Honestly looking at their ships, their suits, etc, this was not an invasion army. This looks more like the aliens were like, a mining survey team. They had no ranged weapons, etc. They were likely shooting blasting charges. The tech is just that far advanced the equivalent of a Cat Backhoe is the U.S.S. Missouri in terms of offensive capability.
@@jamessmall6499 I couldn’t have said it better myself that’s why they were trying to call home to bring the Calvary and the actual troops this is a light security.. the fact the dude who posted this didn’t get this is hilarious and shows his low level of intelligence.
Did that to my ex. All it cost me was a 12 pack. She ran off with two n snuck off while i was at work and aborted our kid. Best payback i ever did. Her mother was 10x better 🤣
@@corkingcoggo8375 Most soldiers operate with the expectation they don't have the full picture. I don't think many soldiers would disobey, or even hesitate to execute, a command given during a combat situation where everything is on the line. Orders given when its quieter, maybe.
@@SendarSlayer while I do agree with you there, these naval officers are now trained to question the captian if they believe something is being done that could harm the ship
Guys former Navy here from back in 2000. This is all Hollywood and is grossly misrepresented as far as military tacks and so forth. The ship has several departments that work together but have their own chain of command contained in each department. We all communicate the basics of a mission, now no one knows what's going on "having the full picture" outside of the top of the command ie the CO (Captian), XO (2nd in command), bridge staff if it's talked about in the bridge, Nav/Com (Navigation and communication), CWO (Chief Warrent officer) maybe and that's about it. The rest of us get a ship wide briefing outlining the over all mission. There's also the scuddle butt (rumor mill) that goes around the ship about what's going on but outside of those mentioned we don't know much. The only way communication and things like you see in thisovie to happen is if 70%+ of the crew is dead or wounded and even then it would be ordered to return to port rather then be lost if the option is there. Another thing "dropping the anchor" in the open ocean is the best way to lose your anchor before even touching the see bed. Not to mention the extreme amount damage to the windless (the system that controls the anchor), the ship and everything else on deck. Believe it or not that entire system for the anchor is manually operated by team of sailors below deck on top side. And that ship wouldn't be doing a G slide to get into gun range, it would nose dive into the water and probably rip off the bow if the anchor WAS to catch something. Sorry for the novel long explanation 😅 some movies are close to getting it right and some....well don't really come close. Lol hope some of this helped. 😅
Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayatul-Kursi.] [Surah al-Baqarah 2: 255]
Yeah and I all but guarantee that when this movie came out, there was at least one U.S Naval Academy midshipman in the theater wondering if that would work.
Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayatul-Kursi.] [Surah al-Baqarah 2: 255]
@@txgunguy2766 Kedge or kedging off. Not Keelhauling. It is for moving a ship/boat by bringing the anchor out by ships boats, dropping it, reeling it in, repeat. It is for moving a ship when the wind is not in your favor. Though with a small enough boat, I guess you might be able to drift it :P Keelhauling is when you tie a man to a rope and toss him over the bow, then bring him back up at the stern, bounding him off the barnacle encrusted hull the length of the keel. It comes from the Dutch words for the keel (which is just 'kiel') and to lift or to haul up (halen... Frisian aside, Dutch is about as close to English as it gets) and you get "kielhalen". Or in English, keelhaul. Add in the 'ing' suffix and you get the present participle (i.e. doing it right now) keelhauling. caveat: 'halen' also apparently can mean "fetch" or "catch". addendum: "keel hauling" by rights would be moving a keel around somewhere, as in hauling the keel around, presumably at a shipyard. Keelhauling as in the punishment is a single word.
People who think this movie had nothing to do with the board game couldn't be more wrong. The aliens thought they were about to score a direct hit on the Missouri, but it wasn't where they thought it would be. 😆
@@RamottthollThe explosives the aliens fire are literally the pegs from the board game and theres a whole scene where both sides are guess firing at each other at night hoping a shot lands. How is that not like the board game?
I find it hilarious that so many people in the comments fail to realise that the alien weapons are supposed to be the pins from the OG battleship game..
It's not every day that you find somebody on the internet comments sections that maintains a pulse and a body temp right around 98 degrees Thank you sir for the comment...
As unrealistic this movie is, it's still a nice one to watch, especially the old man saying, "They ain't gonna sink this battleship, no way." Battleships were built to take punishment but return it back. Although obsolete in modern Navies, the legacy of how they've played in the Pacific during WWII is unforgettable. Although not a battleship, the most famous ship in WWII I would say be the Aircraft Carrier The Enterprise. Although the original was scrapped because of fundings, the name will never be forgotten in the Navy.
Yeah it is fun to watch, but totally unrealistic. Even if the achor could touch bottom, (given the depth of the ocean around hawaii, i'd say it can't). Anchors are designed to keep a ship in place when stationary. And even then a ship the size of Missouri would use multiple. That is a 40.000 ton battleship. IRL she'd immediatly snap the chain and keep on going.
@@johanvanroekel8253 Yeah, the most unrealistic things about the video is anchor apart from that everything is believable, like aliens with guns having manual aiming system and ships capabale of creating impenetrable dome of energy, humans with ability to see long distances with binoculars etc all are believable just the anchor part is unrealistic
The New Jersey blew up a reinforced island. The Wisconsin annihilated a mountain over a splintered deck. The power of the Iowa’s speak for themselves. And as for the Yamato… they should have had more AA.
The mastery of engineering needed to design and build these boats truly makes them a work of art. Incredible machines operating on the worlds greatest stage: the open oceans.
There will always be a romance about battleships. They were the size of skyscrapers, punched so hard they induced localized earthquakes and did all that while moving almost 40 miles per hour.
Imho one of the funniest scenes in the movie. Hopper is so proud of himself for finally getting the meaning of "Art of War" - or so he thinks - only for his japanese battle buddy to dryly tell him "Nope. Not even close." 😂🤣😂
Battleships are useless in conditions of modern warfare. It's just big easy target for any modern weapon system. One good rocket can deal more damage on big distances. So you simply can't use this firepower for something else then bombarding some land targets.
This movie is Exactly what it's supposed to be fun. I'm a US navy veteran served on 2 carriers.Maybe it's not a 100% realistic.It's not supposed to be their aliens. Loved it
I don’t care how unrealistic this movie is I love it! People debating about the Tokyo drift of the battleship and explaining how in real life that just can’t happen are ridiculous. Have we had alien invaders trying to kill us in real life?
Science Fiction requires the suspension of disbelief. So I don't understand all the hate for this movie. I loved and enjoyed this movie but I guess that's mostly just me... "I Got This!" and "Calm down, okay? I'm gonna frigging save you!"...
@@matthewdudael1931 "Suspension of disbelief, sometimes called willing suspension of disbelief, is the intentional avoidance of critical thinking or logic in examining something unreal or impossible in reality, such as a work of speculative fiction, in order to believe it for the sake of enjoyment."
Modern have their bells and whistles, but there’s a level of satisfaction when a battleship delivers a full broadside and do what they do best: Deliver superior firepower.
It really could have been something if they nixed the secondary storyline with the hikers and dropped the ties to the board game.... movie has to be paid for somehow I guess...
Problem was that they released it at an very unfortunate time. Some Marvel Movie i already forgott, dropped at the same time and everybody just forgot about Battleship
@@andrefasching1332 yeah that's actually kinda sad. I watch this movie few times and never bored, since the conflict between human and aliens are pretty simple, and only happen inside a sphere Shield that around 300 km or more
They sunk because of the relentless fire they were subjected to.... Not because they were unsinkable.... They endured what none of the so called modern ships of today could even dream of ....... Take Bismarck, that thing was so strong despite relentless fire from basically the whole Royal navy, it refused to sink. Only when that destroyer HMS dorsetshire( sorry if i got that name wrong) launched torpedoes, only then did it go down.... Yamato, went down only because it was overwhelmed by the USAF.... Relentless torpedoing and dive bombing that thing..... Still refused to sink then sunk later. Hood on the other side was so unlucky.... Had weak deck armor and only needed a shell from Bismarck to pierce it and detonate the magazine.... Point is, nothing is too strong or too weak... It's just that fate seems to have a different destiny for all things...
