EEEE!! I entirely forgot about morbs. I've always thought they were super hilarious because of their tentacled silliness. (I want a stuffed Puft. I shall have one, one day) I also love seeing the little balloons or other evidence of happy little duplicants. I mean yeah, "super productive" is the best trait for getting stuff done, but the others are just CUTE.
Around 14 minutes - possible missed opportunity for extra power. That extra chamber for all the extra plugs - that's free electricity until the slug starves to death that you can harness. Granted, it's not the full amount, but it's still more than 0.
Great series! You can see the other slugs as unpowered liquid and gas pumps! It would be great to see a sponge slug ranch at the bottom of the map that feeds liquids into your water sorting system! And as suggested the gas slug deal with the carbon dioxide problem at the bottom of the map venting it to space.
At 2:37, this change actually makes the carbon skimmer run less often, not more. The liquid bridge gives priority to the water going past its output. This explains what's going on with the aqua-tuners as well. A blob of water sits at the input end of the liquid bridge, and waits until there's a gap at the output end. Normally, there's a gap when the AT cycles, however if you overfill your cooling loop you might never get a gap. With no gap, the water sits in the pipe until it eventually overheats and breaks.
Prefabricated content generation. It's really the only faux intelligent thing he does. He knows how to play. He knows how to troll his audience. That's about it.
28:16 Echo forgetting you can change materials straight from the building now instead of having to issue a deconstruct and then hover impatiently waiting to slap down the new one
Plug slug ranching! (Yaay) -The carbon dioxide layer is a good move, just watch for smog slugs (unbreathable gas exposure means higher odds) -If this colony ends up running short on metal, you’re already running enough dreckos for geotuning supply (if refining phosphorus seems worth it) (This is so much fun to watch, thank you)
The geotuner is another of the many, many means of exchanging the resources you can access for other resources you want. It’s a science-type building that boosts the output of a geyser/volcano/vent in exchange for power, a supply of minerals, and a bit of duplicant attention. The mineral input varies depending on the source to be boosted. Metal volcanoes specifically require refined phosphorus. Refined phosphorus isn’t found anywhere natively, and must be processed from phosphorite, which can be dug up. However, dreckos excrete phosphorite and are easy to feed, meaning you can get a renewable source of the stuff. (Making the refined stuff is a problem all its own, though)
To consider for your Volcano tamers: When you have ice available, or if you create an ice manufacturing area (Mesh tiles and a shallow pool so the frozen ice pops up similar to when magma cools), you can build temp shift plates inside the tamer area so they melt once they get hot enough and then flash into steam, pretty darn quick. Makes it easier to math the water you're putting in as well. I also think it's time for at least a CO2 walk-in freezer, if not the proper one tile infinite freezer.
What you could do with those gassy slugs is put them at the bottom of the colony, let them absorb all that CO2 (and other gasses), and put in ductwork to pipe it into the slickster farm. Should clean it all up pretty quickly, no? Even with the overpressure, should be able to do the same trick as with the steam in the gas tank you used. Would need to filter out all the rest of the gases, but cleaning up the air in your farm by using the slugs seems like it would be fitting with the colony theme, I'd think!
8:40 - I've done the two tile high setups also, I just put the pipes going down into the tiles instead of up and don't have that flashing issue. My theory - you're having an issue where the steam turbines touch. It's somehow calculating the steam removal and flashing the pipe as if it was the steam temp (just a guess though)
Smog slugs could be super useful! That space gas dump? Just put the farm down where that carbon scrubber is, and they suck up all the Co2 and Chlorine power free and you can space it all! Its not like you lack free refined metals, and wasnt there a volcano nearby?
Maybe you could use a Smog slug Ranch built of airflow tiles to get rid of the unbreathable gasses outside of your base. Like a cage with open airflow where the slugs can take in unbreathable Gas during the day and then pump it into a pipe that leads to space. That way you could save on pumps and Filters and have a creative use for the Smog slugs. (I mean ig it's not the most efficient Method to get rid of unwanted has but yeah)
Pagoda is a little trite for a Plug Slug habitat. However, "Plugoda" is much more appropriate. We will all enjoy you try to say it during narrative, and I'm sure the slugs will appreciate the "gurgling sound".
Since you will be ranching every critter on this farm (with the exception of the evil water slugs), I would be interested to see your all-variants shine bug ranches. While not tricky per se, I found that optimizing the delivery of food to those bugs can be challenging if you want to avoid it being spoiled.
The aquatuner breakage is because of a bug, but there's a workaround. Instead of placing the bridge input on the next pipe after the tuner input, take it over to just above the output port and bridge OVER the output to just below the output port. This allows one pipe of "holding" space which appears to fix the issues with the game's temp calculations.
