“The Bible; an ancient novel full of murder, corruption, homophobia, bestiality, incest, slavery and cruelty. It is often read to children on Sunday.” -Unknown author
People are wicked. Unlike other holy texts, people are presented with all their flaws and weaknesses and it never elevates any humans to demigods or supermen, or offers any way for people to find heaven by their own works. It's very very different than any other ancient religious text.
That's one way to view it. Or it could be seen as a study in human behavior, highlighting our strengths and our weaknesses. Full of examples on both sides, of what to do, and what not to do (as seen from the social dynamics at the time it was written). But then, one would have to have an interest in human psychology, and a good internal compass of human morality in order to be able to make sense of it. The best UA-cam presenter of the Christian perspective is Rev Ed Trevors. The best overall source on God I've found so far, is the Urantia Book... not at all like the Bible. And only for the honest truth seeker.
@@BrianandDiane - Understandable... that's why you'd have to investigate him for yourself. The thing is, it's those who are terrible at their faiths that we hear the most about, especially evangelicals. But, as religion will never disappear (too many of us have had actual spiritual experiences that were fantastic), the wiser course would be to encourage people with a religion to be better at it, so they don't become an awful example of their faith that we hear about on the news. If all Christians were really good at practicing what Jesus taught, no one would have a problem with them. Ed is one of them.
I know it is very difficult to accept that everyone and everything we know most likely does cease to exist entirely eventually, but at least we are all destined to the same fate. No one can escape death, nor can anyone change it.
Is climate change not real because we need to prove it? Is the curvature of the earth not real because we need to prove it? Is what science proves not real because we need to prove it?
The notion that there is a supernatural realm replete with an omnipotent being, angels, demons, and transcendent truths, was preposterous when I was five. It hasn’t aged well.
I’ve lost friends and following, company and companionship, for something that possibly doesn’t even exist, or ever did. Because of some religion in Jewish traditions, Jewish messiah, chosen people, deocide, and diaspora- something I’m born far away from, in another time. Totally helped my place in this violent world.
If God really wants to make contact with us and is all powerfull he would probably show himself to every living human in the same way and in the same time soo there is no doubt and separation.
What makes you think it is about you? Why should he reveal himself to anyone? I just lived through the hundred-year flood in NC. I have no doubt about His power. He changed my world forever.
@@Fighting-Spirit7 Hardly. Gravity and weather are responsible for the flood. These are the things of His power. We are only a small part of it. Now the man from Chattanooga, who somehow traveled to the mountains dragging his crawler backhoe, and somehow found me and my need to get the road across the creek fixed so I could get out of my hollow was sent by God, according to him. Who am I to doubt? It is not like I knew him, or picked up a phone and called him. We were completely cut off for over a week. He just showed up and said God wanted him to do that. He would not even accept payment. And the people of Samaritan's Purse who helped my son when his house was completely flooded were sent by God according to them. The kids running around on four wheelers delivering water, and food were according to them sent by God. Crazy, enthusiastic, disorganized, and absolutely wonderful kids. Food, water, clothing, comfort. And the prevailing theme is this is to those doing it, God's work. I registered with FEMA two weeks ago. Yet to see them. I am commanded by God to love Him with all my heart soul and mind. I therefore acknowledge the power of His universe. But the second thing I am commanded is like unto it. To love my neighbor as myself. I rejoice that I am not alone in taking that commandment seriously. The loaves and fishes have indeed fed the multitude.
Why has god gifted us with hurricanes, mosquitoes and ticks? The only answer that Xians can come up with is: That wretch ate the apple. What a nonsensical answer from the religious cults.
If we're agreed that god doesn't objectively exist, or that the definition of god is in inherently beyond objective assessment, then we're restricted to talking about the field of subjective experience. And that's fine, as long as we're careful to remember that it's subjective only. Also, even subjective experiences have some objective correlate. If, for example, I feel sadness at a memory or when considering some imagined scenario, these feelings are still based on what I've come to understand or internalize from experience of the objective world. Emotions and even sensations can exist without any such correlate, but in that case there's nothing more to be said about them, beyond comments on neurology. A bare emotion is just that. It carries no MEANING. It's interesting, though, that if a bare emotion does arise within us, we seldom leave it alone. Instead, we'll automatically look for something specific to tie it to. If we observe ourselves mindfully, we can even see how we'll try on different memories or stories to find the one which seems to most closely match the emotion. And then we'll explain to ourselves that the story sunmoned the emotion, when it would be more correct to say that the opposite sequence took place. That's a very basic way in which we create meaning. But it's heuristic, imprecise, not entirely reliable. We arrive at quite a few false positive matches that way, because we have a selection bias towards false positives, and yet our sense of conviction can't distinguish between false positives and true positives. Strong convictions do not correlate reliably with objective truth. Wity this sort of cognitive equipment, how can we possibly hope to do better than what evolution has given us? The answer (which we all recognize, as soon as we stop to think about it) is that we practice with abstract reasoning on simple examples until it becomes a habit of thought. And then, when some situation comes along which resembles that habit of thought, we use the sense of recognition we feel in response as a kind of signal to look more closely, to compare again, until a sende of conviction builds that our practice tells us we can rely on. So it's no longer just a sense of conviction, a bare emotion, it's a set of interlocking points of conviction, each based on a practice that we can intentionally review for correctness. Searle has much to say about the nature of consciousness, most of it pretty good in my opinion. But he tends to do what we all do, making consciousness out to be more elaborate and mysterious than it needs to be. Consciousness is the part of thought that can make statements about what it's doing. It's not all of cognition, which we know is largely unconscious. It's just this particular ability. But it allows us to step back very slightly from being fully immersed in subjective experience, and try out various stories about what we're experiencing. The stories are themselves explicit, so we can tell stories in turn about them. This marks a small qualitative change in cognitive ability with huge implications. And, to be honest, we're still not all very good at it. Religious convictions are one result of not being very good at it. Strong convictions do not correlate reliably with objective truth. Religious people believe that they do, and may go so far as to cultivate strong convictions for their own sake.
