@@NinetyEight418 ... A few minutes, as per EVERY "iceberg" video. It is perhaps the laziest, dumbed-down presentation format in the history of humankind.
I love the idea of badass Red Harlow becoming so unserious and “at peace”after he finished avenging his family that he literally turned into a western jester.
I liked that you brought awareness to the toxic work culture around rdr2. I never even knew any of that and it makes sense now why they sort of abandoned RDO and also why GTA6 is taking so long. The workers who remained at rockstar must have been soo burnt out after finishing RDR2… I’m glad to hear that it actually improved after.
Exactly, people are eager for GTA 6 but they have to understand that the reason it's taking so long is because they're being fair to the developers making the game Thank you for commenting!
@Abzy467 how can you say GTA 6 woke RDR2 good when red dead 2 has a ton of diverse lead characters, in the epilogue Sadie brings John along with her to bounty hunt as basically the leader of the duo This whole "woke mindset" is such a pessimistic perspective on writing and video games. Red Dead 2 was extremely progressive especially for a game set in 1899-1907. If you didn't have a problem with red dead you won't have a problem with GTA 6
@@CrackedJust1n Sadie is a character that was written by the old rockstar the ones they had before everyone left the ones who wrote gta 4, the ones who wrote gta 5, the ones who wrote basically every hit rockstar title you know and in those games they made fun of everyone white people, black people, Indians, Chinese, gay, trans, feminist, men etc and it goes on.. and it was great. In gta 5 they rereleased the game and took out a bunch of trans jokes a bunch of gay jokes and basically anything that made fun of that community… (search up a place called cockatoos. They removed all the trans people from there) This suggests that they do not want to make fun of or meme a certain group.. which is not how old rockstar was. It also suggests them catering to the new “modern audience”. Sadie is an amazing character she is BADASS. But even with her she had a moment. In one mission where you help her as Arthur (where you kill the last O’Driscoll’s) she outwrestles and kills a man nearly 3x the size of her…
@@CrackedJust1n i apologise I wrote an entire essay and put points and evidence from previous rockstar titles and UA-cam deleted the comment even after I pressed send..
My personal favorite theory (that likely isn’t true) is that there wasn’t a rat and Agent Milton lied about Micah being the rat, to help destabilize the gang.
i heard a similar theory where they lied about having a rat entirely, they essentially just followed in the gang's wake of robbing and killing. it makes sense too since their level of organisation in tracking criminals across the country was pretty new, the gang hadn't really dealt with it before not to imply Dutch couldn't think of this. considering his decline, he'd be much more likely to believe there was a rat and blame their downfall on that spectre
also to opine on the *brain-injury theory, i think the only thing that was permanently wounded that day was his ego. he was already slipping (never forget that girl he shot before the start), but to have a robbery go so laughably wrong and be lied to in a way that was so obvious in hindsight, he was out for blood
No, why would he tell arthur that when he was planning to kill arthur? The betrayal would die with Arthur and would not destabilize the gang, so what is the point of mentioning it? Was Milton planning to let arthur go or was he planning on getting killed?
Milton tells us in game that Micah became an informant after the gang returned from Guarma. Now of course this could be a case of an unreliable narrator but I don’t see why Milton would lie. He’s got the gang scattering and a sick Arthur dead to rights, he gains nothing from lying here. If we take Milton’s word for it that means Micah couldn’t have been the rat as far back as Blackwater. Milton also mentions they tried to shake down Molly a couple of times but she didn’t talk. In the game we are told at some point there was a rat in the gang, that person was found out and dealt with. I think this is one of the reasons Dutch is so paranoid and ultimately ensures the gangs downfall. Hes a narcissist, when his gang started questioning his decision making that paranoia festered further clouding his judgment. By the time Micah betrays the gang after Guarma I think he just knows the boat is sinking and saw a lifeboat to grab on to. He’s still a POS though. Dutch spends all game saying they need to lay low yet everywhere the gang goes they end up shooting up half the town. I think there was no rat until after Guarma. Before then it would’ve been easy for the Pinkertons to track the gangs movements, the gang was front page news every where they went. Excuse the novel, I love this game 😂
Just a side note here: I think, one of the most tragic things about rdr2 is that we all would love to play as Chapter 6 Arthur's matured mentality, but with his Chapter 1 health. Its tragic because rdr basically shows us that, as people, we need some sort of suffering to grow into good people. In this case, Arthur has to lose, basically everything his gang, his family, and his health. Ultimately, Arthur's suffering turns him into a more honourable person who has the best potential to redeem himself.
