We invaded Iraq in HMMWVs with canvass doors. We’d lose 2-3 trucks a week from RPGs, IEDs, or heavy MG fire. We were constantly low on tires, with 2-3 trucks inop at any given point for lack of tires. We’d manage to “procure” (steal) tires from the apron at Al Asad Air Base, only to go out that night and have them get all shot up. We used confiscated money to pay an Iraqi iron worker to fasten doors, floor panels, and ramming bumpers out of 1/4 steel and we did use sandbags as well. We tested the steel and an M4 round would penetrate it, but the AK wouldn’t because of bullet tumble. It was better than the canvass that offered us nothing. We got one up-armored HMMWV about a month before our year long tour was up.
Should have just switched to Toyota hyflux.indestructible and millions of spare parts lieing around. U mean to tell me America spent 110 billion a year on a not even a real war,and they didn't have the logistics and supply to maintain and refit their equipment? Or replace all their equipment.where exactly did the 10 billion a month for more than 15 years go? 10 billion a month to maintain a 50,000 strong army.thats $200,000 per soldier per month spending. Can u imagine if Isis had that kind of funding? I mean u think about it 110 billion a year is literally the GDP of Iraq, Instead of bombs u might as well just airdrop pallets of money everyday from c130 Globemasters,at least the Iraqis would prosper and their economy would boom. Iraq and Afghanistan might become wealthy and prosperous and they might even stopped fighting each other.....notice how rich countries are seldom at war because they have a stake and interest in the country and want to protect their assets and property?they are less likely to pick up arms and form terrorists groups?
@@StreamSonic @ china has far better drones than those which were left in Afg for the Afg Army (Scan eagle)... You can say Iranians got the real Big deal drone when they hacked & landed one of the USA drone on their Runway safely & then Barak Obama was asking Iranians to please handover our drone 😂 but it was top notch drone at that time (not really an elite type but it was secretive & important piece of hardware at that time),, technology is moving really fast & it's outdated by today's standard so it's not anymore an important hardware but it will do the job for Iranians, they already reversed engineered that drone but to what extent, I'm not sure Abt that...
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
The humvees have been in the army museum already. They have been replaced by the GD made Cougar HH 4x4, which are now used on streets in Kandahar by the talibans.
They are everywhere, people are snapping them up as they go up for auction. I wouldn't recommend people to buy one, they are expensive to maintain, and as noted there isn't much room inside for such a big vehicle, but if they are running, you can't stop them.
@@swatteam2002 It involves more than an engine, which is a general motors diesel, that is a fuel hog, but the half shafts break constantly, the tires wear quickly, very noisy with a fan than just screams when it kicks on. It is cramped and not your normal beater. That said, a lot of people absolutely love them.
It's funny how they talk about Iraq and Afghanistan when all they did was send a lot of money down the drain while Patriotic and heroic soldiers Laid thier lives for nothing
This wouldn’t have happened if that potato of a leader hadn’t withdrew military personnel BEFORE Americans and civilians and hadn’t surrendered a base with a landing strip to the Taliban. Now there’s only one base. God help all of those people 🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
"you can be drinking a cup of coffee going over massive bumps and not spill" 😂 apparently the congressman wasn't being driven by the Lance Corporal Underground or Specialist Mafia
@@Daniel-vq2jg I drove through IED blast holes that blocked portions of roads during complex attacks. Different circumstances I guess. Plus it depends on what models. I drove MAXXPros and MATVs in RC East
I rode in MRAP for my Afghanistan deployment. They felt heavy as fk, and it elicited confidence. We knew we would still get blown to hell by stolen ambulances laden with explosives (which seemed like every other day according to Intel), but we felt impervious to the every day Toyota Corolla. We once had a platoon take a vbid from a Corolla. Everyone walked away unharmed, minus the LT who got stabbed by a bystander while waiting for Quick Reaction Force. We used to drive the MRAP over concrete highway barriers to go against traffic to monitor threat level. I hope our current guys have the same capability out of the newer vehicles in the race to build a cheaper alternative.
Two trillion twenty years and 12k US lives and we barely made it out of the sandbox & Afghanistan has another empire in its graveyard. We shot ourselves in the foot thinking these people ever even wanted us there to begin with
@@iKingRPG One big IED turns your beloved Toyota into a Space Shuttle. I heard that Russians bought some civilian cars for their version of home guards, but that's because they are low on cash and in need of crossing long distances..
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
@@killdizzle It's more about securing jobs for your constituents. The factories are strategically located around the country, to maximize the number of constituencies with economies relying on the defense industry. That means that a vote against defense spending is a vote to close down the plant in your district, and a surefire way to get booted out of office.
It can also simultaneously be the best available choice. Don’t make assumptions without evidence. Is there evidence this was chosen despite there being more cost effective/better performance vehicles being offered?
The Democrats just gave like 200-300 Humvees to The Taliban including MRAPS. They also gave away thousands of Military Firearms, multiple Cessna transport planes, Helicopters, and even a C130. Now they want the taxpayers to fund another useless piece of Junk. Russian weapons are almost 1/10th the cost and are more effective than what Oshkosh/ Lockheed/ Boeing and Northrop Grumman are able to make.
that exactly i was thinking when watching this video i was like "wait, isn't oshkosh is a baby clothes brand? i remember buying for my nephew couple months ago"
My unit replaced all our Humvees with JLTVs. I drive them all the time and I can say they are very cool looking inside and outside and they are awesome but biggest problem I have with it is driving it. The steering wheel is very sticky and has like no power steering.
@@chocolat-kun8689 Its one of those ironies of scale, the more of a thing you buy, the cheaper they get per unit, but the bigger your final price is anyways. Also If a car AC is $100 but you need 5 Million of them for your army trucks then you are paying $500mil just so guys stop whining about AC.
They have them. Or at least they used to. If you are talking about machines to set off buried mines and explosives. They don't use them very often it seems.
The JLTV's are awesome, I've seen one in person, and they are WAAAY better then the Humvee's they are replacing. The air suspension which can adjust your ride height was one of the cooler features.
