I've never trained in this style or experienced 1st hand any practitioner of this style. But, I do some similar movements, which I learned in Kenpo and Aikido as a kid. At first, these types of moves didn't really work for me against real attackers. But, over the years, it became obvious that it wasn't the techniques that failed me, it was my structure. This was something Mr. Fong said in this video, and I totally agree with.
Francis Fong would absolutely annihilate anyone in this comment section. He uses Wing Chun techniques with his BJJ skills (not shown here). It’s masterful. This dude would floor any of us in a few seconds. I’d even wager someone of his skills in their prime would dominate their weight class in MMA.
Those who say Wing Chun doesn't work are only partially right. The art depends on the artist, not the other way around. And yes, everything has weaknesses and those can be overcome when you integrate different styles together. But mastery over one is important. I persoanlly integrated Wing Chun to my Karate practice and I like the results.
To be able to fight with Wing Chun the gangsters learned 6 months and then went out and fought any kind and any size of fighter in the old Hong Kong days. Once it became a corporate dojo, sticking hands art then the emphasis was no longer on real fights. It was never a ring-fighting art except for just a small number of schools. Wing Chun is just some good ideas taken from many other fighting arts. The main thing is to attack the center, the throat as every animal does. If you can't pull this off, then your Wing Chun is not good enough. You have to train it against other martial arts. Wing Chun is a super good addition to any other existing art. We had many students who were good at other martial arts including MMA who enhanced their art by learning close range in your face attacks. We viewed Wing Chun as an attack art, like what a dog does, not a blocking art which no boxer does. We attack but if countered, we don't care. Maybe 90% of people who study martial art do it for the art, for health for fitness for many reasons but never have the chance to have real fighting experience as it would probably land them in jail anyway. For tournaments, it is best to learn a tournament art. Arm bars and taking people to the ground is great for one on one but not so much if there are a few attackers, especially those who are armed. If you are with family or are older or injured, then running is not an option. Having a gun isn't allowed in many countries but where is allowed, you better know how to use it and be ready with it at all times. Once you learn any pure art then you must study what everyone else does for fighting. Judo throwing onto a nice mat is one thing but a Judo throw onto concrete is quite another. Here law enforcement people have used this art for close-range situations. Many officers also had, Judo, Karate, Boxing wrestling, and police tactics in their background. Every art is just another tool. If you make Wing Chun into a style like Donnie Yen, then it will not work. Styles don't work but attributes like good positioning, stability, speed, power, and timing are things that work. Doing art like doing a form, doesn't work. Use no style as your style. Most people also adopt Filipino arts into their curriculum as does the teacher in this video. He is also versed in MMA and other arts. If you think some art sucks, then put your words into action and challenge the good people in that art to learn why it does or doesn't work. everybody can shoot their mouth off. There are lots of super-qualified keyboard martial artists out there. Every art has it's place including dojo MMA and even arts like Tai Chi and Aikido if trained for combat. In a gun culture, learn to use a gun. In a knife culture learn to use a knife. In a culture that throws acid in your face, you better learn from those cultures too. Wing Chun should just be called close-range combat and trained that way. Once you put a label onto an art, it becomes garbage art to most people. In Hung style, the training in the old days was 10 solid years, or that art, then going out and fight. But that was the old days. Now you will either get shot or end up in jail. Don't argue with people about martial art, religion, or politics. It never helps. Don't argue with stupid people either. People like Mike Tyson, who is for real, don't argue with people who know nothing about boxing. If you can't do the walk, then don't talk.
There are many rivers that lead to the ocean. You said quite a bit. But the message is clear. No matter what you do... be humble and train. And more than anything pressure test what you "think" you know.
Ppl who have negative comments talk from a place of inexperience. If your so good and you think you can take these guys on then go to there school then tough guy
@@Tricroman most wing chun doesn’t work but that’s because most people don’t know how to apply it in real time. But my wing chun works because I tested it and know how to apply it.
This is interesting. I've liked a lot of Wing chun principles for a while, especially the contact and control aspect of it, but I've always been put off by the stance. I come from a boxing background so standing square = death. 75% of my game is centred around balance, so that base stance just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how you get to the third phase of contact without it becoming boxing. And I'm saying this as a question.
