Pulling Frames: Fixing Frame Side Sway with a Dozer Type Frame Machine

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2022
  • Demonstrates how to fix or pull unibody frames, frame sway or side sway using an L dozer type frame machine. Warning - Heat and/or straightening is not recommended by most OEMs. Tools, materials & Lakeside merch listed below:
    🔥 Frame Straightener - www.autobodytoolmart.com/prod... (straightener in video discontinued 😒)
    🔥 Pulley (Pull Down Attachment) - www.ebay.com/itm/302908830936...
    🔥 Torch - Bernzomatic TS8000KC
    🔥 Tram Gauge - Killer Tools Mini Telescoping Squaring Tram Gauge ART90-MINI
    🔥 Lakeside Autobody T-Shirt - brothersdesignsmi.com/shop-al...
    🔥 Frame Hook Cluster - RTJ Hook Cluster w/ Ring Frame Back Grips & Auto Body Repair Clamp 0900157 - EBAY
    🔥 Double Grab Hooks - www.ebay.com/itm/174488953291...
    🔥 Frame Chain - www.ebay.com/itm/112537540525
    🔥 Large Blue Hook - www.ebay.com/itm/224299016936... (Warning: using carb lifting plate as a floor anchor is not recommended)
    🔥 Channel: / @lakesideautobody
    🔥 Lakeside Merch: brothersdesignsmi.com/shop-al...
    🔥 Lakeside Discord - Your Projects: / discord
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  • @dj39st
    @dj39st Рік тому +7

    I love the frame machine videos
    This video was very detailed
    There are not enough frame pulling videos on UA-cam for students to learn from. Great content!!!!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Thanks for the support DC - glad you like them :)

    • @jessealvarez1647
      @jessealvarez1647 2 місяці тому

      How strong is that machine? I mean how many ound does of pressure does it pull? Does that make sense. I have a similar issue with my car. I know machines are expensive but I am just curious. Fascinating ​@LakesideAutobody

  • @omarkhalid4900
    @omarkhalid4900 Місяць тому

    Thank you brother for explaining everything while showing us on how you tight the chains. I work on a different frame machine but this is what I'm trying to buy soon for small jobs at home.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Місяць тому +1

      It's portable, cheap, and has done everything I've done will regular fame machines, Kansas Jack, EZ Liner, etc.

    • @omarkhalid4900
      @omarkhalid4900 Місяць тому

      @LakesideAutobody I really appreciate it. You're taking the time to respond. There is one with 4 clamps instead of 2. And it's like V shape, that's what I'm trying to buy. But your is awesome 👌

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto Рік тому +11

    Great work Jerry! I have seen many straightening jobs in real life over the 24 years I did subcontracting work with about 20 body shops. Always nice seeing it done right. I am not sure I would have the patients to do that as a living! Obviously a skill to it.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Uncle Mark - always a pleasure hearing from you - have a good weekend :)

    • @enriquerodriguez1804
      @enriquerodriguez1804 7 місяців тому

      You just can't get it to specs, straight with that rustic dozer , you need a Car-oliner bench and computer 🖥️ ,
      Done this trade over 45 years . 😂😂😂

  • @garyburgess3829
    @garyburgess3829 Рік тому +9

    Good job Jerry...good to know somebody can fix cars like this. Here in N.C. they would have totaled it and been done with it.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +7

      Thanks for the support Gary - fixing damage like this is a hot topic and I'm sure there is money to be made by scrapping a car in this condition but they can be repaired and driven for years to come. My stance on it is, sheet metal doesn't protect no matter how the companies design it. These front ends fold like tin foil in a serious accident. The best thing to do is slow down and drive as safe as possible. Have a great weekend my friend :)

  • @randydillman4698
    @randydillman4698 Рік тому +2

    Nice work Jerry. I enjoy the Friday night delivery times!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Glad you like the Friday night thing - I appreciate the support my friend :)

  • @wasdatamonkey
    @wasdatamonkey Рік тому +6

    Thanks for the video, it inspired me to buy a dozer rack for the side sway I have. You make it look easier than it is. I spent about 20 hours but finally got it straight. Most issues around pinch weld clamps slipping

