Space Quest I big boxes - common, rare, and one-of-a-kinds
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- You like big boxes? I got yer boxes! From the most common to the rarest - and a couple of one-of-a-kind - here are all the variants of the physical releases of Space Quest I, both the 1986 original and the 1991 remake.
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00:00 Pointlessly long intro
00:25 Preamble
03:22 The Rocket Box
09:16 The contents of the box
15:17 The Screenshot Box (and Mirrored variant)
16:40 The 1991 VGA Remake box
17:36 Inside the Remake box
20:49 The 1991 VGA Remake box... but EGA
22:05 The Remake in the "Wrong" Box
24:06 The Remake on CD-ROM? (KIXX release)
25:11 The Black Box
28:12 The "Flat" Black Box
30:47 The most rare Black Box in existence
35:08 Ending mouth babble
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Those Space Quest EGA remake disks are double density (DD) disks, having only a capacity of 720 kilobytes. The VGA version disks are high density (HD), containing 1.44 megabytes. Not all disk drives could read HD disks, and Sierra probably guessed that people with EGA cards might have those older drives as well. Maximum compatibility.
Probably not many DD disks were manufactured at that time any more, which might explain the colour variation of the disks. They were scraping the bottoms of the barrels from suppliers.
Ah, that makes perfect sense, actually. Good call! Thanks!
@@synchronos1 Yep, I'm thinking that was not uncommon for them. My Kings Quest V disks are an assortment of black and beige, and my Conquests of Camelot 3.5" ones are blue and beige (though its 10x 5.25" disks are all black).
And the machine I had that was limited to EGA also was indeed also limited to double-density disks (albeit 5.25" only).
I dare say there is no one more deserving to keep the very first copy of Space Quest than the man who makes it his life mission to keep the spirit of Space Quest alive. Fantastic video! Thank you for sharing.
Yes, please still do these, I love how you are like the main guy for this series and was fortunate enoguh to get a one of a kind item that isn’t sellable.
Just have to say that I have a huge amount of respect for Scott Murphy for the fact that he gave you these. They're no doubt things that meant a lot to him, mementos of his own achievements in the past, but he knew that they would mean even more to you. More importantly he clearly knows that they're slices of history, that he won't be around forever, and that they need to be passed on to someone he trusts to "carry the torch", which is you. I'm sure that for you these are some of the most valuable items you own - not in terms of money but in terms of what they mean to you, and you should think about how they are gifts in kind: your own creative work (the videos you have made and the community you have helped to keep alive) are a tribute to his own creative work and I can only imagine that means the absolute world to him.
Wow what an amazing collection! The Kixx VGA game also came on 3.5 disks. I know because it was the first version of the game I ever owned 😀
The illustration of on the Official Guide to Roger Wilco is the same artwork used on my big box version of SQ4. So much awesome!!
Yes, indeed. I will be showing those versions sometime in the future. It sort of became the standard "Space Quest image" and got reused a whole bunch, including on one of the Collections as well.
I must admit, I still have my big box copy of SQ4 (floppy, non talky) and SQ5 with all the paperwork. One of my proudest saves, purchased new by myself. I still got various CD ROMS of other sierra games, mostly compilations.
30:46 You have more success in keeping the flap closed if you fixed that dog-eared corner on the flap. That’s definitely what’s preventing that side from staying down while the plastic tray is out.
Keep this series going! Must. See. SQIII.
I can think of no better person to own the first black box. It is in good hands!
As far as future content, the more the merrier!
The literal first ever? You, sir, win collecting.
Who knew being a pestering little shit at age 16 would pay off some 25-ish years later?
good stuff mate!!
I'd definitely love to see your other SQ boxes!
Great video man!! You're truly worth of having this gem in your collection, and, just for your information, you couldn't possibly make any true fan of old school sierra games jealous by having it. Just partaking in your sheer joy and happiness, makes me feel that this piece of history now belongs to all of us and could easily be on our shelves right now! Cheers!
That's really kind of you to say; thank you! ❤️
That was interesting. Please make more.
I sold a black box SQ1 sealed recently. As much as I loved it, it was too precious for the humid environment my sealed Sierra collection lives in. Sold for $3000 USD but probably could have gotten substantially more. Most importantly, it went to a good home.
More box videos! MOAR!
I knew YOU would say that. 😅
It appears that you really like this game...
The violent unboxings really put this above most unboxing videos.
I am actually careful with them, but, I mean... these boxes have been around for decades now. They are clearly not as delicate as everyone thinks. 🤣
(Also, having owned big boxes my whole life AND having a younger brother who never looked before planting his dumb ass on my bed, I think I have a pretty good authority on what it takes to actually break a big box.)
@@spacequesthistorian I mean yeah lol. Those boxes were designed to survive transit to store shelves and THEN be brought for children, they can handle a bit of rough and tumble. Floppy disks literally come in a protective shell, you're meant to be able to chuck 'em around.