With the carbon skimmer, to ensure it runs (near) 100% of the time - you could add a liquid valve to the mainline coming from the tank and set it to a value of max minus the skimmer output (I haven't fired up the game in a while so I will let you figure that out) - then feed the skimmer in at the valve's output - it should ensure that the output pipe runs at a constant 10kg - as long as 10kg/s is consumed :) Hope this helps
If you’re already making an oven, try giving mushroom quiche a go! It’s the best quality food you can give to your dupes at the moment (even better than surf’n’turf) and quite easy to make. You already have the omellets and mushrooms, and you only need about 2 seaweeds per dupe when making that recipe. Hope you give it a go!
02:28 Laughed my butt off at that one lonely little carbon skimmer :'D Can't wait to see what you do with the voles. Every time I look at a plank or evolution chamber, it makes me think omelettes will be on the menu!
12:43 - "a drop-off, NOT made of steel" - and sure enough, the grooming station WAS made of steel :D Then again, I find making slug ranch equipment out of finer metals beneficial, in only marginally - as slugs don't eat steel/niobium/thermium, any later fixes to the layout don't risk letting the slug eat the material from deconstructed buildings/rails etc that were made out of difficult-to-renew ores.
To make the lower map carbon skimmer run at full capacity, you could make a small water loop with a water sieve dedicated to the skimmer. Perhaps even add buffer tank if that makes you happy :D
Also I just realized that gas slugs only consume non-breathable gases. A bit too much safety, I would say. Imagine a random gas slug inside the base, slowly eating away all the oxygen, and Echo frantically trying to figure out why the usual SPOM setup is not giving enough oxygen
The carbon skimmer can be hooked up to a dedicated water sieve then loop it back into the carbon skimmer it will run constantly until there is no more carbon. Might want to put some automation on it and don't over fill the water going in other wise it will stall.
Came here to suggest that, but I'm not really a very good ONI player, lol, so didn't know if there was a glaringly obvious reason why he doesn't do that when using the carbon skimmer.
Good morning Echo! I am still loving the series but was wondering if you should tame every critter? I know things like the sponge slug have little use but they are still cute and would fit the farm theme. Keep up the great work, and thanks for another episode! I see you there at the end screen birthday boy
Quick tip to anyone who wants to get even more out of a giant pacu tank- keep the eggs above the water so the newly hatched pacu have to flop in themselves. This way, the eggs don't take up critter slots and your adults breed just a little bit more before getting cramped. It will take automation and moving of eggs, though, so it might not be worth it depending on colony size.
If you're concerned about refined metals at all and/or want to ranch more slugs, you could always geotune your volcanoes. Geotuning is such an underrated and underutilized feature by any of the major YTers, and in addition to showing off how useful it is, you could spend an episode building a phosphorous refinement setup. Phosphorite refinement is an annoying process because you have to heat the material to ~250C to melt it, but it won't refreeze until ~40C. Putting together a system that will efficiently do that is tricky. While I have figured it out after many, many attempts, I think it would make geotuning more accessible if more people had a guide to look towards
Ive made refined Phosphorite using the rocket exhaust. Just build an insulated box below the rocket output and build steel tiles with some smart storage bins auto loaded with a sweeper. Set the load limit on the storage bin low like 50kg or less. ( melts faster with less) then fill the air with hydrogen. you can make the bins in a V pattern with one sweeper accessing 8 smart storage bins at the bottom of the V pattern and a conveyor receptacle in the center of the V pattern to preheat the incoming Phosphorite. When a blastoff occurs it heats the tiles and phosphorite in the storage bins and drips down the tiles to the center where you can cool it in some cold water to turn in refined phosphorite. Mine has a chilling pipe in Co2 gas just below the hydrogen so its less likely to cool the steel tiles above surrounded in insulated tiles as much as possible except where the liquid drips out onto the pipe. Doesn't give huge amounts of refinement but its relatively free and you get more then you can ever use. But its dependent on your rocket program. Be sure to get a Dreco ranch to stay sustainable.
Considering that those pipe ruptures are the same place where my steam loops for steam rockets tend to rupture... I think you might be discounting the answer there.
For an extra guess on the aquatuner....I assume smaller packets would heat faster, so perhaps the 'occassional' nature of the problem is related to occassionaly having a partial packet of water in whatever square is causing the problem. IE. A couple hundred grams of water would flash to steam 100x faster then 20KG, which even with insulated pipes might be fast enough.
@@xarzneimittel8220 I do belive there is a mechanic like that yes. I wanna say it's something like 1KG? So maybe only 10x would be possable.... Unless, can gas packets merge and then pop the pipe? I've really not messed around with it to know for sure, but this has got to be a bunch of corner cases like that interacting oddly if it isn't a glitch.
For your liquid processing bottleneck, you might like a switch to a Rocket Platform and Rocket Platform Extension based system. The rocket port loaders and unloaders can run in parallel as long as they are connected to the same horizontal line of platforms. You get extremely good throughput and it's very easy to setup. You can bridge over gaps with an extra platform or build a bridge to support the extensions. Each port will accept/deliver a full pipe and all it requires is a liquid cargo tank sitting on a platform somewhere along the line. Also works for gasses and even for solids if you're feeling silly.
