I Paid 'Pro' Drummers To Create An EPIC Drum Part For My Song!
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My name's Stephen Taylor and as a drummer, some of my most valuable feedback and lessons learned have come from evaluating my drumming in a recorded setting, getting feedback from other musicians, and being willing to improve my playing based upon that feedback. As well, I can learn so much just by watching another drummer or picking apart their drumming. So, I wanted to create a Fiverr gig and use it in this drum tutorial. Fiverr gig marketing has become a great way for some drummers to get work...but what type of quality is there? In this video, I paid random drummers on Fiverr to record a drum part to a song I had produced. Since I am hiring them, it's my job to play the part of the producer and evaluate what I think works and what I think doesn't work with each of their drum parts.
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As a drummer, some of my most valuable feedback and lessons learned have come from evaluating my drumming in a recorded setting, getting feedback from other musicians, and being willing to improve my playing based upon that feedback. As well, I can learn so much just by watching another drummer or picking apart their drumming. So, in this video, I paid random metal drummers on Fiverr to record a drum part to a metalcore song I had produced. Since I am hiring them, it's my job to play the part of the producer and evaluate what I think works and what I think doesn't work with each of their drum parts.
Leave a comment below and let me know who you think played it the best!
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I'd like it if you can send me the music. I'd really like to see what my take is 😆
Dude you should post the track and make a super cool collab with bunch of drummers from social media, people uploads it, tags you, you pick parts that you like and make a video with all the parts. lots of work insane outcome!
I preferred the $37 dude. (Glen W or Gwen W)
You should include your take on the song at the end
@@LackingLoam we've emailed and texted about it. Maybe
Stephen! thank you so much for including me in your video and for the kind words. I absolutely love your content - the time and effort you put in to helping drummers out there become the best they can be has definitely helped me along the way, and continues to help me daily in my practice sessions. you explain things in a way that's easy to comprehend and simple to transfer into a practice session. very happy to have been a part of one of your videos.
You absolutely crushed it Brittany. Thanks for being you on the drums!
You played this song really well - great power, very musical too, all the emphasis in the right place: good job!!!
I'm going to agree, you were by far the best. And it was fun to watch your energy as you killed it.
John Ford thank you very much!
Coron Tsurara thanks so much - really appreciate it!!! :)
Hey Stephen! Joshybeeee here. Thank you so much for the constructive criticism! It really helps to know how to improve. Love your work🙏🙏
You did a great job brotha! Please keep at it. You've got a really bright future with your playing!
There where some really cool ideas and grooves you had in there Josh, nicely done!
Nicely done dude!
You have the right attitude, my friend.
No one can say you didn't give Stephen his money's worth!! I thought you did a very good job and have the potential to be an excellent drummer!! Your future is bright!
in real life, you'd go back to the $37 guy, ask him to do it again a little less busy, and save $170
Absolutely !
also had by far the best sound imo
Yup, my favourite one too, with the $210 in second place.
one hundred percent, this guy may not know how good he is, get him locked down and slide him some notes and you'll get exactly what you ask for, that being said ... congratulations winner, you nailed it and that's money!
In real life you absolutely slam BriittB for the multiple loss of time fills and treat her like you did the other 7 submissions. Then go back to the 37$ guy, hit 3-5 punches and pay him a couple c notes to walk away.
The guy with the e drums ! I was like whattt? That guy has great toms btw. Sound really good for 37$
he had the best feel for sure if you're looking at context of the track, and sound matching (maybe it was luck? :) really enjoyed this guy. Sounded most like "You Slut!"
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Evren mi can
Incredible bang for buck at $37
12$ kid sounded original and was well done. But hey, I’m a guitarist.
Totally agree. I loved his parts
12$ kid sounded exactly how i would potray the drums for the guitar would be. 12$ well spent!
I think so too
$37 dude's recording is spot on. You can see his ethos in everything he did. I feel he would be more versatile with any kind of session music. Brit B. was great but i'd hire the e kit guy.
I´d give the 37$ dude the gig, go back to the 12$ kid and give him advice, and hire Brit for the Festival!
nailed it
@@awkward14 Absolutely!
Nailed it
FTW
12 dollar kid actually ended up viewing the video so thats something.
$37 guy. Hands down. I think he did what was best for the song and you sir already had a preconceived idea of what you wanted (or what you would’ve done) and found the person who displayed that. I can totally see $37 guy in the studio taking suggestions like a champ.
Glen W, the $37 guy probably gave the most bang for the buck. He was my preference before Brit B came along and absolutely killed it.