Throw floppies as hard as u want just watch out for magnets.
Delicacy is an aesthetic choice, and an overrated one.
@@WannabeMarysue Yeah... I mean, obviously I'd never hurt the little fellas, but they're not the delicate little flowers that people seem to think they are. 😅
Great video. Wish i still had all my old games. Hope someone has them and they didn't end up in landfill.
Really hope so too. Did you get rid of them yourself or did your parents do it "for" you?
Oh man, you need to protect that sealed box. Needs to be in a fireproof, earthquake proof, tornado proof, etc case.
Maybe I should get Bruce Willis to help me with that.
Even with all the wonderful treasures on display here, the best of them all is still undoubtedly Roberta Vaughan.
There's more than one one-of-a-kind in this video. 😊
I think almost every one of my Space Quest boxes in my collection are from different versions😂 I really appreciate the rundown on the specific versions, makes me run to my collection! I like knowing what my games are worth but I never sell any of them It's more of like a mental happiness😅
Hey man, great video! I'd love to see some more videos about the sequel boxes.
PS: Please put that #1 sealed box in a safety deposit box or at least a bolted down fireproof safe. It's an irreplaceable piece of history (as you know!). =)
It's on a shelf in a glass cabinet in my bedroom next to all my other Space Quest boxes. I probably should find a safer place for it but I haven't really got any. At least it's safe from my cat.
@spacequesthistorian I'm still voting for safe deposit box. All it takes is one burglary, house fire, flood... you know. This is worst case scenario of course but these things do happen! At least buy a safe, man. 😅
The thought has crossed my mind. 😊
you want to know what we want to see? Easy answer is all of IT, in your own time of course. I want to call attention to how much i enjoy the editing you do , adding little bits of humor etc. it never feels heavy handed or forced or over done, Kudos! Thank you for the show and tell, and all the laughs along the way.
I got REALLY lucky when I got my SQ 1. I didn't realize it was the "rare" screen shot box with the reversed image. :-)
You certainly win the first comment on this one .. made two days before the video release date 😄
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21:33 Those 6 disks in the EGA SCI version of SQ1 are low density 720K (no hole on the upper left). So there's just 60% as much room for data on them compared to the 5 high-density disks (like in the SQ1 SCI VGA boxed version I bought at Egghead software in 1991, same place I bought SQ4).
The SQ1 AGI EGA version was kindly gifted to me, in-box, by my neighbor in 1990 (along with The Black Cauldron and KQ3). This was my introduction to graphical adventures. The SQ1 AGI box is the non-gridded original fold-out version, but it has the last version of the game (v2.2 1987-05-07) on the 2x 360K and 1x 720K disks, and a "DROIDS B US" coupon. It has a circular "Cat. No. 25-1150" Tandy sticker, and "IBM/TANDY/MS-DOS 256K EGA, CGA and Hercules 3.5 and 5.25 disks inside" triangular sticker, and UPC sticker on the lower-left corner of the back. I've not seen any picture on the Internet matching this (the 25-1150 sticker, yes, but not the system requirements sticker).
@synchronos1 beat you to it, but thank you for the explanation! 😁
Oh well :-) I did look through the comments to see if anyone else had pointed it out, and at the time I loaded there were none that did.
Lovely topic 🧩 I've really been looking forward to watching this one. It's heart warming to see another one care about the same things in life. This video made me smile. So: I did not know about the EGA remake version of SQ1. I've always wanted to try out KQ4 "AGI backup version" though (made because: should the VGA version not materialise in time for its release date). Now I really want to play SQ1 EGA too. Can't remember learning about the black boxes before you presented them here. Interesting! And wow! That gift of the first box. I mean, just incredible! It's not about moneys worth. To me it's pure kindness as he knew how much the box would mean to you. Very kind of Scott to pass it along. Oh, and I spent HOURS on their BBS long distance from Sweden. Sorry mom and dad 😇
The EGA version of SQ1VGA is the same game; the graphics have just been downgraded to 16 colors. The AGI version of KQ4, however, is almost an entirely different game. Granted, it's the same game as the SCI version in theory, but EVERYTHING was redone - graphics, sound, gameplay - because it runs on a totally different engine. It is worth a playthrough just to see what corners they had to cut to make it work.
@@spacequesthistorian Thanks for the info about both games. Although “just” a downgraded version, I love EGA graphics to the point it probably ridiculous. Yeah, I’d so much wanted to play KQ4 AGI just to learn how the music was adapted from MT32 to Peanut/Tandy style. (I remember just loving the soundtrack of KQ3.)
I feel the same way about 4 color cyan/magenta CGA, for some reason. It's objectively hideous but it just gives me a warm tinge of nostalgia every time I see it. The shot of SQ1VGA running in CGA that briefly shows up in this video isn't a fake-out, btw - one of the mad geniuses on my Discord actually got a CGA driver to work with the game.
