Ramon has more grace in one hand that I have my entire body!! And Alex Cohen has developed his polyrhythmic coordination further than I thought possible! Hugely proud of both these guys :)
Los hermanos brasileros son los reyes de las percusiones! Nadie, absolutamente nadie los supera. Siempre admiré a sus músicos. Saludos desde Argentina 🫂
I was lucky enough to watch Ramon playing Jazz on a small pub nearby my city... we have amazing drummers in Brazil once we have a lot of different rhythms in a single place....
I’m incredibly proud to see these two on stage together. It was a pleasure working with Alex on notating and editing his new book with Ramon. Both of these two are ahead of their time with their concepts and techniques. Ramon’s grace and control in one hand destroy what I can do in my entire body, and Alex’s multi-limb independence and slide doubles on the feet are beyond exceptional. Great work, you guys!
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one making a face like you at 13:00 -- watching these guys makes me feel like I only understood 10% of how drums are supposed to be played.
Two of my biggest inspirations in technique. Alex has some of the most insane coordination of any human being I've ever seen. I'm really hoping Ramon's popularization of push-pull revolutionizes the drumming community as a whole. Imagine if push-pull was taught in the formative years of the greats we know today!!!
Alex is one of the most underated modern drummers around, disgusting good technique, skill, speed and creativity. Truely someone who deserves to be at the front teaching 👏
Que show o Ramon na Drumeo! Parabéns e sucesso em sua vida! Abriram a porteira dos bateristas brasileiros. Há muitos bateristas fantásticos no Brasil assim como o Montagner: Kiko Freitas, Lilian Carmona, Edu Ribeiro, Celso Almeida, Cuca Teixeira, Alex Buck, Erivelton Silva, Márcio Bahia, Nenê, Rafael Barata, Mauricio Zottarelli, Tutty Moreno, Rogério Pitomba... São só alguns nomes aqui no Brasil. Parabéns Drumeo!
Cara, eu acompanho o Ramon a muitos anos, tenho um cajon signature dele, conheço as técnicas do pushpull a muitos anos, e é um orgulho enorme ver o destaque que ele ganhou, e ainda mostrando a riqueza do samba, bossa nova para outros estilos brasileiros... Parabéns Ramon...
Hey Admin! Drumeo! Please consider bringing Kiko Freitas to this chanel. He is one the best drummers in Brazil, very important to us and the drumming community. He had classes with Dave Weckl and Dave himself recently talked about him. Absolute monster in polyrithm
This Ramon Montagner, ist just amazing. For me he is topping all the drummers known from the past. Probably now one of the best and most creative drummer in world.
Go Alex! Between the limb independence and polyrhythm concepts, plus Ramon's techniques .. I think it's back to the practice room for me for a good few decades 😅
Alex cohen. His freestyling is amazing in this video. I haven't seen him on any other videos and I don't really know either of these 2 gentelmen but they are blowing me away.
Ramone’s (incredible) technique reminds me a lot of pick slanting on guitar when slight relaxed thumb and wrist movement and rotation combined will help you get through strings in full alternate picking, increasing your speed significantly
I don't understand this tendency in the drumming community to constantly slag other drummers off in the comments, especially when they are women (not applicable in this particular case). It's really pathetic and immature. We should all be supporting each other. 🥁 🪘 🛢 🥁
Yep. I agree. Maybe some of the folks - trools?! - on comment section don't understand or just don't care about community. They're living in their own world of fantasy or something like that. What a shame though!
Exactly the same in the guitar community too. I maintain that if you need ‘Gentlemen’s bits’ to play your instrument well, then you’re doing it wrong, horribly wrong.
Ramon Montagner é uma referência pra mim e um orgulho para nós músicos Brasileiro. Obrigado por levar e representar a nossa classe no maior canal de bateria do mundo!
