5 Things I Learned From The Experts - Dune Imperium Uprising
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- We just got back from the Winter Invitational Dune Imperium tournament, hosted by Dire Wolf Digital and MrBeast. While we were there, I learned a few tips and tricks from the VERY best Dune Imperium players in the world. So these are 5 of the most important tips I learned about becoming a better Dune Imperium Player.
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These are definitely some next level thinking. Surprised how your character and seat position could play that much of a factor like in a game with skilled players and you pick the wrong person you might lose before the game even starts.
Was a pleasure playing with you Ryan, I hope we can do it again one day!
It was great to meet you - glad you guys were there!
Solid tips and advice! Definitely never thought too much about how the player ahead in turn order will most of the time snatch your strategy if theirs is similar to yours. Next time I see them going heavy econ, I'll go heavy conflict, or vice versa.
Exactly!
Thanks for sharing. Extremely helpful.
Pleasure meeting and playing with you! Great video!
It was lovely to meet you guys there, it was a great time and you making the quarter finals I think showed the learning you underwent while there. Also, liking the shirt!
I think that shows that either the strategy of dune is really under developed or that dune is a higher variance lower skill game. Could you imagine entering a chess tournament against the "best" players in the world and not getting completely smashed every single game.
@@tomtang7463 This is something that's been thought about but in our ranked elo systems and comps, the better players are usually those going the distance. There IS more luck in this than Chess but I don't believe it's a fair comparison, ANYTHING has more luck than that.
@@BlackShadow993 Replace chess with Backgammon, Team fight tactics, hearthstone and the analogy still stands. The spread of elo can be used to determine the amount of skill in a game. If you implement a normalish elo system and let people play it out, then in the game of Go the best players tend to be in the 3000's, for Chess its high 2000's and backgammon mid 2000's. Do you know what the spread for dune is?
@@tomtang7463 They have far higher play bases then DI currently does, the point is that in noted competitions, the stronger players more often win games still. There's hidden info and some random deck drawing but I think it's more feature anyways that upsets can and do happen. I imagine that Ryan would second the sentiment.
@@BlackShadow993 I think that just proves my point of dune strategy being very under developed. Texas holdem only started to get "solved recently" in the 2010's and was played for decades before then by a much wider player base then DI. None of the best players from the 90s would stand a chance against good players from today. I wonder how large a gap exists in DI that has yet to be discovered.
I’ve wondered if the cost of revealing a turn early for a particular card was worth the action your agent goes to and the resources you get which could set up a future turn. Good to know these pros do it so now go for it.
It really depends ob a lot of things if it's worth it or not. Sometimes you have a bad hand so the actions you can place are already blocked or just not that good. In that case the choice is easier.
For the first tip, what about how the rules actually tell you to pick leader before handing out objective cards (and thus determining starting order)?
If you're doing the draft variant, you need to know player order so you can draft in the correct order.
Great tips! I have had the feeling to revel early a few games but didn’t because I always thought it was a bad idea. Now I know to trust my gut.
That is one of the harder ones because there is a lot to evaluate but sometimes it can feel bad to forgo actions but many times it can be worth it.
About the best 6 cards: Guild Spy should definitely be in that 6, and I don't think Captured Mentat is exceptionally good. It has kinda bad access and mid power effects. Generating resources/faction bumps is usually more beneficial than cycling cards/shifting your faction bumps, so on its own Captured Mentat isn't that great.
Guild Spy just simply has too much value for its cost and an insane reveal effect, so it's always a great card to your deck.
don't listen to felk he's washed
hi there, how good is the Uprising instead of Dune imperium + Ix ?
Opinions differ depending on the player, but both of us (and just about everyone in the competitive community we were introduced to) prefer Uprising overall.
Hi there, I play with my boys Dune Uprising almost everyday. As a regular player, not a pro, I believe that Uprising is more balanced and more fun! We played both of versions more then 40 times. You can also combine older expansions with Uprising but it can disbalance the game. GL and HF!
DUUUUUNE!!!
Is a game that can be won or lost by seating position broken?
I would say not at all. These guys have done the math and it's pretty even - it isn't about one seat being stronger than any other, it's about learning how your seat order can impact your play.
@@meeple I’m skeptical, I mean I own the game and love playing it, but not obviously at that high level. I worry that any chance seat order could impact play is not a good sign for the game. Same problem as drafting games.
@@atheist_addict Of course seat order impact the game. Depending of your order of row, you might have a advantage early or late game. It all depend on how you use it to your advantage. Does it break the game or make it unfair? Absolutely not, or else no one would play this game at high level.
Just so ya know, it’s pronounced “Moo-Ah Deeb”, not “Moo-Ah Dibb”.
Thanks for the great video!
Can't imagine he went to the event saying it like that the whole time with no one clowning him
well done... sorry they didn't invite me... maybe next time... guess they were scared.. but its to be expected..
Why? Youd have been knocked out in round 1 anyway. 😮