This is a compilation of my first two red dead iceberg videos and four more parts of new content which I added to this video. Here are some good UA-camrs who went more in-depth on a lot of these topics. www.youtube.com/@Fizhy/videos www.youtube.com/@Waxyyy/videos www.youtube.com/@StrangeManChannel www.youtube.com/@FilbeeGaming/videos
i can tell you a bit about some stuff mentioned in the video, great stuff by the way(spoilers for movies the revenant and shawshank redemption here) the hunter with the dead bear is a refference to a leonardo de caprio movie called the revenant witch is loosely based on a real guy called hugh glass, and the gold in beachers hope, its a refference to the ending movie shawshank redemption with the stone material leading up towards the tree like in the movie, when you help a stranger woman dont remember her name (its been years since i last played the game) but she talks about a girl who isnt allowed to leave her house and you can see her a bit in the window and many believe or theorize this is the girl who went missing from that royal family it could also be a over protective father but its an interesting theory non the less its the one with the emerald ranch , by the way if you shoot that k member you get some good honor points, you missed the roanoke echo/voice of a girl its not to be confused with the ghost girl, basically in the forest they be echoes of a girl saying we need to get out of here or we need to hide i dont remember the quotes exactly but its a creepy easter egg witch yes it is a obvious refference to the roanoke colony irl, what music did you use during the video ive never heard it before? also the chubracpra was a rumored animal in the base game of rdr 1 and they added it in undead nightmare
There is evidence from Rockstar that Abigail could be the rat. When Dutch and Arthur are following the old woman through the tunnel in Guarma, Dutch suggests he is questioning why John was the only one captured alive after the Saint Denis heist, and how Abigail also wasnt captured and dealt with alongside Hosea when they were supposed to be together. Abigail could have struck a deal that John was kept alive and not treated like the rest, as Lenny, Hosea, and the rest were shot at by the Lawmen. Considering the events of RDR1, the fact that Abigail is again in custody with the Government, whilst John is sent out to legitimately do the work of the Government tracking down his former friends is in line with this theory. Consider that perhaps Molly and Micah truly were informants, and both of them were taken out by the gang before Dutch was brought to justice. The Pinkertons - eventually becoming the Goverment - must have become fed up by this, and resorted to fully detaining their other informant - Abigail - and leveraging her and Jack over John, to force him into physically doing their bidding throughout RDR1.
Honestly I think people like the "Uncle is Red Harlow" theory because they just love the idea that their favorite terminal lumbago patient was a legendary badass at some point.
Something to add to the Princess Isabeau entry, there is an unused adult model of her in the game files, which suggests that there may be a cut questline where you could actually find her and end the mystery. About the corpse with the tiny arm, there may be a connection to Archibald MacGregor, who tells about his uncle with a small arm, but the correlation is not certain. Also, the reason why people think that Alma Horlick is a ghost, is that in Undead Nightmare her grave states that she died in 1911, but the stranger mission can be done in 1914 as Jack Marston. But truly it's most likely just an oversight.
Me and my friend actually talked to Roger Clark at Greenville Comic Con in SC last year in April. We asked about the whole Princess thing and he told us that he actually did record voice lines and such for the quest and said Arthur did eventually find her, but she had lost her memories. He didn't get too specific but the quest was left unfinished outside of unreleased voice lines and her adult model being made.
@@songokuehhh5492that’s so cool! There is uncut voice lines of her talking to Arthur so she was suppose to be a canon mission that you need to help her as Arthur and I think a second person comes involved too to help her along with Arthur during the mission
I'm a pretty hardcore Rdr fan and I've seen a LOT of Icebergs, but I hadn't even heard of some of these, really makes you think if there's stuff we haven't even scratched the surface of.
How do people get the search files you would think that rockstar wouldn’t want you searching in their files especially when you find all the unfinished content. How does that work? I’m pretty sure it’s on PC or can I do it? I’m PlayStation five also also very good job making this video I watch the whole thing, thank you I’m about to get on red dead in a few. I have a lot more knowledge of this game now thank you so much for the video and your hard work. Great job.
@@josephobuck5409 I feel like a dinosaur for having a PS3. It's my favorite PlayStation console, because with a PS3 and a PS5, you can play pretty much every PlayStation game ever.
It's so depressing what happened to Tommy after the fight. I know he wasn't a paragon of good before, but seeing him just be a husk of a person is... sad. You can talk to several people who tell Arthur that he really messed up Tommy. It's also scary that stuff like that happens IRL too. People get into a fight and get knocked on the head, then boom. You're an entirely different person for the rest of your life. The brain is a fickle thing.
The mind is extremely resilient but also incredibly fragile, just takes the exact things happening at the right or wrong time for for it to go haywire, it sucks when your normally a strong individual then something happens and nobody will believe you unless it’s visible,I got savagely beat at 2 years old and now I’ve got cptsd and other issues and nobody believes it’s as bad as I say so I just don’t express what I’m goin through anymore
I think what Rockstar did so well with Red Dead (and specifically RDR2) is how they integrated the spooky/supernatural elements without ramming them down your throat and ruining the atmosphere. The old west was a spooky time, but I'm glad they didn't go too overboard with it and I hope they take a similar approach with GTA as apposed to having a ghost on every street corner and aliens everywhere or something else pandering like that.
@JFTSwiertz for sure. And we saw how Rockstar's appearances for ghosts has changed since GTA 5 and RDR2. Jolene Cranley is like this flat texture while the Lemoyne ghost (I think that's where she is?) is anything but lol
I think when they both say 'horrible business' along with the scratched out faces around some of the pictures proves it.. plus if you don't let yourself get drugged during the dinner and leave you can go back a other day and you can listen to bray write a letter to his 'dead mother' oh yeah they defo offed them
Imagery of nature depending on your honour is everywhere in read dead 2. There's a shack in Bayou Nwa with paintings, if you have high honour there will be bucks and eagles, if you have low honour you'll see wolves and coyotes
Also i think your honor affects the weather in the game. Just completed a low honor playthrough and it rained all.the.damn.time. Also there was more random gang and animal attacks (especially wolves).
