Kimera Kolors Review: Can the Average Painter Use Them?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Hi guys! Something new again today! I want to start trying products from different hobby companies so I can help you guys choose the best products for your different wargaming or miniature painting projects! Many army painters steer away from using artist paints, or mixing paints as they are used to having a different pot for every colour and want to get through projects as fast as possible. I want to try see if I can persuade you to try something new with these Kimera Kolors and show you that there's no need to be intimidated!
When Kimera head about my series on trying out paint ranges from companies other than Games Workshop, they very kindly sent me a box of their high quality pure pigments base colours box set, which you can get yourself through the link below!
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Not sure if you are looking for any advice/criticism but I’d like to be honest because I think your channel has a lot of potential. The music was pretty overbearing. I also found it a bit distracting when you were talking. I’d personally recommend lowering the volume and using it a bit more sparingly. Definitely gonna subscribe, otherwise this video was very interesting. Cheers!
Cheers dude. Ye I’ve had a few comments about music on this video. I shall look into it. Glad you liked the video. And thanks for the sub.
Ditto
I knew you’d eventually branch out from GW paints/products but you just jumped into the deep end! Kimera paints today……Golden Demon tomorrow!
HahahHa ye mite have gone to hard to fast lol. Next one is army painter lol
@@MediocreHobbies Cool. I’m using Army Painter but I just bankrupted my hobby fund to get into Pro Acryl.
really annoynig music, when you play video 1,5 speed or higher it is unbearable
Thank uou
Definitely usable for the average painter, even if you're not into mixing. Just buy the individual colours you need/want to supplement your other brand paints. Will be nice when the recent expansion set 1 colours are released for individual sale...
Speaking of other brands to supplement with. I feel like Monument Hobbies Pro Acryl goes quite nicely with Kimera, and there's a lot more pre-mixed colours for people who don't want to mix their own. Definitely worth checking them out if you can get your hands on them.
I’m actually already in talks with them to get some of there paints sent across for a future video so I’m excited for that. And yes there are fantastic paints. Even just using them straight out of the bottle as is.
What do you think guys? Will you be trying them out?
I'm glad you enjoyed using them. I had a similar experience as you when I picked them up. I was a little daunted at first but learnt lots quickly and enjoyed the process.
I continue to use other paints, but my preference and my proudest paint jobs have all been using Kimera paints.
Kimera has been on my list to purchase for a long time. It is hard to find stock. As soon as they are released in the US they sell out. When you paint the Kimera minis I would love to see you paint it with only their paints. It would be interesting to see what you learn during the process. Great video!
I got a pack off someone in January and I've been a bit scared of using them "incorrectly". Good points in the video Andy about their covering power and the reliable mixes of single pigment paints. Also on how it can be scary to try these "artist" paints. But at the end of the day, they can be used as you like - the matt finish is as good for a basecoat as it is for glazing or highlighting! Really inspiring to see you step towards an artist mindset of seeing them as tools in a toolbox.
Paints look awesome. The music tho. So bad. I had to turn video off halfway. You don’t need it dude. Love the channel otherwise
Your background music is… well… way too much in the foreground. Please tone it down, so that your viewers can hear what you are saying without being distracted. Thanks!
It’s an old video. Hopefully it’s improved somebody then.
the Kimera colors is expensive and the same result with the Andréa colors for a half price!
Never heard of them but I will have a look thank you.
Love the content. Hate the music XD
I’ve been getting that allot lol
Here's the link to the Kickstarter starting on April 20th! tinyurl.com/tenebraemh Due to the upcoming Kickstarter, the Kolors will not be available via the website for a while, only through the Kickstarter!
Can the average painter use them? Yes. Can the average painter find them? No.
Haha I know, hopefully once the Kickstarter rewards are sent out things will settle and they’ll be stocked properly again!
Thanks for the video, definitely putting these on the wishlist, and I'm excited to see more hands-on reviews of other company's ranges!