@@sandeeppallapu it was scuttled by its crew of Bismarck... I read an article few years ago that a mechanic from bismarck claimed it was scuttled due to an order to put charges then abandon the ship. And i dont know if CV planes are covered by the USAF since those planes were from the CV of the USN
For all it's problems and idiocy, this is just a fun movie. You just have to let go of any sort of realistic ideas. And this scene, more than makes up for it. Getting to see the Missouri be badass again, and using a bunch of the original crew members... that's awesome.
I think the ending should've had the battleship sailing home with the jet fighters flying around it radioing back to the carrier telling the admiral there is a battleship out here and the admiral standing there in disbelief
No matter how flawed a movie, there are scenes that just stand out. This is one of them. This effectively demonstrated the awesome firepower of a battleship.
I remember seeing a pre release cut of this scene wherein at the moment he drops the anchor, one of the old sailors grabbed onto a stanchion and yelled out “it’s the okacroke slide boys! And blackbeards at the helm!” Then the anchor snapped taught. Loved it.
1:43 the USS Missouri is 270m, and that gap looks slightly less than 2 but we'll call it 550 for simplicity. The alien missiles took approximately 37 seconds to reach the ship, meaning they were moving at around 54kmph, or 29knots, meaning pretty much any modern military ship could easily outpace them.
The Missouri’s guns also have a range of over 20 miles so them getting within a few hundred meters and in alien tomahawk range is even stupider, they could’ve shelled the aliens from a different area code
Love how the Veteran said They are never sinking this battleship no way. That ship has faced and survive many battles ain't no way its going down by some aliens.
Battleships are built in a way that makes them virtually unsinkable by other battleships. The guns can only shell what is above the water, and during the Bismark vs the Royal Navy, 4 ships hammered the Bismark for hours at point blank and she didn't sink until some torpedoes from a destroyer hit it below the water line.
Say what anyone will about this movie i still remember being young when it came out and it was a fun movie, no one should have thought it was going to win awards but it was fun
The USS New Jersey was part of the 7th fleet during Viet Nam. Watching her fire all her guns broadside was impressive. The shockwave was more impressive. Hitting a bullseye from 25 miles even more impressive.
Same man, for me it's because it has good CGI and the story was pretty simple with a lot of action. I also love how it's not just typical "America vs aliens" it's combination from other country too that makes it look better
It's an entertaining movie I gotta say. I even enjoyed it myself. But it's just that. There're moments that are unrealistic and the most notable one for me, as a former sailor, is the one where they use the anchor to "drift" at sea. That's dumb. Even if it's a battle ship, the anchor chain is not immune to intense friction. If that anchor is dropped in that situation, not only would it fail miserably since the anchor chain will burn and snap or the gravity itself pulling the anchor block and decommissioning the entire windlass, there would also be a lot of factors to be considered. Even if by some miracle, the anchor chain didn't snap, is the anchor actually able to secure itself at the sea floor strong enough for the whole heavy battleship to "drift"? Worse case scenario the anchor wouldn't grab anything strong and instead of "drifting", the ship would still go forward and they still get hit by those alien Molotov. I can't blame people for thinking it's dumb even though it's an enjoyable movie.
3:40 One thing that I need to point out here is that how beautifully the armor of a battleship is illustrated in this scene. Remember earlier in the film what just a handful of those rounds did to the destroyers. Missouri practically shrugs off the hits with only the outer layers of turret 3 being blown off.
You have no idea what you are talking about. The turret is completely destroyed and clearly blows up from the inside, dislodging the guns. The other hits occur on areas of the ship that do NOT CARRY ANY ARMOR. Yes that is correct, the areas around the main gun turret, including everything that is hit in this clip, are not armored at all. The plating in this location is only 30mm thin, or just over an inch. That is nothing. The main armor belt is 307mm thick, but only covers the waterline. The main armor deck is 150mm thick, but is located one deck lower in the ship, just above the waterline, connecting to the main armor belt. Just google "Iowa class armor scheme" and you will see what I mean. With the exception of the gun turret, no armor was hit in this scene.
@@hisaddlethe armor of the Iowa class is rather average. It's not great or "crazy" at all. For the size of the ship and the time it was build, it is actually below average. Some comparisons: As mentioned in my other comment, the 48.000 ton standard displacement Iowa class had a main armor belt that was 307mm thick inclined at 19 degrees. The deck was 152mm with a 32-38mm bomb deck above it and a 16mm splinter deck. The French 37.000 ton Richelieu class had a 327mm belt inclined at 15 degrees plus a 170mm thick main deck plus a 40-50mm thick splinter deck. The British 36.000 ton King George V class featured a 375mm thick belt, contoured to the hull (so not completely vertical as often stated), and a 150mm thick main deck plud 32mm weather deck. The Italian 40.000 ton Littorio class had a 280+70mm thick belt armor inclined at 15 degrees, and a 150mm thick main armor deck plus 36mm weather deck. The German 41.000 ton Bismarck class featured a 320mm thick belt and a 120mm thick main armor deck plus 50mm weather deck. The French 26.000 ton Dunkerque class, the first of the modern fast battleships to be build and also by far the smallest one, featured a 225mm thin belt on Dunkerque and a 283mm thick belt on Strasbourg, inclined at 11 degrees, with a 125mm thick main deck and 40mm thick lower deck. The famous 69.000 ton Japanese Yamato class had a 410mm thick belt inclined at 20 degrees plus a 200mm thick main armor deck with a 50mm thick weather deck. It is important to remember that the Iowa class came a couple of years after all of the ships mentioned above, with none of the treaty restrictions, and with the exception of Yamato, the Iowa's were also far bigger and heavier than all of them. So yeah, pretty average across the board. And that includes the area/volume protected by armor, which was also pretty average. Now don't understand me wrong, the Iowa's were excellent battleship designs. And overall, they were THE BEST designs of the war, no questions there. But being the best overall does not mean they were the best in every single category, which is something many people tend to forget. And protection (armor and torpedo protection) was something that was not meaningfully improved in the Iowa's compared to the previous South Dakota and North Carolina classes, which were 12.000 tons lighter than the Iowa's (25% lighter).
@@xxnightdriverxx9576 and you clearly don’t pay enough attention! When the shells hit, their explosions snapped off the three barrels and partially crumpled the barrette but nothing below the deck was damaged. Whereas with the destroyers earlier, just two shells caused a hull breech in Samson and a few more destroyed the JMSDF ship.
@@fionawimber1028 you are right that there wasn't a hull breach, but we literally see the turret explode from the inside, leaving behind a burning mess in follow up scenes. The entire turret blew up. The explosion also logically traveled down into the barbette, though it is clear that it was stopped somewhere before reaching the magazines. When one of the Iowa's suffered an explosion inside her number 2 turret during I think the Vietnam war, 70 people died. This here looks like a similar explosion.
The daring tactic is an old one dating from the says of sail. It's called anchoring on springs, to let you better orient your ship to bring your broadside in best position to engage te enemy, And a fundamental problem for naval gunners is that your ship and your opponent are moving in three dimensions simultaneously, In Age of Sail days, you were at the mercy of the gun captain of a cannon being ble to judge the exact moment to actually ire the gun with a hope of hitting the target, And the technique provided a more stable gun platform, dampening some of the possible movement that would throw the gun off target. A modern battleship was s floating artillery platform, whose sheer size and displacement offered far more stability that an Ship of the Line in the Age of Sail. And it could shoot much farther. The 16" guns had a possible range of 20 miles in WWII, with improvements in smokeless powder increasing the to 40 miles in later year, But the ship would be firing at targets it couldn't even see over the horizon. There are reasons why the battleship was likely obsolete as a surface combatant when WWII began, and the biggest service battleships performed was fire support for amphibious landings against identified shore installations that could be accurately targeted. Might hae to fire a few rounds to walk the fire into the correct place, but a major blockhouse or shore battery wasn't moving anywhere...
