1:06:35 The "older" actors did this show so much justice. The took it seriously, acted it as if it all was normal and killed their roles. Had they not, none of it would have worked near close to what it did. Finding out LA Sanji got LA Zeff the job is just glorious. One Piece hit me similar to how Arcane did..........in a completely different way. I can't seemingly get sick of watching it.......also have now watched quite a bit of the anime and well.........becoming obsessed.......and I had never heard of One Piece until a youtube channel the mixes reactors reacting to shows put out a few of the first episodes. Months after it aired. I still have a netflix subscription only for rewatches.
One thing about the editing is Matt Owens didn't get to finish editing. Once the strike started it was left to the studio to finish. They also planned for 10 episodes but the approaching budget wall and strike pushed it down to 8. For sure there was going to be at least 1 more episode of Cocoyashi Village and Arlong Park where Zoro, Sanji, and Usopp were going to have their respective 1 on 1s, which would have included Hachi as well as Usopp getting his entire moment from the Manga. Genzo and Nojiko were also going to get more screen time and lines to build up Nami's scene, but they had to cut it and smush it together. I'm basing this on Matt Owens comments during his most recent appearance on Hasan Pikers stream. Matt Owens also mentions they have a plan to introduce Hachi if they can get all the way to Sabaody. With Basically stating Hachi had decided to leave Arlongs crew early because he couldn't take his cruelty towards humans.
I love how you guys are talking about the love the cast had for One Piece, most reviewers missed that crucial detail. Everyone thinks Oda's involvement is the reason for the show's success, not that it was a team. Only way season 2 can fail if specific character looks bad, I pray they get it right.
and even if that character itself looks bad - convincing acting (voice-acting?) from the character and the rest of the cast, and clever camera usage could still make it okay i think🤔
I think that in considering the budget for the following seasons it's important to know that they sunk so much of their budget this season into their infrastructure. They did thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hours of casting work, and from my understanding they know who's being cast for the next few seasons at least ... Or at least they were able to tease a hell of a number of potential characters during the execution. They built so many props and locations they'll be able to reuse for next season (Loguetown looks set and ready for them to start filming from what it looks like in Roger's execution sequence.) and I suspect they will get to reuse some material that had to be stripped from season 1. I'm excited for whenever we get to experience this delightful world again. This was a delightful review of the series.
Glad you enjoyed the review and yeah we are all really excited to see where the next seasons go. As we get into the Grandline I know they will have to make some concessions for how to adapt certain characters but it will be interesting to see how they approach some of those production issues transferring it to live action
The Barrel scene is in the anime but not in the same way. (It happens a little later) The barrel scene in the live action was actually a result of an editor's idea. Steve Maeda mentioned it in an interview during the strike.
oh my god if they wouldve been able to put "to the grand line" in a good place in the live action, i wouldve immediately start crying i think! such an epic, sweeping piece of music... did you know that theres a video on youtube where a live orchestra plays the whole song? maybe you want to watch that - i wish i could see that live once 😭
Of the things discussed in regards to changes in regards to the source material, I think it is unfortunate they didn't briefly touch on the way Usopp didn't get his moment to shine. They did touch on Nami's personality changing, but not that her story arc was changed and how it softened the impact of her self-destructive episode. The villagers of Coco Village originally play a far larger role, trying to be standoffish to her because they want to give her the freedom to give up on the childish quest she embarked upon and just run away from Arlong to pursue her own happiness. The sister is actually the one person who supports her most, and takes a bullet to protect Nami during the theft of the accumulated loot. In regards to Garp & the dog hat, the hat primarily served as a means to keep his identity hidden from the reader, because Oda had shown the character before in an earlier iteration of One Piece that got published a year or so before the modern-day behemoth saw its first chapter. After the reveal, he wore it less or not at all. I think it is unfortunate you didn't bring up the in-joke regarding calling out attack names, or that Zoro is against it. Why is he against it? Because he can't do that shit while holding a weapon in his mouth in a live action setting. Manga/anime Zoro is just as bad at it as the rest of them! In regards to the foreshadowed antagonist for the next season, I think it would have been useful to just point out that that guy is meant to be the first one to truly chase after Luffy & co. With Garp having been inserted earlier into the story (with his insanely high rank of Vice-Admiral!) the live action is going to have to do a great job to make this new enemy with a far lower rank still feel like the huge threat he is given the general theme that ranks and bounties equate to threat levels. (They'll pull it off, I'm sure.. but it will still hit different.) Finally, on the topic of Luffy being an inconsiderate idiot in the anime compared to the more likable and empathic one in the live action.. Luffy has a very primal personality. He's not good at listening to complicated stories, strategizing or all that stuff. He is good at reading people. He knows Nami is not bad, just like how he knew Zoro wasn't bad, either. He doesn't need to hear her backstory, or why she did what she did, because he'll accept her as his friend regardless and be there to do for her what she cannot do on her own. In his eyes, if she ends up betraying him, that is on him for being a bad judge of character. His ability to trust and understand a person without needing to have things spelled out is his strength... until it blows up in his face, if it ever does, anyway. (Gotta keep that comment ambiguous / spoiler-free..!) Thanks for the fun podcast review! Edit: Almost forgot.. Cowboy Bebop as a show was shunned by its original creator to the point that they didn't even bother watching the entirety of the first episode. He knew they got it totally wrong, especially after his opinions didn't hold much weight during the production and he was sidelined. Eiichiro Oda was a genius for having a very strict 'you are not getting the license unless I have the full sign-off on the end product' clause as part of his contract... unfortunately, the creator of Bebop didn't actually own the rights himself, so it was trivially easy to sideline him.