I'm surprised that the Humvee lasted so long . I test drove it for the USMC back in the early 1980s and I was very disappointed with it's performance .
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
They didnt leave them for the Taliban. They left for the afgan troops and you can see how coward some are and just handled all supplies to the Taliban for their use.
The Democrats just gave like 200-300 Humvees to The Taliban including MRAPS. They also gave away thousands of Military Firearms, multiple Cessna transport planes, Helicopters, and even a C130. Now they want the taxpayers to fund another useless piece of Junk. Russian weapons are almost 1/10th the cost and are more effective than what Oshkosh/ Lockheed/ Boeing and Northrop Grumman are able to make.
I wanted to write how Biden gifted Taliban the humvees but the comment section got it covered Literally man now it feels good to have experts with us in the community.. Keep it up.
I've been all over in these thing, they're overpriced, extremely loud and large. However as large as it is, there still isnt much room inside. Something seriously needs to be done about how contracts are awarded.
Buy yourself a cadillac. HUMVEEs have been one of the most successful programs in military history, much maligned for doing things they were never designed for, but tough and got a lot of troops back in one piece after being all shot up. We have a complete wall in the plant covered with letters from soldiers and their families thanking the workers for getting their sons and daughters home safely. The workers had their own sons and daughters over there in Iraq and Afghanistan so they were more than concerned about providing them the best built truck they could. Were they the perfect truck - of course not, but they were pretty damned good compared to anything else that was out there at the time.
@@rwhunt99 You're not even on topic in regards to my original post, with that said the HMMWV sucks too however at its price and age of the platform its understandable.
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
2:10 An important thing to consider is that you could decrease survivability by adding armor, which makes the vehicle slower and less mobile. Hopefully, they’ve learned from the humvee and added cup holders.
Just to clarify, was the $400k per JLTV the total lifetime cost of the vehicle per DOD procurement which includes all the maintenance and spare parts it will ever need, or the cost of each unit without spare parts and maintenance? MotorTrend reported earlier this year that the DOD does vehicle procurement that includes spare parts and maintenance for the lifetime of the vehicle and that is why the per unit cost seems high upon first glance. It would be equivalent to buying a new car, all the spare parts, tires, and oil changes you'll ever need in one transaction.
Yeah man, vehicles are going to get more expensive as technology advanced. The HMMWV will still be in service for a very long time, but they’re aging, and hardly work as it is now.
Each contract is different, but some do include a certain number of spare parts and any special tools to fix them along with specific training for mechanics to work on them.
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
All of those Turkish vehicles listed either came out a year after the South African inspired US MRAP program was in full production (Which means they just followed suit because the US started doing it) or the US already has something similar decades ago.
I have a great strategy for making much more effective IED protection for serving U.S. servicemen: Keep them at home. The truth is, there's no level of armor or armament that's going to protect a wheeled vehicle from an explosive boobytrap, and pretending that IEDs are an engineering problem instead of a political one is just another classic example of the obtuseness of policymakers, or at least the obtuseness of their PR. The truth is, no matter where you spend money trying to protect servicemen from harm, insurgents and terrorists are going to just look for the next weak link in your defensive posture. Instead, we should be building armed forces designed to protect our own territory, not occupy the territory of places we have no business trying to govern. This strategic stupidity is costing American taxpayers trillions of dollars, as mission creep driven by stupid policy decisions turns what was once a $14,000 utility vehicle (the original 1941 jeep, adjusted for inflation) into a $400,000 boondoggle.
If they could ever keep the damn things running. HMMWVs in the Motorpool are hardly working at all, and I'm very skeptical a JLTV will work better in the long run.
@@jg5001 right. I wouldn't be bragging about having HMMWVs they're literally the last vehicles to leave the motor pool if they leave the motor pool. They got what the military does not want or care about.
Ah AFSC 8115 security policemen, Minute Man security at Ellsworth AFB SD 1971 -72 We had clapped out Dodge power wagons mostly from 1966 -67 . No bathroom facilities on the site , you got one in flight meal and one box of C - rations . We could stay on site 3 days, while the manitance men work on the missile. So yeah.
The thing i dont get is they are building a replacement for a warzone that is getting pulled our of. it'll probably be the case that the next new warzone these new vehicles wont be suitable for
Only the JLTVs are designed with a european mindset as well because there is PLENTY of them in woodland camouflage already. They are built to withstand ANY explosive devices up to aircraft dropped munitions.
I've been in the Army for ten years and had never seen or even heard of the JLTVs until one year ago when I returned from deployment and saw them everywhere on Fort Hood. It was crazy.
“David vs. Goliath”… that is B.S. Oshkosh already makes the majority of the military’s wheeled ground vehicle. That being said if the JLTV is anything like the LMTV or the HEMTT and their variants then I am excited to drive it.
I was in Germany when 3rd Armored Division got the Humvee. It was too big for German forest roads and was as difficult to hide as an M113 (another proven workhorse that was turn in for a piece of 💩). Corporate reps swarmed our units during FTXs and afterwards in garrison asking for opinions and feedback. Aside from being able to carry more “beans-and-weenies” (slang at the time for commissary-bought snacks, which was frowned upon anyway), no one in my battalion had anything good to say about it. And rightfully so. Too big and too big of a profile, unnecessarily restricting roads and trails it could go, a maintenance nightmare because ONLY the HHC mechanics were authorized to fix ANYTHING on it, and a gas hog (thus requiring a larger log chain and more refueling stops). I’m glad to see it go, but I am worried that it is going to be replaced with a vehicle designed by Pentagon POGs rather than troops (think “The Bradley” as the best example of this). I also worry that the army is moving to a vehicle right for the war-we-just-fought rather than the wars in other terrain that we will fight next. Even at IOBC in 1979, we were still taught how to fight WW2 rather that low intensity conflicts.
They have been replacing the M4/M16 for 2 decades now, you really think they are going to phase out Humvees for MRAPS any time soon? Good luck with that lol.