Wing Chun is a way of life not a momentary way of defence, assuming as you say training 3 times a week, one person could progress much faster then another, most people train a couple times and think this is boring this is teaching me nothing, it’s not until you feel structure in your stance and feeling the difference between internal and external power will you start to understand. You don’t train for a couple months and become ip man, you allow it to become apart of who you are and through time and muscle memory will you feel the true power of wing Chun.
@@jacksonnewman5407 " not a momentary way of defence" Does this imply that you can train Wing Chun for free? You cannot train martial art by just watching UA-cam clips. Of course, people with athletic gift will progress more quickly. How long will it take for an average guy with no athletic gift, not cripple or disabled, to be efficient in self defense, training Wing Chun? An average guy training muaythai at legit gym should hurt a Wing Chun guy who has trained for a year.
Does anyone have any tips for someone who wants to add some wing chun elements to their Muay Thai game? I’ve trained in wing chun for a total of maybe 2 hours at a seminar and I see it around a lot but I haven’t trained in it much, but I believe in the philosophy of learning as much as I can from others, so I want to incorporate more wing chun into my total striking game, but I’ve found it difficult with gloves on and in a Muay Thai setting where people tend to either be at a longer distance or clinching. Anyone have any tips?
see if there is an Inosanto Affiliate academy nearby. Most of your Thai training guys will play with WC trapping. There are lots of crossed principles.
Master Renton put it nicely once.... Wing Chun gives you a false sense of security of self defence and could be harmful if that is all you know... But it is still better than no experience at all. Practicing Wing Chun is amazing, it truly is. And whacking bob with Wing Chun style kicks, combos, chains and chins still gives that confidence you'll need in any sticky situation. I love Francis Fong work, but I really wish it wasn't against Kevin Lee. They have really good cohesion... they'd make a great movie.
Fighting against a grappler, Wing Chun is not practical alone. I watch Francis Fong's video. His MMA is Teaching MMA is mastery level. Which again comes to my point, nothing can beat MMA unless combined with grappling. I think he is combining both Wing Chun and grappling practically. 💔
Yall really need to cut it out with that nonsense, Cheung's is the one that was modified. He never paid attention in class. Too busy hanging with triads and womanizing. That's why Yip Man yelled at Andrew Ma for showing Cheung Chum Kiu, and why Wong Shun Leung refused to show him Biu Zi.
Its funny that people say that wing chun doesnt work in a fight. Of course there isnt one martial art that can beat them all. Train all of them. Get good at all of them and thats how you win in a fight.
@@AsraeaGKaletean you ever heard the full saying? The full saying is a jack of all trades is a master of none but is oftentimes better than a master of one. Silly guy
Fights most of the time are against random people that are being aggressive or someone who thinks they know but really they don’t. So working under the assumption that you’ll be fighting against a top notch fighter is just unwarranted. When you’re training, there should be a level of humbleness and self control
I am a Wing Chun guy. I actually teach it. I also am a Jiu Jitsu guy. Wing Chun works. The concepts work and the principals work. It takes time to progress from one (I hate to word it this way...) level to the next in regards to application or applying during movement and/or fighting. But it definitely works. I apply Wing Chun when I roll in Jiu Jitsu. It's amazing how empty Wing Chun works with gentle Jiu Jitsu and vice versa. Learning how to spar properly, and learning how to pressure test your system is how that is achieved. The art or system is not what stands in front of you in battle. It's the fighter. What is not shown in these "instructional" videos... are all of the movement drills that are in Wing Chun. We do not stand still.
@@calmwater2529 You Spell Jiu Jitsu the Brazilian way... in Jap its 'JuJitsu' --- I like Wing Chun. I think if you throw in some good footwork and positioning and use it with Chendokan Aikido or aggressive Aikido, or JuJitsu, it could be very effective.
just depends on the person u fight most likely they don't know how to fight!!! so u will have an edge on the attacker ok! just remember if they have a weapon or intheir emotions will get them hurt u will do what u must do to hurt them! 💯✌🏿😎🙏🏿💪🏿
Boxing 52blocks savate does works not against of knives and guns of course. Other martial arts showing off gets you punch in the face inside. No one fights southpaw to southpaw or two dead legs. fight is to kill not fight. But prison is not a life if you want you're asshole be candy.
Take what works disregard what doesn't. The problem is is that people foolishly throw the baby out with the bathwater. And result in limiting themselves
The teacher here seems fine but the senior students at the back look like they are full of ego! I see it so much with long time peeps think they are good but in reality…
That's the whole point IMO. When he is pulled, he resists from the narrow WC stance and topples forward, making Fong Sifu look great ....or he could instead use the pull to step in and punch. Then his sifu would not look so good.
