I went to Army OSUT infantry basic at Fort Benning in November of 1986 and I was a little overweight 5’10 189 pounds. My first APFT PT test I scored 100 points on the push-ups 80 and 100 points 92 sit ups my Senior Drill Sergeant said “that’s impressive for fat body let’s see how you do on the 2 mile run.” I came in dead last in my platoon, 19:30 on the run, my Drill sergeant said “that’s what I thought fat boy, if you wanna graduate and earn your blue cord you’re gonna have to lose 25 pounds and knock 5 mins off that run.” We would be running platoon PT and my Senior DS would yell “get out here Pvt. Harvey” and he’d Indian run me around the platoon he really beat me up. He restricted what I could eat and right before we graduated we had company inspection with the class A’s that they issued at the reception center and I had lost 41 pounds, my uniform looked like a tent. My company commander pulled me out and said “this is what good training and motivation does” and he ordered my Drill sergeant to take me to the quartermaster and reissue everything. I went from a 34 inch waist to 28 inches and on my 2 mile run I went from over 19 and half mins to 13:06 on the 2 mile run. At the cord ceremony my Senior DS whispered to me that I had a lot of heart and he was proud of me. I felt 8 feet tall and I was so proud because I really felt like I accomplished something.
I’m the same height except I was 205, I had a bulked build and wasn’t super fat but the DS definitely didn’t like how I looked lmao. Dropped to 185 and got a 550 on the last ACFT, they still screwed with me sometimes which was odd because they left the actual fat bodies alone. They could’ve given up on them but who knows
@@gladiatorking2.0envoyofthe95 My Senior DS went to Airborne school with us after infantry training (there was 6 of us in my platoon that had an Airborne contracts) he was cool as hell once we were out of training. I went on a couple of years later and earned a Ranger tab and served in a Ranger battalion. I would have never made that training and been able to do what I did if it wasn’t for SSG Johnson.
I love how Mr. Jameson is a total realist. There’s a big difference between the Marine Corps and the Navy, but he’s not afraid to tell it like it is. He points out the fat bodies and it’s true, you want to be a good role model and make the recruits want to look like you. He said jaw line and shook his head lol
He points out the differences now. Back in the 80's when I went through, we didn't have fat chiefs or fat anything. I still remember Al Branch, our instructor. That brother was from SE DC, no nonsense, no bullshit fair-hardass. As were all of the instructors then. SPent more time getting mashed than actuall sailor training. Which was a great thing, it carried all of us into the fleet successfully.
@@sw417 I agree 100%. I went to Marine Corps Boot Camp in September 1995 when things were still real enough. There wasn’t one time you thought you could get away with something with those are the eyes, they were all monsters and ready for anything at any moment. No question about it
Navy's first strike, that valley girl. second strike why is everybody seems to be about 30/50 lbs overweight? Do they use the extra weight as a flotation device?
Everybody is overweight because we are the fattest country. So would make sense this would eventually catchup in the military. As unfortunate as it is, if they didn’t join. Imagine how much worse recruiting numbers would be if they didn’t make concessions there.
My DI taught me some real life lessons. He led by example. He was trim and impeccable in uniform. He told us to never be a slacker about our boots and hair etc.... He said to have pride in yourself and not to be like most people once they got out of boot camp. He said having pride in yourself helps in every aspect of life. You should NEVER have to be told to groom yourself or shine your boots. This was at Lackland AFB, San Antonio Texas. His name was SSGT Kinne of flight 175 in August of 1979. I just turned 60 and still remember those words a 17 year old needed to hear. I don't think those dough boys/gals would have made that kind of impression is my point. Leaders have to lead by example.... period. That "intensive pt" they are showing on that video looked easier than what we did every day.
Lackland was like that in 1975 as well. I got out in early September of 1979. We grew up riding bikes after school in the 60's and 70's. These damn VG's are messing up this country.
@@neilmurray6943the video games are just an escape people use. the real issues lie deeper and it would help more if some of your generation would at least recognize you're part of the problem. and I'm not saying that to be a dick. but they didn't raise themselves...
I did Navy bootcamp in 1972 and have to say I wasn't all that impressed with it even at the time. Spent more time learning how to correctly fold my laundry and pack my locker than I did in physical training. Of course, I was in pretty good shape going in, so didn't consider it the most physically challenging thing I've ever done.
Yep! Very correct! I went in in 1971. Did not fire any weapons. No hands on self defence/combat training. We experienced the tear gas room, marched on the grinder, learned to tie knots, talk on the sound powered telephone, fight compartment fires and, mainly, how to fold clothes.
@@RBS4658 The pre deployment peanut butter shot just about disabled my whole unit at Lejeune lol. I cant remember what the drug is called. But I knew it was gonna be a doosy when the Corpsman said hold on to the table and take all the wieght off your right side. The XO had his wife come to base and lead us in arobics the next morning behind the barracks lmao. To get us limbered up and stop limping lol.
Your comment about recruits on limited duty was ON POINT - There were a handful of recruits who literally missed half of boot camp and all the hardest activities because they were CONSTANTLY LD & SIQ & went to sick call every single day. I always thought it was completely unfair to the rest of us! And then you could see in certain people how the behavior really stuck and transferred into the fleet with some people.
Yeah, we had a guy in our flight at Air Force basic 20 years ago that was *constantly* on some sort of appointment, and was constantly stealing anything he "borrowed." I'm pretty sure he washed out in tech school, because I never saw his name in the email system once I got on the ops side. Total dirtbag.
@@navydad8916 They did complete what they missed. There are different kinds of LD, some slightly longer or that makes it so you do less stuff. So, most times they can still graduate. Or if they graduated then they didn't get sent to the fleet. It never says it in any of the videos but if you are sick multiple times in bootcamp or injure yourself to needing a waiver to continue staying in the military then there's a chance you'll be put in THU (Temporary Holding Unit) and stay in great lakes not as a recruit but not quite a sailor until you get cleared to leave. But in some cases, they manage to complete everything on time before the big test at the end and can graduate with their division. Only complete dirt bags get a taste of their own medicine if they keep trying to get out of doing work.
My youngest brother is in the Navy, he made Chief 2 years ago, he has been telling me how bad this has gotten, most young recruits have attitudes and won't work, constantly requesting LD, missing ships movements, failing quals.....
😩 the part I don't understand is how the navy allows men and women to get away with "medical" waivers that allow sailor's to not take the physical fitness test and still receive reenlistment and promotion. I understand the navy is desperate for bodies but at what point is it worth all of this?
It's a real issue, as an active duty sailor myself there's some real big issues goin on in the fleet and it's painfully obvious that there's no intention to fix them. As someone that joined during COVID and graduated right before some of the restrictions were lifted to allow a 10 week boot camp instead of the 6 that I went through, I wished I had had the longer iteration of boot. My division was beat daily and it was honestly great. I went into boot 168 at 6'2" and left roughly 180 and I could tell I had lost fat and gained a whole lot of muscle just from the amount of exercise I was doing and the food that I was eating was just enough to be my maintenance calories. It was honestly the best and worst three months of my life. (i had to quarantine before and halfway through, the first being mandatory the second one because someone in the rack next to me popped positive for the rona hence the 10 weeks total)
@@phased-arraych.9150 The Navy was getting fat back in the height of OIF/OEF and Afghanistan on ship duty. The vast majority of the Navy will never see direct combat. We used to joke that the Navy was the only service that went to war/deployment skinny and come back fat, especially the women. Apparently, the messes on those ships are really good. They have the Marines to do most of their dirty combat related grunt work.
Boot was one of the hardest/easiest things I ever done. Hard was leaving my pregnant wife and child back but easy just follow orders and you’ll be fine. Too many of the younger I met only cared over things that in the long run didn’t matter. My goal was to take care of my already established family.
My son has the same situation. 2 kids one due in September. He does Battle stations tonight actually. I pray his division, which consists of these young spoiled kids, get it together 🤦 He's worked hard to succeed
I remember when high school students would sign up for the army or the Marine corps and the summer prior to graduation they would start doing minimal basic training, when they went to basic training these kids were saying that they were doing things they never thought they were capable of doing and they would come back to the high school and see their teachers in uniform and they were so proud of themselves.
That's called meps/being a Poolee. My then gf did basic training her junior year of highschool. Came back, did senior year with JROTC then at graduation day she shipped off to her MOS school. I went to the receuiter like mid September and was shipped off by November 1st.
@@Seasniffer1969 MEPS is the entry system to be qualified to enlist and where you sign your contract. She did split ops training. Which is what you have to do when 17 years old.
Break their hearts here to Keep them Alive Later. The Navy Runs On high Stress. Keeps men alive. Work deck or engine room. How about a Refuel. No games at Sea.
I suffered through Navy boot camp in the 60s, back when the SEALs were UDT. It was 12 weeks long, and there is NOTHING about it that I thought was fun. Lack of sleep, excess physical activity, and tons of class work all made for an unreal experience. But, when I made it through, my first thoughts were, EVERYONE should have to go through this. And, I made it through this, I can do ANYTHING. It sure takes the Mama out of Mama's boys.
My GPA was in the navy late 60a to early 70s and said he came out of boot camp in the best shape of his life, but left the navy in the worst shape. He was some kind of radar operator on a nuclear destroyer of the coast of Vietnam. Lots of sitting in front of a screen before everyone's job involved that.
Over thirty years ago in Washington, we were taking a break in a Georgetown bar. I was sitting with an Army and a Marine officer. They were becoming intelligence officers and enrolled at Georgetown for graduate work. These guys had some slight interservice rivalry but could agree on one thing. The Army officer turned to the Marine officer and said: "Look at those naval officers. Ain't they disgusting?" The object of their contempt had a belly only slightly over his belt.
Back 84 when i went through boot camp at PI we started out with about 78 recruits in receiving we only had one chubby guy 3 months later we graduated with 38 Marines and he was one of them.
@@JamesonsTravels WTF> tropical whites with piping?, what happened to original seafarer and dixie cup?, wearing camouflage for what?, when did E-6 start wearing khakis as a company commander it's supposed to be salt and peppers or cracker jacks?, no bench marks for standard recruit to attain, split tails and swinging di_ _s doing PT together. Only Chiefs and Officers wore khakis, females below E-7 should wear salt and peppers,, never seen crow insignia on any khaki either, it's either officer insignias or chiefs anchors,, etc..etc.. I better start learning Mandarin, Russian and Fosi Koosi... . BM2 (SW) CSAR
@@JamesonsTravels As a young private, I was so high-speed (joking) they put me in the barracks room above the battalion SGMs office. This was a battalion ranger that cut his teeth in the 80s and lost guys in Granada. One day I found myself standing in his office when he told me a story about how the old timers when he joined would tell him how easy he had it and how he would never measure up. I tend to think we have been letting the standards drop since ar least since Vietnam. The truth is, we will have a reality check sooner or later at which time they will make drastic changes that may seem unreasonable now.
Former Marine here, 97-01. In boot camp, light duty was HIGHLY frowned upon. We had a recruit on light duty for over a week, never got held back. PCP, or pork chop platoon, overweight people, you had a very limited time to lose the weight, or you were held back, and after 2 times, you were out. Same as rifle range if you didn't qualify.
Luckily nobody in my platoon tried to sneak food back to our barracks when I was in boot camp. One person did try to sneak ice cream inside a glass of milk when we were in the rifle range chow hall. They caught him, of course made us all stop eating, throw our food away, and go straight out to the nearest pit where we PT'd for about an hour. That night, none of us were allowed to shower during drill instructor square away time. And all had to go to bed dirty and spend the whole next day dirty as well. Needless to say, the guy who tried to sneak ice cream was very unpopular from there on.
@@JamesonsTravels yeah, that night they punished us all but for the next week or so they had him on the Quarterdeck just about every chance they got to put him there. They rarely touched us physically, but they were extremely creative with other ways to punish us. I have several examples, but my favorite is the time they made me stand in front of a mirror for about 25 minutes pointing to myself and pointing to my reflection repeating the phrase "I'm not stupid you're stupid!" over and over again. They made me sound it off so it echoed throughout the entire Squad bay. LOL I can laugh about it now, but back then I did not think it was very funny.
I'm against woman in the Army, at least in Operative units. I had females in my Unit that were tough as nails but...none of them ever was able to do a march with a 80+ Pounds backpack. They can't also carry a wounded squadmate of 200 pounds on their shoulders.... can't understand why now we deny the evidence.
Had been stockpiling peanut butter packets for weeks before the crucible to randomly give to others when they needed a boost in morale. Stocked up about 2-3 lbs of packets in the top pouch of my ilbe pack and DI's found them the night before. I got my face PT'd off that morning leading up to the crucible, but was nice after finally getting the EGA. DI said it was a good intentioned move, but he didn't regret making me suffer in the pit for it. Rah
At least it wasnt from the MRE's...that MRE peanut butter will stop you up worse than your girls hair in the shower drain. Depending on the meal and your digestive system, an MRE is either a Meal Ready to Exit or a Meal Refusing to Exit
you are a legend sir... I had a guy like you in boot camp... I was on a super restrictive diet for the first three weeks... "You" were the guy who hooked me up with a half a peanut butter sandwich... someone like you practically saved my enlistment, it was what I needed in that moment to make it through the day, cause I was on the edge. I have no idea if the DI's knew or not... but he ended up being our Recruit Division Leader. Just a great guy, and knew when someone needed a boost, or a helping hand to cheer them on.
