TF2 Bug Busters: Medic Bugs
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2020
- Like bugs? Like busts? Well this video sure has one of those things! We're gonna be debunking and confirming Medics bugs. Why? Because I can!
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Oooooh an upload
Call delfy
Heavy should be next.
Engineer shold be next with the teleporter got a trap of all.
After Breakfast ok
The amount of times i shot a teammate with the crossbow and it went through em is immeasurable.
I can relate Mr.Potato Guy!
I always blamed myself thinking how the hell can I miss so badly, now I know its Gaben's fault not mine:)
@@davidmacdonald1855 Yea fr at first i thought i was crazy, but then the shit kept happening and then i was like, aight gaben how did you fuck that up
There are times where a crossbow medic will be right beside me and attempts to heal me with a crossbow yet not a single shot lands. You can almost feel the medic’s anxiety of trying to heal a soldier with the crossbow as the soldier stares back at the medic waiting
@@bobbyferg9173 Bruh I just walk to a health pack cause I don't want to add more stress to a medic lmao.
The social distancing’s really hitting hard, huh?
Nah I do that all year anyway.
Ruby West I was stuck in my room for suspected corona even though I had no respiratory symptoms
I was negative
@@SquimJim Same here lol
@@cronchtm4900 i live in texas, and my dad had a really strange illness after coming back from houston a over a month ago. All of the symptoms match corona.
@@traegoins6903 I hope he ends up ok man
Engineer bug: he has a bug cosmetic set VALVe please fix
[High-pitched YEEEEEEEEEE-]
*cries in artificial inflation*
Timberfinz TF2
Aye!
dont fix it, its good with the banjo
The uber medic bug can be seen a LOT within mvm with the canteen. Many of my friends and I have encountered it, a good 2 years. Glad to see an explanation
I noticed it when playing phlog with uber canteens
Jamie McDaniel yup, that and medic with medic memeing
it was an mvm update that caused it years ago
Double Battle Medic's problems...
It happens when a uber or a uber canteen runs out while invulnerable by another uber
I would like that spy was the next, ya' know, the disguise thing got a loooot of bugs. As an example: sometimes when you disguise as a engie you still gotting the revolver, sometimes when you disguise as a demo or pyro you appear without legs or even the head. That's why i would like spy as next
one time a few years back i could still see an enemy spies unusual effect while he was cloaked
@@chewtag same, but it was today
Lmao never happened to me, but I did see a demo with a flamethrower. Funny as fuck lmao
Spy basically *is* a bug.
Probably because of their cosmetic slots.
Medical Intervention achievent can be earned when you are the medic and falling to your death, then activating über on the quick-fix.
I go the achievement that way.
So "save a falling teammate" includes yourself as a valid teammate it seems.
One bug you could've covered was the fact that teammates lose crit heals when jumping with either the sticky jumper or rocket jumper.
For Soldier, this also resets the conch's self healing
Wow
I feel like that's probably intentional, or not important enough to care about, since if you're getting healed by a Medic, you might as well wait till full overheal before jumping anyway.
There's no point in fixing it since no one does the one thing that counters it.
Yeah, Rocket and Sticky Jumper counts as being 'Hit'
They also get lit on fire if they're under the effect of a Pyro's Gas Passer.
think its because it only checks if you've taken any damage whether or not its from an enemy or not. although idk if its the same for fall damage.
9:15 that's actually an intended feature. Back in the day medics would pop shields on themselves to combat medic and it was kinda OP.
Combat Medic
OP
Pick one
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 one
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 Combat Medic
Medic
Pick a struggle
@@joanaguayoplanell4912combat medic with 600 effective health
The bug with the no uber is very well known, when your uber, the charge drains and when it hits 0% it switches your uber state from on to off, if you get ubered while you already have uber, uber gets switched on while it was already on, then when your uber runs out, it gets switched off, leaving you vulnerable
F
It also happens to anything that can grant uber like phlog or canteens
how annoying...