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Gotta crank those suckers down 🥴. Hope the dozer rack works out for you my friend - glad to hear you purchased one - it's a great tool to have. Would like something more versatile but I don't have a lot of room or land to make room :)

  • @pstreetgarage7304
    @pstreetgarage7304 Рік тому +2

    Amazing to watch this process! I see the importance of solid rockers.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Yes - I'm pretty amazed at the strength of the pinch welds - I've never seen them fail or bend. I'd hate to try it with rusted Michigan rockers though :)

    • @pstreetgarage7304
      @pstreetgarage7304 Рік тому +1

      @@LakesideAutobody Exactly. Ours are often repaired with foam and Bondo 🥺

  • @TheOnlyRaceEngineer
    @TheOnlyRaceEngineer 8 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic detailed explanation. Helps a lot before going to a body shop to have a prior knowledge on how it should be done. Thanks. SUBSCRIBED

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the sub TORE - glad it helped - have a good weekend :)

  • @hickeyskustomresto
    @hickeyskustomresto Рік тому +2

    Your videos are always helpful and well done. Keep up the good work Jerry

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Thanks HKR - how have you been? Hope all is well. Have a good week and nice hearing from you again :)

  • @staggersspecial4288
    @staggersspecial4288 Рік тому +3

    Always great to see you do your stuff jerry. Look forward to the next part. From UK.

  • @curtismuma1931
    @curtismuma1931 Рік тому +1

    Wow nice work! That's a big job.
    Looks perfect

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the support Curtis - always good to hear your positive comments my friend :)

  • @davidbondy4359
    @davidbondy4359 Рік тому

    once again jerry you are the master, great job keep the videos coming and we thank you for all of your hard work.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      You're welcome David - glad you enjoy them. I appreciate the kind words my friend 🛠😊✌

  • @robertsilva4
    @robertsilva4 3 місяці тому

    Torching the evidence while quickly repairing damages, love it!! (Lic. tag) LOL!

  • @joanwilliams3221
    @joanwilliams3221 Рік тому +2

    Wow great job ! Good job looking forward the progress on this build…

  • @rcs0296
    @rcs0296 Рік тому +3

    Ive known old body men use the carb lift plates anywhere they can be bolted to to pull and straighten "unibodies"

  • @BruceLyeg
    @BruceLyeg Рік тому +1

    Excellent job and great video. I miss doing this stuff. I don't even remember the last time I used a frame machine

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Thanks Bruce - did you ever use a Kansas Jack pull post like this guy - www.brewcocollision.com/frame-straightening-power-post.asp Very handy frame puller if you have the pots in the floor :)

  • @ChipsAndSparksGarage
    @ChipsAndSparksGarage Рік тому +1

    Nice work, Jerry! Lots of skill involved here.👍

  • @bear_vibes5130
    @bear_vibes5130 Рік тому +2

    Very nice work.👍

  • @pilgrimhere652
    @pilgrimhere652 Місяць тому

    Amazing work with great measurements.

  • @johnfry9010
    @johnfry9010 Рік тому +2

    Jerry , You are the man , Great work !

  • @joewake746
    @joewake746 9 місяців тому +1

    I really like your trim gauge. More precise than a standard tape measure.

  • @firstgenerationgarage2803
    @firstgenerationgarage2803 Рік тому +4

    Great job Jerry not a easy job but you are a master keep the videos coming 👍

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Luis - always nice to hear from you - have a good weekend :)

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall Рік тому

    Amazing job Jerry. Thx

  • @bradstaffotd4715
    @bradstaffotd4715 Рік тому +1

    Another Great video

  • @JerryWillis-ub9lb
    @JerryWillis-ub9lb 2 місяці тому +1

    I got the exact same tram gauge. It's wonderful.

  • @haulandhurry
    @haulandhurry Рік тому +1

    Great work 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @paulerickson1906
    @paulerickson1906 Рік тому +1

    When a car gets in a crash. So many problems are forced into it. You just demonstrated to us a few of the major problems which can be fixed. It's a very complicated relationship between all the parts.

  • @danmaher7947
    @danmaher7947 Рік тому

    Nice job as always!