The fact my roommate at my 1st unit graduated navy basic training with borderline personality disorder, ODD, autism spectrum, schizophrenia and psychosis says a lot about Navy basic training
Ex-Aussie Navy here. During our swim tests, the instructors were around the pool with brooms that they would use to push people back by their foreheads if they tried to get out. Of course, there were safety swimmers there in case someone was really in trouble, but if you didn't pass your swim test, you were gone. 1990's though - so things are probably a little more 'caring' now.
I did Navy boot in 1980. They found out who couldn’t swim during the initial dive off the board. Yea, they joined the navy and some couldn’t swim. Then they tested us all together in the pool. We had to kick away from half drowning recruits so we wouldn’t also be dragged down.
Did a total of 5 years in the navy back in the 80's. I was overweight going in to boot-camp. The company commanders put me in the "fat boy camp". Me and three or four other guys were called to step forward and the company commanders told the other recruits that they had permission to take food from our plates during chow.... and they did. I was always hungry. We had to do a lot of "Indoor Tennis" (IT - aka, "Intensive Training"). This food robbery thing stopped after a few weeks though. I can't remember how much weight I lost, but I lost a lot. I came out of boot feeling like a badass. To this day I still eat very quickly.... before anybody can steal my food.
Lot of ex-military does that. Even if you didn't actually have food stolen off your plate you learned to eat what you can when you can. You never know when some shitbird in your unit decides to do something stupid during chow and they make everyone stop eating because of it. Or any number of things that could happen that could curtail you chow time or remove it completely.
I went into bootcamp at 17 - right out of high school. It was the early 80's... I was 168 on a 5'8" frame and pretty fit. Came out 13 weeks later at 162... same height, of course... but much leaner and with more muscle mass. Felt great! I'm a retired Chief now and I learned later on that each recruit had about a 4,200 calorie daily allowance.... plus or minus, of course depending on how fast you ate but it was plenty. And it was good chow! Never took chow out of the chow hall... didn't need to and definitely didn't want the trouble if caught anyway! We had no fat bodies at all.... there were strict guidelines for height/weight and fitness to even qualify to enter bootcamp. More than 40 years later - I'm at 172... still 5'8" though shrinkage may be coming 🤣🤣🤣 Did the pt entrance requirement test for boots in 2022 with an old Navy friend of mine recently - kind of an "old man" challenge - we both still met the requirements for entry for men aged under 24. Not bad for old farts... though I have to admit that my endurance isn't what it used to be and I definitely feel some pains that I didn't back then the next day or two. Whenever I see fat serving military folk - I shake my head in disdain! Seriously... y'all can do better!
@@edwardvincent623 Wow! 120 lbs at 5'8" is quite small! Bootcamp did good things for you! At 26 lbs heavier you would have been a lean and mean machine coming out the other end of the pipeline! 👍
I seen pictures of my dad before the Army (early 1990s) and after. He was 5 something and lean. During the Army he definitely put on muscle mass. My brother was lean as well, probably leaner than my dad at 17/18 and after Marine boot camp, he became one super lean moose of a man!
@@edwardvincent623 Right? We had animals and a few acres in the sticks. Sure, their was a family video game console and my brother bought his own, however we were often outside. Even at freinds, we'd be doing outside chores!
Seabee in the Navy here. Went through boot camp in 2019 just before Covid. At that time and 3 years later, it has always and still is "frowned upon" to be LD or SIQ. Take care of yourselves, recruits, but pay your dues. That's all I'll say.
Also, we had one big ass kid sneak just the peanut butter cups back to the berthing. He was the Head PO and hid them in the paper towel dispenser. One day, by chance, our UT1 happened to find one inspecting the head and we got ****ed for about an hour. We are in a new, pathetic time in the Navy, I agree, but some of our divisions still played by FMJ rules.
Agree, I was in boot in 1991, rolled my ankle and had to go on LD....worst 2 weeks of my training, I busted my ass and faked I was 100% to get back into my original company, and most were mad at me when I made it back in, thinking I had been gun decking .
Yea I’m a Seabee too my bootcamp div was all male it was alright all I went through quarantine the general vibe was war with china so we were motivated. We got some fat bodies in battalion idk how they manage it with how much we would sweat on a daily basis on deployment.
As a Seabee I’m sure that when you got to your first duty station you were told to forget most of what you learned in boot camp because this is the way WE do things.
In my Navy boot camp SEALs were the swim instructors. The recruits who failed the test were sent separately for extra training sessions to learn how to swim.
Went into the Navy in 1971 and came off the Farm so the physical Fitness was not that bad, was up at 5:00 am every day working livestock, and knocking off work at 2200 so the hours were actually less stressful. The biggest thing for me was getting into that TEAMWORK mindset. But I was what you would say Excellent Physical Condition before I went into bootcamp, there were some muscle groups that I didn't commonly use so that was about it. Our CC ran with us the day we arrived, he was shocked that I was one of the 2 that could keep up with him from day one. By the time we graduated the weakest guy could do the 3 mile run, even though it was supposed to be 1.5 mile run, they were proud that they did the 3 mile run in exactly double their 1.5 mile run times. You don't know what you can do ktill you are pressed to do so. Have lived by the motto for decades "Know your limitations then IGNORE THEM".
I was in Navy Bootcamp back in 2015. I’m about 5 ft 9 and I weighed about 160 lbs at the time. I had as a slimmer muscular build from running track. We weighed in before graduation and I was 136 lbs. My parents actually walked passed me without recognizing me at graduation. Any little bit of muscle I had, I lost all of in bootcamp. The PT simply was not challenging enough.
Same, I could do 20ish pull-ups and when I graduated I could barely do 5. It’s ridiculous how easy it was, the running was always the best part cause I could go as fast as I wanted but couldn’t run as long as I like. They need to boost the exercise requirements. Push-ups, planks, and 1.5 mile run isn’t enough.
So the pt was so easy that you lost muscle? Lol in army basic it was the opposite, me and most other guys who came in with a decent amount of muscle lost a lot of it by the end but it was because we were constantly on the go and just burned through it
Navy boot camp 1987, Orlando FL. I think I weighed 140 going in and 170 on the way out (not fat gain). I remember having to do IT (intensive training) once. It sucked because my muscles just quit working (leg lifts) I got yelled even more :) My niece just went through Army boot at Fort Sill and it sounds like they let her slide a bit but the heat there was brutal plus there's the military wide recruiting shortage going on, so...
My dad was in the Coast Guard Vietnam era he was a really strong swimmer being a surfer he’s whole life but hated running. Anyway he said to me when I was a kid “you’d be surprised what you can do when someone is running behind you with a bayonet pointed at your ass,” I said yeah but he wouldn’t have stabbed you with it and his answer was “he sure as hell would have!!” 😆
I was a kid with not much experience outside "the nest" when I joined. It was a culture shock and certainly left me emotionally rattled, especially when I was getting screamed at my strangers every day for things I didn't know I was doing wrong. But I was an athletic kid, so certainly nothing was ever challenging on a physical level in bootcamp. It was simply the quick development of emotional maturity that RTC was TRYING to accomplish with each recruit. Navy life isn't about being a PT stud afterall. There's certainly some embarrassment with how fat the force has gotten, but I think some people have the wrong expectation when they compare Navy Boot to Army or the Marine Corps. I would say for the most part, not much of this Navy Boot video comes off as fake or even played out. The first Chief I ever saw was in my face for an hour about ANYTHING I was doing hahahaha. That new sailor we see really seems like she's gonna be a problem child for her first LPO, and probably gonna be Ad-Sep'd before her 4 years are even through.
My fkin ass couldn't wait to get into the military - my parents weren't there so I loved my time in the Army. Just stumbled across these videos and i gotta say - I love your cool, calm, and collected commentary. I was active 08-13, deployed to Kandahar for OEF 10-11. Being a JFO attached to a line company ended up being exactly where I needed to be. I think the fact I had to embrace that suck a little earlier than those around me helped me a lot. OEF 10-11 was pretty rough - we lost 62 people as part of our task force.
We had a guy who would sneak cookies back to his bunk. One time RDCs did a gear check and had us turn our bags upside down on the toe line. All his gear came out first then that cookie dropped on top like a cherry on ice cream. Absolutely hilarious, it was like a movie. Guy got rolled back two weeks
Old Navy here, great video with Jameson's comments, shows people what they are getting into. Agree that DIs have to be in good shape themselves before they start yelling at the Fat Boys and Girls. Bootcamp helped me appreciate the importance of staying in good physical shape, and this has helped me throughout my life, now 72 and still in good shape without a barrel gut!
Im in the Navy now and the lack of discipline and getting people out effects the schools I'm in. Luckily, I'm a live ashore but the amount of drama and relationships and people acting like they're out in the streets piss me off. I joined thinking there would be like minded people here, but they act like middle schoolers. Some instructors have been caught with students and they just get rank taken. Boot camp was way too easy for me, and it was boring as hell
Same with me I went to hospital corps school the military did not get reel for me until I went to field medical corps school at Camp Pendleton Ca. spent 8 more years with the USMC SEMPER FI My brothers !
@@timpoling8634 lmao I can tell. Listen. In the fleet, we act like normal everyday people. 17-24 year olds are all the same, military/college/high school etc. I know you don't get this yet because you're new, but don't be surprised when you get to the fleet when no one marches to work in the morning or talks like a normal person to Chief or Divo
@mrsensable it is distruction from within. All top positions. In the government, military, and private industry. Require a college degree. Sadly, the degree is secondary to the libral indoctrination. This has polluted the country from within. Removed common sense and integrity from the leadership.
Always has been. What happened to protecting this country from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC??! You were taking orders from the exact pedophiles back in your day that we have a problem with today. The enemy has been behind the gates barking orders at ya’ll since 1913.
Do you know this reminds me of a sopranos the old-school Way (think Phil leotardo ) things are equivalent to the way the old military was now we have this pigmy thing
It’s really funny seeing this as someone that went through marines boot camp in 2015. They are definitely showing a pumped up version for this video, but the marine one you did was watered down in comparison. I wouldn’t be surprised if the old marine insider video is now the standard in marine boot camp. Man how quickly things change.
When I was at MEPS a few months ago, the Marines had 2 and a half lines outside of their liaison office. Coast guard wasn't even there (may be a different place? Not sure, it was odd), Navy had a few, Army a few, Air Force a few. But it was a obvious number difference.
@@hockey66191 that could be from the prestige of earning the title. We had a 10 army guys, 3 navy, and like 2 Air Force at the MEP. There was 5 of us from my DEP there that day. I guess recruiting numbers for us is still good. I just was told by one of my boots in 2020 before I got out that they did change boot camp to now have a two week marine week after the crucible and earning your EGA. Happy to see that in your area it was still pulling some numbers.
Definitely not the same boot camp I went through at RTC San Diego back in 1981. On a side note, we shared a fence with MCRD (Marine boot camp) and on day one our Company Commander said that if we didn’t like boot camp and decided to run don’t go over that fence because if the Marines catch you they keep you.
Went to Great Lakes in December 2004 (division 093). Our three instructors were in shape to a high degree. Good mix between individual building and team building. Nobody was safe from a beating. Segregated units so you rarely saw a female peer. Great mix of people from all over USA, some from abroad. Bad apples were kicked out, leading to a solid division at the end ready to transition to next duty station with humility and respect.
I heard the pacer test and I immediately thought about the pt we would be graded on in middle school through high school, I didn't expect it to actually be THAT pacer. That's actually mind boggling to me that they are doing conditioning we had in middle school through high school.
They gave us ice cream on the 4th of July. One guy snuck 3 strawberry ice creams from the chow hall. He ate them all quick and ended up puking all over the squad bay.
I'm at 20 years of active duty in the Army and went to basic not long after 9/11. I went to sick call one time after the DS saw my socks soaked in blood and had my toenails surgically removed. I declined a profile because if I didn't complete the final field problem that week (including a 20+ mile hump) I'd have to restart that 3 week phase over again. I did it with no big toenails because I wanted out of there. Sick bay commandos had nobody discouraging them but they paid a price for malingering, 3-5 extra weeks of boot camp. One guy completed basic with cracked ribs.
fuckin EXACTLY. i never understood why some kids would go on profile if they werent hurt, or fake suicidal ideations. youre just gonna end up sitting there for weeks and weeks after your original company graduated. and i didnt want one more SECOND of FLW in the winter.
Did the same thing in Navy "A" school. Got deathly ill. Skin was pale and I had never been so sick in my entire life. Lasted about 3 weeks. But had I went SIQ I would've gotten held back for 2 more months. For me personally that was not an option.