PS, A minor, unsolicited, constructive nitpick, if you don't mind: The music was a tad overpowering/distracting during some parts where you were talking, particularly starting around the 7:45 mark.
Thanks pal a few people have mentioned that I will have a look at see what I can do.
Good video as always! People have already mention you about the music, so Im not going to repeat it, but, it would be nice to change it to a more relaxing or calm music. Juan Hidalgo's videos are a great example. But its your choice :) Cheers!
Cheers pal I will have a look.
@@MediocreHobbies agree with this sentiment. The music is really quite awful and distracting.
Awesome presentation, especially from a miniature painters point of view who just wants to paint minis in the classic style.
May I ask a question regarding the "thinning of the paint"? How much (if at all) do you thin the Kimera paint? Are they useable straight from the bottle?
I use the cheapest craft paints and is ok :))
Of that works for you and your happy then I see no problem with it. As long as your enjoying your hobby pal.
Nice vid. I've had these in the back of my mind after seeing a few pro painters use them on their channels, but your reaction to their coverage and smoothness has led me to raise their priority.
They have a new Kickstarter soon. You mite get a great deal from them then.
I started out with only citadel paint but have picked up paints from Vallejo, pro-acryl, scale 75 and some oils. I’m still learning but find if for example the whites in citadel are terrible but army painter do a lovely white. It’s mix/match which is fun. The Vallejo metallics are excellent, chrome and aluminium are great. Look forward to seeing the schemes you come with.
I’m starting that same journey myself and I’m very excited to try all the ranges.
Amazing paint I'm looking forward to seeing u paint a full model with these paints
Ye I’m looking forward to giving it a try.
Can the average painter use them? No they are sold out everywhere. :(
They have a new Kickstarter in the next few days and have them up on that so you will probably get a great deal
I like to see you exploring other paint options for us. I can see myself using them for a more individual model projects like Marvel Protocol, Gloomhaven or Necromunda but I don't know about using them for a whole WH army. I don't know if I could get the same blend of paints throughout the army.
I 100% agree with you on that one. What about the point of them being really good strong basecoats so no mixing? To supplement your normal collection.
Nice vid!
I know you mentioned it in passing in the end, but it's worth pointing out that Kimera are heavy body acrylics, so using them without a wet palette is, let's say annoying^^
I've only bought/used a few of their colours so far (dip my toe in, so to say^^), and from those few, I'm very impressed. I don't think I'd use them for a complete army (since mixing a particular hue for 200+ models will be annoying), but for individual pieces, h*ll ye!
As for the music, can't say that I found it especially annoying. There are videos out there that are much much more annoying, where I actually have to turn the sound off.
Will look forward to more from this series and more on your journey with Kimera. Can't wait to see what you'll think about Pro Acryl.
Cheers pal agree on all points
@@MediocreHobbies Forgot to add (old stupid memory^^)
But really appreciate you pointing out the cost per/ml, since all to many people just focus on cost/pot. (For some reason)
@@Himle_ ye it’s a strange thing to not mention. They are really good value.
Music is too loud
I shall have a look.
Color mixing is so fun!! I really enjoy it with the Kimera paints.
Same. Liked it more then I ever thought I would.
Cool
That’s an old video pal glad people are still enjoying it.
That explains why citadel paints stagnates so much. If they don't even let you guys discuss or talk about trying other paints then they're never going to get better at actually making paint or understand that they have a problem. They're just going to keep putting out the same things over and over and over, I have been wondering for a very long time almost nobody prefers the pots yet they keep putting them out this all makes sense they're not actually open to criticism and fixing the problem
If I’m working in a shop, it’s totally normal not to recommend rival products.
If the paints were really that bad, people wouldn’t buy them. High end golden demon painters wouldn’t use them in their projects(obviously they use a wide range but they do still include them) Totally agree about the pots though but so many companies have dropped bottles that waste more paint too.