@@narcissa6581I think that’s just luck. I purposely tanked my honor and basically played as the most awful version of Arthur possible, being at the lowest for 80% of the playthrough and I don’t have any of those issues
@@narcissa6581this i think was confirmed to be true and I’ve definitely experienced it. But the latter part of the game also has worse weather anyway. The environment is used in an incredible way throughout this game to convey the honour as well as the overall mood of the main character and the gang during specific times
In regards to the ghost train, I'm pretty sure it only triggers once, at 3am on the in-game clock. It's not a matter of spawn chance, it's just a matter of going there and the right time of day.
29:26 In RDR1 Uncle was voiced by a guy named Spider Madison. Madison is actually a really mysterious guy and no one at Rockstar or any of the other voice cast knows what happened to him after production of the first RDR ended. He basically dropped off the face of the earth. It's literally not even known if he's still alive or not. Anyway, John O'creagh was actually the initial actor cast for Uncle in RDR2. Unfortunately he passed away in 2016 and didn't get to finish his work on the game, leading him to be replaced by James McBride. However, some of O'creagh's performance still exists in the final game. Whenever Uncle sings in camp it's in O'creagh's voice.
St Denis is a reference to St. Denis of Paris. He was Christian Priest of Paris in the 3rd century who was a Christian martyr. He was beheaded as is said to have carried his own head back on a horse to where his grave is today.
So the Tommy entry, you can absolutely get beaten into that lvl of mental degradation, it's called a tbi (traumatic brain injury.) and it can be as mild as headaches and insomnia, to being a total vegetable or reverting to basically being a child mentally. 😢 (My fiance works in a home that's specifically tbi patients. It's very sad, life can be wrecked in a second.)
19:27 all 4 horses of the apocalypse and the chupacabra are both obtainable before the end of undead nightmare, it’s just incredibly hard as fuck and involves lucky spawning, I ran across the map and back multiple times for 2/3 hours before I got death to spawn after finding the other 3, the unicorn was even more frustrating
The Gavin character is a rooster teeth Easter egg. They had a running joke where Gavin Free was never to be found at their offices due to his other projects. There are at least two RT members in the game as well, Geoff is voicing mail clerk, and Jack Patillo is voicing hotel clerk!
But doesn’t he mention an emerald? And we get an emerald from Margaret? Like yeah it’s a reference/easter egg but I personally theorize it was meant to lead to more but became cut content instead Maybe a “Gavin” could be found in Guarma and you can trade the emerald for something
I think the civil war soldier thinking the war is still going is likely a reference to the real event where there was a Japanese soldier who protected his post for 30 years before his commander finally went to tell him to stop. Hiroo Onoda, was his name if you are curious about the whole thing
Saying micah doesn’t seem like a character who would SA someone is laughable due to all the Karan scenes but I agree that I don’t think he did anything sexual to Jack
@charissimpson235 they're the same universe because Francis is part of the episilom group and he exists in rdr2 also jack Marston book is in franking house
@@lucidhuffleThe group existed in the 3d and HD universe as well though ,so this doesnt necessarly mean its one universe. Although i think nothing speaks really against all these games being one universe,so i dont get why they make them all seperate.
The amounts of so-called "fans" I keep seeing in the comments. Anyone who has done a little bit of research on the subject knows that Francis Sinclair is completely unrelated to Epsilon and that the Red Dead book is not the only easter egg book in GTA 5, there are more easter eggs like that.
The night folk are probably a reference to the original zombie They like next to lagras and those little afro-american settlements in lemoyne The concept of zombies came from Haitian folklore with influence of african religious customs It would be basically a half-dead or undead slave created by magic. characterized by dark skin, white paiting on the face, clouded eyes(that is basically a perfect description of the night folk) They would have Difficulty to communicate too, and that's another thing that they share with the night folk And a curious fact. The word "zombie" originated from africa aswell. And would mean something in the lines of "warrior" Here in Brazil, the greatest historical figure representing the fight against slavery was a slave called Zumbi dos Palmares. which is literally "Zombie of Palmares(the name of a community of fugitive slaves)
@@RedDeadTierLists its added first in the story mode for the pc version of RDR2 (plus the m1899 pistol, a few new horses and new side missions as well), then all these were released in consoles later on
I think that the guy with the tiny arm is probably deputy archibald’s father beacuse of this line of dialogue:”he had child’s hand on the end of a grown man’s arm”
The giant skeletons in RDR2 are a reference to the urban legend of 'giant skeletons', sometimes with horns, allegedly found in (fill in the state/territory here) in the 19th century, and supposedly hidden somewhere in the depths of the Smithsonian, because 'they' don't want the public to know.
I really like how you take the grim themes of the iceberg and instead of forcing a very "spooky" tone you stay close to your normal speaking voice and weigh the legitimacy of the mysteries. Makes it a lot more bearable and in a way is more respectful to the developers then the annoying creepypasta tones of other rdr videos
This biggest thing that people might want to look into about nigel gavin. I know nigel is looking for gavin in rhodes but theres one particular mission i think kinda got over seen which is when arthur first has a ln attack and lead to the doctor, in my first playthrough i swore to go the dude who lead you to the doc in ST. denis was nigel. They could've used anyone but in my reasoning, that character was the only one who actually kinda stands out from the rest of the NPC's in st. Denis.
