Ukraine and its Jews
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- A discussion of Ukrainian-Jewish identity in historical context. Delivered as the Guthaner Lecture of Congregation Beth Am, Los Altos CA, on April 24, 2002.
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I was born in Lviv and my grandmother told me that in the 80's when alot of Ukrainian Jews were moving to Israel and America, they were selling their apartments, furniture and belongings. So my grandparents bought out all furniture, nice sturdy wood, from a jewish family who was moving to Israel, we still have that furniture. Also my English teacher, she was also my building neighbor, she was also my English tutor was also Ukrainian Jew, I remember her saying she could of moved to Israel but didn't want to leave Ukraine. Also I recently found out in our city center in Lviv there is a big Jewish prayer room, it was from the 1700s. It's painting and words are all in Hebrew. Though I'd share it.
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It must be an amazing place, the Jewish prayer room.
@@eileenmacdougall8945 Yes Eileen it’s awesome to be in a Jewish prayer room but we Christians are under a better covenant with better promises Hebrews 8:6. We Christians pray in Jesus name and the Jews haven’t yet got Jesus name until they call on the Lord Jesus for forgiveness and salvation and eternal life ua-cam.com/video/vN9GR6xRw24/v-deo.html
is that Lemberg in Austrohungay
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Good lecture. I have one critique however. Geography and demographics played a very large role in influencing the linguistic development of Ukrainian Jews. If we are talking about the urban populations in 20th century of course Russian was the dominant language (as it was for most non-Jews as well). However, as is well known many Jews lived in semi-urban or rural environments. I am not as accomplished of an academic as you Dr. Abramson but I have done a lot of work with the USC Shoah Foundation, Centropa, AHYEM, and other databases of oral history. Most Jews living in so called shtetls or villages especially those in Vinnytsia region or in left-bank Ukraine (Poltava, Chernihiv) knew Ukrainian about as well as any their non-Jewish neighbors. Most of them spoke the same local dialect of surzhyk. In some of the ethnographic interviews conducted by Yiddish linguists like Dov-Ber Kerler and Dovid Katz you can see that although some of these individuals knew Yiddish as their mame loshn many struggled hard not to revert to surzhyk or Russian in the interview. It is a known fact that even after the passage of the May Laws in the late 19th century many Jews continued to live in villages throughout Ukraine illegally. Some of Jews who grew up in these villages in the 19th and 20th century had a poor grasp of Yiddish. This suggests that even their parents assimilated to the dominant linguistic environment. This can be gathered from the oral histories recorded by USC Shoah Foundation and Centropa. Keep mind linguistic assimilation is not the same as cultural assimilation. Lastly, I will state that I was able to conduct interviews with two elderly Jewish woman in the "city" (really a rayon center with a village character) of Pryluky in southern Chernihiv Oblast. I conducted the interview in Ukrainian and she responded in her locally accented Russian. This woman was born in the mid 30s and had extensive memories of Pryluky's Jewish community. When I asked her if every Jew in Pryluky knew Russian she said most but not all of the older ones did. I asked her then about Yiddish to my surprise she said the same thing, that not everyone spoke it. She then wittingly responded however that everyone even the chickens and cows knew how to speak Ukrainian. Another elderly woman born in 1940, my friends grandmother sated that growing up even in her family (people who were native speakers of Yiddish) she almost never heard it spoken in the community. This woman speaks the most rich Pryluky surzhyk. I think it says a lot about the loss of prestige of Yiddish overtime. Now Ukrainian especially the local variety also wasn't prestigious but it could hardly be avoided it was in rural and semi-rural/semi-urban environments omnipresent. Sorry for my long-winded response.
My father was from a small village in the Ivano-Frankivst oblast. He lived there until 20. The area was mainly inhabited by Ukrainians and Poles. His main language was Yiddish. He also spoke Polish, Russian and some German. He never even mentioned having spoken Ukrainian and his village is in Ukraine.
The locations you’re referring to were, iirc, within the Russian Pale from 1835 through 1917, and later were under Soviet control until its collapse. This makes that area linguistically distinct from areas outside the Pale.
Also, during the mid-19th century and after, Jews were increasingly choosing (or were forced) to send their children to state-run schools. In some areas, Jewish boys were permitted to attend traditional religious Jewish schools, but until the 20th century, there were no equivalent schools for girls; as well, an increasing number of Jews were leaving traditional life and were modernizing. State-run schools were, of course, conducted in official languages: in what’s now western Ukraine, they were taught in Polish. Many of those children wanted to fit in with their non-Jewish classmates, so didn’t speak Yiddish outside the home or their immediate family. Many picked up Ukrainian words but spoke Polish as a second or third language, along with German, in some places; rarely Ukrainian, as a regular thing.
In the Pale, Russian was of course taught in the schools and, given its similarity to Ukrainian, and given the necessity to interact with their neighbors, of course Jews would have spoken it. Especially those who hoped to get special permission to settle outside the Pale. Under the Soviets, after a brief moment of encouragement to speak Yiddish, the government acted to suppress Jewish language and culture, so many Jews stopped speaking Yiddish.
These changes, whether inside the Pale or outside, spread rapidly across Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries, and often caused rifts within families. So language usage could shift within a generation. In Austrian Galicia, for example, there was a phenomenon of girls who had attended state schools and were facing arranged marriages to run away from home - in some cases, they even converted to Christianity so that they could live modern lives, advance their education, work at careers newly opened to women, and choose whom to marry (or whether to marry at all). This happened often enough that there were newspaper articles about it. The famous stories by Sholem Aleichem called “Tevye’s Daughters” - the main source of “Fiddler on the Roof” - were influenced by this trend.
Three of my grandparents were children of what’s now western Ukraine, in Galicia outside the Pale. They grew up in the U.S., speaking Yiddish at home and English outside. They didn’t speak Yiddish to their children, so neither of my parents spoke it. That’s a change of language in just one generation. So it’s likely that changes within the Pale represented a similar process of assimilation, strongly influenced by Russian and then Soviet governments. So Yiddish was easily a strong factor throughout Jewish Ukraine, but was quickly dropped in the modern era, depending on time and place.
BTW in US census records, among Jews who immigrated to the US from Eastern Europe in the late-19th and early- and mid-20th centuries, I’ve seen the native language listed as Yiddish, Polish, German, Hungarian, Russian, etc. - but never Ukrainian.
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Thank you, Doctor Abramson.
Your research is formidable, and your teaching talent shows up in the way you organize and communicate your material.
Wow, thank you for your kind words! I appreciate the feedback.
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We identified with Russians because we spoke their language, received their education and were part of the USSR. I lived in Ukraine from 1978 to 1989 and always thought myself a Russian. In fact if you ask, majority of former USSR Jews say they are Russian because it’s what they know.
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Things have changed since 1989
@@HenryAbramsonPhD for some people, not all. More importantly for people living in Ukraine currently. Yes. On the other hand those that left 30 years ago when it was part of the USSR the age range is 30 to 100 that's a lot of people. Most of whom would have identified as Russian. Many many still do. I am one of them Being from Odessa pre 1991. To me Ukraine is a more foreign concept that Russia.
In Canada, particularly, in Toronto, and surrounding territories, Jews from Ukraine, call themselves Russians but their names and surnames purely Ukrainian, which surprised me
The parents of Poutine are ukrainiens? It seems that Poutine blames on Staline to separate Ukraine from Russia for administration reasons?
The victors always write the history! So these Jews TODAY support the azov brigade? How complex can it be? It's a damn shame
Thank you for an informative lecture/discussion. My paternal grandmother was raised in Odessa approx from 1870s and graduated from a Gymnasium with a MEDAL....she was a most literate person and spoke Russian...she married Haim from Vilna and I am not sure whether they spoke Yiddish or Russian or perhaps both....grandpa was strictly "Orthodox" and she complied...they left in the late 1890s and settled in Dublin where some family had already settled... destiny brought them to South Africa in 1930s because their eldest daughter was introduced to a young Attorney from Cape Town who was visiting family in Dublin! C'est la vie!
Very interesting
Amazing lecture that present us the complexity of identities in the region. Thank you very much!
You're very welcome!
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Thank you again Dr. 🙏
As usual enjoying both style and content of your lectures
I find the style promotes memorization of the content.
Keep on, dont hurry. Its so interesting
This channel is unmatched for primary sources. While I maybe do not agree with some of your contemporary opinions you have fantastic sources. Rare on UA-cam!
Thanks for the fascinating content; I do believe that my Father's side of the family lived in Odessa before settling in the UK in the 1800's Do you have any material I could watch or read about Jewish life in Odessa, which from my brief studies seemed to be full of Pirates and Jews, sounds like an intriguing combination;
See the work of Steven Zipperstein
I think explanation is very simple. In 1941 Ukrainians needed Germany’s help in fight for independence and they acted accordingly. Now they need Germany’s help for independence and they are acting accordingly. Before war with Russia, many Jewish tourists came to see the land where their parents, grandparents, etc. grew up. Given revenue that tourists brought, how could Ukrainians not be welcoming? Regarding how bad Ukrainians were during war. While there were a lot of Ukrainians who helped Nazis, there were many times more Ukrainians in Soviet Army fighting Nazis.
Its not about tourism. Its about the fact that we grew up with Jews tightly intertwined into our lives. My friend of childhood was Ukrainian according to us, but Jewish according to you. Her Jewish mom was my moms friend and our grandparents living in a different town were close friends. My cousin married a Jewish woman, so my nephews are half Jewish. That's how Ukraine is.
Spot on Lecture! Well done Rabbi. The information provided is 100% correct!
Thank you! I'm glad that you enjoyed the lecture
Zelensky is married to a non-Jew and his children are baptized. Match 28, 2019 Times of Israel article for more info.
Children are never baptized but believers only but are now dedicated into some denomination. He that believes and is baptized will be saved Mark 16:16. ua-cam.com/video/JzhwgUFX9CI/v-deo.html
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With this war, the weakened Europe will be Muslim; USA, Communist. Zelensky is a sign for another destruction of the Jews to come.
His wife is Jewish but zelensky is not l dont want to talk zelensky of a kind of a thief he stole the truth from dying woman whom her name too was zelensky the real ask yourself where did this guy gets the name zelensky from and meeting this woman who was the real daughter of zelensky do the math
Love the pictures. Excellent presentation
It looks like the Jew in the statue is doing the prakti breathing technique! Why oh why can't you see? Your surety has blinded you on this my friend!
Dr. Abramson please consider a deeper dive into this difficult material. I appreciate your scholarship, and perspective, more light on the human spiritual aspects of these events please. Why did the horrors occur?
Have a look at these books: henryabramson.com/recommended-reading/
One has to view all of this with quite a bit of humor, as quite obviously it is very humorous.
Not for people who are suffering.
Thank you. Really engrossing topic and delivery.
I'm glad that you enjoyed the lecture!
Jews were allowed to live there but not eligible for knighthood and landownership but were allowed renting land from the knights and it was called arrende, a Swedish word. The land was originally ruled by the Swedish not counting Attila’s era.
Very interesting snd revealing....thank you.🎹😊
You are welcome
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Essential viewing for anyone wanting to understand the Jewish question historically and in contemporary Ukraine. This video has provided answers to questions I had ever since visiting Israel in 1980 where I first learnt that someone I regarded a Ukrainian hero, Khmelnytsky, was in fact regarded as a villain and antisemite by Jews. Henry takes an objective view of Jewish history in Ukraine with particular emphasis on context.
Incredibly enlightening.
Bravo sir, you helped explain the truths of the situation.
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wonderful. Well done, good lecturer, maps and art are super as well.
Many thanks!
i wish I had you as a history teacher when i was in school...
What about Svyetislav? Why did you skip that part of history?
Because it was not relevant.
Goodness, this was the highlight of my day. 💜🇺🇦✡️
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You should check the channel of an American journalist in Ukraine, Gonzola Lira
Thank you for this interesting talk.
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Always very interesting !!
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Thank you!
My friend you are missing very important historical facts and when you talk about 2ww out of respect for slotted people by Bandera boys you should say fare more and in grate details. Respect builds respect omissions build miss understandings and future problems which no-one wants.
Those who lack respect should not make comments about respect.
Closest Geeman dialects that resemble Yiddish are Bavarian and Austrian...so it is not the Rheinland that the Jews migrated from but from more southernly areas along the Danube.
As I am listening I am thinking of an interesting book I picked up a few years ago in Milan, Written by Mario Costa Cardol, called ULTIMO ZAR-PRIMO OLOCAUSTO,
Panoramica storica dei personaggi che hanno segnato l'evolversi ndei fatti che sono culminati con il primo sterminio degli ebrei del XX secolo.
'Historical overview of the characters who marked the evolution of the events that culminated with the first extermination of the Jews of the twentieth century.'
A very interesting book, though it was a hard read in Italian.
At timeline 31:06 I am concerned of his down playing of the "clearly has a small element, some scholars estimate 10-15%" that is not a small amount if even only 5% are the main officer class. Then a small scattering of hardliners dispersed amongst the NCO's and it is something to worry about.
The other problem I have with this, and I fully understand that this video concerns as titled Ukraine and its Jews, The Neo-Nazi inclinations are directed towards the ethnic Russians, if one watches for example the 2018 Ukraine: On patrol with the far-right National Militia - BBC Newsnight report you can clearly see this.
I certainly believe that Zelenskyy had the best intentions when he came to power and those who voted for him believed in his words when he said he would stop the war in Dondas, however there were and are forces that he just could not and can not control, who seem to be hell bent of the destruction on the either side, and a vast majority of innocent civilians who really just want peace and care little about who is running the show.
This has been from day one (even prior to 2014) a proxy war!
The killing needs to end, before the insanity drags us all to (sorry for the use of this word it may not be fitting to all) hell.
Peace and Respect.
Thanks for your comment. I believe the Russian disinformation machine focuses attention on some of the negative aspects of the Ukrainian defense in order to distract from the atrocities that the Russian offense has committed on Ukrainian soil.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Thankyou for taking the time to read and reply, It is often said that the first victim in war is truth, Being an Englishman in the UK, though I did live in Italy for 13 years, I have not received any of this Russian disinformation, I have been watching the world situation develop over the last few decays, through as many windows as possible, one may not always agree with the views of others, but it would be foolish not to try to understand why such views are held.
It does concern me that dialog for peace has become the last resort, when it always should be the first, second and third options and escalation the last.
The greatest victims in all this are the truly innocent, those who just want to live in peace. I hope that one day soon those who support war take time in solemn self-reflection, and see that before we can obtain just and fair judgement we must first obtain peace and the calm headiness to judge all who have both committed evil and the those who are responsible for fuelling it.
Russian disinformation works in many different ways and through journalists and academia. This is particularly true of France and Italy, where I have many friends. You raise similar points to them, and I can only surmise that this is ingested through TV and other media. Certainly. I witnessed this myself in May when on a holiday to Italy. It's not something you'll see in the UK on mainstream TV
@@petershutak5573 I live in the UK,. but also lived in Italy for 13 years, and even though Silvio, who I was not a big fan of, Had control over both State and private TV, and he had blocked the likes of Beppe Grillo the ability to have an open civilized discussion on matter was common place, and the amount of dumb speculation and blind following of the media was rather non existent, on returning to the UK in 2010 I noted just how lacking in critical though most Brits are in fact, a rather sad reflect on things.
You seem to think that any point of view that differs from your own, which I am imagine is only based on the latest sound bite from the likes of the BBC
I suggest a little less surmising and a bit mire researching, the BBC has continuity checks, I like to do that with the news, going back and watching the old reports, I have a rather interesting playlist, you will have to scroll all the way down, it is call AZOV, some old BBC, ITV and other Mainstream media there, reports that the seem to have forgotten strangely.
When people stop thinking critically that is when jack boot start marching and we know where that leads, I also have a video "Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity" which seem some how applicable to all this, I would suggest that you watch it and the discus it with the friend you mentioned.
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure
Thank you, sir. Great job! 👏
Thank you too!
The Khazarian Jews were chased out of Ukraine by the Mongol Horde. Jewish populations made an appearance again in the 19th century before they were exiled or re-educated by Tsar Alexander II, III and Tsar Nicholas. Lviv was a polish city, and since Poland was outside of the Russian empire the Jews sought refuge there. Ukraine was never formally Jewish, only during the time of the Khazarian Kingdom, and this was from Kiev westwards to the border of Russia.
This is why Victoria Nuland hates the Russians with a burning passion. Her grandfather was Exiled from 'Ukraine' by the Tsars and was highly abusive to his son. The result was a broken man, and Mrs Nuland saw this in her father.
Not really.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Yes really, Tsar Nicholas was known for his pro Russian policies which involved re-education of poles from catholic into orthodoxy and likewise for Judaism. It takes a simple google search. If you are interested in the Khazarian Kingdom I suggest you look into that too, it was the largest Jewish kingdom ever to exist, before the Mongol horde destroyed it.
I must admit that I too am convinced that the KHAZARIAN KHAGAN elected to convert to Judaism and it would seem that many of his "elite" people did likewise...by the mid 850s CE the KHAZARS occupied western Ukraine and KYEVV was their biggest thriving City .....Prince VLADIMIR THE RUS took occupation of the City in mid 950s and it became KIEV...he chose to convert to the Orthodox Christian Church of Byzantium/Greek and later when the people of the RUS kingdom of NOVGORAD became Orthodox Christian their traditions differed causing a schism and antagonism towards each other. I understand to this day both these schools of Faith are still antagonistic towards each other and may be part of the Ukrainian / Russian problem to this day.....the Jewish people are still around whether "Ashkenazi" or "Sephardie" or "Mizrachi" or ISRAELITE ....BARUCH HASHEM ✡️ 🕎
The MONGOL HORDE invaded Ukraine from the 1200s and did not succeed in penetrating the RUS territories so the diverse influences in the UKRAINE territories of Early Byzantium - Greek and Roman / KHAZARS / MONGOLS / TURKIC developed into a very different "personality" compared with what would become the RUSSIAN NATION.
Amazing lecture. Dr Abramson, you say that Lithuania is your homeland. Would you please do a similar lecture on the Lithuanian Jews?
I can’t believe what I am hearing. I am of Slavic nations that was always friendly, actually very friendly, towards Jewish people, but I am sorry this a very new interpretation of history.
I don't think you understand the lecture. Try the subtitles.
Thanks for the pre Maidan history.
Glad you found it useful
Impressive synthesis of swastika and menora in this Jewish/Ukrainian monument. Now I begin to understand the intellectual origin of the russophobia in the Ukrainian regime.
Tryzub (trident). Where do you see a swastika?
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Trident with "handles". Appears to be an inspiration to the Azov rune.
Absolutely crazy that everybody considers themselves "the chosen people". This is anti-semitic in itself, to feel superior on racial basis. As we can see at Zelensky and Nethamyahu, that Jews are not immune to this, either.
Thank you so much, it's crucial to enlighten that kind of difficult topics connected with Ukraine. It would be interesting to hear your vision about Ukrainian nationalists and Jewish people during 20th century.
The lecture helps to understand why the Azov Battalion in Mariupol were awarded Heroes of Ukraine recognition by a Jewish President of Ukraine, and why they actually seem to deserve it.
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@@DPtheOG They don't deserve it for hiding behind civilians. Cowards fight like pigs.
@@DPtheOG But they denied Zelenskyy the military salute (see Denys Prokopenko, an ethnic Finn from Finnland, the Commander of the Azov Regiment). Allegedly Zelenskyj is pro-Russian. And that happened on March 19, 2022. And I don't know, what was really the reason? Is Zelenskyy now pro-Russian, or is he just Jewish?
@@DPtheOG Don't be fooled. The Azov nationalists openly admit they kill for fun. Those thugs deserve nothing except what the Russians have in mind for them if captured. The Gulags perhaps.
"Delivered as the Guthaner Lecture of Congregation Beth Am, Los Altos CA, on April 24, 2002." Must be 2022.
That was extremely Interesting!
Great! I am glad that you enjoyed the class.
You mentioned Kaganovitch holodomor man. The word kagan is turkish and the Khazarian leader was wearing that title.
just a matter of time somebody will claim Abraham or Sara was an Anglo-Saxon.
Relevance please
@@HenryAbramsonPhD LOL, there is always an audience. God bless you for encouraging the homeless EUrojew.
Khazarians are not Semitic
Kazaraians are white.
He speaks German too, and much better then other three languages, some people (ironically) point.
It pays to be on the winning side!🤺
Thank you for sharing another wonderful lecture! Sorry the Q&A with the Rabbi at the end wasn't included. Slava Ukraini! 👍🇺🇦
Here's the link to the longer version, with the Rabbi's introduction and the Q & A. vimeo.com/703011835/639c1b286e?
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Replayed the entire vid. Definitely worth rewatching! Especially enjoyed the Q&A and your dad jokes LOL! Thank you again! 👍🇺🇦
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Great job doing justice to a very large and nuanced topic in such a brief amount of time. In *Russian Jews Between the Reds and the Whites, 1917 - 1920*, author
Oleg Budnitskii argues that the 19th and early 20th century pogroms that took place in the area of the Russian Empire that is now Ukraine were not "actions" carried out on orders from the tsarist government, as popular imagination would have it, but rather were a local phenomenon that the government either tolerated or was simply unable to control. Pogroms, he said, undermined the tsar's ability to rule over many diverse ethnic groups. Does this jibe with your research, or does it describe things in a way that gives too much credit to the tsars?
I mean the tsarist forces were definitely against the Jews and we have reason to believe the pogroms were not grassroots. When the revolution hit Kiev in 1905, one of the main demand of the socialist revolutionaries was “to the end the shameful persecution of Jews”. This was the voice of the workers who formed the majority of the urban population.
You said "Jews" - Oh my goodness!
Rav Abramson would you mind being more and more certain that life is far too complicated for humankind, but even far more so over Jews... ?
Interesting indeed.
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Ukrainians share the "don't tread on me" fervor with Americans, this is true. It comes from a commonality in being on the beating end of an oligarchy, feudal lordship, and a corporate racket. I guess I didn't understand where the speaker was relating about how the great 33 genocide was at the hand of a Jew, but failed to bring up that the Communists in the Kremlin were Jews, and this detail often gets glossed over in American history books too - the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Vatican have pogromed Ukraine while the Jews have played the middle man - the Ukrainians themselves haven't exactly had a fair shake by anyone in a very long time, which is another commonality with Americans.
There is a concept called the greater Israel project that seems to keep showing glimmers of itself - that the banks of a river in Ukraine will be the Constantinople of the Belt and Road Project that will have a North - South artery no doubt on the European plane.
I was hoping the speaker would go deeper into the Khazar connection with Ukraine - lot to unpack there, considering it delves into the concept of crypto Jews and crypto Christians.
I don't agree with much of your post, but I hope you found the video useful.
The first composition of the Council of People's Communist Commissars had 16 members. Only Leon Trotsky was a Jew. Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, and literally every Soviet leader in the Kremlin was a communist of pure Christian blood. I don’t care but its obviously important to you.
Thank you for your great presentation, which confirms a lot.
You are welcome.
Before Germany, Ashkenaz was first associated with the Scythia (modern day Ukraine and Southern Russia) and scythian culture, and from the 11th century onwards with Germany. What is interesting, is that The Assyrian term for the Scythians was Askuzai/Ishkuzai. Ashkenaz was the grandson of Japheth who among historians, is known as the ancestor of the Turks, Khazars, Chinese, Mongols, and Slavs. There are also four villages whose names resemble “Ashkenaz” in northeastern turkey.
“İşkenaz, Eşkenez, Aşhanas, and Aschuz. And I believe places were named after peopel, and then people acquired the names of those places for themselves .Which also makes sense because Noah’s ark docked in Turkey. And Since Judaism is a monotheistic religion, It explains why Jews are a very diverse people like Christians and Muslims. Taking these facts into consideration I believe The term “Ashkenazi Jew” came about once the people who converted to Judaism and became Jews, migrated from Ukraine/Russia migrated westward to Germany, in order to pay homage to their ancestor Ashkenaz and to distinguished by other jews. That also would explain why Yiddish retained its Slavic vocabulary before adopting Germanic words. There’s just so much connecting here that I doubt it’s just a coincidence.
תודה על ההרצאה המסקרנת. למרות שאני יליד ברה"מ שחי בישראל ומכיר את ההיסטוריה של יהדות רוסיה, אוקראינה, בלארוס.
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בבקשה!
I have a feeling this will be a sad story, just like Poland, Belarus and their Jews.
Finnish jews fought against the soviet union like any other finn. A couple of them got awarded the german cross for bravery
So, Jews were nazists . Brilliant
Finland has always been very good to Jews I love Finland
Stop saying lived among ukranians when much of the circle covers Russia, Hungary, Galicia. They lived among all those people.
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Praying for Israel and for the peace of Jerusalem.
Me too.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Because of this war, Islam will take over Europe.
End the occupation.
Because he was not a nazi or even German collaborator. You are a scholar. Get it right.
Thanks for the video.
I was born in Soviet Union in the 80s and my father was a refusenik. We made Aliyah to Israel in 87, but we have spoken Russian in my parents’ house. I have ancestry from Ukrainian and Belarusian Jewry. On my father’s side, I have merchants of First Guild, who were exempt from living in the Pale of Settlement. On my mother’s side, a cantonist. I bear no special love for Russia, be it czarist or communist. However, I want to emphasize that I have even less love for Ukraine.
All the things you said about modern Ukrainians being “welcoming” towards Jews (who had lived there for centuries) is as applicable to modern Russians. However, if we are honest about history, Jews suffered much greatly from petty antisemitism from Ukrainians rather than the Slavs living in what constitutes contemporary Russia. This is just a fact. I am discounting the czarist and Orthodox Church anti-Jewish hatred, because it is equally applicable to both Russian and Ukrainian legacy.
After extremely brutally shedding the blood of millions of innocent Jews, it is no wonder that Ukrainians nowadays are “more accepting” of Jews. There aren’t many left there either way! However, I have never heard of any official Ukrainian government recognition and apology for Jewish genocide throughout the centuries from modern Ukrainian government. Babiy Yar is for “both Jews and non-Jews.”
The Ukrainian government considers itself as an inheritor of Bandera’s legacy. Reconciling the evils perpetrated by Ukrainian people against Jews is the only reasonable way to being the process of rapprochement. I haven’t seen it.
As to “only 5%” are neo-N@zi” - you left out the fact that they have an outsized influence on the political process. They have intimidated members of the Rada. Also, the entire apparatus of Ukrainian police is in their hands.
Please see videos of regular Mariupol citizens testifying to brutal treatment by Ukrainian forces, particularly by the Azov radicals. They are not hard to find.
These people are literally Nazi worshippers and I urge you to investigate this more thoroughly. A few generations of such propaganda is not something to ignore, for present or future. Thanks again.
Finally!
I am grateful for your detailed answer. It gives me other perspectives where to check and I will because if your descriptions. It is so much those exchanges that are needed over any media. But simply are missing.
I am not sure if you are a misinformed Jew or a Russian bot. In case you are a real person I will just mention a couple things. It is definitely a problem that almost nobody in Ukraine realizes that a number of Ukrainians during WW2 ran around killing Jews. Soviet Union heavily pushed antisemitism onto its citizens. Then nazis showed up. Its a bad recipe. A number of Ukrainians during WW2 became polizei and helped nazis kill Ukrainians, not just Jews. If Ukraine remains free, the truth will come out. There are a number of us who know it already. It is much more important that there is no animosity between ethnic Ukrainians and Jews today. Try not to create it with your attitude. Dont push hate forward.
One more thing, the Azov regiment has a Jewish division, complete with a mobile synagogue and all.
@@maryfinn3663 Go away and stop spreading your fake BS about "Azov mobile synagogue" and other nonsense.
Why do you use the Latin "latifundium" for large polish estates? The proper name is "folwark".
You are wrong sir. Folwark refers exclusively to the farming or agrarian estate while latifundia is a broader term meaning just a large land hold. In Poland Folwarks where usually parts of larger latifundia.
"Folwark" is a german loan word. Not really polish.
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I've only gotten through 3 minutes and what you've said is factually incorrect with respect the Hungarian Jews had a national identity before this see neolong Judaism . Your misrepresent. Rest is pretty good. Few other minor issues but overwell solid
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I'm glad that you found at least some of the video useful.
It’s in Ukranian language because a) in northwestern ukraine. B) it not in a major city,Lviv excluded. In the not too distant past you’d be hard pressed to hear ANY Ukranian spoken in Odessa,Kharkiv,Donetsk and even Kiev. In the villages there was plenty though
True, under Soviet rule
@@HenryAbramsonPhD true distinction.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD but actually. The soviets pushed Ukranization and also mandated Ukranian learning in school. And even post Soviet Rule well into 2000 you'd be hard pressed to hear Ukranian spoken. The amount of books Soviets published in Ukranian just for Ukraine is astronomical.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD are you sure you are a scholar ? Very uneducated remark
God bless and help the Jewish people of Ukraine, as a Christian I respect our older brother's, may God destroy their enemies. Love from Ireland! When I was a kid my family would go to Donegal the Gaeltacht, our neighbor was Isaac, an old man Jewish ,he couldn't speak English well, his family came Ukraine sometime in the 19th century, he taught me my own language Gaelic and myths of my people, God bless and keep him in heaven forever, may his grave be kept forever with affection. And when the world ends may the most high God give him back to my people. T
Watch Disney's Johnny Tremain to understand why Americans value the 2nd Amendment...and the Don't Tread On Me idea.
we know from Sozhenitsyn thanks.
Zelensky was voted in as President of Ukraine on a platform of seeking peace in Donbass and a re-set with Russia, BUT once in Government, Zelensky was threatened with death by the AZOV Battalions if he proceeded with his Election Platform , and thus turned away from his stated promises and goals
What a bunch of nonsense.
It nice to see how true Ashkenazi jew look like
Vladimir I’d of Kiev Rus, not of Ukraine. I don’t understand why people change history. The father of the Great Duke Vladimir (not Vlodymir) was Svjetislav.
Vladimir=Volodymyr.
Ukraine is Kyivan Rus.
@@ivan162 no
@@stetelba316 Yes.
32:55 It would be interesting in the pole "...would not accept Jews as fellow citizens" in Ukraine to see the % of Russians/Soviets/Empire mongers in this 5%. I assume that Ukrainian citizens with Russian roots make up most of this 5% of answers to reject Jews. Russians are well known for multiple systematic genocides committed all over their empire against dozens of non-Russian nationalities during Tsardom, Soviet, and Post-Soviet Russia - segregating and repressing by the national signature is the trademark Russian empire state policy and the mentality continuously built in by the Russian government to its title, Russian nation for centuries.
You don't say hi much anymore,have I offended you?
Sorry, just too busy with some noxious commenters.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Thank you Henry always love your videos
Greetings from Ukraine. ברכות מהפצצת השחורים ממזרח אוקראינה. Broohot. Broohot.
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What is there to congratulate when a human being is being killed? Are you a racist?
@@ejchakaodza why racist ? where people killed ? are you unsober?
that russian flag ship is now at the bottom of the sea
@Henry Abramson
Recently I discovered that I'm half Jewish... I was adopted as a child, and as far as I can work out my biological father was a German Ashkenazi Jew who left Germany, likely before or during the war. I know nothing about him other than I was told his name was Michael Stein and his family ran a store in Capel street in Dublin. Now I'm not religious at all so its more of just an interesting historical find on my part. I have no intention of suddenly finding my Jewish roots and visiting the wailing wall or anything.
But its interesting because I'm Irish and the number of Jews in Ireland is very small. I think less than 1500 in the 2016 census and likely less by now. A Jew meeting up with a catholic woman and having an illegitimate child is rare for both communities too. And this is another thing I always wondered about. Ireland is not particularly known for anti-Semitism, or to be honest even knowledge of Judaism... So I have no idea WHY there are so few Jews in Ireland. Or is this wishful thinking on my part and there is some dark reason Jews historically avoided Ireland?
So... Zelenski is supposed to be Joseph Banderas follower, right ⁉️🙄
I think you mean Stepan, not Joseph, and no.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Yes, thank you for correcting my mistake. It's Stepan Banderas ⁉️🙄
How many Polish nobleman were Jewish ?
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No..they were middlemen. Tax collectors, bankers liquor store owners.
I am aware of zero
I stand open to correction but believe that Jacqueline Kennedy's sister married into a Polish Jewish family of "aristocrats" ?
I just discovered most of the big castles especially the one near the train parked full of gold were pretty well owned by Jewish nobility families in Poland.
Grate lekturę ..they dont teaching at schools ..very sad …..how diferent this would be if histry were teaching historiens not a politicsians ???????
We try.
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Bandera wasn't a Nazi collaborator, but a prisoners of a Nazi concentration camp.
He was both.
THE GOD'S plan is miraculous so that pogrom happened nation would care Jews as much as their own. THE GOD may bless President Zelenskyy with wise heart and understanding of all GOD'S will. Amen.
Chinese lost 40 million people, Russian lost 60 million in war against fascist Nazi or Japan. Chinese have friendly relationship with Japanese but the line is drawn against fascist militarist. Israel can be friendly Germany but against Nazi I think passing the line cannot be justified. Nazi party is no football club and have been proven even now.
No football club indeed
Russians did not lose 60 million. In the Soviet Union Ukraine lost the highest percent if its population due to nazi invasion.
Not very objective and neutral - not good
I somehow cannot believe that Ukrainians are so welcoming to Jews now ( of course young generation of inteligencia has its different outlook) , but I worry maybe it has something to do with pro American image ...recently Chrystia Freeland and other politician in Canada were doing standing ovations to Ukrainian veteran who was fighting on the side of Germans in WWII which is a shame...
It's a complex history, with general coexistence punctuated by periods of great violence.
I wonder if any of those giving a standing ovation to that guy were Jewish
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FYI, 12:47 "collaborator." Let's see why Ukrainians and Jews in Ukraine who learned history, not Russian propaganda, respect Bandera. Stepan Bandera had contacts, but no agreements, like UK, USA, Poland, or, especially, the true collaborator and German Nazi ally from 1939 to 1941(the Mollotov-Ribbentrop secret agreement), Red Russia, remember Germany and Russia as allies by coordinated attacking Poland started WWII in September 1939. Bandera had contacts with the German military intelligence only, not Nazi Gestapo or SS, before 1941, and he explicitly pushed the independent Ukraine narrative to Germans; Germans rejected Bandera's ideas about independent Ukraine, so zero agreement on this topic was reached between Germany and OUN Bandera, moreover when Bandera declared Ukraine independence Nazi Germans arrested and sent him to their Sachsenhausen concentration camp, so for most of WWII, Bandera was a political prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp. Moreover, two of Bandera's brothers were sent to the Nazi camp, too, and they were murdered there; Russians executed Bandera's father, and all Bandera's sisters were sent by Russians to Soviet GULag concentration camps. If you want to mention the true Nazi collaborator, mention Ukrainian Melnyk, not Bandera. In your case, it seems you follow Russian propaganda and don't see any differences between two different Ukrainian nationalist groups like OUN Melnyk and OUN Bandera. OUN Melnyk was the smallest part of the Ukrainian independent or nationalist movement, and exactly OUN Melnyk collaborated with the Nazis; OUN Bandera was the most significant group and fought against German Nazis, Russian Commies, and other invaders for a free and independent multinational Ukraine. FYI, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UIA) had as a core mainly of OUN Bandera. A lot of Jews, Russians, Kazakhs, Belorussians, etc., fought against Nazis and Commies in UIA, accepting OUN Bandera's independent Ukraine objective. Don't mix OUN Melnyk, who collaborated with Nazi Germans, and OUN Bandera, the last one who fought for Ukraine's independence against Russians, Germans, Hungarian, Italian, Romanian, and other occupiers!
Why don’t you talk about atrocities jewish committed in Europe and middle east ?
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Most Rabis I know are very funny and very pleasant to listen too, though I am not jew, I like every bit of what is being a jew. I am Ethiopian, lived in Ukraine for six years from 1984 to 1990, I have earned my degree in engineering from Polytechnic, the Jewish memorial Babyn Yar was in my neighborhood called Porhomenko, were very closed to my building at Dovnar Zapolskovo St, I know Ukrainian well, so I don't buy into the popular narrative what is become fashionable today that "everything Ukraine is divine, everything Russian is evil" , during my very long study years in Ukraine, the best friend I came to know was 68 year old Jewish grandma who used to work as cashier in one the pharmacies of my neighborhood , who always loved to talk to abut her life, her son who has immigrated to USA, then invited by Emperor Haileselassie of Ethiopia to hold professorship at the university in Addis Abeba, and other challenges of her life whenever I visited her , because II was very young, just 19 she used to worry about me a lot like my well being, whether I was properly fed, or whether I felt home sick , or being treated well by locals , however She always used to say to me that I should never trust Ukrainians. Years passed , my Russian improved, and I was managed to integrate quickly into the society, made good friends without applying any preference or filter on purpose, however accidentally all my natural, outstanding friends happen to be Russians, not Ukrainians. I think, based om my empirical past in Ukraine, I would say this Rabi is trying to sell the Ukrainian identity that I am not familiar with.
You did not live in Ukraine. You lived in prison called USSR. Free people act differently.
@@maryfinn3663 People are people everywhere
Shhh - Don't mention the Roma .
This one is kind of stupid.
Would be good if you separated the history of Jews in Ukraine in contrast to Zionist/Bandera nazis
Discussed in the video.
How about the Russian Jews
Fine people.
Shalom Alaykem sir,
do you believe Muhammad (PBUH) as a prophet or messenger of Elohim?
Off courese NO,becouse Muhammed PBUH had forbidden interest.
@@newbornphoenix3077 It also forbidden in Torah (Exodus 22:25-27, Leviticus 25:36-37, and Deuteronomy 23:20-21.).
but wait a minute, who the hell you are dude? I didn't ask you anything.
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You talk so much in circle
Perhaps if the talk were in your language rather than English it would make more sense to you.
Its because he is covering , the topic !! Speaking in "0"!!
Pogrom
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Ukrainian Democratic
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Really? Is that why Zelensky cancelled elections? This thread is hilarious
Who where ''The Bolchevik '' at this time???
I don't know, but today it is Putin.
Lenin, Trocky... and so on accidentally were Jewish, there is your answer...
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Incorrect. Lenin was not. Not one Soviet leader was one.
@@baruasafi5880
No, that is a conspiracy nut theory that has been debunked.
@@jamesr8584 majority of Jewish leaders were Jewish anti Christian
Jew peopel don't have own country,,