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I do not subscribe to any of the over 3500 gods, in my personal view they have been made in man’s image. And if any of these gods were real and they have a problem with an Atheist like me, they could always show up, and prove me wrong, but by the look of things I will die waiting, and waiting and …
I don't know if believing in God is a genetic predisposition, but I do understand that belief in life after death or an immortal soul looks to be a genetic predisposition, even into the Neanderthal people. I am not concluding that belief equals a reality. I am just stating that we have a predisposition for believing in things outside the natural world.
@@RandomStuff-i4i Well it's not like I can necessarily disprove every claim that some god or another exists... But there's no reason to think any gods exist.
@@RandomStuff-i4i Well, as the only living authority on myself, I would have to agree with myself. I think I'd tend to know what I believe better than you do. Do you think there is a good reason to think a god exists? I have yet to hear one.
Given how people describe God as being timeless and and spaceless, and existing outside of time, no, he doesn't exist. His very existence is impossible. If God is timeless and exists outside of space and time, then how could his timelessness allow him to exist for a time to create time from timelessness? If God has no physical form and exists as a spiritual form, then he is nothing, and if nothing exists, then he also doesn't exist because he is nothing that exists in nothing as nothing for no amount of time and is able to become something with time from nothingness and timelessness to create something with time from nothing with timelessness. How does that work? 🤔
Does god exist? Well to tell ya the truth there is just nothing that leads me to believe such a thing. I personally think that gods are a human construct but I am willing to change my beliefs in the face of empirical evidence. Thus far the gods have failed to provide any. As for faith, well that just provides belief and does not provide knowledge. I don't want to believe gods exist, I want to know they do, if they do. Only then can I believe. Even if I could believe such a god exists, I could not worship this god. Believing is one thing, worshiping, well that's a whole new ball game. I have spent almost 70 years on this planet trying to be as good and moral a person as I could and if that is not acceptable to a supposedly moral god then I would want nothing to do with it. It would be awfully petty of a god that couldn't get over this belief thing and condemn the good only for the sake they didn't believe. This fact on it's own leads me to believe such a god does not exist. If a god truly wants me to believe it should know what it would take to make that happen in an instant.
Why would anyone believe that a God exists? You look at the history of the universe, the Earth, life, human beings, our societies and civilizations, and conclude this must have all been created for us by some being who cares about us, and is capable of helping and protecting us? That entire concept makes zero sense. Then just look at how humans who believe in a God treat each other and also non-believers Why would anyone want to join that chaos and history of enormous cruelty? As Carl Sagan observed, we must outgrow faith, and overcome religion in order to survive. I wish I were optimistic.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 Please take you mind out of the Bible, and look at the well known history of the Earth, and humanity, including our current state, and ask yourself, where is God? Why is it allowing this to occur? Why so much suffering throughout the entire spectrum of living things? How could a caring, powerful supreme being create this, then demand that we worship it or suffer even worse eternal suffering? It simply defies all reasonable comprehension. Existence itself refutes the very concept of a God that humans should care about or that cares about us.
@@coachafella Hey, Coach: You have asked some profound questions. My responses are below: 1) Why does God allow suffering? As Billy Graham once said: “Suffering carries a message of mystery. And we may never know until God explains all things to us.” Or, as the Bible states: For now, we see as though through a glass darkly. Still, nonbelievers have no real basis with which to question the God’s character, given that they have no objective moral foundation on which to do so. Morality for an atheist is just a matter of opinion. Additionally, when Adam and Eve rebelled against God, sin entered the world, and they were driven out of the Garden to fend for themselves. That's when God told man that life would not be easy, but to take the Earth and subdue it. Subduing the Earth has taken us thousands of years, from invention of the wheel to modern transportation, to landing on the Moon, and to life-saving medicines. We still have further to go, of course. And God promised mankind that in due time, a Savior would take away the sins of the world and man would be reconciled to God. 2) Why would God condemn anyone to eternal suffering? He won’t. Following the resurrection at the End of the Age, all humans will be judged by Jesus Christ. Those whom He condemns will go to what the Bible calls the “second death”. They will cease to exist forever and be forgotten. Meanwhile, those whom Jesus has not condemned will enter into glorious eternal life. 3) You wrote that existence itself refutes the very concept of God. That is not correct. The Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 1:20: “For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.” The phrase “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands” is from Psalm 19:1. It means that the beauty and awe of nature show us the work of God and the existence of God. 4) Finally, I provide examples in my first brief video of scientific facts contained in the Bible; facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by God. And today’s scientists agree with those scientific facts. Thank you again for your important questions. Please let me know if you have any more. Thanks, and take care.
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 You're wasting your time on me. I only ask questions for you to examine your own beliefs, not for you to pretend you are in a position of authority. I see through my own eyes, and base my belief on actual evidence, not on the fallible words of men in an ancient book. You do nothing but quote other sources of text, while totally ignoring the universe of evidence displayed in front of you. Look up the logical fallacy of "confirmation bias". Examine your method for establishing belief. Aspire to being rational and use your own senses to discern reality, instead of relying on someone else to tell you what to believe. Keep seeking with an open mind to all possibilities, and you can also find the truth. Good luck to you.