I went to WOCS at Ft. Rucker ten years ago in the summer and I finished the course with a heat injury. My entire class got sick and the cadre forced us all to take two days bedrest. We all wanted to graduate, worked hard just to get there and had no desire to fail or wash back. If anyone went to medical then you *knew* it was serious. Some people really have no shame being dead weight and nothing will change them.
My seniors in the USMC always said my group had it easy and that we had it so much easier than they did. I believe it. My time was not easy, but it was not "full metal jacket" level I was expecting. I say bring back the ability of the DIs to hit recruits. Let us know we can take a hit and keep going. War is hell. Training should do its best to teach you how to survive that hell.
I did four years active duty, three IRR and just got out of a six year reserve stint. Boot camp was easy when I went in 2009 and I was in decent shape. Others, not as much, but I can say that all of our RDCs were physical specimens, and a solid example of the types of Sailors we should aspire to be. During my entire time in Great Lakes, I never saw a chief as portly as those in this video. I fear this slide will continue. After all, the Navy suspended the Physical Fitness Assessment for TWO YEARS due to COVID and many did not work out on their own. Many failed the weigh ins and some failed the exercises which are not hard. The culture of being a hard@$$ needs to make a comeback NOW.
June 2010 for me, 8yrs active, but similar experience. My Chief at RDC was... well.. if you know, you know. But the other two RDC's a LS2 and AO1 were both physical specimens in their own right. LS2 was lean and would smoke us all during runs, and AO2 was just built like an absolute tank.
I’m currently in the process to get to the weight requirements and the army is being very consistent and keeping me accountable with my weigh ins. I’m struggling to understand how these navy recruits got in overweight…
Just graduated on the 24th of March, and to be clear, my RDC's were tough on us. We were a 900 Division, so we had extra time in bootcamp, our experience was 12 weeks long compared to the rest. My Chief went out of his way to ASMO LD's and SIQ's, and he did a great job of weeding out those who put no effort in. Whenever we did ITE, which was almost everyday, sometimes twice a day or when we first wake up, we'd get beat for over an hour and a half. People were passing out, bleeding, and collapsing. Maybe it was just my division, but it wasn't a cake walk. People like that sailor would've been ASMO'D if she had my RDC's. Some people cheat the system, some try their best and get the recognition.
They kept your 900 div for four extra weeks? We only did 8 weeks and didn’t do nearly enough PT (almost 1/4 the division failed the final PFT). Were you the ceremonial 900 or band geeks?
Leadership in all branches are now SOFT and everything is relative.. You were given participation trophies in school so (of course) you think think your RDC's were tough... They are not and either are you. Real world will prove my point. America's Military has no RESPECT and nor should they. You have GIRLS training men.. Soft!
That's good to hear shipmate. Us older vets want you new sailors to have the best and hardest training to prepare you for the challenges in fleet. We want people to come home as well. Also when you find yourself swapping stories with other sailors, we want you to experience that smirk we have because we can all relate to our training days lol. Take care out there.
I went to Great Lakes Jan22 and was the first division to have 10 week boot camp. One of the first things your RDCs will say is Boot Camp is what you make it. I lived a unhealthy lifestyle and wasn’t in shape when I went. I figured I would enjoy myself before I went because when I went it would be game on. You have to have the right mindset going in, that’s your foundation. If you don’t believe in yourself and they will test you, then some recruits will try and go LD or SIQ. There are exceptions of course like if you need your wisdom teeth removed you will get a some time SIQ. Then your right back at it. Point is that everybody is different and when you are there you learn to work as one and bring what you have to offer to make sure we all succeed because One Team One Fight. We had some recruits who were aiming to be special forces who could run a mile and a half in less then 8mins. They would hold them selfs back to do a 10 min run and would tell our division if you fall behind me then you failed the run. Which was for the youngest group of recruits standards. There is not many people if any at all who could pass boot camp by them self. You need help; everyone does, it’s a team. That’s just my experience.
Lol one team on fight. I don't think the navy teaches that at all. Try one person fucks up you all are fucked. One person succeeds because of your work, well still get fucked while they get rewarded.
I did Navy bootcamp in 2001. It got me prepared for what was to come. I never stepped foot on a ship in 6 years of service. I was in a all male division in bootcamp. Also apart of a group that was going into more elite training schools. I was supposed to be a Aviation warfare specialist/ Rescue Swimmer. So I was given the opportunity to go and challenge myself further by training with the guys going into similar fields of work. Rescue Swimmer school didn't work out due to injury. So had to reclass and pick a new job. I chose Corpsman. I then went on to be a FMF Corpsman. Did my last duty station in Great Lakes working as a EMT for bootcamp and all the surrounding base training areas. I got to see the Uss Cole battlestations area that Disney built. So I could be familiar with to extract any possible real time emergencies. I enjoy watching your videos.
As a former Sailor I find this vid. to be pitiful!! Fat company commanders for a start! I'm speechless!! How WUSSIFIED can they get!! We were able to kick-ass and take names after boot back in 81!! I know you can relate Jameson. SAD!!
I went through Amry BCT 2 years ago now and I prepped for this to be the most difficult thing I would ever do in my life and by the end of it, I walked away feeling like I was robbed of a proper BCT experience. At no point was I physically challenged by the things we did, and would end up working out on my own time just to get a proper soreness in my body. The lack of sleep and fire guard was probably the most difficult since I get grumpy without sleep and didn't have ciggs to help.
Well buddy, you still got RASP, SFAS, Special Selections, and Ranger School. I see so many people whine BCT wasn't hard and then they peak at Airborne at best.
@@JamesonsTravels Im shipping to navy boot camp in July of next year and I"m hoping it ends up being more challenging than everything I've heard so far. Ill just have to hold out hope for a tough RDC or something
My 1965 Navy boot camp experience wasn’t too far from Gunny Earmy in Full Metal Jacket. It’s sad to see overweight DIs as well as recruits who have it a lot easier than we did. How are they going to handle going into combat? I’m more than sad to see this b/c many of the things I learned in recruit training have guided me throughout my 70 + years on earth.
Light Duty in boot camp? “Dude’s got a boiler”! WTF? Is this McHale’s Navy? All kidding aside, everyone has a role. Running a ship is a different world from being a snake eating knuckle dragger. As a US Army veteran, I thank all freshly minted graduates from all the services, and pray for their success and safety in their new military roles. 🇺🇸
@@jsanto10021982 10 weeks of hell? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha The absolute HARDEST thing to do in Navy boot camp is not fall asleep in class. That's it. If you show up in half-decent shape, none of the PR tests are difficult at all. Only 1 week is "hell week" and it's only that because most of the people have to work in the galley. Hint: If you want to skate that week, make sure you're a squad leader or in some other recruit leadership position. Nothing "hellish" about it. Not like they're trying to convince sailors to run across open fields into machinegun fire. LOL
@@johnpauljones9310 We had a 19 year old 6' tall Inuit girl (I know) at work who went to Great Lakes, when she came back I saw absolutely Zero difference in her Body Structure, whatever she did there wasn't Boot of any description. I went through Army boot in 1981, 11 Bravo. She couldn't do the Heavy Labor at work I did and I am 60 years old and have labored all my life, she couldn't do it when she got back either, hurt her foot the first week she got back, never returned. Boot lol.
I can honestly say this was the first time I have ever heard the expression "soft as a squiggly Bear's belly." I have to admit that one made me laugh, JT!
Navy boot camp back in 2013. Recruiters never organized PT for the Future sailors. A few of us took the initiative to workout. They just didn’t want us to hike. We were told you have to run and do push-ups and sit ups at the time. We went in with a decent level of knowledge and physical fitness. Also being in integrated division, the males can work together a lot better than the females.
I went to Army Bootcamp in 1984 and enjoyed it. There were so many funny events and things that the Drill Sergeant said, that just made you laugh inside. I would never have dared to laugh out loud or even silently without facing the wrath others were facing. To the Chow Hall, we had to run (about a quarter of a mile) to the entrance, do 20 push-ups (10, recover and then another 10) before being allowed to enter. We were allowed 10 minutes inside (the faster you ate, the more you were able to eat.) We had to run back to the barracks afterward. There were so many who vomited along the way, but after a few days, it got better for everyone No one ever thought of sneaking any food back to the barracks. It was never a thought as the punishment for everyone would have been too great. PT was torture, but rewarding. Everyone got fit and were proud. Our DI was an infantry Vietnam Vet with a very large fruit salad. Even when we graduated Boot Camp he called off the name, threw the certificate on the floor, and each one of us had to crawl to pick it up. If we were not fast enough we had to do sets of push-ups before being allowed to crawl back to where we had been standing. Then in 1986 I joined the Air Force and unfortunately, even though I was prior service, I had to do the Air Force Boot Camp as well (We even had two prior marines with us) This was a short time in the military where this was enforced. Anyway, AF basic was so easy compared to that of the Army. We were even allowed to go into town on the weekends and have 30 minutes to eat. (And we walked to the Chow Hall!) It makes me sad to see these videos today. It was an accomplishment to finish boot Camp and to remember the days of shaking muscles as you were finally allowed to sleep. Everyone was proud and I do not think there is any vet from that era, or any time before, who doesn't have fond thoughts of that experience.
When i was in the Canadian army, you'd get hurt, you stop training. You go to sick bay but report every day for parade. Then you start over or join a different platoon where you left off. There was no passing the basic if you were not fit to fight.
I heard from more than one sailor that Australian bubbleheads constantly embarrassed their American counterparts. Maybe we need Australian sailors training ours.
Navy Boot Camp teaches you attention to detail and how to live on a ship. It is not particularly physically challenging unless your RDC loves blue cards. It’s honestly not even mentally challenging unless you can’t handle being away from your phone.
My Dad was in USMC near the end of Korean War, they had to climb a 40' ladder (with full pack, except for rifle), jump off a platform into water (if you hesitated, the next guy 'helped' you off), and swim to the pool deck. If you had trouble swimming, guys with long poles 'helped' you by beating you until you started swimming.
Alright so, I was in the Navy about 14 years ago and recently transitioned to the Army as an NCO, but had to go through basic. This is basically what I took away: Modern basic training is driven by retention. Everyone who entered, graduated, unless they specifically insisted on going home. From the worst dirt bag, to the most motivated highspeed trainee, everyone graduated and no one was held back. The drill sergeants could not punish people individually. They were almost completely neutered in what they could actually do to correct people who were selfish and lazy. Honestly, it was pathetic and was extremely demotivating. But this is the modern military, which seems to be run more like an idiocrcy rather than a meritocracy. I, along with any of the other prior service trainees, were prevented from holding any leadership roles. These roles were given to the least motivated people in the company.
I feel like everyone's Basic Training experience is completely different. I remember at Fort Sill the company next to ours started about 5 weeks after we did, and they were trying a newer, gentler phase with that class, where no one got smoked or yelled at, and I remember them talking to us to ask what we did to mess up so bad since they saw us getting smoked all the time and that never happened to them despite them being on week 1 and us being ready to graduate.
People don't realize the experience is planned. My platoon had a 50/50 approach where we got smoked like everyone else but they tried to give us more of a cerebral approach at times to correct ourselves. The platoon downstairs was tortured and terrorized all the time the whole time. We performed, all around, better than the other platoons in the company. Come to find out, in the previous cycle our platoon was the one with the overbearing DSs and now they were supposed to switch it up. Just like the DSs have different roles...there's the dad, the chill one (until you screw), and the crazy one.
When I was going through U.S. Army Drill Sergeant training at Fort Benning back in 1987 one of the people had been prior service Navy. I asked him the difference between Navy and Army basic and he said that in the Army if the training is less than 5 miles away you walk, in the Navy if it's over 5 blocks away you take a bus.
Almost 40 years ago, I literally missed BRM week, in the hospital with pneumonia. Got out of the hospital on Friday morning, spent way too long on the bus getting back to the company around 1100 hours. The 1SG took me to the arms room to get my M16 from the SP4 assistant armorer, who had been my platoon's Drill CPL (it was an experimental thing back then) before he got busted for "helping us" have the cleanest rifles ever by instructing us on how to disassemble the lowers for cleaning. The 1SG then ran me out to the range where the SDS, who was my platoon's DS when we started, gave me 6 rounds to zero while everyone else was getting their grub on. Qual'd Expert on the lanes with my company after being gone since the previous Saturday. Nearly got my ear blown out by an artillery simulator later on the night infiltration at the end of the razor wire lane with the tracers flying overhead. Didn't even go to sick call over that on, and have enjoyed a loss of hearing and tinnitus in my right ear ever since. That one is on me worrying too much about recycling if I missed any more time. However, I did not recycle, and in fact made Soldier of the Cycle and picked up my first stripe at graduation. Fun times. My story should illustrate that it has always been a shitshow, and results, individual or Army wide, depend on your own motivations, and whether the good NCOs outnumber the bad.