From what I am seeing, they upped their numbers of MRAPs but they haven't gotten rid of their humvees. I would not argue that MRAPs will increase in numbers, I just don't see MRAPS completely replacing humvees. If I am wrong, it is what it is.
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It was loud, slow, too big for narrow roads, too small for adequate protection. I read that Israel was going with Jeeps as they could do more daily things better and leave heavy, plodding vehicle needs to heavy plodding vehicles.
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I drove my share of Humvees while in the military for sure. Without a doubt, it was a very capable vehicle. And had allot of fun in it.. most times. However, for close urban combat and front line transportation etc. on enemy soil, it needed to be exceedingly more robust. Later modifications did help. Let's hope this new vehicle has more of what it takes to save lives of Americans and her allies. Liked the look of that pickup variant they showed a couple times.
These were available in 2000; before we went to fight terrorism. There was factual data back then that the Humvee wasn’t capable of protecting the soldiers inside against ied’s. These “new” mrap’s should have been used all along. That hummer contract was cheap and therefore chosen for our troops.
@@karozans Yup, that bird. They wanted to replace every other jet fighter of the US Air a force with F-35 and look now they placed fresh order for F-15EX and F-16 are still flying high
There’s a difference between a plane trying to be a jack of all trades and a light ground vehicle that’s trying to replace a jack of all trades that replaced a jack of all trades.
@@karozans because the f35 was trying to be the only combat jet in the inventory. Trying to fulfill roles that are vastly different. The JLTV is just trying to be the HMMWV but better. It’s literally just replacing one role.
So a congressman from the same State where these vehicles are being produced is telling us that these vehicles are absolutely necessary and essential for the future of our armed services. And the company that's located in the State that he represents should also be awarded the upcoming government contract. And no one sees anything wrong with this?
@@seankilburn7200Sure we can. If we can afford a war in Afghanistan for 20 years, we sure can afford: stronger safety nets, affordable housing, green energy, a stronger workforce, and infrastructure to name a few.
In the 1940s we did have the Willys jeeps the workhorse of the U.S. Army. We still have this in provinces of the Philippines such as Pampanga, Nueva Ecija, Iloilo and other provinces. Now we have this Humvees so much so it could help a lot in our Philippine armed forces daily operations. Instead, do not let your Humvees gather dust and rust in the junkyard but sell this to the Philippine armed forces.
These are already in use, I seen a Maxxpro hit a IED, I had brothers that were injured but survived, Gunner was seriously injured. But I like the oshkosh over the International
The first Oshkosh MRAP version was a thrill to drive, high speed and smooth ride. I thought the whole cab was too cramped and seats uncomfortable when in your inside with full body armor on. The exhaust was loud (little or no muffling). First gen of anything has it's faults. Second and Third gen the bugs get worked out. I think Oshkosh is on the right track.
I'd wait a couple of months and get the Taliban's input. They may think a softer suspension, or more torque, or a female seeking stone launcher might be a valued upgrade.
Would be interesting to see a cybertruck with thicker steel and a V-shaped hull. The battery alone would add alot of armor if the issue of lithium battery fires could be adressed.
the military economic system is self-replenishing. government pays company to make truck, company pays people to build and design truck, company sells truck to government, and those people who were payed to build the trucks pay taxes and it all just goes back into the ecosystem. You people act like money just disappears forever when you spend it lmfao
@@JustAGooseman what ecosystem? Money doesn't exist, the materials are finite, the resources wasted to create weapons of destruction and tools to facilitate wasteful and useless conflicts across the world. How much of that money do you think reaches the veterans on the streets right now. I'm tired of talking to buffoons who can't conceptualize a world outside of this stupid structure.
400k, like a house, for a troop transporter is a somewhat horrendous price. These vehicles should be considered special force/purpose vehicles more than anything. There is no way to use such a vehicles as a main troop transporter in a potential full scale war.
So you’re putting a price on human life? You don’t think the people on the front lines deserve adequate protection? It’s better than politicians lining their pockets.. plus it’s not supposed to completely replace, it only add to combat capabilities not limited to only SF.
@@bravolegacy8673 Well, sir, you formulated questions but these seem to be rhetoric so it seems to me as if you interprete some things into my comment that I didn't say nor meant. Believe me, I would love the idea that every military personel who is operating in the near east could drive in these vehicles. Because these are small scale military operations this is somewhat viable. I don't think, however, that it is viable to only concentrate on assymetric forms of warware because the main purpose is still to be able to defend your country in case of a full scale war. Imagine the USA would get into a war with some greater power, let god prevent this. Then you would have well less than 1% of your ground troops riding around in these vehicles because they have a cost of a freaking house. So if at all, it is not me putting a price on the lifes of people but the producers of these vehicles who think it is OK to demand 400k for a single vehicle. This is not the definition of an armys main vehicle and this is what it's about as far as I understood.
@@martinmartin6300 understandable, but remember it’s not meant to replace ,simply adds to combat capabilities. The national guard won’t need these if war reaches home because the Humvee is more than suitable for domestic operations. the $400k vehicles are made to deflect the blast of an explosive from below, so they have their role and probably won’t be used outside of that too often due to outside factors etc. if a greater enemy is able to inflict damage on our land then explosives will be coming from above, meaning you need quantity over quality and more focus on air and space superiority is my thought on the topic.
Well I'll tell you one thing I won't miss = the brass from 240 or 249 turret gunner going down my shirt while I'm in the rear passenger seat..... That'll wake ya up in the morning lol
I always get a kick out of how easily the military awards multi-billion dollar contracts as if they were chump change. I realize that there is a need for military gears, but we need to be more selective of where we spend our dough.
military budgets are closed circuit and do not majorly trickle out into the public civilian world. Its also a self sufficient system where the money spent is always just recycled back into the system. There is no reason NOT to invest in your military because it creates jobs, gets your military supplied and you don't hemorrhage money.
You'd be surprised by what mil-spec fatties can do. Especially the unarmored ones. It will pass/climb everything, and not in a crawling manner your usual 4x4 will.