@@coachafella Hey, Coach: I'll provide here just one of many examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible that today's scientists agree with: The writers of the Books of the Bible lived thousands of years ago and could not have known that the scientific facts they wrote down were true without divine inspiration given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. For example: Moses was an isolated sheepherder who knew absolutely nothing about the geologic history of the Earth, which occurred over billions of years by time as we experience it here on Earth. Yet, Moses wrote correctly in Genesis that during the Earth’s development there was a time when it was totally covered with water and then the dry land appeared in one place (the supercontinent that existed before tectonic plate movement began, of course). Scientists today agree that the Earth was once covered with water and that land initially appeared in one place, just as the Bible says. Here are a few links to scientific sites that agree with the Bible that the Earth was at one time a water world: astronomy.com/news/2020/03/ancient-earth-may-have-been-a-water-world-without-any-dry-land news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/04/harvard-scientists-determine-early-earth-may-have-been-a-water-world/ www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/ancient-earth-was-water-world www.livescience.com/waterworld-earth.html Take care.
Does God Exists? Not a single person on the whole planet knows that. There are a lot of people who believe that God exists but that's not the same as knowing. If we knew that God exists there would be no need for belief or faith anymore.
At the 3:00 mark, we hear that Russell would say to God, " You didn't give us enough evidence." No, he wouldn't and no, he did not. The experience of confronting a mind blowing God, the creator of the universe, would be numbing, disconcerting and disorientating. To think that any human being would stand toe to toe and eye to eye with the omnipotent God is more than risible.
A personal god exists, and that the god who helps you to find your car key or save you when everyone is dying. But a god that could make this world a better place, is doesn't exist... for very obvious and realistic reasons...
In the beginning, there was nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self replicating bits , which then turned into dinosaurs.
To me God is the governing laws of the Universe. So I say God does exist, but it's very different from the personal God that most religions believe in. So is there a God? Yes. Is it an old man in the sky that's watching you 24/7 and judges you or listen to your prayers? No.
The question, "Does God exist?" is irrational and inadequate. My counter-question is, "What do you mean by God?" If you're talking about the gods of religion or a totem deity, or a divine force, then that needs to be clarified. If I were to respond to such a question, I might respond by asking, "How can a nonsentient universe create a sentient being?" Maybe the only "proof" we can have is the realization that we can never disprove the existence of a higher being or power. We're just too small.
Well a non-sentient universe doesn't create a god, a somehow already sentient timeless, spaceless being with no physical form or brain to think with creates something from nothing, which for some reason theists don't realize this while they're pestering scientists for believing something came from nothing when they don't actually believe that.
I'm talking about the creator of the universe, the cause of existence. We know from scientific investigation that the universe hasn't always existed. And we can safely assume it didn't create itself. So the inescapable conclusion is that someone or something outside of time and space did it. It's really not that hard unless you're scrambling to justify a blind emotional faith in pure materialism.
More people should commit to hard atheism for God specifically (that's capital-g God, the name of the god in Christianity), due to the Problem of Evil being a self-contradiction in that being's definition. A being cannot knowingly cause all evil and be "all-good"; they must be at least a little evil if they intentionally create a little evil (and an all-knowing God must have caused all evil knowingly, and causing evil is causing evil whether you kill someone directly or use murder-bots or have even more steps than that between you and the murder; if you know for a fact the person will die because of your action and there is no other major factors causing that death, you're responsible for it). For other gods, the idea is more open ended as he discusses. We can't prove or disprove them, so we shouldn't believe in them. (And to be clear, disproving these ideas is often impossible, like how if Gary shows up in the thread arguing Spirit-Elves exist and caused the universe, nobody can actually disprove their existence. Yet we shouldn't believe in Gary's elves.)
I don't know any hard atheists besides Aron Ra and myself, and maybe the Amazing Atheist. I started off as a soft atheist but after hearing so many good arguments, understanding more about how the universe works and the history of religions, I'm pretty sure one doesn't exist and it's existence is impossible, and the Christian god could oy do what is logically possible as the book says, so he couldn't create something from nothing or exist at all. The people that came up with this nonsense weren't smart enough at the time to go I er everything and make sure there were no flaws in logic with this entity they made up.
@@ShadowveilFox Sure, but again hard atheism is justified specifically for god(s) where we know of those knock-down logic errors (self-contradictions like the Problem of Evil). Those arguments don't universally apply to all gods: they only prove the non-existence of certain ones whose attributes half self-contradictions (or other logic error). So * we know certain gods don't exist, because they contradict themselves. We should be hard atheists of those gods. * that includes God (the god of Christianity) * that doesn't include every god though, so we should only be soft atheists of those other gods (we should still be atheists until someone can demonstrate such a being shares reality with us, of course).
@@majmage No matte what God it is, it an extraordinary claim and a ridiculous one. If there's no evidence for any of them I think it's more reasonable to conclude the entire concept itself should be dismissed as silly and false. How could any of them exist? Which God do we not know anything about? They're all made up by man, maybe some women.
@@ShadowveilFox Dismsising it as ridiculous is fine. It's non-evidenced. But to call it false is a claim "no gods exist", and that takes evidence. It's the lack of evidence of gods that makes the belief ridiculous. Yet you lack evidence no gods exist, and so that belief is also ridiculous (again, except for the gods where we actually do have knock-down arguments; those arguments are the evidence justifying a belief that those specific gods don't exist).
@@majmage Nobody can have evidence that gods don't exist because that's illogical and impossible. You don't need evidence to say a universe pooping fairy doesn't exist, you don't even need evidence against it. You can just say that sounds dumb and obviously doesn't exist. The name itself is ridiculous, just like the concept of a timeless creator or a lightning bolt throwing God.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
@@martingoldfire Hey, Martin: I see that you're not so sure of your beliefs. If you were, you would have dissected the facts in my first brief and humble little video and stated so fact by fact in your reply to be above. Take care.