No doubt, Glen nailed it
I totally agree! The biggest surprise for me was the £157 guy; I would have sent it back to him. $157 is a LOT of money for something so bland
I liked Glen W even more than Brit B. I don't know, all her 16th notes just get a bit much for me after a while, and the sound of the kit is pretty bland. The kick is nice and punchy but everything else sounds like it's just a phone camera microphone or something.
@@travisjohnson7065 I agree with these points even though I liked hers the best. I think she is an insane drummer for this track and I think the mixing and the coaching can be an easy fix to get it real clean.
All you simps in the comments make me wanna vomit.. Her drumming is very average at best and not very consistent or in the pocket.
Man the 157$ “pro” was the most disappointing imo.
Sooo... I've seen other "fiver" vids, and assume that they are sponsoring a lot of them...
If so, is that why he seemed to completely lay off the guy, because they said he's a fiver 'pro'?
Instead of "he didn't do this" and yelling "noooooo", he was like "he could have done this, but XYZ (incase there's a singer)" and giving some fake opion.
I dunno, his response to the pro seemed completely fake.
ya that was honestly fucking trash. The last girl really did kill it tho and she was pretty cute. Girls, tats, and instruments always work lmao
sounds and looks like a phone recording he just did from listening to the song on the run
He was the worst value I think
yeah if I got that for drum stems I'd turn down the project.
$37 guy wins for me. His kit sounded amazing and his style was just more interesting. As for the 'pro'... yeah... I can imagine him playing in a tribute band in some dodgy biker bar where you are expected to get drunk and fight with pool cues
I get the feeling that you would never go for the 'Less is more' point of view. I feel that pulling back is often justified. These guys are trying to play a drum part. If they knew that they were supposed to show off, they would have played differently. Yes, $37 guy was pretty good.
Yeah i don't like this guys criticisms of everyone. Way to harsh. He's not even that good of a drummer himself.
@@sw1tchedYou are like the crowd in America's got Talent. You can't stand constructive criticism and boo any form of feedback.
1. BrittB
2. E-Kit Guy
3. $12 Dude
Zachary Kelley exactly my choices though not sure #2 & #3 would be reversed.. they were pretty close.
same choices for me to..
Agreed
too
Same choices for sure
12$ drummer is who you invest in. He’s young, he’s good, and he’ll grow into the perfect long term solution for your group.
Yep, that guy was solid and did have great intuition, altho his style is a bit too alt-rock for my taste, BritB is young too and she has a more diverse style imo.
She’s just more experienced musician, probably plays different styles. She’s probably older than we think or in music since she’s like 6
He played for the song imo, keeping space for possible vocals.
Finance lol
For low price he was good and I hope he gets work from fiverr as drummer
I don't know, a song like that doesn't need fills and fancy things, as a drummer if someone is sending me this generic vanilla sounding song I would have thought that is music for a UA-cam ad.
exactly
Agreed, I don't know why he expected a fill in that spot. The only reason I would put one there is if he had specifically asked for it. Based on no instruction and only the track to go off of, a slow start, four on the floor, and not too much busy fill work was the way to go on this one.
Exactly, if they had decent music to work with I'm sure they would all have better drum tracks. You can't write music with no substance and expect to get Mangini or Bozzio.
That’s exactly right
it's like he thought it was an etude for drum set or something.
The guy who didn't do a drum fill deserves credit, he's letting the song breathe and not being a stereotypical arrogant drummer who thinks he needs to fill every single gap with a drum fill.
my Point exactly! thnx bro! ;)
Mate, not all drummers are arrogant, but we have a tonne of talent that sometimes gets hidden behind the rest of the band. We need time to show off sometimes.
@@deepindespairofficial7175 yeah true but in this specific situation his break time fit well with the song
100%, there's no "right way" to play a song
Having a debate on whether to fill or not fill in some corporate ass generic song is almost as much of a waste of time as me typing these words. Fuck that boring ass song. I go for fill.
actually this is the best "i paid fiverr" thing content ive seen, he didnt sugar coat any of the criticism he had on those drummers which somehow is sort of educational, i learned a lot on how to approach a song.
Thanks!
yup. He also wasn't a dick about it, which is equally important - constructive and educational feedback at its best
i dont like sugarcoating
$12 drummer is what the actual drummer of the "band" would have played. And it's actually not bad at all.
Hes a 16 year old kid :)
@@shearer595 even better!
I agree 100 percent
yeah i like the first one, i liked his creative direction.
Once he started whining about everyone it became cringe- to me
Really enjoyed the $12 gig. For the price, it's a steal (the guy's a kid, too). Yeah, we might all agree that BritB was the best, but the price was 10x. Worth mentioning the kid.