We invaded Iraq in HMMWVs with canvass doors. We’d lose 2-3 trucks a week from RPGs, IEDs, or heavy MG fire. We were constantly low on tires, with 2-3 trucks inop at any given point for lack of tires. We’d manage to “procure” (steal) tires from the apron at Al Asad Air Base, only to go out that night and have them get all shot up.
We used confiscated money to pay an Iraqi iron worker to fasten doors, floor panels, and ramming bumpers out of 1/4 steel and we did use sandbags as well. We tested the steel and an M4 round would penetrate it, but the AK wouldn’t because of bullet tumble. It was better than the canvass that offered us nothing. We got one up-armored HMMWV about a month before our year long tour was up.
At least you had doors lol. We used to take them out to be "faster" at getting out of the vehicle and to point our weapons anywhere while seated.
Should have just switched to Toyota hyflux.indestructible and millions of spare parts lieing around.
U mean to tell me America spent 110 billion a year on a not even a real war,and they didn't have the logistics and supply to maintain and refit their equipment?
Or replace all their equipment.where exactly did the 10 billion a month for more than 15 years go?
10 billion a month to maintain a 50,000 strong army.thats $200,000 per soldier per month spending.
Can u imagine if Isis had that kind of funding?
I mean u think about it 110 billion a year is literally the GDP of Iraq,
Instead of bombs u might as well just airdrop pallets of money everyday from c130 Globemasters,at least the Iraqis would prosper and their economy would boom.
Iraq and Afghanistan might become wealthy and prosperous and they might even stopped fighting each other.....notice how rich countries are seldom at war because they have a stake and interest in the country and want to protect their assets and property?they are less likely to pick up arms and form terrorists groups?
should of been in the iconic willy jeep in vietnam at least you had doors !!! semper fi
@@Alfred.E.Newman we often took them off for raids. We’d drive the truck through the compounds front doors and then dismount and stack up for entry.
Today, yall lost to the Taliban after all that money poored into the war lol
Step 1: Give your humvees to the Taliban
Step 2: Ask congress for money
Step 3: Also give Taliban MRAPs
Step 4: Also give them sausages 😆
Step 5. Also give the Taliban your drones and helicopters
Step 6 pray to God that they don't use those drones and helicopters against you
PLOT TWIST: Taliban selling it to China in exchange for cashes.
@@StreamSonic @ china has far better drones than those which were left in Afg for the Afg Army (Scan eagle)...
You can say Iranians got the real Big deal drone when they hacked & landed one of the USA drone on their Runway safely & then Barak Obama was asking Iranians to please handover our drone 😂 but it was top notch drone at that time (not really an elite type but it was secretive & important piece of hardware at that time),, technology is moving really fast & it's outdated by today's standard so it's not anymore an important hardware but it will do the job for Iranians, they already reversed engineered that drone but to what extent, I'm not sure Abt that...
@@StreamSonic conspiracy theorist🗿
By leaving the older versions of the Humvees to the Taliban…
It's free real estate
Nah, they'll still use Toyota pickup trucks.
@@juanmanuelpenaloza9264 nope
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
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The humvees have been in the army museum already. They have been replaced by the GD made Cougar HH 4x4, which are now used on streets in Kandahar by the talibans.
😄😄
Just saw the taliban riding into Kabul on those $220,000 old humvees
It's Taliban fighters or talibs. It is generally good idea to know who one is supposed to fight.
@@Stroporez
It's actually Talibanannis or Talibanananis
@@sammiller552 The Taliban drive more expensive vehicles than most Americans now lol, your average American doesnt own a $220k vehicle.
There are gonna be a LOT of humvees for the cheap.
They break down to much. Only security companies and other mid-high tier companies will be able to get them.
They are everywhere, people are snapping them up as they go up for auction. I wouldn't recommend people to buy one, they are expensive to maintain, and as noted there isn't much room inside for such a big vehicle, but if they are running, you can't stop them.
@@rwhunt99 engine swap would be a solution
@@swatteam2002 It involves more than an engine, which is a general motors diesel, that is a fuel hog, but the half shafts break constantly, the tires wear quickly, very noisy with a fan than just screams when it kicks on. It is cramped and not your normal beater. That said, a lot of people absolutely love them.
Replacing a fleet of hummers, step 1: leave them overseas to be used by the locals.
It's funny how they talk about Iraq and Afghanistan when all they did was send a lot of money down the drain while Patriotic and heroic soldiers Laid thier lives for nothing
This wouldn’t have happened if that potato of a leader hadn’t withdrew military personnel BEFORE Americans and civilians and hadn’t surrendered a base with a landing strip to the Taliban. Now there’s only one base. God help all of those people 🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
What is patriotic about falling for a lie and destroying another country to enrich evil people?
@@taylorbug9 was 9/11 a lie? Osama bin Laden a lie?
@@SanPot123 it happened but not the way they said it did. You're pretty dumb if you believe the official story.
@@taylorbug9 so actually us sold their weapons to taliban so that later their soldier die with same weapons gotcha
Nobody:
A Toyota Landcruiser somewhere: that's cute
Yea, because that’s relevant lol 😂
That’s comfortable in middle of desert.
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
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@@007supertime USA is definitely not very friendly with Turkey for past few years.
"you can be drinking a cup of coffee going over massive bumps and not spill" 😂 apparently the congressman wasn't being driven by the Lance Corporal Underground or Specialist Mafia
The E4 mafia stays undefeated
Literally the BEST comment 🙌🏽
I was like "a cup of coffee my a$$". We jacked these up in Afghanistan on their "roads".
@@jamesg512 tf. How come I can drive over two foot deep potholes in the jltv without feeling a thing?