A) great video sir, definitely keen for more, but b) holy shit, the first one EVER. I-...just-......wow. Thank you for showing us.
Thank you! I almost cut out the whole story of how I got it because I REEEEEALLY don't want to seem too full-of-myself... but the story kind of goes hand-in-hand with the box.
Very nice video, can't believe you got the first one!
Reminds me of when I found dark crystal serria adventure.....sealed just sitting in the gift shop of the center for puppetry arts in Atlanta last summer where the Jim Henson exhibit is located. I have been collecting all of the jim henson related video games and that one is so hard to find and let alone sealed wow the kicker is that it was for sale and only $100 I legit flipped out it's almost like Jim was watching over me in that moment he was like you traveled so far just for me and you have been hunting down every one of my games well...here kid even tho I'm a grown 36 year old adult. There is still 1 game I'm missing and it is Gelfling Adventure but that game is so hard to find like almost impossible. Good thing the game is practically the same thing as dark crystal.
I think that last word under Cindy's name might be "love".
I thought so, too, but I didn't want to guess. Also, wouldn't people normally write "love" first and THEN their name?
Could have been an afterthought.
to me it looks like "Cindy Lou" as in "Cindy-Lou Who"
I always thought my VGA copy of SQ1 in original box was rare. Oh well, it's still special to me, I ordered it directly from Sierra and still have the receipt :D
Btw, the 256 color sticker on the front isn't the only indicator, it says VGA on the spine :P
Special > rare. I mean, look at my KIXX SQ1VGA box. It's almost completely destroyed but I'm never getting rid of it, ever.
I'm confused now. The shrink-wrapped first-ever SQ1 box Scott gave you is non-gridded. Did Sierra start without a grid, add the grid later, then take it away again for a while, before switching to the entirely different box design that you showed in the first half of this video? Mine is non-gridded too, but has v2.2 1987-05-07 on its floppy disks and "Droids B Us".
My shitty camera probably did the first-ever box a disservice. It IS, in fact, gridded. Here's a flash photo where you can see the grid reflected in the light: i.imgur.com/RW1iIti.jpeg
@@spacequesthistorian Thanks, that makes much more sense now :-) Is the grid of the same intensity as your other gridded box? It looks fainter, maybe.
Oh, and as for how incredible it is that he gave you that... WOW. That's an amazing honor. If I had that, I would feel so conflicted, I'd want to look inside. Not sure if I'd be able to restrain myself.
(I would use gloves, and take scans and KryoFlux images of the floppies. Would still be a naughty thing to do to that pristine box though, I won't deny that.)
The grid is the same intensity to the naked eye. The shrinkwrap just seems to confuse the fuck out of my phone's camera.
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Hah! As if I'd ever let go of any of these. Even the mangled-to-shit KIXX box stays with me until the grave!
Nice
THIS is what Space Quest Historian-ing is all about
They did the same thing with King's Quest 1 where they sold the remake in the same box as the original with the screenshots from the original. For years before being able to look this stuff up online, I thought they must have made a mistake with my copy.
I grew up with an Apple 2c. Never played Space Quest on it but I did play King's Quest 2 on it, and yes "turd and ass" is exactly what it ran like.
The short clip of the Apple IIc version in this video is from a full playthrough that my mate EpicPotatoFiend did. Under normal circumstances he can finish SQ1 in about 15-20 minutes. His Apple IIc video, however, is over 4 hours long.
21:15 An EGA Version of a VGA Remake of an EGA game, that's... actually perfectly appropriate for a Space Quest game and fits right with the wacky humour :)
The black box looks really sweet. I wonder why they changed it. Too expensive to make maybe?
Maybe, or they just decided to go with a different design. Same thing happened to King's Quests I-III. They came out in black boxes first, too, but were later released in slipcover boxes that have the same back design as the SQ1 rocket/screenshot boxes.
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Star Trek quote? Really? :p
They did it again in SQ5, although, to be fair, that entire game was one big Star Trek quote.
Sure, it's just ... that's a Star Wars quote ;) @@spacequesthistorian
@@sepixsound Which quote are you referring to? 'Cos I was referring to "where no man has gone before," which is very much a Star Trek quote.
At the point in your video where you show the backside of the box cover which cites Star Wars ;) @@spacequesthistorian
Wow, I just checked, and I have the copy of Space Quest 1 that you don't. 😀
The non-grid Black Box?
@spacequesthistorian I wish. I have the high density 3.5 version. And it is the old disk label format.
Ah, right. Well, good on you! I actually think I have it, too - the box I have did come with a 3½" disk, but it was labeled "Disk One," so... either some fuckery is afoot, or it is in fact the low-density version and whoever sold it to me just misplaced disk 2.
@spacequesthistorian yeah , the disks seem all over the place on how they are labeled and what color they are. You definitely have an awesome collection.
Very nice collection! So many variants as Sierra often did with a lot of their games! I have the SP1 Red Box but the label reads VGA or MCGA version.