It's very true, we tend to be selfish until we're the ones who are going to be left behind So we have to start doing things for the people we love before the time is up
Bigfoot is still the saddest moment in this series… the moral choice is to kill him but once learning the truth, you must live with Genociding an entire innocent species
Yea it’s really sad until u realize that bigfoot was capping and u can still occasionally see sasquatches running around tall trees after the mission and even if you kill “the last one”. Maybe it’s unintentional but literally everytime I go to Tall Trees I always see one so they’re not even rare
11:15 Pleasance was also a reference to the walking dead, the barn with the writing is a jab at the DO NOT OPEN DEAD INSIDE, and one of the gravestones has the name Glenn on it
I hate the idea of Abigail or Pearson being rats, it’s not a fun thought it just makes me angry that the people who really brought down the gang just get to go and live happy lives, especially Pearson
I pointed a gun at Pearson in Rhodes expecting him to be like 'Okay John, let's not play any games around here', but he just threatened to report me to the sheriff like any other shopkeeper NPC. Does this man view us any differently from regular folk, does he even care about his history with the gang?
@@locinolacolino1302of course he cares about the history of the gang, he wouldn’t have a picture of them on his wall in his shop if he didn’t. And plus he probably reacts that way because he‘s decided to live a civilized life and has people to protect like his wife
Something missing from the "Bill is gay" theory. If your Arthur falls victim to Sonny, the guy in the swamp who knocks him out and uh takes advantage, Bill needles Arthur about it in a knowing way. Makes you wonder why Bill was socializing with a guy like that. Maybe he found Bill a bit more wiling.
About Gavin, it’s an inside joke between the R* company. There was someone there called Gavin that he was always late or never there and they’d shout out his name as a joke. Also the Micah part, remember when Arthur and Micah was escaping jail. Micah took him to a spot where Arthur will be kidnapped later, I swear he’s o’Driscoll himself.
Gavin's friend is Gavin. If you loot him, there's a note staying this Rdr2 was going to have an under nightmare dlc too, you can see the spawners at the blackwater graveyard
Got recommended the rockstar games iceberg a couple months ago and this man has had be entertained since. Every iceberg video I’ve watched I’ve seen stuff I never knew about. Great research, funny ash, deserves more than 15k subs
Character models 1 and 2 are Guarma Arthur and Tuberculosis Arthur. They’re not actually cut characters, they’re different versions of Arthur, that’s why John is 3.
Red dead games are something else, there are no other games like them. Filled with content, interesting characters, amazing stories and the best open worlds of their era. Only Rockstar can surpass their own games
It's kind of crazy how perfect Red Dead 1 and 2 are. Story, soundtrack, cutscenes all great but beyond that is so many weird mysteries. The people who write this stuff are straight up wizards fr
Really happy you made this since your Rockstar Iceberg video was fuckin great, but the only gripe I had with it was that you didn’t talk about Red Dead nearly enough. Banger of a video, man.
Seeing how a game could be so detailed, with so many events linked to each other, genuinely makes me wonder how people come up with this. You did an amazing job covering the whole iceberg, really enjoyed the video. Keep up the great work man!
@@totalcarsolutionstotalcars9189 You know buddy it's bound to happen sometimes, I only started getting good grades towards grade 11 and 12 school system is really difficult to wrap your head around depending on where you are, and how you learn. I hope things look up for you, and at the end of the day, you still passed!
1000% sure arthurs cut love interest has to be Sadie Adler they just seem so perfect and her missions with arthur she definitely be flirting with him. I see Mary Beth as more of a father daughter thing, and Abigail and arthur feels more like a little sister older brother thing 😂
The cut love interest was the mother of Arthur's child, Isaac. She was supposed to be around in Chapter 1 and die somehow, putting that situation in the middle of the story. This is confirmed by Roger Clark
Ned Luke cameo was NOT cut. He thinks its cut, but you can actually hear him in the mission where Dutch, Arthur, Bill and deputies went to swamps to kill moonshiners and steal their liquor. it IS in the game. It's NOT cut.
1:07:18 i remember that day the servers was broken I think Rockstar employees were celebrating Dan Houser's departure because of the work pressure they faced while making the game, so they messed up the servers for two days, and this character i never seen like it before you can not kill him or anything. The strange plot is that all this happened when he left.
48:38 to add onto this, when you're talking with mary beth, the health core heart starts beating, and if I remember the controller starts to vibrate a lil.
14:53 there’s this part where you go get supplies from Bonnie that Abigail goes too. The entire time she’s pestering John about how Bonnie likes him and he likes her. When you get the supplies and you’re leaving you see Bonnie playing with her hair and crossing her legs and putting her hands together. Then Abigail talks about how red her face was. That’s just kinda cute, I like that detail!
I remember at the end of the mission where you save Abigail and Arthur's health starts failing, it felt heavily implied that you were about play as Sadie and take over for Arthur. Now with the unknown player one and two, I'm wondering if that was actually what was supposed to happen.
I think the strange mans cain from the bible "There is a myth that Cain was never allowed to die and as punishment for being the first murderer, he was condemned to roam the Earth until the end of time. He would never age and everywhere he travels, misfortune goes with him."