12:58 i’m pretty sure there was going to be another town up there called wolfs creek, hosea mentions it when you go hunting in chapter 2 and i think it’s mentioned a couple other times
The gold at beechers hope is a reference to shawshank redemption where at the last scene the protagonists friend finds money left for him under a rock wall next to a tree that is identical to the one on the great plains
Explosive riffle was a weapon in the original red dead redemption 1 multiplayer (I think it was a dlc). I just remember being able to pick it up after doing a mission online and how it would bring terror 😂
Hey man, great vid. Would just say you might wanna use a script. Sometimes you would ramble or your sentences wouldn’t make sense. Loved all the content and hope you keep growing!
Hey there, you’ve got loads of good and interesting things to say and I enjoy the video but I really think you’d benefit from a script. I find now and then you were repeating the same things or just not properly articulating what you were trying to say.
Something to add in the beginning of the epilog in rdr1 undead nightmare Theres a scene where abraham Reyes goes back in the tombs and takes the aztec mask again thats the reason why john is a zombie in the prolouge 😅
Recently played RDR1 recently and read the newspapers and in those newspapers there are articles about Tumbleweed being haunted. Although you can never find or see anything to prove that it is implied it is haunted!
Fun fact- in the aberdeen house right after you kill the siblings, based on your honor youll find an animal upstairs in their bedroom. If you have high honor it's a deer and if your honor is low it's a black coyote
The only reason I like to believe uncle is red harlow is not only because the whole time you know uncle he is physically stunted so the idea that he was badass mixed with paying homage to the actor himself, he is most definitely not canonically not red Harlow but I am okay with being ignorant when it comes to this specifically lol
About the Evans Repeater. I don't know if this has been said already, but the iceberg entry is actually about it's reload speed, which is insanely fast, even compared to the other guns in the game, unlike the real life counterpart which was notoriously slow to reload. And another thing, the Evans is one of, if not the best repeater in the game unlike the real-life one once again, which was needlessly complicated, and had sub-par performance(accuracy etc.) compared to the litchfield and lancaster repeater's real life equivalents(I forgot their names) I love the Evans for it's quirkiness though.
Great ice-burg man, I hate to admit it but I have 1,300 hours on Red Dead 2, lol, so I thought I would know most of these. There is alot of stuff in here I didn't know, I can tell you did your research. Great video man!
You can get all mythical horses before beating Undead Nightmare’s campaign.. you just gotta know where to look 🧐 I always do it everytime I replay Undead Nightmare.
30:19 you do know that Roanoke Ridge is largely based off of the Roanoke region in North Carolina, right? That's not "far west", it's literally just about as Eastward as you can go in North America. Also at 1:24:08 Micah has said "whats the point in having a bunch of girls back at camp when they won't even fuck you if you put a gun to their head?". He definitely IS the SA type of character, just likely not one that targets children. So much of this video shows a blatant lack of knowledge and understanding about this game to the point it hurts.
@@txicsRNG nah, bc people that have this much knowledge about the game don't make the icebergs, since we feel like most everything on it is common knowledge. It takes these low IQ individuals to take shit that's surface level and pretend it's mysterious and strange to make this type of content.
Something to add to the Undead Nightmare part was that in a shop, I can’t remember which town, you can see the green mask you had to use in undead nightmare to stop the zombies, it’s just sitting there on a shelf
29:00 in that town theres also a small brick building thats supposed to be a jail, theres 2 dead prisoners inside and i dont know if this was a glitch or something but when i left the area and came back less than 1 in game day later the bodies where gone.
19:45 i remember when i played red dead for the first time i found one of the bodies in valentine, got super irrationally scared because for some reason i was expecting an ambush (night folk trauma before i even got there i guess xd) and then ended up accidentally finding his hiding place because i was looking for cigarette cards...was way scarier at first honestly haha
something about how this dude talks just makes this hard to listen to. Not his voice or anything but the cadence and choice of word or something “and just because abigail was a prostitute before she was a member of the gang and like while she was a member of the gang she was like sleeping with the other members of the gang before she met John really” Idk what it is if it’s extra words or just sounds like a continuous run on sentence. Anyone else hear this ?
4:12 you didn’t mention the explosive rifle from RDR 1 which was available online and in single player.. it would obliterate a target if hit directly, turning them into a red mist or they would be killed but a shockwave if close enough. There was a glitch to shoot it rapid fire online that people would do. Only old head will remember that haha.. good times..
@@RedDeadTierLists lol I’m rereading my comment I came off rude now that I read it. My bad, it’s all good :).. explosive rifle was crazy back then. I used to always carry one on me if I was playing solo online. That was a way to keep big posses off of you when you had a bounty.. I miss it. RDR II explosives rounds are no fun compared to RDR I explosive rifle..
My favorite thing about this video is all the times you go, “I don’t really see it” or “I don’t think it works” truly was a great tidbit to add on an iceberg video!
Technically, Arthur have 2 Spirit animals for each Honour (for representation of Earth and Sky), Buck and Eagle for high, Coyote and Condor for low.... some scene where he update his journal, other than the Buck and Coyote. It shows the Eagle or Condor
enjoyed the video but some tips for next time. 1. Write a script so you dont stumble over your words so much 2. Research the topics a lil more 3. Dont forget to have fun making your content!
The Calanders weren't "like Micah". Arthur, Hosea and Javier and even Mary-Beth, speak of them fondly of them. Arthur even says "I gonna miss those boys" to Hosea. From What I could extrapolate, Mac was the older brother, and Arthur seemed to have a pretty strong bond with him in particular, judging from his reaction when Milton tells him he killed Mac.
The whole buck and wolf/coyote thing was a pretty neat thing to include, i was always wondering why the wolf kept showing up on my first ever playthrough not really realising about the whole honor thing, glad im now starting to see the buck this playthrough
Im 2 months late but i know that Karen Jones did unfortunately pass away because the actress had said something about her passing because she drank herself to death but she wants to imagine that shes still alive even though she is not. I could not find the letter of what it said but its probably on Twitter/X or instagram somwhere, im not sure where ive seen it before, but now i cant find it. Sorry! Love the content and the Iceberg Tier List for Red Dead Redemption 2. Keep up the great work bro.