Its most likely the water freezing in the pipes, ONI still seems to be inconsistant from time to time and sending a green signal still even if the fluid is already at the intended temperature, the last aquatuner not having those issues is evidence for this as the water in the pipes never even got close to the shutoff temperature. I had this happen before so I sometimes just tend to set the temperature higher then what is technically possible, so instead of -5.5° for poluted water I just set it to 10°, never have issues in those types of setups.
@@tdx6801 Actually you are right, I thought it was the other way around. Then the answer is alot simpler, water gets stuck in the bridge input waiting for the other side to leave a empty slot, but because there is a constant flow of cooling it cant move on resulting in the water in the pipe slowly heating up. This only becomes an issue for aquatuners that switch from being on to off alot while being attached to a loop that is FULLY filled with water, i.e. in this case attached to a water resoirvoir, this is why you always need to have 2 empty slots in your cooling loop so when it rotates once this single slot of water can jump the bridge.
@@santifocus7432 Or another way (though only possible cause in this design the tile the aquatuner's on is an insulated tile) is to put the bridge inside the insulated tiles. Liquid in it will be in insulated tile's temperature and as long as the tile interacts with the outside environment (surely you don't put it in a vacuum) it will never be too hot to burst liquids in it. Only problem is the liquid "spaghetti" design as the bridge position is slightly changed but in echo's design I can see 1 workable design for the problem.
For gases other than steam in your sauna... I usually have a little vertical tunnel beside the steam turbine, connected by a door to the sauna. Open door, all light gases including oxygen and polluted oxygen float up there. Close door, pump out the tunnel. Open door if more gas remains 😊
It's possible that the polluted oxygen came from the times when the CO2 pressure was much lower at the bottom of the sauna. I've seen where the polluted water drips can sometimes puff a thing of PO2 right as it lands, before flashing to steam, when there's a low-pressure layer of CO2 surrounding the drip
5:43 Your overflow containers need some alarm. You could hook a automation wire to a Automated Notifier, Hammer and/or Lamp set to red coloration. Anything to draw your attention. - Smog Slugs are just Air pumps. Sponge Slugs are just liquid pumps. Their only value is the power they save. I guees you could use them anywhere you need a power-free backup option? Just in case you ever run out of power? Having small 1-2 unit stables over the base. 15:04 I think a gas filter could do it. Feed the wrong gasses back into the stable. For power saving, add a gas pipe sensor and a timer to toggle off the pump.
Ive done it before with smog slugs. Try having them above your plug slugs since they only transfer non-breathable gases they'll filter out the hydrogen and pump it. Trading out automation and electric pumps for a critter to do it for ya
You can figure out whether the bridge is the culprit by putting that bridge below AT inside the bottom insulated tile floor. Also, while you are right that the bridge does not hold the water inside of it, both left and right ends of the bridge have pipe segments behind them, which DO hold water. You can see those if you deconstruct the bridge.
@@j.n.-fr5uh Yes, they are. But they still exchange heat, even though very slowly. When water is moving through them, it's not enough to heat it up. But if a blob of water is sitting in that insulated pipe segment for dozens of cycles, it will eventually reach the flashing temperature.
Or rather the way I understand it, the scenario you describe should happen with an Aquatuner that is running a long time and so the water in the bridge doesnt move, right?
@@j.n.-fr5uh Correct. This scenario needs AT running 100% of the time for dozens of cycles. Which, according to Echo, was not the case. So yeah, most likely a game bug, maybe due to 10x speed or some other shenanigans.
28:11 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you are deconstructing the power transformer and then ordering it rebuilt as a separate command, when there's a function to do this in a single step, by selecting the building, clicking the materials tab and then the change material button. Or is that actually less effective somehow?
I hope this time, we don't drive the Beeta extinct with hydrogen rocket exhaust. I feel like, if anything, it's Water Weed that I'm sort of curious to see, because it's just such a messy plant to domesticate.
I like using a gas pipe element sensor hooked up to an inline gas vent. It's cheap, unpowered insurance against mixed gasses, but if you send it alternating empty/full packets, it gets glitchy.
Can confirm and this also happened in my game, if the liquid gets to hot and flashes or freezes inside the pipe, it will break. Had this happen on my metal refinery while using water as a coolant. I know to use another liquid, but I am not there yet, and I did not want to just keep losing metal to the rock crusher.
I ended up setting a bunch of wild smog slugs at the bottom of my map as passive junk gas skimmers and honestly it's a bit of a hassle but honestly they were getting some decent work done cleaning my planetoid
There's actually a menu that lets you automatically replace the material of buildings you got wrong. It isn't totally ideal, for standard buildings they still deconstruct it before building the new one, like you do with tiles, but it still means you don't have to come back after deconstructing the first one.
