Seiji Ara is a very skilled driver. He operates the steering smoothly and exploits the NSX Type R at its full potential, that's mostly why he is that fast with a sub-300bhp car.
@@lanesplitter8723 uh, no. because the NSX-R weighs 120 - 300 kg less than the Porsches, and that counts a hell of a lot on all those high speed sweepers and heavy braking zones.
I have learned one thing from all these races. GT-R is the most efficient car of any other on track. It might not be as speedy but man it is a corner monster
why is he shortshifting the GT3?! He has at least another 1000 rpm until the max hp rpm. dfk?! 997.1 GT3: Nurburgring - 7:42:00 NSX Type R: Nurburgring - 7:56:73
and you really thinka 1k rpm will change something on a small track like that? 1k rmp wont save 3 sec difference on a laptime. youve clearly never drove a car on real track.
@@SubaruProduction It´s a N/A engine, it develops all its power at high rpm, the more high you go, the more power you get. Changing 1200 rpm before will not help....
Everyone knows that a Lambo would not survive 3 laps, the breaks won’t live through it unless they get 10min to cool down. Anyways, love this show and much respect to Japanese engineering, but give Walter Röhrl the GT 3 and these lap times would look very different....
Lol you clearly do not know & have no idea what you are talking about The Porsche Drivers were just very bad, if proper drivers for them were given, they would compete the top 3, so there is no need for a walter Rohrl, plus the Gallardo was a high trim model (Superleggera)
@@剛田剛彦 If you ever driven a gt3 or 911 turbo AWD you would know the gt3 is actually slower than a 911 turbo all day and at every track. just pay attention to how keiichi tsuchiya drives the Porsche after the race. 911 turbo should of been closer to the GTR instead of the lamborghini since I Believe the superleggera is RWD and not AWD. the GTR was still going to win since thats why its built for. to embarrass everyone.
Best Motoring was a very precious show where all the cars raced fairly, although some drivers were better at driving certain cars. Porsche is of course fast, but it is more famous for its constant and stable performance.
@@junjun6890 Thats not true at all, Im a huge BM fan and I probabily watched most if not all but in some battles the cheating is just baffling and too obvious. Aside from this one here with the turbo letting GT-R pass, one comes to mind with the dark colored murcielago where he shifted at like 6000 rpm and waited to floor it all the time to let the NSX-r of all cars catch up IIRC. Or there was one where they raced older cars and the guy in the porsche waited in the last lap for the rx7 or maybe it was Silvia s15 or sth. I would remember many more if I thought about it. They do cheat but they still had often great races racing factory cars like no other reviewing house/automotive journalists do and you still get some sense how fast cars are compared to each other..
You can just see how he lets the GT-R pass in the turbo or the gt3 breaking 3x too soon than neccessary. They really should not have shown the pedals for ex. in the turbo because its too obvious how the guy in an awd porsche turbo waits before flooring it in corner (or gt3) until the GT_R comes and how he doesnt even bother to utilize the width of the track. I wonder whether they get told/paid to do it or is it just such strong patriotism.
It's best motoring. Normally Honda or the japanese brands win. There are other videos were you can clearly see that game is sometimes rigged. They also like to give the japanese cars better tires then the competition. But i still love best motoring espeically the touge battles.
best motoring is biased sometimes.if you see the year it was the year that the gtr was launched and they had to make it look good or they paid to do so .in other videos over the years gtrs lose to other cars so we can say that it was a bit biased to push the sales of the new japanese car but best motoring even with that is the best show for cars
@@georgeb.2949 They're going to lose honesty, & that will just make people hate the jdm cars, not love them, it's a strange strategy, that i doubt it ever works in the japanese market favor
NSX sound so like a racing car. GT-R is more normal and to grip. NSX's more fun to drive. I'm sure... Gallardo has good Downshift sound. But performance does not so racing like. Porsche has good brakes and the mid-ding. But the NSX sound is more race car. I would say a 911 is always good. but Honda has with NSX bit the better car.