The guy that you give alcohol to in 1:10:23 actually doesn’t die I had this same encounter and he fell over in his chair and you could hear him snoring
29:22 I definitely believe Cornwall did it because when looking for Dino Fossils you can find a letter of a man around Fossil #1 implying Cornwall took over the oil pump out of monopolization
The Explosive Rifle was a rifle in Red Dead Redemption 1s multiplayer you could get from clearing world events on the map and it was a crazy strong weapon but only came with 5 shots
4:05, Explosive rifle could also be referring to the Rare Explosive Rifle weapon that was present in Red Dead Redemption, but not Red Dead Redemption 2
Great video. Love the observations. Something I have observed and find amusing (not meant in a mean way so don’t come at me)is that because of the rhotic ‘r’ in the accent, Americans really struggle to say ‘Red Dead Redemption’ smoothly. It’s a thing in virtually all the red dead videos I’ve watched. Usually it gets changed to Red Deh rdmption 😊
38:50 fun fact, you can find her grave at Sadey bell and it says her name her date of birth, her date of death and she killed herself and killed many others
1:16:36 The Ghost Train is either based off of the ghost train that appears in the second Ghostbusters movie. Or the the urban legend that after Abraham Lincoln's death people saw a ghostly version of the presidential death train used at the time going down the tracks.
At 52:20 when he mentioned that if John was a rat they would have said something in the game. In the mission where Dutch kills the women in Guarma Dutch says all those clues, and says that maybe John is the rat.
Not gonna lie, for some unknown reason I chuckled whenever you'd say "red dead redemption" and it would blend together like one word. Not a dig at you or anything, just random. But when you have to say it that many times in a video, obviously youre going to say it as quickly as possible
I’m sure the ghost train is a reference to Ghostbusters II, where Ray, Peter, Egon and Winston encounter a ghost train while in a tunnel looking for the river of slime.
This is a compilation of my first two red dead iceberg videos and four more parts of new content which I added to this video.
Here are some good UA-camrs who went more in-depth on a lot of these topics.
www.youtube.com/@Fizhy/videos
www.youtube.com/@Waxyyy/videos
www.youtube.com/@StrangeManChannel
www.youtube.com/@FilbeeGaming/videos
Great channels ❤❤❤❤❤
i can tell you a bit about some stuff mentioned in the video, great stuff by the way(spoilers for movies the revenant and shawshank redemption here) the hunter with the dead bear is a refference to a leonardo de caprio movie called the revenant witch is loosely based on a real guy called hugh glass, and the gold in beachers hope, its a refference to the ending movie shawshank redemption with the stone material leading up towards the tree like in the movie, when you help a stranger woman dont remember her name (its been years since i last played the game) but she talks about a girl who isnt allowed to leave her house and you can see her a bit in the window and many believe or theorize this is the girl who went missing from that royal family it could also be a over protective father but its an interesting theory non the less its the one with the emerald ranch , by the way if you shoot that k member you get some good honor points, you missed the roanoke echo/voice of a girl its not to be confused with the ghost girl, basically in the forest they be echoes of a girl saying we need to get out of here or we need to hide i dont remember the quotes exactly but its a creepy easter egg witch yes it is a obvious refference to the roanoke colony irl, what music did you use during the video ive never heard it before? also the chubracpra was a rumored animal in the base game of rdr 1 and they added it in undead nightmare
You talk so much. Excessively.
So much that you basically are saying nothing.
Maybe you would get more subscribers if you didn't clickbait and just repeat all the things every other generic UA-camr says.
There is evidence from Rockstar that Abigail could be the rat. When Dutch and Arthur are following the old woman through the tunnel in Guarma, Dutch suggests he is questioning why John was the only one captured alive after the Saint Denis heist, and how Abigail also wasnt captured and dealt with alongside Hosea when they were supposed to be together.
Abigail could have struck a deal that John was kept alive and not treated like the rest, as Lenny, Hosea, and the rest were shot at by the Lawmen.
Considering the events of RDR1, the fact that Abigail is again in custody with the Government, whilst John is sent out to legitimately do the work of the Government tracking down his former friends is in line with this theory.
Consider that perhaps Molly and Micah truly were informants, and both of them were taken out by the gang before Dutch was brought to justice. The Pinkertons - eventually becoming the Goverment - must have become fed up by this, and resorted to fully detaining their other informant - Abigail - and leveraging her and Jack over John, to force him into physically doing their bidding throughout RDR1.
Honestly I think people like the "Uncle is Red Harlow" theory because they just love the idea that their favorite terminal lumbago patient was a legendary badass at some point.
He is red Harlow.
@@Conky88 onlyif that was true
@@VANDERLINDE22 it is true.
@@Conky88 proof?
@@VANDERLINDE22 you have Google and video games. I'm not your teacher.
Something to add to the Princess Isabeau entry, there is an unused adult model of her in the game files, which suggests that there may be a cut questline where you could actually find her and end the mystery.
About the corpse with the tiny arm, there may be a connection to Archibald MacGregor, who tells about his uncle with a small arm, but the correlation is not certain.
Also, the reason why people think that Alma Horlick is a ghost, is that in Undead Nightmare her grave states that she died in 1911, but the stranger mission can be done in 1914 as Jack Marston. But truly it's most likely just an oversight.
Me and my friend actually talked to Roger Clark at Greenville Comic Con in SC last year in April. We asked about the whole Princess thing and he told us that he actually did record voice lines and such for the quest and said Arthur did eventually find her, but she had lost her memories. He didn't get too specific but the quest was left unfinished outside of unreleased voice lines and her adult model being made.