I would think by turning the ship that way your exposing more of the ship making a bigger target for the enemy and easier for them to hit u I would think by positioning bow first and firing bow guns would make your profile smaller and harder to hit if that makes sense
@@jaredharris1970 yes it would make you a smaller target but a broadside would absolutely destroy your enemy especially since battleships are designed to absorb a few hits. If you wanted to sink an enemy battleship then you would need a full broadside to do it.
Inland from Pointe Du Hoc on DDay. Special joint Army Navy Fire Control teams translated calls for fire from the Army system to Navy system. The 2nd Ranger battalion and the 116th Infantry were calling for fire from the Battleship Nevada targeting single German tanks. The Nevada fired rounds from its gun batteries for 80 continous hours. At one point the Captain orderef the ship closer to the beaches because smoke was obscuring the targets on the beach. Colonel Rudder of the 2nd Rangers made the remark. Today the Rangers love the Navy.
It is impractical to design ships with the fire power they can carry, and have all guns able to fire forward. And the front profile needs to be slim for speed/maneuverability. So a broadside brings the most guns to bear with a turreted design. With ships as large as battleships getting hit is inevitable. So they were designed to take hits and exchange fire. Modern warships tend to have less guns but forward turret mounted I believe.
That is a powerful scene I so enjoy watching every once in a while. The questioning of his orders at every turn, like the direction of the guns, the anchor, etc just takes away from the scene so much
The targeting and tracking analog computers on the Iowa class are still to this day the most accurate pieces of tech the US navy still has at its disposal. That's even with all the technological advancements we have developed. During its upgrades in the 80's those systems were not touched but enhanced to a insane degree. The Iowa's during Desert Storm 1 had a Spotter Drones and there's stories of the Iraq artillery surrendering to the drone because they knew that as soon as that thing was up in the air a 16 inch shell was only 40 seconds away.
Im a (not yet) naval engineer coming from a landlocked country (Austria) Seeing the Iowa for the first time gave me the same chills these guys must have had after seeing that alien thing unfold its weapons.
Those ships were meant to slug it out and who ever was able to put enough steel on target won. Plain and simple. During world war II they were the Titans of the sea. Everybody wanted one yet only a few could afford it. They were expensive and bulky and really hard to upgrade. But, they also were robust and extremely versatile. I got to see one up close while it was active as a kid. They were amazing machines who the crew absolutely loved.
And let's not forget this same vessel actually SERVED in 1991 during the invasion of Iraq, in Desert Storm. It even fired it's mains guns at some Iraqi Bunkers and artillery positions.
If you can suspend your belief this scene is amazing. If you focus too much on physics you know just how wrong it is. Ships of any size simply can't have the anchor go taught like that and not sustain severe damage, not unless they were specifically designed for it and reinforced to brunt the immense amount of stress that would place on the ship and the anchor itself. Which I think is impossible but I could be wrong. The other point of contention is the decision to get up close. Those guns have a severe amount of range on them, the kind of range that would have made the alien's method of attack wholly moot. Those charges are launched short distances. Those guns can be effective for miles and miles. The ship would have won without breaking a sweat.
I love this part. Never get tired of watching Mighty Mo fire her guns. Although there is one thing I don't get. Why doesn't he understand Art of War! His in the Military, you would think that's day 1 lecture!!!
This movie get a lot of stick But it was a fun romp with some cool sequences and some well done ideas. Will watch again. And they used *actual* Navy vets? Too cool.
@@jason9035 I know USS New Jersey she's one of the most greatest toughest strongest and the most mightiest Iowa Class Battleship in the history of the United States Navy World War 2, Korean War, Vietnam War, Lebanon War, and the Persian Gulf her battle won by rewarding 19 battle stars as a true American Warship in the world
Funny thing about Navy battles in the modern era, they end very quickly and actually have a hard time being draw out for more action. Battleships had to shell each other for hours to get a kill because their guns damage what's above the waterline rather than below it.
My grandad served on a battleship, he LOVED this movie so much because this is what he WANTED… battleships didn’t fight the battles they were made for after WW1
One of my all time favourite movies, I own it on Blu-ray, and have watched it countless times, and on Netflix also, I never get tired of it, and this scene is the biggest reason why!
The battleship armament is quite powerful. Just 1 shell from her 16" turrent is 2000lbs. I know this because the USS Wisconsin is docked in Norfolk VA next to Nauticus naval museum and hanging from the ceiling is a scale with a single 16" projectile on one side and a VW bug on the other.
The biggest suspension of disbelief in this movie isn’t anything to do with the aliens but that this scene even exists despite that the main guns of an Iowa class battleship like this could’ve shelled the aliens from over 20 miles away
@@benyseus6325 20miles is the range of the guns not how far I’m saying they should be, inferences are important Also if you think a forcefield that can be seen from space and encompassed Hawaii wasn’t bigger than 20 miles I got some bad news for you
@@achilles8804 the reason why they didnt was because they had a limited ammunition supply and couldnt afford to waste it. yes a battleships main gun has a range of 20 miles but that doesnt mean it can accurately _hit_ a target at 20 miles. on average with an experienced gunner, a battleships main gun was only around 32% accurate at _nine_ miles.
I saw this movie when it first came out (ALL the critics HATED it,so I decided to see it )I wasn’t expecting much,so I was pleasantly surprised to absolutely love this movie! The ONLY beef I have with it is that there is NO WAY IN H€££ that those pegs could take out that turret that easily!They were DESIGNED to take hits just as powerful as those pegs and keep on firing!😎😎😎
@@masterdynamo6457 Utter American Hater. All of the world’s top of the line battleships were designed to take direct hits from most of the main batteries on the current ships of the line (the Yamato Class being the sole exception because nobody knew what caliber the main guns were) .Now they could shoot up the upper superstructure badly,but during the kamikaze attacks, they only suffered a slight dent. Plus when they found the Bismarck, She Wasn’t as shot up as the British said. All evidence points to her being scuttled to keep Her from being captured!
@robertwall1419 I've never heard she was scuttled with the entire crew still on board. From everything I've seen on it they think a round managed to hit a powder mag after her rudder locked up.
@@robertwall1419 man, I'd have loved to have seen a video of mustache man if he found out his priced Bismarck had been captured. But even a video of him hearing it was scuttled would have been great.
Im suprised Aliens with spacefaring capabilities hasn't figured out missiles and yet uses advanced computers to predict where their unguided stick grenade looking things are gonna land.
This is what happens, when aliens travel 50 million lightyears to Earth using their advanced technology and then base their weapon systems on old Windows 8 without the latest patch.
love this scene but what always bothers me is that the ship magicly moved to the side of the alien ship. 2:38 its fully infront of the alien. and couple second later it moved to the complete side of it...
Bro, when they get hit by the whatever depth charge looking things, two turrets go “Kaboom” and yet the next scene, the battleship still has 2/3 turrets intact
This was the most intense part of the movie.. especially with them vets fighting together again arming the battleship that they armed at a younger age ..let's drop some lead on those mfs....chills ..legends
I’ve worked for the vets at VA hospitals & most of them are in their twilight years but to see these guys get up & fight again really does bring on the goosebumps. And yes, I know it’s only a movie!
@@patriciaengelsiepen9461 Wow thats amazing on working with the vets hats off to you and your hard work passion. And yes just a movie but just to imagine thier spirt to fight again is very powerful.
@@renerivera5096 yes, I see them every day, either wheeling around in their wheelchairs but more likely in hospital beds, particularly if they are WWII vets, & I think that if they were to see a movie like this particularly if they’re Navy vets, I bet you’d see a spark in their eyes even after all of this time.
@@patriciaengelsiepen9461 That's a huge possibility, that's a great idea. I am sure they would light up in a heart beat. Shoot I would try it. I just have a feeling if you do that they would feel honored .
I read Art of War in relation to my martial arts training on my masters recommendation. If you haven't read Art of War, the TL;DR is: "Creativity wins" and OMG it's so true! 😉
imagine having the technology to travel thru space for thousands of light years and you still have ballistic weapons with no targeting system.
Honestly looking at their ships, their suits, etc, this was not an invasion army. This looks more like the aliens were like, a mining survey team. They had no ranged weapons, etc. They were likely shooting blasting charges. The tech is just that far advanced the equivalent of a Cat Backhoe is the U.S.S. Missouri in terms of offensive capability.
That's why they called it Art of war bro
Cry.
once watch the film bro
@@jamessmall6499 I couldn’t have said it better myself that’s why they were trying to call home to bring the Calvary and the actual troops this is a light security.. the fact the dude who posted this didn’t get this is hilarious and shows his low level of intelligence.
"If she leaves you for another, there is always her mother."
-Sun Tzu Art of war
A+😎
and her younger sister , or both 🥳
@@rickydasudasin 💯
I...uh.. is that what art of war really means ..
Did that to my ex. All it cost me was a 12 pack. She ran off with two n snuck off while i was at work and aborted our kid. Best payback i ever did. Her mother was 10x better 🤣
"Let's drop some lead on those Mother--""FIRE"
no badassery can be more badass than this badassest line.
I second that and agree with you 💯
Even in the heart of heaven, angels can still feel fear? Diablo entering heaven d3
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And then seeing those big guns be let loose
In a work of science fiction, we see the real fighting spirit of the USN.
This is the most realistic movie I've ever seen. No CGI, no cheesy lines, no fake actors. Masterpiece.
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?😏
Even managed to invite our neighbors from the andromeda galaxy to use their own battleship!
Only watching the trailer doesn't count🤣🤣
Hyper realistic anchors
Yep, heaviest anchor ever. haha
The fact that the “amateurs” second guess the orders and the veterans go straight into the order without thinking makes this so much realistic.
i mean realistically thats what they should do, If an oder seems deranged, you have a right to speak up.
@@corkingcoggo8375 Most soldiers operate with the expectation they don't have the full picture. I don't think many soldiers would disobey, or even hesitate to execute, a command given during a combat situation where everything is on the line. Orders given when its quieter, maybe.
@@SendarSlayer while I do agree with you there, these naval officers are now trained to question the captian if they believe something is being done that could harm the ship
Guys former Navy here from back in 2000.
This is all Hollywood and is grossly misrepresented as far as military tacks and so forth.
The ship has several departments that work together but have their own chain of command contained in each department. We all communicate the basics of a mission, now no one knows what's going on "having the full picture" outside of the top of the command ie the CO (Captian), XO (2nd in command), bridge staff if it's talked about in the bridge, Nav/Com (Navigation and communication), CWO (Chief Warrent officer) maybe and that's about it. The rest of us get a ship wide briefing outlining the over all mission.
There's also the scuddle butt (rumor mill) that goes around the ship about what's going on but outside of those mentioned we don't know much.
The only way communication and things like you see in thisovie to happen is if 70%+ of the crew is dead or wounded and even then it would be ordered to return to port rather then be lost if the option is there.
Another thing "dropping the anchor" in the open ocean is the best way to lose your anchor before even touching the see bed. Not to mention the extreme amount damage to the windless (the system that controls the anchor), the ship and everything else on deck. Believe it or not that entire system for the anchor is manually operated by team of sailors below deck on top side. And that ship wouldn't be doing a G slide to get into gun range, it would nose dive into the water and probably rip off the bow if the anchor WAS to catch something.
Sorry for the novel long explanation 😅 some movies are close to getting it right and some....well don't really come close. Lol hope some of this helped. 😅
@@camelfilters3224 Knew the Gunnery Chief on the USS Missouri. He hates this movie for all those reasons.
"I want every available plane on this ship, in the air! Now!" Most sensible line in the entire movie.
Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayatul-Kursi.]
[Surah al-Baqarah 2: 255]
@@Battleevents What are you trying to accomplish by randomly quoting false prophets?
that wasnt a quote from any prophet. thats a verse in the quran describing the attributes of God@@jackr2287
@@jackr2287 No it isn't false'.
@@AstroNovelist54 Tell that to the severed aorta.
"But thats not what it means.. not even close"... best line in the movie
Lmao
What does it mean tho
@@secondaccounte1209 LOL.. ok.
yes, it's just a gun
Using the wrong formula and still getting the right answer lol
Drifting a battleship into a full broadside is the greatest thing in cinema
Yeah and I all but guarantee that when this movie came out, there was at least one U.S Naval Academy midshipman in the theater wondering if that would work.
Flying a tank is better.
Yeah so cool and awesome
Do you know the movie a animation movie where the train drift on ice that is epic too
@annoyedok321 A-Team. 👍
Say what you will about this movie, but they used genuine Japanese and American Veterans and freaking Tokyo Drifted a WW2 Battle Ship.
Masterpiece 🤌
Yeh but they also had Rihanna trying to act..
It's an actual centuries old naval combat maneuver known as "club hauling".
Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayatul-Kursi.]
[Surah al-Baqarah 2: 255]
@@Battleevents
If you say so.
@@txgunguy2766 Kedge or kedging off. Not Keelhauling. It is for moving a ship/boat by bringing the anchor out by ships boats, dropping it, reeling it in, repeat. It is for moving a ship when the wind is not in your favor. Though with a small enough boat, I guess you might be able to drift it :P
Keelhauling is when you tie a man to a rope and toss him over the bow, then bring him back up at the stern, bounding him off the barnacle encrusted hull the length of the keel. It comes from the Dutch words for the keel (which is just 'kiel') and to lift or to haul up (halen... Frisian aside, Dutch is about as close to English as it gets) and you get "kielhalen". Or in English, keelhaul. Add in the 'ing' suffix and you get the present participle (i.e. doing it right now) keelhauling.
caveat: 'halen' also apparently can mean "fetch" or "catch".
addendum: "keel hauling" by rights would be moving a keel around somewhere, as in hauling the keel around, presumably at a shipyard. Keelhauling as in the punishment is a single word.
No matter how advanced your technology is or how superior your weapon systems are, getting hit by a big boom boom tube still hurts.
lobbing unguided stick grenades in an arc.
Yes, very advanced technology. Much superior.
@@colonelthyran7755 They are an interstellar species bruh. Primitive concept ≠ Primitive technology
Stargate SG1 has entered the chat.
@@blackknight9156 exactly
A gun is a gun, it hurts shits and tear everything if it can
10 years later and I'm still getting goosebumps everytime I hear the Veteran claiming that there is no way that aliens sink their Battleship
so self-aggrandizing
Yes until today none of the battleship ever been sink by aliens.
i agree.. goosebumps everytime.
Me too but i trigger on " lets drop some lead on these motherfuckers "
Yeah, that was a great line.
People who think this movie had nothing to do with the board game couldn't be more wrong. The aliens thought they were about to score a direct hit on the Missouri, but it wasn't where they thought it would be. 😆
Still a better story than twilight.
1st i thought it was just a fun Dumb action movie.
but when i heard it was based on the board game im omg thats so bad XD
The more you watch, the more you realize it is very much like the game
The peg explosives only got 2 squares
@@RamottthollThe explosives the aliens fire are literally the pegs from the board game and theres a whole scene where both sides are guess firing at each other at night hoping a shot lands. How is that not like the board game?
I find it hilarious that so many people in the comments fail to realise that the alien weapons are supposed to be the pins from the OG battleship game..
Oooooooohhhhhh.
That is actually really funny now that I see it
It's not every day that you find somebody on the internet comments sections that maintains a pulse and a body temp right around 98 degrees
Thank you sir for the comment...
Dude, thats brilliant.
That is hilarious. People didn’t know that????
This final scene is EPIC! While the entire movie may have been average, this final scene made up for it 10 times over
yeah , so epic a few tons of that anchor turn the whole fucking ship like that lmao
@@fu_youtubeee At a point where the ocean is 15000 foot deep^^
@@fu_youtubeee Your name checks out.
@@fu_youtubeee 🤣🤣🤣so true
Average... i wouldn't go that far!
As unrealistic this movie is, it's still a nice one to watch, especially the old man saying, "They ain't gonna sink this battleship, no way."
Battleships were built to take punishment but return it back.
Although obsolete in modern Navies, the legacy of how they've played in the Pacific during WWII is unforgettable.
Although not a battleship, the most famous ship in WWII I would say be the Aircraft Carrier The Enterprise.
Although the original was scrapped because of fundings, the name will never be forgotten in the Navy.
Still going strong in Starfleet too.
After that anchor is dropped and that battle ship swings around....... Goosebumps!
Tokyo drift Battleship style
i have watched this movie more 10x i still get goosebumps.... it is a masterpiece 👌
Yeah it is fun to watch, but totally unrealistic. Even if the achor could touch bottom, (given the depth of the ocean around hawaii, i'd say it can't). Anchors are designed to keep a ship in place when stationary. And even then a ship the size of Missouri would use multiple. That is a 40.000 ton battleship. IRL she'd immediatly snap the chain and keep on going.
@@johanvanroekel8253 🤣 The anchor bit is unrealistic for you, but nothing about the aliens are? Anyway, it's just a movie mate.
@@johanvanroekel8253 Yeah, the most unrealistic things about the video is anchor apart from that everything is believable, like aliens with guns having manual aiming system and ships capabale of creating impenetrable dome of energy, humans with ability to see long distances with binoculars etc all are believable just the anchor part is unrealistic
Nothing is as magnificent as a Iowa Class Battleship.
Ageed
Yamato class was tho
@@danishkfd
And they are at the bottom of the sea.
Three Iowa's still floating.
@@JRotten i don't remember iowa actually facing off against 400 planes for 2 hours lol
The New Jersey blew up a reinforced island.
The Wisconsin annihilated a mountain over a splintered deck.
The power of the Iowa’s speak for themselves.
And as for the Yamato… they should have had more AA.
"lets drop some lead on that mother-" "FIRE!" gets me every time
The mastery of engineering needed to design and build these boats truly makes them a work of art. Incredible machines operating on the worlds greatest stage: the open oceans.
sur 6 people for run a battleship :D
I've always had some awe for huge boats navy or civilian. They are like independent cities
@@J.Wolf90 Ever been on a WW2 battleship?
@@hadmatter9240 no I havnt
@@hadmatter9240 I've toured and explored the Alabama. Both claustrophobic and awesome.
I don't care what people say about this movie, shallow, stupid, logic flaws... I love this movie and always will. Period.
amen. I recognize all the flaws and warts and still love it. a good friday night flick when I dont want to think and just want to be entertained.
People who say they love a movie even if its has all these flaws are the real gigachads.
I call a it a guilty pleasure.
Fkn love it enough to have it in my phone, just in case😂
There will always be a romance about battleships. They were the size of skyscrapers, punched so hard they induced localized earthquakes and did all that while moving almost 40 miles per hour.
Imho one of the funniest scenes in the movie. Hopper is so proud of himself for finally getting the meaning of "Art of War" - or so he thinks - only for his japanese battle buddy to dryly tell him "Nope. Not even close." 😂🤣😂
it's even funnier because Art of War is a Chinese text
@@thechineserussian true. lol
And Sun Tzu was Chinese
I am not a navy guy but more an army guy however, I respect the massive firepower that battleships have that they give me goosebumps
Look up the USS Texas. The Fat Electrician does a hilarious sotry on it.
Battleships are useless in conditions of modern warfare. It's just big easy target for any modern weapon system. One good rocket can deal more damage on big distances. So you simply can't use this firepower for something else then bombarding some land targets.
16 inch fifty caliber armor piercing with high explosive filler to be precise
As field artillery I can appreciate big boom devices
BuT iT's a Museum Battleship. How did they get the armaments and charges so quickly before they sailed out...
3:47 Beast: YOU ALL RIGHT
USS Missouri Veteran: they ain't gonna sink this Battleship no way
Hit it!!!!
Give ‘em everything you’ve got!
ถูกๆ 4:41
Having those veterans in this movie makes it even cooler.
This movie is Exactly what it's supposed to be fun. I'm a US navy veteran served on 2 carriers.Maybe it's not a 100% realistic.It's not supposed to be their aliens.
Loved it
Can you imagine getting back to your home and saying to your grandchildren that you brought down an alien spaceship? Such a good day for the veterans.
Os netos: vovô adoro sua histórias
I don’t care how unrealistic this movie is I love it! People debating about the Tokyo drift of the battleship and explaining how in real life that just can’t happen are ridiculous. Have we had alien invaders trying to kill us in real life?
Science Fiction requires the suspension of disbelief. So I don't understand all the hate for this movie. I loved and enjoyed this movie but I guess that's mostly just me... "I Got This!" and "Calm down, okay? I'm gonna frigging save you!"...
movies such as this require an actual lobotomy
I also love that movie i hope they make more
Suspension of "disbelief " ?
I enjoyed it too. Some people don't get it. It's a movie n not a documentary.
@@matthewdudael1931 "Suspension of disbelief, sometimes called willing suspension of disbelief, is the intentional avoidance of critical thinking or logic in examining something unreal or impossible in reality, such as a work of speculative fiction, in order to believe it for the sake of enjoyment."
The anchor handbrake turn is the moment the film gives into its own stupidity and becomes genuinely fun.
It's a genuine centuries old naval combat maneuver called "club hauling".
@@txgunguy2766 🙏🏼 then it’s even more fun!
Modern have their bells and whistles, but there’s a level of satisfaction when a battleship delivers a full broadside and do what they do best:
Deliver superior firepower.
This film is so underrated.
I love this simple Human vs Alien action.
It really could have been something if they nixed the secondary storyline with the hikers and dropped the ties to the board game.... movie has to be paid for somehow I guess...
Problem was that they released it at an very unfortunate time.
Some Marvel Movie i already forgott, dropped at the same time and everybody just forgot about Battleship
@@andrefasching1332 yeah that's actually kinda sad. I watch this movie few times and never bored, since the conflict between human and aliens are pretty simple, and only happen inside a sphere Shield that around 300 km or more
@@andrefasching1332 I think it was Avengers in 2012.
@@andrefasching1332 I guess that was "The Avengers". in 2012 when both avengers and battleship released.
They ain't going to sink this battleship, no way.
Yamato「That's right.」
Musashi「That's right.」
Bismarck「That's right.」
hms hood lol
@@smythers1981
Hood didn't have armor.
Add Tirpitz too
They sunk because of the relentless fire they were subjected to.... Not because they were unsinkable....
They endured what none of the so called modern ships of today could even dream of .......
Take Bismarck, that thing was so strong despite relentless fire from basically the whole Royal navy, it refused to sink.
Only when that destroyer HMS dorsetshire( sorry if i got that name wrong) launched torpedoes, only then did it go down....
Yamato, went down only because it was overwhelmed by the USAF.... Relentless torpedoing and dive bombing that thing..... Still refused to sink then sunk later.
Hood on the other side was so unlucky.... Had weak deck armor and only needed a shell from Bismarck to pierce it and detonate the magazine....
Point is, nothing is too strong or too weak... It's just that fate seems to have a different destiny for all things...
@@sandeeppallapu it was scuttled by its crew of Bismarck... I read an article few years ago that a mechanic from bismarck claimed it was scuttled due to an order to put charges then abandon the ship.
And i dont know if CV planes are covered by the USAF since those planes were from the CV of the USN
For all it's problems and idiocy, this is just a fun movie. You just have to let go of any sort of realistic ideas. And this scene, more than makes up for it. Getting to see the Missouri be badass again, and using a bunch of the original crew members... that's awesome.
I think the ending should've had the battleship sailing home with the jet fighters flying around it radioing back to the carrier telling the admiral there is a battleship out here and the admiral standing there in disbelief
100% should have happened
Just "There's a battleship out here!! It's Missouri!!"
Admiral: _???????????????_
They probably cut the scene out because they can see when the barrier went down
No matter how flawed a movie, there are scenes that just stand out. This is one of them. This effectively demonstrated the awesome firepower of a battleship.
100% the shock of acting captain Hopper of USS Missouri radioing in permission to join the fleet and sailing as lead ship.
I remember seeing a pre release cut of this scene wherein at the moment he drops the anchor, one of the old sailors grabbed onto a stanchion and yelled out “it’s the okacroke slide boys! And blackbeards at the helm!” Then the anchor snapped taught. Loved it.
Entertainment value 1000%. Realism value -1000%. Love it!
1:43 the USS Missouri is 270m, and that gap looks slightly less than 2 but we'll call it 550 for simplicity. The alien missiles took approximately 37 seconds to reach the ship, meaning they were moving at around 54kmph, or 29knots, meaning pretty much any modern military ship could easily outpace them.
we don't have battleships commissioned anymore, that was the movie's point of calling that ship a relic.
@@Progamerguy101 Changed it especially for you mate.
The Missouri’s guns also have a range of over 20 miles so them getting within a few hundred meters and in alien tomahawk range is even stupider, they could’ve shelled the aliens from a different area code
@@RedDeadRanger Thanks
USS Iowa class (modified after cold War) 80s :
270m (L), 32m (w), 56988tons full load, 16inch main batteries (Mark 7) [9 shells/3turrets/9 barrels], 5 inch secondary guns (Mark 12) [12 shells/6 turrets/12 barrels], bofors machine guns ×2, Sea-Ram AA missile countermeasures ×4, comanche helicopter ×1, 2 slots of swarmer missiles, 30knots.
IJN Yamato 1945:
263m (L), 38m (w), 73000 tons full load, 18.1 inch main batteries (type 94 SK model) [9 shells/3 turrets/9 barrels], 6 inch secondary guns [6 shells/2 turrets/6 barrels], 6 inch autocannons [12 shells/6 turrets/12 barrels], 5 inch autocannons/AA [12 shells/6 turrets/12 barrels], 24 AA 5 inch guns [72 shells/24 turrets/72 barrels], type zero fighter planes ×7, 27 knots.
Love how the Veteran said They are never sinking this battleship no way.
That ship has faced and survive many battles ain't no way its going down by some aliens.
Not so much Battles, it was the Last Class of Battleships... so the Action was mostly over.
전쟁은 전략 전술 많은 무기보다 한방이 중요합니다.
무너지는건 단한방 전일보처럼 등짝에 손자국없으면 허리반동 사용할수없지여
손자국은 인간의 의지?!
It won’t be going down by aliens….
……just not yet.
PEACE❤️
@@MarkEmperor This Aliens are weak.
Battleships are built in a way that makes them virtually unsinkable by other battleships. The guns can only shell what is above the water, and during the Bismark vs the Royal Navy, 4 ships hammered the Bismark for hours at point blank and she didn't sink until some torpedoes from a destroyer hit it below the water line.
Watching Mighty MO give a repeated full broadside has to be the most adrenaline pumping thing ever.
2:49 Best line ever. Let's drop some lead...
Let’s drop some lead on those mother-
FIRE!
putting warheads on foreheads
No it’s Let’s drop some lead on some motherfuckers
2:50 that dialogue give me chills
Ikr 🥶🥶
It made me laugh
Say what anyone will about this movie i still remember being young when it came out and it was a fun movie, no one should have thought it was going to win awards but it was fun
Dudes a legend, who knew you could drif a battleship
A retired US Navy Admiral once said "This happens to be one of my favorite movie". Think about it.
A retired US Gunnery Chief from one of those ships once said "This is even less believable than Under Siege and I didn't think that was possible."
God is always w US
The USS New Jersey was part of the 7th fleet during Viet Nam. Watching her fire all her guns broadside was impressive. The shockwave was more impressive. Hitting a bullseye from 25 miles even more impressive.
A lot of people think this is a dumb movie...perhaps...but I enjoyed it anyway
Same man, for me it's because it has good CGI and the story was pretty simple with a lot of action. I also love how it's not just typical "America vs aliens" it's combination from other country too that makes it look better
It's an entertaining movie I gotta say. I even enjoyed it myself. But it's just that. There're moments that are unrealistic and the most notable one for me, as a former sailor, is the one where they use the anchor to "drift" at sea. That's dumb. Even if it's a battle ship, the anchor chain is not immune to intense friction. If that anchor is dropped in that situation, not only would it fail miserably since the anchor chain will burn and snap or the gravity itself pulling the anchor block and decommissioning the entire windlass, there would also be a lot of factors to be considered. Even if by some miracle, the anchor chain didn't snap, is the anchor actually able to secure itself at the sea floor strong enough for the whole heavy battleship to "drift"? Worse case scenario the anchor wouldn't grab anything strong and instead of "drifting", the ship would still go forward and they still get hit by those alien Molotov. I can't blame people for thinking it's dumb even though it's an enjoyable movie.
For a movie based on a board game, I’d say it’s better than any video game based movie
3:40 One thing that I need to point out here is that how beautifully the armor of a battleship is illustrated in this scene. Remember earlier in the film what just a handful of those rounds did to the destroyers. Missouri practically shrugs off the hits with only the outer layers of turret 3 being blown off.
Yeah the armor of the Iowa class is crazy.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
The turret is completely destroyed and clearly blows up from the inside, dislodging the guns.
The other hits occur on areas of the ship that do NOT CARRY ANY ARMOR.
Yes that is correct, the areas around the main gun turret, including everything that is hit in this clip, are not armored at all. The plating in this location is only 30mm thin, or just over an inch. That is nothing.
The main armor belt is 307mm thick, but only covers the waterline. The main armor deck is 150mm thick, but is located one deck lower in the ship, just above the waterline, connecting to the main armor belt.
Just google "Iowa class armor scheme" and you will see what I mean. With the exception of the gun turret, no armor was hit in this scene.
@@hisaddlethe armor of the Iowa class is rather average. It's not great or "crazy" at all. For the size of the ship and the time it was build, it is actually below average.
Some comparisons:
As mentioned in my other comment, the 48.000 ton standard displacement Iowa class had a main armor belt that was 307mm thick inclined at 19 degrees. The deck was 152mm with a 32-38mm bomb deck above it and a 16mm splinter deck.
The French 37.000 ton Richelieu class had a 327mm belt inclined at 15 degrees plus a 170mm thick main deck plus a 40-50mm thick splinter deck.
The British 36.000 ton King George V class featured a 375mm thick belt, contoured to the hull (so not completely vertical as often stated), and a 150mm thick main deck plud 32mm weather deck.
The Italian 40.000 ton Littorio class had a 280+70mm thick belt armor inclined at 15 degrees, and a 150mm thick main armor deck plus 36mm weather deck.
The German 41.000 ton Bismarck class featured a 320mm thick belt and a 120mm thick main armor deck plus 50mm weather deck.
The French 26.000 ton Dunkerque class, the first of the modern fast battleships to be build and also by far the smallest one, featured a 225mm thin belt on Dunkerque and a 283mm thick belt on Strasbourg, inclined at 11 degrees, with a 125mm thick main deck and 40mm thick lower deck.
The famous 69.000 ton Japanese Yamato class had a 410mm thick belt inclined at 20 degrees plus a 200mm thick main armor deck with a 50mm thick weather deck.
It is important to remember that the Iowa class came a couple of years after all of the ships mentioned above, with none of the treaty restrictions, and with the exception of Yamato, the Iowa's were also far bigger and heavier than all of them.
So yeah, pretty average across the board. And that includes the area/volume protected by armor, which was also pretty average.
Now don't understand me wrong, the Iowa's were excellent battleship designs. And overall, they were THE BEST designs of the war, no questions there. But being the best overall does not mean they were the best in every single category, which is something many people tend to forget. And protection (armor and torpedo protection) was something that was not meaningfully improved in the Iowa's compared to the previous South Dakota and North Carolina classes, which were 12.000 tons lighter than the Iowa's (25% lighter).
@@xxnightdriverxx9576 and you clearly don’t pay enough attention!
When the shells hit, their explosions snapped off the three barrels and partially crumpled the barrette but nothing below the deck was damaged. Whereas with the destroyers earlier, just two shells caused a hull breech in Samson and a few more destroyed the JMSDF ship.
@@fionawimber1028 you are right that there wasn't a hull breach, but we literally see the turret explode from the inside, leaving behind a burning mess in follow up scenes. The entire turret blew up. The explosion also logically traveled down into the barbette, though it is clear that it was stopped somewhere before reaching the magazines.
When one of the Iowa's suffered an explosion inside her number 2 turret during I think the Vietnam war, 70 people died. This here looks like a similar explosion.
“That’s not what it means.” “Really?” “Not even close.” ---Got to be the best dialogue in this movie.
The daring tactic is an old one dating from the says of sail. It's called anchoring on springs, to let you better orient your ship to bring your broadside in best position to engage te enemy, And a fundamental problem for naval gunners is that your ship and your opponent are moving in three dimensions simultaneously,
In Age of Sail days, you were at the mercy of the gun captain of a cannon being ble to judge the exact moment to actually ire the gun with a hope of hitting the target, And the technique provided a more stable gun platform, dampening some of the possible movement that would throw the gun off target.
A modern battleship was s floating artillery platform, whose sheer size and displacement offered far more stability that an Ship of the Line in the Age of Sail. And it could shoot much farther. The 16" guns had a possible range of 20 miles in WWII, with improvements in smokeless powder increasing the to 40 miles in later year, But the ship would be firing at targets it couldn't even see over the horizon. There are reasons why the battleship was likely obsolete as a surface combatant when WWII began, and the biggest service battleships performed was fire support for amphibious landings against identified shore installations that could be accurately targeted. Might hae to fire a few rounds to walk the fire into the correct place, but a major blockhouse or shore battery wasn't moving anywhere...
I would think by turning the ship that way your exposing more of the ship making a bigger target for the enemy and easier for them to hit u I would think by positioning bow first and firing bow guns would make your profile smaller and harder to hit if that makes sense
@@jaredharris1970 yes it would make you a smaller target but a broadside would absolutely destroy your enemy especially since battleships are designed to absorb a few hits. If you wanted to sink an enemy battleship then you would need a full broadside to do it.
Inland from Pointe Du Hoc on DDay.
Special joint Army Navy Fire Control teams translated calls for fire from the Army system to Navy system.
The 2nd Ranger battalion and the 116th Infantry were calling for fire from the Battleship Nevada targeting single German tanks.
The Nevada fired rounds from its gun batteries for 80 continous hours.
At one point the Captain orderef the ship closer to the beaches because smoke was obscuring the targets on the beach.
Colonel Rudder of the 2nd Rangers made the remark.
Today the Rangers love the Navy.
Bruh didn't some veteran navy just prove that this movement is impossible to do in real live? Go watch "insider"
It is impractical to design ships with the fire power they can carry, and have all guns able to fire forward. And the front profile needs to be slim for speed/maneuverability. So a broadside brings the most guns to bear with a turreted design. With ships as large as battleships getting hit is inevitable. So they were designed to take hits and exchange fire. Modern warships tend to have less guns but forward turret mounted I believe.
That is a powerful scene I so enjoy watching every once in a while. The questioning of his orders at every turn, like the direction of the guns, the anchor, etc just takes away from the scene so much
One of my favorite bit is if you watch really close at 2:58-3:00, you can see they even CGI'd the barrels recoiling back as they're fired. Nice touch.
That’s because the entire ship is CGI
4:37
And I can't believe it has already been a decade since this movie came out.
The targeting and tracking analog computers on the Iowa class are still to this day the most accurate pieces of tech the US navy still has at its disposal. That's even with all the technological advancements we have developed.
During its upgrades in the 80's those systems were not touched but enhanced to a insane degree. The Iowa's during Desert Storm 1 had a Spotter Drones and there's stories of the Iraq artillery surrendering to the drone because they knew that as soon as that thing was up in the air a 16 inch shell was only 40 seconds away.
There is something about heavy machinery, especially war machines whirring into action. Gives me chills.
Im a (not yet) naval engineer coming from a landlocked country (Austria)
Seeing the Iowa for the first time gave me the same chills these guys must have had after seeing that alien thing unfold its weapons.
@Notmuchnoob it's an iowa-class, still technically true
Those ships were meant to slug it out and who ever was able to put enough steel on target won. Plain and simple. During world war II they were the Titans of the sea. Everybody wanted one yet only a few could afford it. They were expensive and bulky and really hard to upgrade. But, they also were robust and extremely versatile. I got to see one up close while it was active as a kid. They were amazing machines who the crew absolutely loved.
And let's not forget this same vessel actually SERVED in 1991 during the invasion of Iraq, in Desert Storm. It even fired it's mains guns at some Iraqi Bunkers and artillery positions.
These behemoths of the past are priceless relics.
I am AIRFORCE but this film makes me love the NAVY. WHAT A FILM
Not American, but why do you say it like that, is there some sort of conflict so to speak between the branches?
Excellent Film! Every minute, every character, every music choice, just loved it start to finish! And when the old Veterans show up..Kaboom!!
Wasn't in here but when he says "I need to borrow your boat" that gets me every time.
No Navy guy would ever say that. Submarines are boats, battleships are ships.
@@howardsmith9342 I was army anyway. Go give some marines a ride.
@@Mike91337 LOL. I managed to not get drafted at the end of Vietnam. Never been in the military, but I do read a lot.
The sheer audacity and ridiculousness of this movie made me love it!!!
Hasbro did this one and the last dungeons and dragons movie right.
Thank you for our giving our great warriors to show us how committed they were to save us no matter what the time is as they are breathing🙂
The Oath is for life.
All enemies, foreign or domestic.
I hope they‘ll release a sequel one time
I wish I could reload that fast in World of Warships... All jokes aside, amazing movie I wish they would make another one.
I really liked this movie, even though it got slated critically. Not every movie needs to be aiming for an oscar.
3:59 My contribution in a group project
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There's something really satisfying about watching those 16" guns fire like that! 😁
If you can suspend your belief this scene is amazing. If you focus too much on physics you know just how wrong it is. Ships of any size simply can't have the anchor go taught like that and not sustain severe damage, not unless they were specifically designed for it and reinforced to brunt the immense amount of stress that would place on the ship and the anchor itself. Which I think is impossible but I could be wrong. The other point of contention is the decision to get up close. Those guns have a severe amount of range on them, the kind of range that would have made the alien's method of attack wholly moot. Those charges are launched short distances. Those guns can be effective for miles and miles. The ship would have won without breaking a sweat.
I'm amazed his ears aren't bleeding after being topside during a full broadside with no hearing protection.
Well it's actually possible, since during World War a lot of Navy works on the deck even though those big cannon are shooting other ship
I love this part. Never get tired of watching Mighty Mo fire her guns.
Although there is one thing I don't get. Why doesn't he understand Art of War!
His in the Military, you would think that's day 1 lecture!!!
That's the reason he forgot it. Too many lectures after day 1.
Sun Tzu is required reading at the academies.
As an enlisted you dont get that stuff, but he is an officer. That is required reading for them.
Never studied. Too busy planning the next chicken burrito heist.
This movie get a lot of stick But it was a fun romp with some cool sequences and some well done ideas. Will watch again. And they used *actual* Navy vets? Too cool.
USS Missouri is one of the most strongest Iowa Class Battleship in the history of the United States Navy
Yep, her and big J , the New Jersey.
America's Navy needs 12 of this class battleship with all the modern warfare upgrades. OH, YEAH!!!
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@@jason9035 I know USS New Jersey she's one of the most greatest toughest strongest and the most mightiest Iowa Class Battleship in the history of the United States Navy World War 2, Korean War, Vietnam War, Lebanon War, and the Persian Gulf her battle won by rewarding 19 battle stars as a true American Warship in the world
USA is a terror state
That slide always gives me chills and brings a smile to my face
Battleship is one of the best scifi action movies of all time. It never gets old.
Love this movie, especially when they take the battleship over to attack the alien ship. The music just pumped me up watching the movie
Funny thing about Navy battles in the modern era, they end very quickly and actually have a hard time being draw out for more action. Battleships had to shell each other for hours to get a kill because their guns damage what's above the waterline rather than below it.
@@funveeable Except for the Hood
Fighting aliens is far more believable than that anchor actually sticking and turning a battleship on a dime 🤣😂… I still like the movie though lol
My grandad served on a battleship, he LOVED this movie so much because this is what he WANTED… battleships didn’t fight the battles they were made for after WW1
If aviation had been delayed just 20 years...
Imagine Missouri squaring off with Yamato in open ocean.
We need more movies like this! Didn’t even feel like pandering, everything felt right.
This movie was the most realistic war movie ever. It's the equivalent of a P-51 Mustang defeating an F-22 Raptor.
One of my all time favourite movies, I own it on Blu-ray, and have watched it countless times, and on Netflix also, I never get tired of it, and this scene is the biggest reason why!
Every ships needs a captain like Hopper.
I just watched this recently. Such a great scene. Ac/Dc really added to it.
Americans are that cool, that cheated not just to the whole planet Earth, but even to the aliens. I'm so proud.
The battleship armament is quite powerful. Just 1 shell from her 16" turrent is 2000lbs. I know this because the USS Wisconsin is docked in Norfolk VA next to Nauticus naval museum and hanging from the ceiling is a scale with a single 16" projectile on one side and a VW bug on the other.
It was to bad they did not have white phoperis rounds. The bad guys would have been well done and extra crispy.
@@johnsquire8169 Crispy Critters from deep space.. mmm mmmm finger lickin good.. where's the sauce!
Do you want hot sauce or barbq. A1 or Hinz 57.
The biggest suspension of disbelief in this movie isn’t anything to do with the aliens but that this scene even exists despite that the main guns of an Iowa class battleship like this could’ve shelled the aliens from over 20 miles away
That's also true of basically every space battle ever since any kind of remotely laser-like weapon could engage from 200,000 miles away.
They can’t shell the aliens from 20 miles away cuz they were trapped by the force field
@@benyseus6325 20miles is the range of the guns not how far I’m saying they should be, inferences are important
Also if you think a forcefield that can be seen from space and encompassed Hawaii wasn’t bigger than 20 miles I got some bad news for you
@@achilles8804 Didn't they say that due to the aliens mobility their best chance of hitting them was to get as close to them as they could?
@@achilles8804 the reason why they didnt was because they had a limited ammunition supply and couldnt afford to waste it. yes a battleships main gun has a range of 20 miles but that doesnt mean it can accurately _hit_ a target at 20 miles. on average with an experienced gunner, a battleships main gun was only around 32% accurate at _nine_ miles.
I saw this movie when it first came out (ALL the critics HATED it,so I decided to see it )I wasn’t expecting much,so I was pleasantly surprised to absolutely love this movie! The ONLY beef I have with it is that there is NO WAY IN H€££ that those pegs could take out that turret that easily!They were DESIGNED to take hits just as powerful as those pegs and keep on firing!😎😎😎
Utter American exceptionalism. Several of the hits the Mo took in this movie would have sunk her or disabled her.
@@masterdynamo6457 Utter American Hater. All of the world’s top of the line battleships were designed to take direct hits from most of the main batteries on the current ships of the line (the Yamato Class being the sole exception because nobody knew what caliber the main guns were) .Now they could shoot up the upper superstructure badly,but during the kamikaze attacks, they only suffered a slight dent. Plus when they found the Bismarck, She Wasn’t as shot up as the British said. All evidence points to her being scuttled to keep Her from being captured!
Most of the firepower from the pegs would have been reflected off the hard armored hull of the ship, making that massive explosion.@@masterdynamo6457
@robertwall1419 I've never heard she was scuttled with the entire crew still on board. From everything I've seen on it they think a round managed to hit a powder mag after her rudder locked up.
@@robertwall1419 man, I'd have loved to have seen a video of mustache man if he found out his priced Bismarck had been captured. But even a video of him hearing it was scuttled would have been great.
Im suprised Aliens with spacefaring capabilities hasn't figured out missiles and yet uses advanced computers to predict where their unguided stick grenade looking things are gonna land.
We use smart bombs and cruise middles, but we also still use mortars and RPGs!
Would aliens be so much different than us?
Really?
I'm betting they figured out toilet paper extremely quick after this.
The alien weapons were deliberately chosen to look like the pegs in the board game.
These guys were a scouting team at best, probably some kind of research team to see if the planet is habitable.
@@silentwraith9674 There's actually a theory that the aliens are just a mining team, which is why their "munitions" hit and sink in before exploding.
loved the way the ship took that turn in 2:42 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2:50 easily the most humorous line of the whole clip
The aliens committed the biggest cardinal sin: you don’t mess with America’s boats!
One of the biggest action and sound effects scenes ever put on screen! At home only a THX Certified receiver does this movie justice!
This is what happens, when aliens travel 50 million lightyears to Earth using their advanced technology and then base their weapon systems on old Windows 8 without the latest patch.
love this scene but what always bothers me is that the ship magicly moved to the side of the alien ship. 2:38 its fully infront of the alien. and couple second later it moved to the complete side of it...
Even I am also confuse , that when the anchor drop and the ship get stop it must be in front of the alien ship
Bro, when they get hit by the whatever depth charge looking things, two turrets go “Kaboom” and yet the next scene, the battleship still has 2/3 turrets intact
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Maybe they knocked out the turning systems as the captain of the alien ship was knocked down and some control surfaces were severed.
@@Atarilas one turret took a direct hit while the other was shaken about (those turrets are heavy, so it must have been really close to do that)
i know this scene is stupid in terms of actually practicality, but I don't care, because this scene gives me goosebumps everytime I watch it.
Assistiria mais 10 vezes! Fantástica essa cena!
This was the most intense part of the movie.. especially with them vets fighting together again arming the battleship that they armed at a younger age ..let's drop some lead on those mfs....chills ..legends
I’ve worked for the vets at VA hospitals & most of them are in their twilight years but to see these guys get up & fight again really does bring on the goosebumps. And yes, I know it’s only a movie!
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Wow thats amazing on working with the vets hats off to you and your hard work passion. And yes just a movie but just to imagine thier spirt to fight again is very powerful.
@@renerivera5096 yes, I see them every day, either wheeling around in their wheelchairs but more likely in hospital beds, particularly if they are WWII vets, & I think that if they were to see a movie like this particularly if they’re Navy vets, I bet you’d see a spark in their eyes even after all of this time.
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That's a huge possibility, that's a great idea. I am sure they would light up in a heart beat. Shoot I would try it. I just have a feeling if you do that they would feel honored .
I read Art of War in relation to my martial arts training on my masters recommendation.
If you haven't read Art of War, the TL;DR is: "Creativity wins" and OMG it's so true! 😉
2:44 i still remember i was screaming so loud seeing this scene
When I got the movie ended and my wife told me what did we just waste our money on. Goosebumps