  • @husky1239
    @husky1239 Рік тому

    Great job Jerry love this video

  • @user-mw1rm6pp7o
    @user-mw1rm6pp7o 2 місяці тому

    Wow great job man

  • @robertaccorsini4663
    @robertaccorsini4663 4 місяці тому

    Wow, set up takes a lot of time and knowledge

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  4 місяці тому

      It's good times if you enjoy doing it and watching the damage come out. Thanks for watching Robert :)

  • @yim76
    @yim76 Рік тому +1

    Great job ,

  • @alialodhaimi97
    @alialodhaimi97 Рік тому +1

    Good job

  • @UndergroundPaintKing
    @UndergroundPaintKing Рік тому +1

    Great video Jerry you really kill it every time!…I need to invest in a frame machine

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      This type of frame machine is pretty affordable and something you definitely use. Have a good one my friend :)

    • @UndergroundPaintKing
      @UndergroundPaintKing Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody enjoy the rest of your week!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      @@UndergroundPaintKing 👍🔥🛠

  • @costaspapacostas2238
    @costaspapacostas2238 21 день тому

    Excellent congratulations.

  • @Ken_in_Wisconsin
    @Ken_in_Wisconsin Рік тому

    Good stuff. Thanks for the video.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Ken - have a great week from your neighbor in Michigan :)

  • @ebrahinsaberi9653
    @ebrahinsaberi9653 Рік тому +1

    Hi. I’m Ebrahim very happy to looking your job.

  • @williamgroel2880
    @williamgroel2880 Рік тому

    Great video thank you for sharing 👍😎

  • @zubeystinzen540
    @zubeystinzen540 Рік тому +1

    Some good old hammer time action Jerry, a friendly nudge in the right direction. Great job👍

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Thanks Zubey - glad you liked it - have a good weekend my friend 😊

  • @romantinajero4761
    @romantinajero4761 Рік тому +1

    Buen trabajo

  • @irshadjamaldeen2495
    @irshadjamaldeen2495 11 місяців тому

    Hi, thanks for a wonderful video working with a dozer. I tried it without a pulley block and the clamp which was clamped to the sill came off. Any advice on this please. Thank you

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  11 місяців тому

      The clamp on the rocker panel pinch weld should never slip off. If it does, it's because the nuts were not tightened down enough or the pinch weld clamp is not a quality clamp. That being said, you can run the chain around the dozer post (around the back) and pull it that way but it does help to have the pulley. Let me know if you have more ?s - Jerry

  • @adoidont
    @adoidont Рік тому +1

    Great vid. You left out one insignificant item from your shopping list, the small floor mount you use for tension on the left side? I did a brief search for something similar but have come up empty so far when looking for something rated at minimum 4000lb

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Sorry - here's the item (color changed) - www.ebay.com/itm/152890495158?hash=item2398fbd0b6:g:RVEAAOSwzatizPt2&amdata= Should have pull pots in the floor but it worked for that job - don't think there was a ton or force on it so it held just fine :)

  • @gm-lb9oe
    @gm-lb9oe Рік тому +2

    Awesome job Jerry. I was wondering if you could maybe do a series of vids on diffrent primers, diffrent paints, and diffrent clears. There is so many of them to keep track of. I think it would be a real great learning experience. And then maybe get into the diffrent reducers and catalysts

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Absolutely - thanks for that suggestion. I'll try to get to that soon - been real busy lately and the summer heat doesn't allow for long work days. Have a great week my friend :)

    • @gm-lb9oe
      @gm-lb9oe Рік тому +1

      @@LakesideAutobody Thank you Jerry !