How did you know that? Did you drive them in real life? lol You think you can hear the real sounds of its engine on UA-cam? Fuck no Just live in the internet life lol
Do you even know what are you talking about? how is that Gallardo performance is not so racing like? lol It's the Superleggera model, not the regular one, it does absolutely amazing in the track
so funny seeing the Porsche drivers braking about 100 feet early and shifting 1000-2000 rpms early. GT-R was never fast than a 911 turbo in acceleration or at GT3 around a track. Even funnier seeing a NSX-R competing with any of these cars. oh Best Motoring, you were so entertaining but should never have been taken seriously.
That was awful driving from the 911 pilots...sorry. They lost a second in a corner each and pretended to be surprised. Give us a break! It has nothing to do with fanboyism; they're visibly making mistakes that competent amateurs should not be making, period.
Honestly, i bet that even i can do better than them & beat the crap out of that NSX, with half the effort it's ironic how the driver looked like beginners
あの重さであのツッコミができるのはおっそろしいわ
Undoubtedly the best car tv show in the world.
Greetings from France !
でも当時、nsx-rは1300万。r35は800万と国産車比較でもコスパのダントツ度は抜きん出ていましたよね。
今やニスモは2800万だぜ
NSX-R過走行車2500万・・・
@@じゃがいも-w4b そりゃあ更に走りに振ってるんだから当たり前
スーパーレッジェーラの最終コーナーの立ち上がり素晴らしい
Seiji Ara is a very skilled driver. He operates the steering smoothly and exploits the NSX Type R at its full potential, that's mostly why he is that fast with a sub-300bhp car.
and because of the very well track orientated suspension and low weight
yess, the nsx-r did very well. altough it did not win, it has the fastest time among the porsches :D
And because this is bestmotoring
Ara is so, but the others are as skilled as he is.
@@lanesplitter8723 uh, no. because the NSX-R weighs 120 - 300 kg less than the Porsches, and that counts a hell of a lot on all those high speed sweepers and heavy braking zones.
新型NSXデビューしたし、またやって欲しいね。
35ごぼう抜きかいw
10年前でこの性能。
今やGTRは最強進化を果たしNISMOで筑波は1分を切る…
NSX-Rってすごいんだね。
I have learned one thing from all these races. GT-R is the most efficient car of any other on track. It might not be as speedy but man it is a corner monster
サムネ
GTR「オス！(Z戦士)」
NSXとその他「誰お前…」
ガヤルドスーパーレッジェーラがこんな速いなんて知らなかったな。
弱点のピレリタイヤはP-ZEROロッソでなくSタイヤなやつか。
車重自体は車検証ではノーマルから-70kgの1.5t程度だったか。
伊藤さんの突っ込みヤバいｗ
今、改めて観て思うのはデビュー時点ですでに３５が速かったってことが如何に凄かったかって話だよね。
８００万円を切る車がベンチマークしてた911turboに完勝して格上のガヤルドに惜敗って誰も文句が付けられないでしょ。なんだかんだ言われながらもデビュー時から速かったという事実と、32〜34のGTーRの正当な後継車種と納得させられるフォルムとコンセプトと速さ。これは本当に凄い事だったなと。
初代とは何の関連性も感じさせない新型で残念な結果しか残せなかったNSXとは大違いだよ。
あとカルロス・ゴーン。彼がいなかったらこの３５は絶対に存在しなかっただろうね。日本人社長だったら作りもしなかっただろうし、作ったとしても新型NSXみたいな車になってたろうな。
カルロス・ゴーンに再敬礼！
Mostly impressed with the NSX, even it has less Power and Torque, NSX can keeping up good with the other.
これだからキーちゃんは外せない
この車格の車なら、もっと広い富士や鈴鹿なんかのサーキットの方が存分に性能発揮できるから面白いと思うんだがな。
撮影するの大変だろうけど。
The GTR looks huge in size compared to the rest of the cars.
Exactly. And it's also heavier in fact.
The GT-R was always Huge lol
At least after the R32, the models started to get bigger
@@uhm175compare the R32 to it’s competitors at the time, it is also huge
さすが技術の日産！
NSX and GT3 great sound!
The Porsches definitely weren't being pushed to there limits like the other cars
Yeah, i noticed they were braking too early, & can't even balance the car :/
They didn't have good tyres.