There’s a reason wing Chun is illegal in ufc because it was designed to viscously incapacitate a person with no more then a few blows, in the ring you have rules, on the street if someone approached me with aggression I wouldn’t think twice, bon sao and strike
@@jacksonnewman5407 except it never works. Theres been many times wingchun masters have been given a chance to prove in the ring no holds barred and they always fail.
Sad but true. Wing chun never works no ones ever been able to make it work. Even professional fighters who have tried to make it work cant. I wish it could so bad because it looks so cool but its all BS.
Aah, yes. The classic "MmA woUlD bEaT WiNg ChUn AnY DaY" guy who judges a martial art after watching training drills videos. All martial arts have training drills. Please stop making a fool of yourself.
Pitty patty hand play. No use in a real fight. Just chk out fights in a hockey game. No way this crap works in an all out full contact fight w d attacker charging @ u throwing multiple wild punches. Chk out these real full contact sites: Offence wins. Once u go on defence like w WC, u lose. Streetbeefs Streetbeef GoPro Scrapyard GoPro Bareknuckle full contact fighting Underground Street fighting World Street fight championship etc . . .
Go tell that to UFC champions Tony Ferguson, Jon Jones and Anderson Silva, who use Wing Chun techniques to win fights. You do know Francis Fong also teaches Boxing, Muay Thai and Brazilian Jui-Jitsu at his school right? Keep talking, your arrogance and stupidity is showing.
Also you don’t see people jumping rope to win a fight either. It’s a training exercise too that you’re seeing. Wing Chun is meant for close range combat
I've never trained in this style or experienced 1st hand any practitioner of this style. But, I do some similar movements, which I learned in Kenpo and Aikido as a kid. At first, these types of moves didn't really work for me against real attackers. But, over the years, it became obvious that it wasn't the techniques that failed me, it was my structure. This was something Mr. Fong said in this video, and I totally agree with.
Structure in Wing Chun is number one. If you dont have it, its just as my master says, "rabbit fight"
These dudes live in gated communities, and practice movie kung fu. my door is always opens for you to try.
Francis Fong would absolutely annihilate anyone in this comment section. He uses Wing Chun techniques with his BJJ skills (not shown here). It’s masterful. This dude would floor any of us in a few seconds. I’d even wager someone of his skills in their prime would dominate their weight class in MMA.
What a OUTSTANDING TEACHER!!! 🔥🤙🏾
no jujitsu guy could grab him
@@thomasbelesky4260 He’s good at Ju-jitsu too.
😂
i got to see this both of these guys in person and lets just say..... these guys are legit
"the mouse trap himself"... I like that one.
i'm going to try at my next wing chun training session
Those who say Wing Chun doesn't work are only partially right. The art depends on the artist, not the other way around. And yes, everything has weaknesses and those can be overcome when you integrate different styles together. But mastery over one is important. I persoanlly integrated Wing Chun to my Karate practice and I like the results.
Karate also doesn’t work. Pick up a real combat technique next time.
@patty109109 Bruh. You're a keyboard warrior. I train MMA with Karate as my primary style.