  • @jasonappleyard3903
    @jasonappleyard3903 Рік тому

    ..What happened to the homemade door stretching jig video you made I now can't find it did you remove it ?... Another great video really interesting

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Is it this one? It's old and done on a VHS but has some good stuff in it :) ua-cam.com/video/0vDCpeZjp8g/v-deo.html

  • @petar443
    @petar443 Рік тому +1

    4:23 Jerry. why is the blue hook hold by a chain and a winch at the same time. are they two connected together at the floor anchor? whats the purpose? seems like the winch is doing all the holding and the chain always got slack. Peace

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      I actually need a chain binder to keep pressure on the chain to hold the hook in place. The winch was there just to put tension on the hook to hold it there - not a perfect set up. With a traditional frame machine - pull pots or drive on frame rack the pulling from the other side would keep that chain tight. Hope that makes a bit of sense - have a great weekend Petar :)

  • @billsmith9937
    @billsmith9937 Рік тому

    One arm bandit. What I kind of learned on. Are you going to replace those rails? At least on the left? Seems you didn't give too much heat. I like the beating of the rebar and the aluminum flying. Old school!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +2

      You're right about the heat - didn't get it too hot or as hot as a real torch. If a frame has a kink or is bent it should be replaced but I'm keeping it so it's staying just the way it is :) It's got just over 100k, all wheel drive, good gas mileage, clean in and out - it'll be a nice driver. Have a good weekend Bill 😊

    • @billsmith9937
      @billsmith9937 Рік тому +1

      @@LakesideAutobody YUP! Have a wonerful weekend, Sir.

  • @ranjita009
    @ranjita009 Рік тому +1

    Great work Jerry!! Lots of patience in you to get it exactly right. Where is your shop located? Thanks.
    Ash

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Upper Michigan - Saint Helen. Merry Christmas 🎄❄🎄

    • @ranjita009
      @ranjita009 Рік тому

      Merry Christmas to you as well Sir. I am in Charlotte NC. You know any one that you could recommend here to do frame and body work?
      Thanks,

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@ranjita009 I drove through Charlotte before but don't know of any one there. Beautiful drive though :)

  • @arsalanalqaysi5396
    @arsalanalqaysi5396 Рік тому

    this great video am in lincoln teach college auto collision repair but we need to learn manually and tools names plus work steps

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Feel free to tell me what you need to learn, want to learn, any questions that you are too afraid to ask - Jerry

    • @arsalanalqaysi5396
      @arsalanalqaysi5396 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody thanks sir I have long years ago do refinishing but am ba k to lincoln teach in texas to know material cut and welder and fix frame But the basis is the kit, its name and the stages of its work, especially the lower body of the car and how it is tied and towed or pull or push even windshield base for 4 lines If crookedness is on one of the sides, right, left, north, or south of a base of windshield so I wish we keep in touch too thanks Me Jerry we are glad to hear from you

  • @hashmatnaziri7018
    @hashmatnaziri7018 Рік тому

    Hi, will hitting with hammer harm the ECU of the car ? Because it happened on Kia grand carnival 3.8lit so I had to change ECU kit which includes key, key reader, immobilizer and ECU. Here in Australia it is called Grand carnival but there it is sedona . So my question: can that happen? Or there was another reason? Cheers

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      I always undo the negative cable on the battery first - which I should have talked about. That being said, anything can happen I guess but I've never had things break from using a big hammer other than maybe a radiator start leaking, cracking plastic trim parts, etc. Haven't damaged any sensors or computer parts though. I suppose if the computer was very close to where you are using the hammer, you may want to remove it :)

  • @jackwagon9411
    @jackwagon9411 Рік тому

    got any tips for straightening a 85 Camaro? its been hit right near the hinges by a Gard rail. looks like it shifted the a pillar and the wheel base is about 9/16 shorter on the damaged side

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Might be something in here that can give you an idea or two - ua-cam.com/video/MT2qarFo_nM/v-deo.html You can bolt something to the hinge plate and pull from that too. Maybe this would have something too - ua-cam.com/video/ENgdswDe1Fg/v-deo.html

    • @jackwagon9411
      @jackwagon9411 Рік тому +1

      @@LakesideAutobody thank you

  • @artikgoincusa7042
    @artikgoincusa7042 Рік тому

    Nice work, just wanted to know for myself, at the and when you measured the height, what about if it not same, and you need to make it level, maybe you can make video about that,thanks

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Check this video out at 5 minutes and 45 seconds in - ua-cam.com/video/bXBjBVl3Cu8/v-deo.html You can pull down or pull up :)