Man, a high speed camera would be a nice tool to add to the studio if you could pull the video off it fast enough for the live shows. This is a fantastic collection of ideas and I'd love to see the high speed on some of this to understand it better
Was lucky enough to watch Alex Cohen perform with Malignancy this year and talk to him afterwards. He absolutely blew me away with the controlled chaos that is his drumming and was such a nice person to talk to. He actually invited me to come backstage with him and grab a beer. Such an awesome drummer and a super friendly guy as well!
Stunned. I'm not even a drummer and the universe of textures and sounds by mr Montagner has me reeling. Extremely inspiring and I haven't even gotten to mr Cohen yet!
Ramon's explanation of the push/pull and side to side actually helps me understand how Estepario Siberano's technique, because he uses both of these styles.
Well . . . the old debate: technique for the sake of music on the one hand, and technique for its own sake on the other. I do admire the limb independence Cohen has achieved but a lot of his playing sounds like calisthenics. Ramon plays music while expanding the technical possibilities of the instrument. A master.
TBF most of the stuff doesn't *directly* translate, but the indirect translation is what's important. Playing crazy stuff like patterns in 11 on the left side and 13 on the right or something isn't something you'll hear on the radio, but the contribution to limb independence something THAT mentally taxing provides is insane. He plays some killer metal drums in actual musical context.
@@aylexmusic I do not disagree, and think Cohen’s presentation would’ve benefited from a more musically contextualizad performance (a metal/progressive track as you mention). However, we could also be questioning Montagner’s push-pull technique applicability if he had not developed it to the point he has. Maturity is a big factor here and I’m not sure if it’s only bc Montagner has worked longer on his ideas or because he more consciously and explicitly links them to a rhythmic tradition. That aside, I see now a bunch of talented drummers working on the direction set by people like Harrison, Minnemann, and Hessler. Cohen is among them, so I do not see a contribution as substantial from him as the one I see from Montagner whose technical contribution is acknowledged even by the most accomplished Brazilian drummers. I can see his pull-push technique becoming a “requirement” for the next generation of drummers, regardless of genre.
Been waiting for this appearance. Drumeo and Ramon really make this push and pull approach accessible. Immagine knowing that this is possible as a beginner, and being able to practice this from the start! I think it will change drumming alot.
Tá na hora de o pessoal da Drumeo fazer uma turnê pelas escolas de samba no RJ e em SP, de preferência trazendo mestres de banda de fanfarra pra fazer uma comparação entre esses estilos.
Oh my god the awesome creative ideas u could come up with if all ur limbs could do fast 16ths n buzz rolls individually. I wanna learn this so bad, but my god the technique practice is painful when ur not even close 😂. Baby steps i guess😅. So inspiring!
I love the look on Brandon's face around 11m20s in. I think I shared the very same sense of awwwww in :D Thank you again for all the great content, Drumeo! Nothing else comes even close.
Finally ramon should appeared in drumeo like 10 years ago, he is on a whole another level, literally, and deserves to be among the very best.
Ramon has more grace in one hand that I have my entire body!! And Alex Cohen has developed his polyrhythmic coordination further than I thought possible! Hugely proud of both these guys :)
LESSONS.
Just joking! good to see you here!
@@JigsHidalgoMusic hahahah nice try!! 🤣
There we go
thank you Dimitri! 🥁🥢😘🙏
@@RamonMontagnerIncrível, Ramon. Sua técnica e musicalidade são "top notch" como os norte-americanos dizem. Uma inspiração!
Los hermanos brasileros son los reyes de las percusiones! Nadie, absolutamente nadie los supera. Siempre admiré a sus músicos. Saludos desde Argentina 🫂
Ramon's technique is crazy!
No wonder Eloy Casagrande is a partner on his school, these dudes are drum monsters!
thanks bto! Eloy is a monster! 🥁🥢😘🙏
Alot of Thomas lang influenced as well as mangini
Wait, _another_ Brazilian highly skilled drummer!