Britt providing the value for money there. Gets the accents but doesn't overplay it. Let's the song breathe when appropriate and drives when it needs it. And she even managed to look like she was having fun while doing it.
thank you!!! :)
I heard the $37 Man is turning into $42 Dude next week...
The price of fame...
lol Honestly I've paid $250 for that type of drumming lol..... Seeing it for a few bucks on FIVERR shocked the hell out of me lol
Haha! Good one! ...price of inflation
And?
The $42 drummer produced a solid musical theme drum fill 12:20 but the second to the last note of the ending drum fill beginning 12:28 would have had more authority with a pause bass drum hit followed by the final snare drum and high hat note.
The 37$ dude was very nice. He gave the song a solid but also open feel and was creative in his playing.
But honestly, I didn't like the 157 PROOOOO at all, his vibe didn't fit AND the sound quality was shit.
that snare sounded like balls...
Yeah, the sound was awful and it was not a problem of micing, he just tuned it shitty.
Good video, but I'm gonna be honest here: I think I preferred the $47 guy. I actually preferred the fact that he did not play a solo at the break. He let the song breathe. It made it feel like the song stopped moving in time, then it picked right back up. I liked that feeling. Many of the more expensive drummers did 'too much' for the song. The vibe I get from just the non-drum instruments is something laid-back with a little bit of groove. I would not have expected some loud, in-your-face drum track that has loud crashes and open hi hat. That is part of the reason why I didn't like Brittany (for the price). I feel like she was almost always playing at full power besides a couple of small fills where there were crescendos. While that might work for a something else such as a metal song, I do not think it works here.
But based on the other comments, I seem to be in the minority.
This is so close to being Shut up and Dance, I don’t know if that was the point, or mentioned at any stage in the video 🤣
This is the best "Fiver" vid I've seen. Most just react and try to be comedic but this was both entertaining and educational just by you being excited for drummers playing. I was scared that you were about to just do the trend but this was so much better. Great stuff Stephen!
This channel is about teaching, so I will always try to bring it back to that. Plus, I just love music and hearing others interpretation of a song! As you can see, I get pretty amped up about creating music lol
I ditto the reaction.
@@StephenTaylorDrums ...as it should be, Stephen. Thank you for that!
Have you seen CdawgVA? He does a similar videos for Voice actors. This is a great video. That’s an epic beard bro xD
I think one of the pitfalls of the song being played is that it sounds like an intro to a business convention, or a talk or something (basically a background track). And that, by nature, doesn't call for a lot of extra energy.
I agree. It sounds like a track that plays when I'm waiting on the line to talk to the parts guy at my local Freightliner trucks dealer! Very boring!
But if a drummer can make that sound good,then that's who you want right.
@@theTrend7 right, but good in this case is supposed to be somewhat subtle. If I were making this track (I wouldn't be) I would actually much prefer programmed drums to match how bland the overall track is.
@@theTrend7 True in some cases, but the drummers in this case probably understand they have to play to serve the song to get good reviews and get paid. If they think it's a background song (and I think it sounds that way) then they play like it's a background song because they don't want to risk overplaying it and giving the customer a distracting performance.
100% exactly what I was thinking.
“Nooo you missed the opportunity for a drum fill” - the ones who “missed” the drum fill, left space for the song perfectly.
this is such a shit trend on youtube, presenting incomplete songs and then saying "it's a good amount of space" or "they filled the space too much" when someone plays towards their instincts.
In other words, if this song was 100% complete except for the drums, you still need to know the context it's going to be used. Is it trying for placements where there will be talking/environment sounds?
Also lol @ $210 dollars for that sound quality / performance. yikes.
Playing drums is like trimming a tree. If you want views, slaughter it with biggest fucking chainsaw made and run it through a shredder. If you want a nice looking tree, you remember that it's what you don't cut that makes it look good.
I think what we're seeing here - and it comes up in all these "I paid people on Fiver to do XYZ" - is the value of communication. If you send someone a song with no real direction other than "play drums", you're going to get something that won't necessarily fit your vision. A bit of back and forth feedback over a couple of takes, and I reckon any of these drummers would have produced the goods. It's like two teams playing a game where only one side knows what the rules are....
Some of the best cats I’ve played with did exactly what you said and I never took it personally. It’s really hard to play drums for someone that doesn’t specify their vision. 90% of the time I’m going to hear a song very differently than they hear it in their head, that’s just part of collaboration. Sometimes shit just happens and your vibin’ but usually results are driven by strong communication.
Man, I forget who it was... Maybe Sonny Greer.... One of Count Basie's drummers would play a song in rehearsal, and just play time throughout, nothing special...
2nd run through, he completely owned the song, with big fill lead ins to all of the "hits" (something that $12 kid could work on - well, several of them, actually) and it was like he'd been playing the song for years.