Your pfp is scawy 😨
@@songokuehhh5492that’s so cool! There is uncut voice lines of her talking to Arthur so she was suppose to be a canon mission that you need to help her as Arthur and I think a second person comes involved too to help her along with Arthur during the mission
@@songokuehhh5492I’m glad you and your friend talked with Rodger! He’s so sweet and amazing ❤❤❤
@@Tayls250I'm surprised someone found it scary nowadays.
I'm a pretty hardcore Rdr fan and I've seen a LOT of Icebergs, but I hadn't even heard of some of these, really makes you think if there's stuff we haven't even scratched the surface of.
Most of the stuff honestly has an answer now tho with game files at least for RDR2 being scoured pretty closely
How do people get the search files you would think that rockstar wouldn’t want you searching in their files especially when you find all the unfinished content. How does that work? I’m pretty sure it’s on PC or can I do it? I’m PlayStation five also also very good job making this video I watch the whole thing, thank you I’m about to get on red dead in a few. I have a lot more knowledge of this game now thank you so much for the video and your hard work. Great job.
@@josephobuck5409it's only PC unfortunately
@@josephobuck5409 I feel like a dinosaur for having a PS3. It's my favorite PlayStation console, because with a PS3 and a PS5, you can play pretty much every PlayStation game ever.
"Bill you are gay! As in homosexual!"
-John Marston
It's so depressing what happened to Tommy after the fight. I know he wasn't a paragon of good before, but seeing him just be a husk of a person is... sad. You can talk to several people who tell Arthur that he really messed up Tommy.
It's also scary that stuff like that happens IRL too. People get into a fight and get knocked on the head, then boom. You're an entirely different person for the rest of your life. The brain is a fickle thing.
I'm in the middle of developing schizophrenia, and it's true that the brain is a fickle thing. It can develop randomly in your early 20s
The mind is extremely resilient but also incredibly fragile, just takes the exact things happening at the right or wrong time for for it to go haywire, it sucks when your normally a strong individual then something happens and nobody will believe you unless it’s visible,I got savagely beat at 2 years old and now I’ve got cptsd and other issues and nobody believes it’s as bad as I say so I just don’t express what I’m goin through anymore
@@magpipe146 love you
I remember seeing video's of a boxer who got hurt on the head and became a vegetable. He died few years later.
Im in your walls @@memeshort7189
I think what Rockstar did so well with Red Dead (and specifically RDR2) is how they integrated the spooky/supernatural elements without ramming them down your throat and ruining the atmosphere. The old west was a spooky time, but I'm glad they didn't go too overboard with it and I hope they take a similar approach with GTA as apposed to having a ghost on every street corner and aliens everywhere or something else pandering like that.
It's a balancing act, definitely need more than the one ghost of Gordo in gta v.
@JFTSwiertz for sure. And we saw how Rockstar's appearances for ghosts has changed since GTA 5 and RDR2. Jolene Cranley is like this flat texture while the Lemoyne ghost (I think that's where she is?) is anything but lol
if you tie up the aberdeen sister and take her to where arthur wakes up she stars screaming "im sorry mama" the siblings couldve killed her
I'm pretty sure you can bring her to the police too
Could’ve? Bro. 😂
I think when they both say 'horrible business' along with the scratched out faces around some of the pictures proves it.. plus if you don't let yourself get drugged during the dinner and leave you can go back a other day and you can listen to bray write a letter to his 'dead mother' oh yeah they defo offed them
Imagery of nature depending on your honour is everywhere in read dead 2. There's a shack in Bayou Nwa with paintings, if you have high honour there will be bucks and eagles, if you have low honour you'll see wolves and coyotes
Also i think your honor affects the weather in the game. Just completed a low honor playthrough and it rained all.the.damn.time. Also there was more random gang and animal attacks (especially wolves).
@@narcissa6581I think that’s just luck. I purposely tanked my honor and basically played as the most awful version of Arthur possible, being at the lowest for 80% of the playthrough and I don’t have any of those issues
That shack also has a mirror you can see the Strange Man from RDR1 in... only once, though.
@@narcissa6581this i think was confirmed to be true and I’ve definitely experienced it. But the latter part of the game also has worse weather anyway. The environment is used in an incredible way throughout this game to convey the honour as well as the overall mood of the main character and the gang during specific times
In regards to the ghost train, I'm pretty sure it only triggers once, at 3am on the in-game clock. It's not a matter of spawn chance, it's just a matter of going there and the right time of day.
29:26 In RDR1 Uncle was voiced by a guy named Spider Madison. Madison is actually a really mysterious guy and no one at Rockstar or any of the other voice cast knows what happened to him after production of the first RDR ended. He basically dropped off the face of the earth. It's literally not even known if he's still alive or not.
Anyway, John O'creagh was actually the initial actor cast for Uncle in RDR2. Unfortunately he passed away in 2016 and didn't get to finish his work on the game, leading him to be replaced by James McBride. However, some of O'creagh's performance still exists in the final game. Whenever Uncle sings in camp it's in O'creagh's voice.
John Marston's actor spoke about him saying he's alive
o'creagh's run (map location) is named for him as well
The fact they never added the navy revolver into the story is a crime
Red dead offline is a awesome mod that adds a ton of online content into single player
Yesssss and ponchos
Never realized it's Thomas Downes who saves Tommy during the mission...
I realized it in my 1st playthrough
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Arthur mention's to Strauss that he knows Downes because of this, it's impossible to miss if you just watch the cutscenes lol.
St Denis is a reference to St. Denis of Paris. He was Christian Priest of Paris in the 3rd century who was a Christian martyr. He was beheaded as is said to have carried his own head back on a horse to where his grave is today.
