Impressive mobility my ass...Top Gear did a test on sand dunes...The Toyota Landcruiser and Land Rover climbed it easy....they Hummer failed miserably.
@@brokeandtired JLTV can easily climb a 30% sand slope, with a 3,500 (4 seat) / 5,100 (2 seat) payload...fully armored. Soft soil mobility was one of the pass - fail requirements - it met them easily.
Ha ha ha.. I have no degree in defense strategic studies. I do own 2 humvees... 1 runs weak, the other runs extremely strong. Both 6.2. Oshkosh has been building trucks for along time. There concrete trucks are the top of the list. Great components. Run great. I think they knocked there rig out of the park. Remember DOD sets the perimeters ,not the manufacturer. There truck looks more correct than anyone else's. Great motor that has had tons of r&d for 20 years in the private sector. The motors are actually dialed down on these trucks. They can be turned up 3-400 horse if needed. The only thing the humvee really has over the new rigs is there lack of electrical systems. Very emp proof. If nukes are ever used, all the new systems will fail unless hardened. Most military equipment is not hardened.
I'll say this, the HUMVEE was an excellent vehicle for what it was designed for, did some of the initial testing at Ft. Knox waaaayyyyy back in 1984, (yes, I'm old) on what type of grease worked best, how it handled terrain and slopes, vision, mobility, speed, etc.... This was not the be all end all, I was a fresh private, just following what my superiors asked and was thrilled to be able to be the drive this newer vehicle. (The HEMTT was also being tested). Fast forward 25 years and I'm in Afghanistan looking at a flat bottomed, heavily up armored HUMVEE with a engine that was NEVER designed for that type of weight, and a little more situational awareness as an E7. Yeah, we put sand bags all over the flooring plates, added what we could to the outside, and did a ton of praying that no IED's would be found the "hard" way or RPG's/EFP's fired. The vehicle was never designed for these types of situations, which at the time of conception had not been encountered by the US military. This was in 2008. (Yes, I understand the military was looking/ordering/had MRAP variants in 07, but none for us at FOB Salerno at that time had them). Following year, 2009, we received the first round of the MRAP vehicles, (RG series I believe) with the V bottoms, come in the back or the gunners hatch, neither the driver/TC doors opened. Presented several issues on that alone, but the vehicle, memory serves, was from South Africa, or designed in that country. Saved my life, and that of 6 others when we took an IED in the face, took off the cowl all the way to the main frame and saved several in my Platoon as we took over 40 "hits" during that rotation. (Mine Clearance Platoon). Things evolve, that is the nature of man/war and the HUMVEE has outlived it's design. I did get to use this vehicle in 2011/12, (JLTV) or a variant, and while I did like the modular design, found the crew quarters lacking. (did not drive it). Sitting in the back, it's difficult to stay out the gunners way as he travers's, vision is not optimal, and you have no way to fire out any portal on the doors if in contact without opening the doors. I was not able to use the CROWS on this vehicle, so cannot comment on that. But, this is the future for now as it does offer a ton more protection for our troops, and that is what counts.
My unit got these about 4 years ago when I was in lol when I first seen the 4 our unit got coming off the train I was in shock lol they look like absolute beasts in person
It was already too big and heavy to get into some places. Looks like America only considers fight on a desert a thing. But there are also mountains and forests you know.
First of all, thank your for your service, that was a pretty cool story. Secondly, I agree that the HMMWV was a great vehicle that was unfortunately just being used beyond what it was designed to do. I joined the Marine Corps back in 2010 (only served one term) and back then the HMMWV's were already armored. They were incredibly slow but were still a very capable machine when it came to traversing difficult terrain. I never actually got a chance to play with any of the JLTV but they do seem pretty cool. I almost want to reenlist just to drive one haha!
@@Veethecool9 no more complex than what tanks have had for 30 years. new technology may have hiccups but it's what gives us our edge and i'd rather make it work than throw it out.
They have a heavily modified Chevrolet ZR2 for high-speed troop transport. www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/gms-infantry-squad-vehicle-builds-colorado-zr2-foundation
I never liked the HMVEE maybe it's because, that's all you younger soldiers know. I remember when they replaced the WWII jeeps. Those were true military vehicles and they ran on gas, not diesel like the HMVEES we had.
The RG 31 was my baby in Afganistan. We ran 5 in our Route Clearance patrol. 4 out of 5 were hit by IEDs. 2 of them multiple times. The glory of that truck was out mechanics ability to get them from "blown up" to driving condition in 2 missions. I know Humvees will always be the icon for the Army, but those RGs saved our lives. More than once and I'll always remember them for that.
@Al Qaeda HMMWVs will be used as logistical and transport vehicles, as they were originally intended. The JLTV will be used by the Army and Marines for frontline and combat activities.
JLTV is a tactical light vehicle, HMMWV is a multi-purpose light vehicle. Hummers are gonna stick around because we made so fucking many and they're still decent for logistics and background use. The JLTV is for Frontline operations, able to take hits easily and be easily recoverable.
@Hunter Furman I could only imagine. I've been in death valley with windows up during 120° for a very limited amount of time and felt like I was going to suffocate.
The, "Student Driver", psychological warfare placard is the greatest innovation on the JLTV, which took 15 years and $7,000,000 to develop. Top military mobility experts say this addition to the JLTV will provide, an "astounding deterrence", to enemy fire.
I must have been driving them over 70, maybe over 80, about 30 years ago. Not the fastest vehicles, but they had more than enough speed for normal use. (Of course, back then 55 was the highest speed allowed anywhere in the United States.)
@@kennooo535It's a long running joke with the Americans. Everything is bigger and heavier than their British and European counterparts. I think everyone gets the joke, except Americans.