GTRでかいなやっぱり
このサムネイルまじでカッケーな
R35出てもう13年になるんですね格好良いなぁ～～(*^^*)
こういう動画見てると
GT-Rってバーゲンプライスなんやろなぁ…
絶対的な値段は高いんやろうけど
最後の総論で重量（を軽くすること）を考えてほしいと土屋さんは言っているが、開発の水野さんはこの重量は必要不可欠だったというようなことを言ってたはず。その辺の認識の違いが気になるなー！
タイムアタックなら水野さん、5周勝負なら土屋さんなんだろうね。タイヤにもよるけど。
ニュルみたいな路面のギャプが多いコースは重量増やして設置しておかないと不安定になる
値段考えたらGTRえぐすぎるよね
why is he shortshifting the GT3?! He has at least another 1000 rpm until the max hp rpm. dfk?!
997.1 GT3: Nurburgring - 7:42:00
NSX Type R: Nurburgring - 7:56:73
not the same type of track...nurburngring has alot more straightlines..
and you really thinka 1k rpm will change something on a small track like that? 1k rmp wont save 3 sec difference on a laptime. youve clearly never drove a car on real track.
@@SubaruProduction It´s a N/A engine, it develops all its power at high rpm, the more high you go, the more power you get. Changing 1200 rpm before will not help....
Everyone knows that a Lambo would not survive 3 laps, the breaks won’t live through it unless they get 10min to cool down. Anyways, love this show and much respect to Japanese engineering, but give Walter Röhrl the GT 3 and these lap times would look very different....
Lol you clearly do not know & have no idea what you are talking about
The Porsche Drivers were just very bad, if proper drivers for them were given, they would compete the top 3, so there is no need for a walter Rohrl, plus the Gallardo was a high trim model (Superleggera)
gt3がnsxにタイムで負けてる( ; ゜Д゜)
新型NSXは結局車重の重い車になっちゃったな……
Yuuma GIANT
ラジエターを12個？くらい積んでるらしいのでしょうがないんですかね
役に立つ動画室 ! きっと軽さでコーナリングスピードを求める車よりパワーを求める車になる気がします。
やっぱりもうこのあたりになると見てても心踊らないよなぁ...
The turbo was an auto?
wow, you know you're failing when you're in a GT3 and get out braked by a GT-R
Yea
Wow you know someone has only got experience with computer games making comments like this.
Menuda bomba de relogeria e gtr 35 quien pudiera
it looks like the Porsches weren't driven as hard as the others... on purpose I might say...
@@剛田剛彦 If you ever driven a gt3 or 911 turbo AWD you would know the gt3 is actually slower than a 911 turbo all day and at every track. just pay attention to how keiichi tsuchiya drives the Porsche after the race. 911 turbo should of been closer to the GTR instead of the lamborghini since I Believe the superleggera is RWD and not AWD. the GTR was still going to win since thats why its built for. to embarrass everyone.
jmp216 The Superleggera is AWD
@@groovydutchman7257 yes AWD
Best Motoring was a very precious show where all the cars raced fairly, although some drivers were better at driving certain cars. Porsche is of course fast, but it is more famous for its constant and stable performance.
@@junjun6890 Thats not true at all, Im a huge BM fan and I probabily watched most if not all but in some battles the cheating is just baffling and too obvious. Aside from this one here with the turbo letting GT-R pass, one comes to mind with the dark colored murcielago where he shifted at like 6000 rpm and waited to floor it all the time to let the NSX-r of all cars catch up IIRC. Or there was one where they raced older cars and the guy in the porsche waited in the last lap for the rx7 or maybe it was Silvia s15 or sth. I would remember many more if I thought about it.
They do cheat but they still had often great races racing factory cars like no other reviewing house/automotive journalists do and you still get some sense how fast cars are compared to each other..
土屋さん、ダンボルギーニって言った？
Why did the 996 GT3 do better against the NSX-R at Tsukuba than the 997 GT3 did?
Because 911 turbo has a lot of turbo lag, this track sucks for it´s engine, and GT3 is lighter and more agile, perfect for this track.