Thank you SIFU 🙏🏼
Fundamental drills wingcun,, very nice.. I like 👍
To be able to fight with Wing Chun the gangsters learned 6 months and then went out and fought any kind and any size of fighter in the old Hong Kong days. Once it became a corporate dojo, sticking hands art then the emphasis was no longer on real fights. It was never a ring-fighting art except for just a small number of schools. Wing Chun is just some good ideas taken from many other fighting arts. The main thing is to attack the center, the throat as every animal does. If you can't pull this off, then your Wing Chun is not good enough. You have to train it against other martial arts. Wing Chun is a super good addition to any other existing art. We had many students who were good at other martial arts including MMA who enhanced their art by learning close range in your face attacks. We viewed Wing Chun as an attack art, like what a dog does, not a blocking art which no boxer does. We attack but if countered, we don't care. Maybe 90% of people who study martial art do it for the art, for health for fitness for many reasons but never have the chance to have real fighting experience as it would probably land them in jail anyway. For tournaments, it is best to learn a tournament art. Arm bars and taking people to the ground is great for one on one but not so much if there are a few attackers, especially those who are armed. If you are with family or are older or injured, then running is not an option. Having a gun isn't allowed in many countries but where is allowed, you better know how to use it and be ready with it at all times. Once you learn any pure art then you must study what everyone else does for fighting. Judo throwing onto a nice mat is one thing but a Judo throw onto concrete is quite another. Here law enforcement people have used this art for close-range situations. Many officers also had, Judo, Karate, Boxing wrestling, and police tactics in their background. Every art is just another tool. If you make Wing Chun into a style like Donnie Yen, then it will not work. Styles don't work but attributes like good positioning, stability, speed, power, and timing are things that work. Doing art like doing a form, doesn't work. Use no style as your style. Most people also adopt Filipino arts into their curriculum as does the teacher in this video. He is also versed in MMA and other arts. If you think some art sucks, then put your words into action and challenge the good people in that art to learn why it does or doesn't work. everybody can shoot their mouth off. There are lots of super-qualified keyboard martial artists out there. Every art has it's place including dojo MMA and even arts like Tai Chi and Aikido if trained for combat. In a gun culture, learn to use a gun. In a knife culture learn to use a knife. In a culture that throws acid in your face, you better learn from those cultures too. Wing Chun should just be called close-range combat and trained that way. Once you put a label onto an art, it becomes garbage art to most people. In Hung style, the training in the old days was 10 solid years, or that art, then going out and fight. But that was the old days. Now you will either get shot or end up in jail. Don't argue with people about martial art, religion, or politics. It never helps. Don't argue with stupid people either. People like Mike Tyson, who is for real, don't argue with people who know nothing about boxing. If you can't do the walk, then don't talk.
Awesome
There are many rivers that lead to the ocean. You said quite a bit. But the message is clear. No matter what you do... be humble and train. And more than anything pressure test what you "think" you know.
Damn you actually typed all this
Wise words
more like an AI bot spouting pithy half-truths.@@marvindickens7778
Ppl who have negative comments talk from a place of inexperience. If your so good and you think you can take these guys on then go to there school then tough guy
WC doesn't work in real fight.
@@Tricroman most wing chun doesn’t work but that’s because most people don’t know how to apply it in real time. But my wing chun works because I tested it and know how to apply it.
@@masterninja03 No, WC doesn't work. If yours did was because the opponent didn't know how to fight.
@@Tricroman 😂 by your logic if any style fight each other and one loses that means the other guy didn’t know how to fight either. 🤣
@@masterninja03 WC doesn't work, I've practiced for several years. WT and WSL WC.
Awesome art thanks you
This is interesting. I've liked a lot of Wing chun principles for a while, especially the contact and control aspect of it, but I've always been put off by the stance. I come from a boxing background so standing square = death. 75% of my game is centred around balance, so that base stance just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how you get to the third phase of contact without it becoming boxing. And I'm saying this as a question.
Assuming train 3 times per week. How long does it take to be sufficient to self defense?
Training Wing Chun the eternity, it doesn't work in real fight.
Self defense against who? Someone who trains 4 times a week? Never...someone who doesn't train? Maybe but still I wouldn't pick wingchun
Error. Here is the link. I was 76++ when this clip was made
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Wing Chun is a way of life not a momentary way of defence, assuming as you say training 3 times a week, one person could progress much faster then another, most people train a couple times and think this is boring this is teaching me nothing, it’s not until you feel structure in your stance and feeling the difference between internal and external power will you start to understand. You don’t train for a couple months and become ip man, you allow it to become apart of who you are and through time and muscle memory will you feel the true power of wing Chun.
@@jacksonnewman5407 " not a momentary way of defence" Does this imply that you can train Wing Chun for free? You cannot train martial art by just watching UA-cam clips. Of course, people with athletic gift will progress more quickly. How long will it take for an average guy with no athletic gift, not cripple or disabled, to be efficient in self defense, training Wing Chun? An average guy training muaythai at legit gym should hurt a Wing Chun guy who has trained for a year.
BACK TO BASIC,GREAT WORK,THANKS!!!
Thank you for the video awesome advice
Excellent point
What a great lesson
I’m coming by there one day soon
Great video. Many thanks for this 😁👍🏻🙏
Does anyone have any tips for someone who wants to add some wing chun elements to their Muay Thai game? I’ve trained in wing chun for a total of maybe 2 hours at a seminar and I see it around a lot but I haven’t trained in it much, but I believe in the philosophy of learning as much as I can from others, so I want to incorporate more wing chun into my total striking game, but I’ve found it difficult with gloves on and in a Muay Thai setting where people tend to either be at a longer distance or clinching. Anyone have any tips?
see if there is an Inosanto Affiliate academy nearby. Most of your Thai training guys will play with WC trapping. There are lots of crossed principles.