  • @mirkos76
    @mirkos76 Рік тому +1

    Video 👍

  • @brettwallace4909
    @brettwallace4909 Рік тому

    What’s your strategy for pulling on unibody frames as a posed to body over frame

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Aside from the different ways to anchor the vehicle - the principles are similar. I like pulling unibody frames actually - clamp them down with the pinch welds and start pulling. If a pull fails or something is not working then you just have to try something else. Even though sometimes you think you're not going to be able to fix it - with enough thinking and work, it always works out. You'll break some stuff along the way but that's par for the course as they say 😊

  • @robertsilva4
    @robertsilva4 3 місяці тому +1

    I wonder if using like a big Bosch electric jackhammer with a custom hammer bit would be effective in place of a sledgehammer? Shit, goanna give it a try!!!

  • @SomeGuyInSandy
    @SomeGuyInSandy Рік тому

    This is a case where a bigger hammer really helps!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      Yep - that was a 10 pounder - need a bigger hammer for sure :)

  • @jayinmi3706
    @jayinmi3706 9 місяців тому

    Are those "frame" rails high strength steel? For as much as you were hitting them with that sledge, I'd have expected them to deform.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  9 місяців тому

      They probably are but they bend really easy if they get hit by another 3000+ lb car or truck :)

  • @gm-lb9oe
    @gm-lb9oe Рік тому

    I take it that you are heating the frame where it buckled? Do or did you have to heat up the drivers side at all?? Or you don't have to?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      I "warmed up" the buckles or kinks - you're right. Probably could have pulled it w/o heat but I'm not real worried about using heat as I don't have a really hot torch. There were on kinks in the drivers side so that was OK. Glad you enjoyed the content GM - have a good week :)

  • @jayinmi3706
    @jayinmi3706 Рік тому

    My car that I'm getting ready to paint, has tight gaps at the bottom between the door and fender, and wide gaps at the top. I've seen a few Neons with the same issue, and suspect it's because they were jacked up in the wrong spot. (The pinch weld is also folded over in a few spots). I saw this video and was wondering if a setup like yours could fix something like that. More than likely, I'm just going to cut the bottom of the fender and open the gap up, and add some welding rod to the edge to close it up at the top....But I'd be curious how something like that would be fixed. It seems if you pulled back and up (from the front of the car) you'd have to pull the support box down at the same time.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      You can add shims to the front of the fender to close that gap. You have to raise the hood bumpers and latch to match the hood to the fenders. That's one way. Another way is to close the gap on top and just force that bottom gap open while tightening the bolts at the bottom - even bending the fender or forcing that gap open on the bottom works. Let me know what solves the problem for you :)

    • @jayinmi3706
      @jayinmi3706 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody I thought about that. But it's probably 1/8" or less (the door doesn't rub...but it's CLOSE) at the bottom and about 3/8 at the top. I feel like if I shim the front of the fender enough to get the bottom gap right, the fender won't line up with the headlights/front bumper quite right. A little at the back would equate to a LOT at the front. And I worried that if I tried to just force it at the bottom, it would twist the bottom of the fender. I think I'm going to drill some holes in a few spots and use clecos to locate it...then I have a reference to try different things, and I can go back to cutting a slit vertically at the bottom and adding material if neither of those options work.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@jayinmi3706 Let me know what you end up doing and how it works out - interesting 🔥🛠

    • @jayinmi3706
      @jayinmi3706 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody I took the fenders off and I tried just pushing tthe bottom forward and it seemed to work fine. Glad I tried it, would have been a lot of work other wise. There was a shim on the driver's side that might not need to be there. I'll let you know.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@jayinmi3706 Sounds like you're making progress - keep at it :)

  • @buckshoth585
    @buckshoth585 Рік тому +1

    👍

  • @richarddiaz8248
    @richarddiaz8248 Рік тому

    Jerry do a hood alignment I can never get mine lines correct or latch

  • @danielb-c9100
    @danielb-c9100 Рік тому

    Can you please do a video how to replace the inner rocker on 07 to 13 and 1999 to 07