This so far is a great talk. Ive been a fan of One Piece since 2012 when I was 20 years old, where I started fresh and caught up to the anime. The anime was around episode 580 at the time. I have watched the show 3 times over, with a friend and then my girlfriend both until the end of Dressrosa, around episode 750 or so. All that being said, I think the soundtrack is overlooked by alot of people. To Become the Pirate King and The Worlds Number One Oden Store built a feeling of wonder and adventure I had not heard in any other anime. It reminded me of all the adventurous JRPG's I played growing up, and gave me a sense of nostalgia even when I did not have any prior experience with One Piece. It quickly surpassed Naruto as my favorite anime, and unfortunately One Piece makes it hard for me to become a super fan of other animes. I would not trade it for anything though, and all I can do is sing its praises while recognizing its shortcoming. TLDR: Good talk, good show, great anime.
The people behind One Piece and Cowboy Bebop actually released an interview where they explained why One Piece is so much better, and it basically boils down to: "We read the reviews, we read the comments, and we realized that people want a transposition of the manga/anime in a live-action format and not a complete and total adaptation from source. They want to relate the live action to the original show, and from there they decide whether or not they like it." And so they did exactly that: they called Oda, they asked him to participate in the creation, had some back and forth, insisted on a few things that Oda didn't originally want - I believe that the sub-plot of Garp was something the studio wanted and had to persuade Oda to accept - and came out a beast of its own, the perfect blend between nostalgia and originality.
6 months to watch One piece? That is quite a long time, I couldn't handle it knowing it was because I was busy with other stuff. I guess it is different for everybody. It took me 2 months of binge watching to be up to date.
so, seeing as youre talking about wanting to see nami fight more - thats actually something that im REALLY looking forward to in season 2 and beyond, if thats in the stars for this series. bc im a big big big big nami fan in the manga/anime to the point that ive gotten her tangerine-windmill tattoo myself, and her fight in the next big story arc has been one of my favourites since i first saw it when i was a little girl. im SO excited (and a bit scared) to see how theyre gonna adapt her very unique weapon/fighting style in the future because god i have fantasized about being able to do what shes able to do for sooo long :D so yeah - i wanna see more nami fighting as well, and luckily, if they get to that point, we should see that in the next season aaah im so excited!!!
Nami barely fights in the beginning of One Piece, other than occasionally knocking out cannon fodder. She definitely fought more in the Live Action than the manga. So that nitpick was a little surprsing to me.
@@KyouOneZilla well, THEY dont know that :) nami still fights way less than the others, so i get it! its sad to see her left out of cool fight sequences, especially bc the few time we see emily rudd do the staff work she looks so cool!
Thanks for the episode it was super Nice to listen to while i ate my dinner tonight! - and yes this first season made me want all 1000+ chapters adapted
I feel like the key to adapting an anime into live action is to make it feel real and practical, but also keeping true to the source material. It's one thing to see an animated character act like an idiot for the sake of comedy (not an insult, just an observation), but seeing someone act like that in real life would just be unsettling. Another thing is the story pacing: there are no filler arcs or stretched out moments, so it feels like a natural progression instead of people glaring at each other for ten episodes straight interlaced with flashbacks and inner thoughts. In short, a live action anime adaptation needs to be real enough.
1:06:35 The "older" actors did this show so much justice. The took it seriously, acted it as if it all was normal and killed their roles. Had they not, none of it would have worked near close to what it did. Finding out LA Sanji got LA Zeff the job is just glorious.
