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  • New Battlefield game is playable now, has a "tremendous live service" and has "learned valuable lessons" Let's discuss all of this good and bad from the latest EA Earnings call. Leave a LIKE and a comment, thanks for watching.
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  • @jackfrags
    @jackfrags  29 днів тому +1439

    We used to get a LOT of post launch content in that bf3/bf4/bf1 era

    • @StormFox_1
      @StormFox_1 29 днів тому +2

      Good evening Jack

    • @BungedMcRoryCain-vv4nd
      @BungedMcRoryCain-vv4nd 29 днів тому +69

      Bf1 peak 🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯💯

    • @hotshottakes5975
      @hotshottakes5975 29 днів тому +28

      I been subbed to u since bf3 lol. Bf1 the goat tho. All these new guys don't no what they missed out on 😂

    • @carlthomas99
      @carlthomas99 29 днів тому +5

      I gave up live service games.

    • @Hawkeyej26967
      @Hawkeyej26967 29 днів тому +4

      I hope the campaign isn't antowhite.

  • @Dimacswtf
    @Dimacswtf 29 днів тому +8333

    Remember guys, no pre orders.

    • @paulino58
      @paulino58 29 днів тому +24

      I got that

    • @maximusprimus827
      @maximusprimus827 29 днів тому +26

      That’s not going to happen lol

    • @h.d.5194
      @h.d.5194 29 днів тому +56

      I'm gonna preorder the ultimate edition. I think I get some sort of cool skin if I do that so that seals the deal for me

    • @h.d.5194
      @h.d.5194 29 днів тому +5

      But I want to

    • @GRIZEH
      @GRIZEH 29 днів тому +27

      Yeah I learned my lesson with 2142

  • @MoritzBiester
    @MoritzBiester 29 днів тому +9937

    No pre-order

    • @NickMcMelin
      @NickMcMelin 29 днів тому +175

      Absolutely not

    • @thearmoredman8319
      @thearmoredman8319 29 днів тому +183

      Never again

    • @microwavegommmm916
      @microwavegommmm916 29 днів тому +254

      No matter how much this gets said, clowns will still preorder only to be disappointed

    • @RuaninhoBR
      @RuaninhoBR 29 днів тому +17

      never more

    • @DucK_96
      @DucK_96 29 днів тому +82

      Bro everyone gonna preorder as soon as a trailer drops, like every damn time💀.

  • @Badhero4
    @Badhero4 27 днів тому +1311

    "If you don't like it, don't buy it"
    Words I'll never forget. No faith.

    • @andrew33845
      @andrew33845 26 днів тому +12

      Dutch Van Der Linde: HAVE SOME GODDAMN FAITH!

    • @franciscomendoza2822
      @franciscomendoza2822 26 днів тому +1

      Who said that?

    • @Badhero4
      @Badhero4 26 днів тому +52

      @@franciscomendoza2822 Patrick Soderlund, the then CCO of Dice, after people complained about how they bastardized history.

    • @elkrumb9159
      @elkrumb9159 26 днів тому +6

      Nice Pfp bro

    • @HansKlopek
      @HansKlopek 25 днів тому +8

      Exactly. These companies are too big and out of touch with the player base.

  • @yaseen157
    @yaseen157 27 днів тому +645

    I just want a battlefield game without silly cosmetic character choices. I liked how in BF3 I could clearly tell when I was aiming at an enemy, and what class of enemy I was fighting

    • @SteeleUrMom556
      @SteeleUrMom556 27 днів тому +69

      BF1 was like that as well. It’s way better that way. It actually feels like an army

    • @Vibrant_Frequencies
      @Vibrant_Frequencies 26 днів тому +10

      That's what we all wanted / want bro!

    • @sairamr2185
      @sairamr2185 26 днів тому +49

      Be prepared because live service means more skins to sell. Those goofy ass skins make the money for these companies, look at fortnite and cod.

    • @preoximerianas
      @preoximerianas 23 дні тому +15

      Sorry but immersive character cosmetics died the moment they went with the live-service model.

    • @SteeleUrMom556
      @SteeleUrMom556 23 дні тому +5

      @@preoximerianas Sadly you’re correct

  • @sespa7867
    @sespa7867 29 днів тому +5425

    don't pre order don't trust the creators or trailers

    • @impromptu24
      @impromptu24 29 днів тому +153

      Or content creators

    • @elitecol69
      @elitecol69 29 днів тому +16

      I already pre ordered!

    • @drunkwolf2477
      @drunkwolf2477 29 днів тому

      facts.

    • @smatchimo645
      @smatchimo645 29 днів тому +6

      im pre ordering and buying the OST fight me.

    • @MrDevious239
      @MrDevious239 29 днів тому +15

      True. Very true. After 2024 i will never pre order any game again!

  • @dthendrick1
    @dthendrick1 28 днів тому +1665

    "Tremendous live-service" = "No content at launch and an incomplete game that may be halfway fixed years into its lifespan, prioritizing monetization over gameplay, that will inevitably be abandoned when the game finally gets to a playable state"

    • @A1stardan
      @A1stardan 28 днів тому +149

      Then a post or message saying " we've learned our lessons from the feedback you guys gave us, thank you"
      Proceeds to do same thing again

    • @dthendrick1
      @dthendrick1 28 днів тому +27

      @@A1stardan 100% lol

    • @ImNotFine44
      @ImNotFine44 27 днів тому +22

      @@A1stardanits like you’re reading the future (or the past)

    • @burnsZY85
      @burnsZY85 27 днів тому +16

      The series needs to die if that happens.

    • @whcw11
      @whcw11 27 днів тому +14

      Just a quick reminder that Diablo 2 came out in 2000 and received its last update in 2016 (not counting D2R). WoW came out in 2004 and is still getting expansions. Live service is just doublespeak for lazy development and greedy executives.

  • @kingtorra6955
    @kingtorra6955 27 днів тому +118

    The worst part is him saying, “another tremendous live service.” We already knew it would be a live service game, but what could he mean by “another”? EA has yet to have a single recent game with even an okay live service. He must have really low standards

    • @contrast_editing
      @contrast_editing 18 днів тому +2

      Apex Legends?