Graduated bootcamp in 2021, one of the last 8 week divisions. Throughout bootcamp, you get opportunities to give feedback about what you think about bootcamp. We agreed it should've been extended to 10 weeks because we wanted more time on weapons training. I also went when Covid was still a big deal so we had to wear masks during our ITE sessions which was annoying. I'm glad that these guys are going to get more in depth training now
Ive got a few complaints as a Marine who just retired about 6 months ago. But a big one for me as a prior infantry man is when we are in the rear it’s constant 2000 and beyond nights. They preach family time but could honestly careless. If the task are complete there is still no going home before 1630 even after doing month long training op’s.
My son is a Petty Officer 1st class in the navy and is a corpsman. Currently teaching at the corpsman school in San Antonio. He went to Afghanistan with the Marines. Before he could go to Afghanistan he had to go through a mini Marine boot camp. He said the Navy had it easy compared to the Marines.
Ahhh….: devil docs. We look after and take care of them boys like their our own blood brothers. Every Marine no matter rank, unit or years they served will tell you the same thing. No one fucks with Doc !!
I graduated USMCRD San Diego in 1997. We had one man go on light duty because he broke his ankle on the last Crucible obstacle. It was a typical training O course where he climbed the rope at the end, slapped the wood at the top, then slipped and fell to the deck. On a broken ankle, this tough SOB still made it to the top of the reaper and received his EGA with the rest of us. He went on light duty when we got back to San Diego. Had he not made that final hump with us, he would have been dropped back in training.
The best Company Commanders were the crusty, salty first classes in dress blues and rolled over dixie cups, barking four letter words you knew and some you didn't, all with thick Navy slang. Their breath smelled of coffee mixed with last night's alcohol. They had at least 4 sea service ribbons but just one good conduct. While we marched, they strolled the deck. My CC's name was MM1 Love and he loved to wreck us. While we ate lunch, he took delight in destroying our well kept barracks, tipping over lockers, then watching us clean it. He made us put on our raincoats then run in place until the barracks ceiling would collect moisture from our sweat. The ceiling would drip on us. He called it a "rain dance". In the evenings, he'd sometimes tell us sea stories that we could hardly believe but couldn't wait to survive. He was proud of his Navy and he was gonna make sure we were, too. That was Navy Boot Camp.
Serving this great republic over 43 years ago, these baby's couldn't make a day the way it used to be. United States Army Veteran, and God damn proud of it.
@@jordanpoole3425 No it’s not and I know firsthand, I have a 19-year-old son in the Marine Corps. We compare what he went through in boot camp to what I went through in basic 35 yrs ago. It’s a lot easier nowadays.
@@jordanpoole3425 Paris Island, but ironically he’s stationed at Camp Pendleton and doing very well in avionics. Just recently got a Mast award for helping to retrieve and protect the tragic V 22 plane crash, which was part of his squadron. 🇺🇸👊🏼
I went to Marine Boot Camp in 1981.. I'm watching this and I'm thinking.. "so um.. what's the big deal??".. then I remember todays generation... I weep for our Country...
I tried that during AF BMT 2005, and I had MTI run up on me and yell, " This ain't a fucking grand slam at Denny's! Eat faster goddammit it!" Took me years to slow down when I ate.
My recruit division is in this video for the swim portion of it xD. Graduated a couple weeks ago from boot camp, and it is not difficult at all if you come prepared.
The hardest part for me was the running. You have to be at least a little bit of a runner. But quickly got my pace and breezed through it and also prt in the fleet. Carrier Navy Veteran ABH3 V1 Div Crash and Salvage
My granddaughter is in bootcamp, she WAS a a whopping 105 lbs, after 4 weeks she is 115, she was in JRROTC which helped her with some terminology and protocol.. It really helped her by not being over weight getting through the Pacer test.
I was stationed on MCBH for three years after being stationed at NAS Oceana for 7 years and I can definitely point out that there is a culture problem as far as PT when it comes down to the Navy vs the Marine Corps. You would see the MC squadrons up and out early everyday doing command PT or having workout equipment somewhere in or around their hangers. While the Navy has a culture of you know when the PRT is so you find time on your time off to go PT and make sure you’re ready for the PRT. You also see the culture difference between the shipboard Navy vs Naval Aviation. In a Navy squadron it’s so fast paced that you barely have time to even take a chow break and after your 10-16(if you’re one of the people who often stays late just to stay afloat with the workload) hour shift not including watches most sailors the last thing on their minds is going to the gym. While shipboard life because TF else you’re going to do when you get off of work the gym is always open and only a few frames down from where you work and sleep. Also when you’re on the ship unless you have a sucky rate you always have time to go to chow so you’re able to opt out of going to chow and instead spend that 40-60 minutes at the gym and swing by the galley grab some granola bars and eat that in your shop. Not saying the Navy should allow time during the shift just for PT but the Navy needs to find a way to change the culture of PT. If not that’s the product you’re going to get.
This is what Wokeness brings us. None of these folks command any respect with their appearance. We had it rougher in the police academy than these Navy recruits. This is sad. My father, a Vietnam era Marine just shakes his head at this. Great stuff sir!
You comparing marines to sailors? Sailors have never been demand to be physically tough or fit even in historical context sailors only need to do the job demamded which is in most cases akin to regular work. Navy needs bodys not Olympians
The PT in Navy bootcamp is designed to minimize injuries and help couch potatoes pass their PRT. The strong will generally get weaker, and the weak will generally get stronger.
One positive thing they could add for the Navy is to bring back the Red Line Brigs operated through the courtesy of the USMC. In my day just the threat of being sent to a Marine Brig, was enough to square a sailor away.
Joined the Canadian Army in 1980. Our "Boot Camp" (AKA Battle School) was 27 weeks long in those days. We started with 88 young men at the beginning and graduated 16. They dropped like flies. Injuries and sickness was expected to be sucked up and dealt with on your own. Otherwise it resulted in being held back (called "recourse"). With 8 weeks left before graduation I fractured my ankle badly. Finished and graduated by learning to limp-run and always landing on the other leg when jumping down from a wall or truck.
I overheard a conversation from a retention NCO. A soldier was offered almost 50,000 dollars for re-enlistment and denied the money. Tells you a lot right there. And that is unheard of for bonuses for re-ups
My dad was a Command Sergeant Major. He was super fit, was unit PTI and took on other sports outside of work. The military is meant to be about superior fitness to win the battle.
I went to Army OSUT infantry basic at Fort Benning in November of 1986 and I was a little overweight 5’10 189 pounds. My first APFT PT test I scored 100 points on the push-ups 80 and 100 points 92 sit ups my Senior Drill Sergeant said “that’s impressive for fat body let’s see how you do on the 2 mile run.” I came in dead last in my platoon, 19:30 on the run, my Drill sergeant said “that’s what I thought fat boy, if you wanna graduate and earn your blue cord you’re gonna have to lose 25 pounds and knock 5 mins off that run.”
We would be running platoon PT and my Senior DS would yell “get out here Pvt. Harvey” and he’d Indian run me around the platoon he really beat me up. He restricted what I could eat and right before we graduated we had company inspection with the class A’s that they issued at the reception center and I had lost 41 pounds, my uniform looked like a tent. My company commander pulled me out and said “this is what good training and motivation does” and he ordered my Drill sergeant to take me to the quartermaster and reissue everything. I went from a 34 inch waist to 28 inches and on my 2 mile run I went from over 19 and half mins to 13:06 on the 2 mile run. At the cord ceremony my Senior DS whispered to me that I had a lot of heart and he was proud of me. I felt 8 feet tall and I was so proud because I really felt like I accomplished something.
now that’s what a DS should be
That’s a good memory. You should be proud as not a lot of people share your drive! Thanks for the story.
I’m the same height except I was 205, I had a bulked build and wasn’t super fat but the DS definitely didn’t like how I looked lmao. Dropped to 185 and got a 550 on the last ACFT, they still screwed with me sometimes which was odd because they left the actual fat bodies alone. They could’ve given up on them but who knows
@@gladiatorking2.0envoyofthe95 My Senior DS went to Airborne school with us after infantry training (there was 6 of us in my platoon that had an Airborne contracts) he was cool as hell once we were out of training. I went on a couple of years later and earned a Ranger tab and served in a Ranger battalion. I would have never made that training and been able to do what I did if it wasn’t for SSG Johnson.
That's how it was back in the day hardcore
I love how Mr. Jameson is a total realist. There’s a big difference between the Marine Corps and the Navy, but he’s not afraid to tell it like it is. He points out the fat bodies and it’s true, you want to be a good role model and make the recruits want to look like you. He said jaw line and shook his head lol
He points out the differences now. Back in the 80's when I went through, we didn't have fat chiefs or fat anything. I still remember Al Branch, our instructor. That brother was from SE DC, no nonsense, no bullshit fair-hardass. As were all of the instructors then. SPent more time getting mashed than actuall sailor training. Which was a great thing, it carried all of us into the fleet successfully.
@@sw417 I agree 100%. I went to Marine Corps Boot Camp in September 1995 when things were still real enough. There wasn’t one time you thought you could get away with something with those are the eyes, they were all monsters and ready for anything at any moment. No question about it
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@@sw417 1990, we marched outside constantly in the heat. I think that was also a reason we lost weight.
I think the funny poster I seen was “real leader don’t curse” meanwhile every RDC I knew “$&$&& %#£€^% €¥%#} ^%*%*^.”
Navy's first strike, that valley girl. second strike why is everybody seems to be about 30/50 lbs overweight? Do they use the extra weight as a flotation device?
Everybody is overweight because we are the fattest country. So would make sense this would eventually catchup in the military. As unfortunate as it is, if they didn’t join. Imagine how much worse recruiting numbers would be if they didn’t make concessions there.
@@jeremiahjohnson7619 we’re the second fattest country now. Mexica passed us about five or six years ago.
The Navy is short on seals
Sheeeet low retention take what you can get these days 😂
I can confirm that they have to measure body fat of half the division
Weak standards lead to failure.
💯💯💯. And this video is 2 years old. It’s getting worse.
Weak standards normalize weakness. Weakness becomes a declining scale.
Navy boot camp !!what a joke !!!
They are trying to copy the army...trying to show that there camp is hard ( HAA HAA )
There DI.s are just mouth 😂😂😂😂
My DI taught me some real life lessons. He led by example. He was trim and impeccable in uniform. He told us to never be a slacker about our boots and hair etc.... He said to have pride in yourself and not to be like most people once they got out of boot camp. He said having pride in yourself helps in every aspect of life. You should NEVER have to be told to groom yourself or shine your boots. This was at Lackland AFB, San Antonio Texas. His name was SSGT Kinne of flight 175 in August of 1979. I just turned 60 and still remember those words a 17 year old needed to hear. I don't think those dough boys/gals would have made that kind of impression is my point. Leaders have to lead by example.... period. That "intensive pt" they are showing on that video looked easier than what we did every day.
Lackland was like that in 1975 as well. I got out in early September of 1979. We grew up riding bikes after school in the 60's and 70's. These damn VG's are messing up this country.
@@neilmurray6943 Dam Straight
it was a cake walk for my drills. every...freaking... morning after PRT we ran 5 miles, and then did our training of the day.
@@neilmurray6943the video games are just an escape people use. the real issues lie deeper and it would help more if some of your generation would at least recognize you're part of the problem. and I'm not saying that to be a dick. but they didn't raise themselves...
I did Navy bootcamp in 1972 and have to say I wasn't all that impressed with it even at the time. Spent more time learning how to correctly fold my laundry and pack my locker than I did in physical training. Of course, I was in pretty good shape going in, so didn't consider it the most physically challenging thing I've ever done.
Nothing has changed. Did boot camp in 2019, physically it was lackluster, and we were more challenged on attention to detail
I went through in '74, and ohh the ginder, especially after that penicillin shot.
Yep! Very correct! I went in in 1971. Did not fire any weapons. No hands on self defence/combat training. We experienced the tear gas room, marched on the grinder, learned to tie knots, talk on the sound powered telephone, fight compartment fires and, mainly, how to fold clothes.
@@RBS4658 The pre deployment peanut butter shot just about disabled my whole unit at Lejeune lol. I cant remember what the drug is called. But I knew it was gonna be a doosy when the Corpsman said hold on to the table and take all the wieght off your right side. The XO had his wife come to base and lead us in arobics the next morning behind the barracks lmao. To get us limbered up and stop limping lol.
@@ontheraggedy same for 2018 I actually fell out of shape after I graduated. Didnt even get big until I hit the fleet.
Your comment about recruits on limited duty was ON POINT - There were a handful of recruits who literally missed half of boot camp and all the hardest activities because they were CONSTANTLY LD & SIQ & went to sick call every single day. I always thought it was completely unfair to the rest of us! And then you could see in certain people how the behavior really stuck and transferred into the fleet with some people.
Did they not hold the LD and SIQ until recovery to where they can resume the training week they stopped at?
The question is why they did t have to complete what they missed ?
Completely wrong that those people got to graduate
Yeah, we had a guy in our flight at Air Force basic 20 years ago that was *constantly* on some sort of appointment, and was constantly stealing anything he "borrowed." I'm pretty sure he washed out in tech school, because I never saw his name in the email system once I got on the ops side. Total dirtbag.