@@Daniel-vq2jg I drove through IED blast holes that blocked portions of roads during complex attacks. Different circumstances I guess. Plus it depends on what models. I drove MAXXPros and MATVs in RC East
I rode in MRAP for my Afghanistan deployment. They felt heavy as fk, and it elicited confidence. We knew we would still get blown to hell by stolen ambulances laden with explosives (which seemed like every other day according to Intel), but we felt impervious to the every day Toyota Corolla. We once had a platoon take a vbid from a Corolla. Everyone walked away unharmed, minus the LT who got stabbed by a bystander while waiting for Quick Reaction Force. We used to drive the MRAP over concrete highway barriers to go against traffic to monitor threat level. I hope our current guys have the same capability out of the newer vehicles in the race to build a cheaper alternative.
yep the most BOLO vehicle in ME the vulnerable Corolla!
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must've sucked being that LT
Two trillion twenty years and 12k US lives and we barely made it out of the sandbox & Afghanistan has another empire in its graveyard. We shot ourselves in the foot thinking these people ever even wanted us there to begin with
Heavily armour vehicle scrubs with Toyota Hilux. What a pride of tax payers 😂😂😂😂
They should just contact Toyota, I swear every vehicle that I see in modern-day war is a Toyota!
I think they only want to use American companies
@@iKingRPG One big IED turns your beloved Toyota into a Space Shuttle. I heard that Russians bought some civilian cars for their version of home guards, but that's because they are low on cash and in need of crossing long distances..
@@IonorReasSpamGenerator they’re obviously joking buddy
@@gavcom4060 Nah, he’s not joking. The Russians are broke from corruption
South Africa has decades old experience with this type of military vehicles, look up the Hippo APC
Just buy Toyota Hilux. They're indestructible, Top Gear proved it.
My 99 corolla has 436k miles right now and still runs, just burns lots of oil
Did they try shooting it with rifles?
@@dwaneanderson8039 They dropped it from a building, drowned it in a sea, burnt it, drove inside a house, kept it on a building which got demolished
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
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Osh Kosh defence, classic - I used to wear their denim overalls as a 4 year old
is it the same company?? lol. a friend of mine used to be a cashier at their store. maybe she was also trained military manufacturing.
GOD PLEASE DECREASE GOLD PRICE/
@@stant7122 Don't think they're the same company. Name is just similar because they come from the same town, OshKosh, WI.
@@stant7122 Must be, I underestimated how well engineered those overalls were
that was my 2 year old style!!!!
Note: Osk Kosh is based out of WI and the US Rep is from WI.
Nothing wrong for stumping for your constituents, but there is a vested interest.
@@killdizzle It's more about securing jobs for your constituents. The factories are strategically located around the country, to maximize the number of constituencies with economies relying on the defense industry. That means that a vote against defense spending is a vote to close down the plant in your district, and a surefire way to get booted out of office.
It can also simultaneously be the best available choice. Don’t make assumptions without evidence. Is there evidence this was chosen despite there being more cost effective/better performance vehicles being offered?
The Democrats just gave like 200-300 Humvees to The Taliban including MRAPS. They also gave away thousands of Military Firearms, multiple Cessna transport planes, Helicopters, and even a C130. Now they want the taxpayers to fund another useless piece of Junk. Russian weapons are almost 1/10th the cost and are more effective than what Oshkosh/ Lockheed/ Boeing and Northrop Grumman are able to make.
@@WycliffStudios I wouldn't say Russian weapons are "more effective" in all or even most aspects. They are certainly cheaper though...
@@thespectator5259 S400 is better than any US SAM
Citizens: "we need some kids clothes"
Oshkosh: "I got you fam"
Citizens: "military needs a new combat vehicle"
Oshkosh: "I got you fam"
that exactly i was thinking when watching this video i was like "wait, isn't oshkosh is a baby clothes brand? i remember buying for my nephew couple months ago"
@@rcordh5657 That's OshKosh B'gosh. This is Oshkosh Corporation
@@sarminder4357 Formerly Oshkosh Corporation, they rebranded (again for the 4th time) to Oshkosh Defense in 2019 or 2020.
@@JustAGooseman Oshkosh defense is a subsidiary of Oshkosh corporation.
My unit replaced all our Humvees with JLTVs. I drive them all the time and I can say they are very cool looking inside and outside and they are awesome but biggest problem I have with it is driving it. The steering wheel is very sticky and has like no power steering.
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It's probably the 4wd system... :/
@@chocolat-kun8689 yes
@@chocolat-kun8689 Its one of those ironies of scale, the more of a thing you buy, the cheaper they get per unit, but the bigger your final price is anyways. Also If a car AC is $100 but you need 5 Million of them for your army trucks then you are paying $500mil just so guys stop whining about AC.
I loved driving the JLTVs. The only issues they have are electrical problems and sometimes suspension.
Finally an upgrade. We're going to enjoy taking these from you inshallah.
They need a drone vehicle to drive a few miles ahead and set off any explosives.
Good idea but believe it or not the middle of convoys were being targeted at one point not necessarily the lead vehicle
@@nox_chan that’s why the drone vehicle should be a few miles ahead.
They have them. Or at least they used to. If you are talking about machines to set off buried mines and explosives. They don't use them very often it seems.
@@djp1234 most IEDs are remotely detonated so that would not work lol
@@karozans He's talking about an unmanned Humvee...so it looks like a target...not just an engineer battalions mine removal equip.
The JLTV's are awesome, I've seen one in person, and they are WAAAY better then the Humvee's they are replacing. The air suspension which can adjust your ride height was one of the cooler features.
They look cool…in the right hands.
I’m staring at you Saudi Arabia. Ya’ll got shat on by Yemeni chads.
They look great but are a pain in the ass to work on. And constantly break down.
I'm surprised that the Humvee lasted so long . I test drove it for the USMC back in the early 1980s and I was very disappointed with it's performance .
how so?
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
I drove it for 8 years, and was never disappointed.
@s Rush I don't know anyone that finds Crayon jokes funny
@@Dandan-vf9kr you should put ointment on that burn yankee
Now it makes sense why they left all the Humvees in Afghanistan for the Taliban😂
They didnt leave them for the Taliban. They left for the afgan troops and you can see how coward some are and just handled all supplies to the Taliban for their use.