Poor Kieran
"Supposedly there was a plague and there's evidence such as a sign that says 'Plague'" LMAO
My bad but people have said in theories that the “plague” sign is a fake sign to throw people off of what really happened
5:20 I always forget that John literally had a conversation with a Sasquatch/Big Foot
Not actually though, it wasn’t canon
WHAT?!???,
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@@Bonk2006 didn’t even think about that but yeah not technically
So the Tommy entry, you can absolutely get beaten into that lvl of mental degradation, it's called a tbi (traumatic brain injury.) and it can be as mild as headaches and insomnia, to being a total vegetable or reverting to basically being a child mentally. 😢 (My fiance works in a home that's specifically tbi patients. It's very sad, life can be wrecked in a second.)
Imagine if RDR3 takes us even further back, and we meet an old man in odd clothes who introduces himself as Francis Sinclair.
They will or Arthur Sinclair will be in gta 6
Brainded fans.
@@KC.45 G-gulp
There will be no rdr3 pal
@AverageAlien why say that? It's a super popular ip.
19:27 all 4 horses of the apocalypse and the chupacabra are both obtainable before the end of undead nightmare, it’s just incredibly hard as fuck and involves lucky spawning, I ran across the map and back multiple times for 2/3 hours before I got death to spawn after finding the other 3, the unicorn was even more frustrating
Who ever plays a bald Arthur Morgan is crazy
i have with a long ass beard can’t remember who i was going for on the look but badass nonetheless
I’m kinda sad for Molly. I like to imagine Charles planted a cross for her after he learned she wasn’t a traitor
Apparently she has an unused grave that wasn’t added. Charles definitely made it too I like to think
The Gavin character is a rooster teeth Easter egg. They had a running joke where Gavin Free was never to be found at their offices due to his other projects.
There are at least two RT members in the game as well, Geoff is voicing mail clerk, and Jack Patillo is voicing hotel clerk!
I said that too on reddit lol
But doesn’t he mention an emerald? And we get an emerald from Margaret?
Like yeah it’s a reference/easter egg but I personally theorize it was meant to lead to more but became cut content instead
Maybe a “Gavin” could be found in Guarma and you can trade the emerald for something
I think the civil war soldier thinking the war is still going is likely a reference to the real event where there was a Japanese soldier who protected his post for 30 years before his commander finally went to tell him to stop.
Hiroo Onoda, was his name if you are curious about the whole thing
Saying micah doesn’t seem like a character who would SA someone is laughable due to all the Karan scenes but I agree that I don’t think he did anything sexual to Jack
Rockstar wouldn’t add something that nasty, there’s a reason there’s no kids in rockstar games expect bully
@@jerrystackpaper there are kids in rdr2 but most of them are teenagers and used for missions
Francis Sinclair is gonna be a discoverable character in gta 6 and if he in any way references Arthur, the media would lose it.😂
Since the games are different universes it would be really interesting to have him be a link between the two
@charissimpson235 they're the same universe because Francis is part of the episilom group and he exists in rdr2 also jack Marston book is in franking house
@@lucidhuffleThe group existed in the 3d and HD universe as well though ,so this doesnt necessarly mean its one universe.
Although i think nothing speaks really against all these games being one universe,so i dont get why they make them all seperate.
@@charissimpson235I'm pretty sure they're the same planet
The amounts of so-called "fans" I keep seeing in the comments. Anyone who has done a little bit of research on the subject knows that Francis Sinclair is completely unrelated to Epsilon and that the Red Dead book is not the only easter egg book in GTA 5, there are more easter eggs like that.
The night folk are probably a reference to the original zombie
They like next to lagras and those little afro-american settlements in lemoyne
The concept of zombies came from Haitian folklore with influence of african religious customs
It would be basically a half-dead or undead slave created by magic. characterized by dark skin, white paiting on the face, clouded eyes(that is basically a perfect description of the night folk)
They would have Difficulty to communicate too, and that's another thing that they share with the night folk
And a curious fact. The word "zombie" originated from africa aswell. And would mean something in the lines of "warrior"
Here in Brazil, the greatest historical figure representing the fight against slavery was a slave called Zumbi dos Palmares. which is literally "Zombie of Palmares(the name of a community of fugitive slaves)
This is the best theory
I just realized the ghost is what Reverand Swanson was talking about when we move in to the house.
20:38 This is actually a reference to a Leonardo DiCaprio movie called “The revenant” And the bear attacks is inspired by the same movie.
The Evans repeater wasn’t originally in story mode and was only added a while after it was added to online.
Never knew thank you!
I thought so. I remember playing the game back when it came out, since then I've reported it and couldn't remember using it the first time around.
@@RedDeadTierLists its added first in the story mode for the pc version of RDR2 (plus the m1899 pistol, a few new horses and new side missions as well), then all these were released in consoles later on
I think that the guy with the tiny arm is probably deputy archibald’s father beacuse of this line of dialogue:”he had child’s hand on the end of a grown man’s arm”
Yeah I forgot to include that but I did see that during my research
The giant skeletons in RDR2 are a reference to the urban legend of 'giant skeletons', sometimes with horns, allegedly found in (fill in the state/territory here) in the 19th century, and supposedly hidden somewhere in the depths of the Smithsonian, because 'they' don't want the public to know.
I really like how you take the grim themes of the iceberg and instead of forcing a very "spooky" tone you stay close to your normal speaking voice and weigh the legitimacy of the mysteries. Makes it a lot more bearable and in a way is more respectful to the developers then the annoying creepypasta tones of other rdr videos
You know, you can say red dead 2 or rdr or rdr2. I’ll gladly support the 90%
We need Red Dead Redemption 3 that’ll officially introduce Red Harlow into the same universe as John/Arthur
Would be kinda fire, lowkey gonna make a video on RDR3 ideas soon
This biggest thing that people might want to look into about nigel gavin. I know nigel is looking for gavin in rhodes but theres one particular mission i think kinda got over seen which is when arthur first has a ln attack and lead to the doctor, in my first playthrough i swore to go the dude who lead you to the doc in ST. denis was nigel. They could've used anyone but in my reasoning, that character was the only one who actually kinda stands out from the rest of the NPC's in st. Denis.