*_That looks like @KevinLeeVlog dummying for Sifu Francis Fong!_*
*_~Great Stuff!_*
😎🍵🙏🏻📿🪷
🐅🔥⛩🏯🥋🧘🏻♂️☯️🏯⛩🔥🐉
3:27 Right there, his stance tells you everything you want to know about his fighting skills. This is no bushido.
Love❤ it
Damn that woman is extremely receptive to the instructor lol
Master Renton put it nicely once.... Wing Chun gives you a false sense of security of self defence and could be harmful if that is all you know... But it is still better than no experience at all.
Practicing Wing Chun is amazing, it truly is. And whacking bob with Wing Chun style kicks, combos, chains and chins still gives that confidence you'll need in any sticky situation.
I love Francis Fong work, but I really wish it wasn't against Kevin Lee. They have really good cohesion... they'd make a great movie.
Why i cannot learn 咏春: every time i make that stand there is a sound of O'ni Chan in my brain bro
BRUH
I want to learn weng Chun or kungfu karate I like that I want to learn master
Fighting against a grappler, Wing Chun is not practical alone. I watch Francis Fong's video. His MMA is Teaching MMA is mastery level. Which again comes to my point, nothing can beat MMA unless combined with grappling. I think he is combining both Wing Chun and grappling practically. 💔
You do realize what the MMA stands for in MMA right?
@BibleBreakout some people have nothing between the ears my friend lol
Whing chun çok güzel bir danstır
This is modified wing chun , not traditional, but still not a bad defense
And thank God for that, because traditional Wing Chun can’t handle pressure.
Yall really need to cut it out with that nonsense, Cheung's is the one that was modified. He never paid attention in class. Too busy hanging with triads and womanizing. That's why Yip Man yelled at Andrew Ma for showing Cheung Chum Kiu, and why Wong Shun Leung refused to show him Biu Zi.
Everybody have fun tonight,
Everybody Wing Chun tonight.
Its funny that people say that wing chun doesnt work in a fight. Of course there isnt one martial art that can beat them all. Train all of them. Get good at all of them and thats how you win in a fight.
Jack of all trades, master of none, silly dude...
@@AsraeaGKaletean you ever heard the full saying? The full saying is a jack of all trades is a master of none but is oftentimes better than a master of one. Silly guy
It doesn't work. Full stop.
I just come here to hear all the teenagers crap on Francis.
Really? What is the sound of one hand crapping?
@@VTSifuSteve The sound of one hand crapping: These guys who obviously don’t know who Francis Fong is talking about his martial arts abilities.
Meanwhile Mike has all but disavowed his Wing Chun saying it's absolete in modern fighting.... IJS... Did he change his mind or?
mike who?
Which mike?
@@jestfullgremblim8002 prison mike(via the office)
Masterclass
I used to play like that when I was a kid 😂😂😂 patty kay patty kay 😂😂😂
Problem is... Fights are never stationary. Advancing or retreating... Not Stationary
Don't think he said it was.
Fights most of the time are against random people that are being aggressive or someone who thinks they know but really they don’t. So working under the assumption that you’ll be fighting against a top notch fighter is just unwarranted. When you’re training, there should be a level of humbleness and self control
I am a Wing Chun guy. I actually teach it. I also am a Jiu Jitsu guy. Wing Chun works. The concepts work and the principals work. It takes time to progress from one (I hate to word it this way...) level to the next in regards to application or applying during movement and/or fighting. But it definitely works. I apply Wing Chun when I roll in Jiu Jitsu. It's amazing how empty Wing Chun works with gentle Jiu Jitsu and vice versa. Learning how to spar properly, and learning how to pressure test your system is how that is achieved. The art or system is not what stands in front of you in battle. It's the fighter. What is not shown in these "instructional" videos... are all of the movement drills that are in Wing Chun. We do not stand still.
