Introduction to Auto Body Frame Straightening and Uni-body Repair
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- An introduction to frame straightening and unibody repair including illustrations of uni-body and full frame | body on frame automotive construction, special tools like pulling clamps, hooks and chains, and lastly, frame machine set up.
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I would just like to thank you for all your knowledge you share in your videos. I've loved auto body work my entire life, but just started in the field about 4 years ago. The rock star thing didn't work out. LoL, but your videos have helped me out more then you can imagine. So once again, thank you so very much for all the videos. They've help me out a ton in this trade that I love so much.
I'm so glad to hear that Eric - that makes my day. Body work is a nice relaxing occupation and something you can really be proud of - I'm glad I can help you out. Feel free to ask ?s any time. Have a good week my friend :)
@@LakesideAutobody thank you very much, sir.
loved the guitar intro and the camera work. Explanations are great! Looking forward to the repair
Thanks - I'll have the full repair uploaded next week. Glad you liked the video - have a great weekend.
I hope you show using this frame straightener in future videos.
You know back in the 90's I had a good friend that had a body shop. I was there quite a bit. He would go to Dallas and buy rebuildable cars and bring them into the shop and fix them. He did not have a frame machine, but he did have a guy that he would call that would go to a lot of different body shops in around a 100 mile radius of his home. He was called " Fred the Frame Man". He had a big long portable machine like yours but longer and heavier looking. He was probably in his 50's in age and his father had done the same work as him for years before him. Fred took over after his father retired. I was always amazed how he could take a few measurements with a tape measure and pull everything back in place with relative ease! I remember one ford pickup that was hit in the front corner and was knocked into a ditch. That poor truck was terribly twisted and the frame looked like a parallelogram! I said, " I gotta see this"! Fred got there looked at it and shook his head a couple of times. Drug out his machine and went to work. He would put a heavy piece of wood timber here or there and fire up his machine and pull. Dang, after about 45 minutes you could see all the body panels lining up. That is where years of experience told him just where and how much to pull.
I will always remember that. Keep up the good work. Tom
I'll upload the full repair using the frame machine next week - nice to hear from you :)
Keep up the good work. Thanks for your videos 👍
You're welcome - have a good week end.
Best video on being thorough . Good video.
I'm glad you appreciate the content - thanks for the support :)
Look forward to part 2 thank you Jerry
You're welcome - I'll have the full repair uploaded soon.
Love this resource. So helpful & informative. Thanks so much. Also love the eagle photo.
You're welcome. Funny story about that eagle shot. I told my wife, "any time you see those white and black ducks let me know - I'll get the camera - I want a shot of them for my channel" Every time she would alert me, I'd run for the camera, go outside and they would dive under the water and be gone. After about the 10th time (I was about to give up) I ran outside, missed the ducks again, but heard this loud screech - Woosh! Big eagle lands right in the pines above my head - crazy. Have a good weekend :)
@@LakesideAutobody 🇺🇲🦅👍
THANK YOU...for sharing. Nice machine.
You're welcome - have a nice weekend my friend.
Thanks for sharing this.
I have seen very little on the frame straighteners.
You're welcome
Enjoyed the video and looking forward to more! 🇺🇲🍺
Thanks - I uploaded the actual repair
hope you show us the start to finsh or close to the finish product very interesting and informative, and for you rookies out there don't try this at home until you get some experience in this feel and feel comfortable doin this task, its dangerous for you rookied, always safety first, awesome videos. I learned this trade in vocational school, and plan getting back to it, just been doin other businesses etc.. anyways great videos as always.
Thank you and I'm glad you enjoy the videos. I should have the video - start to finish - uploaded middle of next week. Have a great weekend :)
love the video. what brand of stands are those for the pinch weld clamps? is that an assembly that came with the puller? or did you fabricate?
I'm about to have my 2015 Dodge Challenger's frame straightened after an accident it was just in. Wanted to get an idea of what's about to happen. This video was solid. Thanks!
