500 Rounds Deep: Micro Dagger C1 Update!
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2024
- 500 Rounds Deep: Micro Dagger C1 Update!
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Today I'm giving you all a run down of how my C-1 Micro dagger performed, during its "break-in" period of 500 rounds in total. If you have one of these what's your experience been so far?
Drop those thoughts and comments below!!
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Pretty cool, man! That set up with the EPS and the TP trigger is sweeeeet!
Thank you sir! Quite the combo indeed, total transformation - I absolutely love this gun… lol
I have a C1 slide on my 43x and so for I've run about 2500 rounds through it with two malfunctions. Its been good to me so far. The one thing so far about this slide is, the port area is starting to erode away. I only have 3 months with it. I going how much longer it last till the port hole will be bigger.
Heck yeah putting in some work on that bad boy! Worst case I’m sure they’ll swap the slide, hopefully it holds up! That’s wild though, thanks for the feedback. I appreciate you being part of the squad - be safe and stay vigilant 🇺🇸🇺🇸🤙🏻🤙🏻.
Have a c-1 on a sct43 frame. Shot it about 100 rounds to break it in than it kept being out of battery. Took it apart was really dry no gun oil so improvised with motor oil ran like a champ! Definitely a few 100 more rounds and I'll carry it.
Awesome man - thanks for the feedback. How do you like the SCT frame? Have you compared it to the micro frame?
@VPTACTICAL can't compare it to the micro frame because I didn't have one but I did have the bigger dagger. Honestly I like it alot more reminds me of my shadow systems grip. Definitely very rough texture already and it comes with oem glock internals. Only issue I had was a small cruciform adjustment it shoots great even for a glock trigger.
@hemihayden Very nice - I’ve heard good things and I’m considering giving them a try. The grit grips frames have also been super popular as of recent.
@VPTACTICAL very popular! Waited almost a month for mine to come in stock at brownells they have diffrent colors coming as well. But for 100 you really can't beat it.
Glad to hear - I’ll add it to my list of things to get. They must be popular - month wait time is wild.
Unfortunately, I received my micro dagger yesterday and its already on the way back to PSA. Slide kept getting jammed without cycling back far enough to chamber the round. It settled down after 50 rds but PSA wanted me to send it back so they could look at it. I have no doubt they will make it right.
I’m sure like you said they’ll make it right, probably want to test it themselves and put it through its paces. I hope that you get it back quickly, best of luck! Thanks for the feedback and for being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant 🇺🇸🇺🇸🤙🏻🤙🏻.
PSAs customer service is tops.
That’s what I’ve heard as well, seems like they really take care of their customers!
Mine had or has that dead trigger issue, at first around every 6-10 rounds, then after a few trips to the range it was 15-20 rounds going dead trigger. I saw some videos on how to fix it, I haven't shot it since but i been doing some dry firing with some snap caps and i don't think that i ran into that problem again
Wild - hopefully the issue is resolved now and you’re back in business. Seems like some minor tweaking to the connector should do the trick. I hope it all works for you, I appreciate the feedback and for you being part of the squad. If you can’t get it resolved hit up PSA for warranty work. Best of luck - be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
@@VPTACTICAL many thanks, that's what I did, it was tactical patoon(sp) advice and put some CLP in the rubbing parts.
@intergalacticchicano He’s got some great knowledge and knows his stuff. 👍🏻
Wanted to put a Micro C1 (Comp) on my old Glock Factory (early model) 43x frame, so I bought the complete slide from PSA. Haven't shot it yet but playing w/ it today. The slide is stiff but functional, just dry firing (between 100 & 150 dry fire reps). My research on the Micro has resulted in the possible presence of some PSA QC issues. As of right now (again, dry fire only) everything looks A-OK. Now, I have a Factory Glock 48 MOS as well. I actually prefer the longer slide of the 48 over the 43x for Appendix carry. I only use the old 43x to pocket carry (in a Sticky Holster of course), which is rare.