    • @connorbranscombe6819
      @connorbranscombe6819 16 днів тому +7

      @@contrast_editingShiiet I kinda forgot Apex is EA somehow, that’s actually a really good live service game, but man it is sad Respawn canned Titanfall 3, and before anyone blames EA, that was 100% Respawns decision, they just really like Apex for some reason and it makes me sad.

    • @HPVideoArchive
      @HPVideoArchive 16 днів тому

      @@contrast_editing no he meant battlefield 2042...so don't pre order.

  • @jacksonwalton7404
    @jacksonwalton7404 23 дні тому +97

    If they reskinned BF4 and added additional content over what they already have. That would sell like MAD. It cannot be that hard.

  • @magurmaas
    @magurmaas 29 днів тому +1667

    Where are the Battlelog era soldiers at?

  • @DenDen_
    @DenDen_ 29 днів тому +839

    “Remember, no preorders..”
    - Recker 2013 probably

    • @baxterstocksandbondsman6321
      @baxterstocksandbondsman6321 29 днів тому +4

      I'm going to preorder

    • @JustARegularPlayer
      @JustARegularPlayer 29 днів тому +18

      "All you have to do, Sgt. Blackburn, is not preorder. Are we clear?"
      - CIA investigator

    • @Hysteria.
      @Hysteria. 27 днів тому +5

      -John Battlefield

    • @patrick7695
      @patrick7695 25 днів тому +8

      "Remember, not preordering is easier then refunding"
      -Cpt Price probably

    • @ashadowinsociety
      @ashadowinsociety 22 дні тому +1

      * Recker accidentally clicks on PRE ORDER *
      "Pheeewf...f u c k"
      - Recker, sometime after lunch in the near future

  • @goinhamftw249
    @goinhamftw249 23 дні тому +59

    Battlefield 3 will never be topped that was the best game ive ever played single player and multiplayer

    • @BavarianTrucking
      @BavarianTrucking 13 днів тому +1

      Yep.. that was such a good game🥹
      Imagine they doing the same thing.. close quarters-clusterfuck and armored kill tank sniping

    • @zeph6182
      @zeph6182 4 дні тому +1

      @@BavarianTruckingWish everyone had kept playing that tbh, BF4 is also good in the same ways

  • @chrunkel
    @chrunkel 27 днів тому +26

    Oh man BF4 was such a great time.
    I know it had a rough start but for me it was my first real Battlefield, so many hours and great moments.

    • @bahozeser3534
      @bahozeser3534 10 днів тому +1

      Yeap. Now its just bunch of limited servers with looping maps. I removed it from my steam library just so I couldn't play it again.

    • @iShowUnusualBehavior
      @iShowUnusualBehavior 9 днів тому +4

      Bad company 2 were the days. I wish they recreated with the bf4 engine/mechanics

    • @jake.907
      @jake.907 6 днів тому +1

      @@iShowUnusualBehavior Bad company two had character and destruction combine that with the grit from BF3/BF4 map style with BF1 environment would be epic.

  • @KillerCurlz
    @KillerCurlz 29 днів тому +1649

    We’ve seen this sort of speech so many times before. Remember to not pre-order and don’t get your hopes up too much, even if they take extra time to get it polished up

    • @alexandercowlishaw
      @alexandercowlishaw 29 днів тому +41

      Yep, swear i remember watching a video about 2042 from Jackfrags starting with the explanation of 'investors call'

    • @Zachy-Gaming
      @Zachy-Gaming 29 днів тому +8

      Yeah they got me real good for 2042 heartbreaking really lol

    • @jordanbomb32
      @jordanbomb32 29 днів тому +1

      Give them the benefit of the doubt and pre-order

    • @Bazster
      @Bazster 29 днів тому +1

      @@jordanbomb32 lol

    • @baxterstocksandbondsman6321
      @baxterstocksandbondsman6321 29 днів тому

      I'll pre order

  • @Sacciuiguai
    @Sacciuiguai 29 днів тому +1427

    We need a BF4 type of game with BF1 environment and mechanics

    • @prodigalsoniv48
      @prodigalsoniv48 29 днів тому +166

      this
      Battlefield 4’s setting with Battlefield 1’s immersion would be peak
      Maybe use Battlefield 3 had a framework for maps too cuz they had some of the best ones imo

    • @brocklytodd5317
      @brocklytodd5317 29 днів тому +34

      Yes but first we need a remastered version of bad company 2 multiplayer

    • @TheAlmightyPrime
      @TheAlmightyPrime 29 днів тому +39

      A game combined of BF: BC2: BF3, BF4, and BF1

    • @ScubieFlow
      @ScubieFlow 29 днів тому +8

      this. yes this.

    • @dongyschlontong-ck5xg
      @dongyschlontong-ck5xg 29 днів тому +7

      And music composer!

  • @VampyKitsune
    @VampyKitsune 25 днів тому +12

    There are too many cooks in the kitchen.
    Fun fact if a cake needs to bake for an hour, it doesn't matter how many cooks you have. The cake is still going to take an hour.
    It doesn't matter how big the team is. If they dont get enough time to develop its still going to be released in a bad state.

  • @jmans56
    @jmans56 24 дні тому +16

    The last good BF was BF1. At this point they should just touch up BadCo 2 and BF3 as one purchase.

    • @UlisesInThisB
      @UlisesInThisB 9 днів тому +4

      Battlefield 5 was good it was still battlefield

    • @wpaoff-road
      @wpaoff-road 4 дні тому

      Agree, BF1 and BF3 where peak Battlefield experience.

  • @jeanadames8230
    @jeanadames8230 29 днів тому +597

    That statement sounds familiar..
    “Those who don’t remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

    • @Soliye.
      @Soliye. 27 днів тому +3

      Like pre-ordering a game in the past decade. Risk money for the chance of getting... Well nothing really.

    • @LtVictor
      @LtVictor 26 днів тому +1

      The people will, like COD fanboys they have no control of themselves. We need the die hard community reaction of Hell Divers.

    • @BS-vm5bt
      @BS-vm5bt 25 днів тому

      The only thing people should be pri ordering is RTS games and turn based games. BG3 was extremely fun even at early acess, the same for broken arrow and homeworld 3. No bullshit micro transaction there.

  • @moritzrossbroich
    @moritzrossbroich 29 днів тому +812

    The tremendous live-service means tons of stickers for vehicles, xp-boosts, weapon charms, player cards name tags etc. etc. This is the stuff that replaces the maps, guns, gadgets and vehicles we used to get. Keep this in mind people. Don't pre-order and be very conscious about buying the game.
    In my humble opinion the fact that the corporate speech of "tremendous live service" and "biggest dev team ever" keeps showing up again and already is a sign to be very worried. I wish for the best but expect the worst judging by how out of touch EA has been for years now.

    • @MajorMalfunctionTV
      @MajorMalfunctionTV 29 днів тому +23

      All they care about is money!

    • @Tyler-ew2mh
      @Tyler-ew2mh 29 днів тому +42

      Exactly. All live service means to investors is $$$$$. To us, it means absolutely nothing. I'd argue that it is only a sign things are going to go bad again.

    • @Krypterium
      @Krypterium 29 днів тому +6

      the more the devs are the more errors and wrong path

    • @bfopie
      @bfopie 29 днів тому +17

      They lost me at live service.

    • @baxterstocksandbondsman6321
      @baxterstocksandbondsman6321 29 днів тому

      I'm going to preorder

  • @caspianconstantine27
    @caspianconstantine27 23 дні тому +6

    This has the vibe of "16 times the details". Remember, no pre order.

  • @RuhDolu
    @RuhDolu 20 днів тому +7

    NO PREORDER for the first time as a owner of all the previous battlefield games

  • @Smokeybonez_7
    @Smokeybonez_7 28 днів тому +365

    Bigger dev teams have NEVER been a good thing.... Just more bloat, confusion and a foggier vision that no one is united on.

    • @Olesa99
      @Olesa99 25 днів тому +6

      That's what I keep thinking, remember battlefront 2 from 2017, worse than 2015's version at launch because of bad direction the team has taken

    • @emsbzrr8024
      @emsbzrr8024 25 днів тому +12

      The real Battlefield devs left after BF5. That's why BF5 was the last masterpiece before this catastrophic woke 2042.
      Woke 2042 is not even a Battlefield. It just has the BF sticker on it, that's it. I played it once then burned the CD.

    • @Smokeybonez_7
      @Smokeybonez_7 25 днів тому +2

      @@emsbzrr8024 I agree 100% man

    • @muninn9674
      @muninn9674 25 днів тому +4

      sometimes there is such a thing as too many cooks in the kitchen, and AAA devteams nowadays echo this remark very very well. more devs =/= better game.

    • @OFFICIAL-H-RUBBER
      @OFFICIAL-H-RUBBER 25 днів тому

      My thoughts exactly.

  • @User-gx3sr
    @User-gx3sr 29 днів тому +264

    Odds are it’s going to suck

  • @Sam-xt2gz
    @Sam-xt2gz 27 днів тому +8

    Ah yes. They've learned from their experience and now they'll repeat it. So:
    - An incomplete game at launch that doesn't get anywhere near its intended release state until a year later.
    And, more importantly:
    - No single player campaign.
    Honestly, I'll just continue playing BF4 until something interesting comes from DICE.

  • @dennisthewalker
    @dennisthewalker 27 днів тому +3

    I remember back then games show us gameplay as trailer and show cases new engine or gameplay features in the video. Everyone will drop their Jaws say "Yooooo thats sickk!" and get all hyped up.

    • @_P785_
      @_P785_ 27 днів тому +1

      Bf1 trailer

  • @Madswiberg
    @Madswiberg 29 днів тому +372

    No! We don’t want a “deeper story” we want a Battlefield 4 part 2. Can’t believe how hard it is to f*ck up a simple game.

    • @metalerocl7
      @metalerocl7 28 днів тому +32

      just battlefield 3 remaster would be better

    • @telephoon
      @telephoon 28 днів тому +31

      So you want battlefield 3 part 3?

    • @FortMinorXFC
      @FortMinorXFC 27 днів тому +13

      wrong. i think in bf3 and bf4 the story gave you a great introduction into the world of the game. in bf2042 you dont even really know who or for what you fighting for.

    • @spinesword9178
      @spinesword9178 27 днів тому +19

      Hell, I'd take a bad company 3

    • @gtfgoogleface
      @gtfgoogleface 27 днів тому +3

      considered one of the main characters of BF4's voice actor passed away, it would be really hard for them to continue that story

  • @korkunge
    @korkunge 29 днів тому +350

    Larges dev team = "to many chefs for one soup" Is a Swedish saying meaning "Less is more"

    • @andreyovcharenko1999
      @andreyovcharenko1999 29 днів тому +40

      Too many cooks spoil the broth - that’s the English version of it

    • @footofgork1
      @footofgork1 29 днів тому +11

      They can have 7,000 people working on it but if the Talent and direction is not there the product wont be either. BF3/BF4 probably had 1/4th of what they had for 2042 (Or the new product) and look at what we got? Apex with BF face lift lol

    • @c4blew
      @c4blew 29 днів тому +4

      Just what I was thinking. The next BF has more Devs than 2042 has players.😆

    • @jdunk6058
      @jdunk6058 29 днів тому

      That's a bingo!

    • @Juhani96
      @Juhani96 28 днів тому

      Not only swedish saying. And i think it means: too many doing one and same thing will ruin the product

  • @Mr_Mike_Hood
    @Mr_Mike_Hood 27 днів тому +3

    Clans playing together is a must! Only 4 in a squad and others not able to join is ridiculous, and why my friends all stopped playing 2042, well, one of the many reasons.

  • @thetestedone4676
    @thetestedone4676 27 днів тому +1

    It would be nice if the different factions actually looked different in game. Instead of everyone looking the same. I love battfield but have struggled to in recent years. Great vid as always bro

  • @danarredondo
    @danarredondo 29 днів тому +425

    Bf3 by far had the best DLCs each with its own theme and identity and the premium edition was very much a great value

  • @luminousbanner9643
    @luminousbanner9643 29 днів тому +302

    As wide as a ocean, and deep as a puddle.

    • @mizarare
      @mizarare 29 днів тому +7

      John 3:16

    • @eltraviesoxiii5190
      @eltraviesoxiii5190 29 днів тому +17

      2042 in a nutshell, pathetic ass game

    • @alicatdotcom
      @alicatdotcom 29 днів тому +2

      *My heart after the last "love letter to the fans"

    • @ChopperMeir
      @ChopperMeir 28 днів тому

      I remember that phrase being used for all of BF1's life cycle as well.