Not the same as this video, but you made me just think of it, and now it's gonna kill me who it was....
The Gal takes it. Mr. Taylor, please do a video showing us what You’d do. I love your playing and would be interested in your take.
Hear here!
The woman was the best! Energy, technique, drive.
I have to say, I didn't see what the big deal was about hers. For the most part, it was just average. Very solid, but average in terms of how interesting it was to me personally. Granted, I didn't see the whole song, just clips. But for example, at 17:33...what is he even reacting to? Sounded pretty basic to me, but he flipped out like she did something amazing. And even the sound of the kit, and the mixing. It's a bit dry and bland to me. Glen W sounded more professional, clean and clear, and it fits better in the context of the song. For only $37.
@@travisjohnson7065 I see it the same way tbh! Not hating or anything but the dude, who switched it up with the E kit had by far the best sound, best technique and great arrangement IMO! The rock lady was playing heavy handed, swinging alot of arm motion, which is cool, but I never heard the Instrumental as "Rock"-ish as everyone claims to be honest! The guy should go up up with his price for sure!!
$37 dude with two kits and Brittney absolutely crushed it for me.
Yeah, best value/skill-ratio
And no two drummers sounded alike either. Another perfect example of knowing your instrument well and keeping a check on your limitations.
It made me smile to see you happy at the end, I'm not sure why!!
Wouldnt it be an idea to film some drums and cymbals on high speed camera?
he's asking too much for an acne commercial song.
This comment 😂
He's just asking for someone to hit the push for crying out loud. They had one job. Hit the god damned push. Hit it!
LOL!
Fuck it! I'm hitting every push from now on with with extreme double bass and every going for every cymbal at least twice. (I can hear the guitarist bitching already.)
It's very infomercial :)
LOL
Britb and Glenn both killed it, but I'd love at the end of these to hear your take on the song Stephen. You talked about things you'd like to hear and while there were examples I think having you play through once would be a great way to end these.
I may play a take in the next video I do of this style. We'll see. I had a lot of fun watching other drummers and giving them the spotlight
I am not a drum player, but a singer, and I am amazed at how much a drum sequence can change the feeling and meaning of the song. Wow 🤩
Yep. If a song were a body, made up of different physical parts, the drums would be the spine.
Trust me, as a drummer, we noticed
I play guitar (badly) and the person I generally watch most in a live show is either the guitarist or the drummer. Great bands have great drummers. They're such a crucial member which is why it's so important to hand them the keys to the van, make fun of them, and keep their ego in check, lmao.
@@Huntington12345678 I'd rather say drums are the heart
What impresses me the most, is how much value the better drums bring to the table. Paying less than 50$ to get a quality live drum track played specifially for your song really is a bargain.
You get what you pay for... Britt B sounded great. Although I thought that the gentleman who also use the e-kit had the best sound quality.
Yea, he was in my top 3 for sure.
Me who dosent know anything about drums: *HOW COULD YOU MISS THE PUSH!!!*
I know, right? What the hell is a push!!!
Not sure if you're being sarcastic and I'm falling for it... but the push here is when you accent the next bar on the 'and' of 4 of the previous bar. Usually you'd do it on the 1 of the next bar. Full disclosure though I had no idea it had a name till I watched this. I just kinda do it.
That dang push.
@photag216 Haha. Luckily for those of us who don't have to articulate stuff to other drummers we can just play and not know what it is that we're doing. Never felt the need to learn the terminology 😂
😅😅😅
Many years ago when I worked in a small Tascam 8 track studio helping out on recordings, and sometimes playing bass tracks on other people's songs, the hardest lesson to sometimes learn is not necessarily about the musicianship, but to leave your ego at the door. Serve the song, not your ego. Be open to other ideas, and play what they want, even when sometimes it hurts because you know it could've been better than what they wanted. Provide guidance and options when asked, but don't be obstinate. Recording music can be and should be a fun adventure. I love what you do here. Great content. Thanks.
Man that was fun! I love hearing each person's take one the tune, and I learned a bunch from your commentary. I'd love to hear more like this, AND as somebody else mentioned, it would be WAY FUN to go back to each drummer and give t hem feedback, and get one more take from each. It would be interesting to see how much each drummer changed.
I like to think these guys were playing to leave space for vocals. Like they’re hearing whatever vocals in their mind and playing to that tune
If so probably some ringo ass lyrical bullshit ^^
The dude for 37USD with two kits was the best in terms of performance, sound, mixing and also value.
Brit B proves the maxim: It pays to invest in quality.
But, for $37 eKit guy was damn solid.
And I’d probably throw a project to the $12 kid. Session players improve the most by meeting demands of paying customers.
thank you!
💣💣💣
I think the lack of fills in that empty section was actually correct if there were vocals on the track. If you want to build the song you would leave that section empty...let the vocals shine into the next section. The fills that people did were fine, but the extra quarter guy (Jordan McQueen) did that expertly for the betterment of the song itself.
Obviously my personal interpretation. I also think Britt was the best overall player and well worth the price tag. Great production quality, the best feel for the song...dug it.
thank you!! :)
@@BrittanyNicoleBowman It wasn't even close. You could have charged $100 more and I'd still say that was worth it. Excellent job - you're clearly deserving of the title 'pro'.
@@MBrulla thank you so much :) I really appreciate that!
My favorite parts are when the drummers miss the break and he just yells lol
For that price? GLENN! Absolutely!
Hey Stephen! Stumbled upon this video a week or two after it came out and it is a pretty big part of me finally getting drum lessons. After 15 years of playing guitar & always struggling with keeping time and then not following so much of the lingo in this video with pushes and upbeats it really drove home how much of a blind spot I have with rhythm. Started drum lessons in june, bought my first e-kit this past friday and my timing is already improving. Thanks for the inspiration/kick in the ass!
My first time seeing your videos and really enjoyed it. I dig that your giving opportunities for unknown drummers to show their stuff, and think you give very good input. I have been playing for 40 plus years and learned a few things. Keep up the great work. I have subscribed to your channel.
Why not just copy and paste the drums from “Shut Up And Dance”, should fit perfect.
Just a little joke.
I’d go with the last drummer. Served the song and didn’t overplay.
exactly what I was thinking lol
Lol it’s literally the song 😂😂😂
Yeah this sounded so much like "Shut Up and Dance."
hahaha yes can't hear that ending any other way
$37 guy definitely gets the gig imo, very consistent play through, hit all the right notes at the right time but also left space to breathe. also his kit sounded great and he was creative
I feel like this song doesn't need the hits and fills that you keep calling for, doesn't quite fit. most of these interpretations fit the song. I think they interpreted it better than you. Just my opinion.
Not to mention he repeatedly says it needs to "build to something". Which makes me think, did he ask them to make the drums the focal point of the song? If you are adding drums to a track on Fiver you don't really want to assume that your part is going to be the center of the song. You are probably just thinking that someone has asked you to do the drums for commercial music lol and you just need to write something to fit the song without sticking out.
He has an idea in his head of what he wants and if he wants fills in it then it calls for it
The first dude was surprisingly good on the low end of the price spectrum, better than anyone until Mr. e-drums. He had a Foo Fighters kind of feel to him. Also I love that his friend is obviously filming him on a cell phone camera.
I want to know who was your runner up. Britt was obviously the best.
thank you! :)
BritB, GlenW and McQueen all did a great job. Brit’s feel for the song stole it for me and Glen’s Tom sound just killed it.
The guys at the start did an amazing job. You have to be fair to those lads - you can't expect them to spend more than an hour or so on it for that sort of cash. So I guess they're not going to totally nail the structure and all the pauses, stabs, etc. If I got back cleanly recorded tracks that were even vaguely usable for that money, I'd be a very happy customer.
Also, if I was doing this, I would supply the drummer with a sample of the basic rhythm I wanted, and ask them to keep it simple and tight. Then provide a minute or two of stabs and fills, which I could choose from and slot in.
The e-drum dude wasn't to my taste.. a bit flashy.. but played really well and had BY FAR the best sounding kit. I would have probably guessed that he was the pro out of the bunch.
I like what Brittany played, she gave it a more straight-ahead rock vibe. The sound wasn't great, but I'm guessing these were all essentially unmixed, so hard to say.
Yes this
Absolutely
These are, of course, entirely subjective opinions --
12$ guy = 7.3/10
17$ guy = 6.2/10
22$ guy = 7/10
37$ guy = 8.6/10
42$ guy = 7.6/10
47$ guy = 8/10
157$ guy = 6.8/10
210$ girl = 8.8/10
So, I guess all-in-all, I agree with Stephen? I judged while listening to each one -- didn't know he had chosen Brit as winner 'til after.
:)
@@BrittanyNicoleBowman Oh shit, was that you?? Great job! :D
Hey man, this is a fantastic video. As a guitar instructor who coaches players into the professional arena one of the more important things to impress upon learners is how important the relationship with the rhythm section in a band is, and bridging the gap between them and the drummer (through the bass player) can be challenging. I love how you verbalize things and highlight the major components that differentiate between styles and abilities. I'm going to use your channel a lot!
Actually the first guy seems to make the most musically decisions, patternwise. But The Lady goes with the (Grohl)Stomp-Mode, which worked of course. But altogether a nice video. Pretty insightful. Thank you 🙏
My pick would’ve been Glenn. That was the best-sounding drum set and drummer out of the bunch, and I loved how Glenn chose the drum break as an opportunity to break out the electronic percussion.
Killer content, Stephen! And it's so inspiring! Almost decided to quit drumming, but I watched just two of your videos and it made me change my mind. In the end who is the winner, I thought? Yes, the music is! Your genuine and unveiled reaction and excitement on drumming - fills and breaks - that's how I felt one time and then suddenly lost it. I guess that's the way how we all feel about the music, and how we all have to feel. Thank you for your job, man! And keep doing what you're doing!
That was the most anticlimactic ending ever.
You really missed the push there.
*sells drums and gets job at McDonald's*
@@StephenTaylorDrums
get some haircut dude lol
She played it like a rock drummer. I'll take her.
The other guy with the electronic set is number 2
I agree with this.
Ditto.
Same for me. Last one was by far the best imo.
Yes for sure, those 2 were far above the rest!! I think Glen's tracking fees just went up!
You should definitely check her out on Instagram @brittanynicolebowman, she does some really cool stuff.
There's an interesting thing about "mastery" - which is that at some point, "getting it technically correct" is no longer the final goal - it's just one step along the way. The game becomes about inhabiting the music and bringing it to life. Several of these younger guys - while definitely talented - are still in the "getting it right" stage. The thing that really distinguishes Brittany Bowman here is her performance vibe. She's gone beyond hitting the right drum at the right time, and is bringing that ineffable, awesome, energy, flow, bhav, - whatever you want to call it - that is the signature of the Master.
That being said; *none* of them are charging enough.
This was basically my takeaway as well. While age does not necessarily equal experience, there was definitely a trend here. Brittany definitely has "vibe" and was clearly the best of this bunch.
However, I do think they are charging what they are worth.
thank you so much! please check out my recent video on this topic! :)
Sounds just like Shut up and Dance from Walk the Moon
I knew it sounded familiar just couldn’t place it
daniel erickson Agreed. That’s all I could think about the whole time. Is it close enough for copyright issues if this vid is monetized?
Glen killed it. Confident, loose and innovative for sure.
Yea, great pocket
While the "get what you pay for" aspect has some merit, for me there is a more important question. After each sample I asked myself "How does that feel?" Glenn left me feeling good, no doubt, but Brit B had me sitting up and saying "Holy crap! I gotta watch this again!" Would love to see her whole submission from start to finish. She also looked like she was having the most fun.
Agree. And there's def room here...especially if someone is coming in with a bit of a smaller budget...lots of good options!
Did you give them a chart noting where you want a fill?
Yeah I agree: she had the best intuition on how to play to the song.
I would hire Glenn over brit and save $170 tho
157$ guy is completely overpriced and 47$ guy handled really well I think. Leaving the gap empty is a sign of maturity as a musician.
You’re right, if you don’t have any direction to fill the space, you shouldn’t assume that the producer gave it to you to fill.
The biggest epiphany I had is that we hear what is not played more than what is. Don't believe me? Layer random 16th notes over and over until 3 things are playing on every note. When you reach the point where there is no silence, you don't hear music anymore.
I love legit constructive criticism. They wouldnt criticize and give pointers if they weren't trying to help you. Always a great thing to see.
Thanks for including me in this video Stephen, I had no idea it was you when I received the order! Man, I completely missed that drum fill part haha, did not catch onto that when I was tracking. Glad you liked my drum sounds though, was a fun track to play to! Glenn and BrittB killed it!
Just so you're aware, Tim Buell and I (he edits and mixes my stuff) both wanted you to know...your performance was incredible as well as the sounds you got. They're better than some of the sounds guys here in nashville are getting. I was going to message you on fiverr later this week and let you know that. We both feel you need to dig in and keep doing this. You keep improving and iterating on what you're doing right now and you've got a really bright future with this.
I really liked your take, especially the sound of your Drums. I think, soundwise yours was the best!
Also, what crash cymbal are you using (the right one, from your point of view)? I could see the Meinl logo, but which model?
Stephen Taylor Thank you, I really appreciate that!! This was a really cool project and I like how you did not hold back on the constructive criticism, good to tell it as it is. I think drummers can learn a lot from videos like this! Would love to see your own take on the song if you decide to do that later!
Heinz Schneeball Thanks man! Yes I use all Meinl Byzance cymbals, the crash to my right is the Byzance Traditional Medium 20” crash
Perhaps your best video yet! Those drummers should be paying YOU for the great advice. Win win for everyone.