@@PapaBear-k4k Hey, Papa: If you’d really like to know that God exists, and I assume that you would, there’s an easy way for you to find out for yourself. In the pinned statement below my first video is a suggested prayer for use by atheists and agnostics. The real beauty of the prayer is that you don’t have to believe in God, initially, to make use of the prayer. All that’s required is that you SINCERELY WANT TO KNOW that God exists. If you pray that prayer with sincerity, only you and the God of the Bible will know that you’ve done that. He will reveal Himself to you, most likely in a very unexpected way and place and time. That’s the way it happened to me and to many other Christians. Take care.
Of course, God exists. If anyone says so, it is so. God is the human model and interpretation of the connected universe by faith and perception. Anyone who has ever said "I hope" has uttered the secret universal name of God. To seek a theory of everything is to seek God. Why in the hell else would anyone even care? Name me one physicist who would not accept that if the math fit.
@@Lordidude So... If I disagree with you, and the majority of the responders, and I present my case with the same passion and conviction as you and they do, I am a troll? Ok... I have been called worse.
@johnswoodgadgets9819 "If anyone says god exists, then god must exist". Calling you a troll is doing you a favor. Because no one can be that stupid to say that sincerely.
Silly about does GOD exist. Throughout history it's always been gods. As we know El Elyon and the Elohim, the gods "We created man in our image" the gods were multiple. Isreal made a covenant with El Elyon and each canannite tribe their neighbors made covenants with one of the other Elohim. After the Babylonian exile the elders desperately sought out a monotheistic God. They turned the Elohim into angels and generally changed definitions to get what they wanted. Such does not change reality.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
What if God's just an alien psy op? What if They created us in a lab by splicing a bit of their DNA into some lab apes, thus creating genetically modified apes. And their tiny bit of DNA in us is what gives us creative intelligence, and they created us for their own nefarious reasons and are coming back to take over, under the trojan horse of Christ's Second Coming/Millennial Reign. But that They're NOT God, just a highly advanced species of life. To them we're just meat puppets.
Praise Our Gracious Creator God YWHW. If you would like to accept Jesus as your savior please pray the following prayer. "Lord Jesus, I repent of my sins and surrender my life. Wash me clean. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day for my Victory, I believe that in my heart and make confession with my mouth, that Jesus is my Savior and Lord.
You just don't believe in evidence. There's plenty of facts and evidence pointing to an intelligent creator. Yu are are ignorantly choosing to be an agnostic because you don't want there to be a God.
If there is, where’s your Demonstrable Evidence? All I see is you lying for your make believe fairytale gods! No facts, no evidence! Only continual lies!
A straw unproven argument. No such thing about the so called deity, he is as real as Santa Claus, the Flying Tea 🫖 Cup and Spaghetti 🍝 Monster, no one has seen one, nor has anyone seen any of the 3500 gods claimed by humans throughout history. Made by humans in man’s image and imagination.
“The Bible; an ancient novel full of murder, corruption, homophobia, bestiality, incest, slavery and cruelty. It is often read to children on Sunday.” -Unknown author
Yes. And that tells us who the real "groomers" have been all this time. It's child abuse imo.
People are wicked. Unlike other holy texts, people are presented with all their flaws and weaknesses and it never elevates any humans to demigods or supermen, or offers any way for people to find heaven by their own works.
It's very very different than any other ancient religious text.
That's one way to view it. Or it could be seen as a study in human behavior, highlighting our strengths and our weaknesses. Full of examples on both sides, of what to do, and what not to do (as seen from the social dynamics at the time it was written). But then, one would have to have an interest in human psychology, and a good internal compass of human morality in order to be able to make sense of it.
The best UA-cam presenter of the Christian perspective is Rev Ed Trevors. The best overall source on God I've found so far, is the Urantia Book... not at all like the Bible. And only for the honest truth seeker.
@@ericjohnson6665 the title of "reverend" at the beginning of anyone's name makes me immediately suspicious.
@@BrianandDiane - Understandable... that's why you'd have to investigate him for yourself.
The thing is, it's those who are terrible at their faiths that we hear the most about, especially evangelicals. But, as religion will never disappear (too many of us have had actual spiritual experiences that were fantastic), the wiser course would be to encourage people with a religion to be better at it, so they don't become an awful example of their faith that we hear about on the news. If all Christians were really good at practicing what Jesus taught, no one would have a problem with them. Ed is one of them.
The invisible and the non-existent look remarkably alike.
Hades aka the O.T. Shem (ha Shem), wears a cap that makes him invisible. This made is easy for him to abduct a daughter of Jupiter (Ham)..
@billmactiernan6304
I am invisible and non- existent to you, and I look nothing like what your comment says.
Ask anyone who has seen me.
Wimps exist.
@@RandomStuff-i4i Since you seem to know: Does invisible god wear invisible cloths? Is god a briefs or a boxer guy?
@@billmactiernan6304
I'm invisible to you what am I wearing
Gods will exist as long as humans need them to exist.
My world is all natural - no gods, angels, or demons anywhere.
What caused your world to exist?
I know it is very difficult to accept that everyone and everything we know most likely does cease to exist entirely eventually, but at least we are all destined to the same fate. No one can escape death, nor can anyone change it.
If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence
indeed , everyone would believe in/know God. The concept of believing might not even exist...
Is climate change not real because we need to prove it?
Is the curvature of the earth not real because we need to prove it?
Is what science proves not real because we need to prove it?
if there was a god i would love it to be the greek gods.....they were fun....
