There’s a bunch of us out here with a little bit on knowledge about certain things, but none of us out here with the vast knowledge and experience, or even 1% of the determination this man has. Huge respect, and I’m sure I didn’t tell him anything he wouldn’t have worked out for himself.
Hey ken since he mentioned you know about these transmission i got same truck 2015 579 auto transmission i was getting stuck in the gear changed XY shiffter 2,3 times i would run good for a while you stop somewhere and its stuck in gear won’t crank at all end up towing to the shop they said transmission is bad ordered new one put that one on with new XY shifter now it starts but won’t go over the 5th gear I spent way to much money on it see if you can help I would appreciate it.
@@navilubana8577 it sounds like it could be the range cylinder on back of trans. The high low splitter also has an actuator. If it’s a reman trans this most likely came new or rebuilt but you would have to check or test it. It’s also possible you’re not getting correct air pressures or voltage to transmission. I don’t know enough about your specific situation on what was replaced, or how it was diagnosed to begin with but I would start by checking the codes, and then try to work your way through it. Sounds like it’s not getting hogh range which is controlled by the rear actuator. Can’t remember terminology
Warren, you always share the trials just to look out for everyone else, that is the mark of a true mechanic. Thanks for the videos and I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. Stay Safe!
You Sir, are a gentleman that admits his errors and a scholar that credits his sources. You also happen to be one hell of a mechanic. This one has been interesting to follow.
I don't know if your going to post another video before Christmas Warren but if we don't see you before. have a Merry Christmas along with your family, thank you for showing us everything from how to fix, rants, storytime and all the quality entertainment you've provided Warren, take care.👍
We are all still learning warren 👍👍.we all need help so you passing on what you have found is great .You won't make the same mistake again 👍👍. A happy Christmas to you and your family.
Another Great Video, Warren. Seems like we learn something new every day, sometimes painfully. You and your family have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
That noise is common for those compressors. My company has about 10 trucks that make that noise. Also, im pretty sure that F flashing is for fault, not forward. These transmissions usually will throw a code using that key method from my experience. My only experience is with eaton software with these transmissions, and it's very limited at that, so thanks for the video. I'm definitely gonna pen this info down for when our transmissions inevitably fail.
thanks Warren for putting us out of our misery. We feel your pain, whether you trap your finger or get stuck with a problem job. I can't speak for everyone but I'm glad to see the back of this one almost as much as you...😶
Thank you for sharing your experience again. Would like to say , that when removed and installed ultrashift I never used "open clutch" proceedure. Just installed and removed caging bolts. And neverbhad problems even without connecting service ranger or any other diag program. Of course, with new clutch it is needed to be calibrated. Thanks again, Warren. And Merry Christmas!
Cheers Warren, every day’s a school day as they say. Reminds me of those Loading Shovel Powershift Transmission when you change the Oil and Filter you have to reset the Clutch biting points through the Laptop.
Hi Warren. My name is Chad. I've been following u for yrs now. I love what u do and how u explain things to everyone. Do let these stupid chump haters get to u. U are doing an amazing job. Keep it up.
Feel for Ya Warren, your trials are a reminder that we can all learn from others. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a great New Year. Stay Safe
Warren, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family. Always enjoy your videos. Hope you have time to take a break and relax over the holidays.
Thank you for doing a video on that warren i haven't had much to do with the gen 3 roadranger im saving this video for future reference . Hope you and your family have a great Christmas
Warren. You are not alone. I had a car that was stack shifting. Single owner. Brought it to a local shop 85k miles, they “rebuilt the transmission”. No they swapped it with a reman. No warranty. Still no fix. I asked them “did anybody check the TCU or the ECM”? They all looked at each other with their heads up their ass. So I had it towed to the OEM thinking this will get to the bottom of it…. WRONG. When I walked in the door, I specifically told them to (oem) check the TCM. They said they would do a full diagnostic on it, and they did……. They swapped out the tranny with another reman. I demanded to see the oil sample they took out of the trans they replaced, it looked fine. A kid 20 years younger than me argued with me that the oil was contaminated…he said, “there’s 80k miles on this trans, it’s got brass in the oil”. I said…. “You’re the OEM right?” “Yes we are”. “What is the fuckin vin number, the engine serial number, and the original transmission serial number that was installed?” Well guess what. He called his service manager over and said I was being rude…. End of story. The fuckin TCU was bad. I had to fight for money for 2 trans from two shops plus labor. 60 days with no car. I don’t know how you do it Warren.
The noise from the air compressor is completely normal. Usually these trucks come with a noise box filter which makes the noise a whole lot more quiet. Good work warren
Thank you warren. I learn from the struggle that we have with the equipment we work on. I had one a couple weeks ago on a hagie sprayer that the air dryer was purging all the time and it has a wet tank and dry tank. I got looking at it and the check valve had blown out and it holding to much back pressures. I replaced the valve and it was working right.