One Piece hit me similar to how Arcane did..........in a completely different way. I can't seemingly get sick of watching it.......also have now watched quite a bit of the anime and well.........becoming obsessed.......and I had never heard of One Piece until a youtube channel the mixes reactors reacting to shows put out a few of the first episodes. Months after it aired. I still have a netflix subscription only for rewatches.
As a longtime OP fan this is the best thing I’ve heard in a while😢
One thing about the editing is Matt Owens didn't get to finish editing. Once the strike started it was left to the studio to finish. They also planned for 10 episodes but the approaching budget wall and strike pushed it down to 8. For sure there was going to be at least 1 more episode of Cocoyashi Village and Arlong Park where Zoro, Sanji, and Usopp were going to have their respective 1 on 1s, which would have included Hachi as well as Usopp getting his entire moment from the Manga. Genzo and Nojiko were also going to get more screen time and lines to build up Nami's scene, but they had to cut it and smush it together. I'm basing this on Matt Owens comments during his most recent appearance on Hasan Pikers stream. Matt Owens also mentions they have a plan to introduce Hachi if they can get all the way to Sabaody. With Basically stating Hachi had decided to leave Arlongs crew early because he couldn't take his cruelty towards humans.
I love how you guys are talking about the love the cast had for One Piece, most reviewers missed that crucial detail. Everyone thinks Oda's involvement is the reason for the show's success, not that it was a team. Only way season 2 can fail if specific character looks bad, I pray they get it right.
and even if that character itself looks bad - convincing acting (voice-acting?) from the character and the rest of the cast, and clever camera usage could still make it okay i think🤔
Yeah, you know they're sticking a pair of antlers on a kid's head
I think that in considering the budget for the following seasons it's important to know that they sunk so much of their budget this season into their infrastructure. They did thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hours of casting work, and from my understanding they know who's being cast for the next few seasons at least ... Or at least they were able to tease a hell of a number of potential characters during the execution. They built so many props and locations they'll be able to reuse for next season (Loguetown looks set and ready for them to start filming from what it looks like in Roger's execution sequence.) and I suspect they will get to reuse some material that had to be stripped from season 1.
I'm excited for whenever we get to experience this delightful world again. This was a delightful review of the series.
Glad you enjoyed the review and yeah we are all really excited to see where the next seasons go. As we get into the Grandline I know they will have to make some concessions for how to adapt certain characters but it will be interesting to see how they approach some of those production issues transferring it to live action
The Barrel scene is in the anime but not in the same way. (It happens a little later) The barrel scene in the live action was actually a result of an editor's idea. Steve Maeda mentioned it in an interview during the strike.
oh my god if they wouldve been able to put "to the grand line" in a good place in the live action, i wouldve immediately start crying i think! such an epic, sweeping piece of music... did you know that theres a video on youtube where a live orchestra plays the whole song? maybe you want to watch that - i wish i could see that live once 😭
Of the things discussed in regards to changes in regards to the source material, I think it is unfortunate they didn't briefly touch on the way Usopp didn't get his moment to shine. They did touch on Nami's personality changing, but not that her story arc was changed and how it softened the impact of her self-destructive episode. The villagers of Coco Village originally play a far larger role, trying to be standoffish to her because they want to give her the freedom to give up on the childish quest she embarked upon and just run away from Arlong to pursue her own happiness. The sister is actually the one person who supports her most, and takes a bullet to protect Nami during the theft of the accumulated loot.
In regards to Garp & the dog hat, the hat primarily served as a means to keep his identity hidden from the reader, because Oda had shown the character before in an earlier iteration of One Piece that got published a year or so before the modern-day behemoth saw its first chapter. After the reveal, he wore it less or not at all.
I think it is unfortunate you didn't bring up the in-joke regarding calling out attack names, or that Zoro is against it. Why is he against it? Because he can't do that shit while holding a weapon in his mouth in a live action setting. Manga/anime Zoro is just as bad at it as the rest of them!
In regards to the foreshadowed antagonist for the next season, I think it would have been useful to just point out that that guy is meant to be the first one to truly chase after Luffy & co. With Garp having been inserted earlier into the story (with his insanely high rank of Vice-Admiral!) the live action is going to have to do a great job to make this new enemy with a far lower rank still feel like the huge threat he is given the general theme that ranks and bounties equate to threat levels. (They'll pull it off, I'm sure.. but it will still hit different.)
Finally, on the topic of Luffy being an inconsiderate idiot in the anime compared to the more likable and empathic one in the live action.. Luffy has a very primal personality. He's not good at listening to complicated stories, strategizing or all that stuff. He is good at reading people. He knows Nami is not bad, just like how he knew Zoro wasn't bad, either. He doesn't need to hear her backstory, or why she did what she did, because he'll accept her as his friend regardless and be there to do for her what she cannot do on her own. In his eyes, if she ends up betraying him, that is on him for being a bad judge of character. His ability to trust and understand a person without needing to have things spelled out is his strength... until it blows up in his face, if it ever does, anyway. (Gotta keep that comment ambiguous / spoiler-free..!)
Thanks for the fun podcast review!
Edit: Almost forgot.. Cowboy Bebop as a show was shunned by its original creator to the point that they didn't even bother watching the entirety of the first episode. He knew they got it totally wrong, especially after his opinions didn't hold much weight during the production and he was sidelined. Eiichiro Oda was a genius for having a very strict 'you are not getting the license unless I have the full sign-off on the end product' clause as part of his contract... unfortunately, the creator of Bebop didn't actually own the rights himself, so it was trivially easy to sideline him.
This so far is a great talk.
Ive been a fan of One Piece since 2012 when I was 20 years old, where I started fresh and caught up to the anime. The anime was around episode 580 at the time.
I have watched the show 3 times over, with a friend and then my girlfriend both until the end of Dressrosa, around episode 750 or so.
All that being said, I think the soundtrack is overlooked by alot of people. To Become the Pirate King and The Worlds Number One Oden Store built a feeling of wonder and adventure I had not heard in any other anime.
It reminded me of all the adventurous JRPG's I played growing up, and gave me a sense of nostalgia even when I did not have any prior experience with One Piece.
It quickly surpassed Naruto as my favorite anime, and unfortunately One Piece makes it hard for me to become a super fan of other animes. I would not trade it for anything though, and all I can do is sing its praises while recognizing its shortcoming.
TLDR: Good talk, good show, great anime.
The people behind One Piece and Cowboy Bebop actually released an interview where they explained why One Piece is so much better, and it basically boils down to:
"We read the reviews, we read the comments, and we realized that people want a transposition of the manga/anime in a live-action format and not a complete and total adaptation from source. They want to relate the live action to the original show, and from there they decide whether or not they like it."
And so they did exactly that: they called Oda, they asked him to participate in the creation, had some back and forth, insisted on a few things that Oda didn't originally want - I believe that the sub-plot of Garp was something the studio wanted and had to persuade Oda to accept - and came out a beast of its own, the perfect blend between nostalgia and originality.
may I know the title of that interview? I'd like to watch it too!
6 months to watch One piece? That is quite a long time, I couldn't handle it knowing it was because I was busy with other stuff. I guess it is different for everybody. It took me 2 months of binge watching to be up to date.
its amazing video review
so, seeing as youre talking about wanting to see nami fight more - thats actually something that im REALLY looking forward to in season 2 and beyond, if thats in the stars for this series. bc im a big big big big nami fan in the manga/anime to the point that ive gotten her tangerine-windmill tattoo myself, and her fight in the next big story arc has been one of my favourites since i first saw it when i was a little girl. im SO excited (and a bit scared) to see how theyre gonna adapt her very unique weapon/fighting style in the future because god i have fantasized about being able to do what shes able to do for sooo long :D so yeah - i wanna see more nami fighting as well, and luckily, if they get to that point, we should see that in the next season aaah im so excited!!!
Nami barely fights in the beginning of One Piece, other than occasionally knocking out cannon fodder. She definitely fought more in the Live Action than the manga. So that nitpick was a little surprsing to me.
@@KyouOneZilla well, THEY dont know that :) nami still fights way less than the others, so i get it! its sad to see her left out of cool fight sequences, especially bc the few time we see emily rudd do the staff work she looks so cool!
Nami not a combatant
@@royalfun1031 perhaps not in the beginning, but she later becomes basically a wizard.
Thanks for the episode it was super Nice to listen to while i ate my dinner tonight! - and yes this first season made me want all 1000+ chapters adapted
I feel like the key to adapting an anime into live action is to make it feel real and practical, but also keeping true to the source material. It's one thing to see an animated character act like an idiot for the sake of comedy (not an insult, just an observation), but seeing someone act like that in real life would just be unsettling.
Another thing is the story pacing: there are no filler arcs or stretched out moments, so it feels like a natural progression instead of people glaring at each other for ten episodes straight interlaced with flashbacks and inner thoughts.
In short, a live action anime adaptation needs to be real enough.
Haha, this was fun! New listener.
i completed naruto 700 episodes in 1 month 1 day and one piece 750 upto zou in 3 months. so it's not that long if u watch 20+ a day