Yes, we have a ton of monsters :D
@@PeX218 Nem fala! Aquiles Priester, Bruno Valverde, Henrique Pucci... Isso só no metal! No piseiro tem uns caras brabos também como o Paraíba...
I was lucky enough to watch Ramon playing Jazz on a small pub nearby my city... we have amazing drummers in Brazil once we have a lot of different rhythms in a single place....
I’m incredibly proud to see these two on stage together. It was a pleasure working with Alex on notating and editing his new book with Ramon. Both of these two are ahead of their time with their concepts and techniques. Ramon’s grace and control in one hand destroy what I can do in my entire body, and Alex’s multi-limb independence and slide doubles on the feet are beyond exceptional. Great work, you guys!
👊🤘🙌🙏
You guys are crazy! Thanks for the great lesson, Alex and Ramon!
thanks Brsndon! An honor to be there!
You’re the best Brandon!
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one making a face like you at 13:00 -- watching these guys makes me feel like I only understood 10% of how drums are supposed to be played.
Two of my biggest inspirations in technique. Alex has some of the most insane coordination of any human being I've ever seen. I'm really hoping Ramon's popularization of push-pull revolutionizes the drumming community as a whole. Imagine if push-pull was taught in the formative years of the greats we know today!!!
Alex is one of the most underated modern drummers around, disgusting good technique, skill, speed and creativity. Truely someone who deserves to be at the front teaching 👏
These guys need their own episode each, absolutely incredible and both very different styles
Que show o Ramon na Drumeo! Parabéns e sucesso em sua vida! Abriram a porteira dos bateristas brasileiros. Há muitos bateristas fantásticos no Brasil assim como o Montagner: Kiko Freitas, Lilian Carmona, Edu Ribeiro, Celso Almeida, Cuca Teixeira, Alex Buck, Erivelton Silva, Márcio Bahia, Nenê, Rafael Barata, Mauricio Zottarelli, Tutty Moreno, Rogério Pitomba... São só alguns nomes aqui no Brasil. Parabéns Drumeo!
Aquiles y Eloy ... Máquinas
Tem que chamar o João Barone. Certeza que seria uma aula e tanto...
Gostaria de ver o Bruno Valverde e o Betto Cardoso!
@@NegoClauJoão Barone, com todo o respeito, está um patamar abaixo dos citados
@@PeX218 Eu podia concordar com vc, mas nós dois estaríamos errados...
Alex and Ramon put together an incredibly creative book that is sure to keep drummer busy in the practice year to come .
This is mind blowing! Both of these guys are insanely talented.
Absolutely amazing, astonishing, creative techniques to see, hear and practice.
Cara, eu acompanho o Ramon a muitos anos, tenho um cajon signature dele, conheço as técnicas do pushpull a muitos anos, e é um orgulho enorme ver o destaque que ele ganhou, e ainda mostrando a riqueza do samba, bossa nova para outros estilos brasileiros... Parabéns Ramon...
Hey Admin! Drumeo! Please consider bringing Kiko Freitas to this chanel. He is one the best drummers in Brazil, very important to us and the drumming community. He had classes with Dave Weckl and Dave himself recently talked about him. Absolute monster in polyrithm
This Ramon Montagner, ist just amazing. For me he is topping all the drummers known from the past. Probably now one of the best and most creative drummer in world.
Go Alex! Between the limb independence and polyrhythm concepts, plus Ramon's techniques .. I think it's back to the practice room for me for a good few decades 😅
Alex cohen. His freestyling is amazing in this video. I haven't seen him on any other videos and I don't really know either of these 2 gentelmen but they are blowing me away.
Ramone’s (incredible) technique reminds me a lot of pick slanting on guitar when slight relaxed thumb and wrist movement and rotation combined will help you get through strings in full alternate picking, increasing your speed significantly
Absolutely -- the techniques are *very* similar ! Ramon wasn't talking about forearm rotation, but he clearly does it.