Also in RDO i am dressed like doug dimmadome. It triggers many griefers because i think the white 10 gallon hat can be seen a mile away. But it often saves me cuz they aim too high to hit my actual head 😂
My Karen iceberg theory is that after most of the gang ran off from camp, Uncle and Mary-Beth, she was left behind at camp in a drunken state when the gang went off to rob that last train, and was kidnapped by Murfree lurking in the area due to their cave being taken, waiting for their moment to strike the dwindling gang. She ofc, was never seen again as the Murfree are basically the Hills Have Eyes creatures of the Red Dead World. There's no way she'd end up at a tavern so far away from the camp and Annesburg was a dry town and Van Horn was even further south.. She'd never make it alone and drunk. Also, another iceberg, Lenny knew Dutch was full of sh*t but loved the gang, due to their clashes between that author Dutch loved so much yet every character in the main story call the player crazy when they call Evelyn Miller a "writer".
24:36 I prefer the abnormally fast horses from RDR1. I know it’s not as realistic or immersive but I’ve played both games extensively and I never remembered using fast travel at all in RDR1. Once the honeymoon phase wears off from RDR2, you stop caring about realism and just want fun; slow horses are not fun. It’s a video game, fun should be the very first priority, followed closely by cool.
53:00 The one thing that would lend credence to the Red Harlow Uncle theory would be if Uncle had the scorpion scar on his hand. Besides that, I don't think the dates line up. Red Dead Revolver takes place in the 1880s while Red Dead 2 takes place in 1899. The years just don't line up.
Ain't gonna lie man this is a W video i didn't skipped a single second watched ads cz i didn't want to start the video again and ruin the rhythm massive W keep it up
I know it’s been a couple of week but I’m pretty sure that the second love interest would be the woman Arthur helps in the woods. The one who’s Husband died after they travelled out to the wild.
I'm certain Dutch had concussion in that trolley and after having one it's easy to get another one within a month, getting another 2 during ship crash and then landing in Guarma for sure caused brain damage. And it progressed because it wasn't treated... And we don't know if he didn't have few more since Arthur died.
Yo bro this vid is fire cause even though I know alot of this stuff you talked about it in a way that makes it seem really refreshing, that stuff is very hard to find now
The love interest. Roger Clark has said in interview that his son was meant to be a new born who freezes to death on the way to Colter. So the mother, Eliza, must die during childbirth. They changed that. It explains Arthur's death sardonic wit
Not generic at all, I really appreciate that you took the time to let me know this :) It means the world thank you, people like you are the reason I want to make my videos as quality as possible
Jacks book would also have Arthur and johns journal for references for what he was too young to remember Red dead 2 & 1 together are obviously that book
The video states you can't explore out of bounds areas without mods. Actually yes you can, on consoles too, without modding the game. It's the "hidden cave exploit" on the far West of RDR2's map where you get Arthur or John pass out drunk and they wake up out of bounds. It's perfectly possible to get to Guarma or Mexico this way, although due to the amount of traversal you have to do it's very difficult, and if you're doing it with Arthur you have to watch out for the invisible sniper in certain regions.
Also when you set up camp near the frozen lake (the original rdr2, not updated version) you can get out of the map and eventually make it to Guarma or Mexico.!
1:23:35 I love the one you put at the end, the book, that’s why we see Arthur as our favorite, it’s who we want to be and can see parts of ourselves in but John gets kinda thrown to the side in 2 because we can see more of ourselves in John because he’s not perfect at all. His jokes aren’t as witty and they fall short all the time, he is shown as pretty dumb where as Arthur is smart and he’s funny. Jack saw it the way we did. I think that’s such beautiful writing!
35:10 something else to mention here is that the average gamer’s GPU or console could never even keep up with the graphics and memory capacity for Cyberpunk at the time of when that first trailer dropped. There was genuinely no reason at all for them to announce that game so early. I personally still haven’t even played it lol.
RDO takes place at same time as Blackwater Heist. Or a week later. Sean tells you he lost the gang because he had to go off and do something else. So did he get "Knocked out" then when he awoke went to do the other thing before we meet him at Tanners Reach? The gang are headed North when the snow starts so Sean loses their trail. He must get caught not long after that as we rescue him in the story.
25:03 Correction. Gertrude likely wasn't born that way, there's a photograph of a younger Gertrude in Doyle's Tavern in Saint Denis where she looks like a healthy child. There is a popular demonic posession theory around this, but then again, it's the Braithwaites we're talking about, maybe she *was* born that way and she has a twin sister or something like that.
Theres something with the deer and reed cottages. The really ragged one (I think deer cottage) if you sleep in the bed in the house until night time, when you wake up its pouring rain. Every time. And just up the hill behind the house is a dead body with someone riding up, getting off a horse and going through his pockets. Doesn't appear as tho he killed the guy tho. When googled it some people said they got a chime noise when riding through the rain. But i reckon one or both of those cottages trigger something
The theories that jack maraton made the whole red dead series is kinda scary in my opinion since if it is then that means that all the bank robbery missons were told to him by john, and also what if in red dead 3 at the end of it you see jack marston close the book and sell to someone else..