  • @gm-lb9oe
    @gm-lb9oe Рік тому +1

    Is it really hard to fix a hood like that?? I take it the metal would have stretched so would you have to shrink it down somehow?? I definitely could watch you everyday. Better yet I would work for you for free. Your a true craftsman

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      I appreciate the support GM - that'd be nice if you lived nearby for sure. Thanks for watching my friend 🔥🛠😊

  • @jrv858
    @jrv858 Рік тому +1

    Takes patience to pull i have seen so call techs just pull till the ram goes nomore i was tough to pull and pressure relief

  • @FrancisHostling
    @FrancisHostling Рік тому

    hi, where are u locate.,. I need a training., jjij

  • @johnnyshd8250
    @johnnyshd8250 Рік тому +1

    If your hook ups are strong enough, ya, don't heat it. High carbon steel doesn't like it.Loosen up the cradle bolts before pulling. There is some slack from the factory in the cradle. Remove the hood latch so you can see better how the hood lines up without running back to release the hood that can have a bent catch anyways.

  • @briancorrigan5350
    @briancorrigan5350 Рік тому

    Heating knks in frame rails is not permitted nowadays as it is not longer "safe" to do so. My 30 y/o MR2 is ALL mild steel, so you can heat it and beat it, no problem, but OEMs, pressured to meet higher and higher fuel economy standards utilize stronger and lighter High Strength Steel (HSS) and Ultra HSS (UHSS) in order to lose weight and still maintain the strength of the chassis. These alloys of steel are cured and formed using heat, vacuum & pressure under very controlled conditions to reach their maximum strength. Bodyshops have software to look up every OEM car on the road which specifies which portions of the car are made from which type of steel alloy. When you work it, you notice iHSS & UHSS doesn't yield like mild steel, not as malleable or pliable, much more brittle in the way it fails - cracks, tears, sharp kinks. Heating it with a torch and pulling it straight takes a lot of the strength out of it. How much? I don't know; I'm neither a metallurgist nor an engineer. This is the main reason why modern cars that appear to have minor "fender bender" damage are written off as totalled. The proper fix when dealing with HSS or UHSS that is kinked is to use the damaged portion while pulling to get the adjacent panels as straight as possible and then cut out and replace the entire damaged member at a mfr approved location utilizing a mfr. approved method - like back at the firewall, if at all. Heating and straightening a modern chassis rail is no longer considered a proper repair. A kinked UHSS member should never be put back in service; OEMs vary on what can or can't be done with tweaked HSS. The concern is that member will never have the same strength as when it was first built. For the motoring public, this is progress - lighter, stronger, etc.., but for the shadetree and project car guys, the price of that progress is that it makes any damage beyond the front crash bar a bit of a deal breaker.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      You make some very good points - thanks for the input. All the OEMs have a guide to what type of metal/frames you can heat and straighten. It's so confusing though that most probably don't follow it. I'm sure a lot of straightening is going on in shops across the nation. I also think the OEMs are covering themselves a bit too. They should really make some type of rules that guide all body shops on this topic because some I'm sure are straightening and some are not.

  • @richarddiaz8248
    @richarddiaz8248 Рік тому

    Lakeside jerry is this a hobby for you our a full time job

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Used to be a full time job but now retired. I just focus on making YT videos now. Hey - did you happen to watch the last Nate Diaz MMA fight - for some reason I root for that guy 💪

    • @richarddiaz8248
      @richarddiaz8248 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody no I missed it but I saw Canelo fight
      Glad to see your enjoying your retirement I retire this December
      Take care Jerry

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@richarddiaz8248 That's great to hear Richard. Lots of time to be a kid again :)

  • @hermanwoods9738
    @hermanwoods9738 Рік тому

    Hi ! How are you doing , My Name is Mr.Herman Woods .I have a 1980 Dodge colt . 1.6. Unibody fame , On the Driver side . the cross member bar , that holds .the stabilizer bars,and torsion bar , crack the loose .But on the Driver side , it"s about 6 inchs .From the unibody wall . I went to Harbor Freight and bought the seven piece frame pulley . But i dont have anything , holding the frame .From the bottom. Do you think ! That i can still , pull the frame .Over 6 inch ! To put the frame peace , back on thr unibody .To be welded , back as a frame .that peace has , the 2 bolt holes pins .For the cross member , to be connected .To ! THANK YOU ! FOR YOUR HELP ! MR.H.WOODS