12:58 i’m pretty sure there was going to be another town up there called wolfs creek, hosea mentions it when you go hunting in chapter 2 and i think it’s mentioned a couple other times
i feel like since its in tall trees the blackwater team may have been killed by the skinner brothers
The gold at beechers hope is a reference to shawshank redemption where at the last scene the protagonists friend finds money left for him under a rock wall next to a tree that is identical to the one on the great plains
That's not in Beecher's Hope.
Explosive riffle was a weapon in the original red dead redemption 1 multiplayer (I think it was a dlc). I just remember being able to pick it up after doing a mission online and how it would bring terror 😂
I was just playing undead nightmare it was also in that
You can get it in single player in the gunsmith in blackwater once you download the dlc
26:41 You dont really gotta empathize with the Braithewaites on that one lmao
Hey man, great vid. Would just say you might wanna use a script. Sometimes you would ramble or your sentences wouldn’t make sense.
Loved all the content and hope you keep growing!
Agree, there were some odd pauses that sounded like you were burping 😅 you can do more than one take 🙏🏻
This is a top tier iceberg video my dude! Here's hoping for the blowup in subs that you deserve!
40:26 that’s a reference to the film “The Shawshank Redemption” where the same scenario happens even with a similar animation to the film.
Was looking for this comment!!
Just imagine
Rdr1: a non cannon cowboys vs zombies dlc
Rdr2: a non cannon cowboys vs aliens dlc
Rockstar you had a golden opportunity there
Hey there, you’ve got loads of good and interesting things to say and I enjoy the video but I really think you’d benefit from a script.
I find now and then you were repeating the same things or just not properly articulating what you were trying to say.
Something to add in the beginning of the epilog in rdr1 undead nightmare Theres a scene where abraham Reyes goes back in the tombs and takes the aztec mask again thats the reason why john is a zombie in the prolouge 😅
That. Was Seth
The calanders weren't like Micah... Arthur, Hosea and Javier speak fondly of them. Arthur says "I miss those boys"...
35:53 I pushed this guy off the cliff because he laughed at the guy that fell from the cliff, so after I pushed him, I laughed at him.
Recently played RDR1 recently and read the newspapers and in those newspapers there are articles about Tumbleweed being haunted. Although you can never find or see anything to prove that it is implied it is haunted!
You did this recently?
proud of you for making this video man, great job 🙏🏻
Thank you 🙌
The explosive rifle is a reference to the explosive rifle in rdr 1 it was a dlc weapon
Yes I wonder if the creator actually played rdr1
Fun fact- in the aberdeen house right after you kill the siblings, based on your honor youll find an animal upstairs in their bedroom. If you have high honor it's a deer and if your honor is low it's a black coyote
A deer just chilling in the bed?
The only reason I like to believe uncle is red harlow is not only because the whole time you know uncle he is physically stunted so the idea that he was badass mixed with paying homage to the actor himself, he is most definitely not canonically not red Harlow but I am okay with being ignorant when it comes to this specifically lol
About the Evans Repeater. I don't know if this has been said already, but the iceberg entry is actually about it's reload speed, which is insanely fast, even compared to the other guns in the game, unlike the real life counterpart which was notoriously slow to reload. And another thing, the Evans is one of, if not the best repeater in the game unlike the real-life one once again, which was needlessly complicated, and had sub-par performance(accuracy etc.) compared to the litchfield and lancaster repeater's real life equivalents(I forgot their names)
I love the Evans for it's quirkiness though.
Great ice-burg man, I hate to admit it but I have 1,300 hours on Red Dead 2, lol, so I thought I would know most of these. There is alot of stuff in here I didn't know, I can tell you did your research. Great video man!
You can get all mythical horses before beating Undead Nightmare’s campaign.. you just gotta know where to look 🧐 I always do it everytime I replay Undead Nightmare.
53:20 i think the more supportive evidence that Dutch lived there is that it also happens to be where his quest item is found.
Hey have you ever considered doing more than one take for your audio?
1:15:49 this is NOT the judge Holden from Blood Meridian, it’s just a reference to the book
Everything is described as "creepy" and "weird". That's it.
30:19 you do know that Roanoke Ridge is largely based off of the Roanoke region in North Carolina, right? That's not "far west", it's literally just about as Eastward as you can go in North America.
Also at 1:24:08 Micah has said "whats the point in having a bunch of girls back at camp when they won't even fuck you if you put a gun to their head?". He definitely IS the SA type of character, just likely not one that targets children. So much of this video shows a blatant lack of knowledge and understanding about this game to the point it hurts.
You should make the iceberg then
@@txicsRNG nah, bc people that have this much knowledge about the game don't make the icebergs, since we feel like most everything on it is common knowledge. It takes these low IQ individuals to take shit that's surface level and pretend it's mysterious and strange to make this type of content.
subscribing before you even said a word. I got a good feeling about this channel
Something to add to the Undead Nightmare part was that in a shop, I can’t remember which town, you can see the green mask you had to use in undead nightmare to stop the zombies, it’s just sitting there on a shelf
21:50 I found the cave accidentally whilst trying to fully map out New Austin, it was a neat little find
29:00 in that town theres also a small brick building thats supposed to be a jail, theres 2 dead prisoners inside and i dont know if this was a glitch or something but when i left the area and came back less than 1 in game day later the bodies where gone.
Can't wait to watch more! I love RDR and your content!