What's amazing is if you know how to properly drive a Humvee off-road it can go where Modern off-road vehicles either can't or barely can and with out lockers. Then you think yourself wow it's a one and quarter ton payload rated truck? Imagine how great at off road that thing was any 80s compared to other open differential 80s off-roaders LOL with the payload rating of a Ford F-550 what off-road capabilities of a Jeep Rubicon and 40 years old. To this day the Humvee is still an amazing machine
@@Revnge7Fold it’s not that bad on modern range rovers, e.g. 2019 onwards, I believe that is due to them changing the manufacturing process and just generally the design of the shocks.
@@Revnge7Fold I think it might be a some sort of active or semi-active suspension. Possibly magnetic. Since they didn't want to disclose it, it is probably pretty interesting.
Lol 10metric tonnes is nothing compared to an mbt. If it can protect soldiers lives, then the extra weight would be worth it. (Well worth it for the country issuing it of course)
@@MazdaRX7007 Yes. I don't know anyone asking for light and fast. We're looking for better mobility WITH extra armor and the ability to mount more sophisticated weapons. This vehicle provides that. I would not want to patrol in a Jeep. The Brits learned that lesson in Iraq with the snatch.
"designed for the European battlefield" 🤣🤣🤣 The Humvee was never designed for Frontline combat in the first place. It was a carry all/ workhorse for behind the lines logistics..🙃
The humvee WAS designed for the European battlefield. The humvee would serve on the front lines, in tow anti tank teams, 81mm mortar teams, ambulances, recon and rear area operations.
I joined the Army in 1986, the HUMVEE was just starting to replace the Jeep. Neither of those vehicles were ever meant to be an armored vehicle. In Somalia we put sandbags in the seat wells and floor boards and called them "uparmored" and the gunner had no protection. The new armored vehicles look great for actual combat use, I hope they keep some type of field vehicle that can be used for basic transporation.
Correct me if I’m wrong. I thibk they use a duramax engine which has ceased production. There is a youtube video about it somewhere but I totaly forgot about it.
The MATV saved my life and many other Marines I served with. We had over 70 MATV/MRAP vehicles get blown up during my time in Now Zad Afghanistan and zero deaths resulted from those.
not even 20 seconds in am I'm gonna stop you right there chief. Did you just describe the Humvee as fast? What are you comparing it to? A 60 ton tank because even compared to that its not much faster.
This is so awesome! The US army wants a better, safer, and more powerful vehicle for their infantry. To get reliable power from the engine they turn to Chevy and Gale Banks, who is a legend in the racing scene. He is basically a speed shop owner however, he is probably the most successful racers in the world. Gale holds multiple top speed records on the Bonneville Salt Flats with diesel and gasoline powered race cars and he still runs a speed shop albeit a much bigger and successful one. This is just an amazing real story of the military working with a civilian racer to make something so awesome. BTW: the power on this engine is low because it was detuned to run on bad/dirty diesel, you never know what you will get in a plastic jug somewhere in Afghanistan. The horsepower can be up to 575HP Torque from 725-900 ft-tq
@@professionalschizo As I mentioned,I didn't know at the time...Please read.The JLTV's I saw were from the USMC. Also,I never mentioned about the MATV's & JLTV's being the same trucks...Read again.
@@Zanelander Thanks for replying to a year old comment...I already knew later on after that. They have plenty of them...But they won't be taking over the HMMWV's completely,too heavy and too big to fit inside a C130 or C5 and can't be parachuted out. JLTV's will probably have the same fate as MATV's and MRAPV's overseas,too costly to ship them back.
it has a hell of a lot more leg room i'm 5'8 and literally slept on the floor of my truck commander seat in afghanistan with my head on the seat and body on the floor
@@kevinbutton4580 It underwent extensive blast testing & met all of the requirements. Is described as "MRAP-like protection." Way way way better than ANY HMMWV,
I was in the US Army from 1986 to 1995. I hated the Humvee. It was unconfortable, noisy, hard to see around and a general pain in the ass to drive. I was a mechanic and it was a nightmare to work on them. I'm glad that they replaced the piece of junk.
They (HMMWV) are gonna be around for a long time, given the slowness of the JLTV procurement. The Big Kahunas gotta buy their pet rocks first...systems like JLTV that can actually save lives are lower priority.
@@FreeNationRadio OshKosh presented a better and cheaper plan/blueprint. Lockheed Martin don't need to low ball bc they work with Navy and Air Force on their aerial components. That's really their bread and butter not wheeled vehicles.
The biggest thing the Humvees missed was armour plating on the floor. A lot of units made up their own. Mind you go over a 500lb IED in an APC it’s academic.
@@thespectator5259 There will be a new competition in 2022 Im hoping they consider the Textron Humvee SCTV, Australian Thales Hawkei and British Foxhound
I enjoy driving hmmwvs but they're pretty faulty and rough to ride in. They handle mud pretty well unless it has that bolt on armor kit then it was like driving an f250 with a go kart motor.
That’s a badass looking ride. Best engine with best trans with the best suspension. I just hope they incorporated the best radiator and BEST AIR CONDITIONER! 😉
I like how they mention 300 something horsepower but they leave out the torque as if the 300 something horsepower is what's moving that big thing around when we both know it's the torque that's doing the work. I hate when things mention horsepower and not torque especially when the torque is the most important part of whatever is being mentioned
So two of these may or may not have been dragged raced down the runway of Al Asad back in early 2015. They were leaps ahead of the Humvee. I never wanted to get into a 7-Ton or Humvee ever again.
Yeah making Humvee so heavy was not only huge strain on the engine but also whole suspension - this actually shows how well Humvee was designed that it did not disintegrate.