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      You can always anchor the car to a tree, a tractor or even another car to keep it from moving. I think it can be done - just keep thinking of a way to do it. I you try something and it doesn't work, keep asking ?s. I'm sure there's some way to get it done 🛠👍

  • @fabiuh991
    @fabiuh991 8 місяців тому

    How much this kind of work usually costs?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  8 місяців тому

      Frame time in a body shop is actually quite expensive. It varies from place to place but usually around 70-100/hr. Once you figure the time and materials, it can easily break into the thousands. That's way vehicles become a total loss to an insurance co very quickly.

  • @73superglide62
    @73superglide62 Рік тому

    Wood bigger set torches help

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +2

      I try not to get the metal too hot - just warm it up a bit. I probably could have pulled harder to speed up the job but I like to take it slow and try to not damage stuff - thanks for the support Super G :)

    • @73superglide62
      @73superglide62 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody rose bud on small set works allsome

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@73superglide62 I've always wanted one of those small sets - nice and portable :)

    • @73superglide62
      @73superglide62 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody I got cheep set off market place paid alot the much .should buy set .and give to you

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@73superglide62 I'll keep looking on FB marketplace - thanks for the tip my friend :)

  • @nicholasnagy2848
    @nicholasnagy2848 10 місяців тому

    How much does this service cost?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  10 місяців тому

      Frame time is expensive and depends on the body shop that you go to. Frame time is right around $75/hr. I restore or fix up my own clean title repairable vehicles or do rust repair on cars that I flip so I can't really give you an accurate picture of today's cost :)

  • @paulhewson4600
    @paulhewson4600 Рік тому +2

    That profession is a dying art and the industry is hurting for young talent that actually want to do this for a living

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      You're right - 'cause all parents want to brag about their kids going to prestigious universities. I would be proud to say my kid is going to be a line man for a power company - he'll probably make a lot more than the college kid - and be a lot tougher :)

  • @georgegirgis6435
    @georgegirgis6435 Рік тому

    hi there where are you located ?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      I'm in Saint Helen, Michigan 😊

    • @georgegirgis6435
      @georgegirgis6435 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody Far away from me but any idea how to fix a bent door hinge that pushed against frame panel ? can you make a video about it ?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@georgegirgis6435 Which direction did it get bent? Towards the interior of the car, front, back or away from the interior?

    • @georgegirgis6435
      @georgegirgis6435 Рік тому

      @@LakesideAutobody toward interior of the car.... it is passenger door front lower hinge so if you facing the passenger side door the hinge instead of being 90 degrees with frame (door panel ) now it is about 60 degrees on the angle towards the front of the vehicle

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@georgegirgis6435 Got it. Usually the fender would have to be removed and you might be able to get to the hinge. Sometimes you can grab the hinge in the right spot with a pulling clamp and frame machine but other times you have to mig weld a piece of metal on the hinge and pull from that. If it happened because the door was opened to far, you might be able to use the door itself to fix it by putting a block of wood in the hinge like a nut cracker and close the door on it. There's all kinds of ways to go at it but generally you have to pull it. You can use a come along too if you don't have any other way to pull it. A tree and a come along can work real well :)

  • @francisn442
    @francisn442 Рік тому

    Put a disclaimer before mechanics set our petrol cars on 🔥

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      I've work in quite a few shops and have never experienced a fire yet. I've even watched guys spray primer with a cigarette hanging out of their mouths. If you smell tons of gas fumes, it's probably not safe to use flames around it - seriously - just smell for gas fumes or anything else flammable before working.