So my thoughts were I'd put a Micro Dagger C1 slide on the old 43x frame & have the benefit of reduced muzzle flip while rapid fire shooting. If the Micro slide runs as well as my Glock(s), and w/ the built in slide Comp, then what the heck...I'll use it in my EDC rotation. And, if that's the case, I'd just feel more confident replacing the Micro slide internals w/ Factory Glock 43x internals.
W/ that in mind, I got a bit ahead of myself today...again, brand new, dry fired only, PSA Dagger Micro C1 Cerekote slide...I thought I'd swap the slide parts of my 43x over to the new Micro C1 slide (Cerekote). Interestingly enough, Glock striker group wouldn't insert (into the Micro) and neither would the Glock Firing Pin Safety. The Micro is too tight for those mentioned Glock Factory (used) parts. At this moment I'm thinking it may be the Cerekote finish on the new Micro slide.
Alas, looks like I'll leave well enough alone for now until I get about 500rnds through the new Micro slide.
Hello sir - thanks for the feedback. There's certainly a lot to customize and a number folks swapping parts back & forth between the 43X and Micro. Initially I thought the small package would have some uncomfortable recoil, however, after shooting the heck out of it: I've come to really like it and enjoy it shooting it. The C1 is just a slightly softer shooting version and its a favorite of mine as well. You're not lying and I agree with you the fitment is incredibly tight, my bet is that its related to the Cerakote finish & machining tolerances. Get out and shoot that thing, time to break it in. Thanks for the honest feedback, you're comment reminds me a lot of how I think and process information. I appreciate you being part of the squad, and hope that you stick around the channel. Be safe and stay vigilant!
So, 300rnds to 400rnds later, Micro slide has been flawless. Sadly, I'm still undecided (ref. internals) if I trust the PSA Micro enough in my EDC rotation. Mind you, it's only because of the few horror stories/video's I've found ref. PSA internal parts issues. If I could only fit Glock Factory internals into the PSA! Anyway, my youngest son talked me out of the slide...he shoots & EDC's it now and loves it (on his 43x Factory frame). Not sure how many rounds he's got through it but thus far no issues. I will say, neither of us can tell the difference in recoil compared to a Glock 48...LOL. He says it shoots softer/flatter than a 43x. I might agree? Regardless, I still think it's a great option for the 43x, not so sure ref. a 48.
@retiredsergeantroefaro4137 I hear you, you’ve got to be comfortable at the end of the day with what your carrying. Most parts are glock swappable - minus the trigger, unless you do a full drop in with a trigger housing. I know some folks that have swapped over parts from glock into their micro dagger. It may have some trial and error as the dagger tolerances are tight. From everything I’ve read and seen it’s possible.
@@retiredsergeantroefaro4137how did you solve the fitment issue of the micro c slide to the 43x lower?
Good question - shoot the heck out of it, unless you want to rack the slide for ages lol. That’s how both my C1 and extreme carry have smoothed out.
Is the Micro Dagger rated for +p ammo? I haven’t been able to get a concrete answer. My carry rounds are Sig V Crown 115 gr.
Good question - from what I understand +p should be good to go. Haven’t heard anything about +p+, just an FYI! Thanks for the comment and I appreciate you being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
How much of a recoil difference is there with the c1 vs the regular dagger
Great question - it’s hard to quantify in terms of a percentage or otherwise. The perceived recoil is less and follow up shots are faster. It’s definitely noticeable but not ground breaking lol. Overall given the added length/weight plus the slide ports it’s a softer shooting gun overall. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate you being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
I get my micro dagger c-1 tomorrow. What’s a good ammo to use for it?
Congrats on the new gear coming your way, a lot of folks suggest using a 124grain for “break-in” or wear-in. I run whatever I can find at the best price for brass: blazer, AAC, Remington, Winchester. I’m not loyal to any specific brand of ammo, that being said I avoid reloads. That’s just my personal preference. I hope this helps - thanks for the comment and for being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
Is the PSA Dagger worth the money? Good carry gun?