Rdr2 could've fast forwarded to Jack Marston's story as dlc.. or it could've been set at an earlier time before the incident in Blackwater that lead to the events of rdr2
would've been perfect if... They did an Undead Nightmare 2, where Jack (Is grown up), and he sees John arthur and Abigail are together (Grave yards.) because they were like family, then he walks away after he walks away, they all come out of the graves. Then Jack shoots all of them, then he sees looking out to the mountain... He See's zombies... He kills the zombies, while not talking. Unless... They are real people.
I am so deadass when I say I think Arthur’s cut love interest is Charles
It should have been
Yes! Roger Clark mentioned this in an interview.
false, arthur x albert mason 4evr
Actually?@@anonymousartist89
Nah that's more Bill's domain.
Thanks for using my iceberg chart bro!
of course! Thank you for sending it!
how long did it took to make that iceberg list?
@@NinetyEight418 5 hours mate. (I'm on my alt account to watch youtube corn
@@NinetyEight418 kinda 7 hours because i had to do additional edits ( im on my alt account because i use slurs on this one)
@@NinetyEight418 ... A few minutes, as per EVERY "iceberg" video. It is perhaps the laziest, dumbed-down presentation format in the history of humankind.
An hour and a half of red dead content with vine booms. My lucky day
a duo made in heaven
@ this video is chef’s kiss, I need more, it’s gold standard watch when eating content
I don't know why but when ever I see someone with my amount of obsession for rdr I feel so good.
Thanks for 3 days worth of content BTW.
I love red dead redemption so much buddy it's an incredible franchise
Same. I am OBSESSED with this game istg 😭😭😭
Day 4 and still not finished :)
I love the idea of badass Red Harlow becoming so unserious and “at peace”after he finished avenging his family that he literally turned into a western jester.
I liked that you brought awareness to the toxic work culture around rdr2. I never even knew any of that and it makes sense now why they sort of abandoned RDO and also why GTA6 is taking so long. The workers who remained at rockstar must have been soo burnt out after finishing RDR2… I’m glad to hear that it actually improved after.
Exactly, people are eager for GTA 6 but they have to understand that the reason it's taking so long is because they're being fair to the developers making the game
Thank you for commenting!
@Abzy467 how can you say GTA 6 woke RDR2 good when red dead 2 has a ton of diverse lead characters, in the epilogue Sadie brings John along with her to bounty hunt as basically the leader of the duo
This whole "woke mindset" is such a pessimistic perspective on writing and video games. Red Dead 2 was extremely progressive especially for a game set in 1899-1907. If you didn't have a problem with red dead you won't have a problem with GTA 6
@@Abzy467 im sorry but this is giving green aura with flies like 😭
@@CrackedJust1n Sadie is a character that was written by the old rockstar the ones they had before everyone left the ones who wrote gta 4, the ones who wrote gta 5, the ones who wrote basically every hit rockstar title you know and in those games they made fun of everyone white people, black people, Indians, Chinese, gay, trans, feminist, men etc and it goes on.. and it was great.
In gta 5 they rereleased the game and took out a bunch of trans jokes a bunch of gay jokes and basically anything that made fun of that community… (search up a place called cockatoos. They removed all the trans people from there)
This suggests that they do not want to make fun of or meme a certain group.. which is not how old rockstar was. It also suggests them catering to the new “modern audience”.
Sadie is an amazing character she is BADASS. But even with her she had a moment. In one mission where you help her as Arthur (where you kill the last O’Driscoll’s) she outwrestles and kills a man nearly 3x the size of her…
@@CrackedJust1n i apologise I wrote an entire essay and put points and evidence from previous rockstar titles and UA-cam deleted the comment even after I pressed send..
My personal favorite theory (that likely isn’t true) is that there wasn’t a rat and Agent Milton lied about Micah being the rat, to help destabilize the gang.
I love the red dead theories that are way out there, but could also technically still be true
Great comment!
i heard a similar theory where they lied about having a rat entirely, they essentially just followed in the gang's wake of robbing and killing. it makes sense too since their level of organisation in tracking criminals across the country was pretty new, the gang hadn't really dealt with it before
not to imply Dutch couldn't think of this. considering his decline, he'd be much more likely to believe there was a rat and blame their downfall on that spectre
also to opine on the *brain-injury theory, i think the only thing that was permanently wounded that day was his ego. he was already slipping (never forget that girl he shot before the start), but to have a robbery go so laughably wrong and be lied to in a way that was so obvious in hindsight, he was out for blood
No, why would he tell arthur that when he was planning to kill arthur? The betrayal would die with Arthur and would not destabilize the gang, so what is the point of mentioning it? Was Milton planning to let arthur go or was he planning on getting killed?
Milton tells us in game that Micah became an informant after the gang returned from Guarma. Now of course this could be a case of an unreliable narrator but I don’t see why Milton would lie. He’s got the gang scattering and a sick Arthur dead to rights, he gains nothing from lying here. If we take Milton’s word for it that means Micah couldn’t have been the rat as far back as Blackwater. Milton also mentions they tried to shake down Molly a couple of times but she didn’t talk.