God's greatest talent is to hide from us.
The notion that there is a supernatural realm replete with an omnipotent being, angels, demons, and transcendent truths, was preposterous when I was five. It hasn’t aged well.
Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence!
Such as?
@@beaconoftruth1990????
.... said Carl Sagan !
@@patriciadechamps3169 Hitchens I think !!
That's a begging the question fallacy. What's in question is whether the claims are in fact extraordinary.
Which God, there are several?
I’ve lost friends and following, company and companionship, for something that possibly doesn’t even exist, or ever did.
Because of some religion in Jewish traditions, Jewish messiah, chosen people, deocide, and diaspora- something I’m born far away from, in another time.
Totally helped my place in this violent world.
If God really wants to make contact with us and is all powerfull he would probably show himself to every living human in the same way and in the same time soo there is no doubt and separation.
agree 100%
What makes you think it is about you? Why should he reveal himself to anyone? I just lived through the hundred-year flood in NC. I have no doubt about His power. He changed my world forever.
@@johnswoodgadgets9819 I dont get your point, are you saying God is responsible for the flood?
@@Fighting-Spirit7 Hardly. Gravity and weather are responsible for the flood. These are the things of His power. We are only a small part of it. Now the man from Chattanooga, who somehow traveled to the mountains dragging his crawler backhoe, and somehow found me and my need to get the road across the creek fixed so I could get out of my hollow was sent by God, according to him. Who am I to doubt? It is not like I knew him, or picked up a phone and called him. We were completely cut off for over a week. He just showed up and said God wanted him to do that. He would not even accept payment. And the people of Samaritan's Purse who helped my son when his house was completely flooded were sent by God according to them. The kids running around on four wheelers delivering water, and food were according to them sent by God. Crazy, enthusiastic, disorganized, and absolutely wonderful kids. Food, water, clothing, comfort. And the prevailing theme is this is to those doing it, God's work. I registered with FEMA two weeks ago. Yet to see them. I am commanded by God to love Him with all my heart soul and mind. I therefore acknowledge the power of His universe. But the second thing I am commanded is like unto it. To love my neighbor as myself. I rejoice that I am not alone in taking that commandment seriously. The loaves and fishes have indeed fed the multitude.
@@johnswoodgadgets9819 What do you mean,, send by God,,? they probably just belive in God and do good things in his name.
How are we still debating this topic... we should be exploring the magnificence of the universe! 😊
Why has god gifted us with hurricanes, mosquitoes and ticks? The only answer that Xians can come up with is: That wretch ate the apple. What a nonsensical answer from the religious cults.
No, that's not the only answer. Another answer is that there would be no good without bad. That's actually the answer I most commonly hear.
If we're agreed that god doesn't objectively exist, or that the definition of god is in inherently beyond objective assessment, then we're restricted to talking about the field of subjective experience.
And that's fine, as long as we're careful to remember that it's subjective only.
Also, even subjective experiences have some objective correlate. If, for example, I feel sadness at a memory or when considering some imagined scenario, these feelings are still based on what I've come to understand or internalize from experience of the objective world.
Emotions and even sensations can exist without any such correlate, but in that case there's nothing more to be said about them, beyond comments on neurology. A bare emotion is just that. It carries no MEANING.
It's interesting, though, that if a bare emotion does arise within us, we seldom leave it alone. Instead, we'll automatically look for something specific to tie it to. If we observe ourselves mindfully, we can even see how we'll try on different memories or stories to find the one which seems to most closely match the emotion. And then we'll explain to ourselves that the story sunmoned the emotion, when it would be more correct to say that the opposite sequence took place.
That's a very basic way in which we create meaning. But it's heuristic, imprecise, not entirely reliable. We arrive at quite a few false positive matches that way, because we have a selection bias towards false positives, and yet our sense of conviction can't distinguish between false positives and true positives. Strong convictions do not correlate reliably with objective truth.
Wity this sort of cognitive equipment, how can we possibly hope to do better than what evolution has given us? The answer (which we all recognize, as soon as we stop to think about it) is that we practice with abstract reasoning on simple examples until it becomes a habit of thought. And then, when some situation comes along which resembles that habit of thought, we use the sense of recognition we feel in response as a kind of signal to look more closely, to compare again, until a sende of conviction builds that our practice tells us we can rely on. So it's no longer just a sense of conviction, a bare emotion, it's a set of interlocking points of conviction, each based on a practice that we can intentionally review for correctness.
Searle has much to say about the nature of consciousness, most of it pretty good in my opinion. But he tends to do what we all do, making consciousness out to be more elaborate and mysterious than it needs to be.
Consciousness is the part of thought that can make statements about what it's doing. It's not all of cognition, which we know is largely unconscious. It's just this particular ability. But it allows us to step back very slightly from being fully immersed in subjective experience, and try out various stories about what we're experiencing. The stories are themselves explicit, so we can tell stories in turn about them. This marks a small qualitative change in cognitive ability with huge implications.
And, to be honest, we're still not all very good at it. Religious convictions are one result of not being very good at it. Strong convictions do not correlate reliably with objective truth. Religious people believe that they do, and may go so far as to cultivate strong convictions for their own sake.
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When I was in college majoring in psychology, one of the biggest jokes we had among ourselves was to kid about degrees in philosophy! It was a joke then and it's a joke now😅😅😅
Which school of psychology do you adhere to?
philosophy... the art of asking questions without providing any answers...
Mel Brooks on Philosophy
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I do not subscribe to any of the over 3500 gods, in my personal view they have been made in man’s image.