Thanks!
10:10 Bang for a buck.. definitely. i personally love those toms in the beginning. but after he sees this, which i assume he already did, he's practicing even more... he's the cleanest and and most creative in my opinion...
plus props to the Kid. he has some really serious skills.
Stephen is like a really good mentor. All throughout the beginning I felt like I was getting good instructions from someone I can train all day
I feel the first drummers were leaving room and air in case it was a song .Do you want heavy drums or leave room for other instruments or vocals? What kind of track is it supposed to be?!?! Depending on who's listening , the " best " drummer here could also be seen as overplaying and get fired.
I felt the same way. I've lost a lot of auditions to smashers, and that's okay, I prefer a little lighter touch, and that is more often NOT what is wanted.
This is actually a really good point to bring up. I work in a creative field, that employs freelancers / hired guns, etc. to not just fill in a gap on a project but to enhance it, and also put some kind of personal, artistic stamp on it. And the best way to get good work is to be as clear and specific about your needs...for feel/style/energy/aesthetic. People should still get at least a jumping off point for context/direction.
Really interesting! Glenn Welman was my favorite of the submissions and I definitely will bookmark him for hiring. I get what you were after, dirtier and more driving on this particular track, but his tone and pocket is spot on for a wide variety of genres where the drums need to sit cleanly in the mix. At the prices he is offering, it's a steal.
$12 kid. The whole way. That kid needs an angel investor and some guidance is all.
GREAT VID! my first time watching anything like this. i'm a novice drummer mostly guitar noodler. i liked the youthful energy of joshybee. i think it's a bit unrealistic to hope for the perfect drums without a player able to ask many questions about what are you looking for? especially are there vocals? minimalist? busy? swing? squared? etc.... one of the many reasons bissonette got the gig with with david lee roth was him being able to ask questions of the previous drummers about what vai and roth were looking for. he took notes and gave them what they wanted! :)
The girl was the best, the $37 gets 2nd. The "pro" was absolutely the worst.
agreed
@ this ^
And shes fit
I liked how Fernando played it.
Facts
Me after this video:
*throws sticks* “I quit”
Never!
Same here.
When I see people better than me it just makes me work harder.
This comment is correct
carmangary, what is a better drummer?? You, as a musician, are as unique as your fingerprint!!! We’re all good at something!!!
Bruh the "pro" was probably the worst out of everyone 😂😂 go figure
Thanks for this video Stephen!
Just starting out in a band for the first time and was trying to find a video that could help show me how to play drums in a way that suits the band. And this is just the ticket ^_^ you're my biggest inspiration for drumming right now.
for me, imo:
$12, great performance, very alt rocky, most accurate sounding drum tone for the song, reminds me of U2 or Muse, the room for singing is perfect.
$17, it's okay for the price.
$22, missing a lot of things, probably he thought it was a chill quiet song, so he didnt put too much there.
$37, best one in my opinion, great price, killer sound (too bassy, but still great), creative, amazing player.
$42, good fills and rudiments, still for me not better than $12 or $37 dude.
$47, the ride sounds amaaaazing, i wish the other drummers had that tone too but missed the drum fill :(
$157, phone quality, overpriced, i don't doubt he is a great player but he didnt do justice for the song.
$210, great performance, probably too much energy and almost no room for singing, bad sound, overheads and cymbals too high in frequencies, for me, very overpriced for what he got.
Best ones for me were the $12 and $37 dudes.
Facts all the people be simping over the girl when she wasn’t even that good... way over priced...
Nice breakdown, good points.
@@theredpillneo2296 or we just liked the energy that particular drummer brought to the song.
I agree with everything here. I do think lassies on the internet providing vids have to price-out creeps to a large degree though. But it's interesting that your and my vision of Stephen's song seems to want more subdued drums and his wanted far more drive and energy.
I kinda wish he'd have davie504'd it and done his own take for the end of the vid to showcase what he was hearing in his head.
I’m so glad Glenn’s my drummer! He’s a great guy too! The stuff he played on my album was perfect. Thanks so much for this video.
He's fantastic! So glad you're working with him
Stephen Taylor He’s so easy to work with, it’s not just the drumming bit. I know he plays heavy metal or something like that but I gave him two of my ballads and I was close to tears when he sent them back and it was like he read my mind. I was terrified he was going to play hard rock and it was nothing like that at all - just perfect.
Its such a pleasure to work with such a talented musician!!
Glenn Welman Awwww ❤️ There is loads more ahead!
Its a great way to show how drummers have different personalities. The way you play a song? You've got to feel it!! Well done making this video!