  • @johnmirbach2338
    @johnmirbach2338 Рік тому +1

    🤓🖖👍👌✌️😎

  • @tarekelmrasy5600
    @tarekelmrasy5600 Рік тому

    Where are you from dear friend

  • @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31
    @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 Рік тому

    These high strength steel cars these days are springy you have to pull beyond center more than the low strength steel cars of the past and let it spring back to the zero alignment. The chief easy liner with two extra towers was my choice and the insurance companies would pay us repair labor for marks left by the clamps on the pinch welds clean up because the clamps leave marks on the pinch Welds.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Wow - that's cool of the ins cos to pay to repair those marks. Nothing beats an easy liner or frame racks that are similar :)

  • @alenmihelcic8267
    @alenmihelcic8267 Рік тому +1

    When you destroy arms, no help,no money no nothing.

  • @tanglewood777
    @tanglewood777 5 місяців тому

    thats lot chains nd pullys to pull sideways

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  5 місяців тому

      You're right, but if you don't have the $ for a rack or pull pots in the floor, this is a good, cheap alternative 👍💯😊

    • @tanglewood777
      @tanglewood777 5 місяців тому

      @@LakesideAutobody i have same puller but can only do front or rear as wondering how to use it to do sides but that set up look bit complcated like were did you get the attachmeant for pull downs see you got something fitted for that

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  5 місяців тому

      Not sure if you have this already but it shows a few different set ups using the L Dozer type frame machine - s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.autobodytoolmart.com/downloads/tech-sheets/BodyStraightener.pdf@@tanglewood777

  • @martybeaudry5747
    @martybeaudry5747 Рік тому +2

    smoke cigrits John

  • @stoveguy2133
    @stoveguy2133 Рік тому

    Frame rail is a lot more then 2” out. You said that in 1st min. Ur wrong

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      Good thing I was wrong 'cause it came out perfect 👍😁

  • @eddiebarrera147
    @eddiebarrera147 Рік тому +1

    I use my fat wife to straighten frames,tie one end to a tree,the other around wife's neck,if I want a strong pull I put hotdogs 10 ft from her,a slower pull I put hotdogs 5 ft from her.🤷🤷🤷

  • @mblake0420
    @mblake0420 Рік тому

    That car is junk, make cans of beans out of it. Why are bearing directly against the car?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      I'll be driving it for the next 15 years. Nearly brand new underneath and inside, 105K, all wheel drive, clean in & out. Price was 1/4 blue book :)

    • @mblake0420
      @mblake0420 Рік тому +1

      @@LakesideAutobody I get it if it was cheap beatee

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому

      @@mblake0420 👍🔥😊

  • @zanaga1901
    @zanaga1901 Рік тому +1

    I think within the next two weeks will be to paint my car after my parents get done with garage sale. Am waiting on God to give me the ordain place he wants me to live at. Place recently called me yesterday about a house but not just looking for any house want to be living what God wants me to live. A reality company called me this week I did look at apartments and apply to one though but none called me back. Then this week got a call from the reality company. They were trying to get me more in the process of buying a house but I know will know when the ordain house from God will come because I prayed on it already. But once I get the house I wanna quit my job to work for God's kingdom and do what he wants me to do and that will show God I am really relying on him because I will have left the job am doing now. I know my dad won't like me doing it this way but he is realizing now even though am in 43 that he is letting me make my own decisions. Which I have to live my own life and do what God wants me to do not my family, relatives, friends and parents. In the end God and Jesus the ones that did everything in my life and I have to go through Jesus to get heaven one day. Plus am gonna have to account for what I did for Jesus and God one day and I don't wanna live the rest of my life and had did nothing for God's kingdom. I know I have to make smart choices in life though which in the past honestly did make the wrong choices. This guy I watched on UA-cam that I believe tells the truth named Tireo but he has a real relationship with Jesus and he can hear God voice for himself watching his videos have given me a new outlook in life on what I have to do for my life and think.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Рік тому +1

      In life you need a job and a place to live. What if you just made the choice yourself on your job and your house THEN let God guide you. For example: If you fail utterly at work and it's just a complete disaster that could be God saying, "Time to move on guy." or if you move into a house and you find out that you are miserable there, that could be God saying, "Time to move my friend." Paul the Apostle was a tent maker for example (not sure if he liked that job) but he earned money by making tents, in order to support himself in his real ministry to Christ. That can be a model to live your life by and let God guide you along the way.

  • @sabahradhi2690
    @sabahradhi2690 3 дні тому

    Good job