@@navydad8916 They did complete what they missed. There are different kinds of LD, some slightly longer or that makes it so you do less stuff. So, most times they can still graduate. Or if they graduated then they didn't get sent to the fleet. It never says it in any of the videos but if you are sick multiple times in bootcamp or injure yourself to needing a waiver to continue staying in the military then there's a chance you'll be put in THU (Temporary Holding Unit) and stay in great lakes not as a recruit but not quite a sailor until you get cleared to leave. But in some cases, they manage to complete everything on time before the big test at the end and can graduate with their division. Only complete dirt bags get a taste of their own medicine if they keep trying to get out of doing work.
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My youngest brother is in the Navy, he made Chief 2 years ago, he has been telling me how bad this has gotten, most young recruits have attitudes and won't work, constantly requesting LD, missing ships movements, failing quals.....
😩 the part I don't understand is how the navy allows men and women to get away with "medical" waivers that allow sailor's to not take the physical fitness test and still receive reenlistment and promotion. I understand the navy is desperate for bodies but at what point is it worth all of this?
@@genericpinesol I guess all they are worried about is getting numbers and checking the diversity boxes....
It's a real issue, as an active duty sailor myself there's some real big issues goin on in the fleet and it's painfully obvious that there's no intention to fix them. As someone that joined during COVID and graduated right before some of the restrictions were lifted to allow a 10 week boot camp instead of the 6 that I went through, I wished I had had the longer iteration of boot. My division was beat daily and it was honestly great. I went into boot 168 at 6'2" and left roughly 180 and I could tell I had lost fat and gained a whole lot of muscle just from the amount of exercise I was doing and the food that I was eating was just enough to be my maintenance calories. It was honestly the best and worst three months of my life. (i had to quarantine before and halfway through, the first being mandatory the second one because someone in the rack next to me popped positive for the rona hence the 10 weeks total)
I can only imagine how well this Navy will perform in a real war with recruits like that.
@@phased-arraych.9150 The Navy was getting fat back in the height of OIF/OEF and Afghanistan on ship duty. The vast majority of the Navy will never see direct combat. We used to joke that the Navy was the only service that went to war/deployment skinny and come back fat, especially the women. Apparently, the messes on those ships are really good. They have the Marines to do most of their dirty combat related grunt work.
Boot was one of the hardest/easiest things I ever done. Hard was leaving my pregnant wife and child back but easy just follow orders and you’ll be fine. Too many of the younger I met only cared over things that in the long run didn’t matter. My goal was to take care of my already established family.
Good man your kids should be proud!
My son has the same situation. 2 kids one due in September. He does Battle stations tonight actually. I pray his division, which consists of these young spoiled kids, get it together 🤦 He's worked hard to succeed
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He passed Battle stations yall!🎉🎉🎉🎉 Graduation on September 16🎉🎉🎉🎉
I assume Navy basic training is similar to Air Force basic training, not super difficult you have to be pretty wimpy not to make it through.
I remember when high school students would sign up for the army or the Marine corps and the summer prior to graduation they would start doing minimal basic training, when they went to basic training these kids were saying that they were doing things they never thought they were capable of doing and they would come back to the high school and see their teachers in uniform and they were so proud of themselves.
Excellent Post!!!
That's called meps/being a Poolee. My then gf did basic training her junior year of highschool. Came back, did senior year with JROTC then at graduation day she shipped off to her MOS school.
I went to the receuiter like mid September and was shipped off by November 1st.
@@Seasniffer1969 MEPS is the entry system to be qualified to enlist and where you sign your contract. She did split ops training. Which is what you have to do when 17 years old.
@@peytonlewis4076 Yep, you're right.
@@Seasniffer1969 what rand did she enter
Break their hearts here to Keep them Alive Later. The Navy Runs On high Stress. Keeps men alive. Work deck or engine room. How about a Refuel. No games at Sea.
I suffered through Navy boot camp in the 60s, back when the SEALs were UDT. It was 12 weeks long, and there is NOTHING about it that I thought was fun. Lack of sleep, excess physical activity, and tons of class work all made for an unreal experience. But, when I made it through, my first thoughts were, EVERYONE should have to go through this. And, I made it through this, I can do ANYTHING. It sure takes the Mama out of Mama's boys.
1964, Company 214, San Diego - Hooya!
Yeah we know what seals are up to.
Lol .
Early 70's and the same, ran every where and then we were put down for 30 because we were sweating.
Siq, discharged or set back
My GPA was in the navy late 60a to early 70s and said he came out of boot camp in the best shape of his life, but left the navy in the worst shape. He was some kind of radar operator on a nuclear destroyer of the coast of Vietnam. Lots of sitting in front of a screen before everyone's job involved that.
My dad was in the USN for 27 years, retired an E7 CPO, he was a Seabee, passed away 2 years ago! Miss you dad
My Dad was a Seabee.
R.I.P. to your Father and thanks for his Service.
My grandfather was a SeaBee in WW2 in the pacific.
RIP, to your dad. I'm/was a Seabee, CE3. Served from 2003-2011.
Hooyah Shipmate! RIP to your father.
Over thirty years ago in Washington, we were taking a break in a Georgetown bar. I was sitting with an Army and a Marine officer. They were becoming intelligence officers and enrolled at Georgetown for graduate work. These guys had some slight interservice rivalry but could agree on one thing. The Army officer turned to the Marine officer and said: "Look at those naval officers. Ain't they disgusting?" The object of their contempt had a belly only slightly over his belt.
i hear ya. if it was not so prevalent it would be one thing. but as a trend it shows a level of lack of discipline.
@@JamesonsTravels that falls on the people at the top. Outside foreign influence love to see it. It's war from the inside out
Back 84 when i went through boot camp at PI we started out with about 78 recruits in receiving we only had one chubby guy 3 months later we graduated with 38 Marines and he was one of them.
@@JamesonsTravels WTF> tropical whites with piping?, what happened to original seafarer and dixie cup?, wearing camouflage for what?, when did E-6 start wearing khakis as a company commander it's supposed to be salt and peppers or cracker jacks?, no bench marks for standard recruit to attain, split tails and swinging di_ _s doing PT together. Only Chiefs and Officers wore khakis, females below E-7 should wear salt and peppers,, never seen crow insignia on any khaki either, it's either officer insignias or chiefs anchors,, etc..etc.. I better start learning Mandarin, Russian and Fosi Koosi... . BM2 (SW) CSAR
@@JamesonsTravels
As a young private, I was so high-speed (joking) they put me in the barracks room above the battalion SGMs office. This was a battalion ranger that cut his teeth in the 80s and lost guys in Granada. One day I found myself standing in his office when he told me a story about how the old timers when he joined would tell him how easy he had it and how he would never measure up. I tend to think we have been letting the standards drop since ar least since Vietnam. The truth is, we will have a reality check sooner or later at which time they will make drastic changes that may seem unreasonable now.
Former Marine here, 97-01. In boot camp, light duty was HIGHLY frowned upon. We had a recruit on light duty for over a week, never got held back. PCP, or pork chop platoon, overweight people, you had a very limited time to lose the weight, or you were held back, and after 2 times, you were out. Same as rifle range if you didn't qualify.
In the navy we called anyone on light duty a sick bay commando. We used this term in the fleet too. This was in the late 80s.
@@chevy4x466 Skate Rate. Roller skate on the shoulder badge.
@@Pilot4prophet661 when a society doesn’t shame shameful behavior…. Well, we get what we have
Luckily nobody in my platoon tried to sneak food back to our barracks when I was in boot camp. One person did try to sneak ice cream inside a glass of milk when we were in the rifle range chow hall.
They caught him, of course made us all stop eating, throw our food away, and go straight out to the nearest pit where we PT'd for about an hour. That night, none of us were allowed to shower during drill instructor square away time. And all had to go to bed dirty and spend the whole next day dirty as well.
Needless to say, the guy who tried to sneak ice cream was very unpopular from there on.
if we found someone doing that....they would get beat. hard.
@@JamesonsTravels yeah, that night they punished us all but for the next week or so they had him on the Quarterdeck just about every chance they got to put him there.
They rarely touched us physically, but they were extremely creative with other ways to punish us.
I have several examples, but my favorite is the time they made me stand in front of a mirror for about 25 minutes pointing to myself and pointing to my reflection repeating the phrase "I'm not stupid you're stupid!" over and over again. They made me sound it off so it echoed throughout the entire Squad bay. LOL
I can laugh about it now, but back then I did not think it was very funny.
All hell would come down from above if food was ever brought back from the chow hall. That was a lesson I was not interested in learning.
@@sparrow420500 thats absolutely brilliant!! kudos for that!
@@JamesonsTravels good haha
This girl is the prime example of what’s wrong with kids and young adults today… overly entitled and lazy.
watch her entire video. sad statement on patriotism. she has been taught it.
Not defending the behavior in any way but when you are to skate through boot camp with that mentality how much of it is actually their fault?
I'm against woman in the Army, at least in Operative units. I had females in my Unit that were tough as nails but...none of them ever was able to do a march with a 80+ Pounds backpack. They can't also carry a wounded squadmate of 200 pounds on their shoulders.... can't understand why now we deny the evidence.
I sure hope the US and its allies don't end up in a war against countries with large standing Navies for example Russia...and China...
Then they go on to become SL&L (Sick, Lame & Lazy) employees at the post office. Having others lift because they can't.
Had been stockpiling peanut butter packets for weeks before the crucible to randomly give to others when they needed a boost in morale. Stocked up about 2-3 lbs of packets in the top pouch of my ilbe pack and DI's found them the night before. I got my face PT'd off that morning leading up to the crucible, but was nice after finally getting the EGA. DI said it was a good intentioned move, but he didn't regret making me suffer in the pit for it. Rah
I hid my PB in the shower vent.
At least it wasnt from the MRE's...that MRE peanut butter will stop you up worse than your girls hair in the shower drain. Depending on the meal and your digestive system, an MRE is either a Meal Ready to Exit or a Meal Refusing to Exit
Wow - There was a similar experience in my Platoon at MCRD back in 99'. See above comments if interested.
He was only pissed you got caught.
you are a legend sir... I had a guy like you in boot camp... I was on a super restrictive diet for the first three weeks... "You" were the guy who hooked me up with a half a peanut butter sandwich... someone like you practically saved my enlistment, it was what I needed in that moment to make it through the day, cause I was on the edge. I have no idea if the DI's knew or not... but he ended up being our Recruit Division Leader. Just a great guy, and knew when someone needed a boost, or a helping hand to cheer them on.
The fact my roommate at my 1st unit graduated navy basic training with borderline personality disorder, ODD, autism spectrum, schizophrenia and psychosis says a lot about Navy basic training
How is that even possible
It's not. Someone is confused @@martinwagnerproductions
@@martinwagnerproductionsUncle Sam's miss guided Children 😅
Autists 🤮
@@martinwagnerproductionsit’s really not.
Ex-Aussie Navy here. During our swim tests, the instructors were around the pool with brooms that they would use to push people back by their foreheads if they tried to get out. Of course, there were safety swimmers there in case someone was really in trouble, but if you didn't pass your swim test, you were gone. 1990's though - so things are probably a little more 'caring' now.
I did Navy boot in 1980. They found out who couldn’t swim during the initial dive off the board. Yea, they joined the navy and some couldn’t swim. Then they tested us all together in the pool. We had to kick away from half drowning recruits so we wouldn’t also be dragged down.
Now that's funny and how it should be.
It's like the liberal hippie soft body simps took over training😅
@@dwaynesbadchemicals To be fair, if you are swimming in the Navy chances are something went horribly wrong
This is wild😂 The chief @ 5:59 was my RDC IN 2021, she just picked up chief 💀 she hated me but definitely showed me how to become a team player
Did a total of 5 years in the navy back in the 80's. I was overweight going in to boot-camp. The company commanders put me in the "fat boy camp". Me and three or four other guys were called to step forward and the company commanders told the other recruits that they had permission to take food from our plates during chow.... and they did. I was always hungry. We had to do a lot of "Indoor Tennis" (IT - aka, "Intensive Training"). This food robbery thing stopped after a few weeks though. I can't remember how much weight I lost, but I lost a lot. I came out of boot feeling like a badass. To this day I still eat very quickly.... before anybody can steal my food.
😂😂😂😂
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Hahahaha. Like a dog guarding their food!!!
You have my respect sir!
Lot of ex-military does that. Even if you didn't actually have food stolen off your plate you learned to eat what you can when you can. You never know when some shitbird in your unit decides to do something stupid during chow and they make everyone stop eating because of it. Or any number of things that could happen that could curtail you chow time or remove it completely.
I went into bootcamp at 17 - right out of high school. It was the early 80's... I was 168 on a 5'8" frame and pretty fit. Came out 13 weeks later at 162... same height, of course... but much leaner and with more muscle mass. Felt great! I'm a retired Chief now and I learned later on that each recruit had about a 4,200 calorie daily allowance.... plus or minus, of course depending on how fast you ate but it was plenty. And it was good chow! Never took chow out of the chow hall... didn't need to and definitely didn't want the trouble if caught anyway!