I love how everyone in the comments is making fun about America calling this vehicle light.If you saw this vehicle's opponents,you would understand why the US call them light (im mostly referring to the South African Marauder MRAP)
when it comes to the suppression its kind easy to figure out obviously its not gonna be leaf, air bag or coil. we can look at it another way it has to be completely independent, height adjustable and extremely rugged and a proven system. Hint its bean used on tanks it is used on some farm tractors and lots of agricultural trailers are starting to use it. if you still haven figured it out click read more. its hydro pneumatic
Why? Its a piece of junk There are countless civilian vehicles that are much better options Ramsmobile RM-X2 Terradyne Gurkha Karlmann King Conquest Knight XV Rezvani Tank Dartz Prombron USSV Rhino GX PlanB Supply Ricochet Devolro Diablo Tundra Range Rover Sentinel Texas Armoring Mercedes-Benz G63 AMG 6x6 Aurum VR10 Roshel Senator Avtoros Shaman Inkas Sentry Civilian Paramount Marauder
@@Colton_Harpole Wow...a whole 12 likes The JLTV is a piece of junk... There are countless better civilian options And the DoD knows it's junk, that's why they are already replacing it... The DoD cut the 2021 order for JLTVs significantly and is having a new competition in 2022 The Textron SCTV Humvee kit is superior by every metric at half the price The Australian Thales Hawkei is far superior The British Fox Hound is superior Maybe you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid in public
even though this is clearly more armored and made for war, the humvee still looks tougher and more american. this new thing has alot of sleek looking lines, and doesnt look as beefy as a humvee.
I thought the MRAPs looked puny...until I saw it in person side by side with a humvee. Those things are stupid huge, makes the humvee look like a toy XD ngl though, humvee is iconic
When tested this vehicle has one critical repair every 7500 miles. This compares with 1700 miles for a Humvee. The overall reliability is amazing. The Duramax is a Izuzu designed engine with incredible reliability and Banks modified.
So it is a better off-roader than the hmmwv, has more protection, hopefully isn't a shitbox, and is at least as fast if not faster in most situations. Seems like the perfect upgrade, what are all the arm-chair engineers complaining about?
MUCH better in soft soil (a Key requirement); has "MRAP-like" protection; and can maintain road speeds with a 3,500 pound (4-seater) / 5,100 pound (2-seater) payload with armor installed while towing 11,000 pounds. // Some folks will complain if ya hung them with an OLD rope.
The HMMWV was a replacement for the last of the Military M-151 Mutt Jeeps and M-561 Gama-Goats. The first generation of the High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) M998 were an absolute joy drive to use. But after Operation Just Cause in Panama 1989, and the Battle of Mogadishu in 1993. The higher ups were pushing for a HMMWV with some kind of ballistic protection. The first of these had a Kevlar blanket (spall liner) placed into the floor pan inside the crew area and later got bullet resistant glass in modified doors designated as the model XM-1114. This was fine since the frame and 6.2 diesel engine could handle the extra weight. However with the addition of heavy plate armor package and equipment the HMMWV became so overweight that the frame and engine were having a lot of trouble. That and the fact that the HMMWV was not Mine-Resistant lead to the creation of the Oshkosh (JLTV) M-1278. These two vehicel's are basically Apples and Oranges, one can not fairly compare the two.
Lol, I feel like only civilians are forced to watch the climate, the military gets a free pass. But if shit hits the fan, I'd want a big engine to get me out of there fast and still have the armor
@@Jan_372 He probably means the Puma, wich has a 11 liter diesel, compared to the Marders 22,6l diesel, but the Pumas engine acutally is more capable than the Marders, producing 1090hp, compared to 600hp from the Marders engine. He may also mean the Fennek, wich has a 240hp, wich is far less than the Luchses 390hp, but the fennek is a smaller vehicle, wheighing 9 tons less than the luch. The Fennek has more hp per ton than the luchs. All in all european "light" vehicles get smaller and lighter then their predecessors, but that has nothing to do with saving the climate, but with the fact that symmetric combat between nations is far less likely than assymetrical combat, were small, agile vehicles are better suited than heavy vehicles. One has to keep in mind that almost all european military vehicles that are being replaced were desinged with a war against russia in mind, so they are desinged to fight a superior enemy, not terrorists with rpgs that use guerillia and hit-and-run tactics.
@@thoughtfox2409 No one in EU would have created a wheeled general purpose vehicle with over 10t weight empty. That thing would be swallowed in any soft terrain in an instant.
Welcome to the Military TV comment section where everyone has a degree in Defense and Strategic Studies from West Point 😍
you didnt talk about integrated systems. does it have 360° cam? drive assistence? automated parking in to planes with the help of ai?
Impressive mobility my ass...Top Gear did a test on sand dunes...The Toyota Landcruiser and Land Rover climbed it easy....they Hummer failed miserably.
@@brokeandtired JLTV can easily climb a 30% sand slope, with a 3,500 (4 seat) / 5,100 (2 seat) payload...fully armored. Soft soil mobility was one of the pass - fail requirements - it met them easily.
@@Knightfire66 It has Front & rear camera, tinkering w/ 360 degree...but thats what the M1A1 eyeball is for.
Ha ha ha..
I have no degree in defense strategic studies. I do own 2 humvees... 1 runs weak, the other runs extremely strong. Both 6.2. Oshkosh has been building trucks for along time. There concrete trucks are the top of the list. Great components. Run great. I think they knocked there rig out of the park. Remember DOD sets the perimeters ,not the manufacturer. There truck looks more correct than anyone else's. Great motor that has had tons of r&d for 20 years in the private sector. The motors are actually dialed down on these trucks. They can be turned up 3-400 horse if needed. The only thing the humvee really has over the new rigs is there lack of electrical systems. Very emp proof. If nukes are ever used, all the new systems will fail unless hardened. Most military equipment is not hardened.