@@Jack22000 I think you missed the obvious joke he was making
The military version of the classic Jewish stocktake
@@MarloSoBalJr I get it problem is the rhetoric is spreading just to attack a political party but no blame on the Afghan
The Democrats just gave like 200-300 Humvees to The Taliban including MRAPS. They also gave away thousands of Military Firearms, multiple Cessna transport planes, Helicopters, and even a C130. Now they want the taxpayers to fund another useless piece of Junk. Russian weapons are almost 1/10th the cost and are more effective than what Oshkosh/ Lockheed/ Boeing and Northrop Grumman are able to make.
War is Great Business...The Warmongers Profiteer Corporations Love it!
Yeah Business and Corporations protects your own interest
I wanted to write how Biden gifted Taliban the humvees but the comment section got it covered
Literally man now it feels good to have experts with us in the community..
Keep it up.
Yes, it's high time to upgrade. Even the Taliban possess the Humvees now.
Well, Taliban, now, can offer US army to use it for daily combat. 😂😂😂😂
War is not won only with weapon but with courage as we see in Afghanistan and Vietnam.
I've been all over in these thing, they're overpriced, extremely loud and large. However as large as it is, there still isnt much room inside. Something seriously needs to be done about how contracts are awarded.
You are not extremely smart, it's called protection...
Buy yourself a cadillac. HUMVEEs have been one of the most successful programs in military history, much maligned for doing things they were never designed for, but tough and got a lot of troops back in one piece after being all shot up. We have a complete wall in the plant covered with letters from soldiers and their families thanking the workers for getting their sons and daughters home safely. The workers had their own sons and daughters over there in Iraq and Afghanistan so they were more than concerned about providing them the best built truck they could. Were they the perfect truck - of course not, but they were pretty damned good compared to anything else that was out there at the time.
@@rwhunt99 You're not even on topic in regards to my original post, with that said the HMMWV sucks too however at its price and age of the platform its understandable.
@@rwhunt99 Agreed 100%. The job that that HUMVEE was actually designed to do, it did that job very well.
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
Hell We used LMTVs my whole deployment to the mountains in Afghanistan back in 2011, the mobility was great, took it off-road everywhere
This will run circles around a LMTV, with a whole lotta armor.
Will it have more than one reverse gear? To be more in line with the current military strategy.
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2:10 An important thing to consider is that you could decrease survivability by adding armor, which makes the vehicle slower and less mobile.
Hopefully, they’ve learned from the humvee and added cup holders.
Whoever makes these videos needs a raise. Also, do not let them go.
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should create a military version of cybertruck .. cheap, scalable, strong and more then enough distance compared to the use of average MilVehicle 💪
Just to clarify, was the $400k per JLTV the total lifetime cost of the vehicle per DOD procurement which includes all the maintenance and spare parts it will ever need, or the cost of each unit without spare parts and maintenance? MotorTrend reported earlier this year that the DOD does vehicle procurement that includes spare parts and maintenance for the lifetime of the vehicle and that is why the per unit cost seems high upon first glance. It would be equivalent to buying a new car, all the spare parts, tires, and oil changes you'll ever need in one transaction.
Yeah man, vehicles are going to get more expensive as technology advanced. The HMMWV will still be in service for a very long time, but they’re aging, and hardly work as it is now.
Each contract is different, but some do include a certain number of spare parts and any special tools to fix them along with specific training for mechanics to work on them.
They should buy the Turkish armed Vehicle called 'Ejder Yalcin" or "Kirpi" or "FSNN", FSNN even protects you from Chemical attacks. google them you will see why?
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All of those Turkish vehicles listed either came out a year after the South African inspired US MRAP program was in full production (Which means they just followed suit because the US started doing it) or the US already has something similar decades ago.
The vehicle is Amazing and it looks Amazing. Good job Oshkosh!
6:45 yeah Nmesis does carry a rocket launcher :) creative guys on the team 🤣
lmao Nemesis might as well be a JLTV with all the damage he can take
I have a great strategy for making much more effective IED protection for serving U.S. servicemen: Keep them at home. The truth is, there's no level of armor or armament that's going to protect a wheeled vehicle from an explosive boobytrap, and pretending that IEDs are an engineering problem instead of a political one is just another classic example of the obtuseness of policymakers, or at least the obtuseness of their PR. The truth is, no matter where you spend money trying to protect servicemen from harm, insurgents and terrorists are going to just look for the next weak link in your defensive posture. Instead, we should be building armed forces designed to protect our own territory, not occupy the territory of places we have no business trying to govern.
This strategic stupidity is costing American taxpayers trillions of dollars, as mission creep driven by stupid policy decisions turns what was once a $14,000 utility vehicle (the original 1941 jeep, adjusted for inflation) into a $400,000 boondoggle.
they should have the H35 project, spend a trillion dollars and then test it to see if it can drive under the rain. It would be a nice F35 companion
The light tank from the 1930s?
@@kolinmartz Nah, the imaginary companion of the F35 debacle.
@@luiswhatshisname7667 yeah I don’t see an h35 anywhere
@@luiswhatshisname7667 😂
Taliban will love this donation from the US...
If they could ever keep the damn things running. HMMWVs in the Motorpool are hardly working at all, and I'm very skeptical a JLTV will work better in the long run.
@@jg5001 right. I wouldn't be bragging about having HMMWVs they're literally the last vehicles to leave the motor pool if they leave the motor pool. They got what the military does not want or care about.
Nice to see uncle fester developing the military's future arsenal.
All part of the Advanced Design Armament Military System's family.
You mean retired USMC Colonel with 28 years of service……
I’d be interested in comparing resumes between the 2 of you.
A golden opportunity. Make the Warthog already
"These vehicles are great, thank you Oshkosh" - Taliban
yet another quality ad from CNBC.
These things are amazing in North Dakota -69 degree weather. Kept me toasty for midnight shifts staying overnight at nuclear missile silos.
North Dakota, the land of nukes, T Rex's and Native Americans!