The music is too loud.
I shall have a look and adjust for future videos thank you.
and to uplifting for background music...
@@volkerp.2262 cheers
I’ve been using Kimera for about 6 months now mainly on character figures from Marvel Crisis Protocol.
Absolutely fantastic paints,very Matt finish on them with a lovely coverage.
I find blending with them with the use of a pallet very easy to do.
I don’t think I can go back to another manufacturer,unless it’s for batch painting for an army.
Highly recommended.
By the way,the mixing is fun!
They supply booklets which gives you colour charts to help with the mixing process.
I have not failed to mix up the colour I’ve required over many figures.
They are such good paints.
Very average painter here, been painting for years on and off, used to have loads and loads of paint pots and extensive cramps and frustration when i needed half an hour to shake or trying to reconstitute dried up paints. Gave Kimera a shot and got blown away by their quality. After a couple of months i sold all my still usable old pots. With the money I made, I bought a cheap vortex mixer (bye bye cramps XD) and better brushes. I now learnt to mix whatever colour i want and enjoy the process of painting so much more than before.
They are just amazing paints if you have the patience to learn how to use them.
Different hobby products for miniatures are always a good thing. Anything that keeps money away from GW and their bullcrap.
Always new and exciting ways to push our hobbies further. So many to explore
Too lazy to mix my paints 😂😂😂😂. The black looks good. Great review. Looking forward to seeing more
I will never not have this black on my collection. And I GeForce the same before with played around with it. Then it was quite fun. Not for big projects but for the extra effort on characters yes.
Yeah, great video. Definitely drop the music in the background.
No worries. Thanks for the heads up.
I liked this video. I have recently been listening to painters talk about mixing and while we try it in small ways with GW paints, I had never really thought about how pure the colours were. Having that guide is really cool because it would give me to chance to experiment. If I want to go lighter than their example then I can. It would be cool to see a full mini as well and your thought process about what to mix etc.
The shield initial looked very simple, but I think I confused that with the pureness of the colour, because in the end it looked very clean, (a good thing) that is a basis for other products like shades. There was something unrestrictive about the end result. With GW paints some colours are brilliant, but I feel these limit colours unlock your decisions with mixing.
Looking forward to the others and I think I see these in a different light.
Thank you so much pal. I’m also very much looking forward to playing around with these paints on the future and sharing my results.
I'm a pretty new painter who is also leaning heavily on contrast / drybrush to get most of my definition done. I've been buying a bunch of GW paints to make sure I have all the colors I need because mixing colors kind of intimidates me.
I'm honestly super tempted at this point. That red is so nuts all by itself!
It is nuts. Just getting your hands on them for some strong basecoats is a great use. And then playing around with mixing as you go. Just make sure you do have a wet pallet or they will not be fun to work with
As a big Vallejo user I was intrigued by these. I have a set coming and will be mixing my butt off soon. Single pigment colors (especially the white) are the way to go.
Agreed
Really, with the help of the oncluded colpr guide and some time spent this set will only up ypur game. Mixing colors is not as hard asnsome have made it out to be. And with this skill it just opens up doors that allow you to make complimentary colors without having to own endless racks pf colpr trios and quatros.
They send the colours in February 2023? And why the heck are these (and all other) colors so f.....g expensive?
The paints are around €5 each before shipping and will last a very long time, as well as being very high quality artist paint. The original base paint orders will be sent out before then, the miniatures are the main focus of the kickstarter which require the Feb 2023 date.
@@MediocreHobbies ah ok sounds better then I understand (not native speaker). I will try them
Kimera colors is more expensive than citadel contrast is the records!
Yes but you only need one box and of chimera.
Interesting paint set. The colours look great. But can I leave contrast painting.....I don't know ha!
Contrast will always be king.
@@MediocreHobbies so quick and easy. It just suits my current timeframe and energy levels.
@@AdventureswithPeps I get you buddy.