This is due to the addcond/removecond system that handles uber conditions!
i've seen the arm clipping bug happen when the round ends while you're healing someone, that's how it always happens for me.
The listed bug only claimed that the secondary weapon needed to be active so I didn't think to test it while healing. But I'll try it out and mention it at the end of the next video in the series!
@@SquimJim np, i don't blame you for messing it up, the wiki just leaves out info sometimes.
@@gregorymirabella1423
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Must have been fixed I guess.
@@SquimJim huh, odd. i still commend your dedication.
@@SquimJim i know im a bit late but im pretty sure it happens if a medic has full ubercharge and their secondary is out
Still loving the new intro
Same
Maršal Josip Broz Tito
Am viding with some people who probably speaks in a different language
i prefer the old one
@@hardlyanydiggity3953 🚙 get in
The Resistance icon bug for the Vaccinator happens when your healing target switches teams/gets autobalanced.
Pretty annoying when you get autobalanced as a spy.
8:55 This was intentional, and was updated around October after Gun Mettle. This was because a medic could pop a resistance on himself, and charge the enemy with his ubersaw for a kill while he took 75% less damage from the enemy's weapon. This was a powerful battle-medic tactic, but more or less rendered an enemy in a one vs one scenario all but helpless. It was probably fixed for that reason.
the heck is melee for, then?
Btw, do you think that the uber chaining thing is intentional too?
@@nursik- no, it needs too much for it to be intentional. if it were then it would be more like "if your uber runs out, and another med ubers you within 5 secs of it fading, you don't get ubered"
@@sweglord227 lol, that's overkill, imo. The current "nerf" is enough, so that the enemy team has enough time to kill at least 1 of the medics.
I'd say it's still bugged, because if you vacc uber, the switch away and back in under 2.5 secs, the uber doesn't return
6:08 Interesting enough, a Similar bug can be found in Mann vs Machine. If you use an Ubercharge Canteen while using the Phlogistinator, and you MMPH Taunt right as you Uber Canteen is about to run out, the Uber Canteen running out will cause your MMPH taunts Uber charge to cancel out, leaving you vulnerable while MMPH taunting.
I remember a video of Soundsmith in MvM where he was using the Uber Canteen and then he used the phlog taunt but the invincibility wore off mid taunt because the Canteen ran out first.
Roughly correct on those estimates, roughly
ballparking
XD
7:12 piemations medic should’ve used the quick fix on that heavy spy
ah yes
XD
I really want to know what causes that one “I AM A GOD” bug on Juudolf’s video, if it’s still a thing.
Basically, Juudolf is a BLU scout on Dustbowl. He encounters a lone RED Medic with the syringe gun, but he is textured as if ubercharged from a Medigun. The RED Medic is killed and gibbed with 4 damage from the BLU Scout’s scattergun despite the Uber texture, and the gibs from the RED Medic are that of a BLU Medic.
That was probably a client side error, not a medic bug
@@Luizo_
It was a weird sight, though!
Client errors can do much worse, trust me, who has a shitty connection can tell
Got a link to this video?
@@kalerug
I will now proceed to rifle through Juudolf’s videos
But not for you
That is my suggestion
6:39 This is actually a part of the game i believe, I remember seeing a loading tip about it.
yeah it seems totally intentional because I'm pretty sure you also can't block capture with regular uber which makes sense. blocking with any uber would be broken
The Vaccinator bug reminded me how some players get icons permanently stick above their heads. I think it happens when they get autobalanced while an icon is active (like the vacc or marked for death)
Yesh, once I and the opposing Medic were both using the Vaccinator, and both teams were constantly quitting for it, and we ended up with a Heavy with all six shield icons stuck due to the how often he was getting auto'd.
2:52 the Soldier got sterilized
11:28 ive gotten this bug almost every time i lose, i think it might happen when you are healing a teammate and the round ends. not sure tho
Yes, it is.