Good question - my take on it: it’s a solid gun for the money, tough to beat. Like any pistol get through at least 500 rounds (clean it before shooting). Long as you don’t have any major issues beyond that round count I’m good with carrying it personally. Everyone has their own comfort level, you’ll have to decide what’s best for you. Hope this helps! Thanks for the comment and I appreciate you being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
My Micro C-1 has been flawless. I have the same black frame with the OD green slide. Enjoy!
Glad to hear, thanks for the feedback. I love both of mine, luckily I’ve only had minor issues which seem to have smoothed out.
Picking my C-1 up tomorrow from FFL also in sniper green.
Nice! , congrats on the new gear. I’m still tinkering with mine and will be doing a few additional videos on it. Stay tuned - thanks for the comment and I appreciate you being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
@VPTACTICAL I've got several Glocks and Certified Armorer so this will be fun. Not a fan of hinged triggers, had an Apex on my Shield 1st gen and even on my M&P 2.0 4" within days. I also Duracoat and just finished a sweet AR build. At the moment I don't have a project so I feel empty inside 😆, I'm ready to get started.
@Jwilliamstech Awesome, got some toys and good knowledge to boot. I’m with you on the hinged triggers, not a fan. Apex does make some solid triggers, different trigger housings in the micro dagger. I’m sure you knew that but a friendly heads up. I love projects too, at least when they’re upgrades and fun to do. Are you planning a full drop in for the micro?
@VPTACTICAL Not sure yet, I know the 43X trigger is a little different and there are dedicated PSA Micro triggers out there. Probably going to .25 cent the bar and other metal-to-metal areas first and maybe a 3.5lb connector. If I can get it smooth enough I'll just get a shoe or bar & shoe. If it's still a trash trigger pull I'll go ahead and get a complete drop-in. Either a Holosun Carry or 407K and a TLR-7 for sure, undecided on the trigger until I do some tinkering 😆.
@Jwilliamstech Nice - I’m sure once you get your hands on it, you’ll have a better feel for what you want. I like the combo that you’re thinking with the optics and trigger upgrade. I did a video on the tactical pontoon trigger and also the eps carry. I’m rocking those on my micro dagger extreme carry, I’ll do some different things with the C-1.
My dagger C1's extractor was literally broken right out of the box. Would not extract whatsoever. I ended up having to replace every single internal with a Glock part, thus negating any savings I had saved in putting it together and leaving me regretting not just getting a 43X MOS slide.
Ouch - that's a bummer man, you didn't want to let them remedy the issue? I understand wanting to fix it yourself or not wanting to deal with the time of sending it back and waiting. Hopefully now its running like a top, despite the issues you were having. Thanks for the feedback - I appreciate the comment and for you being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant!
That's the .micro?? The grip looks long.
@BRAVOVII It’s most certainly the micro lol, the specific model is the C-1. If it was side by side next to the dagger compact, you’d definitely tell a difference. Thanks for the comment and I appreciate you being part of the squad - be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
@VPTACTICAL have you had any experience of how it feels while conceal carrying it vs the compact or full size? I don't have huge hands but not small, and I'm going back and forth between grip sizes. May just bite the bullet and buy the bundle pack that comes with all 3.
@BRAVOVII I prefer carrying the micros given their smaller profile. I don’t mind the compact, full size is a tad bulky unless I’m carrying OWB which is fine in the winter with larger clothing and jackets. I was eyeing that bundle deal, not a bad buy at all. Then you get to choose the slides that match your preference and needs. I hope this helps 🤙🏻🤙🏻.
I don't get the apparent popularity of the Micro with longer barrels and slides that make it not so micro anymore. The appeal for me was 15 rounds 9mm and small and light as possible for cc. I'm sure the cuts help with rise a bit but then the gun is just about as long as other ones
To each their own I suppose, I certainly favor the smaller package of the extreme carry personally at least for EDC. It’s not terribly long like a full size, doesn’t mean I won’t carry it. I just prefer the extreme carry/43x size myself. Having 15 rounds is certainly a plus, especially in such a small package. I appreciate the feedback and comment. Thanks for being part of the squad - be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.