You're welcome - thanks for the support :)
What's about to happen? You're going to learn how much "frame repair" any quality local body shop with do on a POS "unibody" so-called "muscle car" that's 7 model years old,.uninsured, totalled by the last insurance company that wrote a policy on it, has ZERO "book value" as a totalled wreck "muscle car" with a "bent frame" that WHOLESALE isn't "worth" a year of "full coverage" insurance premiums AND is being "built" by a complete tool that will probably want to "finance" the "frame repair".
Thank you very much awesome work
No problem 👍 Have a great weekend :)
Great video thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching - you're welcome :)
Very cool! Thanks
You're welcome - have a good weekend.
Thanks for the intel, subbed
Thanks for the sub! Have a good weekend.
New subscriber! Love the videos.
Thanks for subbing - thanks for watching :)
Definitely will be watching!
Thanks, have a great week end UPK
Lakeside Autobody thanks Jerry...have a great weekend
Great video !
Thanks - have a great weekend.
Great videos, new subscriber, love the music
Thanks and thanks for the sub - glad you enjoyed the music - each video gets an original riff :)
Great video....... now I have another tool on my wish list LOL!
I have a lot on my list - should have been asking for this stuff for Christmas when I was little.
don't think that tool is cheap but if you plan on using it enough times it will pay for itself.
Pretty neat, thanks.
Glad you liked it :)
Never seen a frame machine that wasn't a huge metal table. That's cool.
Here's another very common one that is not a rack type, but you have to have pull pots or anchor pots in the floor - (spots to anchor chains to) www.brewcocollision.com/frame-straightening-power-post.asp They are nice because they are easy to use and very versatile (pull from any location).
Only one guy in my town that has a frame puller and after a front and collision I am in need of my driver's side frame to be pulled straight again. Was curious what was going to be done.
This is what I wanted for my Honda Civic with 279,000 miles in it.
Great video and easy to follow instruction. How do you do side pulls with this frame straightener?
Here's the instructions. s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.autobodytoolmart.com/downloads/tech-sheets/BodyStraightener.pdf Here's a video that a side pull was done but just on the body: ua-cam.com/video/ybwR7VcclhA/v-deo.html
Lakeside Autobody Thank you for sharing
I am looking online and the champs dozer frame stick and is $3600 with the overhead boom and the air pumps. The jackco one is like $2500 with a comparable setup. Was wondering if they are pretty comparable? I had a homemade “L”
That I used for years but was included in the sale of my shop (the equipment ended up being a deal breaker for the shop). So now have to replace it all…
I imagine they are very similar 👍🛠😊
Love your work bro are you close to the grand rapids area by chance
I'm up by Grayling, MI.
Do you believe body shops would allow you to ask to only have the frame pulled? I have all the parts and pieces needed to rebuild my car but I’m unsure if they’ll only stop at pulling the frame and patching it up to then let me take my car back so I can finish the job.
Each shop is different. You may have better luck at the smaller shops. If it's an easy pull I think you could find a shop to do it. Stop in and just ask if that's something they do. It can't hurt to ask. Jerry
Hey, How Would You Set Up To do A Side Pull With that Frame Straightener? 🤔🤔
Here's the instructions for the kit: s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.autobodytoolmart.com/downloads/tech-sheets/BodyStraightener.pdf Here's how I use it for side pulls - ua-cam.com/video/RSopz6XWncQ/v-deo.html - hope that helps :)
Where did you get your pulling clamps, very good video.
Thanks - www.autobodytoolmart.com/product/360-degree-clamp-narrow/auto-body-pulling-clamps-chains-hooks
try auto tool mart .
Hello, what Kinde of porto power you recomend?
I'm using a Harbor Freight and it works well. I'm sure a brand name would be nicer but that's always going to cost more. You can't beat Blackhawk if you have the $.