Nós bateristas Brasileiros estamos bem representados , parabéns Ramon, levando o ritmo do Brasil para o mundo.
❤
Realmente é um grande orgulho! Que trabalho fantástico!
Ramon montagner is amazing I could never do what he does with one hand.
I don't understand this tendency in the drumming community to constantly slag other drummers off in the comments, especially when they are women (not applicable in this particular case). It's really pathetic and immature. We should all be supporting each other. 🥁 🪘 🛢 🥁
Yep. I agree. Maybe some of the folks - trools?! - on comment section don't understand or just don't care about community. They're living in their own world of fantasy or something like that. What a shame though!
As a female drummer, thank for saying that!
Agreed. Great to see the sense of community here.
Exactly the same in the guitar community too. I maintain that if you need ‘Gentlemen’s bits’ to play your instrument well, then you’re doing it wrong, horribly wrong.
Make me a sandwich
Both Ramon and Alex are absolute animals on the kit
Ramon Montagner, finally! Thank you Drumeo!
Amazing episode - I’ve been a major fan of Alex for many years and Ramon, just recently. Great work guys!!
Ramon Montagner é uma referência pra mim e um orgulho para nós músicos Brasileiro. Obrigado por levar e representar a nossa classe no maior canal de bateria do mundo!
Man, a high speed camera would be a nice tool to add to the studio if you could pull the video off it fast enough for the live shows. This is a fantastic collection of ideas and I'd love to see the high speed on some of this to understand it better
Yay! Congrats to Alex and Ramon, this is awesome!
This absoulety amazing, wow. Mind is blown. I love this type of sound and playing
Was lucky enough to watch Alex Cohen perform with Malignancy this year and talk to him afterwards. He absolutely blew me away with the controlled chaos that is his drumming and was such a nice person to talk to. He actually invited me to come backstage with him and grab a beer. Such an awesome drummer and a super friendly guy as well!
Ramon is a living legend
Stunned. I'm not even a drummer and the universe of textures and sounds by mr Montagner has me reeling. Extremely inspiring and I haven't even gotten to mr Cohen yet!
Já pensou, as mãos do Ramon e os pés do Alex em uma só pessoa? Dois bateras do momento!!!!
He is called Thomas Lang
Can y’all do a “Genius of Carl Palmer” video? He never gets the recognition he deserves in great drummer conversations.
Alex, I'm so proud of you as a friend! Fly high, king!
❤
Ramon is such a great master, always killing it! Also, would be great to watch Bruno Valverde here. ♥
FINALLY!!!! @Estepario watch and ducking learn!
Incredible power and control from both. Loved this
Nobody's play samba and bossa nova so fast than Ramon in the world.
Ramon's explanation of the push/pull and side to side actually helps me understand how Estepario Siberano's technique, because he uses both of these styles.
I love Ramon he's a Brazilian like me but I'm just learning though!
man ramons dynamics and sound is just 🤌🤌👌👌 beautiful is an understatement
Some mindblowing hand technique right here!
Beautiful to watch...
As soon as he played than on hand samba on the hats with clave accented i was hooked! Got to master that technique 🤯🤩
That was a sick solo by Alex, especially the hands over the flammed kicks section
I take it back, most of it was unreal and super fun to listen to despite how complex it must actually be on paper
@@SammyMakepeacethank you!
I love this video! I used to play the cahone years ago
13:17 i start shaking my body 😂😂😂
Well . . . the old debate: technique for the sake of music on the one hand, and technique for its own sake on the other. I do admire the limb independence Cohen has achieved but a lot of his playing sounds like calisthenics. Ramon plays music while expanding the technical possibilities of the instrument. A master.
TBF most of the stuff doesn't *directly* translate, but the indirect translation is what's important. Playing crazy stuff like patterns in 11 on the left side and 13 on the right or something isn't something you'll hear on the radio, but the contribution to limb independence something THAT mentally taxing provides is insane. He plays some killer metal drums in actual musical context.