@@Big1_ you didn't even answer his question
@@Big1_ it's not 997 turbo it's 997 gt3 which doesn't have a turbo
Bad driver issue, give it a proper driver, & it will eat the NSX to dust
NSX-Rで凄くないか！？
V6 3.2LのNAで大排気量&ハイパワーターボと互角に走れるなんて！！
俺的にはRより国宝だと思う。
同じパッケージングで定常進化して売り続けて欲しかったな(¯―¯)
同じく
現行NSXはNSXじゃないし
nsxは早いけど値段の割にはなぁ…
俺もGT-RよりNSX-R派
GTRやランエボもいいけど機械でゴテゴテ制御して速い車より素性を磨き上げて速いホンダ車やFDが好きだな
@@ku3310 今そういうピュアスポーツハチロクとかしか無いし海外見ても911くらいしか無いよね…もう…
ハイパワー化したらその分速くなるわけでもないけどね
You can just see how he lets the GT-R pass in the turbo or the gt3 breaking 3x too soon than neccessary. They really should not have shown the pedals for ex. in the turbo because its too obvious how the guy in an awd porsche turbo waits before flooring it in corner (or gt3) until the GT_R comes and how he doesnt even bother to utilize the width of the track. I wonder whether they get told/paid to do it or is it just such strong patriotism.
It's best motoring. Normally Honda or the japanese brands win. There are other videos were you can clearly see that game is sometimes rigged. They also like to give the japanese cars better tires then the competition. But i still love best motoring espeically the touge battles.
حرف شما کاملا درست هست همیشه میز را طوری میچینند تا محصول ژاپن برنده باشد
best motoring is biased sometimes.if you see the year it was the year that the gtr was launched and they had to make it look good or they paid to do so .in other videos over the years gtrs lose to other cars so we can say that it was a bit biased to push the sales of the new japanese car but best motoring even with that is the best show for cars
@@georgeb.2949 They're going to lose honesty, & that will just make people hate the jdm cars, not love them, it's a strange strategy, that i doubt it ever works in the japanese market favor
@@steffenkawa8374 You forget Mitsubishi too winning, & Sometimes Nissan, they always try to trash on Subaru Or Toyota & i have no idea why
That Gallardo tho :0
It sounds sexy
ランボルギーニって速いんだ！
トラクター造ってた会社だからね笑
ムルシエラゴ以降、アウディ傘下になってから激変しましたね(^O^)
See Fss なるほど、だから速いんだね！
最近ウラカンがニュル7分切ったよね
多田光輔 俺ってエロいんだ！
@@saredofuriko6231 ディアブロの前辺りはメーターがステアリングより上とか
NSX sound so like a racing car. GT-R is more normal and to grip. NSX's more fun to drive. I'm sure... Gallardo has good Downshift sound. But performance does not so racing like. Porsche has good brakes and the mid-ding. But the NSX sound is more race car.
I would say a 911 is always good. but Honda has with NSX bit the better car.
How did you know that? Did you drive them in real life? lol
You think you can hear the real sounds of its engine on UA-cam?
Fuck no
Just live in the internet life lol
Do you even know what are you talking about? how is that Gallardo performance is not so racing like? lol
It's the Superleggera model, not the regular one, it does absolutely amazing in the track
so funny seeing the Porsche drivers braking about 100 feet early and shifting 1000-2000 rpms early. GT-R was never fast than a 911 turbo in acceleration or at GT3 around a track. Even funnier seeing a NSX-R competing with any of these cars. oh Best Motoring, you were so entertaining but should never have been taken seriously.
You missed that this is 2008. GT3 had no chance back then.
@@sashazxtt Lmao, you are an 1d1ot
Guy in the GT3 was driving like a granny
911 turbo 5??? Really?? Mmm....
The driver said it doesn't fit Tsukuba.