Thanks for the video! I’m curious, do you have a link (or even just a name) for those paint racks in the background?
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I get asked about them so much lol
Will support, did enjoy. Subscribed.
Thanks so much!
Have you done a comparison of proacryl vs kimera?
Not yet. But it is in the plans.
Citadel paints have ended up being more expensive than the heavy body acrylics by golden which are some of the most professional paints out there while being nowhere nearly as good and with the extra negative of having stupid pots that make the paint dry of spill the paint. Anyone still buying citadel paints today is being very stupid.
That may be a slightly harsh view. Remember there isn’t so no at guides out there showing people these amazing paints. Guides that are easy to follow for new painters are all using citadel paints. People get comfortable with them and find it hard to change. I’m doing a whole series on different paint brands and how they can help people so maybe that will help in some small way.
Which paint do you recommand for beginners which are not expensive as diamonds?
@@DieTabbi These paints work out at about €5 per paint, compared to GW paints which are harder to mix and therefore require a much wider range in your collection that usually cost around €3.60 for much less paint. Depending on your budget, it can be much cheaper to investa little more at the start for paints that will last a lot longer.
I already had these paints on my wishlist, but never saw a review of them. Great vid! You have a nice pace with your videos and it's very chill to listen :)
Ah cheers pal. That means a lot.
There is reviews all over UA-cam about Kimera paints.
Thank you for sharing your first impressions with this. This is a first since like you said I have only ever seen bust or center piece painters show them off. I was missing the "regular" painter faction in all those vids.
Cheers pal. Glad you liked it and yes I noticed the same.
@@MediocreHobbies And I have been considering picking them up before but there is so many tools out there already :D But this vid is giving some nicer inside from someone I feel like I can replicate their paintjob quality in the same time they spent. Important note is though that I have not seen how you attack the center piece of an absolute passion project, which I would love to btw.
@@10urion that’s so cool to read. And yes I have many plans for center pieces don’t worry.
Expensive means better
Most of the time yes. I agree
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Cheers pal.
I'd really like see you to paint Drukhari & Genestealers. Just as a mention. =)
I’m general or with these paints?
@@MediocreHobbies More as a general Idea, as I think, Kimera is more sth for Fantasy than SciFi, but it's completely up to you. I'm about to start a (new) drukhari and/or gsc force and very interested in alternative painting shemes a la "look what I made with these guys" style. And as you said, you were leaving the tracks of gw paint style, you might come up with sth cool and outstanding, to paint my drukhari (as I really dont like their lackluster&boring default paint shemes). :)
@@quahodron2756 at I get you now. Has I honestly have plans to have playlists for every army. So I will get around to it. And since both those armies will feature in my upcoming narrative campaign they will be done. Thanks for the comment.
@@MediocreHobbies Thank you for you efforts. ;)
@@quahodron2756 anytime.
I do like the look of these paints, The chart to help mix them would be a huuuuge as well! I see people talking about the music, I don't mind it but maybe try some lofi :)
Hahaha yes the notes on the music have been taken lol.
@@MediocreHobbies but still loving the videos
@@SnowSmashin199 cheers dude.
The recent expansion set has an even better mixing booklet....
@@ArynCrinn I noticed that. Plan on getting it for mainly that reason lol
I wonder how they get "Magenta" using only one pigment. Magenta is not actually a colour, but the average of two colours (red and blue) and no green. The average should equal Green, but the green receptors in your eyes aren't being triggered, so your brain creates a new colour to compensate. This colour is magenta.
Do they explain how they accomplish this? Or is it just pink?
EDIT; to clarify, what this means is, in order to get Magenta, you need equal amounts of red and blue pigment to trick your eyes into seeing magenta.
That’s a very good question. And no I honestly have no idea how they pulled it off. seams above my pay grade lol. If you find out pleas let me know.
Their website says they use Quinacridone as the pigment for the Magenta.