In the game we are told at some point there was a rat in the gang, that person was found out and dealt with. I think this is one of the reasons Dutch is so paranoid and ultimately ensures the gangs downfall. Hes a narcissist, when his gang started questioning his decision making that paranoia festered further clouding his judgment. By the time Micah betrays the gang after Guarma I think he just knows the boat is sinking and saw a lifeboat to grab on to. He’s still a POS though.
Dutch spends all game saying they need to lay low yet everywhere the gang goes they end up shooting up half the town. I think there was no rat until after Guarma. Before then it would’ve been easy for the Pinkertons to track the gangs movements, the gang was front page news every where they went.
Excuse the novel, I love this game 😂
Just a side note here:
I think, one of the most tragic things about rdr2 is that we all would love to play as Chapter 6 Arthur's matured mentality, but with his Chapter 1 health.
Its tragic because rdr basically shows us that, as people, we need some sort of suffering to grow into good people. In this case, Arthur has to lose, basically everything his gang, his family, and his health. Ultimately, Arthur's suffering turns him into a more honourable person who has the best potential to redeem himself.
It's very true, we tend to be selfish until we're the ones who are going to be left behind
So we have to start doing things for the people we love before the time is up
@CrackedJust1n well said ! We should make the most of every moment
This man beat me to it! But I will still get a bucket of popcorn and watch this entire video. 🍿
Damn TGG!! Thanks I didn't expect you here lol
you only just finished RDR2 even though it came out 6 years ago and you want to make an iceberg on it why?
get a different perspective, all the content is fresh in his memory
@@Colm_Odriscoll DAMN O'DRISCOLLS
Money @@TruthSeeker69911
Imagine a Sadie dlc in the unused Mexico area. Smh nah gotta pump out more cars for gta online sorry
A dlc for the worst character in the game would be nice
@@kdu7ehskeowlaj idk what ur smoking if Sadie is the worst lmao
@@kdu7ehskeowlaj
Okay. I'll bite. Why is she the worst, somehow beating out even Micah Bell?
@@pattyayyyI have never played RD, and I know that's cap
@kdu7ehskeowlaj she's a terribly written character that made terrible choices and somehow survived without getting killed.
Bigfoot is still the saddest moment in this series… the moral choice is to kill him but once learning the truth, you must live with Genociding an entire innocent species
Yea it’s really sad until u realize that bigfoot was capping and u can still occasionally see sasquatches running around tall trees after the mission and even if you kill “the last one”. Maybe it’s unintentional but literally everytime I go to Tall Trees I always see one so they’re not even rare
@ damn he fooled me for 14 years
@@Majorzilla2000 I had to take a breather after that one
The va truly did an amazing job with how sad it was
11:15 Pleasance was also a reference to the walking dead, the barn with the writing is a jab at the DO NOT OPEN DEAD INSIDE, and one of the gravestones has the name Glenn on it
don’t dead open inside
FYI Dutch defense was when you would let all the pawns die to save the king
I hate the idea of Abigail or Pearson being rats, it’s not a fun thought it just makes me angry that the people who really brought down the gang just get to go and live happy lives, especially Pearson
I pointed a gun at Pearson in Rhodes expecting him to be like 'Okay John, let's not play any games around here', but he just threatened to report me to the sheriff like any other shopkeeper NPC. Does this man view us any differently from regular folk, does he even care about his history with the gang?
Tf did pearson even do?
@@locinolacolino1302of course he cares about the history of the gang, he wouldn’t have a picture of them on his wall in his shop if he didn’t. And plus he probably reacts that way because he‘s decided to live a civilized life and has people to protect like his wife
I think Karen was the other rat.... think about it.....YES.. that's what I'm saying. I think it was karen
They're survivors Morgan, survivors. That's all there is, living and dying
Something missing from the "Bill is gay" theory. If your Arthur falls victim to Sonny, the guy in the swamp who knocks him out and uh takes advantage, Bill needles Arthur about it in a knowing way. Makes you wonder why Bill was socializing with a guy like that. Maybe he found Bill a bit more wiling.
About Gavin, it’s an inside joke between the R* company. There was someone there called Gavin that he was always late or never there and they’d shout out his name as a joke. Also the Micah part, remember when Arthur and Micah was escaping jail. Micah took him to a spot where Arthur will be kidnapped later, I swear he’s o’Driscoll himself.
Did you work at Rockstar?
20:13 Ned Luke has said that they removed his voice from the game because they felt like it would take all the attention away from Arthur
26:40 that's where John is buried. The Stranger was right
Gavin's friend is Gavin. If you loot him, there's a note staying this
Rdr2 was going to have an under nightmare dlc too, you can see the spawners at the blackwater graveyard
Got recommended the rockstar games iceberg a couple months ago and this man has had be entertained since. Every iceberg video I’ve watched I’ve seen stuff I never knew about. Great research, funny ash, deserves more than 15k subs
Thank you brother!