Cyclaw yes, it happens to me all the time
indeed you have to be healing someone as it ends
Bit late but yeah it's if your healing someone, you can fix it by pressing your quick switch button while the round is over.
This was a really interesting video. I think you should do one on Achievement bugs. There are a few achievements I swear I followed the criteria for but just can't get. There's one where you have to kill 3 jarated enemies with your melee. I killed 3 enemies with 1 jarate many times and yet I couldn't get the achievement. I decided to give up after I hypothesized that I needed to use the stock Kukri (that sounded too hard for me) Then a few months ago (keep in mind I've been playing since 2011) I got it anyways after I killed a jarated medic with the Bushwacka. I think that you have to jarate an enemy 3 times in 1 life and only kill 1 enemy at a time.
Oh that achievement is super messed up. I was trying to get it semi-recently too and after like 2 hours of trying and doing it multiple with the Bushwacka I randomly got it after 1 Jarate kill with the Kukri. Super weird.
i killed a heavy with machine headshot and at very same second a sniper killed me headshot but that give me an achicement basicly says kill someone with huntsman when you are dead... weird
I'm VERY late but, there's an achievement where you have market garden someone with the equalizer. I somehow got the achievement by doing the kamikaze taunt using it.
@@DeskFan Yesterday I got that achievement by trying to use the Kamikaze taunt on a Scout. I missed and it gave me that achievement. I'm pretty sure that a lot of Equalizer related achievements are bugged.
11:37 my medic's arm always clips through his head and I have no idea why. I can confirim that happened today. this is confirmed
Spy should be next, he likely has some of the more interesting bugs with disguises,cloak, etc
I know I'm late but, for the bug at 1:25, this may be talking about in relation to the viewmodel. For a large amount of projectile weapons, the projectile will have a weird spawn point in first person when you are crouched (but still function perfectly fine otherwise).
The Uber starts blinking (ending) for the first medic, and until he is done being ubered, he cannot be ubered again. This is because the uber was ending on the other end. This might be able to be fixed if you switch from the medigun and then back to it.
that one where the ubër runs out when the other ubërs happens with a ubër canteen in MvM, it actually happened in a soundsmith video, one of his MvM shenanigans
There is a weird medic bug that almost nobody seems to know... If you heal enemy spies that kill your teammates will grant you assists. This makes it possible to dominate players on your own team. (Not sure if fixed)
a true gigachad dominates both teams
Man i love learning specific and usually minor inconveniences, and this series scratches that itch. Keep up the good work and don't falter.
1:52 is actually intentional, for example, if a BLU medic fired a crossbow bolt at a RED pyro, the pyro reflected it and it hit a BLU demoman, the demoman actually gets healed and doesn't take any damage.
Edit: now that I think about it, I think it was patched and it does damage to enemies, because the person who demonstrated it published the video wayy before this video came out
Thats literally one of the most well knows medic bugs out there. lol
I didn't see the most known glitch in the game here.
The ubersaw's 1000000000% critical rate
A little help for any bug testing regarding movement speeds is to use the command "cl_showpos 1" as it shows you your location in x,y and z coordinates, and it also shows your velocity in hammer units.
10:58 Seems more like an oversight on the Infernal Medicine achievement. Pyro may have afterburn immunity but it doesn't mean it can't have the afterburn status. Maybe "immunity" is the wrong term being used here.
Directly from the Wiki:
"Note that enemy Pyros cannot be set on fire (as Pyros are normally immune to afterburn), except by the Dragon's Fury and the Gas Passer. While Pyros still take contact damage from direct flame attacks, they will not take further damage over time. The Pyro does, however, count as on fire for a brief second while he appears with the charred graphical effect after taking damage from a fire-inducing weapon, and while the Pyro takes no additional damage, the Pyro can still suffer critical hits from the Sun-on-a-Stick and Flare Gun"
2:20 That happens to me every single match, i hate this bug, when i want to heal someone quickly and my arrow just pass through my teammates, it's frustrating
After Breakfast: “What class should be next?”