@@aylexmusic I do not disagree, and think Cohen’s presentation would’ve benefited from a more musically contextualizad performance (a metal/progressive track as you mention). However, we could also be questioning Montagner’s push-pull technique applicability if he had not developed it to the point he has. Maturity is a big factor here and I’m not sure if it’s only bc Montagner has worked longer on his ideas or because he more consciously and explicitly links them to a rhythmic tradition. That aside, I see now a bunch of talented drummers working on the direction set by people like Harrison, Minnemann, and Hessler. Cohen is among them, so I do not see a contribution as substantial from him as the one I see from Montagner whose technical contribution is acknowledged even by the most accomplished Brazilian drummers. I can see his pull-push technique becoming a “requirement” for the next generation of drummers, regardless of genre.
Никогда, ничего подобного не видел за всю свою барабанную жизнь!
Been waiting for this appearance. Drumeo and Ramon really make this push and pull approach accessible. Immagine knowing that this is possible as a beginner, and being able to practice this from the start! I think it will change drumming alot.
Wow! Outstanding, lovely as always Ramon, congrats my brother!
This was fantastic wow thankyou so much
This Drumeo episode is absolutely amazing!!!!
My favorite Drumeo episode EVER!
Ramon!!!! Ficou muito feliz ❤
Tá na hora de o pessoal da Drumeo fazer uma turnê pelas escolas de samba no RJ e em SP, de preferência trazendo mestres de banda de fanfarra pra fazer uma comparação entre esses estilos.
Ramon Drum-God Montagner finally on Drumeo - yeeeeeeeah ❤
Insane!!
Oh my god the awesome creative ideas u could come up with if all ur limbs could do fast 16ths n buzz rolls individually. I wanna learn this so bad, but my god the technique practice is painful when ur not even close 😂. Baby steps i guess😅. So inspiring!
Always appreciative of any knowledge shared in the community thank you 🤝🏾🥁🙏🏾🤍
Ramon 😮😮😮😮🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Alex rules, great to see this finally out
I love the look on Brandon's face around 11m20s in. I think I shared the very same sense of awwwww in :D
Thank you again for all the great content, Drumeo! Nothing else comes even close.
Questi Fenomeni 👏sono nati... GIÀ Drummer!!! 👋
So many grips!
Mind bending technique! Just amazing!
I love this!!! Thanks very much!!
Insane, amazing that intro. What am i doing on my set? Learn. Nice to see such great possibilities and challenges
10:13 holy moly
Love Drumeo Lives!
Parabéns Ramon!!!
All I gotta say ... holy fucking shit!
Two genius beats 💙💙
Incredible.
Just WOW.
This is next level.
this is super sayan level of drumming
and THAT's the Danny Carey signature ride cymbal
Nicely done! Wow!
What a chancer ,he's making it up as he goes along 👏 😮😢😂❤
Would really love to see Rory O’Connor from Tycho on this channel.
My brain just exploded 🤯
This is insane 🤯
Fuggin amazing 🤯
This was amazing! Omg these guys are great! But please! Some WD40 on those pedals geez… so much squeaking 😅
Holy shmokes! That was insane! How is that even possible. Back to 60 bpm for me.😂
epic duo!
Sounds like home. But with a liiiittle more suit and tie 🧐
Great stuff
13:15 hosts face represents us mere mortals
authism at its best
I’ll second that
Nuts!!! 🤯🤯🤯
I would imagine a drummer playing with two sticks in each hand. I didn't know if it could actually be done. 14:07
Guys, when will we able to see Maison Guidry on Drumeo? He is the absolute King of drums, in my opinion!
He has monster chops but I don't think he has this level of coordination. I'm sure he's capable.
This shit is revolutionary
Awesome
Soo ridiculous!!🤯🤯🤯
Bello.💪💪💪💪💪💪