I'll say this, the HUMVEE was an excellent vehicle for what it was designed for, did some of the initial testing at Ft. Knox waaaayyyyy back in 1984, (yes, I'm old) on what type of grease worked best, how it handled terrain and slopes, vision, mobility, speed, etc.... This was not the be all end all, I was a fresh private, just following what my superiors asked and was thrilled to be able to be the drive this newer vehicle. (The HEMTT was also being tested).
Fast forward 25 years and I'm in Afghanistan looking at a flat bottomed, heavily up armored HUMVEE with a engine that was NEVER designed for that type of weight, and a little more situational awareness as an E7. Yeah, we put sand bags all over the flooring plates, added what we could to the outside, and did a ton of praying that no IED's would be found the "hard" way or RPG's/EFP's fired. The vehicle was never designed for these types of situations, which at the time of conception had not been encountered by the US military. This was in 2008. (Yes, I understand the military was looking/ordering/had MRAP variants in 07, but none for us at FOB Salerno at that time had them).
Following year, 2009, we received the first round of the MRAP vehicles, (RG series I believe) with the V bottoms, come in the back or the gunners hatch, neither the driver/TC doors opened. Presented several issues on that alone, but the vehicle, memory serves, was from South Africa, or designed in that country. Saved my life, and that of 6 others when we took an IED in the face, took off the cowl all the way to the main frame and saved several in my Platoon as we took over 40 "hits" during that rotation. (Mine Clearance Platoon).
Things evolve, that is the nature of man/war and the HUMVEE has outlived it's design. I did get to use this vehicle in 2011/12, (JLTV) or a variant, and while I did like the modular design, found the crew quarters lacking. (did not drive it). Sitting in the back, it's difficult to stay out the gunners way as he travers's, vision is not optimal, and you have no way to fire out any portal on the doors if in contact without opening the doors. I was not able to use the CROWS on this vehicle, so cannot comment on that. But, this is the future for now as it does offer a ton more protection for our troops, and that is what counts.
Amazing
My unit got these about 4 years ago when I was in lol when I first seen the 4 our unit got coming off the train I was in shock lol they look like absolute beasts in person
You must have had the MATV. JLTV wasn’t fielded until after 2017. I was a test engineer for Oshkosh
It was already too big and heavy to get into some places. Looks like America only considers fight on a desert a thing. But there are also mountains and forests you know.
First of all, thank your for your service, that was a pretty cool story. Secondly, I agree that the HMMWV was a great vehicle that was unfortunately just being used beyond what it was designed to do. I joined the Marine Corps back in 2010 (only served one term) and back then the HMMWV's were already armored. They were incredibly slow but were still a very capable machine when it came to traversing difficult terrain. I never actually got a chance to play with any of the JLTV but they do seem pretty cool. I almost want to reenlist just to drive one haha!
From the outside it looks cool and is a good idea. From a mechanic standpoint all those fancy electronics are gonna be a nightmare.
I agree, in a battlefield scenario, It's just too complicated to maintain.
@@Veethecool9 no more complex than what tanks have had for 30 years. new technology may have hiccups but it's what gives us our edge and i'd rather make it work than throw it out.
Well they could specifically train wheeled mechanics to repair the electronics along with the general mechanical systems
They'll not be authorized to touch them anyway... They'll need to RMA the defective units.
Most battalions don't take good care of their vehicles so after a decade it will be useless.
Civilians: *When does this thing come out to the public?*
Military folk: *Does it come with dependable AC?*
The AC is great btw
Lolz im rolling so true
@@kevinmcmillin870 of course, it’s OshKosh. I wouldn’t expect any less from them.
The ac is amazing
It does have ac and cup holders
Slowly evolving into Halo's Warthog
Yes
Halo's warthog has no marine protection, it's just a recon vehicle.
@@muhdelyas-abgyas562 wait till someone finds a way to integrate active protection to body armour
Btw I am joking here, that systems can kill nearby crew easily soo no bulshitting about possibility
@@muhdelyas-abgyas562 The armor is on the Marines themselves.
America: “we need a new light vehicle”
Engineer: “ok” *builds a tank*
When a M1 weights 70 tons, it is a light weight vehicle
More freedom with sturdier delivery
Your profile pic perfectly describes how the Army must've expressed when seeing the new Vehicle
These fulfill the role of armored cars, but with better speed and manueverability.
Nations have fielded armored cars for 100 years.
Exactly
Military, we need something small and light. Military, what we really ment is something large and heavy.
small and light, perfect target for IED
They have a heavily modified Chevrolet ZR2 for high-speed troop transport. www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/gms-infantry-squad-vehicle-builds-colorado-zr2-foundation
These are leagues better than the Humvee and MATV.
These are relatively light, and are actually built to carry their own weight
@Hoo Lee Sheet also durable and efficient
RIP Humvee, you have a special place in my heart.
You must be a parts supplier.
Damn man he said it was going to be around another 30 years what more could you ask for.
in the taliban hearts too now that they have a lot of those.
I never liked the HMVEE maybe it's because, that's all you younger soldiers know. I remember when they replaced the WWII jeeps. Those were true military vehicles and they ran on gas, not diesel like the HMVEES we had.
The RG 31 was my baby in Afganistan. We ran 5 in our Route Clearance patrol. 4 out of 5 were hit by IEDs. 2 of them multiple times. The glory of that truck was out mechanics ability to get them from "blown up" to driving condition in 2 missions. I know Humvees will always be the icon for the Army, but those RGs saved our lives. More than once and I'll always remember them for that.
We see it on youtube recently in Ukrine without tire..
"Army and Marines will continue to use HMMVV's until 2050" Bro we gonna be dead before we get the new trucks
the HMMVV's will be 70 years old by the time they reach retirement. actually insane.
The Vehicles are out dated already. They are already 40 years old and the Pentagon is seeing problems with them today.
@Al Qaeda HMMWVs will be used as logistical and transport vehicles, as they were originally intended. The JLTV will be used by the Army and Marines for frontline and combat activities.
JLTV is a tactical light vehicle, HMMWV is a multi-purpose light vehicle. Hummers are gonna stick around because we made so fucking many and they're still decent for logistics and background use. The JLTV is for Frontline operations, able to take hits easily and be easily recoverable.
The hmmvv will still be used on military bases in the USA for training and other logistics. Not for combat .
I don't think I've ever heard the middle east called "southwest Asia"
The middle east in part of "asia"
Iraq is in asia
Well that’s what it is
Its pretty much a military use
There's only 7 continents and middle east ain't one of them.
Yea yea cut the crap, is this things AC going to break down every other week like the Humvees?
Going strong for the last 6 month here in Okinawa!
@@Norosco4u nice, I'm off base just outside Kadena.
Yea I can imagine how hot it would get in the desert
@Hunter Furman I could only imagine. I've been in death valley with windows up during 120° for a very limited amount of time and felt like I was going to suffocate.
cook for...FREEDOM!
Just finished the JLTV Course and let me tell ya.... I love this thing so much.
Good to hear! A lot of effort went into the vehicle.
Pissed that I got out before I heard my old unit was gonna get a couple of these 😩 #BackInMyDay
@@rowbooze Can always re-enlist! :) But you would mebbe mocked for reupping for a vehicle... (I needed this in E Africa a million years ago.)
@@Buck123four Lol speaking of, I was actually looking to enlist in the AF. Long story, but got curious and talked to a recruiter a few days ago. 😂
@@rowbooze Well, Good Luck to you! Lot of good things out there...some BS at times, but thats about everywhere. Take care.
The, "Student Driver", psychological warfare placard is the greatest innovation on the JLTV, which took 15 years and $7,000,000 to develop. Top military mobility experts say this addition to the JLTV will provide, an "astounding deterrence", to enemy fire.
Lololol. It was either “student driver” or a “baby on board sticker”. And we can see which on won out.
The “26.2” sticker saw a 200% increase in enemy fire.
@@b22chris don't shoot we have a [Baby On Board]!
Enemy: Understandable, have a great day.
"The Humvee was fast" yeah, and my aunt has balls
I am dead 💀
Agreed. Very slow. Though, nowadays, ones aunt could have balls.
There’s 1 truth and and 1lie in that scentence
Is 2021, I believe it
Humvee “fast” is hitting 55mph downhill with the pedal to the metal.
😂😂😂
IKR
And making that super loud noise like its about to break the entire time.
Embarrassing driving them on the freeway
I must have been driving them over 70, maybe over 80, about 30 years ago.
Not the fastest vehicles, but they had more than enough speed for normal use.
(Of course, back then 55 was the highest speed allowed anywhere in the United States.)
"LIGHT" ...... Yep, it's American.
Lol
quorented You’re why we can’t have nice things.
@quorented No no no, this isnt your regular light. This is AMERICAN light.
No, a tank is a heavy military vehicle, an APC is a medium military vehicle and an armoured car is a light military vehicle
@@kennooo535It's a long running joke with the Americans. Everything is bigger and heavier than their British and European counterparts. I think everyone gets the joke, except Americans.
Thanks to DARPA and Boston Dyna our future vehicles will be AT-AT’s in 25 years
The AT-TE is so much more realistic than an AT-AT.
Blue team John, Fred, Linda, Kelly sorry to tell you bud, nothing in Star Wars is even slightly realistic.
Scott McLaughlin not even the humans eh?
@@KingLouis420th There were no humans in Star Wars. Humans are from earth not a galaxy far far away.
For the empire, we need stormtroopers too.
Imagine this thing approaching to u at 60 mph and from the distance u see the “Student driver “ plate .
I'd get ready for a jump lmao
Ah the Humvee. Designed in the 70's, built in the 80's and obsolete in the 90's.
*On the other hand *
Ah Toyota land cruiser 79 built in the 70's still the same today.
I love humvees
No the humvee isnt obselete it was forced into frontline roles the humvee was designed for support and troop transports behind allied lines
What's amazing is if you know how to properly drive a Humvee off-road it can go where Modern off-road vehicles either can't or barely can and with out lockers. Then you think yourself wow it's a one and quarter ton payload rated truck? Imagine how great at off road that thing was any 80s compared to other open differential 80s off-roaders LOL with the payload rating of a Ford F-550 what off-road capabilities of a Jeep Rubicon and 40 years old. To this day the Humvee is still an amazing machine
2:00 That suspension is incredible.
I dont trust rubbish air suspension ask any landrover driver, that would be my biggest concern.
@@Revnge7Fold try the citroen ds hydropneumatic suspension wonderful
@@Revnge7Fold it’s not that bad on modern range rovers, e.g. 2019 onwards, I believe that is due to them changing the manufacturing process and just generally the design of the shocks.
@@Revnge7Fold I think it might be a some sort of active or semi-active suspension. Possibly magnetic. Since they didn't want to disclose it, it is probably pretty interesting.
It reminds me of the Bose electromagnetic suspension prototype
When suburban mom's started driving the Humvee to get their nails done you knew it was only a matter of time till we upgraded
🤣😆😂🇦🇺
Looks impressive in many ways, but that weight is scary, 10 metric tonnes :O
For comparison That is closer to first light TANKS. than to normal pick ups.
nah not really, dingo atvs are around the same weight with similar protection level
It's comparable to MATV. Armor is heavy, and is necessary in today's fight
Lol 10metric tonnes is nothing compared to an mbt. If it can protect soldiers lives, then the extra weight would be worth it.
(Well worth it for the country issuing it of course)
@@MazdaRX7007
Yes. I don't know anyone asking for light and fast. We're looking for better mobility WITH extra armor and the ability to mount more sophisticated weapons. This vehicle provides that.
I would not want to patrol in a Jeep.
The Brits learned that lesson in Iraq with the snatch.
I REALLY LOVE COMMERCIALS EVERY 2 MINUTES...IT JUST MAKES THE EXPERIENCE THAT MUCH MAGICAL!
"designed for the European battlefield" 🤣🤣🤣
The Humvee was never designed for Frontline combat in the first place. It was a carry all/ workhorse for behind the lines logistics..🙃
It was a bigger Jeep. I still like the Willys Jeep with the military writing and insignia
With guns and missiles? And why used in Iraq then - as opposed to APC's (M113)? (which is still a serious debate, as it cost many lives)
The humvee WAS designed for the European battlefield.
The humvee would serve on the front lines, in tow anti tank teams, 81mm mortar teams, ambulances, recon and rear area operations.
@@ibubezi7685 m113 is armored against small arms and shrapnel only. The aluminum hull would fold to the tiniest IED.
@@jensdanbolt6953 it can survive anti-personal mines, so not quite the tiniest IEDs (which are more or less anti-personal mines)
I joined the Army in 1986, the HUMVEE was just starting to replace the Jeep. Neither of those vehicles were ever meant to be an armored vehicle. In Somalia we put sandbags in the seat wells and floor boards and called them "uparmored" and the gunner had no protection. The new armored vehicles look great for actual combat use, I hope they keep some type of field vehicle that can be used for basic transporation.
When are we going to get a civilian version?
Lmao I’m dying to know
Waiting for arnold shwarzenigger to buy the first one
Correct me if I’m wrong. I thibk they use a duramax engine which has ceased production. There is a youtube video about it somewhere but I totaly forgot about it.
When they hit the surplus market.
Can you even imagine? Can't even see a compact car in front of it. Just runs over it
As a person who lives in Oshkosh seeing one of these on the road is like seeing a normal truck at this point
Doug needs to review THIS
THIS. Is the all new Oshkosh JLTV. And today, I'm going to run over an IED in it.
lmao, what would its Doug Score be?
I love seeing these things drive around, love the sound and look. Can't wait to see how these do with time
They sound awful inside the cab while running
If it was Lockheed that made it it would have taken another 10 years and 2 billion
I remember reading reviews back in the late 70s, early 80s about the Humvee replacing the Jeep. Same arguments different time.
And the Humvee was much better than the Jeep, too
So are the troops in the field going to nickname it the “J-Lo” ?
Damn that duramax on the dyno was so good!
"Student driver" 🤣
Hey look the Hunter in Arma 3 is becoming a reality
ever heard of M-ATV?
Hunter is Oshkosh matv, not this
The heating and air conditioning have a min of basically an hour bruh id hate to be in there if they go with min specs.
Pretty sure that they ended up using the GMC 2500 AC system. Not for the grunts comfort but for the electronics suits.
In the desert with no AC and windows that small you are talking about an actual oven that you could cook in
Yeah...AC is sadly for the electronics XD
LOVE the student driver on the front bumper !
The MATV saved my life and many other Marines I served with. We had over 70 MATV/MRAP vehicles get blown up during my time in Now Zad Afghanistan and zero deaths resulted from those.
damn bro. glad you still here
But they got blown up. Meaning your squad was combat ineffective. Mission accomplished.
Nah they were just converted from mechanised infantry to regular infantry. Doesn't mean they can't finish their mission.
@@TheRealBillBob better then dying.
not even 20 seconds in am I'm gonna stop you right there chief. Did you just describe the Humvee as fast? What are you comparing it to? A 60 ton tank because even compared to that its not much faster.
Because they added armor that never was forseen for the engine
Steve Loeschke it’s fast when it doesn’t have a hundred armor addons it was never designed for
@@BodilyFunction i know thats wath i was saying
He literally talked about that at 2:35
The tank is faster than the HMMWV actually😐
This is so awesome! The US army wants a better, safer, and more powerful vehicle for their infantry. To get reliable power from the engine they turn to Chevy and Gale Banks, who is a legend in the racing scene. He is basically a speed shop owner however, he is probably the most successful racers in the world. Gale holds multiple top speed records on the Bonneville Salt Flats with diesel and gasoline powered race cars and he still runs a speed shop albeit a much bigger and successful one. This is just an amazing real story of the military working with a civilian racer to make something so awesome.
BTW: the power on this engine is low because it was detuned to run on bad/dirty diesel, you never know what you will get in a plastic jug somewhere in Afghanistan.
The horsepower can be up to 575HP
Torque from 725-900 ft-tq
@@professionalschizo As I mentioned,I didn't know at the time...Please read.The JLTV's I saw were from the USMC.
Also,I never mentioned about the MATV's & JLTV's being the same trucks...Read again.
@@Slim_Slid The Army has plenty of JLTV's. Guess you haven't been to a CSMS.
@@Zanelander Thanks for replying to a year old comment...I already knew later on after that.
They have plenty of them...But they won't be taking over the HMMWV's completely,too heavy and too big to fit inside a C130 or C5 and can't be parachuted out.
JLTV's will probably have the same fate as MATV's and MRAPV's overseas,too costly to ship them back.
@@Slim_Slid It's amazing how riggers are able to load and drop them off C17's.
hope this has more leg room, my legs almost break just from sitting in a humvee #armystrong
it has a hell of a lot more leg room i'm 5'8 and literally slept on the floor of my truck commander seat in afghanistan with my head on the seat and body on the floor
But apparently not that armystrong
Having served AD in the army, this was very satisfying. Thanks
Just what the military needs. A hopelessly complicated engine and a check engine light.
Not to mention this things armor isnt any better then the uparmoed Humvees...its gonna be a mess they will break down in 5 years simple as that
@@kevinbutton4580 It underwent extensive blast testing & met all of the requirements. Is described as "MRAP-like protection." Way way way better than ANY HMMWV,
"South West Asia" why not just say Middle East? 🤔
Because southwest Asia is the correct term.
Afghanistan is not in ME.
Probably racist to say that now
Actually that is a Far East. You can use Google I guess?
@@tonnymalero6316 Far East is China, Japan, Korea, etc. Afghanistan is Central Asia.
The video was very very well done!! Kudos to Military TV!!!💪🏼🇺🇸
I just want to say, as a military novelist, I love this channel! Thank you for what you do.
Published?
@@Locke3OOO Yes, sir! viewbook.at/RampageontheRiver, viewbook.at/PerilsofPerryville
I was in the US Army from 1986 to 1995. I hated the Humvee. It was unconfortable, noisy, hard to see around and a general pain in the ass to drive. I was a mechanic and it was a nightmare to work on them. I'm glad that they replaced the piece of junk.
They (HMMWV) are gonna be around for a long time, given the slowness of the JLTV procurement. The Big Kahunas gotta buy their pet rocks first...systems like JLTV that can actually save lives are lower priority.
The humvee is the crown vic of military
Top comment sit 🫡
I'm not fat, I'm just "light tactical"
So Lockheed has lost another contract so funny ha ha. LOL.
Sadly
Yeah hopefully as a buisness that should tell them where they are weak from and fix it if they want more contracts in the future.
They're already very fucking busy on f35 project and several aircraft weaponry
@@estehtix busy wasting tax dollars that is.
@@FreeNationRadio OshKosh presented a better and cheaper plan/blueprint. Lockheed Martin don't need to low ball bc they work with Navy and Air Force on their aerial components. That's really their bread and butter not wheeled vehicles.
The biggest thing the Humvees missed was armour plating on the floor. A lot of units made up their own. Mind you go over a 500lb IED in an APC it’s academic.
There's so many cool features not covered here, this vehicle is amazing
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@@dj_vanx go to Brazil
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The first 7 seconds of the clip had me cringing.
The inside of that humvee feels like a washing machine driving that fast lmao
It’s actually really solid. Just took the OPNET course for this thing in Ft McCoy
It's starting to be cringe saying things are cringe
light tactical vehicle?... sure....... this monstrosity reminds me "The pentagon wars" movie
Pentagon Wars is a satirical movie and should not be taken as fact. The JLTV is a pretty sick truck.
@@IAreAndre
The JLTV is a piece of junk that is getting replaced in 2022
@@thespectator5259 a prototype piece of shit that's not going to replace it hey, what did you think?
Lol " You know Bob it needs...."
@@thespectator5259
There will be a new competition in 2022
Im hoping they consider the Textron Humvee SCTV, Australian Thales Hawkei and British Foxhound
I like the “Student Driver”. Where can I find that driving school? I’d like to enroll and practice on their JLTVs. 😁
I enjoy driving hmmwvs but they're pretty faulty and rough to ride in. They handle mud pretty well unless it has that bolt on armor kit then it was like driving an f250 with a go kart motor.
So basically the US Millitary is now buying pimped out tactical chevy Silverados with air suspension, that's freakin awesome 👍.
Probably based on a super duty Ford. It is Oshkosh after all.
If this isn't under my Christmas tree I'm gonna cry.
Why? Its junk
3:18 when we put lowrider into war
i don't know who does this video, but they gave all the facts an none of the bullcrap that other chanels give. thanks
USA: builds different vehicles
RPG: mmm new targets
What in the world.. The Oshkosh I remember made my childhood shoes, they make war trucks now? LOL
You might be thinking of Oshkosh B’gosh. They make children’s apparel.
You're short pants were by Oshkosh b'gosh, this is Oshkosh, builder of heavy specialty equipment for construction and military.
Yah they been making trucks for decades
@@kdrapertrucker the b’gosh is just part of the slogan. But yah my assumption is that it is not at all the same company
And fire trucks
That’s a badass looking ride. Best engine with best trans with the best suspension. I just hope they incorporated the best radiator and BEST AIR CONDITIONER! 😉
I like how they mention 300 something horsepower but they leave out the torque as if the 300 something horsepower is what's moving that big thing around when we both know it's the torque that's doing the work. I hate when things mention horsepower and not torque especially when the torque is the most important part of whatever is being mentioned
So two of these may or may not have been dragged raced down the runway of Al Asad back in early 2015. They were leaps ahead of the Humvee. I never wanted to get into a 7-Ton or Humvee ever again.
Yeah making Humvee so heavy was not only huge strain on the engine but also whole suspension - this actually shows how well Humvee was designed that it did not disintegrate.
I love how everyone in the comments is making fun about America calling this vehicle light.If you saw this vehicle's opponents,you would understand why the US call them light (im mostly referring to the South African Marauder MRAP)
I’m convinced. I’ll take one, need it for my weekend picnics
I’m sorry, but who designed the windows on this thing, they are the size of a postage stamp.
Makes sense for tactical use. In this day and age with the use of IEDs a large window is a death sentence even with the "bullet proof" glass
Someone who doesnt like to get shot.
Windows on rear door being replaced w/ larger windows.
At 5:09 dual turbos on that? nice....
I think all my preventative matinance guys know the Humvee was not that reliable
Except it is. Just because the military can break it doesn’t mean it’s not reliable.
The hummer looks awesome 😎
Damn that turbo sounds fantastic
when it comes to the suppression its kind easy to figure out obviously its not gonna be leaf, air bag or coil.
we can look at it another way it has to be completely independent, height adjustable and extremely rugged and a proven system.
Hint its bean used on tanks it is used on some farm tractors and lots of agricultural trailers are starting to use it. if you still haven figured it out click read more.
its hydro pneumatic
Nope lol. Not really a secret anymore. You can look it up
I want my civilian version now.
Why? Its a piece of junk
There are countless civilian vehicles that are much better options
Ramsmobile RM-X2
Terradyne Gurkha
Karlmann King
Conquest Knight XV
Rezvani Tank
Dartz Prombron
USSV Rhino GX
PlanB Supply Ricochet
Devolro Diablo Tundra
Range Rover Sentinel
Texas Armoring Mercedes-Benz G63 AMG 6x6
Aurum VR10
Roshel Senator
Avtoros Shaman
Inkas Sentry Civilian
Paramount Marauder
@@Colton_Harpole
Wow...a whole 12 likes
The JLTV is a piece of junk...
There are countless better civilian options
And the DoD knows it's junk, that's why they are already replacing it...
The DoD cut the 2021 order for JLTVs significantly and is having a new competition in 2022
The Textron SCTV Humvee kit is superior by every metric at half the price
The Australian Thales Hawkei is far superior
The British Fox Hound is superior
Maybe you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid in public
Tess Stickles bro why are you so upset my guy just wants to drive the car
@@chickhicks8474
Im not upset...its just a POS
@@chickhicks8474
Im only upset how much money the DoD wasted on this POS
How's the cabin space in one of these bad boys? It looks a little tight when compared to a humvee.
More ergonomic than a HMMWV. Way way more.
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Cool! I would like to have such vehicle for my home needs 👍
even though this is clearly more armored and made for war, the humvee still looks tougher and more american. this new thing has alot of sleek looking lines, and doesnt look as beefy as a humvee.
I thought the MRAPs looked puny...until I saw it in person side by side with a humvee. Those things are stupid huge, makes the humvee look like a toy XD
ngl though, humvee is iconic
1/4" steel doors before the 1" armor is added, can be taken off at any time, humvee is made from sheet metal
Since when does looking "good" and "American" win wars? Lmao. Parade general.
People will be saying the same thing about the jltv when they replace it 50 years from now.
This thing aint light it looks like a humvee got hungry and ate another humvee xD
You had me at the Banks designed power train 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
When tested this vehicle has one critical repair every 7500 miles. This compares with 1700 miles for a Humvee. The overall reliability is amazing. The Duramax is a Izuzu designed engine with incredible reliability and Banks modified.
So it is a better off-roader than the hmmwv, has more protection, hopefully isn't a shitbox, and is at least as fast if not faster in most situations. Seems like the perfect upgrade, what are all the arm-chair engineers complaining about?
MUCH better in soft soil (a Key requirement); has "MRAP-like" protection; and can maintain road speeds with a 3,500 pound (4-seater) / 5,100 pound (2-seater) payload with armor installed while towing 11,000 pounds. // Some folks will complain if ya hung them with an OLD rope.
I want the full detailed RC version
I’ve seen these things loaded up on palletized trains for years. Looks pretty impressive.
Anyone wondering where the US is spending your taxes?
There you have it.
Most of it is probably actually going towards the navy and air force as that shit is expensive f-35’s be like ten times your house in price.
bonjour magnifique reportage sur ce nouveaux véhicule JLTV cordialement
The HMMWV was a replacement for the last of the Military M-151 Mutt Jeeps and M-561 Gama-Goats. The first generation of the High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) M998 were an absolute joy drive to use. But after Operation Just Cause in Panama 1989, and the Battle of Mogadishu in 1993. The higher ups were pushing for a HMMWV with some kind of ballistic protection. The first of these had a Kevlar blanket (spall liner) placed into the floor pan inside the crew area and later got bullet resistant glass in modified doors designated as the model XM-1114. This was fine since the frame and 6.2 diesel engine could handle the extra weight. However with the addition of heavy plate armor package and equipment the HMMWV became so overweight that the frame and engine were having a lot of trouble. That and the fact that the HMMWV was not Mine-Resistant lead to the creation of the Oshkosh (JLTV) M-1278. These two vehicel's are basically Apples and Oranges, one can not fairly compare the two.
5:14 and tuned to boot!! I'll take 2
5:48 "Oh look a penny!"
I love the bottomless pit the U.S calls a defense budget.
There is not budget the limit does not exist babe
hi M D T...
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why comment in here about budget currencys...
not important
Things that kill people = BAD Things that help people stay alive and healthy = GOOD
How complicated is the transmission ???
Ty for ur service Humvee's
If this is the light version I wonder what the heavy is like! Lol 😁
i hope arnold love this jltv, so we can have civilian jltv
I want one!... maybe two.
Why?
hi R R...
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better use a R/C hummer-humvee model
OshKosh JLTV needs to be redesigned to look like the HumVee’s iconic styling
Good job 👍👌
funny in europe our new models dont get bigger engines but weaker to save the "climate"
Lol, I feel like only civilians are forced to watch the climate, the military gets a free pass.
But if shit hits the fan, I'd want a big engine to get me out of there fast and still have the armor
Which ones?
@@Jan_372 He probably means the Puma, wich has a 11 liter diesel, compared to the Marders 22,6l diesel, but the Pumas engine acutally is more capable than the Marders, producing 1090hp, compared to 600hp from the Marders engine. He may also mean the Fennek, wich has a 240hp, wich is far less than the Luchses 390hp, but the fennek is a smaller vehicle, wheighing 9 tons less than the luch. The Fennek has more hp per ton than the luchs.
All in all european "light" vehicles get smaller and lighter then their predecessors, but that has nothing to do with saving the climate, but with the fact that symmetric combat between nations is far less likely than assymetrical combat, were small, agile vehicles are better suited than heavy vehicles.
One has to keep in mind that almost all european military vehicles that are being replaced were desinged with a war against russia in mind, so they are desinged to fight a superior enemy, not terrorists with rpgs that use guerillia and hit-and-run tactics.
@@thoughtfox2409 No one in EU would have created a wheeled general purpose vehicle with over 10t weight empty. That thing would be swallowed in any soft terrain in an instant.
Ok but does it have Air conditioning?...
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