Me: “All of them”
Just make a 2 hour long video with all of them
This is a really good start to the series!! I'd like to see Soldier next!
This is so cool. I can't wait for this series to continue. I'm thinking that after the 9 classes you should do bugs with cosmetics and other various things in game. Also I'd like to see the pyro next, since you asked.
I feel like pyro or spy should be next, they’ve probably had their fair share of bugs
I really like this series though :)
And just when I was planning to watch "TF2: a complete history of the Medic" and saw this- I mean..I guess I can watch that other video later..?
Awesome video SquimJim, thanks so much for the upload during these trying times! Hope you are well. As for this particular bug while uberchaining, trust me, it has happened A LOT more commonly than you would think. It’s gotten me and my friends killed far more than you would believe, and has been in the game for years. The best workaround for this bug is to simply save the last two seconds of uber for staying on your mediguns for both Medics and ubering each other before Medic #2 begins his part of the chaining. It’s a little monotonous but it guarantees you will maintain your uber. That or you can just both switch off and wait a second before using the next uber. Either solution stopped us from being caught with our practitioner pants down.
That unseen medic bug you ran into I actually got a lot a year ago and I had no idea why it kept happening. Glad to know what was causing it to happen way back then.
Will you do a complete history on Soldier in honor of Rick May?
I miss the old intro tbh
the mantreads bit is probably because the stats say something like " fall damage is given 3x to the stompee when you stomp someone" & they likely just made the damage type fall damage
About that Medic über thing:
Maybe the problem is that the second über gets activated before the first über runs out. So the first über ends and cancels the second über effect on the healer, because it's more of a passive buff. But the healing target is actively übered, so it doesn't get canceled by the first über running out.
I don't know if that makes sense, but that's my theory.
UA-cam: 144p is fine
7:11 While this is indeed a bug, I don’t think it’s harmful. In fact, I think it’s beneficial because that way it reveals this person is a Spy. Which basically means that a Spy can’t “steal” and Über.
It's harmful to Spies.
It's harmful to spies and it's making spy one bit more useless, should be patched or at least minimized, however like the cloak smoke bug I believe this is just an issue of particle lingering, should be fixed none the less.
As a spy main, That's completely unfair since the spy doesn't know that, Basically another thing that fricks with spies that they can't control, Just like invisible demo legs, Invisible pyro heads, And engineer holding a flamethrower.
You've never noticed the crossbow shooting through teammates bug? Ho freaking lucky, can't tell how many times I've looked like a complete mooron by 'missing' bolts from a meter away.
Adding on to the medi gun bug; If you somehow managed to get full uber after finishing a charge, ubering your heal target again while the animation of the uber charage texture flashing is playing will cause you to be vulnerable
Last time I was this early, some angry German guy started giving speeches about facism after some art school rejected him
The Vaccinator article's "Bugs" section was updated _the day before_ this video was released; the Cow Mangler bug was replaced with the Spy disguise's backpack one.
I have a suggestion for a bug to test: It's possible to get the Master of Disguise achievement if you're being healed when getting forcibly autobalanced onto the enemy team, no matter what class you are. I had this happen to me, when I had 0 hrs on Spy. This probably happens because the game only checks if you've been recently healed by a player on the enemy team, assuming that this condition can only happen with a disguised Spy.
This was a really fun video actually, I'd love to see more
love this new series, please make more.
This channel evolved alot, nice job man!
Awesome series idea! Could be really interesting:)
That bug with the crusaders crossbow bolts going through teammates is really noticeable. I've yet to meet a medic main who hasn't struggled with it. It means you can't crossbow people at point blank range. You have to back up a few paces. I see newer medics not know this, and it's painful to watch. But it's also incredibly annoying when you forget, crossbow somebody, and their health doesn't go up.
This is a good, informative series, I hope to see more.