We had no fat bodies at all.... there were strict guidelines for height/weight and fitness to even qualify to enter bootcamp. More than 40 years later - I'm at 172... still 5'8" though shrinkage may be coming 🤣🤣🤣
Did the pt entrance requirement test for boots in 2022 with an old Navy friend of mine recently - kind of an "old man" challenge - we both still met the requirements for entry for men aged under 24. Not bad for old farts... though I have to admit that my endurance isn't what it used to be and I definitely feel some pains that I didn't back then the next day or two.
Whenever I see fat serving military folk - I shake my head in disdain! Seriously... y'all can do better!
@@edwardvincent623 Wow! 120 lbs at 5'8" is quite small! Bootcamp did good things for you! At 26 lbs heavier you would have been a lean and mean machine coming out the other end of the pipeline! 👍
I seen pictures of my dad before the Army (early 1990s) and after. He was 5 something and lean. During the Army he definitely put on muscle mass. My brother was lean as well, probably leaner than my dad at 17/18 and after Marine boot camp, he became one super lean moose of a man!
@@edwardvincent623 Right? We had animals and a few acres in the sticks. Sure, their was a family video game console and my brother bought his own, however we were often outside. Even at freinds, we'd be doing outside chores!
I went to great Lakes for my Boot Camp in 1980 is well. In any case chief greetings from the state of Kentucky and thanks for your service brother.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Thanks, mate! Love your fried chicken 🍗.... 😎
Chief Walters! Great guy who earned it! Super proud of my brother.
That woman just out of boot camp might be honest, but I sure as hell wouldn't want her in my command.
Exactly!
Seabee in the Navy here. Went through boot camp in 2019 just before Covid. At that time and 3 years later, it has always and still is "frowned upon" to be LD or SIQ. Take care of yourselves, recruits, but pay your dues. That's all I'll say.
Also, we had one big ass kid sneak just the peanut butter cups back to the berthing. He was the Head PO and hid them in the paper towel dispenser. One day, by chance, our UT1 happened to find one inspecting the head and we got ****ed for about an hour. We are in a new, pathetic time in the Navy, I agree, but some of our divisions still played by FMJ rules.
Agree, I was in boot in 1991, rolled my ankle and had to go on LD....worst 2 weeks of my training, I busted my ass and faked I was 100% to get back into my original company, and most were mad at me when I made it back in, thinking I had been gun decking .
@@SeabeeLand sounds like you were in a unit with only men
Yea I’m a Seabee too my bootcamp div was all male it was alright all I went through quarantine the general vibe was war with china so we were motivated. We got some fat bodies in battalion idk how they manage it with how much we would sweat on a daily basis on deployment.
As a Seabee I’m sure that when you got to your first duty station you were told to forget most of what you learned in boot camp because this is the way WE do things.
In my Navy boot camp SEALs were the swim instructors. The recruits who failed the test were sent separately for extra training sessions to learn how to swim.
Mandatory service would go along way to getting this country back on track.
But never gonna happen, too many cry baby leftists
ABSOLUTELY!!!
Ayoo 📖
😂 what!
Never cook again
Went into the Navy in 1971 and came off the Farm so the physical Fitness was not that bad, was up at 5:00 am every day working livestock, and knocking off work at 2200 so the hours were actually less stressful. The biggest thing for me was getting into that TEAMWORK mindset. But I was what you would say Excellent Physical Condition before I went into bootcamp, there were some muscle groups that I didn't commonly use so that was about it. Our CC ran with us the day we arrived, he was shocked that I was one of the 2 that could keep up with him from day one. By the time we graduated the weakest guy could do the 3 mile run, even though it was supposed to be 1.5 mile run, they were proud that they did the 3 mile run in exactly double their 1.5 mile run times. You don't know what you can do ktill you are pressed to do so. Have lived by the motto for decades "Know your limitations then IGNORE THEM".
I was in Navy Bootcamp back in 2015. I’m about 5 ft 9 and I weighed about 160 lbs at the time. I had as a slimmer muscular build from running track. We weighed in before graduation and I was 136 lbs. My parents actually walked passed me without recognizing me at graduation. Any little bit of muscle I had, I lost all of in bootcamp. The PT simply was not challenging enough.
Same, I could do 20ish pull-ups and when I graduated I could barely do 5. It’s ridiculous how easy it was, the running was always the best part cause I could go as fast as I wanted but couldn’t run as long as I like. They need to boost the exercise requirements. Push-ups, planks, and 1.5 mile run isn’t enough.
They didnt have gyms?
So the pt was so easy that you lost muscle? Lol in army basic it was the opposite, me and most other guys who came in with a decent amount of muscle lost a lot of it by the end but it was because we were constantly on the go and just burned through it
Navy boot camp 1987, Orlando FL. I think I weighed 140 going in and 170 on the way out (not fat gain). I remember having to do IT (intensive training) once. It sucked because my muscles just quit working (leg lifts) I got yelled even more :) My niece just went through Army boot at Fort Sill and it sounds like they let her slide a bit but the heat there was brutal plus there's the military wide recruiting shortage going on, so...
But lets be honest most sailors it didn't matter in history how in shape they were jusy needed hands aboard
You sir, are the military grandpa we never had. I watch your videos as motivation to toughen up and face life. Kudos and respect to you sir.
My grandfather was a colonel
Sir what
Finally, 1 person in charge who isn't morbidly obese.
My dad was in the Coast Guard Vietnam era he was a really strong swimmer being a surfer he’s whole life but hated running. Anyway he said to me when I was a kid “you’d be surprised what you can do when someone is running behind you with a bayonet pointed at your ass,” I said yeah but he wouldn’t have stabbed you with it and his answer was “he sure as hell would have!!” 😆
I went through in the late 90s. There were still a few old salty chiefs around from the Old Guard the stories were crazy.
Lol that’s funny
Private Pyle from Full Metal Jacket could be a Navy Chief in today's military.
Well of course. Private Pyle is born again hard.
sadly, yes
I was a kid with not much experience outside "the nest" when I joined. It was a culture shock and certainly left me emotionally rattled, especially when I was getting screamed at my strangers every day for things I didn't know I was doing wrong. But I was an athletic kid, so certainly nothing was ever challenging on a physical level in bootcamp. It was simply the quick development of emotional maturity that RTC was TRYING to accomplish with each recruit. Navy life isn't about being a PT stud afterall. There's certainly some embarrassment with how fat the force has gotten, but I think some people have the wrong expectation when they compare Navy Boot to Army or the Marine Corps.
I would say for the most part, not much of this Navy Boot video comes off as fake or even played out. The first Chief I ever saw was in my face for an hour about ANYTHING I was doing hahahaha. That new sailor we see really seems like she's gonna be a problem child for her first LPO, and probably gonna be Ad-Sep'd before her 4 years are even through.
It's easier to float if you're fat, so there is that...
@@imaouima sure man. It's also harder to be effective in Damage Control like that too. So there are obvious flaws in Navy PT.
"Navy, navy, I'm in doubt. Why's your belly hanging out?" 😁
Is it whiskey or is it wine?
Or is it lack of PT time?
@@andrewguerra9343😂
hope like hell we dont go to war any time soon.. we aint ready
My fkin ass couldn't wait to get into the military - my parents weren't there so I loved my time in the Army. Just stumbled across these videos and i gotta say - I love your cool, calm, and collected commentary. I was active 08-13, deployed to Kandahar for OEF 10-11. Being a JFO attached to a line company ended up being exactly where I needed to be. I think the fact I had to embrace that suck a little earlier than those around me helped me a lot. OEF 10-11 was pretty rough - we lost 62 people as part of our task force.
We had a guy who would sneak cookies back to his bunk. One time RDCs did a gear check and had us turn our bags upside down on the toe line. All his gear came out first then that cookie dropped on top like a cherry on ice cream. Absolutely hilarious, it was like a movie. Guy got rolled back two weeks
I saw that movie. He ended up killing the drill instructor and himself.
@@charlottelawrence8671 NOT THE GUNNY
Old Navy here, great video with Jameson's comments, shows people what they are getting into. Agree that DIs have to be in good shape themselves before they start yelling at the Fat Boys and Girls. Bootcamp helped me appreciate the importance of staying in good physical shape, and this has helped me throughout my life, now 72 and still in good shape without a barrel gut!
Im in the Navy now and the lack of discipline and getting people out effects the schools I'm in. Luckily, I'm a live ashore but the amount of drama and relationships and people acting like they're out in the streets piss me off. I joined thinking there would be like minded people here, but they act like middle schoolers. Some instructors have been caught with students and they just get rank taken. Boot camp was way too easy for me, and it was boring as hell
Same with me I went to hospital corps school the military did not get reel for me until I went to field medical corps school at Camp Pendleton Ca. spent 8 more years with the USMC SEMPER FI My brothers !
Lol you're in A School, aren't you?
@@Felix-dg9rt That would be correct
@@timpoling8634 lmao I can tell. Listen. In the fleet, we act like normal everyday people. 17-24 year olds are all the same, military/college/high school etc. I know you don't get this yet because you're new, but don't be surprised when you get to the fleet when no one marches to work in the morning or talks like a normal person to Chief or Divo
@@Felix-dg9rt I’m looking forward to the fleet honestly seems like the better fit
I'm old Navy and this is embarrassing. Not in my day. Proud graduate of AOCS in Pensacola. Our military has been pussified.
It's everywhere! Somethings going on?
@mrsensable it is distruction from within. All top positions. In the government, military, and private industry. Require a college degree. Sadly, the degree is secondary to the libral indoctrination. This has polluted the country from within. Removed common sense and integrity from the leadership.
Always has been. What happened to protecting this country from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC??!
You were taking orders from the exact pedophiles back in your day that we have a problem with today. The enemy has been behind the gates barking orders at ya’ll since 1913.
@@mrsensable globalism
Do you know this reminds me of a sopranos the old-school Way (think Phil leotardo ) things are equivalent to the way the old military was now we have this pigmy thing
It’s really funny seeing this as someone that went through marines boot camp in 2015. They are definitely showing a pumped up version for this video, but the marine one you did was watered down in comparison. I wouldn’t be surprised if the old marine insider video is now the standard in marine boot camp. Man how quickly things change.
Marine Corps branding sells. all service should sell that even though most never fire an m-4.
When I was at MEPS a few months ago, the Marines had 2 and a half lines outside of their liaison office. Coast guard wasn't even there (may be a different place? Not sure, it was odd), Navy had a few, Army a few, Air Force a few. But it was a obvious number difference.
@CODY BRAY Asperger's? You mean autism :)
@CODY BRAY ok my brother you have fun with that thought. I have no need to prove to you.
@@hockey66191 that could be from the prestige of earning the title. We had a 10 army guys, 3 navy, and like 2 Air Force at the MEP. There was 5 of us from my DEP there that day. I guess recruiting numbers for us is still good. I just was told by one of my boots in 2020 before I got out that they did change boot camp to now have a two week marine week after the crucible and earning your EGA. Happy to see that in your area it was still pulling some numbers.
P Days are hell. It's like living at the department of motor vehicles for a week.
Wearing them blueberries .........Been there ...done that!!
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Definitely not the same boot camp I went through at RTC San Diego back in 1981.
On a side note, we shared a fence with MCRD (Marine boot camp) and on day one our Company Commander said that if we didn’t like boot camp and decided to run don’t go over that fence because if the Marines catch you they keep you.
I went to RTC San Diego in the same year. Believe it or not, we sometimes did our PT on the MCRD side. There was an opening in the fence.
So I’m assuming when you say they keep you then you’d to thought marine boot camp and become a marine?
Yep, RTC San Diego 1990.
What months? I was at MCRD in 1981…
Went to Great Lakes in December 2004 (division 093). Our three instructors were in shape to a high degree. Good mix between individual building and team building. Nobody was safe from a beating. Segregated units so you rarely saw a female peer. Great mix of people from all over USA, some from abroad. Bad apples were kicked out, leading to a solid division at the end ready to transition to next duty station with humility and respect.
June 2004 Division 279
Great Lakes 1992 Sept. CO 225
2005 Div 275, all were fit as hell too
NTC Great Lakes January 1994 Division 087. Oooh ahhh Zero Eight Seven Smoooooth Sailin'!!!!
Feb 2004. Hooyah shipmates
I heard the pacer test and I immediately thought about the pt we would be graded on in middle school through high school, I didn't expect it to actually be THAT pacer. That's actually mind boggling to me that they are doing conditioning we had in middle school through high school.
It's not a bad exercise though
@@aj897 not saying it is, just caught me like damn
I started dying 😂😂😂 That’s sad asf imagine having something like that in the corps
@@Grgfiu If it works, it works
They gave us ice cream on the 4th of July. One guy snuck 3 strawberry ice creams from the chow hall. He ate them all quick and ended up puking all over the squad bay.