Thanks! You can catch Brittany on tour with Demi Lovato atm
the girl at the end seriously killed it! She's my pick for #1, #2 goes to Glenn, #3 goes to Jordan McQueen/FperDom
thanks so much!
I like the fact, that u reviewed them like they were your students, this really helps me to watch out for things that I wouldn't usually pay attetion to
I feel like a lot of these drummers were, "playing it safe." It's easy to be labeled as overplaying, and trying to steal the show behind the kit, which sometimes is frowned upon. It's not always clear if your gig wants those flashy plays, or a more modest track. If I did these Fiverr jobs, I would definitely ask what the customer is looking for, and probably provide both a flashy, and chilled version just in case.
I was making some music and I hired a bassist on fiver for £35 ($43 roughly).
It was a funk style track and I gave him as much direction needed, what intensity, volume, drums are doing this etc. However, what I did not expect is that he sent me 5 different takes each with a different style and techniques, slap, muted, fingers, simple and complex groove. This blew me away as I was able to just pick what I liked. I am surprised no drummer did not do this especially if they cost more than $40 and the track is not long at all.
I noticed the same thing.
Best by end product:
1. BrittB
2. 37$ e-kit guy
3. 47$ dude
Best value for startup:
1. 37$ e-kitt guy
2. 47$ dude
3. 12$ boy (w better gear n time, am sure will b awesome one day)
:)
@@BrittanyNicoleBowman you totally nailed this, good ingredients in the right proportion at the right time!! And you played with intention and made it fun to hear! 👍👍👍⌚👌👋
Halfway through the video and so far, I'm getting a distinct Walk The Moon / Shut Up and Dance With Me feel once the drum tracks are added. That being said, I'm definitely enjoying this.
Glen is my favorite, I love the halftime, he played; it adds this part a nice intense touch. and his kit sounds wonderful.
Brittany`s style fits perfectly to the song and she would get the gig if you had to choose one.
not to forget the young men; all of them are seeking some practice and they did a nice job, don't judge them too hard. ;)
The song sounds exactly like 'shut up and dance'
Dude SO TRUE!
@@ian1048 No it sounds like "Where The Streets Have No Name"
@@dodjiegarcia2320 Which sounds like Shut up and dance!
Carlos Rodriguez but where the streets have no name came out first.... like 27 years before shut up and dance...
@@dodjiegarcia2320 uh NO, "Where the streets have no Name" on a whole nother Level, comparing this wanna be "shut up & Dance" to that masterpiece is SACRILEGE and BLASPHEMOUS! LOL.... I think what your hearing is Guitar has similar Effects being like a chorus and Delay/echo, but IT ENDS THERE. "...streets no name" is like SAD sounding so probably in Minor Mode, This song here thats a wanna be "shut up" is a HAPPY JOLLY SONG sounding, totally different feel.
I'm just getting into drums and stumbled onto this video. There's a wealth of knowledge here. I learned a lot! Thank you!!
Stephen, I had no idea what you're talking about but by the end of the video, I think I learned a few things about the drum kit as well as hitting those tight "pockets" and whatnot. I love how you're very informative and give positive criticism. It definitely shows your expertise and professionalism. Instant sub here even though I'm a guitarist and I'm probably never going to get a drum kit haha. Keep it up, brother!
The 37 dollars guy totally stole the show for me with that little trap interlude, also his style is very reminiscent of mine so I might be a little biased here, but hey, the others did a great job too.
For sure...his pocket is super solid.
It's just a coincidence that the best take had a drummer who was having fun, moving to the music and not scared to earn her money.
That 37 dollar drummer gave me goosebumps. Awesome
thanks man, this is so good at showing what you actualy pay for in a musician, and what players should aim for........(its listening, and energy btw haahahaha) I like that you selected a small amount as they're so different!
In my opinion, the girl drummer suited the song best! But if not her, the guy with the electric drum-kit addition. Both of them were fantastic!👍🏻👍🏻
What I enjoyed the most about Brittany Bowman is that she really looked to be enjoying being in the moment just doing what she very apparently loves. Also she sounded B.A.!
P.S.
I know nothing, I am John Snow of the drums.
Aspiring drummer. Just bought my first drumset. Been watching videos and noticed things that I had no idea were a thing with the drums. Noticing people's general style and preferances on the sound/volume of the kick drum. It's really amazing what watching and listening to different drummers do is opening all kinds of layers for me. Just waiting on my drum set to be shipped in hopefully a few weeks (due to delays amid corona). Repped Mr. Taylor to sweetwater due to his one video planting the seed for the drum set I ended up buying. He is going to be my go to UA-camr and won't be suprizied if I decide to go through the drummer school eventually through his website.
I absolutely love this. Fantastic to see so many different interpretations. Very cool