Sounds good! To me! Had a big cam Cummings in a KW the air compressor made a ticking when working sure you know what I mean ! Had a driver freak out thinking that there was a problem with engine. Great he was listening and was smart enough to tell me! But had to laugh to tell him is was normal for that older style compressor!
If you put the clutch in service position that opens the forks on actuator so you can pull the transmission off the clutch if your leaving clutch on flywheel when you remove trans. That is so you don’t have to remove actuator before pulling trans. Pretty sure that’s how it works whereas the open position is to adjust if necessary
I feel for ya,been there a few times.I wanted to pass on some things i have learned being a Deere dealer for almost 30 years.I have started engines on either more times than i want to admit.Since dealing with 6125 and early 6081 engines being air locked, I started using Napa (mac's) spray silicone to start stubborn engines(Directly into the turbo).The engine will just idle without knocking or revving up.Usually my customer is standing over my shoulder and is not so worried ,being that silicone won't dry out the cylinders.As far as shutting of the return ,I learned that years ago.The thing you have to be careful about is blowing the front seal out of the HPCR pump especially on the 4045,6068,and the 6090.I usually watch the fuel pressure and shut the engine off or open a ball valve on the return when the pressure reaches 100 psi..
To prevent this crap? Don't work on one of these trucks. I know you'll be glad to see the tail lights on this one go out the drive way. Thanks for your time. I enjoy watching your videos.
Being able to work on trucks with automated transmissions is becoming crucial since half of all class 8 trucks sold in the United States are equipped with manual transmissions and 90 percent of Volvo and Freightliner trucks are built with automated transmissions.
@@tylerramsey7396. There is absolutely no reason not to have a fleet with all automated transmissions. The main benefits are better fuel economy, lower cost of maintenance and higher safety. Not to mention driver training is easier and driver comfort is increased. No shifter on the floor between the seats makes it easier to move around inside the cab.
Definitely. I work for Mack/volvo and 90% of trucks that come through the door anymore have the Ishift/mdrive. And honestly they are not all that bad of a trans. Of course they have their set of issues but for the avg steering wheel holder it works
@@garrettfoote8570 I test drove a few trucks with the Allison tc-10 when it was first released and it was an amazing transmission. It was released at a bad time when manufacturers were making the switch to integrated power trains. The TC-10 uses a torque converter and twin countershafts. The benefit of the torque converter is torque multiplication.
Service position turns the release fork the opposite direction completely out of the way so you can pull the trans if leaving the clutch on the flywheel if not it will be stuck between the release bearing. Open clutch should only be used to adjust the clutch, if you pulled the transmission and clutch together with it in the open position the clutch would be pulling on the clutch bolts as you loosen them. The clutch service manual CLSM0200 ( which you can look up) Says when tightening the caging bolts to run them in till the shoulder touches then go another full turn and that’s plenty.
One of my KW T880 trucks had that transmission "F" (fault) indicator flash while in operation, and I'd have to stop what I'm doing, put shifter in neutral, shut-off engine for a minute then restart to reset the TCM, then off to the races. It happened so many times especially in the middle of intersections that the company finally sold the truck. For now I've switched to another KW truck with manual transmission. The company is so frustrated over these 3rd Gen Eaton Ultra-Shifts that they are selling them out of the fleet and reordering new KW trucks with the Allison auto transmissions which are a dream in dump trucks. The Ultra-Shifts are great distance road transmissions but absolutely horrible in crawling speed and off-road dump truck use.
I actually just had one this week doing what you described, it ended up being a combination of things. The LICB was not functioning properly (low inertia clutch brake) which was mainly caused by an overgrease condition in throwout bearing. Autoluber was not metering correctly, also the clutch itself had a few pieces of springs that were hanging up internally on pressure plate. Was your clutch replaced? Once those items were corrected I did replace xy shifter and both speed sensors on top shift box. I checked the rear hi low box solenoids and reinstalled. After it was back together it ran good. Pretty sure it was the combination of the LICB, the clutch, and the old xy shifter
Sorry Warren I was trying to respond to a different comment and it got posted as a new comment. It may be helpful to others anyway but it’s out of context. Hope your doing well and thanks for the videos, Ken
If you are not reusing clutch it doesn’t have to be caged, but if you don’t have software to open the forks on the actuator, you’ll have to remove the ECA and drop it down before you pull transmission. I’ve never personally done it this way but like Warren said once it’s in it should adjust it self with a few key cycles. Just make sure you have an alignment tool in new clutch and it’s tight to flywheel before it gets uncaged. You may have to leave caging bolts in until trans is secure and actuator is reinstalled before you remove cage bolts. Not sure, I would contact Eaton to verify
There’s a bunch of us out here with a little bit on knowledge about certain things, but none of us out here with the vast knowledge and experience, or even 1% of the determination this man has. Huge respect, and I’m sure I didn’t tell him anything he wouldn’t have worked out for himself.