    • @dcpmootown
      @dcpmootown 22 дні тому

      lol true

  • @ushwallman2070
    @ushwallman2070 23 дні тому +5

    Can we get a Battlefield set in 1999? That would be wicked.

    • @park2086
      @park2086 17 днів тому +2

      Devs: “Make sure 1999 does not go into the game”

  • @MrTyTy04
    @MrTyTy04 24 дні тому +1

    These bf3 cqc clips is bringing back sm memories I miss it sm😢

  • @MictlanisWaiting
    @MictlanisWaiting 29 днів тому +125

    This screams "we're putting all our eggs into one final battlefield basket and if this one flops, its over." to me.

    • @prozoomy3588
      @prozoomy3588 28 днів тому +39

      Better to kill a franchise then milk it like cod.

    • @WowAboveMe
      @WowAboveMe 28 днів тому +19

      Damn, it hurts to hear both of these comments. Neither one gave me comfort, but I agree with both...

    • @RobinErik
      @RobinErik 28 днів тому +4

      And it will definitely flop, because their budget or time frame will end before they really hit that nail with the hammer.

    • @HRM.H
      @HRM.H 28 днів тому +3

      Because thats exactly what it is.

    • @simonrodgers2375
      @simonrodgers2375 28 днів тому +10

      If the next games live service, expect it to fail.
      Love service means crazy cosmetics, and crazy cosmetics isn't what the Battlefield community wants.
      Nobody wants to be running around sliding dressed like a rabbit or some bollox.
      EA completely missing the mark with Battlefield fueled by their greed to milk the game for whatever they can.

  • @markshaxted
    @markshaxted 29 днів тому +276

    All I’m hearing there is “ahead of schedule” again… remember the cycle of cancelling support for bfv and putting all studios on 2042 to try and finish and save it and loom how that turned out. Now they’ve ended support for 2042 and have the largest team in history working on the next game. Right now there’s nothing to support the statement they’ve learned anything based on following the same cycle, I’ll expect another disastrous launch

    • @Wolfhound223
      @Wolfhound223 29 днів тому +10

      Yeah I remember that statement, 'Ahead of Schedule' and then added more teams as they paniced ! Wankers, never again.

    • @rileys8535
      @rileys8535 29 днів тому +12

      Size of studio workforce doesn't necessarily equate to a good game either. Managing hundreds of developers requires great managers and it seems that DICE are lacking in that from what Glassdoor has shown.

    • @Mr10johnny10
      @Mr10johnny10 29 днів тому +5

      @@rileys8535 Couldn’t agree more. Bigger teams means more competing visions for the game and more compromises, which produces a bland final draft that has no heart or love in it

    • @baxterstocksandbondsman6321
      @baxterstocksandbondsman6321 29 днів тому

      2042 was supposed to have 4 seasons.... It got extended to 7 seasons and 3 years.. now if you think they kept shelling money for extended seasons at a product that wasn't selling.... Then I don't know what to tell you

    • @BleedingUranium
      @BleedingUranium 29 днів тому +5

      @@rileys8535 Case in point, BF4's CTE was an absolute model of a small group of talented devs interacting directly with the community, and it gave us one of the best time periods in the series. Larger is not better. Larger means design-by-committee and none of the devs being able to be "in charge of" their own area, stifling creative vision.

  • @MrLocke-bk3om
    @MrLocke-bk3om 9 днів тому +1

    Here’s the one glimmer of hope: Vince Zampella is leading Battlefield development. His track record is impeccable and he has publicly stated that he believes DICE strayed too far from what Battlefield was with 2042.
    I’m pessimistically cautiously slightly hopeful.

  • @davidgb291
    @davidgb291 26 днів тому +14

    One of the things I miss from Battlefield games pre BFV is the weapon challenges.
    To unlock a weapon, you had to complete one or two challenges with other weapons and gadgets. For me, that was highly engaging and made me try out loads of different weapons I wouldn't normally pick. It also helped me to find weapons that were ideal on specific maps as well!
    It added another layer to the gameplay. I'd love it if they brought something like that back.

  • @oledonkeynutzmcgee5320
    @oledonkeynutzmcgee5320 29 днів тому +191

    Seeing the bf3 premium stuff made me feel the most indescribable sense of nostalgia and sadness, gaming is never going to feel they way it did for me back then 😢

    • @christianalexandernonis2260
      @christianalexandernonis2260 28 днів тому +12

      Yeah I miss bf3 soo much

    • @ThalantyrBF3
      @ThalantyrBF3 28 днів тому

      BF2 was far superior to BF3. It became too arcadey after BF2.

    • @oledonkeynutzmcgee5320
      @oledonkeynutzmcgee5320 28 днів тому +15

      @@ThalantyrBF3 i didn't ask for opinions, and i especially didn't ask for wrong opinions

    • @Smokeybonez_7
      @Smokeybonez_7 28 днів тому +9

      ​@ThalantyrBF3 BF3 was peak Battle Field. Every single map was a banger. BF2 was great too but BF3 was absolutely insane. If we could have BF4 classes and gear on BF3 maps remastered, my life would be complete.

    • @ThalantyrBF3
      @ThalantyrBF3 28 днів тому +2

      ​ @Smokeybonez_7 Respect the opinion.
      I felt BF2 with friendly fire, the 6-man squads, the fact that you could only spawn on the squad leader which added a huge amount of strategy to the game, no auto regeneration so you needed medics specifically, you had no idea where people killed you from, no markers on your HUD - you had to rely on the Commander to drop a UAV or players to spot and it would come up on your mini map. I think it was the right about of realism in an arcade FPS without being too much like ARMA or COD. It was it's own thing. You couldn't spam grenades whilst your team ran in. Once they made friendly fire non-default game mode no one ever played it and that ceased to exist. Ah, the days :(

  • @EggZema_
    @EggZema_ 29 днів тому +186

    Battlefield 3 was still for me the most exciting time in my gaming experience. It had many flaws, but I feel like that game really left a good impression on many gamers. I remember that I sometimes couldn’t sleep when a new DLC was dropping…

    • @zamasudcs
      @zamasudcs 29 днів тому +7

      2011 i still have the limited edition hard copy that comes with 2 DVDs

    • @jesse76th96
      @jesse76th96 29 днів тому +17

      Bf3 was the next gen leap we want again. Literally magic.