The "Micro e/ longer slide", ie Glock 48, just sits/carries so much better...for me. I carry a G19 size pistol during the winter/cold weather months, often OWB 3-4 O'clock position. Warm (T-Shirt) weather, I prefer Appendix & thinner pistol. The longer (48) slide flattens the pistol better & barrel doesn't dig into me bending over (the 43x does). I also get less print w/ 48. We R all built & move different. I'm 58yrs old, 6', 225lbs & by no means washboard abs...I've got alittle padding but exercise regular & do not have a "gut". Longer slide of G48 may not work for all, just does for me.
@retiredsergeantroefaro4137 I hear you loud and clear, I don’t mind carrying my C-1 even with the added length. It’s still comfortable to me, suppose it depends on your body build and holster setup.
It’s still micro because it’s slimline, substantially slimmer than standard compact guns so they conceal better and more comfortably
Absolutely - you hit the head on the nail, thanks for the comment! 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
Get a ported barrel. You got a potted slide put another 100 to 200 n get less recoil worth it
I agree, although you want the ported barrel to match the slide. If was going to do it I’d buy a matching set slide and barrel. I’ve seen folks destroy their frame because the ports didn’t line up lol. Not a fun experience to say the least.
@@VPTACTICAL tru tru I was thinking of getting the dagger and switching the top for a ported slide and barrel but that’s gonna be pricey because I’m also planning on getting a reddot and holster plus probably sum more rounds
@bobthebuilder1360 You could always get just the frame and then get the slide/barrel you want (ported). The frames have come way down in price from just a few months ago.
@@VPTACTICAL dang I forgot you can just get the frame thanks for reminding me
@bobthebuilder1360 Absolutely, happy to help 🤙🏻🤙🏻.
Holster?
There’s a number of different manufacturers that are making holsters for the micro dagger. I went with CYA SUPPLY, they make some solid stuff and they’re very reasonable pricing wise. I was blown away by their product, purchased one from Amazon. The rest I got direct from them - www.cyasupply.com/collections/palmetto-state-armory-holsters-cya-supply-co
For Appendix carry I really enjoy the Blackhawk Stache (kit). Probs the most comfortable budget rig I've used yet. I use it daily w/ my Glock 48MOS (no light) and sometimes I forget it's even there!
@retiredsergeantroefaro4137 That’s exactly what I want as well, comfort lol. Especially if I’m carrying all day. I’ve been pretty happy with the CYA Supply holsters. I’ll check out to the Blackhawk series as well, thanks for the tip!
@@VPTACTICAL I can look it up but wondering what material the CYA holsters are made of. Kydex (w/o some type of soft/pliable backer) is usually a bit too stiff and uncomfortable for me, Appendix. I believe the Stache uses a softer plastic, w/ some give. Also the "wing" tab (sorry, don't have a better descriptor) and flex spare mag attachment (seen in many other designs as well) distribute the weight, pressure & print VERY well...for me. Typically I'm not a big Blackhawk holster guy BUT the Stache (kit) is a winner in my book & priced right.
@retiredsergeantroefaro4137 To my understanding the CYA Supply products are made from Kydex. You bring up some interesting points, sounds like you found a setup that works well!
lol, it's the Dagger micro.
Dagger micro / micro dagger - to each their own haha 😆
@@VPTACTICALof course. I was just being a douche. It is technically the Dagger Micro, but everyone seems to call it the Micro Dagger. LOL.. It's all good in the hood. Even I have called it the Micro Dagger multiple times. Great video by the way. I finally got my hands on one of these gems and I have 500 rounds thought mine. I had zero malfunctions of any kind so far. I'm hoping PSA has addressed any of the past issues and remedied them. Good luck with yours.
@claytidwell I figured you were just bustin my chops haha. Glad to hear yours is solid, all in all the main issues I had prior have resolved themselves. Like you said hopefully they get all the kinks out and the future ones are on point. Thanks for the kind words and I appreciate you being part of the squad. Be safe and stay vigilant 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸.