I use the Pedal Commander with a 2.7 Tacoma and can’t imagine driving without it. I usually keep it in various city modes, but eco mode comes in very handy on snow and ice where less throttle response is desirable. The versatility for different driving situations is really nice.
Hello, I have the 4cyl 2.7 . as well. My 2020 4x4 has terrible lag, at a traffic circle slowing down then hitting the gas forget it the truck has nothing. Do find the pedal cmdr. worth it. I watch a lot of Tacoma vids, ROBMOTIVE is very informative as well.
If you like the pedal commander you should get the tune. Highly recommended. Pedal commander is no comparison to the tune. Threw my pedal commander in the garbage.
Chloe, there's a better solution Toyota owners who want throttle adjustability at their fingertips. It's called a Banks PedalMonster. It's the only throttle controller with patented safety features like Reverse Safety. Because PedalMonster is connected to the OBD port, it knows your year, make, model, transmission type, speed and gear. This data stream allows it know when you're in reverse gear. It seamlessly returns you to stock throttle response when backing up. We'd 100% confident your viewers will appreciate it's features and smooth throttle response over other throttle controllers.
Chloe! We just returned home with the OTT. I have a new truck - it really was a game changer. Very noticeable throttle response - that's the first thing we noticed. Shifting is dramatically better, especially pulling hills at highway speeds. One thing I didn't expect was how it improved idle while stopped. Also, nothing scientific, but on the way to the tune today, we were averaging about 18.5 MPG and on the way back home, it was averaging about 20 MPG. Same highway, same speeds. We went with the light/mild tune. No regrets at all. Thank you so much for the videos that helped us decide. Cheers!
I went with the tune, 1 week after getting it tuned my truck went to the dealership for service. Nothing was mentioned from them if I had got a tune. It certainly improved throttle response but the biggest improvement was no more darn gear hunting. As usual great video Chloe
Depends on what your truck went in for, the dealer if they connect to the ECU can tell every time the ECU has been programed, any tuner who's tune reprograms the ECU that tells you their tune is undetectable is lying to you. Todays ECU units keep count in their memory how many times the ECU has been reprogramed and the manufactures system will know how many times they have reprogramed the ECU so if you have more ECU programing counts then the manufacture has logged in their system to your vin they can and many have voided warranties for the engine and drivetrain. Just be aware that you might end up having to cover a major repair on your dime so don't get mad at Toyota when you installed a tune.
@@KingofPho75 Out of warranty the dealer/manufacture has any warranty to deny, so if you want a tune out of warranty then you are good to go. Many tunes will improve the engine and transmission if the tune includes transmission tune in it as well. I tuned my 2019 Ram 1500 ecodiesel two weeks after I bought it with just 1,800 miles on the odometer, the tune was from Green Diesel Engineering and I purchased the transmission tune with the engine tune, cost me just a tad over $1,100 dollars but their tune corrected a lot of issues on the ecodiesels so for my it was worth it, but I also knew that FCA could void my powertrain warranty if they wanted to. I never had to take the truck in for any warranty service so it was never an issue but FCA was known to void warranties if they found foot prints of a tune.
I just bought a used 2021 tacoma and I noticed this gear shifting and thought my transmission was shot 😂 time to get a tune! Thanks so much for all of your content!
Thanks Chloe, I was on the fence about an Overland Tailor Tune but now I am going to get it installed. I live in the Rocky Mountain region of Montana so anywhere I go there are mountains and I’m annoyed by this bad boy always hunting for gears. Keep doing great things in Life and on your channel!
Thank You for this evaluation & installation guide!! Originally I didn't think I needed it that bad for $300. I went to the site to purchase it & then left, thinking I would buy it in a couple months when I had more money. Then Pedal Commander texted me with an additional $20 off motivational discount & I went ahead & bought it. Definitely worth the money, even if it only had City mode, it's WAY better than OEM performance.
Thank you for this video! I know I made the right choice after seeing this. I love my OTT and so happy with it! It changed the whole driving a Tacoma experience to a very happy, comfortable and smooth drive. Thank you again!
I have a Banks pedal monster in my 22 power wagon and it is worth every penny. I have had it for about a year with zero issues, awesome difference from stock, I will always have a pedal monster in whatever I own .
I had been looking forward to this video. I've done both pedal commander and tune. Tune was definitely better. Great comparison video for those that that are debating which route to go.
Tune x10000. It’s by far the best upgrade I’ve made to my truck. It’s night and day and makes driving enjoyable again. If you’re on the fence, just do it. Any legit tuner will let you try their tune before you pay. And most give you a one month money back guarantee and will set you back to stock.
Honest question, I’m not trying to be snarky, but what is the advantage of the tune? I’ve loved the way my SR drives from day one, is it worth it for me?
@@corneliuscrewe677 i got my truck tuned a couple months ago and its night and day difference! before the tune it just seemed so sluggish and the gear searching was annoying. now when I step on the gas Im moving!
@@trianglechokeU That’s what I’m getting at, though, I’ve never felt like it was sluggish, even with 8 bales of hay in the back. On the other hand, if it can be improved from that, maybe it’s worth looking into...
@@corneliuscrewe677 what year is your truck? If you’re happy with it, I’d leave it alone and count yourself lucky. I’ve met very few that like the way the 3rd gen shifts though.
Personally I think the thing that the thing the Pedal Commander does best is REDUCE throttle sensitivity for wheeling. In econo setting the pedal commander can do a decent job of reducing sensitivity, so it is good for helping reduce wheel spin. When everyone was going gaga over the pedal commander, I did some research, and I spoke to some P C people, and what they told me is that it is not capable of adding more power to the truck. It lets you get more throttle for a given amount of pushing the pedal. It gives you more of a kick in the seat. BUT a wheeler posted an argument in their favor, not in them letting you get faster throttle, but rather letting you reduce the amount of throttle for a given amount of pedal movement. It lets you have more control, then switch it back to normal driving conditions. A given amount of throttle opening is a given amount of throttle opening. the difference is how much pedal movement is needed. To be fair, that wheeler changed my opinion of Pedal Commander, and other throttle tuners I had considered them to be nothing but a placebo, but you have to understand what you are actually getting. For offroading, that added control helps... the other modes... it is doing nothing in terms of added power and wether the eco mode helps your fuel economy or not is dependant on you (it won't do much if you start burying your foot in the throttle instead of half throttle when accelerating, and if you are still gunning it on the sportier modes, your economy will actually be worse). What it does is alter how the trucks responds to your driving style. A proper tune on the other hand can also (in theory) remap air fuel ratios, remap shifting, remap throttle response, recalibrate gauges for tire size changes (though I have read that federal regulations are decreasing the amount of things tuners can adjust). Personally I would not mind both, but I would use the PC strictly for decreasing throttle sensitivity on the trail. overall, I would rather have the tune, especially once I move up to larger tires. Over all I will go the tuner route and maybe try something for on the fly desensitizing of the throttle while on the trails.
I don't own a Tacoma ,I have a Nissan Frontier Pro4x. Used a Pedal commander for years, Also had my gears redone so that and PC together is a great combo i have no tune whatsoever. It runs fine i am also using a manual and to be honest i don't think a tune will do much more than i am already pulling so i am ok with it but the PC does help out in catching speed and slowing down the pace 100%
I have the OTT tune with no throttle adjustment. I have my pedal commander for that. I went for the throttle lock feature when you turn on ECT. It’s great for towing. I can now mash the throttle without it constantly downshifting unwontedly. It will still downshift when decelerating. With all these factors its worth the $. 90k miles and my truck actually drives like it should .
@@sonelovan4563 The OTT COULD void your Factory warranty. And if there was ever any problems, you might have to pay for the repair yourself. So it’s best to wait until that is expired before installing it. The pedal commander won’t void it and it’s really easy to uninstall if you need to take your vehicle in for warranty work.
@@sonelovan4563 Todays ECU units keep count of how many times your ECU has been flashed and they know when Toyota is the one who flashed it or not. That is kept in your trucks computer file which goes off of your trucks VIN number. So while Toyota might not know what company you got your tune from they will know that the ECU has been reprogrammed more times than the Toyota file in their computer system shows it should have. Are you willing to pay a two or three thousand or more repair bill out of pocket when your vehicle was under warranty but you put a tune on it and now your drivetrain warranty and engine warranty are now void. Any tuner who reprograms the ECU that tells you their tune is undetectable is lying to you. Many manufactures will have dealers look for the ECU flash count in the ECU and if it does not match the manufactures records and you have more reprograms than it should have will void your engine and drivetrain warranty on the spot. So if you reprogrammed your ECU with a tune and your transmission goes out and the dealer/manufacture sees the flash count of the ECU has more flashes than the manufacture has recorded you can kiss your warranty goodbye and you will have to pay for that $6,000 dollar transmission.
Excellent video! Just started watching your videos as I'm in the process of ordering my first Tacoma from the factory. Your killing it as well as my wallet. Keep up the great work.
With the Overland tune back installed, try throwing your factory rims and tires back on the truck. It’ll feel like a rocket ship and your mileage will go through the roof. The additional unsprung weight of your large wheels and tires Eat up a very large amount of horsepower to turn them.
@@NinerK I guess I should mention I have the Trd cold air intake, and an aftermarket exhaust to help it breathe better. I also use redline Synthetic oil and I add EXP polymer treatment to the oil as well as using a K&N high-performance oil and air filter. I basically maintain the truck like it’s a Cessna. Those modifications probably add a few horsepower and a few of pounds of torque but overall I just don’t beat on it, and usually drive it with the transmission in sport mode unless I’m doing 70+ on the highway.
@@GateOpenersDirect sounds like a great setup, thanks for sharing the insight. Used to drive 20,000+ for work so I have a rav4 hybrid. But now driving less and looking to get into a truck. But after 40 mpg with my RAV4 it would be tough to drop below 25 mpg
Great video as always. You're the person (and doing my own research) who convinced me the OTT was the way to go. Set it and forget it is my style. Got it for towing our 3,500lbs travel trailer and daily driving, and it's the bomb. Gas mileage improved about 1 MPG and about 2 MPG towing. The best $500 I've spent on a truck mod and super happy! Thank you!
If anyone is watching this a debating getting the tune… just do it. Got mine done yesterday and it’s removed all doubt of wanting to sell the truck. This is how it should’ve come out the factory.
Great comparison video! I have been trying to decide between these two options, and after watching your video and reading through the comments I think I'll try tuning my 2023 Tacoma Sport. Thanks Chloe, peace!
Thanks, Chloe! I installed the Sprint Booster 1.5 years ago, and I travel with an Airstream full-time. I keep the setting a 2 in both modes with the Tacoma. It works well. Just recently, I started using it with the trailer, while traveling in Montana, where 2 lanes are 70 mph. You need to accelerate to speed quickly. The other issue is accidentally leaving the booster on, while letting it sit for 2 weeks. It will drain your battery. You need to turn it off for extended periods of not driving. Pax tecum.
I just traded my 2020 4Runner for a new 2023 Tacoma. What airstream are you pulling? How much weight? Looking at pulling the Winnebago Hike100 3,000 lbs dry 4,000 lbs max loaded.
@@thetinkercook5430 nice! We looked at the Bambi at the Tampa show 11 months ago, but I’ve got to say the Winnebago hike100 took my heart. How’s towing that weight? And do you use the Sumo Springs? (Bump stops) I’m going to checkout what a sprint booster is. 🙏🏻😊
@@TommyLuptak Truck limit is 6,700. No additional support - just Fastway e2 Trunnion hitch. Took through mountains in Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and Colorado. Works a little harder, but no real problems. I turn the Sprint Booster off and just ECT in mountains
Just ordered the Banks Pedal Monster for my wifes Limited Nite Shade. I have one in my Superduty Godzilla and it does make it soo much more fun to drive. And its made in the good ol USA.
I had a pedal commander on my 2019 4runner, but after the vehicle kept going into limp mode (1-2x per week) I bought an error code reader that showed "throttle position sensor error". After I removed the PC I never had any further issues. I had previously replaced the gas cap as well and the issue persisted until I got rid of the PC and not once since. So I'd caution on the use of aftermarket electronics.
That is because all these companies with the exception of Banks PedalMonster use the 5 volts supplied to the drive by wire system to power their units. Banks is different, they engineered their PedalMonster to be powered by the OBDII port so it has a full 12 volts available to it. When your unit exceeds the 5 voltes it will throw a code, or damage the unit or worst case damage your ECU and is the result of the dreaded dead pedal. The Drive by wire system uses 4.7 to 4.8 volts on its own so that only leaves .2 to .3 of a volt to power the unit. Now you know why so many of these other brands suffer from the dreaded dead pedal. Banks using the OBDII port allows their unit to have more information available to it and it knows what gear the truck is in as well so when you go into reverse the unit automatically reverts to the stock program so you don't end up with to much throttle when trying to back up to a trailer or something else. Go to the Banks site and you can see the engineering they designed into their PedalMonster.
What a great comparison and perfect timing I was on the fence on which to get for my New 2023 Tacoma TRD off-road . I’m still on the fence since I’ve only had it about a week and 200 miles . I haven’t really noticed to much gear hunting strangely enough . Although power does seem a little flat . Then again I’m coming from a 2022 BMW M240i which is a different animal in comparison. Anyway thanks for the outstanding comparison so now I have much more information to compare and make my decision.
This is a very informative video! I had planned on installing a PC but I am going to go the OTT route once my warranty is up. I only have about 9000 miles on my Taco so I have to wait a bit but I'm looking forward to the better shifting and throttle response. Thanks for the great videos!!
Thanks very much for the comparison, as it's difficult to spend several hundred dollars on my '17 Tac Off Road w/90K miles, with so many other places my money is going lately. I'll likely do nothing to my truck as I'm now fairly used to shifting from automatic to manual mode and using the ECT button when desired, especially on my weekly climb up 7200' on I-80. Also, thanks to the many comments regarding the Pedal Commander and similar hardware products as I didn't even consider the possibility/probability the units might go bad sooner or later. I didn't even know the Tacoma''s even had a "limp mode" and hope to never encounter it.
Ran Sprint Booster for two years on my new Tacoma - yes, "squishy" delayed reaction stock throttle (almost dangerous, as you have to anticipate so much while driving - or be painfully ultra conservative ) is noticeable to virtually anyone driving the truck - Sprint Booster (and the PC) solve this very well (wife says truck now is "normal" w/ the SB). However, as you point out/experienced, the Tacoma 3rd Gen still has its shifting issues, desperately and quickly trying to get one into higher gears at the expense of everything else (!). Why you ask? Folks on TW claim it's all for emissions. Ooookayyy... we'll go w/ that. Anyway, driving the truck in rolling hill areas, often, and on cruise control, was tortuous w/ even w/ a SB (it solves only half the equation). The day I read the OTT tune can help the cruise .. I was in! So here's my review of both solutions/aids: Got the OTT tune (mild/medium). 2 days later I sold the Sprint Booster to a buddy w/ a brand new Tacoma. That sums it up. Truck is now very much improved and long term "livable". Also as quite a few have reported, my mpg often gets a 2 mpg boost. Bonus! Emissions - PFFFT!
Awesome video Chloe. I love the Pedal Commander and think it’s worth the money. But I’ll definitely get the OTT once I re-gear and go with bigger tires… since the tune will also take gears in effect and make the speedometer accurate.
Love my OTT! Favorite part is the step up in spicy or whatever you choose for the ECU button to do. I had the sprint booster last year and sold it quickly after purchase. I did wait til about 18k miles on my taco until I tuned it... great video!
Excellent comparison. After seeing your OTT tune I had my TRD 2022 done. Oh what a difference. Drove it for about 3 months and the takeoff from start was a little spicey so 2 weeks ago I had it readjusted.....perfect now! Thanks for the 2 videos on the Tacoma shifting. By the way how are those seat covers working out....they look good in the truck.
Chloe this is a great informational video. I am going to use both and combined with my TRD aftermarket grill and raptor lights my horsepower will definitely increase by 15hp. (nah JK)... getting that Tune.
I haven't found the OTT tune completely fixing the throttle response and shift issues. It's fine when taking off from a stop, but I still have issues with decelerating and having that same lag/hesitation when I accelerate. I'm really bummed it didn't eliminate all the weird issues. It hasn't been the game changer I had hoped for.
Nice video, as always. I run the Pedal Commander at Sport+, +3, and I love how it feels. It takes a while to get used to the sensitivity, but the ride is so much better than stock. Still, I think I will go with a the tune at some point. Oh, I removed the pedal commander when I took my 22 TRD OR to the dealership, and I couldn’t believe what a dog it was stock. Ugh. I am never going back to stock :)
From my experience with a Pedal Commander-type gizmo, the only thing it does is increase or decrease the responsiveness of the throttle, it doesn't do anything like a tune would do. That being said, it all depends on what you're trying to achieve. Something like a Pedal Commander is less costly and easier to install than a custom tune.
Awesome video , like always plenty of useful information. I myself was trying to decide which one I was going with . No I know I'm going for the tune thank you.
I believe your truck has the ECTPWR button underneath the climate controls. Press it, a little light will pop up on your dash and it will drastically improve the transmission shift points.
I love the channel and comments. I decided on a Banks pedal monster with idash super gauge. I don't use the app. I hear it's invasive so I cannot comment on that. I drive semirural. Lots of hills city and freeway are common. I tow an aluminum 2 horse slant. Frontier brand. Usually 1 horse. Loaded bed and tac room. Probably towing approximately 5000 lbs. Aftermarket brake controller. 2017 tacoma trd offroad. V6. Double cab. Also I had airbags. I hated the constant worry and ride quality was terrible. Blue sumo springs are perfect for me.
Tuners charge more in the pacific NW. went with commander. I do find less gear hunting now. Also with the pedal commander in eco-mode on long road trips. With a bed cover on the truck. I was averaging 24 miles per gallon. But city driving remains the same at about 18 1/2nto 19 mpg
I did not hear you mention this but according to the OTT site the tune also get you 7HP and 11lbs of torque and I don't think the pedal commander adds any more power. It just makes the throttle sensitive. I got the OTT tune a few weeks ago after this video I think I made the right choice for me.
That pedal commander doesn't add any power. I just got an OTT tune. The usual 3500 rmp power dip is gone. And the tune can adjust the throttle sensitivity also.
Thank you for this information. I've been thinking about doing something similar since I to don't care for the response of the pedal. I'm not a big fan of electronic pedals since the cars I've own since I learned to drive were all old school. Great job at giving many of us something to think about. it's no wonder we all love you. 🙂
not sure if anyone already commented on this, but think there is something to take into consideration that i didn't hear mentioned. Manual vs Automatic. I have a manual v6 and like the automatic, it lacked throttle response without modifications. The Pedal Commander with a is great for manual transmission. Being able to switch the sensitivity for weather, towing and road/off road conditions real time is a great feature for stick. I would highly consider pedal commander over a tune if you're driving a stick. I paid for my pedal commander and am not endorsed or paid for my opinion in case i sound like a salesman 😁
Thank you for such a great and helpful video, I’m under the impression that tuning is the way to go , I wonder what’s the impact on the mpg in your experience with both PC &tuning your truck
Nice vid. When I had my Taco, I used ECT a bunch and it was message board humor that ECT was extra horsespower and as you might think we all rolled with it lol.
I honestly tried both, but I actually enjoy the tune since I felt I got 2 miles more per gallon and no worries of having a module at your feet and trying to hide it
For best results, both. Pedal commander is a relatively cheap way to liven up your drive, but that's it. If you're working on a build and don't wanna constantly tune it, pedal commander can delay the urge to prematurely tune.
I did the Sprint Booster Throttle setting and i quit using because as you ramp up the setting from 1 to 10 sport mode or race mode.. It definitely changed the throttle response on my 22 tacoma But the transmission wasnt in sink with the throttle reponse in crease up shifting when you dont want it too.. Another time the trans couldnt make up its mind causing my trans to down shift and up shift with just a little increase of stepping on the pedal.. So i say no a sprint booster and / or a pc.. Everyone i see gets the overland tune installed, they are extremely happy. My appoint has been made the overland Tune.
I had Paul at PNWTuning flash my Tundra specifically because of gear hunting. Now I don't have to play guessing games with the throttle when towing. Thanks for revisiting this topic!
Been using the Pedal Commander for a few months now and find I'm most comfortable between Sport and Sport+. City seems to be too jumpy for me actually. I'm usually right about Sport 2 or 3. I don't know about the mileage because I put new tires on around the same time and just the new treads and the slightly bigger tire (still stock), the mileage changed anyway. But still love it. maybe I'll try the negative as I have not tried that yet. Thanks Chloe!
Same I noticed it was jumping in city and not in sport, which I don’t understand and the Eco mood actually works every other weekend I’m going to Arizona and it actually increased my mpg by 2
I own a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport and went with a Pedal Commander...loved it!!! EXCEPT it would bring in the CEL alarm every time and the truck would go into limp mode. Had to go to the dealer and get the alarm cleared with a code reader. After numerous times with this issue, I removed it. Apparently there is an issue with the 2016 models and this unit!!!
I've had both KDmax and OTT. The tailor tune is the best. The pedal commander is cool and all. But it doesn't do everything the tune does. Way superior.
I’ve had my ‘23 SR for about 7 months now, I’ve never really noticed these kinds of shift issues. Maybe because mine is a 2WD, but after the initial week it doesn’t seem to do those kinds of weird shifts, though I don’t do a lot of LA driving in NorCal. I’ll clock a solid 23-24mpg with every fill up, too. That’s by actual numbers, not the truck’s readout.
Love my Pedal Commander. The only draw backs are not being able to use cruise control and you have to remember not to change the settings while on the throttle
Thanks for the comparison! I went with the Banks Pedal Monster because of it's fail-safe feature, and the fact it communicates with the transmission to reduce some of the driveability issues you mentioned. I wish I had known how intrusive the phone app was before committing, though. It requires questionable permissions and taps into data it has no business digging into (how does location data enhance pedal feel?). If I had it to do over again I'd probably just commit to a tune, warranty be dammed.
My only question, does this harm the reliability at all in the long term? I would like to do something, but I also wonder why Toyota wouldn’t make it more “tolerable” from the factory. Idk, any opinions?
million dollar question IMO and nobody can give a straight answer. I would love it if some engineers would do a technical discussion of the inner workings. I'm considering buying all the gear from vf tuners just to ease my troubled mind
Got a Pedal Commander about 2.5 years ago, and it crapped out on me last week. Truck shut down to about 10 mph and I received an alert on my nav screen telling me there was a failure in the throttle control. Removed the PC and I'm back to normal factory throttle, but it works. Warranty on the Pedal Commander is two years, so I missed out. Not going to replace it.
Go with a Banks PedalMonster and you will not have that issue. The problem is all the pedal controller with the exception of the Banks PedalMonster use the drive by wires 5 volts to power their units, the drive by wire alone already uses 4.7 to 4.8 votes of that 5 volts so that only leaves you with a .2 to .3 of a volt to power your Pedal Commander or SpeedBoost, over time these units keep exceeding the 5 volts until they start failing and throwing codes and you get the dreaded dead pedal. Banks PedalMonster does not work the same way and you will not get the dreaded dead pedal with a PedalMonster. Go to the Banks site and you will the engineering Banks put into the PedalMonster that all the others do not have.
They sell lots of the Pedal C and seems most folks are happy. Used the PC for approx 4yrs and mutiple times put the truck into "Limp Mode". Very serious problem when on the interstate doing 80+mph. Seems if you dial the PC back to City and Eco mode it tends not to happen as much. Sport Mode+ you are asking for trouble. The PC causes voltage drop -- the computer goes nuts. Got rid of mine !!!
Your 100% correct Chloe ,the lag and sponge of the accelerator in those tacos makes them shabby too drive. Ruins the experience for me. I like a snappy throttle response and a transmission that’s shifts quickly and consistently. Good advice and possible options for tacos owner. Now I have used the “pedal monster “ in my AT4 duramax It flat works!! Made a world of difference in the 6.6 duramax. Good advice as always Chloe. Be safe have great day!
I love my pedal commander on my 2018 4runner two downsides are 1.) it uses an enormous amount of gas 2.) if the pedal commander is turned all the way up the 4runner gas pedal is way too responsive and makes the gears in the transmission shift too hard and acts like it has a major malfunction. So I leave it on Sport mode level 1 or 2 and it has major pick up without any hiccups.
Hi Chloe! Thanks for you all of your helpful videos. I bought a 2023 SR5 over the winter. I was not happy with the stock engine performance and soon after got the OTT tune. My only complaints are that it's pretty jumpy in tight situations like parking lots. Also does your truck also have a high/fast idle when the engine is cold? I know this is somewhat normal, but it's pretty annoying when you factor in the tune as well. Thanks for any feedback!
Chloe I think you’ve given Toyota enough good publicity where they should give you a New Tacoma when you’re ready for your next one.
Tacoma TRD Pro
Yes, but "new" would not include a 6 cylinder engine.
Chloe are you single?
Why would they “give” her a new one…. You must be on bidens side…. Everything for free.
From New Tacoma to political comment... PRICELESS hahahaha
I use the Pedal Commander with a 2.7 Tacoma and can’t imagine driving without it. I usually keep it in various city modes, but eco mode comes in very handy on snow and ice where less throttle response is desirable. The versatility for different driving situations is really nice.
Hello, I have the 4cyl 2.7 . as well. My 2020 4x4 has terrible lag, at a traffic circle slowing down then hitting the gas forget it the truck has nothing. Do find the pedal cmdr. worth it. I watch a lot of Tacoma vids, ROBMOTIVE is very informative as well.
If you like the pedal commander you should get the tune. Highly recommended. Pedal commander is no comparison to the tune. Threw my pedal commander in the garbage.
@@lt5640 if you had a gearbox what would you choose?
@@pampoovey3281 I kept my trd pro stock as possible. Only upgrade I did was the KO2 and tune and combo works well together.
Chloe, there's a better solution Toyota owners who want throttle adjustability at their fingertips. It's called a Banks PedalMonster. It's the only throttle controller with patented safety features like Reverse Safety. Because PedalMonster is connected to the OBD port, it knows your year, make, model, transmission type, speed and gear. This data stream allows it know when you're in reverse gear. It seamlessly returns you to stock throttle response when backing up. We'd 100% confident your viewers will appreciate it's features and smooth throttle response over other throttle controllers.
The biggest takeaway for me in this video was learning that there is someone nearby that can do the tune for me. Thank YOU!
I been using the Pedal Commander for a year now. No issues. I usually use Sport +2 or Sport plus +2. Love it!
Chloe! We just returned home with the OTT. I have a new truck - it really was a game changer. Very noticeable throttle response - that's the first thing we noticed. Shifting is dramatically better, especially pulling hills at highway speeds. One thing I didn't expect was how it improved idle while stopped. Also, nothing scientific, but on the way to the tune today, we were averaging about 18.5 MPG and on the way back home, it was averaging about 20 MPG. Same highway, same speeds. We went with the light/mild tune. No regrets at all. Thank you so much for the videos that helped us decide. Cheers!
I went with the tune, 1 week after getting it tuned my truck went to the dealership for service. Nothing was mentioned from them if I had got a tune. It certainly improved throttle response but the biggest improvement was no more darn gear hunting. As usual great video Chloe
Depends on what your truck went in for, the dealer if they connect to the ECU can tell every time the ECU has been programed, any tuner who's tune reprograms the ECU that tells you their tune is undetectable is lying to you. Todays ECU units keep count in their memory how many times the ECU has been reprogramed and the manufactures system will know how many times they have reprogramed the ECU so if you have more ECU programing counts then the manufacture has logged in their system to your vin they can and many have voided warranties for the engine and drivetrain.
Just be aware that you might end up having to cover a major repair on your dime so don't get mad at Toyota when you installed a tune.
Did you notice any improvement on the mpg?
They will only look for a tune if something goes catastrophically wrong, blown engine, etc.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 bought a 2016 tacoma used so the warranty is gone. The tune would be ok then correct? wouldnt matter now right?
@@KingofPho75 Out of warranty the dealer/manufacture has any warranty to deny, so if you want a tune out of warranty then you are good to go. Many tunes will improve the engine and transmission if the tune includes transmission tune in it as well.
I tuned my 2019 Ram 1500 ecodiesel two weeks after I bought it with just 1,800 miles on the odometer, the tune was from Green Diesel Engineering and I purchased the transmission tune with the engine tune, cost me just a tad over $1,100 dollars but their tune corrected a lot of issues on the ecodiesels so for my it was worth it, but I also knew that FCA could void my powertrain warranty if they wanted to. I never had to take the truck in for any warranty service so it was never an issue but FCA was known to void warranties if they found foot prints of a tune.
I just bought a used 2021 tacoma and I noticed this gear shifting and thought my transmission was shot 😂 time to get a tune! Thanks so much for all of your content!
I driver a 4Runner but it seems like the Tacoma community has better videos. Thank you, Chloe.
Thanks Chloe, I was on the fence about an Overland Tailor Tune but now I am going to get it installed. I live in the Rocky Mountain region of Montana so anywhere I go there are mountains and I’m annoyed by this bad boy always hunting for gears. Keep doing great things in Life and on your channel!
Thank You for this evaluation & installation guide!! Originally I didn't think I needed it that bad for $300. I went to the site to purchase it & then left, thinking I would buy it in a couple months when I had more money. Then Pedal Commander texted me with an additional $20 off motivational discount & I went ahead & bought it. Definitely worth the money, even if it only had City mode, it's WAY better than OEM performance.
Thank you for this video! I know I made the right choice after seeing this. I love my OTT and so happy with it! It changed the whole driving a Tacoma experience to a very happy, comfortable and smooth drive. Thank you again!
I have a Banks pedal monster in my 22 power wagon and it is worth every penny. I have had it for about a year with zero issues, awesome difference from stock, I will always have a pedal monster in whatever I own .
I had been looking forward to this video. I've done both pedal commander and tune. Tune was definitely better. Great comparison video for those that that are debating which route to go.
Tune x10000. It’s by far the best upgrade I’ve made to my truck. It’s night and day and makes driving enjoyable again. If you’re on the fence, just do it. Any legit tuner will let you try their tune before you pay. And most give you a one month money back guarantee and will set you back to stock.
Honest question, I’m not trying to be snarky, but what is the advantage of the tune? I’ve loved the way my SR drives from day one, is it worth it for me?
@@corneliuscrewe677 i got my truck tuned a couple months ago and its night and day difference! before the tune it just seemed so sluggish and the gear searching was annoying. now when I step on the gas Im moving!
@@trianglechokeU That’s what I’m getting at, though, I’ve never felt like it was sluggish, even with 8 bales of hay in the back. On the other hand, if it can be improved from that, maybe it’s worth looking into...
@@corneliuscrewe677 you wont be disappointed!
@@corneliuscrewe677 what year is your truck? If you’re happy with it, I’d leave it alone and count yourself lucky. I’ve met very few that like the way the 3rd gen shifts though.
Personally I think the thing that the thing the Pedal Commander does best is REDUCE throttle sensitivity for wheeling. In econo setting the pedal commander can do a decent job of reducing sensitivity, so it is good for helping reduce wheel spin. When everyone was going gaga over the pedal commander, I did some research, and I spoke to some P C people, and what they told me is that it is not capable of adding more power to the truck. It lets you get more throttle for a given amount of pushing the pedal. It gives you more of a kick in the seat. BUT a wheeler posted an argument in their favor, not in them letting you get faster throttle, but rather letting you reduce the amount of throttle for a given amount of pedal movement. It lets you have more control, then switch it back to normal driving conditions. A given amount of throttle opening is a given amount of throttle opening. the difference is how much pedal movement is needed.
To be fair, that wheeler changed my opinion of Pedal Commander, and other throttle tuners I had considered them to be nothing but a placebo, but you have to understand what you are actually getting. For offroading, that added control helps... the other modes... it is doing nothing in terms of added power and wether the eco mode helps your fuel economy or not is dependant on you (it won't do much if you start burying your foot in the throttle instead of half throttle when accelerating, and if you are still gunning it on the sportier modes, your economy will actually be worse). What it does is alter how the trucks responds to your driving style.
A proper tune on the other hand can also (in theory) remap air fuel ratios, remap shifting, remap throttle response, recalibrate gauges for tire size changes (though I have read that federal regulations are decreasing the amount of things tuners can adjust). Personally I would not mind both, but I would use the PC strictly for decreasing throttle sensitivity on the trail. overall, I would rather have the tune, especially once I move up to larger tires. Over all I will go the tuner route and maybe try something for on the fly desensitizing of the throttle while on the trails.
Yeah exactly, they are completely different things, it is a bit of an odd comparison. You can happily run the Pedal Commander with an ECU tune.
I don't own a Tacoma ,I have a Nissan Frontier Pro4x.
Used a Pedal commander for years, Also had my gears redone so that and PC together is a great combo i have no tune whatsoever.
It runs fine i am also using a manual and to be honest i don't think a tune will do much more than i am already pulling so i am ok with it but the PC does help out in catching speed and slowing down the pace 100%
Thanks for the comparison between the PC and OTT. Im definitely going with the tune as I want both response and gear hunting issues corrected.
I have the OTT tune with no throttle adjustment. I have my pedal commander for that. I went for the throttle lock feature when you turn on ECT. It’s great for towing. I can now mash the throttle without it constantly downshifting unwontedly. It will still downshift when decelerating. With all these factors its worth the $.
90k miles and my truck actually drives like it should .
I would recommend Pedal Commander for those who are under Factory Warranty and OTT for when your out of the factory warranty!
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What's the basis for your recommendation? Truly curious.
@@sonelovan4563once you flash your ECU, you could void your warranty, most manufacturers will void it actually!
@@sonelovan4563 The OTT COULD void your Factory warranty. And if there was ever any problems, you might have to pay for the repair yourself. So it’s best to wait until that is expired before installing it. The pedal commander won’t void it and it’s really easy to uninstall if you need to take your vehicle in for warranty work.
@@sonelovan4563 Todays ECU units keep count of how many times your ECU has been flashed and they know when Toyota is the one who flashed it or not. That is kept in your trucks computer file which goes off of your trucks VIN number. So while Toyota might not know what company you got your tune from they will know that the ECU has been reprogrammed more times than the Toyota file in their computer system shows it should have.
Are you willing to pay a two or three thousand or more repair bill out of pocket when your vehicle was under warranty but you put a tune on it and now your drivetrain warranty and engine warranty are now void.
Any tuner who reprograms the ECU that tells you their tune is undetectable is lying to you. Many manufactures will have dealers look for the ECU flash count in the ECU and if it does not match the manufactures records and you have more reprograms than it should have will void your engine and drivetrain warranty on the spot. So if you reprogrammed your ECU with a tune and your transmission goes out and the dealer/manufacture sees the flash count of the ECU has more flashes than the manufacture has recorded you can kiss your warranty goodbye and you will have to pay for that $6,000 dollar transmission.
Excellent video! Just started watching your videos as I'm in the process of ordering my first Tacoma from the factory. Your killing it as well as my wallet. Keep up the great work.
With the Overland tune back installed, try throwing your factory rims and tires back on the truck. It’ll feel like a rocket ship and your mileage will go through the roof. The additional unsprung weight of your large wheels and tires Eat up a very large amount of horsepower to turn them.
What kind of MPG is possible? Almost bought a TRD Sport this summer but can’t do 19 mpg
@@NinerK With factory wheels, tires, tune and no mods to gearing I get up to 25 Highway doing 65ish. V6 2wd and longbed.
@@GateOpenersDirect wow! That’s good. That’s what they are estimating for the new iForce Max
@@NinerK I guess I should mention I have the Trd cold air intake, and an aftermarket exhaust to help it breathe better. I also use redline Synthetic oil and I add EXP polymer treatment to the oil as well as using a K&N high-performance oil and air filter. I basically maintain the truck like it’s a Cessna. Those modifications probably add a few horsepower and a few of pounds of torque but overall I just don’t beat on it, and usually drive it with the transmission in sport mode unless I’m doing 70+ on the highway.
@@GateOpenersDirect sounds like a great setup, thanks for sharing the insight. Used to drive 20,000+ for work so I have a rav4 hybrid. But now driving less and looking to get into a truck. But after 40 mpg with my RAV4 it would be tough to drop below 25 mpg
Great video as always. You're the person (and doing my own research) who convinced me the OTT was the way to go. Set it and forget it is my style. Got it for towing our 3,500lbs travel trailer and daily driving, and it's the bomb. Gas mileage improved about 1 MPG and about 2 MPG towing. The best $500 I've spent on a truck mod and super happy! Thank you!
The pedal commander is cool but I got the tune and it's a night/day difference!
If anyone is watching this a debating getting the tune… just do it. Got mine done yesterday and it’s removed all doubt of wanting to sell the truck. This is how it should’ve come out the factory.
Got the OTT, very pleased and recommend to everyone that wants to improve pedal response and stop the gear hunting.
Great comparison video! I have been trying to decide between these two options, and after watching your video and reading through the comments I think I'll try tuning my 2023 Tacoma Sport. Thanks Chloe, peace!
Thanks, Chloe! I installed the Sprint Booster 1.5 years ago, and I travel with an Airstream full-time. I keep the setting a 2 in both modes with the Tacoma. It works well. Just recently, I started using it with the trailer, while traveling in Montana, where 2 lanes are 70 mph. You need to accelerate to speed quickly. The other issue is accidentally leaving the booster on, while letting it sit for 2 weeks. It will drain your battery. You need to turn it off for extended periods of not driving. Pax tecum.
I just traded my 2020 4Runner for a new 2023 Tacoma. What airstream are you pulling? How much weight? Looking at pulling the Winnebago Hike100 3,000 lbs dry 4,000 lbs max loaded.
@@TommyLuptak Airstream Bambi 16RB 3,800 lbs loaded. Truck bed full
@@thetinkercook5430 nice! We looked at the Bambi at the Tampa show 11 months ago, but I’ve got to say the Winnebago hike100 took my heart. How’s towing that weight? And do you use the Sumo Springs? (Bump stops) I’m going to checkout what a sprint booster is. 🙏🏻😊
@@TommyLuptak Truck limit is 6,700. No additional support - just Fastway e2 Trunnion hitch. Took through mountains in Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and Colorado. Works a little harder, but no real problems. I turn the Sprint Booster off and just ECT in mountains
Just ordered the Banks Pedal Monster for my wifes Limited Nite Shade. I have one in my Superduty Godzilla and it does make it soo much more fun to drive. And its made in the good ol USA.
I had a pedal commander on my 2019 4runner, but after the vehicle kept going into limp mode (1-2x per week) I bought an error code reader that showed "throttle position sensor error". After I removed the PC I never had any further issues. I had previously replaced the gas cap as well and the issue persisted until I got rid of the PC and not once since. So I'd caution on the use of aftermarket electronics.
I had the same thing happen to me with a sprint booster on my Tacoma
Been having a PC since day #2 of buying my 2019 Tacoma. Never had an issues in city +2
That is because all these companies with the exception of Banks PedalMonster use the 5 volts supplied to the drive by wire system to power their units. Banks is different, they engineered their PedalMonster to be powered by the OBDII port so it has a full 12 volts available to it. When your unit exceeds the 5 voltes it will throw a code, or damage the unit or worst case damage your ECU and is the result of the dreaded dead pedal. The Drive by wire system uses 4.7 to 4.8 volts on its own so that only leaves .2 to .3 of a volt to power the unit. Now you know why so many of these other brands suffer from the dreaded dead pedal.
Banks using the OBDII port allows their unit to have more information available to it and it knows what gear the truck is in as well so when you go into reverse the unit automatically reverts to the stock program so you don't end up with to much throttle when trying to back up to a trailer or something else.
Go to the Banks site and you can see the engineering they designed into their PedalMonster.
What a great comparison and perfect timing I was on the fence on which to get for my New 2023 Tacoma TRD off-road . I’m still on the fence since I’ve only had it about a week and 200 miles . I haven’t really noticed to much gear hunting strangely enough . Although power does seem a little flat . Then again I’m coming from a 2022 BMW M240i which is a different animal in comparison. Anyway thanks for the outstanding comparison so now I have much more information to compare and make my decision.
Great takes, it really is all about what you're looking for in the end!
This is a very informative video! I had planned on installing a PC but I am going to go the OTT route once my warranty is up. I only have about 9000 miles on my Taco so I have to wait a bit but I'm looking forward to the better shifting and throttle response. Thanks for the great videos!!
I’ve got my pedal commander years ago for my 2017 … love it. One of the best mods I’ve done….
Thanks very much for the comparison, as it's difficult to spend several hundred dollars on my '17 Tac Off Road w/90K miles, with so many other places my money is going lately. I'll likely do nothing to my truck as I'm now fairly used to shifting from automatic to manual mode and using the ECT button when desired, especially on my weekly climb up 7200' on I-80.
Also, thanks to the many comments regarding the Pedal Commander and similar hardware products as I didn't even consider the possibility/probability the units might go bad sooner or later. I didn't even know the Tacoma''s even had a "limp mode" and hope to never encounter it.
I'm getting the OTT tomorrow morning! Can't wait!
How do you like it vs stock im getting my OTT on Monday!
Getting my overland tune on Monday for my 2019 Tacoma TRD Pro and I’m stoked!
Thanks, Chloe! Great insights. I appreciate the work you did to put this together for us.
what a vibe. i like how you add different visuals for different things you talk about
Ran Sprint Booster for two years on my new Tacoma - yes, "squishy" delayed reaction stock throttle (almost dangerous, as you have to anticipate so much while driving - or be painfully ultra conservative ) is noticeable to virtually anyone driving the truck - Sprint Booster (and the PC) solve this very well (wife says truck now is "normal" w/ the SB). However, as you point out/experienced, the Tacoma 3rd Gen still has its shifting issues, desperately and quickly trying to get one into higher gears at the expense of everything else (!). Why you ask? Folks on TW claim it's all for emissions. Ooookayyy... we'll go w/ that.
Anyway, driving the truck in rolling hill areas, often, and on cruise control, was tortuous w/ even w/ a SB (it solves only half the equation). The day I read the OTT tune can help the cruise .. I was in!
So here's my review of both solutions/aids:
Got the OTT tune (mild/medium). 2 days later I sold the Sprint Booster to a buddy w/ a brand new Tacoma. That sums it up. Truck is now very much improved and long term "livable". Also as quite a few have reported, my mpg often gets a 2 mpg boost. Bonus! Emissions - PFFFT!
Im going with Sprint Booter the original Pedal throttle, I think its still the best one out there.Thanks for your videos Chloe.
That's what i have for my manual 4x4 2012, makes it fun to drive
Awesome video Chloe. I love the Pedal Commander and think it’s worth the money. But I’ll definitely get the OTT once I re-gear and go with bigger tires… since the tune will also take gears in effect and make the speedometer accurate.
Love my OTT! Favorite part is the step up in spicy or whatever you choose for the ECU button to do. I had the sprint booster last year and sold it quickly after purchase. I did wait til about 18k miles on my taco until I tuned it... great video!
Been done for a long time. KDMAX for the win.
thanks for the good review and unboxing. mine coming tomorrow
I don't have a Tacoma, but I subscribed to this channel
I don't trust anyone but you Chloe, when it comes to my taco!!!!!
Such quality content. I don't even own a Tacoma, but I do love DIY on my own vehicle. Great job!
Excellent comparison. After seeing your OTT tune I had my TRD 2022 done. Oh what a difference. Drove it for about 3 months and the takeoff from start was a little spicey so 2 weeks ago I had it readjusted.....perfect now! Thanks for the 2 videos on the Tacoma shifting. By the way how are those seat covers working out....they look good in the truck.
Chloe this is a great informational video. I am going to use both and combined with my TRD aftermarket grill and raptor lights my horsepower will definitely increase by 15hp. (nah JK)... getting that Tune.
I haven't found the OTT tune completely fixing the throttle response and shift issues. It's fine when taking off from a stop, but I still have issues with decelerating and having that same lag/hesitation when I accelerate. I'm really bummed it didn't eliminate all the weird issues. It hasn't been the game changer I had hoped for.
What engine do you have?
I have a pedal commander and usually keep it on the city +1 but still use the shifter to hold the gear I want going up a hill.
Same here!
Chloe, I took advantage of your 5% discount at Tacoma Beast 😃
Nice video, as always. I run the Pedal Commander at Sport+, +3, and I love how it feels. It takes a while to get used to the sensitivity, but the ride is so much better than stock. Still, I think I will go with a the tune at some point. Oh, I removed the pedal commander when I took my 22 TRD OR to the dealership, and I couldn’t believe what a dog it was stock. Ugh. I am never going back to stock :)
From my experience with a Pedal Commander-type gizmo, the only thing it does is increase or decrease the responsiveness of the throttle, it doesn't do anything like a tune would do. That being said, it all depends on what you're trying to achieve. Something like a Pedal Commander is less costly and easier to install than a custom tune.
I didn't even know this was a thing. I just bought a 23 Taco SR5 and I'm definitely going to look into this after my warranty runs out.
Awesome video , like always plenty of useful information. I myself was trying to decide which one I was going with . No I know I'm going for the tune thank you.
I believe your truck has the ECTPWR button underneath the climate controls. Press it, a little light will pop up on your dash and it will drastically improve the transmission shift points.
I gotta check this out
I love the channel and comments. I decided on a Banks pedal monster with idash super gauge. I don't use the app. I hear it's invasive so I cannot comment on that. I drive semirural. Lots of hills city and freeway are common. I tow an aluminum 2 horse slant. Frontier brand. Usually 1 horse. Loaded bed and tac room. Probably towing approximately 5000 lbs. Aftermarket brake controller. 2017 tacoma trd offroad. V6. Double cab. Also I had airbags. I hated the constant worry and ride quality was terrible. Blue sumo springs are perfect for me.
Tuners charge more in the pacific NW. went with commander. I do find less gear hunting now. Also with the pedal commander in eco-mode on long road trips. With a bed cover on the truck. I was averaging 24 miles per gallon. But city driving remains the same at about 18 1/2nto 19 mpg
With your ect button on…. The combo is great !
I have the pedal commander and it works great. Easily removable if needed.
Makes a huge difference!
I did not hear you mention this but according to the OTT site the tune also get you 7HP and 11lbs of torque and I don't think the pedal commander adds any more power. It just makes the throttle sensitive. I got the OTT tune a few weeks ago after this video I think I made the right choice for me.
That pedal commander doesn't add any power. I just got an OTT tune. The usual 3500 rmp power dip is gone. And the tune can adjust the throttle sensitivity also.
Thank you for this information. I've been thinking about doing something similar since I to don't care for the response of the pedal. I'm not a big fan of electronic pedals since the cars I've own since I learned to drive were all old school. Great job at giving many of us something to think about. it's no wonder we all love you. 🙂
not sure if anyone already commented on this, but think there is something to take into consideration that i didn't hear mentioned. Manual vs Automatic. I have a manual v6 and like the automatic, it lacked throttle response without modifications. The Pedal Commander with a is great for manual transmission. Being able to switch the sensitivity for weather, towing and road/off road conditions real time is a great feature for stick. I would highly consider pedal commander over a tune if you're driving a stick. I paid for my pedal commander and am not endorsed or paid for my opinion in case i sound like a salesman 😁
Super helpful video!
Thank you for such a great and helpful video, I’m under the impression that tuning is the way to go , I wonder what’s the impact on the mpg in your experience with both PC &tuning your truck
Nice vid. When I had my Taco, I used ECT a bunch and it was message board humor that ECT was extra horsespower and as you might think we all rolled with it lol.
I honestly tried both, but I actually enjoy the tune since I felt I got 2 miles more per gallon and no worries of having a module at your feet and trying to hide it
OTT with 5.29's is mind blown!
For best results, both. Pedal commander is a relatively cheap way to liven up your drive, but that's it. If you're working on a build and don't wanna constantly tune it, pedal commander can delay the urge to prematurely tune.
I did the Sprint Booster Throttle setting and i quit using because as you ramp up the setting from 1 to 10 sport mode or race mode.. It definitely changed the throttle response on my 22 tacoma But the transmission wasnt in sink with the throttle reponse in crease up shifting when you dont want it too.. Another time the trans couldnt make up its mind causing my trans to down shift and up shift with just a little increase of stepping on the pedal.. So i say no a sprint booster and / or a pc.. Everyone i see gets the overland tune installed, they are extremely happy.
My appoint has been made the overland Tune.
Just hear me out... Overland TQ Tune...AND Pedal Commander at the same time... 🧐In all seriousness, great video, thanks a bunch
I had Paul at PNWTuning flash my Tundra specifically because of gear hunting. Now I don't have to play guessing games with the throttle when towing.
Thanks for revisiting this topic!
How much was it if you don’t mind me asking?
@@ParZIVal19D it was $550 in June 2023
Been using the Pedal Commander for a few months now and find I'm most comfortable between Sport and Sport+. City seems to be too jumpy for me actually. I'm usually right about Sport 2 or 3. I don't know about the mileage because I put new tires on around the same time and just the new treads and the slightly bigger tire (still stock), the mileage changed anyway. But still love it. maybe I'll try the negative as I have not tried that yet. Thanks Chloe!
Same I noticed it was jumping in city and not in sport, which I don’t understand and the Eco mood actually works every other weekend I’m going to Arizona and it actually increased my mpg by 2
I own a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport and went with a Pedal Commander...loved it!!! EXCEPT it would bring in the CEL alarm every time and the truck would go into limp mode. Had to go to the dealer and get the alarm cleared with a code reader. After numerous times with this issue, I removed it. Apparently there is an issue with the 2016 models and this unit!!!
"I'm far from perfect" Chloe, you are an angel sent from god and we really appreciate all you do and your videos are amazing!
I've had both KDmax and OTT. The tailor tune is the best. The pedal commander is cool and all. But it doesn't do everything the tune does. Way superior.
Chloe,thanks for the info as always your the best take care.
I use ECT PWR everyday on my 2022 can’t wait to see how it works with the pedal commander
I’ve had my ‘23 SR for about 7 months now, I’ve never really noticed these kinds of shift issues. Maybe because mine is a 2WD, but after the initial week it doesn’t seem to do those kinds of weird shifts, though I don’t do a lot of LA driving in NorCal. I’ll clock a solid 23-24mpg with every fill up, too. That’s by actual numbers, not the truck’s readout.
Do you have the 4 banger? If so, the tranny on those are different from the v6 models.
@@carplay5454 Nope, it’s the V6.
Thanks Chloe I just use your Coupon for my purchase🎉your the best ❤❤❤
TENGO DOS YEARS CON EL PEDAL COMANDER MI TACOMA ES UN AUTO DE CARRERAS SUPER PODEROSO
Manual for the win!
Thank you for this it really helped me make a decission.
kdmax pro on a 1week old 22 taco off road and no regrets
choe live in Arkansas and I got a tune on my 2nd gen Tacoma and I love the enhancement to my ECT.
It’s a no brainer to get the tune. Got mine last month for $400.
Love my Pedal Commander. The only draw backs are not being able to use cruise control and you have to remember not to change the settings while on the throttle
Good to know. Not being able to use cruise is a deal breaker.
You can use cruise control with it.. says it on the website. Cruise control is a different system than the throttle
Thanks for the comparison! I went with the Banks Pedal Monster because of it's fail-safe feature, and the fact it communicates with the transmission to reduce some of the driveability issues you mentioned. I wish I had known how intrusive the phone app was before committing, though. It requires questionable permissions and taps into data it has no business digging into (how does location data enhance pedal feel?). If I had it to do over again I'd probably just commit to a tune, warranty be dammed.
My only question, does this harm the reliability at all in the long term? I would like to do something, but I also wonder why Toyota wouldn’t make it more “tolerable” from the factory. Idk, any opinions?
million dollar question IMO and nobody can give a straight answer. I would love it if some engineers would do a technical discussion of the inner workings. I'm considering buying all the gear from vf tuners just to ease my troubled mind
Totally agree, I can't stand how my 18 TRF Sport stays in 1st gear too long or bogs down at times. For a 6 cyl it shouldn't behave like this.
I used to be a TACO driver(2016,1999) now I'm all about the JEEP LIFE. But I'll always have a place in my garage for a TACO just in case😜
Got a Pedal Commander about 2.5 years ago, and it crapped out on me last week. Truck shut down to about 10 mph and I received an alert on my nav screen telling me there was a failure in the throttle control. Removed the PC and I'm back to normal factory throttle, but it works. Warranty on the Pedal Commander is two years, so I missed out. Not going to replace it.
Go with a Banks PedalMonster and you will not have that issue. The problem is all the pedal controller with the exception of the Banks PedalMonster use the drive by wires 5 volts to power their units, the drive by wire alone already uses 4.7 to 4.8 votes of that 5 volts so that only leaves you with a .2 to .3 of a volt to power your Pedal Commander or SpeedBoost, over time these units keep exceeding the 5 volts until they start failing and throwing codes and you get the dreaded dead pedal.
Banks PedalMonster does not work the same way and you will not get the dreaded dead pedal with a PedalMonster. Go to the Banks site and you will the engineering Banks put into the PedalMonster that all the others do not have.
Try the pedal commander with your tune. it is only modifying your throttle output.
They sell lots of the Pedal C and seems most folks are happy. Used the PC for approx 4yrs and mutiple times put the truck into "Limp Mode". Very serious problem when on the interstate doing 80+mph. Seems if you dial the PC back to City and Eco mode it tends not to happen as much. Sport Mode+ you are asking for trouble. The PC causes voltage drop -- the computer goes nuts. Got rid of mine !!!
I installed the Pedal Commander 5 months ago and it was night and day difference. I drive on City mode.
Your 100% correct Chloe ,the lag and sponge of the accelerator in those tacos makes them shabby too drive. Ruins the experience for me. I like a snappy throttle response and a transmission that’s shifts quickly and consistently. Good advice and possible options for tacos owner. Now I have used the “pedal monster “ in my AT4 duramax It flat works!! Made a world of difference in the 6.6 duramax. Good advice as always Chloe. Be safe have great day!
I love my pedal commander on my 2018 4runner two downsides are 1.) it uses an enormous amount of gas 2.) if the pedal commander is turned all the way up the 4runner gas pedal is way too responsive and makes the gears in the transmission shift too hard and acts like it has a major malfunction. So I leave it on Sport mode level 1 or 2 and it has major pick up without any hiccups.
Hi Chloe! Thanks for you all of your helpful videos. I bought a 2023 SR5 over the winter. I was not happy with the stock engine performance and soon after got the OTT tune. My only complaints are that it's pretty jumpy in tight situations like parking lots. Also does your truck also have a high/fast idle when the engine is cold? I know this is somewhat normal, but it's pretty annoying when you factor in the tune as well. Thanks for any feedback!