率直に言って35は現代のゼロ戦ですね。R35 the modern Zero Fighter
Реклама гтр
NSXこれじゃかわいそうだよー。
山田太郎
280馬力だからしゃあない
でもNSXもコーナー速いけどね
なんでガヤルドこんな速いん？w
なんでNSXは300馬力でターボの前にいるんだね？
あと、R35はノーマルで走行モードのチョイスでFR化できるんですけど...あえてしないで行く感じですか。
NSXは軽さとレイアウトで勝ってたんですかね…馬力は直線少ないですしコーナリングで稼げれば勝てそうですね。ターボは低回転数、低トルクの域ではあまり効果がないのではと…。
その設定の有無は良く知りませんがガヤルドSLと条件を合わせるためだと…。
詳しくないので全て推測になりますが、参考までに。
hato ssavure 多分軽さと空力ですよね。いくらターボが低回転が比較的弱いと言っても3.2LNA高回転egよりは低速トルクあると思いますし。さて、この勝負GT2が顔を出したらどうなるんだろうね。
タイヤの違いが大きいです。
外車勢は燃費タイヤとスポーツタイヤの中間みたいなクラスのラジアルを履くのが多いんですが、日本の一部スポーツカーはSタイヤに近いコンパウンドのラジアルを履くのでコーナーが段違いになるんですよ。
+1nvillage あ、FD2がいい例でしたね。
でも、タイヤチョイスも合わせて車をつくることですから、そこで勝つのはナシっていうのはナシですよね。
stk c30a ナシとは言いませんよ。
速く走るという意味ではタイヤの比重は大きいので、そこで勝つのは重要な事。
ただそういうスポーツタイヤは街乗り性能が劣っているのは確か。
街乗りもしっかり考慮して作っている外車勢の懐の深さには、まだまだ日本車も負けているなと思いますね。
四駆にあらずんばなんちゃらってな
須藤京一(頭文字D)｢ハイパワーターボ＋4WD、この条件にあらずんば車にあらずだ｣
@@ad-ni5ic 実際はLSD無しのハイパワーターボ(無いけど…)はダメダメだけどね…
メカニズムをやたらと語る「湾岸ミッドナイト」なら「フロントヘリカルLSD、リヤ機械式LSDの絶妙なセッティングが決まった車が最高だ！」と言いそう
Porche 2008 slow
Now to much fast
この回はGTR以外、他の車は全て広報車なのかな？
Ruuuuuuusiiiiiiaaaaaa
なんでAT？
That was awful driving from the 911 pilots...sorry. They lost a second in a corner each and pretended to be surprised. Give us a break! It has nothing to do with fanboyism; they're visibly making mistakes that competent amateurs should not be making, period.
Oh this is pure fanboyism as you put it. Porsche fanboys probably are the most irritating ones out there🙄
Honestly, i bet that even i can do better than them & beat the crap out of that NSX, with half the effort
it's ironic how the driver looked like beginners
ガヤルドがコーナーで抜かすって！？せめてストレートでガツンと言わせて欲しかった
35モンスターだろw
それでも俺はポルシェがいい
GTR速いけどスペシャリティ感が薄い
スペシャリティってのもそうだし何より高級ピュアスポーツっていう凄い特徴持ってるからまぁ金がありゃ911やね
V6ツインターボって味わいは無いですしね
Bad acting .
なんでポルシェターボなんだろう
GT2RS持ってこいよ
997世代のGT2RSが発表されたのは2010年5月です。
持ってこれても996世代のものになりますね。
GT-Rのベンチマークがターボだったからね、スペックがまさにそれだし
Fake race
Because the car you like didn't win? Fml.🤦♂️
@@Flying_GC Because it s Long Story ..
Watch you better this video ..
@@zoricasremcevic8705 porche not to fast 2008.. 2020 yes so fast
当たり前だよなあ？
@@rashbf9686 Nice joke
うj
重たいくてやたら大きくブサイクなボディでもハイパワーのエンジンと賢い制御系とデッカいタイヤ履かせたら速くなるんだね、ということがわかる動画。
買えない奴のひがみがよく分かるコメント
そんな単純なもんじゃないよ。
タイヤの性能を最大限に活かした設計しているし、重い分ボディ剛性が高いのだよ。
買えもしない層が文句言っても誰も聞かないよねwwwww
MICHAEL KING
私は、あなたに賛同します。スーパーカーは美しくないと行けません
@@lycanthrope68 魅力に気づかないだけなのでは
これGTR本当にノーマルか…？
広報車チューンやってますよ
MCR所有のノーマルGT-Rですよ
どの広報車もタイムは2秒台なのでノーマルだね
Go Dori Dori!
うj