For the aquatuner and bridge, try using a ceramic bridge. Also try putting a temp shift plate behind the top left of the AT necause thats where its heat is sent. And last try putting the bridge below the AT and not above/behind it. Ive seen others say this new patch caused their AT builds to also start failing. Quite a few on reddit.
when you feed natural gas generator or hydrogen generator with wrong gas, The wrong gas sent to environment. That explains your polluted oxygen problem in the sauna
@@xarzneimittel8220 A Geotunner is a building that enhances the output and temperature of any volcanoes, geysers and vents. It requires specific materials for activation depending of the volcano but in essence, that is it. You can look for more info on that Station in the Oxygen Not Included Wiki.
For the insulated pipes issue: try hiding the liquid bridge pipes in the insulated tiles coz sometimes the insulated pipe that goes into the input of the liquid bridge mistakenly inherits the stats of the Liquid bridge. It's an uncommon occurrence but it happens.
Hey echo I've seen a cool setup from another series that uses the bees and a carnivorous plant to make hydrogen I think it looks cool but idk if it fits this colony theme, mean kinda does, one setup u plant crops to eat critters and other you use critter to feed plants?
I thought the point was to do something with *every* critter, not just one variant of each family of critters. Even if impractical id still like to see how youd use sponge/smog slugs!
For the AT issues, I always put my bridges in the insulated tile and I never get the pipe break issues. The bridges have weird heat transfer issues. I’ve done 2 high and 3 high and never break pipes, unless I mess up the temp sensor.
I think something has changed with bridges to transfer more heat, they definitely transfer heat more than they used to, not sure if that is a bug that was recently introduced. My suggestion is to investigate the "double bridge" setup of aquatuners, in the early days of ONI, you had to use a double bridge to keep liquid packets moving with aquatuners before that was fixed, I still always use double bridge setups with my aquatuners even if you didn't need to as it was beat into my play style. I think you are getting packets stuck in your pipes and the bridges are transferring more heat to them, maybe
That's your pipe breaking not the tuner what happening is the water is running through the tuner and one blob is staying at the space before the bridge to long and bursting as it doesn't have priority on the line it leads to there is a configuration for the bridge to go over the exit of the tuner and doesn't have that space to sit
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Keep vigilant Echo, the sponge slugs will strike. We must be ready.
Doors. Always build doors. I hate those slugs
Plug slug is a slug that plugs.
Slug plug would be plug that slugs.
slug plug is a plug thats also slug, but a plug slug is a slug thats also a plug
similar to how a redneck is a neck that is red
Getting some woodchuck vibes here.
Very useful indeed.
My favorite thing is how often echo goes "not made out of steel" it makes my day to know I am not the only one
We may not remember, but the game does!
EEEE!! I entirely forgot about morbs. I've always thought they were super hilarious because of their tentacled silliness. (I want a stuffed Puft. I shall have one, one day) I also love seeing the little balloons or other evidence of happy little duplicants. I mean yeah, "super productive" is the best trait for getting stuff done, but the others are just CUTE.
I love how he says “small cooling loop” proceeds to go around the map with it. 😊
big loop but small cool
Yeah his english comprehension and usage begs whether he actually knows it or was only taught in public school.
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489the heck?
Around 14 minutes - possible missed opportunity for extra power. That extra chamber for all the extra plugs - that's free electricity until the slug starves to death that you can harness. Granted, it's not the full amount, but it's still more than 0.
Good point!
Don't they make less and less the hungrier they're? Just curious, never tamed them yet
You are by far my favorite ONI content creator.
Thank you for another fun episode. ♥
Thank you. :)
That's sad.
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489you're sad ❤
Great series!
You can see the other slugs as unpowered liquid and gas pumps! It would be great to see a sponge slug ranch at the bottom of the map that feeds liquids into your water sorting system!
And as suggested the gas slug deal with the carbon dioxide problem at the bottom of the map venting it to space.
At 2:37, this change actually makes the carbon skimmer run less often, not more. The liquid bridge gives priority to the water going past its output. This explains what's going on with the aqua-tuners as well. A blob of water sits at the input end of the liquid bridge, and waits until there's a gap at the output end. Normally, there's a gap when the AT cycles, however if you overfill your cooling loop you might never get a gap. With no gap, the water sits in the pipe until it eventually overheats and breaks.
Prefabricated content generation. It's really the only faux intelligent thing he does. He knows how to play. He knows how to troll his audience. That's about it.
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 i may not know a lot about the mechanics but i have a feeling he does sometimes forget things.