@@calmwater2529 You Spell Jiu Jitsu the Brazilian way... in Jap its 'JuJitsu' --- I like Wing Chun. I think if you throw in some good footwork and positioning and use it with Chendokan Aikido or aggressive Aikido, or JuJitsu, it could be very effective.
just depends on the person u fight most likely they don't know how to fight!!! so u will have an edge on the attacker ok! just remember if they have a weapon or intheir emotions will get them hurt u will do what u must do to hurt them! 💯✌🏿😎🙏🏿💪🏿
Ip man style
This day an age wing chun has been defeated by everyone
Yeah I don't think so.
@predictivesolutionsltd9662 not one person has come to the table. So correct me if I'm wrong. U like to get beat up learn wc
@@DanielDavis730 what table? 1500 years of history proves you wrong
@predictivesolutionsltd9662 1500 years ago. There was no fighters like today. Not one has come to prove anything so year
@DanielDavis730 haha. Nope. They were better fighters.
dude cant even beat me in fighting. id train 2 months with sparring which the shifu never does then destroy him
Boxing 52blocks savate does works not against of knives and guns of course. Other martial arts showing off gets you punch in the face inside. No one fights southpaw to southpaw or two dead legs. fight is to kill not fight. But prison is not a life if you want you're asshole be candy.
Take what works disregard what doesn't.
The problem is is that people foolishly throw the baby out with the bathwater. And result in limiting themselves
yeaaaaa ... that cant be for beginners XD
bro is speaking english in Chinese
Imagine wasting your life learning this trash lmao
@soul.1Jacker Lol oh shit look it's the guy that is calling out McGregor. What art are you a grandmaster? Probably of couch sitting
The teacher here seems fine but the senior students at the back look like they are full of ego! I see it so much with long time peeps think they are good but in reality…
Not wing chun
What the hell? This is at least part social experiment no?
In what sense?
What do you mean 😂😂
God, I hate Kevin's clumsy footwork. He falls forwars like a small tree.
That's the whole point IMO. When he is pulled, he resists from the narrow WC stance and topples forward, making Fong Sifu look great ....or he could instead use the pull to step in and punch. Then his sifu would not look so good.
@@VTSifuSteveyeah
This only external wc total junk. Have a roll against a real internal wc practitioners. He a fraud
I wish wingchun actually worked so bad. Its so cool, but its complete BS.
I wish I had the chance to give you a personal demonstration. Only a little bit 🤏🏿
Go fight Francis Fong….video it….and post it for all of us to enjoy.
There’s a reason wing Chun is illegal in ufc because it was designed to viscously incapacitate a person with no more then a few blows, in the ring you have rules, on the street if someone approached me with aggression I wouldn’t think twice, bon sao and strike
Ahh, the voice of inexperience...
@@jacksonnewman5407 except it never works. Theres been many times wingchun masters have been given a chance to prove in the ring no holds barred and they always fail.
All fun and games until a trained person isn't willing to play your slap boxing game with you and knocks you out
Woah! We found the tough guy!
👎
Silly stupid BS! Dude would get taken out by an advanced beginner to intermediate boxer in a few seconds.
Sad but true. Wing chun never works no ones ever been able to make it work. Even professional fighters who have tried to make it work cant.
I wish it could so bad because it looks so cool but its all BS.
I wish I had the chance to give you a personal demonstration. Only a little bit 🤏🏿
Go fight Francis Fong….video it…. and post it for all of us to enjoy.
@@edsson2648 I'm sure that in a fight you don't use WC.
Aah, yes. The classic "MmA woUlD bEaT WiNg ChUn AnY DaY" guy who judges a martial art after watching training drills videos. All martial arts have training drills. Please stop making a fool of yourself.
What?
Pitty patty hand play. No use in a real fight. Just chk out fights in a hockey game. No way this crap works in an all out full contact fight w d attacker charging @ u throwing multiple wild punches. Chk out these real full contact sites: Offence wins. Once u go on defence like w WC, u lose.
Streetbeefs
Streetbeef GoPro
Scrapyard GoPro
Bareknuckle full contact fighting
Underground Street fighting
World Street fight championship
etc . . .
Go tell that to UFC champions Tony Ferguson, Jon Jones and Anderson Silva, who use Wing Chun techniques to win fights. You do know Francis Fong also teaches Boxing, Muay Thai and Brazilian Jui-Jitsu at his school right? Keep talking, your arrogance and stupidity is showing.
agree wc works if it is offense not defense, wing chun guy won on street beefs btw
Also you don’t see people jumping rope to win a fight either. It’s a training exercise too that you’re seeing. Wing Chun is meant for close range combat