And if any of these gods were real and they have a problem with an Atheist like me, they could always show up, and prove me wrong, but by the look of things I will die waiting, and waiting and …
God is a mumbo jumbo word invented by priests to scare people. But Godliness, the force that surges through everything, certainly exists.
The world is full of irrational people.
If God Existed, Everyone would know it, and it is obvious that no one can see God. Gods. Goddesses.
The Speaker of the House has spoken to God.
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He also writes to Santa every Christmas, still waiting for a answer from him 🤡
@mortyharenza9854 he's clearly mental.
People also wouldn't need faith, but since there's no evidence he exists, they need to pretend with faith.
If God existed, why would everyone know it?
I don't know if believing in God is a genetic predisposition, but I do understand that belief in life after death or an immortal soul looks to be a genetic predisposition, even into the Neanderthal people.
I am not concluding that belief equals a reality. I am just stating that we have a predisposition for believing in things outside the natural world.
Almost certainly not.
Which one is it
Almost or certainly
@@RandomStuff-i4i Well it's not like I can necessarily disprove every claim that some god or another exists... But there's no reason to think any gods exist.
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I almost certainly don't believe you believe that
@@RandomStuff-i4i Well, as the only living authority on myself, I would have to agree with myself. I think I'd tend to know what I believe better than you do.
Do you think there is a good reason to think a god exists? I have yet to hear one.
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I have a good reason to know God exists but you won't believe it because you already have your mind set God doesn't exist.
What’s the music in this? I really like it
Given how people describe God as being timeless and and spaceless, and existing outside of time, no, he doesn't exist. His very existence is impossible. If God is timeless and exists outside of space and time, then how could his timelessness allow him to exist for a time to create time from timelessness? If God has no physical form and exists as a spiritual form, then he is nothing, and if nothing exists, then he also doesn't exist because he is nothing that exists in nothing as nothing for no amount of time and is able to become something with time from nothingness and timelessness to create something with time from nothing with timelessness. How does that work? 🤔
Does god exist? Well to tell ya the truth there is just nothing that leads me to believe such a thing. I personally think that gods are a human construct but I am willing to change my beliefs in the face of empirical evidence. Thus far the gods have failed to provide any. As for faith, well that just provides belief and does not provide knowledge. I don't want to believe gods exist, I want to know they do, if they do. Only then can I believe.
Even if I could believe such a god exists, I could not worship this god. Believing is one thing, worshiping, well that's a whole new ball game. I have spent almost 70 years on this planet trying to be as good and moral a person as I could and if that is not acceptable to a supposedly moral god then I would want nothing to do with it. It would be awfully petty of a god that couldn't get over this belief thing and condemn the good only for the sake they didn't believe. This fact on it's own leads me to believe such a god does not exist. If a god truly wants me to believe it should know what it would take to make that happen in an instant.
Why would anyone believe that a God exists? You look at the history of the universe, the Earth, life, human beings, our societies and civilizations, and conclude this must have all been created for us by some being who cares about us, and is capable of helping and protecting us? That entire concept makes zero sense. Then just look at how humans who believe in a God treat each other and also non-believers Why would anyone want to join that chaos and history of enormous cruelty? As Carl Sagan observed, we must outgrow faith, and overcome religion in order to survive. I wish I were optimistic.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 Please take you mind out of the Bible, and look at the well known history of the Earth, and humanity, including our current state, and ask yourself, where is God? Why is it allowing this to occur? Why so much suffering throughout the entire spectrum of living things? How could a caring, powerful supreme being create this, then demand that we worship it or suffer even worse eternal suffering? It simply defies all reasonable comprehension. Existence itself refutes the very concept of a God that humans should care about or that cares about us.
@@coachafella Hey, Coach: You have asked some profound questions. My responses are below:
1) Why does God allow suffering? As Billy Graham once said: “Suffering carries a message of mystery. And we may never know until God explains all things to us.” Or, as the Bible states: For now, we see as though through a glass darkly. Still, nonbelievers have no real basis with which to question the God’s character, given that they have no objective moral foundation on which to do so. Morality for an atheist is just a matter of opinion. Additionally, when Adam and Eve rebelled against God, sin entered the world, and they were driven out of the Garden to fend for themselves. That's when God told man that life would not be easy, but to take the Earth and subdue it. Subduing the Earth has taken us thousands of years, from invention of the wheel to modern transportation, to landing on the Moon, and to life-saving medicines. We still have further to go, of course. And God promised mankind that in due time, a Savior would take away the sins of the world and man would be reconciled to God.
2) Why would God condemn anyone to eternal suffering? He won’t. Following the resurrection at the End of the Age, all humans will be judged by Jesus Christ. Those whom He condemns will go to what the Bible calls the “second death”. They will cease to exist forever and be forgotten. Meanwhile, those whom Jesus has not condemned will enter into glorious eternal life.
3) You wrote that existence itself refutes the very concept of God. That is not correct. The Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 1:20: “For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.” The phrase “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands” is from Psalm 19:1. It means that the beauty and awe of nature show us the work of God and the existence of God.
4) Finally, I provide examples in my first brief video of scientific facts contained in the Bible; facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by God. And today’s scientists agree with those scientific facts.
Thank you again for your important questions. Please let me know if you have any more. Thanks, and take care.
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 You're wasting your time on me. I only ask questions for you to examine your own beliefs, not for you to pretend you are in a position of authority. I see through my own eyes, and base my belief on actual evidence, not on the fallible words of men in an ancient book. You do nothing but quote other sources of text, while totally ignoring the universe of evidence displayed in front of you. Look up the logical fallacy of "confirmation bias". Examine your method for establishing belief. Aspire to being rational and use your own senses to discern reality, instead of relying on someone else to tell you what to believe. Keep seeking with an open mind to all possibilities, and you can also find the truth. Good luck to you.