Character models 1 and 2 are Guarma Arthur and Tuberculosis Arthur.
They’re not actually cut characters, they’re different versions of Arthur, that’s why John is 3.
Red dead games are something else, there are no other games like them. Filled with content, interesting characters, amazing stories and the best open worlds of their era. Only Rockstar can surpass their own games
It's kind of crazy how perfect Red Dead 1 and 2 are. Story, soundtrack, cutscenes all great but beyond that is so many weird mysteries. The people who write this stuff are straight up wizards fr
As a HUGE fan of the red dead games, this iceberg and the video itself is probably the best I’ve seen on UA-cam for red dead
Thank you!
thanks so much for the kind words :)
Really happy you made this since your Rockstar Iceberg video was fuckin great, but the only gripe I had with it was that you didn’t talk about Red Dead nearly enough. Banger of a video, man.
@@MaltiBLT you're right I should have talked about red dead a little more
1:19:52 To add to that the gun jams on the 4th shot, sparing Jack. Also its the exact spot the 3 of them are buried
@@Bottledwater200 absolute cinema
Seeing how a game could be so detailed, with so many events linked to each other, genuinely makes me wonder how people come up with this. You did an amazing job covering the whole iceberg, really enjoyed the video. Keep up the great work man!
Wasn't expecting this but a very good quality content for one and a half hour thanks my exam's are just over and now I am free to watch
Did you do good on your exams buddy?
@CrackedJust1n ah not that great 50% but I am indian so l am disappointment for my family
@@totalcarsolutionstotalcars9189 You know buddy it's bound to happen sometimes, I only started getting good grades towards grade 11 and 12
school system is really difficult to wrap your head around depending on where you are, and how you learn. I hope things look up for you, and at the end of the day, you still passed!
Thank bro @@CrackedJust1n
1000% sure arthurs cut love interest has to be Sadie Adler they just seem so perfect and her missions with arthur she definitely be flirting with him. I see Mary Beth as more of a father daughter thing, and Abigail and arthur feels more like a little sister older brother thing 😂
Sadie loved her husband it wouldn't fit her character
Dutch's last words was like a farewell to being The Outlaws of West.
The cut love interest was the mother of Arthur's child, Isaac. She was supposed to be around in Chapter 1 and die somehow, putting that situation in the middle of the story. This is confirmed by Roger Clark
Ned Luke cameo was NOT cut. He thinks its cut, but you can actually hear him in the mission where Dutch, Arthur, Bill and deputies went to swamps to kill moonshiners and steal their liquor. it IS in the game. It's NOT cut.
Here to drop the reminder that _we must get this man to 1 million subs_
Thank you Alex lol if only that would ever happen
@@CrackedJust1n I have since added to this cause!
1:07:18 i remember that day the servers was broken I think Rockstar employees were celebrating Dan Houser's departure because of the work pressure they faced while making the game, so they messed up the servers for two days, and this character i never seen like it before you can not kill him or anything. The strange plot is that all this happened when he left.
48:38 to add onto this, when you're talking with mary beth, the health core heart starts beating, and if I remember the controller starts to vibrate a lil.
Is this true?
Bro u make such good content your channel needs to be bigger
@zero-21 thanks homie 😢
14:53 there’s this part where you go get supplies from Bonnie that Abigail goes too. The entire time she’s pestering John about how Bonnie likes him and he likes her. When you get the supplies and you’re leaving you see Bonnie playing with her hair and crossing her legs and putting her hands together. Then Abigail talks about how red her face was. That’s just kinda cute, I like that detail!
I remember at the end of the mission where you save Abigail and Arthur's health starts failing, it felt heavily implied that you were about play as Sadie and take over for Arthur. Now with the unknown player one and two, I'm wondering if that was actually what was supposed to happen.
I think the strange mans cain from the bible "There is a myth that Cain was never allowed to die and as punishment for being the first murderer, he was condemned to roam the Earth until the end of time. He would never age and everywhere he travels, misfortune goes with him."
Good timing. I just finished the games and needed more.
3:06 remember hearing somewhere that the whole thing is a reference to a rockstar employee that never shows up or something like that
And also that he's just schizophrenic ( the English guy not the employee)
I really hope that this is true
35:28 "red dead 2 came out perfect no bugs no nothing" Famous last words
Also in RDO i am dressed like doug dimmadome. It triggers many griefers because i think the white 10 gallon hat can be seen a mile away. But it often saves me cuz they aim too high to hit my actual head 😂
You forgot to mention the UFO at Mount Shann in RDR2 when you get that map from the dead frozen people
My Karen iceberg theory is that after most of the gang ran off from camp, Uncle and Mary-Beth, she was left behind at camp in a drunken state when the gang went off to rob that last train, and was kidnapped by Murfree lurking in the area due to their cave being taken, waiting for their moment to strike the dwindling gang.