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LAKESIDE AUTOBODY I have a question: For example when a vehicle/car has been rear ended by a tractor trailer truck (hitting one side of the rear bumper) cracking the bumper / ripping off one of the tail lights aka brake lights and smashing the rear quarter panel...... QUESTION ONE (1) What are other possible issues that are likely to have occurred to the vehicle that the naked eye and non mechanics/non body shop specialists would not be aware of* *could yah list the guestimate price for each repair including the obvious repair/replacement of the bumper, tail light and rear quarter panel*
Well.... There's a lot actually.
1) suspension damage - I did a rear end job on an '87 Nova and it broke the welds that held the control arm to the unibody.
2) Wiring could be damaged and you'd have to replace that
3) Obviously the unibody parts will be wrinkled and damaged
4) Muffler system pushed up into the car
5) Deck lid hinges and support might be messed up
Those are the ones off the top of my head but it would be hard for me to give an estimate for the prices of each because you really to look up all the time and costs of each. I can't really even estimate as I never wrote the estimates - just did the work. I know it would be over a few thousand dollars though.
Question....whats the name of ur frame puller.. and where u order it...iam interested getting one
This one is no longer made. Try - Jackco 852B 10ton Body Straightener. Here's instruction for all types of dozer pullers - s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.autobodytoolmart.com/downloads/tech-sheets/BodyStraightener.pdf
How would you tie down a pickup truck with this setup?
It's actually even easier because you don't have to use the clamps, bar, etc. Just chains, hooks and anything your imagination can come up with. Obviously this is a bottom feeder frame machine but with a bit of creativity it can work for almost any pull. Here's the instructions for basic hookups body on frame and/or uni body - s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.autobodytoolmart.com/downloads/tech-sheets/BodyStraightener.pdf
How would you attach it to a body on frame vehicle like the toyota 4runner to pull the front end?
Here's the instructions to that frame straightener - it shows how to do mostly body on frame: s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.autobodytoolmart.com/downloads/tech-sheets/BodyStraightener.pdf
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks
You dont have frame chassis table to clamp the car down to?
No - you're actually supposed to use this dozer type puller with nothing - just by itself. Check out how here - s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.autobodytoolmart.com/downloads/tech-sheets/BodyStraightener.pdf
Please How Can I Secure that Pinch Weld Setup You have at 03:22? Is It Sold Anywhere? It Doesn't Seem to come with any of the Frame Straighteners that I've Seen Online, even the One from the Link to the Website you provided Doesn't come with it...
It comes with this frame puller - I think you can buy it separately though to from the same web site - www.autobodytoolmart.com/product/champ-10-ton-body-straightener-kits/auto-body-frame-straightening-equipment?gclid=
@@LakesideAutobody Well I haven't seen it anywhere on their website. But, do you know if they sell the swivel types/model Frame Straightener? I Know Jacko Sells them.
@@nedunonnyp704 You're right they don't sell it separately - I can't find much of anything in the way of "rocker pinch weld clamps" on the internet. I'll keep looking though if I find ones like I have or the swivel type, I'll reply back again - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody I called and spoke to them today and they said none of their frame racks come with that pinch-weld clamp. Then I thought you might've had the Frame rack for some years and the design/parts it came with might've changed over the years to explain why the Pinch-Weld clamps looked different. But the guy I spoke with said He's been with the Company for 9Years and their have been modifications but that pinch-weld clamps in the picture have remained the same. I even sent them a screenshot of the one in your vid. But they said they don't and have never carried that clamp style..
@@nedunonnyp704 The pinch weld clamps that you see in the video came with the puller. If you order this: www.autobodytoolmart.com/product/champ-10-ton-body-straightener-kits/auto-body-frame-straightening-equipment - you will get pinch weld clamps like mine. You have to because that's what the company says. It includes:
Includes:
(1) puller
Hydraulics
(2) 6 ft. chains with grab hooks
(2) sheet metal clamps with pull rings
(1) underbody beam with pinchweld clamps and floor stands
Overhead boom (4084 Models Only)
I think the guy on the phone wasn't sure what you were talking about. Is there another clamp I was using in the video that you might be talking about? We'll figure this out my friend :) Jerry
Jerry i have always been subscribed to you. But today i was unsubscribed somehow. Excellent video
Thanks Geoffrey - I appreciate you subscribing - have a good weekend :)
Great video. What’s the name of this portable machine?
www.autobodytoolmart.com/product/champ-10-ton-body-straightener-kits/auto-body-frame-straightening-equipment?gclid=Cj0KCQjwzZj2BRDVARIsABs3l9JW8GKD97qoTb3P9s1s3toEbu6wTcdTbtJ9sxDaWKkXvBi0OIYawrkaAt-hEALw_wcB
This video puts it to work - ua-cam.com/video/xbzGX4hW9qo/v-deo.html - Have a great weekend - Jerry
Awesome
What if you have no sill clamps?
You can still use it - just have to get creative. You can even use a tree and a winch or come along :)
Wow. It looks like you do TONS of "frame work" since that "frame straightener" looks like it left the "tool truck" years after that "could be a good car" Rustang had it's last "drag race" behind a tow truck.
ua-cam.com/video/MT2qarFo_nM/v-deo.html or ua-cam.com/video/7MwceT55Zjs/v-deo.html or ua-cam.com/play/PLOP9eoG14-I9INn6UXNhOwUiXBHoSivQ4.html Not sure exactly what you were asking so I gave you a bunch of them. Happy Holidays to you and your family 🎄❄🎄🏈😊
Have you ever considered teaching at your local tech? You remind me of one of my instructors from back in the day
No I haven't but that's nice that you think I could teach vocational auto body. Have a great weekend :)
Lakeside Autobody it’s a struggle for some up and comers in this industry, a lot of good technicians can do amazing work but can’t explain how or why to someone with basic vocational school experience. I had one instructor who was really good with explaining like you and it helped me get a head start as a rookie employee at a dealership. Honestly after I put in my years I hope to transition to teaching the trade.
@@not-socustoms5615 ,
Pepe Escobedo what’s up
Crown Victorias are full frame.
About how much does a framework like this cost?
In the thousands for sure. This car would not have been repaired as it would have been a total loss. I figured it would be good to see and the car was only $800 - clean, everything worked, loaded, plus the Mach 460 Ford factory audio system - I think the loudest factory stereo ever made - and I've heard a lot of them.
Ok. Let's get crack'en...
I'll git 'er done by next week and upload the full repair :)
How Much Is The Price Of This Type Of Jobs?
This car would have been totaled. Even if it was newer it probably would have been a total loss. Really the trunk floor, quarter, rear panel, and deck lid should have been replaced - along with bumper assembly, tail lights etc. - that would add up fast along with labor - well into the thousands for cost.
@@LakesideAutobody Wao! I Ask Because My Car Got Hit Badly Recently On The Left Corner Rear,I Known 100% Sure Is Considered Total, Even Tho It Can Be Fixed But I Was Wondering What’s The Estimated Priced Of That Labor
OK got it. unfortunately damage like this is $. Labor prices for frame repair is more than just regular body work/painting. Say regular shop time is 90/hour then frame time can be nearly double that 150/hr or more. There would be some good time on that job too. I didn't write the estimates but I know that job would easily break 2000 dollars. Is it possible to fix it enough to just drive it? Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody Wao,Yeah Actually It Can Be Fixed To Drive,Suspensión Are Intact,I Wish I Can Post Picture Here So You Can See,And Give Me A Opinión
Not trying to be overly critical, But. That Champ setup is based upon 75 year old "Dozer technology" and was never designed to do unibody, until someone added the cross bar with the clamps. At best the Champ system is a sheet metal puller. There are much better systems out there.
Absolutely - but not too much room in my garage :)
Lets see the rear sub-frame in that "could be a good car".
And when does the "structural repair" 4-minute "educational" video come out since "frame straightening" is not "structural repair".
ua-cam.com/video/xbzGX4hW9qo/v-deo.html
Yeah a v6 rear clip