    • @davidlane9724
      @davidlane9724 29 днів тому +6

      Same for me BF3 was my all time favorite

    • @notoc6865
      @notoc6865 29 днів тому +10

      I'm still waiting for that bf3 feel again. And I've been disappointed every time. Maybe it's on me

    • @mexicanofsteel3768
      @mexicanofsteel3768 29 днів тому +5

      @@notoc6865bf3 had more of that realistic sound and feel and atmosphere. I tried to love bf2042 the same but it just feels cartoonish and not as detailed in my opinion so it’s not you

  • @mrxXzekeXx
    @mrxXzekeXx 27 днів тому +1

    Plz just make a BF4 like game this time, and have that amount of weapons and stuff in it. That is by far my fav BF game, i did not play BF3 as much so that is possible even better but i did not play it enough to know. Love the vid as always, love from Sweden!

  • @cromputer9255
    @cromputer9255 24 дні тому +3

    Remember, No pre-order

  • @MTMuppet
    @MTMuppet 29 днів тому +111

    How many times are we gonna do this song and dance…

    • @Red-gp8wb
      @Red-gp8wb 14 днів тому

      Not me, I pre order starfield because I loved the idea of what the game could’ve been. I also preordered it because it was on my birthday but I told myself I will never preorder a game after if this one sucks and I was right.

  • @Framesforgames
    @Framesforgames 29 днів тому +147

    Battlefield was good when Dice/Stockholm was behind the development of the franchise. So when a big EA Executive comes out and tells us that the "biggest team" in the franchices history is making the new Battlefield Live Service Game, well that makes me worried. This spells disaster!

    • @SPECIFICREGION
      @SPECIFICREGION 29 днів тому +5

      Get the Developers of The Bad Company Franchise........

    • @REDtheBEAST
      @REDtheBEAST 29 днів тому +14

      I see "Biggest team in the franchices history" as "To many cooks in the kitchen" quantity does not equal quality.

    • @velaikka
      @velaikka 29 днів тому +5

      ​@@SPECIFICREGIONYou mean people like Magnus Nordin, Rob Runesson, Stefan Strandberg, Patrick Söderlund, Jenny Huldschiner and Johan Andersson. Aka the founders of Embark Studios that made The Finals. I doubt they will leave something so successful to go work under EA's Boot. They left DICE EA after the failure if BFV for a reason and make there own game

    • @STARSRav3n
      @STARSRav3n 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@velaikkathe finals was successful for all of a month. It's hemmoraged 90% of its playerbase and dropping. The finals will be dead in a year without a huge overhaul and likely embark will lose money on the game in the long run.

    • @J-_-S
      @J-_-S 27 днів тому +1

      never liked future touch

  • @psycho7045
    @psycho7045 26 днів тому

    Love seeing all the Bf clips from BF3 n Bf4 the best memories in those games 😎💯✨. We all miss n love a true Battlefield game

  • @juniorjr4815
    @juniorjr4815 21 день тому

    Thanks as always for the info Jack.

  • @ALC570
    @ALC570 29 днів тому +120

    It’s so great that rather than addressing the community’s very clear issues with 2042, they choose to reassure us by saying “don’t worry we plan on copying Activision’s business model.”

    • @LiamPattisonPhotography
      @LiamPattisonPhotography 29 днів тому +22

      It’s comedic how out of touch EA and BF seem at every single turn. I hope I’m proved wrong but I have zero faith in them to give us a solid game.

    • @coolhwhip86
      @coolhwhip86 29 днів тому

      They will copy something else stupid like Tarkov or helldivers. They dont give a flying FK about what the community wants. Battlefield is DEAD.

    • @cloudburstdrones
      @cloudburstdrones 27 днів тому +3

      @@LiamPattisonPhotographythey don’t care. They’re following numbers

  • @-Luke--hn5uv
    @-Luke--hn5uv 29 днів тому +265

    Literally all they have to do is make the next game like BF3 or BF4. Modern day, realistic normal soldiers, no specialists, classic class system, and good maps. This is all fans have ever wanted.

    • @TedBrogan
      @TedBrogan 29 днів тому +25

      Bingo. If I have to play the way some nerd designer's idea for a "cool specialist" forces me to play because of equipment limitations or special 'powers', I'm out. No thanks. Next please. There are literally HUNDREDS of those games in the market already.

    • @KevKlopper
      @KevKlopper 29 днів тому +33

      They proabably gonna be all purpled haired with superpowers.

    • @chazhartwayne6493
      @chazhartwayne6493 29 днів тому +13

      Bfv mechanics tbh, too. Reinforcements, the movement and the rebuild cover feature were great

    • @flamingteabag4572
      @flamingteabag4572 29 днів тому +5

      Does EA care about fans? They want a mass appeal game that will pull in cash like Fortnite. That's all Live Service means these days. What the dev team wants is further down the list. MP games are in a sad state

    • @TedBrogan
      @TedBrogan 29 днів тому +4

      @flamingteabag4572 I don't disagree, but this statement has been made for years now. Just gotta hope some segment of the people making this statement overlaps with those who can make a difference at the higher levels.

  • @ArouzedLamp
    @ArouzedLamp 25 днів тому +2

    If they carry over any game play elements from 2042, I hope they keep the weapon mod toggle system. That was hype. Also keep the dynamic/drastic weather changes - but make them less often.

  • @sunbear76re
    @sunbear76re 26 днів тому +4

    Never buying another battlefield, this better be free to make up for the last pre order

  • @CryoticFlame
    @CryoticFlame 28 днів тому +43

    NO Preorders! Dice and EA needs to earn our loyalty again!

  • @paulster7754
    @paulster7754 9 днів тому +2

    "cutting edge frostbite" is like saying, "cutting edge stone age tech"

  • @D0N0745K
    @D0N0745K 17 днів тому

    In battlefield 1 the battle came to you, in battlefield 5 I feel like I had to constantly search for the frontline in order to have any amount of fun

  • @robocop0211
    @robocop0211 29 днів тому +120

    BF3 dlc was the absolute peak of post launch content for the series. It almost felt like a new game was coming out each time

    • @alicatdotcom
      @alicatdotcom 29 днів тому +9

      Facts.

    • @lamontcranlc
      @lamontcranlc 29 днів тому +12

      Best maps.. how far we've fallen

    • @OD427
      @OD427 29 днів тому +12

      @@lamontcranlc bro the cqb dlc was literally peak

    • @remcodesouza
      @remcodesouza 28 днів тому +5

      Tour Ziba ❤️

    • @moelester3758
      @moelester3758 28 днів тому +2

      @@OD427 Nah, Aftermath was.

  • @XVIIProveidence
    @XVIIProveidence 28 днів тому +175

    Honestly, looking back at old BF season passes made me realise just how much of a dive in quality the BF franchise has gone through since the live service models implementation, like even the artwork for the individual packs brought back so many memories and the quality and value of each pack was so far ahead of what we've had since. ( the only exception being the Pacific front in BF5, they popped off with that)

    • @Mrchungus11C-OIR
      @Mrchungus11C-OIR 27 днів тому +5

      They will never do it again. They are a profit driven company not one made to make enjoyable products. You can either reminisce bout the good ole days or graduate to adult shooters. Because battlefield will never come back.

    • @ZetsuboNoShima
      @ZetsuboNoShima 27 днів тому +1

      @@Mrchungus11C-OIRare there any “adult shooters” currently on consoles? I’d love to play something like arma or squad but I sadly don’t have a PC

    • @NoKizzyKalebLive
      @NoKizzyKalebLive 27 днів тому +1

      ⁠@@ZetsuboNoShimaArma Reforger

    • @Mrchungus11C-OIR
      @Mrchungus11C-OIR 26 днів тому +2

      @@ZetsuboNoShima yes Arma reforged and he’ll let loose. I haven’t turned on bf since I upgraded to the x and could play those games

    • @cyberus2032
      @cyberus2032 26 днів тому

      @@ZetsuboNoShimainsurgency: sandstorm is good if you haven’t tried it yet

  • @defibrillator7142
    @defibrillator7142 22 дні тому +1

    I'm so glad you made this video. I really hope they see it and listen to it and listen to it closely. Because I tried to love this latest title, and I just couldn't. I felt robbed and definitely lied to. No cinematic or gameplay trailer that they release will be trusted from my end. And if it's lacking in content at all when comparing to BF3 and 4 as you did here, then I'm not spending anything on this game regardless of how good it looks and plays. I don't wanna jump into this next game with only 20 weapons and 5 maps... and hardly anything for vehicles. And it needs to feel and sound immersive when I play it. Not fast-paced like cod and apex.

  • @pulkitsingh6083
    @pulkitsingh6083 День тому +1

    "No pre-order" and "no fucking death threats to devs 💀🏴‍☠️"

  • @jeremyp5210
    @jeremyp5210 29 днів тому +195

    Anymore, it's just corporate talk to me. I miss when devs were gamers first and business last.

    • @LiamPattisonPhotography
      @LiamPattisonPhotography 29 днів тому +8

      So much corporate bs washing out games these days, BF included. I understand why but very disappointing. Makes you feel like we’ll never get a BF game that’s truly made for us again.

    • @mathijs1345
      @mathijs1345 29 днів тому +2

      You have you play indie games then

    • @user-lp5wb2rb3v
      @user-lp5wb2rb3v 29 днів тому +1

      @@mathijs1345 literally, there are so manny good indie games, and there is so much advancement in tech/ software making it easier for indie devs

    • @jeremyp5210
      @jeremyp5210 28 днів тому

      @mathijs1345 best thing about the indie game scene is I feel it hasn't even peaked. It's only getting better.

    • @pkmachinegun
      @pkmachinegun 28 днів тому

      This.

  • @treasuregold9866
    @treasuregold9866 29 днів тому +103

    Nothing they say means anything anymore

    • @vw2rover
      @vw2rover 29 днів тому

      It’s as if Biden runs EA

  • @Ryan-cv9me
    @Ryan-cv9me 25 днів тому +1

    BF3 and BF4 is still a lot of fun. Would love to see 10+ BF3 servers consistently full again.

  • @MovinOG
    @MovinOG 29 днів тому +59

    having a larger team doesn't necessary mean it will be better because everyone has different vision per person, what matters is the commitment. Remember to not pre-order.

    • @somethingawesome1462
      @somethingawesome1462 28 днів тому

      2042 had the largest dev team at the time and scrapped the single player…

  • @RageQuittersUKOfficial
    @RageQuittersUKOfficial 29 днів тому +39

    Seeing that BF3 footage brings back so many good memories. It still holds up today.

    • @R0d_1984
      @R0d_1984 27 днів тому

      Haven't played since BF3.

  • @ChrisSprenger.
    @ChrisSprenger. 26 днів тому

    This was my fav update. The naval one or w.e and then everyone storming the carrier after your win the check points, had so much fun in the tunnel of death. Only some will know what im Talking about

  • @TasteTheFail
    @TasteTheFail 25 днів тому

    bf3/4 and hardline were the golden era in my opinion :( loved it so much and still hopping on bf4 every now and then

  • @tomd7841
    @tomd7841 28 днів тому +217

    BF3/BF4 was peak battlefield. Not just because near future lends itself more to interesting weapons and mechanics than the other game periods, but also the map design and decoration was great.
    Most of the maps had good layouts that for really fun attacking and defending, but also felt like real places in the midst of a war. 2042 maps look like pristine paintball arenas, no thought goes into how you could provide cover and interesting flanks while still making it look realistic and natural, so it ends up in this weird limbo between stadium hero shooter and immersive battlefield simulation

    • @fingereze7202
      @fingereze7202 28 днів тому +1

      Spot on.

    • @hsrocha2479
      @hsrocha2479 28 днів тому +45

      BF1 was peak battlefield.

    • @darleschickens3726
      @darleschickens3726 27 днів тому +5

      I'd love it to go back to BF3/4 feel, gameplay and maps were amazing. Plus levelution was amazing.

    • @Ill06Taco
      @Ill06Taco 27 днів тому +4

      Everyone wanting BF4 and talking about it in past tense when you can actually buy and play this game right now

    • @LigMaBaIIz
      @LigMaBaIIz 27 днів тому +2

      @@Ill06Taco how full are the servers? Been spending time on BFV nowadays. Pretty good so far

  • @mg9577
    @mg9577 28 днів тому +40

    The amount of nostalgia i got from seeing BF3 and BF4 😢 thats my saturday night sorted

  • @seitoru
    @seitoru 26 днів тому

    I was actually very disappointed with the new live service style of updating the game, as well as the lack of the good ol' premium for the game. Thank you for giving me better perspective over these two systems and how they affect the game, these are actually the points I needed to hear.

  • @valentinschreyl8220
    @valentinschreyl8220 20 днів тому +1

    The franchise peaked with Battlefield 3. All that's left of the franchise is a shell of the former self.
    Battlefield 3 was the GOAT & great at continuously providing the community with quality content.

  • @EhEhEhEINSTEIN
    @EhEhEhEINSTEIN 29 днів тому +51

    If Andrew Wilson likes it, you know it's time to run for the hills. That guy is a corpo zombie overlord from the depths of gamers worst nightmares.

    • @TedBrogan
      @TedBrogan 29 днів тому +1

      If he's a corpo zombie then what else would you expect him to say to investors about it? It's a nothing-burger comment, both for us and for investors.

  • @cannibalchicken8454
    @cannibalchicken8454 29 днів тому +116

    I’m not getting any hopes up

  • @desmoniale
    @desmoniale 26 днів тому

    The new battlefield has to be build around a Battle Royale mode, in my personal opinion.
    I think what people wants, is something unique, a match that can stay in our memories and being part of our STATS.
    I barely remember any arena, big map multiplayer match but I remember some crazy win in battle royal, just because BR is a much stronger experience.
    Love battlefield, I still remember my first kill on battlefield bad company 2, it was my first kill on a multiplayer game on PS.
    Before i use to play wolfteam on PC.
    Thanks Jack, big fan from Italy 🇮🇹

  • @Hawkinson88
    @Hawkinson88 27 днів тому

    I wish the community could rally around the older games occasionally. I'd love to go back and play some BF3 or 4 with numbers like they deserve.

  • @stickergamer
    @stickergamer 29 днів тому +96

    People in the comments: Remember, no pre-orders
    People when Battlefield is announced: * immediately pre-order *

    • @firstlast6226
      @firstlast6226 29 днів тому +8

      Every single time

    • @agentjohnson3973
      @agentjohnson3973 29 днів тому +3

      It would be better if nobody even buys the game. But consumerism has gamers by the throat.

    • @Saduga
      @Saduga 28 днів тому +3

      they'll offer some skins that will make you feel good and preorders will flow...

    • @JerryCanTheThird
      @JerryCanTheThird 28 днів тому +5

      Nope. Skipped BF2042 entirely. Got BFV right as the hype for BF2042 was ramping up for 5 or 10 USD. Thats the way to go, buy the last title right as the marketing push for the next one starts. The game is fixed, heavily discounted, lots of content and if its a good game it will have a healthy player base.

    • @Culture1911
      @Culture1911 28 днів тому +2

      I'm not one of them

  • @ImmersiveGameplay123
    @ImmersiveGameplay123 29 днів тому +116

    This will be the make or break of the battlefield series

    • @KaiFlixProductions
      @KaiFlixProductions 29 днів тому +49

      The franchise is already fried buddy where you been?

    • @shinigami891
      @shinigami891 29 днів тому +4

      I want to hold my hopes high, but its hard when they are at rock bottom...

    • @impala65ss
      @impala65ss 29 днів тому +9

      I'm afraid it's to late.

    • @juniorramirez3858
      @juniorramirez3858 29 днів тому +5

      Ur giving them another shot 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂

    • @MrSurrealKarma
      @MrSurrealKarma 29 днів тому

      @@KaiFlixProductions
      After one failure?

  • @THEDAVILAK1
    @THEDAVILAK1 9 днів тому

    I remember the goosebumps that Aftermath gave me when it was released.
    I really really really feel bad who did not experience BF3‘s prime days.
    IMMERSION

  • @sergie2822
    @sergie2822 2 дні тому +1

    If it's another hero specialist shooter, I'm just gonna ignore it. I miss the nameless, uniformed soldier.

  • @leonciesla5456
    @leonciesla5456 29 днів тому +20

    We really took BF3 Premium for Granted

  • @advan2985
    @advan2985 29 днів тому +20

    Battlefield premium also gave you the QUALITY. That’s the biggest thing to me. It gave you so much more than these live service and almost all of it is QUALITY. 1 map is not NEARLY enough if it isn’t quality.

  • @peigen7151
    @peigen7151 27 днів тому +1

    I've just recently played BF2042 for the first time and yea it still has a lot of major issues. But one thing I really hope they continue is keep bringing the good maps from old BF games. For me it's the most defining factor on how good a BF game is (BFV has terrible maps all around).
    Playing Bad Company 2 maps like Valparaiso and Atacama Desert is just so much fun. And the BF3 Caspian Border is so much better than the BF4 version.

  • @pulkitsingh6083
    @pulkitsingh6083 День тому +1

    Games trailer and teaser -> 🗿
    Games on release -> 😶‍🌫️

  • @kevinj834
    @kevinj834 29 днів тому +39

    Thanks for keeping us up to date on BF news. I'm not playing right now but I really want a good BF game again

  • @dominator683
    @dominator683 29 днів тому +22

    I have 0 hope for the greedy devs to make a good BF again. Hopefully have new devs that actually play the game

    • @STARSRav3n
      @STARSRav3n 29 днів тому +3

      When they moved zampella over to lead dice i lost all hope. Zampella admitted that loot boxes and collection events in apex were him and respawn, not EA, and they never went back and made any if it earnable or remotely affordable. It was all whale hunting so I have zero hope for the next bf game and zampella can go gob a knob

  • @meh_tr0
    @meh_tr0 4 дні тому

    I would agree with you about premium being bad because after a few months not being able to get into a game in the new expansion BUT after revisiting BF1 a lot of the maps im playing ARE THE DLC where i have to go out of my way to play a vanilla map

  • @tr1ppyh1ppy
    @tr1ppyh1ppy 19 днів тому +1

    buying a ps4 to play BF4 again i miss that game so much it needs a remaster with no cod gimmicks

  • @Ask3lad
    @Ask3lad 28 днів тому +16

    BF4 Naval Strike was GOATED

  • @thechef19791
    @thechef19791 12 днів тому +1

    All they need to do, is start with Bf4 format, upgrade graphics, new maps but keep it all based on current weapons and vehicles. Also, have some airplanes that can have 2 players operate it.