She ofc, was never seen again as the Murfree are basically the Hills Have Eyes creatures of the Red Dead World.
There's no way she'd end up at a tavern so far away from the camp and Annesburg was a dry town and Van Horn was even further south.. She'd never make it alone and drunk.
Also, another iceberg, Lenny knew Dutch was full of sh*t but loved the gang, due to their clashes between that author Dutch loved so much yet every character in the main story call the player crazy when they call Evelyn Miller a "writer".
I got rdr 1 and 2 for $30 when it first came to ps5 best $30 ever spent
@@N8DogeGames that IS the best 30 dollars you could have spent
@ still playing em both
About the blue jay being Arthur, his winter outfit from the start of the game has blue jay in the name
24:36 I prefer the abnormally fast horses from RDR1. I know it’s not as realistic or immersive but I’ve played both games extensively and I never remembered using fast travel at all in RDR1. Once the honeymoon phase wears off from RDR2, you stop caring about realism and just want fun; slow horses are not fun. It’s a video game, fun should be the very first priority, followed closely by cool.
Everytime i hear "Thats the way it is" i get tears in my eyes. I think thats how emotions should be as they are created by the makers
brb crying in the club rn over Hosea's fireside speech
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The one thing that would lend credence to the Red Harlow Uncle theory would be if Uncle had the scorpion scar on his hand. Besides that, I don't think the dates line up. Red Dead Revolver takes place in the 1880s while Red Dead 2 takes place in 1899. The years just don't line up.
Ain't gonna lie man this is a W video i didn't skipped a single second watched ads cz i didn't want to start the video again and ruin the rhythm massive W keep it up
@@aishwarya8461 wow thank you friend this means a lot ❤️ I appreciate you commenting this
@CrackedJust1n don't lose the quality you have in your videos and keep it up doing great :)
I know it’s been a couple of week but I’m pretty sure that the second love interest would be the woman Arthur helps in the woods. The one who’s Husband died after they travelled out to the wild.
right.the women where arthur almost dies
wow great video, confident presentation ,good background music (danganropa) i thougt you had a big sub count ,u deserve more keep the hard work
Thank you so much! Danganronpa music never fails to bang hard
This was great to listen to while doing my homework
“Catholic fan fiction” as Dante’s Inferno is low-key hilarious, speaking as a Catholic
I'm certain Dutch had concussion in that trolley and after having one it's easy to get another one within a month, getting another 2 during ship crash and then landing in Guarma for sure caused brain damage. And it progressed because it wasn't treated... And we don't know if he didn't have few more since Arthur died.
Yo bro this vid is fire cause even though I know alot of this stuff you talked about it in a way that makes it seem really refreshing, that stuff is very hard to find now
Hey thanks man this comment actually means a lot ❤ my upmost respect goes out to you fellow canadian
just1n i fkn love you for this
flxcko7798 I fckn love you for watching
For the paranormal stuff, don’t forget the literal UFOs, ghosts, and the vampire in rdr2
1:03:51 the REAL Valentine curse is that your horse gets dirty 0.2 seconds after you entered it.
Very underrated channel, great video btw👍
Thank you!
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Who is John Jack's Biological Father? Is it Uncle, Officer Barbrady, the 1991 Denver Broncos
Find out on next week's episode of South Park!
'92 Eagles are all suspected, except Jerome Brown
Two things; one I love that you shouted out TheStrangeMan and his channel, and two I wish people would stop saying Uncle is Red Harlow 😂
I will stand by the theory until I die lol
@ I know he’s not Red Harlow, because well…. Hate to break it to you kid…… but I am Red Harlow 🤠
@@yeirishpotato5710 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Song selection at 49:13 is crazy
@@ironyfat 🤐
Bro so underrated keep up the hard work and keep making entertaining content💯
Thanks bro!
“You don’t look a day over 30 ma’am” While talking to a corpse
gotta stay charming no matter what
The Armadillo Curse is actually extremely scary, and makes so much sense
Holy shit that last entry summarizes my thoughts *exactly* on how John and Arthur are presented in the games
RDR2 being an outlet for Dan Houser's frustrations with Rockstar/Take Two along with being his final story with them is a freat theory
Arthur's cut love interest was meant to be Eliza, the mother of Arthur's son.
Great work on the video, absolute masterpiece man! 🤠👏
@@wastedspace7134 thank you so much
The love interest. Roger Clark has said in interview that his son was meant to be a new born who freezes to death on the way to Colter. So the mother, Eliza, must die during childbirth. They changed that. It explains Arthur's death sardonic wit
I wish there was a mission in Red Dead 2 that involved a tornado in some way.
this video is really well researched and i love the editing too, i just wanna let u know how awesome this is!
i know how generic my comment is but i honestly think this is the best rdr video i’ve seen, i hope this gets the attention it deserves
Not generic at all, I really appreciate that you took the time to let me know this :) It means the world thank you, people like you are the reason I want to make my videos as quality as possible
Jacks book would also have Arthur and johns journal for references for what he was too young to remember
Red dead 2 & 1 together are obviously that book
The other thing with the blue bird is that it doesn’t appear if Arthur died with low honour.