28:16 Echo forgetting you can change materials straight from the building now instead of having to issue a deconstruct and then hover impatiently waiting to slap down the new one
Plug slug ranching! (Yaay)
-The carbon dioxide layer is a good move, just watch for smog slugs (unbreathable gas exposure means higher odds)
-If this colony ends up running short on metal, you’re already running enough dreckos for geotuning supply (if refining phosphorus seems worth it)
(This is so much fun to watch, thank you)
Geo - what? Mind to explain further? I'm kinda new
The geotuner is another of the many, many means of exchanging the resources you can access for other resources you want. It’s a science-type building that boosts the output of a geyser/volcano/vent in exchange for power, a supply of minerals, and a bit of duplicant attention.
The mineral input varies depending on the source to be boosted. Metal volcanoes specifically require refined phosphorus.
Refined phosphorus isn’t found anywhere natively, and must be processed from phosphorite, which can be dug up. However, dreckos excrete phosphorite and are easy to feed, meaning you can get a renewable source of the stuff.
(Making the refined stuff is a problem all its own, though)
@@Quinge29871 oh my! Super interesting! I will try to reach lategame for once just to finally interact with all this cool stuff!
To consider for your Volcano tamers: When you have ice available, or if you create an ice manufacturing area (Mesh tiles and a shallow pool so the frozen ice pops up similar to when magma cools), you can build temp shift plates inside the tamer area so they melt once they get hot enough and then flash into steam, pretty darn quick. Makes it easier to math the water you're putting in as well.
I also think it's time for at least a CO2 walk-in freezer, if not the proper one tile infinite freezer.
What you could do with those gassy slugs is put them at the bottom of the colony, let them absorb all that CO2 (and other gasses), and put in ductwork to pipe it into the slickster farm. Should clean it all up pretty quickly, no? Even with the overpressure, should be able to do the same trick as with the steam in the gas tank you used.
Would need to filter out all the rest of the gases, but cleaning up the air in your farm by using the slugs seems like it would be fitting with the colony theme, I'd think!
The guy literally cannot understand complex concepts like this. It's not that it isn't effective, he can't do it.
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489oh my now i see ! You're just a hater. Thank you for the engagement ❤
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Unnecessary.
Plug Slug Ranch Name: B.O.B.
Battery of Bugs
Gas plug slugs seem like a good way to have power free gas pumps
8:40 - I've done the two tile high setups also, I just put the pipes going down into the tiles instead of up and don't have that flashing issue.
My theory - you're having an issue where the steam turbines touch. It's somehow calculating the steam removal and flashing the pipe as if it was the steam temp (just a guess though)
10:36 "Plug Splug" 😄
Smog slugs could be super useful! That space gas dump? Just put the farm down where that carbon scrubber is, and they suck up all the Co2 and Chlorine power free and you can space it all! Its not like you lack free refined metals, and wasnt there a volcano nearby?
This is a more than fair point.
He knows. He just hates his viewers.
Smog Slug: Perfect for a no machinery run.
Maybe you could use a Smog slug Ranch built of airflow tiles to get rid of the unbreathable gasses outside of your base.
Like a cage with open airflow where the slugs can take in unbreathable Gas during the day and then pump it into a pipe that leads to space.
That way you could save on pumps and Filters and have a creative use for the Smog slugs.
(I mean ig it's not the most efficient Method to get rid of unwanted has but yeah)
Pagoda is a little trite for a Plug Slug habitat. However, "Plugoda" is much more appropriate. We will all enjoy you try to say it during narrative, and I'm sure the slugs will appreciate the "gurgling sound".
Since you will be ranching every critter on this farm (with the exception of the evil water slugs), I would be interested to see your all-variants shine bug ranches. While not tricky per se, I found that optimizing the delivery of food to those bugs can be challenging if you want to avoid it being spoiled.
The aquatuner breakage is because of a bug, but there's a workaround. Instead of placing the bridge input on the next pipe after the tuner input, take it over to just above the output port and bridge OVER the output to just below the output port. This allows one pipe of "holding" space which appears to fix the issues with the game's temp calculations.
With the carbon skimmer, to ensure it runs (near) 100% of the time - you could add a liquid valve to the mainline coming from the tank and set it to a value of max minus the skimmer output (I haven't fired up the game in a while so I will let you figure that out) - then feed the skimmer in at the valve's output - it should ensure that the output pipe runs at a constant 10kg - as long as 10kg/s is consumed :) Hope this helps
If you’re already making an oven, try giving mushroom quiche a go! It’s the best quality food you can give to your dupes at the moment (even better than surf’n’turf) and quite easy to make. You already have the omellets and mushrooms, and you only need about 2 seaweeds per dupe when making that recipe. Hope you give it a go!
32:00 - what I would do early game on a swampy start is build a door before breaking into a slug's cave so it doesn't escape and wreak havoc.
32:48 Slug Hut! Literally created an account just to comment this.
I’m definitely calling them plug splugs from now on
02:28 Laughed my butt off at that one lonely little carbon skimmer :'D
Can't wait to see what you do with the voles. Every time I look at a plank or evolution chamber, it makes me think omelettes will be on the menu!