Will be trying to post once a week at least for the next couple of months
19:45 i remember when i played red dead for the first time i found one of the bodies in valentine, got super irrationally scared because for some reason i was expecting an ambush (night folk trauma before i even got there i guess xd) and then ended up accidentally finding his hiding place because i was looking for cigarette cards...was way scarier at first honestly haha
something about how this dude talks just makes this hard to listen to. Not his voice or anything but the cadence and choice of word or something “and just because abigail was a prostitute before she was a member of the gang and like while she was a member of the gang she was like sleeping with the other members of the gang before she met John really”
Idk what it is if it’s extra words or just sounds like a continuous run on sentence.
Anyone else hear this ?
Was looking for someone to say this
I commend you for taking the brave stance that racism and genocide is bad.
You already know that I am watching this on the weekend
4:12 you didn’t mention the explosive rifle from RDR 1 which was available online and in single player.. it would obliterate a target if hit directly, turning them into a red mist or they would be killed but a shockwave if close enough. There was a glitch to shoot it rapid fire online that people would do. Only old head will remember that haha.. good times..
Definitely what the iceberg was talking about my bad did not pop up during my research
@@RedDeadTierLists lol I’m rereading my comment I came off rude now that I read it. My bad, it’s all good :).. explosive rifle was crazy back then. I used to always carry one on me if I was playing solo online. That was a way to keep big posses off of you when you had a bounty.. I miss it. RDR II explosives rounds are no fun compared to RDR I explosive rifle..
My favorite thing about this video is all the times you go, “I don’t really see it” or “I don’t think it works” truly was a great tidbit to add on an iceberg video!
I’m so sarcastic lol. I remeber being annoyed you kept undermining the entries
Technically, Arthur have 2 Spirit animals for each Honour (for representation of Earth and Sky), Buck and Eagle for high, Coyote and Condor for low.... some scene where he update his journal, other than the Buck and Coyote. It shows the Eagle or Condor
What a game. I couldn't stop watching. Great edit and music choice btw.
enjoyed the video but some tips for next time.
1. Write a script so you dont stumble over your words so much
2. Research the topics a lil more
3. Dont forget to have fun making your content!
The Calanders weren't "like Micah". Arthur, Hosea and Javier and even Mary-Beth, speak of them fondly of them. Arthur even says "I gonna miss those boys" to Hosea. From What I could extrapolate, Mac was the older brother, and Arthur seemed to have a pretty strong bond with him in particular, judging from his reaction when Milton tells him he killed Mac.
I like how at 40:20 it sounds like you get carried away by the police or something.
The whole buck and wolf/coyote thing was a pretty neat thing to include, i was always wondering why the wolf kept showing up on my first ever playthrough not really realising about the whole honor thing, glad im now starting to see the buck this playthrough
Generally pissed me off at an hour an 9 minutes in when u were playing the ghosts talking but bumped your music up. What was the thought process there
Im 2 months late but i know that Karen Jones did unfortunately pass away because the actress had said something about her passing because she drank herself to death but she wants to imagine that shes still alive even though she is not. I could not find the letter of what it said but its probably on Twitter/X or instagram somwhere, im not sure where ive seen it before, but now i cant find it. Sorry!
Love the content and the Iceberg Tier List for Red Dead Redemption 2. Keep up the great work bro.
Finally I have wanted a video like this since I started playing last year
putting this here for reference, 35:55 is where tier 3 starts
I’m adding chapters rn my bad
The Aberdeen farm stranger mission is also my favorite i use it to transfer Arthurs money to the epilogue lol
The guy that you give alcohol to in 1:10:23 actually doesn’t die I had this same encounter and he fell over in his chair and you could hear him snoring
29:22
I definitely believe Cornwall did it
because when looking for Dino Fossils
you can find a letter of a man around Fossil #1
implying Cornwall took over the oil pump out of monopolization
The Explosive Rifle was a rifle in Red Dead Redemption 1s multiplayer you could get from clearing world events on the map and it was a crazy strong weapon but only came with 5 shots
the mispronunciation and misspellings genuinely made this an awesome video, especially the exploding horse one 😂😂
4:05, Explosive rifle could also be referring to the Rare Explosive Rifle weapon that was present in Red Dead Redemption, but not Red Dead Redemption 2
Great video. Love the observations. Something I have observed and find amusing (not meant in a mean way so don’t come at me)is that because of the rhotic ‘r’ in the accent, Americans really struggle to say ‘Red Dead Redemption’ smoothly. It’s a thing in virtually all the red dead videos I’ve watched. Usually it gets changed to Red Deh rdmption 😊
Yeah, I also can’t say Sword Art Online due to my Florida accent 😢
38:50 fun fact, you can find her grave at Sadey bell and it says her name her date of birth, her date of death and she killed herself and killed many others
Man good job on this vid very entertaining
1:16:36 The Ghost Train is either based off of the ghost train that appears in the second Ghostbusters movie. Or the the urban legend that after Abraham Lincoln's death people saw a ghostly version of the presidential death train used at the time going down the tracks.
Happy creators are still making these videos even in 2024
What a video this really helped me get to know alot more about red dead redemption 2
At 52:20 when he mentioned that if John was a rat they would have said something in the game. In the mission where Dutch kills the women in Guarma Dutch says all those clues, and says that maybe John is the rat.
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Not gonna lie, for some unknown reason I chuckled whenever you'd say "red dead redemption" and it would blend together like one word. Not a dig at you or anything, just random. But when you have to say it that many times in a video, obviously youre going to say it as quickly as possible
41:46 he is based off a wwII Japanese soldier who kept fighting after the war ending for atleast a few years
42:45 - Guy is the Uncle Reginald most likely (reference: American Distillation mission)
1:38:28 I think Micah could've been keeping it "just in case" to use as a threat as a last resort, to get his way somehow.
I’m sure the ghost train is a reference to Ghostbusters II, where Ray, Peter, Egon and Winston encounter a ghost train while in a tunnel looking for the river of slime.