I'm looking forward to future episodes of this series, because it's really cool! I always thought we need to highlight the bugs in this game to show that we need more quality of life updates and bugfixes instead of new content. I mean just look at these bugs! Pretty much all of them were gameplay affecting. Stuff like this wouldn't fly in cs:go or dota 2, so we shouldn't be contempt with playing a bug riddled game.
Wow these are a lot more interesting than I thought, I really like the idea of the series too, keep up the good work :]
also just curious but history of the soldier will still come right? :D
After Breakfast is my favourite exterminator. I had a rat problem the other week and he came over but sadly only works with bugs. The rats are still here, help me.
nice
Leave us alone, we’re paying rent.
i learned in a shounic video that medic's arm being broken during humiliation was a result of inverse kinematics not being disabled. his arm is basically super glued to the gun to make sure it doesnt clip, and when you're put into the humiliation animation medic's arm tries its best to make sense of what his other two arm joints are doing based on where his hand is.
10:40 it actually makes sence considering how mantreads damage works, and apparently the "3x falling damage" is literally considered falling damage dealt to the enemy soldier stomped on
Hey btw the bug with medics arm getting twisted when going into the humiliation pose happens when you are HEALING a target when you lose. I think I saw an explanation of why it happens on some other video, but it still (sometimes) happens.
4:04
This bug can also happen with Uber canteens and the flog. This happened in one of sound Smith's MVM Shenanigans videos. Basically if you activate something that gives you Uber right as something that was ubering you just ended it will cancel out the Uber that you were supposed to get.
Video:ua-cam.com/video/qfyVApNr3tQ/v-deo.html
It happens at 1:36
That medic bug you guys discovered has been out for a couple of years. I think one of soundsmith’s mvm shenanigans had that happen
Explanation for the crossbow missing teammates (read Description)
ua-cam.com/video/ko7Soamv9Uk/v-deo.html
Really cool video idea, I’m sure the next one will be just as cool
I remember seeing the medic changing Uber bug in a sound Smith mvm video, other than that, great video!
I am a big fan of this content theme. Fantastic content as usual!
Regarding the achievements:
- The Mantreads actually deal damage that's typed as fall damage, I'm pretty sure; it just takes the fall damage the Mantreads player was slated for, triples it, and slaps it straight on the victim. Obviously that SHOULDN'T grant the achievement, but I think that's why it is.
- Pyros aren't actually immune to afterburn. I THINK the way it works is that when it tries to tick damage on a Pyro it fails and removes the afterburn effect, meaning they never take damage and it always wears off almost instantly, but there's trickshot videos all over the place of Pyros scoring Axtinguisher (pre-nerf) kills on other Pyros by connecting the weapon in the tiny window between the enemy Pyro being ignited and the damage immunity kicking in.
Since you are in Nuclues here is one for scout: you can't shoot your sandman ball or the wrap assassin ball into the middle capture point at Nucleus.
The uber bug at ~ 4:10 can also happen if you type in the console *addcond 5* which will make you ubercharged and then if a medic heals you it will completely cancel out the uber
The Medic Über cancelling bug happens quite a lot in MvM, both on the players with canteens and on the robots themselves. If a Medic-bot activates his charge and then gets pushed back into the robot safe-space that applies the "Invisible Über", (i.e. on Bigrock), then when it leaves the spawn area again it will be vulnerable, even though the patient is protected. It can sometimes make the Über Medics easier to deal with than they should be.
4:29 I've seen this one when you roll the dice on those custom servers, like 20 sec infinite uber. It happened only to the medic who activated the uber and if it was active for 8 seconds, you could be ubered again by switching weapons.
love the new series, keep it up
I seen your channel a good few times and never once noticed Big boss as the intro/Avatar for your channel
It's only 2 years late, but I added the Uberchaining bug to the Tf2 wiki :)
4:30 This bug with Ubers is present on custom robot medics in MvM too, the charge fades from the medic but not the heal target. It's a bug to do with Ubercharge duration. For some reason, the charge on the Medic will fade after a certain amount of time.