12:43 - "a drop-off, NOT made of steel" - and sure enough, the grooming station WAS made of steel :D
Then again, I find making slug ranch equipment out of finer metals beneficial, in only marginally - as slugs don't eat steel/niobium/thermium, any later fixes to the layout don't risk letting the slug eat the material from deconstructed buildings/rails etc that were made out of difficult-to-renew ores.
To make the lower map carbon skimmer run at full capacity, you could make a small water loop with a water sieve dedicated to the skimmer. Perhaps even add buffer tank if that makes you happy :D
Whatever could be better than Ice Cream, being sick and an Echo upload!
Responsibility, raising children, building your community...
Even going outside, with that list.
Also I just realized that gas slugs only consume non-breathable gases. A bit too much safety, I would say. Imagine a random gas slug inside the base, slowly eating away all the oxygen, and Echo frantically trying to figure out why the usual SPOM setup is not giving enough oxygen
Can't wait to watch this when I'm off work!
Im buff!? Good to know!
Plant murderer is only somewhat true! But i do love critters
I'm looking forward to seeing a lettuce farm.
The carbon skimmer can be hooked up to a dedicated water sieve then loop it back into the carbon skimmer it will run constantly until there is no more carbon. Might want to put some automation on it and don't over fill the water going in other wise it will stall.
Came here to suggest that, but I'm not really a very good ONI player, lol, so didn't know if there was a glaringly obvious reason why he doesn't do that when using the carbon skimmer.
Good morning Echo! I am still loving the series but was wondering if you should tame every critter? I know things like the sponge slug have little use but they are still cute and would fit the farm theme. Keep up the great work, and thanks for another episode!
I see you there at the end screen birthday boy
Quick tip to anyone who wants to get even more out of a giant pacu tank- keep the eggs above the water so the newly hatched pacu have to flop in themselves. This way, the eggs don't take up critter slots and your adults breed just a little bit more before getting cramped. It will take automation and moving of eggs, though, so it might not be worth it depending on colony size.
If you're concerned about refined metals at all and/or want to ranch more slugs, you could always geotune your volcanoes. Geotuning is such an underrated and underutilized feature by any of the major YTers, and in addition to showing off how useful it is, you could spend an episode building a phosphorous refinement setup.
Phosphorite refinement is an annoying process because you have to heat the material to ~250C to melt it, but it won't refreeze until ~40C. Putting together a system that will efficiently do that is tricky. While I have figured it out after many, many attempts, I think it would make geotuning more accessible if more people had a guide to look towards
Ive made refined Phosphorite using the rocket exhaust. Just build an insulated box below the rocket output and build steel tiles with some smart storage bins auto loaded with a sweeper. Set the load limit on the storage bin low like 50kg or less. ( melts faster with less) then fill the air with hydrogen. you can make the bins in a V pattern with one sweeper accessing 8 smart storage bins at the bottom of the V pattern and a conveyor receptacle in the center of the V pattern to preheat the incoming Phosphorite. When a blastoff occurs it heats the tiles and phosphorite in the storage bins and drips down the tiles to the center where you can cool it in some cold water to turn in refined phosphorite. Mine has a chilling pipe in Co2 gas just below the hydrogen so its less likely to cool the steel tiles above surrounded in insulated tiles as much as possible except where the liquid drips out onto the pipe. Doesn't give huge amounts of refinement but its relatively free and you get more then you can ever use. But its dependent on your rocket program. Be sure to get a Dreco ranch to stay sustainable.
Considering that those pipe ruptures are the same place where my steam loops for steam rockets tend to rupture... I think you might be discounting the answer there.
The plug slug habitat could be decorated to look like a rocket.
For an extra guess on the aquatuner....I assume smaller packets would heat faster, so perhaps the 'occassional' nature of the problem is related to occassionaly having a partial packet of water in whatever square is causing the problem.
IE. A couple hundred grams of water would flash to steam 100x faster then 20KG, which even with insulated pipes might be fast enough.
But didn't pipes like, not break if under 10 kg? Like with liquid oxygen and such, or am i confused?
@@xarzneimittel8220 I do belive there is a mechanic like that yes. I wanna say it's something like 1KG? So maybe only 10x would be possable....
Unless, can gas packets merge and then pop the pipe? I've really not messed around with it to know for sure, but this has got to be a bunch of corner cases like that interacting oddly if it isn't a glitch.
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For your liquid processing bottleneck, you might like a switch to a Rocket Platform and Rocket Platform Extension based system. The rocket port loaders and unloaders can run in parallel as long as they are connected to the same horizontal line of platforms. You get extremely good throughput and it's very easy to setup. You can bridge over gaps with an extra platform or build a bridge to support the extensions. Each port will accept/deliver a full pipe and all it requires is a liquid cargo tank sitting on a platform somewhere along the line. Also works for gasses and even for solids if you're feeling silly.