@@coachafella Hey, Coach: I'll provide here just one of many examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible that today's scientists agree with:
The writers of the Books of the Bible lived thousands of years ago and could not have known that the scientific facts they wrote down were true without divine inspiration given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible.
For example: Moses was an isolated sheepherder who knew absolutely nothing about the geologic history of the Earth, which occurred over billions of years by time as we experience it here on Earth.
Yet, Moses wrote correctly in Genesis that during the Earth’s development there was a time when it was totally covered with water and then the dry land appeared in one place (the supercontinent that existed before tectonic plate movement began, of course).
Scientists today agree that the Earth was once covered with water and that land initially appeared in one place, just as the Bible says.
Here are a few links to scientific sites that agree with the Bible that the Earth was at one time a water world:
astronomy.com/news/2020/03/ancient-earth-may-have-been-a-water-world-without-any-dry-land
news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/04/harvard-scientists-determine-early-earth-may-have-been-a-water-world/
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/ancient-earth-was-water-world
www.livescience.com/waterworld-earth.html
Take care.
Do square circles exist?
So according to you a god exists too if you forget to put your glasses on?
Does God Exists? Not a single person on the whole planet knows that. There are a lot of people who believe that God exists but that's not the same as knowing. If we knew that God exists there would be no need for belief or faith anymore.
This is great, but it is borrowed from CLOSER TO TRUTH (PBS show and now a podcast).
No.... Now go outside and play.
Hey. Good stuff. But the captions are not accurate. They seem to be computer voice to speech.
Of course not. Next question.
At the 3:00 mark, we hear that Russell would say to God, " You didn't give us enough evidence." No, he wouldn't and no, he did not. The experience of confronting a mind blowing God, the creator of the universe, would be numbing, disconcerting and disorientating. To think that any human being would stand toe to toe and eye to eye with the omnipotent God is more than risible.
A personal god exists, and that the god who helps you to find your car key or save you when everyone is dying. But a god that could make this world a better place, is doesn't exist... for very obvious and realistic reasons...
In the beginning, there was nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self replicating bits , which then turned into dinosaurs.
Who created god?
To me God is the governing laws of the Universe. So I say God does exist, but it's very different from the personal God that most religions believe in.
So is there a God? Yes. Is it an old man in the sky that's watching you 24/7 and judges you or listen to your prayers? No.
Why call it god if we already have a word (Universe)?
atheist podcast - Does God exist? No (end of podcast) hahahahahahaha
Darwin did exist, end of discussion
I never met Darwin so to me he didn't exist.
@@RandomStuff-i4iif a child never met the dad, does the dad exist?.
@@RandomStuff-i4iNor have I ever met or seen any of the more than 3500 gods, so to me they don’t exist either.
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I've never met or seen those 3500 gods either so you're right
Those don't exist.
You are correct.
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Let's go ask some kids who have never met their dad's that question.
Or, we could go read some headstones.
Wrong question... Try "Can the HYPOTHESIS OF GOD be valid?"
No proof yet!
The question, "Does God exist?" is irrational and inadequate. My counter-question is, "What do you mean by God?" If you're talking about the gods of religion or a totem deity, or a divine force, then that needs to be clarified. If I were to respond to such a question, I might respond by asking, "How can a nonsentient universe create a sentient being?" Maybe the only "proof" we can have is the realization that we can never disprove the existence of a higher being or power. We're just too small.
You can't disprove the boogeyman under your bed. So what?
Can you explain why a kid puts a pulled tooth under his pillow and later on finds a quarter in the same place but the tooth is gone.
Well a non-sentient universe doesn't create a god, a somehow already sentient timeless, spaceless being with no physical form or brain to think with creates something from nothing, which for some reason theists don't realize this while they're pestering scientists for believing something came from nothing when they don't actually believe that.
I'm talking about the creator of the universe, the cause of existence.
We know from scientific investigation that the universe hasn't always existed. And we can safely assume it didn't create itself. So the inescapable conclusion is that someone or something outside of time and space did it.
It's really not that hard unless you're scrambling to justify a blind emotional faith in pure materialism.
@@PapaBear-k4k Tell me where you heard science confirm the universe was created?
Sure... Otherwise, the world's "Gimme da Money and you'll live Forever" freeloaders would have to get real jobs...
More people should commit to hard atheism for God specifically (that's capital-g God, the name of the god in Christianity), due to the Problem of Evil being a self-contradiction in that being's definition. A being cannot knowingly cause all evil and be "all-good"; they must be at least a little evil if they intentionally create a little evil (and an all-knowing God must have caused all evil knowingly, and causing evil is causing evil whether you kill someone directly or use murder-bots or have even more steps than that between you and the murder; if you know for a fact the person will die because of your action and there is no other major factors causing that death, you're responsible for it).
For other gods, the idea is more open ended as he discusses. We can't prove or disprove them, so we shouldn't believe in them. (And to be clear, disproving these ideas is often impossible, like how if Gary shows up in the thread arguing Spirit-Elves exist and caused the universe, nobody can actually disprove their existence. Yet we shouldn't believe in Gary's elves.)
I don't know any hard atheists besides Aron Ra and myself, and maybe the Amazing Atheist. I started off as a soft atheist but after hearing so many good arguments, understanding more about how the universe works and the history of religions, I'm pretty sure one doesn't exist and it's existence is impossible, and the Christian god could oy do what is logically possible as the book says, so he couldn't create something from nothing or exist at all. The people that came up with this nonsense weren't smart enough at the time to go I er everything and make sure there were no flaws in logic with this entity they made up.