I'm at 20 years of active duty in the Army and went to basic not long after 9/11. I went to sick call one time after the DS saw my socks soaked in blood and had my toenails surgically removed. I declined a profile because if I didn't complete the final field problem that week (including a 20+ mile hump) I'd have to restart that 3 week phase over again. I did it with no big toenails because I wanted out of there. Sick bay commandos had nobody discouraging them but they paid a price for malingering, 3-5 extra weeks of boot camp. One guy completed basic with cracked ribs.
fuckin EXACTLY. i never understood why some kids would go on profile if they werent hurt, or fake suicidal ideations. youre just gonna end up sitting there for weeks and weeks after your original company graduated. and i didnt want one more SECOND of FLW in the winter.
Did the same thing in Navy "A" school. Got deathly ill. Skin was pale and I had never been so sick in my entire life. Lasted about 3 weeks. But had I went SIQ I would've gotten held back for 2 more months. For me personally that was not an option.
I went to WOCS at Ft. Rucker ten years ago in the summer and I finished the course with a heat injury. My entire class got sick and the cadre forced us all to take two days bedrest. We all wanted to graduate, worked hard just to get there and had no desire to fail or wash back. If anyone went to medical then you *knew* it was serious. Some people really have no shame being dead weight and nothing will change them.
Went thru Benning in early 2002. It wouldn’t surprise me many in that Company did the same.
Thank you for being harder than most and your service.
The people who joined after or because of 9/11 are a different breed. You wanted to get through and go out to Afghanistan.
My seniors in the USMC always said my group had it easy and that we had it so much easier than they did. I believe it. My time was not easy, but it was not "full metal jacket" level I was expecting. I say bring back the ability of the DIs to hit recruits. Let us know we can take a hit and keep going. War is hell. Training should do its best to teach you how to survive that hell.
I'm good on that front lol, if someone hits me I'm hitting back and they're not gonna like that
@@eatmyphatphuckingass yea bud ya say that now if you aren’t fit for training then you’d be rolled out anyway
@@MustardTiger1983
Lay hands pn someone do not whine when your hand gets broken
Yeah man idk about that… combat arms is only a small portion of our forces lol are we gonna just slap around the cooks and accountants 😂
@@eatmyphatphuckingass no your not
I did four years active duty, three IRR and just got out of a six year reserve stint. Boot camp was easy when I went in 2009 and I was in decent shape. Others, not as much, but I can say that all of our RDCs were physical specimens, and a solid example of the types of Sailors we should aspire to be. During my entire time in Great Lakes, I never saw a chief as portly as those in this video.
I fear this slide will continue. After all, the Navy suspended the Physical Fitness Assessment for TWO YEARS due to COVID and many did not work out on their own. Many failed the weigh ins and some failed the exercises which are not hard. The culture of being a hard@$$ needs to make a comeback NOW.
June 2010 for me, 8yrs active, but similar experience.
My Chief at RDC was... well.. if you know, you know.
But the other two RDC's a LS2 and AO1 were both physical specimens in their own right. LS2 was lean and would smoke us all during runs, and AO2 was just built like an absolute tank.
I'm old back in the day you left high school in shape. boot camp was no big deal
I’m currently in the process to get to the weight requirements and the army is being very consistent and keeping me accountable with my weigh ins. I’m struggling to understand how these navy recruits got in overweight…
If you not at the weight requirement yet does the recruiter help you? And have u taken the ASVAB yet?
Army has higher standards
@@redjupiter2236 physically maybe. But brains they don't
@@davidfaxon3336 Agreed
They lowered the standards.
Just graduated on the 24th of March, and to be clear, my RDC's were tough on us. We were a 900 Division, so we had extra time in bootcamp, our experience was 12 weeks long compared to the rest. My Chief went out of his way to ASMO LD's and SIQ's, and he did a great job of weeding out those who put no effort in. Whenever we did ITE, which was almost everyday, sometimes twice a day or when we first wake up, we'd get beat for over an hour and a half. People were passing out, bleeding, and collapsing. Maybe it was just my division, but it wasn't a cake walk. People like that sailor would've been ASMO'D if she had my RDC's. Some people cheat the system, some try their best and get the recognition.
They kept your 900 div for four extra weeks? We only did 8 weeks and didn’t do nearly enough PT (almost 1/4 the division failed the final PFT). Were you the ceremonial 900 or band geeks?
Leadership in all branches are now SOFT and everything is relative.. You were given participation trophies in school so (of course) you think think your RDC's were tough... They are not and either are you. Real world will prove my point. America's Military has no RESPECT and nor should they. You have GIRLS training men.. Soft!
That's good to hear shipmate. Us older vets want you new sailors to have the best and hardest training to prepare you for the challenges in fleet. We want people to come home as well. Also when you find yourself swapping stories with other sailors, we want you to experience that smirk we have because we can all relate to our training days lol.
Take care out there.
DEI & CRT have alot to with the tards,cry babies, & losers They accept them nowa day's
I went to Great Lakes Jan22 and was the first division to have 10 week boot camp. One of the first things your RDCs will say is Boot Camp is what you make it. I lived a unhealthy lifestyle and wasn’t in shape when I went. I figured I would enjoy myself before I went because when I went it would be game on. You have to have the right mindset going in, that’s your foundation. If you don’t believe in yourself and they will test you, then some recruits will try and go LD or SIQ. There are exceptions of course like if you need your wisdom teeth removed you will get a some time SIQ. Then your right back at it. Point is that everybody is different and when you are there you learn to work as one and bring what you have to offer to make sure we all succeed because One Team One Fight. We had some recruits who were aiming to be special forces who could run a mile and a half in less then 8mins. They would hold them selfs back to do a 10 min run and would tell our division if you fall behind me then you failed the run. Which was for the youngest group of recruits standards. There is not many people if any at all who could pass boot camp by them self. You need help; everyone does, it’s a team. That’s just my experience.
Lol one team on fight. I don't think the navy teaches that at all. Try one person fucks up you all are fucked. One person succeeds because of your work, well still get fucked while they get rewarded.
this comment motivated me! Thank you so much. I leave for boot camp in January.
Ahhhhh the dress whites, had no piping on the back in 1987. Those 3 stripes in the jumper top.
I did Navy bootcamp in 2001. It got me prepared for what was to come. I never stepped foot on a ship in 6 years of service. I was in a all male division in bootcamp. Also apart of a group that was going into more elite training schools. I was supposed to be a Aviation warfare specialist/ Rescue Swimmer. So I was given the opportunity to go and challenge myself further by training with the guys going into similar fields of work. Rescue Swimmer school didn't work out due to injury. So had to reclass and pick a new job. I chose Corpsman. I then went on to be a FMF Corpsman. Did my last duty station in Great Lakes working as a EMT for bootcamp and all the surrounding base training areas. I got to see the Uss Cole battlestations area that Disney built. So I could be familiar with to extract any possible real time emergencies. I enjoy watching your videos.
Hey I got to actually go through that battle stations area in 2004. Was it brand new then? I had no idea Disney built them. That’s weird.
@@John_Notmylastname it's wasn't built yet in 04.
Fellow AW! aircrew school in Pensacola was leagues harder than anything in boot.
As a former Sailor I find this vid. to be pitiful!! Fat company commanders for a start! I'm speechless!! How WUSSIFIED can they get!! We were able to kick-ass and take names after boot back in 81!! I know you can relate Jameson. SAD!!
i dont expect the staff to be cross fit studs but at least look good in your dress uniform. .damn
Agreed! Pitiful
@@JamesonsTravels Amen Devil Dog!!
@@dougwilson6778 👍
Oh, well let's see what's happening with the new recruit's a couple years from now? Wussification will be mandatory by then. high heels probably too
I went through Amry BCT 2 years ago now and I prepped for this to be the most difficult thing I would ever do in my life and by the end of it, I walked away feeling like I was robbed of a proper BCT experience. At no point was I physically challenged by the things we did, and would end up working out on my own time just to get a proper soreness in my body. The lack of sleep and fire guard was probably the most difficult since I get grumpy without sleep and didn't have ciggs to help.
bingo. all young recruits i meet want the experience and challenge. not watered down garbage.
I appreciate your integrity guy! Good luck in your career and God bless
Well buddy, you still got RASP, SFAS, Special Selections, and Ranger School. I see so many people whine BCT wasn't hard and then they peak at Airborne at best.
Honestly I heard that too from other young solders..
@@JamesonsTravels Im shipping to navy boot camp in July of next year and I"m hoping it ends up being more challenging than everything I've heard so far. Ill just have to hold out hope for a tough RDC or something
“Iron Marshmellows” 😂😂😂 that had me cracking up! We had folks like that, where yeah they’d look like a marshmallow but could destroy you in a run!
Back in my day if you got put on light duty they all got their own group called the gimp squad and they were ridiculed.
light duty is all most of gen Z can do. you are lucky they are fighting at all
My 1965 Navy boot camp experience wasn’t too far from Gunny Earmy in Full Metal Jacket. It’s sad to see overweight DIs as well as recruits who have it a lot easier than we did. How are they going to handle going into combat? I’m more than sad to see this b/c many of the things I learned in recruit training have guided me throughout my 70 + years on earth.
My 1989 Navy Boot Camp experience was like Gunny Hartman but with a Philippine accent.
We're living in soft times, man.
@@TheTurk56523 I hear ya’ man.
Watching recent US military training makes me feel extremely tough, in comparison. This is hard to believe.
As a Marine 03, being on light duty was something to be avoided at all cost. Most people have no concept of what platoon life is all about.
Light Duty in boot camp? “Dude’s got a boiler”! WTF? Is this McHale’s Navy? All kidding aside, everyone has a role. Running a ship is a different world from being a snake eating knuckle dragger. As a US Army veteran, I thank all freshly minted graduates from all the services, and pray for their success and safety in their new military roles. 🇺🇸
might be a new navy tactic you know they say fat floats better then muscle 💪
@@jsanto10021982 10 weeks of hell? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The absolute HARDEST thing to do in Navy boot camp is not fall asleep in class. That's it. If you show up in half-decent shape, none of the PR tests are difficult at all. Only 1 week is "hell week" and it's only that because most of the people have to work in the galley. Hint: If you want to skate that week, make sure you're a squad leader or in some other recruit leadership position.
Nothing "hellish" about it. Not like they're trying to convince sailors to run across open fields into machinegun fire. LOL
@@johnpauljones9310 We had a 19 year old 6' tall Inuit girl (I know) at work who went to Great Lakes, when she came back I saw absolutely Zero difference in her Body Structure, whatever she did there wasn't Boot of any description.
I went through Army boot in 1981, 11 Bravo.
She couldn't do the Heavy Labor at work I did and I am 60 years old and have labored all my life, she couldn't do it when she got back either, hurt her foot the first week she got back, never returned.
Boot lol.
@@pappysshoes6563 exactly true its politics identity! Vote Red
I can honestly say this was the first time I have ever heard the expression "soft as a squiggly Bear's belly."
I have to admit that one made me laugh, JT!
thanks. that group was soft including the instructor staff.
@@JamesonsTravels that is disappointingly true.
Navy boot camp back in 2013. Recruiters never organized PT for the Future sailors. A few of us took the initiative to workout. They just didn’t want us to hike. We were told you have to run and do push-ups and sit ups at the time. We went in with a decent level of knowledge and physical fitness. Also being in integrated division, the males can work together a lot better than the females.
11:59 always my people who can't swim🤣, I swim like a fish LMAO. How are you, in 2024, a grown ass person who doesn't know how to SWIM!!??
I went to Army Bootcamp in 1984 and enjoyed it. There were so many funny events and things that the Drill Sergeant said, that just made you laugh inside. I would never have dared to laugh out loud or even silently without facing the wrath others were facing. To the Chow Hall, we had to run (about a quarter of a mile) to the entrance, do 20 push-ups (10, recover and then another 10) before being allowed to enter. We were allowed 10 minutes inside (the faster you ate, the more you were able to eat.) We had to run back to the barracks afterward. There were so many who vomited along the way, but after a few days, it got better for everyone No one ever thought of sneaking any food back to the barracks. It was never a thought as the punishment for everyone would have been too great. PT was torture, but rewarding. Everyone got fit and were proud. Our DI was an infantry Vietnam Vet with a very large fruit salad. Even when we graduated Boot Camp he called off the name, threw the certificate on the floor, and each one of us had to crawl to pick it up. If we were not fast enough we had to do sets of push-ups before being allowed to crawl back to where we had been standing. Then in 1986 I joined the Air Force and unfortunately, even though I was prior service, I had to do the Air Force Boot Camp as well (We even had two prior marines with us) This was a short time in the military where this was enforced. Anyway, AF basic was so easy compared to that of the Army. We were even allowed to go into town on the weekends and have 30 minutes to eat. (And we walked to the Chow Hall!) It makes me sad to see these videos today. It was an accomplishment to finish boot Camp and to remember the days of shaking muscles as you were finally allowed to sleep. Everyone was proud and I do not think there is any vet from that era, or any time before, who doesn't have fond thoughts of that experience.