Its most likely the water freezing in the pipes, ONI still seems to be inconsistant from time to time and sending a green signal still even if the fluid is already at the intended temperature, the last aquatuner not having those issues is evidence for this as the water in the pipes never even got close to the shutoff temperature. I had this happen before so I sometimes just tend to set the temperature higher then what is technically possible, so instead of -5.5° for poluted water I just set it to 10°, never have issues in those types of setups.
But then it'll be the output pipe of the Aquatuner that gets flashed, not the bridge input pipe.
@@tdx6801 Actually you are right, I thought it was the other way around.
Then the answer is alot simpler, water gets stuck in the bridge input waiting for the other side to leave a empty slot, but because there is a constant flow of cooling it cant move on resulting in the water in the pipe slowly heating up. This only becomes an issue for aquatuners that switch from being on to off alot while being attached to a loop that is FULLY filled with water, i.e. in this case attached to a water resoirvoir, this is why you always need to have 2 empty slots in your cooling loop so when it rotates once this single slot of water can jump the bridge.
@@santifocus7432 Or another way (though only possible cause in this design the tile the aquatuner's on is an insulated tile) is to put the bridge inside the insulated tiles. Liquid in it will be in insulated tile's temperature and as long as the tile interacts with the outside environment (surely you don't put it in a vacuum) it will never be too hot to burst liquids in it. Only problem is the liquid "spaghetti" design as the bridge position is slightly changed but in echo's design I can see 1 workable design for the problem.
I think the Plug Pavilion or Plug Pillar are pretty reasonable names
For gases other than steam in your sauna... I usually have a little vertical tunnel beside the steam turbine, connected by a door to the sauna. Open door, all light gases including oxygen and polluted oxygen float up there. Close door, pump out the tunnel. Open door if more gas remains 😊
a horizontal door, at the floor level?
It's possible that the polluted oxygen came from the times when the CO2 pressure was much lower at the bottom of the sauna. I've seen where the polluted water drips can sometimes puff a thing of PO2 right as it lands, before flashing to steam, when there's a low-pressure layer of CO2 surrounding the drip
You need to do the sponge slugs in a hazmat containment unit!
My aquatuner setup that leaks polluted water is also in a 2-high room.
I have to say that 10:37 plug splugs is a new one for me!
5:43 Your overflow containers need some alarm. You could hook a automation wire to a Automated Notifier, Hammer and/or Lamp set to red coloration. Anything to draw your attention.
- Smog Slugs are just Air pumps. Sponge Slugs are just liquid pumps. Their only value is the power they save. I guees you could use them anywhere you need a power-free backup option? Just in case you ever run out of power?
Having small 1-2 unit stables over the base.
15:04 I think a gas filter could do it. Feed the wrong gasses back into the stable.
For power saving, add a gas pipe sensor and a timer to toggle off the pump.
The plug slug bungalow needs a critter condo!
Doh! You are right!
Ive done it before with smog slugs. Try having them above your plug slugs since they only transfer non-breathable gases they'll filter out the hydrogen and pump it.
Trading out automation and electric pumps for a critter to do it for ya
I have learned a lot by watching your episodes.
10:16 no one tell him about that one bit of salt under the thermal sensor it'll drive him crazy
You can use shine bugs for research radiation
If you put the filter gate after the and gate, then you only need one filter gate to get the same result.
You can figure out whether the bridge is the culprit by putting that bridge below AT inside the bottom insulated tile floor.
Also, while you are right that the bridge does not hold the water inside of it, both left and right ends of the bridge have pipe segments behind them, which DO hold water. You can see those if you deconstruct the bridge.
thise pipe segments arent part of the bridge tho, right? those are insulated pipes afaik
@@j.n.-fr5uh Yes, they are. But they still exchange heat, even though very slowly. When water is moving through them, it's not enough to heat it up. But if a blob of water is sitting in that insulated pipe segment for dozens of cycles, it will eventually reach the flashing temperature.
Isnt the system built in a way to prevent sitting water tho? I dont understand how that could happen
Or rather the way I understand it, the scenario you describe should happen with an Aquatuner that is running a long time and so the water in the bridge doesnt move, right?
@@j.n.-fr5uh Correct. This scenario needs AT running 100% of the time for dozens of cycles. Which, according to Echo, was not the case. So yeah, most likely a game bug, maybe due to 10x speed or some other shenanigans.
I'm really excited to see what you'll be using all that power for!
@echo ridge...clearly it's the Slug Shack!
28:11 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you are deconstructing the power transformer and then ordering it rebuilt as a separate command, when there's a function to do this in a single step, by selecting the building, clicking the materials tab and then the change material button.
Or is that actually less effective somehow?
I'm really looking forward to seeing you make CURRIED BEANS!!
So elegant aquatuner fix! 😍
Volcano plugging with plug slugs
This is such a good series.