This is actually really entertaining good job
5:44 this also happens with phlog pyro in MVM. What you want to do is that get the ubercharge power-up and activate it, and before the ubercharge power-up ends, use the phlogistinator taunt, and after a short period, when the power-up ubercharge runs out, your phlogistinator's ubercharge will cancel out as well, leading to some very bad situations where phlog pyro is needed the most.
I’m new to the channel, you made really good videos. Keep it up.
Thank you!
That medic Über bug is pretty old, as far as I can remember. I remember seeing it at least a year or two ago.
I think the Spy disguise bug are more or less an indicator that they were a Spy instead of an actual bug, it'll let you know which one is friendly or an enemy. Which is a neat little detail on spotting spies. It also worked on disguising as a class the enemy doesn't have.
My best explination for the uber is that the game never expects two ubers at the same time, so a shortcut while making it removes all uber effects and not just the one that ran out
The bug with the uber-lapping (I’m calling it that) can also be seen with the phlog pyro. When the phlog pyro Uber is popped when the medi beam supplying the Uber is disconnected, the phlog Uber is also overlapped and does not have a Uber while the pyro is taunting for crits
About the vaccinator "glitch," the resistance bubble used to persist even after the medi gun was put away, but valve silently patched that out several years ago because people would "one-man uberchain" with it by popping all three resistance bubbles at once and rushing with their ubersaw.
you really love tf2 bro, moking content for it in 2020, since its obviously on hold from its devs, and hasnt had any new things in it since oh 2017, and before that, 2014. yeah bro, respect.
The vaccinator uber vanishing after switching to an another weapon was pretty intentional, because before that the bubble would stay on you for 2 seconds even after you switched to a different weapon. This lead to instances where medic could become partially invincible towards the damage he set for an infinite amount of time when combining that with the ubersaw.
so.. Myth busters v2 right?
delfy hasn't uploaded any yet
but you seem to be an epic bug buster, keep it up!
From using the Amputator, I have noticed a couple of weird interactions/bugs. The first one is that certain slopes and differences in elevation can block the effect, the second is that the range seems dependent on where are you looking in third person, teammates outside of your camera won't be affected.
There is also the Quick-Fix bug of not being able to replicate Engineer explosive jumps, due to the Sentry Gun being considered it's own entity, separate from it's builder.
The Blutsauger and Vita-Saw can affect disguised Spies. Normally "on hit" weapons don't trigger their effects on disguised Spies (ex Ubersaw) due to him being considered by the code as a teammate while disguised (this is also why the Disciplinary Action speeds up enemy Spies on hit).
Sometimes Mediguns overheal past their coded limit by 1 or 2 HP, this usually only happens when healing someone with maximum critheals.
The Crossbow's bolts are unaffected by the Back Scratcher's and Fists of Steel's respective healing penalties, despite being intentionally affected by the Equalizer's and Escape Plan's penalty.
6:02
I believe it’s a common bug with Uber in that if you have the Uber is effect, then get another source of Uber, it runs out. The most common one is in MVM with the Phlog’s Taunt and the Uber Canteen.
For the vavcinator bug, when you're healing someone and the patient gets auto balanced, the patient that you were healing that got auto balanced has a chance to keep the icon on top of his character as I watched Uncle Dane's Flava Lava video
11:35 is actually true, I've had it happen to me multiple times and I'm pretty sure that you either have to switch your weapon from the medigun when you lose, or ubering after the round finishes and you lose
for the bug you found i believe it happens the same way when mmph taunting with an uber canteen activated you lose the uber when the canteen runs out: it takes the uber from “giver 1” and checks if “giver 2” already has it activated and will override “giver 2”’s uber (if any currently active) making it so if “giver 1”’s uber ends so does “giver 2”’s
Finally the video I've been waiting for :)
for the case of the medics arms while the medigun is out during humiliation it occurs while Healing or Ubering a teammate as the round ends, this is due to a clipping error with the animations, because the medics arm is extended when healing (when he pushes on the lever designed to activate the healing)