Yes fond memories of Parris Island?
In the Australian army when I joined, your mates would ‘have a chat’ if you were on light duty, more if it was obvious malingering. This is crazy!
that is how it should be. hurt keep going injured see medical
@@JamesonsTravels woke military I am generation z kid and I know the military has went soft
When i was in the Canadian army, you'd get hurt, you stop training. You go to sick bay but report every day for parade. Then you start over or join a different platoon where you left off. There was no passing the basic if you were not fit to fight.
@@GabTheDrummer nice
I heard from more than one sailor that Australian bubbleheads constantly embarrassed their American counterparts. Maybe we need Australian sailors training ours.
Navy Boot Camp teaches you attention to detail and how to live on a ship. It is not particularly physically challenging unless your RDC loves blue cards. It’s honestly not even mentally challenging unless you can’t handle being away from your phone.
My Dad was in USMC near the end of Korean War, they had to climb a 40' ladder (with full pack, except for rifle), jump off a platform into water (if you hesitated, the next guy 'helped' you off), and swim to the pool deck. If you had trouble swimming, guys with long poles 'helped' you by beating you until you started swimming.
Alright so, I was in the Navy about 14 years ago and recently transitioned to the Army as an NCO, but had to go through basic. This is basically what I took away:
Modern basic training is driven by retention. Everyone who entered, graduated, unless they specifically insisted on going home. From the worst dirt bag, to the most motivated highspeed trainee, everyone graduated and no one was held back. The drill sergeants could not punish people individually. They were almost completely neutered in what they could actually do to correct people who were selfish and lazy. Honestly, it was pathetic and was extremely demotivating. But this is the modern military, which seems to be run more like an idiocrcy rather than a meritocracy. I, along with any of the other prior service trainees, were prevented from holding any leadership roles. These roles were given to the least motivated people in the company.
Marxism! Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn warning to the West Communism
I feel like everyone's Basic Training experience is completely different. I remember at Fort Sill the company next to ours started about 5 weeks after we did, and they were trying a newer, gentler phase with that class, where no one got smoked or yelled at, and I remember them talking to us to ask what we did to mess up so bad since they saw us getting smoked all the time and that never happened to them despite them being on week 1 and us being ready to graduate.
People don't realize the experience is planned. My platoon had a 50/50 approach where we got smoked like everyone else but they tried to give us more of a cerebral approach at times to correct ourselves. The platoon downstairs was tortured and terrorized all the time the whole time. We performed, all around, better than the other platoons in the company. Come to find out, in the previous cycle our platoon was the one with the overbearing DSs and now they were supposed to switch it up. Just like the DSs have different roles...there's the dad, the chill one (until you screw), and the crazy one.
When I was going through U.S. Army Drill Sergeant training at Fort Benning back in 1987 one of the people had been prior service Navy. I asked him the difference between Navy and Army basic and he said that in the Army if the training is less than 5 miles away you walk, in the Navy if it's over 5 blocks away you take a bus.
So true. In the AF the trainers come to you. LOL.
In Space Force, they just beam you over to your destination.
That's probably because at NTC Great Lakes it gets -75 with the wind chill. Anyways what do you need to get into the Army like a 14 on your ASVAB?
@@Edmundo75 Thats true, you can go in with a low score. And you know why they take them in. So don't be proud about hiding, behind the line.
@@Edmundo75 a pulse.
If the boat goes down use a Sailor as a flotation device Devil Dogs!
Almost 40 years ago, I literally missed BRM week, in the hospital with pneumonia. Got out of the hospital on Friday morning, spent way too long on the bus getting back to the company around 1100 hours. The 1SG took me to the arms room to get my M16 from the SP4 assistant armorer, who had been my platoon's Drill CPL (it was an experimental thing back then) before he got busted for "helping us" have the cleanest rifles ever by instructing us on how to disassemble the lowers for cleaning. The 1SG then ran me out to the range where the SDS, who was my platoon's DS when we started, gave me 6 rounds to zero while everyone else was getting their grub on. Qual'd Expert on the lanes with my company after being gone since the previous Saturday. Nearly got my ear blown out by an artillery simulator later on the night infiltration at the end of the razor wire lane with the tracers flying overhead. Didn't even go to sick call over that on, and have enjoyed a loss of hearing and tinnitus in my right ear ever since. That one is on me worrying too much about recycling if I missed any more time. However, I did not recycle, and in fact made Soldier of the Cycle and picked up my first stripe at graduation. Fun times.
My story should illustrate that it has always been a shitshow, and results, individual or Army wide, depend on your own motivations, and whether the good NCOs outnumber the bad.
Graduated bootcamp in 2021, one of the last 8 week divisions. Throughout bootcamp, you get opportunities to give feedback about what you think about bootcamp. We agreed it should've been extended to 10 weeks because we wanted more time on weapons training. I also went when Covid was still a big deal so we had to wear masks during our ITE sessions which was annoying. I'm glad that these guys are going to get more in depth training now
Asked guys who just got out of the 10 weeks, it’s more life skills classes… I guess they’re teaching them death by power points
@@justsomeguy6314 can confirm, it is death by PowerPoint
Hey yo what Div? I was 089 in NOV - JAN 2021
@@isaacthehuman6343 150 I shipped as you graduated Jan-Mar
I was one of the guys who did 10 weeks and it's not really that much training it is more PowerPoints
Ive got a few complaints as a Marine who just retired about 6 months ago. But a big one for me as a prior infantry man is when we are in the rear it’s constant 2000 and beyond nights. They preach family time but could honestly careless. If the task are complete there is still no going home before 1630 even after doing month long training op’s.
What y’all doing all day? Morning PT, BS classes, and then gym?? Lol
Grunts don’t do much in peacetime except the occasional field op and range.
4:55 gee sounds like a regular job show up on time
@0:14 seamen and flavor with in 5sec I'm dying 😭 🤣 😩 😂
Those two words should NEVER be used in the same sentence!!!
My son is a Petty Officer 1st class in the navy and is a corpsman. Currently teaching at the corpsman school in San Antonio. He went to Afghanistan with the Marines. Before he could go to Afghanistan he had to go through a mini Marine boot camp. He said the Navy had it easy compared to the Marines.
Ahhh….: devil docs. We look after and take care of them boys like their our own blood brothers. Every Marine no matter rank, unit or years they served will tell you the same thing. No one fucks with Doc !!
Corpsman are hard core, keep up the great work docs!
Corpsman A JOKE ITS COMBAT MEDIC all the way. Navy puke.
I graduated USMCRD San Diego in 1997. We had one man go on light duty because he broke his ankle on the last Crucible obstacle. It was a typical training O course where he climbed the rope at the end, slapped the wood at the top, then slipped and fell to the deck. On a broken ankle, this tough SOB still made it to the top of the reaper and received his EGA with the rest of us. He went on light duty when we got back to San Diego. Had he not made that final hump with us, he would have been dropped back in training.
The best Company Commanders were the crusty, salty first classes in dress blues and rolled over dixie cups,
barking four letter words you knew and some you didn't, all with thick Navy slang. Their breath smelled of coffee mixed with last night's alcohol. They had at least 4 sea service ribbons but just one good conduct. While we marched, they strolled the deck. My CC's name was MM1 Love and he loved to wreck us. While we ate lunch, he took delight in destroying our well kept barracks, tipping over lockers, then watching us clean it. He made us put on our raincoats then run in place until the barracks ceiling would collect moisture from our sweat. The ceiling would drip on us. He called it a "rain dance". In the evenings, he'd sometimes tell us sea stories that we could hardly believe but couldn't wait to survive. He was proud of his Navy and he was gonna make sure we were, too. That was Navy Boot Camp.
Serving this great republic over 43 years ago, these baby's couldn't make a day the way it used to be. United States Army Veteran, and God damn proud of it.
It’s literally still the same..
Army basic …fort Dix New Jersey February 87 🇺🇸👊🏼
@@jordanpoole3425 No it’s not and I know firsthand, I have a 19-year-old son in the Marine Corps. We compare what he went through in boot camp to what I went through in basic 35 yrs ago. It’s a lot easier nowadays.
@@jamesfyffe2610 Well it depends on where he went for bootcamp
@@jordanpoole3425 Paris Island, but ironically he’s stationed at Camp Pendleton and doing very well in avionics. Just recently got a Mast award for helping to retrieve and protect the tragic V 22 plane crash, which was part of his squadron. 🇺🇸👊🏼
I went to Marine Boot Camp in 1981.. I'm watching this and I'm thinking.. "so um.. what's the big deal??".. then I remember todays generation... I weep for our Country...
Ok boomer
@@coldclaws2479he’s right tho we’re all brainwashed and weak
The slow speed at which they were all eating chow blew my mind. If we had tried that, our chow would be in the trash.
I tried that during AF BMT 2005, and I had MTI run up on me and yell, " This ain't a fucking grand slam at Denny's! Eat faster goddammit it!" Took me years to slow down when I ate.
For real, at MCRD, you had to shovel your food fast. Everything piled on top of each other.
@@sixdsix5028 What was the saying: "Eat it NOW, taste it LATER"
Seriously, thank you for exposing this. The Navy really needs to look at this and be ashamed.
My recruit division is in this video for the swim portion of it xD. Graduated a couple weeks ago from boot camp, and it is not difficult at all if you come prepared.
awesome. good work. stay positive always. enjoy the ride and make the most of it. it goes by quick
@@JamesonsTravels Thanks. I’ll try to tell that to the 8-9 people in my class who failed out of corpsman school already lmao.
Set yourself apart from these slackers and you will shine.
The hardest part for me was the running. You have to be at least a little bit of a runner. But quickly got my pace and breezed through it and also prt in the fleet. Carrier Navy Veteran ABH3 V1 Div Crash and Salvage
11:58 Why tf would you join the NAVY without knowing how to swim?!
How frequently do they have to swim?
Ships usually don’t sink
My granddaughter is in bootcamp, she WAS a a whopping 105 lbs, after 4 weeks she is 115, she was in JRROTC which helped her with some terminology and protocol.. It really helped her by not being over weight getting through the Pacer test.
I was stationed on MCBH for three years after being stationed at NAS Oceana for 7 years and I can definitely point out that there is a culture problem as far as PT when it comes down to the Navy vs the Marine Corps. You would see the MC squadrons up and out early everyday doing command PT or having workout equipment somewhere in or around their hangers. While the Navy has a culture of you know when the PRT is so you find time on your time off to go PT and make sure you’re ready for the PRT. You also see the culture difference between the shipboard Navy vs Naval Aviation. In a Navy squadron it’s so fast paced that you barely have time to even take a chow break and after your 10-16(if you’re one of the people who often stays late just to stay afloat with the workload) hour shift not including watches most sailors the last thing on their minds is going to the gym.
While shipboard life because TF else you’re going to do when you get off of work the gym is always open and only a few frames down from where you work and sleep. Also when you’re on the ship unless you have a sucky rate you always have time to go to chow so you’re able to opt out of going to chow and instead spend that 40-60 minutes at the gym and swing by the galley grab some granola bars and eat that in your shop.
Not saying the Navy should allow time during the shift just for PT but the Navy needs to find a way to change the culture of PT. If not that’s the product you’re going to get.
This is what Wokeness brings us. None of these folks command any respect with their appearance. We had it rougher in the police academy than these Navy recruits. This is sad. My father, a Vietnam era Marine just shakes his head at this. Great stuff sir!
You comparing marines to sailors? Sailors have never been demand to be physically tough or fit even in historical context sailors only need to do the job demamded which is in most cases akin to regular work. Navy needs bodys not Olympians
The PT in Navy bootcamp is designed to minimize injuries and help couch potatoes pass their PRT. The strong will generally get weaker, and the weak will generally get stronger.
Interesting.
Fair statement.
It's different now, they used to hold you back if you had something wrong with you. Basically start back over.
One positive thing they could add for the Navy is to bring back the Red Line Brigs operated through the courtesy of the USMC. In my day just the threat of being sent to a Marine Brig, was enough to square a sailor away.
Joined the Canadian Army in 1980. Our "Boot Camp" (AKA Battle School) was 27 weeks long in those days. We started with 88 young men at the beginning and graduated 16. They dropped like flies. Injuries and sickness was expected to be sucked up and dealt with on your own. Otherwise it resulted in being held back (called "recourse").
With 8 weeks left before graduation I fractured my ankle badly. Finished and graduated by learning to limp-run and always landing on the other leg when jumping down from a wall or truck.
Id love to know you better Bob, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a smart and outspoken person
I overheard a conversation from a retention NCO. A soldier was offered almost 50,000 dollars for re-enlistment and denied the money. Tells you a lot right there. And that is unheard of for bonuses for re-ups
$50k ? That guy SF or what.
@@Ljcast956 nope average Joe
My dad was a Command Sergeant Major. He was super fit, was unit PTI and took on other sports outside of work.
The military is meant to be about superior fitness to win the battle.