The video states you can't explore out of bounds areas without mods. Actually yes you can, on consoles too, without modding the game. It's the "hidden cave exploit" on the far West of RDR2's map where you get Arthur or John pass out drunk and they wake up out of bounds. It's perfectly possible to get to Guarma or Mexico this way, although due to the amount of traversal you have to do it's very difficult, and if you're doing it with Arthur you have to watch out for the invisible sniper in certain regions.
Also when you set up camp near the frozen lake (the original rdr2, not updated version) you can get out of the map and eventually make it to Guarma or Mexico.!
No one else seems to have noticed but I’m losing it over the danganronpa music playing in the background throughout the video!!
😂
1:23:35 I love the one you put at the end, the book, that’s why we see Arthur as our favorite, it’s who we want to be and can see parts of ourselves in but John gets kinda thrown to the side in 2 because we can see more of ourselves in John because he’s not perfect at all. His jokes aren’t as witty and they fall short all the time, he is shown as pretty dumb where as Arthur is smart and he’s funny. Jack saw it the way we did. I think that’s such beautiful writing!
I love me some Rdr content
Keep up the great work brother, can’t wait for your future gta 6 videos
3:08 if you loot him you find a letter from a doctor explaining that Nigel has DID. Gavin was one of his split personalities that vanished one day.
sad
"the one shot kid"? Yeah, one shot of whisky and he was hooked ;)
29:50 Not only that, but the bird is only there when the player gets the high honor ending with Arthur
35:10 something else to mention here is that the average gamer’s GPU or console could never even keep up with the graphics and memory capacity for Cyberpunk at the time of when that first trailer dropped. There was genuinely no reason at all for them to announce that game so early. I personally still haven’t even played it lol.
that is so true lmfao
i should've played the game before watching this 💀
Oh nah I was just trolling bro nobody actually dies in the games
oh no
At the Pleasance section of the video the Zelda music (Bottom of Well and Shadow Temple theme) was glorious! 🤣
I looooove the legend of zelda
great video Justin love your vids seriously your one of the best GTA you-tubers
Very good video my friend, you should make a GTA iceberg unless ya already did it.
i will make a gta iv & episodes from liberty city iceberg soon and just1n will make a video about this
@JustARockstarGamesFan Alrighty, & I think I was watching Justin's video last night about the GTA iceberg.
Fantastic video, man.
I'm a simple guy, I see RDR content, I click.
thanks buddy lol
RDO takes place at same time as Blackwater Heist. Or a week later. Sean tells you he lost the gang because he had to go off and do something else. So did he get "Knocked out" then when he awoke went to do the other thing before we meet him at Tanners Reach? The gang are headed North when the snow starts so Sean loses their trail. He must get caught not long after that as we rescue him in the story.
It's May of 1899 after the blackwater massacre, RDO is in 1888
42:14 I don’t want to nitpick but van horn was swapped tauetha jetty and where van horn suppose to be is out of bound. As well
These are my favorite vids bro keep making these I love watching them ❤
Thank you brother ❤
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Correction. Gertrude likely wasn't born that way, there's a photograph of a younger Gertrude in Doyle's Tavern in Saint Denis where she looks like a healthy child. There is a popular demonic posession theory around this, but then again, it's the Braithwaites we're talking about, maybe she *was* born that way and she has a twin sister or something like that.
Theres something with the deer and reed cottages. The really ragged one (I think deer cottage) if you sleep in the bed in the house until night time, when you wake up its pouring rain. Every time. And just up the hill behind the house is a dead body with someone riding up, getting off a horse and going through his pockets. Doesn't appear as tho he killed the guy tho. When googled it some people said they got a chime noise when riding through the rain. But i reckon one or both of those cottages trigger something
this video really redemptioned my red even when it was dead, thanks fish1n- i mean just1n 🤠💜
I'm happy that I red deaded your redemption
The theories that jack maraton made the whole red dead series is kinda scary in my opinion since if it is then that means that all the bank robbery missons were told to him by john, and also what if in red dead 3 at the end of it you see jack marston close the book and sell to someone else..
1:00:09 Oh, we play bridge on thursday.
HE'S TOO PURE TO NOT BE A SANE MAN
Rdr2 could've fast forwarded to Jack Marston's story as dlc.. or it could've been set at an earlier time before the incident in Blackwater that lead to the events of rdr2
would've been perfect if... They did an Undead Nightmare 2, where Jack (Is grown up), and he sees John arthur and Abigail are together (Grave yards.) because they were like family, then he walks away after he walks away, they all come out of the graves. Then Jack shoots all of them, then he sees looking out to the mountain... He See's zombies... He kills the zombies, while not talking. Unless... They are real people.
My most recent playthrough had Bill vanish after i gave him the pomade lmao, luckily i could clip it