My first thought was plug slug silo. 'Cause it looks like a silo
10:36 Plug Splugs? That's a new one
I hope this time, we don't drive the Beeta extinct with hydrogen rocket exhaust.
I feel like, if anything, it's Water Weed that I'm sort of curious to see, because it's just such a messy plant to domesticate.
27:00 they do not! it's only butt under that fluff/scale
35:23 Echo you haven't liquid locked the stable so the hydrogen gas is "rarely" leaking out of the system
For the liquid processing, you could do the ethanol & other non-water first and then send it to the big water tanks
FINALLY
SLUG TIME
I like using a gas pipe element sensor hooked up to an inline gas vent. It's cheap, unpowered insurance against mixed gasses, but if you send it alternating empty/full packets, it gets glitchy.
Name for the Plug Slugs. Plug Patio or Slug Saloon
20:14 heat is leaking because of obsidian (bottom left of volcano)
ECHO YOUR OBSIDIAN
nooo don't tell him, it's amusing
im convinced that the broken pipe is just a bug that occurs near the aquatuner on save/load
Yes, I've seen it frequently, even in Tuners that are in open air....
thank you sir have a great day
One would think you'd be storing all that CO2 and chlorine so you'd have extra food for slicksters and pufts
I see you, Echo. May the Fourth be with you. 🕯
Can confirm and this also happened in my game, if the liquid gets to hot and flashes or freezes inside the pipe, it will break. Had this happen on my metal refinery while using water as a coolant. I know to use another liquid, but I am not there yet, and I did not want to just keep losing metal to the rock crusher.
I ended up setting a bunch of wild smog slugs at the bottom of my map as passive junk gas skimmers and honestly it's a bit of a hassle but honestly they were getting some decent work done cleaning my planetoid
There's actually a menu that lets you automatically replace the material of buildings you got wrong.
It isn't totally ideal, for standard buildings they still deconstruct it before building the new one, like you do with tiles, but it still means you don't have to come back after deconstructing the first one.
For the aquatuner and bridge, try using a ceramic bridge. Also try putting a temp shift plate behind the top left of the AT necause thats where its heat is sent. And last try putting the bridge below the AT and not above/behind it.
Ive seen others say this new patch caused their AT builds to also start failing. Quite a few on reddit.
when you feed natural gas generator or hydrogen generator with wrong gas, The wrong gas sent to environment. That explains your polluted oxygen problem in the sauna
Oh! I thought it just damaged the machine. But if it also spits out the gas, that makes sense
i love this series
You can always use the Geotunner building to get more output from the volcanoes.
😮 what is it? Im kinda new
@@xarzneimittel8220 A Geotunner is a building that enhances the output and temperature of any volcanoes, geysers and vents.
It requires specific materials for activation depending of the volcano but in essence, that is it.
You can look for more info on that Station in the Oxygen Not Included Wiki.
For the insulated pipes issue: try hiding the liquid bridge pipes in the insulated tiles coz sometimes the insulated pipe that goes into the input of the liquid bridge mistakenly inherits the stats of the Liquid bridge. It's an uncommon occurrence but it happens.
I wonder how many more episodes it will be until you realize that the Iron volcano isn't fully insulated and is leaking heat into its surroundings?
there has to be something wrong with the bridge on the aquatuners. it only passes coolant when it is cooling @8:40
Hey echo I've seen a cool setup from another series that uses the bees and a carnivorous plant to make hydrogen
I think it looks cool but idk if it fits this colony theme, mean kinda does, one setup u plant crops to eat critters and other you use critter to feed plants?
I thought the point was to do something with *every* critter, not just one variant of each family of critters. Even if impractical id still like to see how youd use sponge/smog slugs!
Drinking game for every name of that creature mentioned
Thank you, more please
For the AT issues, I always put my bridges in the insulated tile and I never get the pipe break issues. The bridges have weird heat transfer issues. I’ve done 2 high and 3 high and never break pipes, unless I mess up the temp sensor.
he missed the morb
Is there one in the industrial brick?
I think something has changed with bridges to transfer more heat, they definitely transfer heat more than they used to, not sure if that is a bug that was recently introduced. My suggestion is to investigate the "double bridge" setup of aquatuners, in the early days of ONI, you had to use a double bridge to keep liquid packets moving with aquatuners before that was fixed, I still always use double bridge setups with my aquatuners even if you didn't need to as it was beat into my play style. I think you are getting packets stuck in your pipes and the bridges are transferring more heat to them, maybe
That's your pipe breaking not the tuner what happening is the water is running through the tuner and one blob is staying at the space before the bridge to long and bursting as it doesn't have priority on the line it leads to there is a configuration for the bridge to go over the exit of the tuner and doesn't have that space to sit
Plug Slug Pagoda - Plugoda?
Would the Gas Slug not be a great way to soak up and get rid of the CO2 and Chlorine without worrying about the Carbon skimmer?