knows how to fight using his dancing.
You fall into an associative fallacy by implying that because boxing and Wing Chun have some shared techniques, boxing is essentially “doing Wing Chun.” Just because two arts share similar concepts (e.g., punching in succession) doesn’t mean one is "doing" the other. These techniques evolved independently in different contexts, and while they may have overlapping principles, they serve different purposes within each art.
This appropriation diminishes the distinct training methods, historical context, and applications that make boxing and Wing Chun unique. In trying to validate Wing Chun, you are actually dilutes its identity by claiming that common techniques are evidence of a deeper similarity.
Ironically, if we look closely at the video, it’s not boxing that appears to be "doing Wing Chun," but rather, Wing Chun fighters incorporating boxing-style movements. Traditional Wing Chun training does not emphasize several key aspects of modern boxing, such as a squared stance, horizontal punches, head movement, or springy footwork. Yet, in the video, the Wing Chun fighter is seen using these exact techniques. If these fighters had never seen or trained with boxers, it’s doubtful they would instinctively develop this kind of movement and have plenty examples of this.
@@hellohennessy3462
Well, show me some examples of Wing Chun masters who use their technique in the right way, please.
@@antoniostrina82 i would assume he can't. Or examples would be something like what we saw on the channel - wing chun practitioner significantly bigger and/or got lucky. In second examples both wing chun guy and his opponent very inexperienced, in average.
I saw one example of wing xhun guy who looked solid -qi la la. And it tells everything we need to know about methodology of wing chun
@@dzen_dzenkazan8050
I think so. In fact, the only video I found that talks about the right meaning of chain punch was the one I've mentioned in my previous comment.
As usual, I see that that user's channel has no martial content, just two videos about video games (a classic in the troll behaviour) called "devlog" but without any comment. Sounds like the person is a troll or a very young guy who's talking following his/her own fallacies and searching for a flame.
Back in topic. Qi La La is a good Wing Chun practitioner or master, just like master Stas. Maybe they understand that traditional drills must be "translated" into an actual fight. This reminds me of Tang Lang from Alexander Petty from The Ravenswood Academy, who showed his skills in an actual fight and this channel commented on his fight.
The only problem is that there are few people who understand how to change drills to actual moves.
Wing Chun is mainly chain punching and straight kicks. That's it. No need to master the 3 hand forms, the wooden dummy, stick form, and knife form. It's all a waste of time.