Ah AFSC 8115 security policemen, Minute Man security at Ellsworth AFB SD 1971 -72 We had clapped out Dodge power wagons mostly from 1966 -67 . No bathroom facilities on the site , you got one in flight meal and one box of C - rations . We could stay on site 3 days, while the manitance men work on the missile. So yeah.
We need this kind of vehicle the JLTv a dozen like this
The thing i dont get is they are building a replacement for a warzone that is getting pulled our of. it'll probably be the case that the next new warzone these new vehicles wont be suitable for
True
Only the JLTVs are designed with a european mindset as well because there is PLENTY of them in woodland camouflage already. They are built to withstand ANY explosive devices up to aircraft dropped munitions.
I've been in the Army for ten years and had never seen or even heard of the JLTVs until one year ago when I returned from deployment and saw them everywhere on Fort Hood. It was crazy.
Gotta love those government acronyms 😜
“David vs. Goliath”… that is B.S. Oshkosh already makes the majority of the military’s wheeled ground vehicle. That being said if the JLTV is anything like the LMTV or the HEMTT and their variants then I am excited to drive it.
Some of us are old enough to remember when the previous iconic workhorse, was replaced by the Hummer.
I was in Germany when 3rd Armored Division got the Humvee. It was too big for German forest roads and was as difficult to hide as an M113 (another proven workhorse that was turn in for a piece of 💩). Corporate reps swarmed our units during FTXs and afterwards in garrison asking for opinions and feedback. Aside from being able to carry more “beans-and-weenies” (slang at the time for commissary-bought snacks, which was frowned upon anyway), no one in my battalion had anything good to say about it. And rightfully so. Too big and too big of a profile, unnecessarily restricting roads and trails it could go, a maintenance nightmare because ONLY the HHC mechanics were authorized to fix ANYTHING on it, and a gas hog (thus requiring a larger log chain and more refueling stops).
I’m glad to see it go, but I am worried that it is going to be replaced with a vehicle designed by Pentagon POGs rather than troops (think “The Bradley” as the best example of this). I also worry that the army is moving to a vehicle right for the war-we-just-fought rather than the wars in other terrain that we will fight next. Even at IOBC in 1979, we were still taught how to fight WW2 rather that low intensity conflicts.
What did the Humvee replace? The M151? The Land Rover?
@@ganonk79 the M151
@@ganonk79 Jeep
Hummer? Do you mean the HMMWV? Stupid?
Yup learning about that here at ait in fort lee.
They have been replacing the M4/M16 for 2 decades now, you really think they are going to phase out Humvees for MRAPS any time soon? Good luck with that lol.
They need JLTV only for frontline duties, driving around the air base in middle of the US with JLTV is a waste of taxpayers money...
They already have at my base though.
@@seanthe100 They have phased out the humvee? What base?
@@pacowaco9867 Pendleton
From what I am seeing, they upped their numbers of MRAPs but they haven't gotten rid of their humvees. I would not argue that MRAPs will increase in numbers, I just don't see MRAPS completely replacing humvees. If I am wrong, it is what it is.
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It was loud, slow, too big for narrow roads, too small for adequate protection. I read that Israel was going with Jeeps as they could do more daily things better and leave heavy, plodding vehicle needs to heavy plodding vehicles.
Yep same we were given some of these in 2010, I wasnt impressed better off in those Diesel Ranger crew cabs...
I love humvee I’m buying one for myself one day
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I drove my share of Humvees while in the military for sure. Without a doubt, it was a very capable vehicle. And had allot of fun in it.. most times. However, for close urban combat and front line transportation etc. on enemy soil, it needed to be exceedingly more robust. Later modifications did help. Let's hope this new vehicle has more of what it takes to save lives of Americans and her allies.
Liked the look of that pickup variant they showed a couple times.
Ah yes , nothing says America more than overspending on the military
These were available in 2000; before we went to fight terrorism. There was factual data back then that the Humvee wasn’t capable of protecting the soldiers inside against ied’s. These “new” mrap’s should have been used all along. That hummer contract was cheap and therefore chosen for our troops.
You know the idea of Jack of all trades never really works in defence, we have the biggest example in front of our eyes, F-35
You mean the trillion dollar plane that lost every single metric against the 1970s F-16?
@@karozans Yup, that bird. They wanted to replace every other jet fighter of the US Air a force with F-35 and look now they placed fresh order for F-15EX and F-16 are still flying high
There’s a difference between a plane trying to be a jack of all trades and a light ground vehicle that’s trying to replace a jack of all trades that replaced a jack of all trades.
@@kolinmartz Why?
@@karozans because the f35 was trying to be the only combat jet in the inventory. Trying to fulfill roles that are vastly different. The JLTV is just trying to be the HMMWV but better. It’s literally just replacing one role.
So a congressman from the same State where these vehicles are being produced is telling us that these vehicles are absolutely necessary and essential for the future of our armed services. And the company that's located in the State that he represents should also be awarded the upcoming government contract. And no one sees anything wrong with this?
I guess we need replacement stuff considering almost everything got left in the stan.
4,000 HMMWVs...that were considered OBSOLETE for US forces.
I think the terradyne gurkha would be a good addition to the military.
How about we first reduce military spending and the influence of the Military Industrial Complex?
America can’t afford to reduce military spending
@@seankilburn7200Sure we can. If we can afford a war in Afghanistan for 20 years, we sure can afford: stronger safety nets, affordable housing, green energy, a stronger workforce, and infrastructure to name a few.
"influence of the Military Industrial Complex"
What does this term mean to you?
@@Xinyouting RIP George Carlin
@@zlpatriot11 that can all be done without reducing military spending
Good video 👍.
US defence industry : give these humvees to taliban then we'll make new ones for you
Biden : okay
Ya plus Biden would say “huh?”
They were replacing HMMWV for the last decade and a half this is nothing new. Most HMMWV haven't been used seriously for years...
The JLTV for the whole vehicle and accessories delivered is over $1 million dollars now
Sir, we need to turn all Humvee to electric.
But what about EMP?
We'll turn that to electric too sir.
The only force that can send off an EMP is a nuke
So if you have to deal with EMPs, then you have a way larger issue then that
@isaL We are a member of a secret group 😬
You’d need a nuke for that. At that point that will be the least of your problems.
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CNBC loooves updating us on the new developments of the military industrial complex.
Do you not have a relative or friend who you’d like to see continue being alive… Lol shut up Hippy. Go watch a react video, the adults are talking.
In the 1940s we did have the Willys jeeps the workhorse of the U.S. Army. We still have this in provinces of the Philippines such as Pampanga, Nueva Ecija, Iloilo and other provinces. Now we have this Humvees so much so it could help a lot in our Philippine armed forces daily operations. Instead, do not let your Humvees gather dust and rust in the junkyard but sell this to the Philippine armed forces.
The U.S military has already replace the humvee, by leaving it for the Talibans in the Afghanistan
I wonder how many jltvs were left in Afghanistan
The *launch* of the latest armoured vehicles has *blast off* the outdated humvee
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These are already in use, I seen a Maxxpro hit a IED, I had brothers that were injured but survived, Gunner was seriously injured. But I like the oshkosh over the International
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The first Oshkosh MRAP version was a thrill to drive, high speed and smooth ride. I thought the whole cab was too cramped and seats uncomfortable when in your inside with full body armor on. The exhaust was loud (little or no muffling). First gen of anything has it's faults. Second and Third gen the bugs get worked out. I think Oshkosh is on the right track.
The H1 would always be one of my favorite truck
I'd wait a couple of months and get the Taliban's input. They may think a softer suspension, or more torque, or a female seeking stone launcher might be a valued upgrade.
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Nice video.
That's why we have a high military expenditure, no real inovation the military industrial complex charges as much as it can get away with.
Would be interesting to see a cybertruck with thicker steel and a V-shaped hull.
The battery alone would add alot of armor if the issue of lithium battery fires could be adressed.
@@ViolentKisses87 would probably be better to use a fuel cell.
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the military economic system is self-replenishing.
government pays company to make truck, company pays people to build and design truck, company sells truck to government, and those people who were payed to build the trucks pay taxes and it all just goes back into the ecosystem.
You people act like money just disappears forever when you spend it lmfao
@@JustAGooseman what ecosystem? Money doesn't exist, the materials are finite, the resources wasted to create weapons of destruction and tools to facilitate wasteful and useless conflicts across the world. How much of that money do you think reaches the veterans on the streets right now. I'm tired of talking to buffoons who can't conceptualize a world outside of this stupid structure.
It’s like the LLV’s of the military except the Humvess are still made. Also now thsi reminds me to check Jerry Rig Everything’s electric humvee build.
400k, like a house, for a troop transporter is a somewhat horrendous price. These vehicles should be considered special force/purpose vehicles more than anything. There is no way to use such a vehicles as a main troop transporter in a potential full scale war.
So you’re putting a price on human life? You don’t think the people on the front lines deserve adequate protection? It’s better than politicians lining their pockets.. plus it’s not supposed to completely replace, it only add to combat capabilities not limited to only SF.
@@bravolegacy8673 Well, sir, you formulated questions but these seem to be rhetoric so it seems to me as if you interprete some things into my comment that I didn't say nor meant. Believe me, I would love the idea that every military personel who is operating in the near east could drive in these vehicles. Because these are small scale military operations this is somewhat viable. I don't think, however, that it is viable to only concentrate on assymetric forms of warware because the main purpose is still to be able to defend your country in case of a full scale war. Imagine the USA would get into a war with some greater power, let god prevent this. Then you would have well less than 1% of your ground troops riding around in these vehicles because they have a cost of a freaking house. So if at all, it is not me putting a price on the lifes of people but the producers of these vehicles who think it is OK to demand 400k for a single vehicle. This is not the definition of an armys main vehicle and this is what it's about as far as I understood.
@@martinmartin6300 understandable, but remember it’s not meant to replace ,simply adds to combat capabilities. The national guard won’t need these if war reaches home because the Humvee is more than suitable for domestic operations. the $400k vehicles are made to deflect the blast of an explosive from below, so they have their role and probably won’t be used outside of that too often due to outside factors etc. if a greater enemy is able to inflict damage on our land then explosives will be coming from above, meaning you need quantity over quality and more focus on air and space superiority is my thought on the topic.
The Humvee is a beautiful military car, I want it to remain operational for many more decades, and never need to be replaced from the jltv.
Taliban waiting for Christmas when Santa Biden will give them these replacements..
This is awesome! Great video
Civilians: I'm gona buy a Humvee!
Military Vet: Let me tell you a horror story and why you shouldn't buy one.
🤣Civilians are so out of the loop.
Hummer was designed for war… not policing a extremely violent population with road bombs and RPGs
Ofcourse the rep is gonna say Oshkosh is the best option for the recompete... they are a Wisconsin based company XD
Getting ready to fight the wars of 1914-2016.
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Way too expensive
JLTV's are badass when their armor is superior.
Meanwhile, no money for homeless and those in medical need. Bravo America, bravo.
This comment proves you have no idea about us government spending and other internal factors
Well I'll tell you one thing I won't miss = the brass from 240 or 249 turret gunner going down my shirt while I'm in the rear passenger seat..... That'll wake ya up in the morning lol
I’m happy to see the Congress is spending taxpayers money for the American people.. oh, wait
I always get a kick out of how easily the military awards multi-billion dollar contracts as if they were chump change. I realize that there is a need for military gears, but we need to be more selective of where we spend our dough.
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military budgets are closed circuit and do not majorly trickle out into the public civilian world. Its also a self sufficient system where the money spent is always just recycled back into the system. There is no reason NOT to invest in your military because it creates jobs, gets your military supplied and you don't hemorrhage money.
I love military history
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You'd be surprised by what mil-spec fatties can do. Especially the unarmored ones. It will pass/climb everything, and not in a crawling manner your usual 4x4 will.
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