  • @PrinceZiim
    @PrinceZiim 16 днів тому

    They better bring back the badass story mode that they used to have, as well as a coop story sort of like bf3 had, loved that mode, they could definitely expand on it

  • @ThalantyrBF3
    @ThalantyrBF3 28 днів тому +77

    I've pre-ordered and played every BF game since BF1942, many, many moons ago. None of them have come close to BF2 to date. The default friendly fire, no kill cam, no auto regeneration, no HUD spotting was the pinnacle of the series. It positioned itself between something like ARMA and COD. Since then it's slowly shifted towards COD and they've lost their place. RIP.

    • @cthebuff9716
      @cthebuff9716 28 днів тому +13

      Fully agree, BF2 was the pinnacle of the series. BF3, BF4 and BF1 have come close (and arguably surpassed it atmospherically in BF1), but never beat it in sheer gameplay, skill and coordination. Everything after BF1 was an abomination and nothing less than raw disrespect to the community 😤

    • @R0d_1984
      @R0d_1984 27 днів тому +1

      Yeah, there were things i liked about BF3 though, BF3 was the last BF for me, I really miss BF2; Played ALOT of America's Army pre v3, preferred that over the Over FPS shrug.

    • @damp2269
      @damp2269 26 днів тому +2

      imo BFBC2 was the peak. meaningful destruction, tailor made maps for rush, the right balance of gritty and whimsical.

    • @ThalantyrBF3
      @ThalantyrBF3 26 днів тому +1

      @@damp2269 I know a lot of people really liked BC2 and the destruction was pretty cool, but I felt like the Rush gameplay was miles away from what I wanted from a BF game. The maps were so thin and you'd just run a quad bike straight down the middle, hop off and hope you didn't die. That gameplay didn't work for me. Each to their own though.

    • @damp2269
      @damp2269 26 днів тому

      @@ThalantyrBF3 i get it. what i like is that there is a battle line, you can usually tell where the enemy is coming from, conquest usually devolves into madness really quickly although some maps are better than others for either game mode.

  • @OregaNoah
    @OregaNoah 29 днів тому +63

    They're going to have to knock it out of the park

    • @mystery3855
      @mystery3855 29 днів тому +10

      I really doubt they will, but I will love to be proven wrong🙏🙏

  • @lebozo869
    @lebozo869 25 днів тому

    Would be nice to see a return to having a single-player campaign. One of my biggest gripes with 2042 was that they set up some huge potential for a compelling story, and then completely omitted any real possibility of such.

  • @noahcox5911
    @noahcox5911 24 дні тому

    no pre order we will wait and see.

  • @thewanderer6984
    @thewanderer6984 29 днів тому +25

    I miss the premium pass model, so much content
    While now we only get less than what we use to get

  • @bbaron1
    @bbaron1 29 днів тому +12

    it would literally be so easy for them. just make it like bf3 and bf4. thats all we ever want. no heros, no weird fancy half future. people just want to be a grunt in a large battle with their favorite recognizable guns and vehicles, thats all

  • @hoodedr6
    @hoodedr6 19 днів тому

    Damn I remember BF1, I have never felt so immersed in a war than with that game. Was just incredible

  • @FKA_Skull
    @FKA_Skull 12 днів тому

    The only thing that would recapture my interest is the announcement they’re going back to the Battlefield Premium model. Several 4 map DLCs released over a 18 month period for $50, no other monetization planned.

  • @KURUZU43
    @KURUZU43 29 днів тому +14

    I 100% agree with you Jack. Maps and weapons are the two most important things you must have in abundance in a FPS game! The other element would be the destruction because it's Battlefield right? Those three elements in previous Battlefield titles is what made the franchise great Maps, weapons, destruction. Battlefield is supposed to be an unfathered Sandbox of Chaos. Battlefield is not supposed to be Call of Duty it's supposed to be Battlefield.

  • @MALOK003
    @MALOK003 29 днів тому +8

    The most underrated thing ever in battlefield 4 was joining lobbies with 5 to 15 people on dragons valley conquest large lol, just having a little battle, really immersive and goofy, feeling like a special ops when taking out those wooden bridges with c4 and timing it perfectly, hiding from them after lol, If some of you used to play on dragons valley lobbies like these on ps4 back in the day , Hello

  • @cjgent
    @cjgent 27 днів тому

    never been less hyped about the next battlefield title and I've been a Battlefield fan since 1942. goes back to playing THE FINALS*

  • @Airblazer
    @Airblazer 22 дні тому

    They might build in joystick support this time.

  • @Nocha39
    @Nocha39 29 днів тому +33

    Man during your video those BF1 cinematics. This game was truly special. Not perfect but damn it had awesome stuff going for it.

  • @Tombuxtondrums
    @Tombuxtondrums 29 днів тому +32

    Grounded Modern Combat /Battlefield 1 Atmosphere/ Bf4 inspired /The Finals Destruction/ No Pre-Order / No silly cosmetics...
    Then I'll play :)

    • @Bigdog141
      @Bigdog141 29 днів тому +7

      There will never be a battlefield game like this again

    • @deltagaming5005
      @deltagaming5005 29 днів тому +4

      Battlelog/ commander mode on the tablet

    • @STARSRav3n
      @STARSRav3n 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@deltagaming5005I do miss commander mode. It was good in BF4 but they could flesh it out even more and made it amazing

    • @widedog3210
      @widedog3210 29 днів тому +1

      sadly this will never happen again imo they’re so out of touch

    • @pacificfederationpeacekeep999
      @pacificfederationpeacekeep999 8 днів тому

      I want to make something like that when it comes for my setting
      And yes the book its going to be based on has this exact feeling except its more near modern equipment the likes of battlefield 2042 but everything else is like that