@@ShadowveilFox Sure, but again hard atheism is justified specifically for god(s) where we know of those knock-down logic errors (self-contradictions like the Problem of Evil).
Those arguments don't universally apply to all gods: they only prove the non-existence of certain ones whose attributes half self-contradictions (or other logic error).
So
* we know certain gods don't exist, because they contradict themselves. We should be hard atheists of those gods.
* that includes God (the god of Christianity)
* that doesn't include every god though, so we should only be soft atheists of those other gods (we should still be atheists until someone can demonstrate such a being shares reality with us, of course).
@@majmage No matte what God it is, it an extraordinary claim and a ridiculous one. If there's no evidence for any of them I think it's more reasonable to conclude the entire concept itself should be dismissed as silly and false. How could any of them exist? Which God do we not know anything about? They're all made up by man, maybe some women.
@@ShadowveilFox Dismsising it as ridiculous is fine. It's non-evidenced.
But to call it false is a claim "no gods exist", and that takes evidence.
It's the lack of evidence of gods that makes the belief ridiculous.
Yet you lack evidence no gods exist, and so that belief is also ridiculous (again, except for the gods where we actually do have knock-down arguments; those arguments are the evidence justifying a belief that those specific gods don't exist).
@@majmage Nobody can have evidence that gods don't exist because that's illogical and impossible. You don't need evidence to say a universe pooping fairy doesn't exist, you don't even need evidence against it. You can just say that sounds dumb and obviously doesn't exist. The name itself is ridiculous, just like the concept of a timeless creator or a lightning bolt throwing God.
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Does A god exist? Correct answer: Nobody knows. Does God, as in Jehova, exist? Correct answer: No, and that is a fact proven beyond any doubt.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 How much is the rent for the vacancy between your ears?
But seriously, grow up, evil Santa isn't real.
A proven fact? That's a big claim.
Go ahead and prove your claim.
@@martingoldfire Hey, Martin: I see that you're not so sure of your beliefs. If you were, you would have dissected the facts in my first brief and humble little video and stated so fact by fact in your reply to be above.
Take care.
@@PapaBear-k4k Hey, Papa: If you’d really like to know that God exists, and I assume that you would, there’s an easy way for you to find out for yourself. In the pinned statement below my first video is a suggested prayer for use by atheists and agnostics.
The real beauty of the prayer is that you don’t have to believe in God, initially, to make use of the prayer. All that’s required is that you SINCERELY WANT TO KNOW that God exists.
If you pray that prayer with sincerity, only you and the God of the Bible will know that you’ve done that. He will reveal Himself to you, most likely in a very unexpected way and place and time.
That’s the way it happened to me and to many other Christians.
Take care.
Did god have a wife?
Of course, God exists. If anyone says so, it is so. God is the human model and interpretation of the connected universe by faith and perception. Anyone who has ever said "I hope" has uttered the secret universal name of God. To seek a theory of everything is to seek God. Why in the hell else would anyone even care? Name me one physicist who would not accept that if the math fit.
You must be a troll lmao. Good one.
@@Lordidude So... If I disagree with you, and the majority of the responders, and I present my case with the same passion and conviction as you and they do, I am a troll? Ok... I have been called worse.
@johnswoodgadgets9819 "If anyone says god exists, then god must exist".
Calling you a troll is doing you a favor. Because no one can be that stupid to say that sincerely.
NO! End of.
Silly about does GOD exist. Throughout history it's always been gods. As we know El Elyon and the Elohim, the gods "We created man in our image" the gods were multiple. Isreal made a covenant with El Elyon and each canannite tribe their neighbors made covenants with one of the other Elohim. After the Babylonian exile the elders desperately sought out a monotheistic God. They turned the Elohim into angels and generally changed definitions to get what they wanted. Such does not change reality.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
All god has to do is stick his head out of the sky and say “Hey, I’m up here, so quit killing each other!”. Then I’d believe.
What if God's just an alien psy op? What if They created us in a lab by splicing a bit of their DNA into some lab apes, thus creating genetically modified apes. And their tiny bit of DNA in us is what gives us creative intelligence, and they created us for their own nefarious reasons and are coming back to take over, under the trojan horse of Christ's Second Coming/Millennial Reign. But that They're NOT God, just a highly advanced species of life. To them we're just meat puppets.
God gave us the instructions by which we should live and to enter eternal life .
Which god?
Praise Our Gracious Creator God YWHW. If you would like to accept Jesus as your savior please pray the following prayer. "Lord Jesus, I repent of my sins and surrender my life. Wash me clean. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day for my Victory, I believe that in my heart and make confession with my mouth, that Jesus is my Savior and Lord.
Please keep watching these videos. You need them the most to free yourself.
Which make believe creator out of the thousands? You believe in fairytales! The Bible is myth!
You just don't believe in evidence. There's plenty of facts and evidence pointing to an intelligent creator. Yu are are ignorantly choosing to be an agnostic because you don't want there to be a God.
If there is, where’s your Demonstrable Evidence? All I see is you lying for your make believe fairytale gods!
No facts, no evidence! Only continual lies!
There is enough circumstantial evidence to prove God's existence.
If you are poor at reasoning then I guess any fictional being can be real to someone. Like a mental disorder.
There is ZERO evidence any god/gods exist.
A straw unproven argument.
No such thing about the so called deity, he is as real as Santa Claus, the Flying Tea 🫖 Cup and Spaghetti 🍝 Monster, no one has seen one, nor has anyone seen any of the 3500 gods claimed by humans throughout history.
Made by humans in man’s image and imagination.
Which God?
@@deanodog3667 The holy one of Israel.