Hey ken since he mentioned you know about these transmission i got same truck 2015 579 auto transmission i was getting stuck in the gear changed XY shiffter 2,3 times i would run good for a while you stop somewhere and its stuck in gear won’t crank at all end up towing to the shop they said transmission is bad ordered new one put that one on with new XY shifter now it starts but won’t go over the 5th gear I spent way to much money on it see if you can help I would appreciate it.
@@navilubana8577 it sounds like it could be the range cylinder on back of trans. The high low splitter also has an actuator. If it’s a reman trans this most likely came new or rebuilt but you would have to check or test it. It’s also possible you’re not getting correct air pressures or voltage to transmission. I don’t know enough about your specific situation on what was replaced, or how it was diagnosed to begin with but I would start by checking the codes, and then try to work your way through it. Sounds like it’s not getting hogh range which is controlled by the rear actuator. Can’t remember terminology
Warren, you always share the trials just to look out for everyone else, that is the mark of a true mechanic. Thanks for the videos and I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. Stay Safe!
Hey bud, that code 63 gets triggered by low voltage sometimes on the xy shift controller. No worries I think you got it man! Thanks for update! Ken
Thank you
Thanks for helping our buddy out Ken.
Yes thanks for helping Ken!
We had code 27 change the clutch now I’m getting code 16
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What model and year trick
You Sir, are a gentleman that admits his errors and a scholar that credits his sources. You also happen to be one hell of a mechanic. This one has been interesting to follow.
I am happy you were able to figure things out with help from others and your huge amount of experience. You are awesome warren
Thanks for sharing that hard won knowledge Warren. Best Wishes to You and Your Family for the Holidays.
Hey Warren, always an opportunity to learn something new. Great job getting a little advice on how to fix that thing. Thanks much for the video.
I don't know if your going to post another video before Christmas Warren but if we don't see you before. have a Merry Christmas along with your family, thank you for showing us everything from how to fix, rants, storytime and all the quality entertainment you've provided Warren, take care.👍
It’s good to see that you conquered the beast sometimes in life you have to go through a lot of pain to get to that next level👍
We are all still learning warren 👍👍.we all need help so you passing on what you have found is great .You won't make the same mistake again 👍👍.
A happy Christmas to you and your family.
Another Great Video, Warren. Seems like we learn something new every day, sometimes painfully. You and your family have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you very much Warren, always appreciate your tips and tricks. I appreciate you taking the time to let us know that!
That noise is common for those compressors. My company has about 10 trucks that make that noise. Also, im pretty sure that F flashing is for fault, not forward. These transmissions usually will throw a code using that key method from my experience. My only experience is with eaton software with these transmissions, and it's very limited at that, so thanks for the video. I'm definitely gonna pen this info down for when our transmissions inevitably fail.
thanks Warren for putting us out of our misery. We feel your pain, whether you trap your finger or get stuck with a problem job. I can't speak for everyone but I'm glad to see the back of this one almost as much as you...😶
Thank you for sharing your experience again. Would like to say , that when removed and installed ultrashift I never used "open clutch" proceedure. Just installed and removed caging bolts. And neverbhad problems even without connecting service ranger or any other diag program. Of course, with new clutch it is needed to be calibrated.
Thanks again, Warren. And Merry Christmas!
That engine sounds really good, so good I'd get it out the door as soon as possible.
Thanks for sharing Warren! Sounds like you had a lot to figure out with that trans!
You're up to 11500 subscribers slowly moving up I hope you get a million thank you sir❤
Good to hear that you solve your problem Warren love the channel
Cheers Warren, every day’s a school day as they say. Reminds me of those Loading Shovel Powershift Transmission when you change the Oil and Filter you have to reset the Clutch biting points through the Laptop.
Cheers 🍻👍to Ken for being an awesome Person / Thanks for the Video Warren 👍
Hi Warren. My name is Chad. I've been following u for yrs now. I love what u do and how u explain things to everyone. Do let these stupid chump haters get to u. U are doing an amazing job. Keep it up.
The last one you worked on had a noisy compressor too. Glad you figured out that crazy ass truck! Thanks Warren!
I learn something every episode. Wishing you and your family a safe and happy festive season from New Zealand, however you celebrate it
Thanks for the information young man, appreciate you taking the time to video this for us.
Feel for Ya Warren, your trials are a reminder that we can all learn from others. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a great New Year. Stay Safe
Warren, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family. Always enjoy your videos. Hope you have time to take a break and relax over the holidays.
The university of life is a great teacher. Well done Warren.
Great video Warren thanks for sharing these tip on this trucks clutch. Looking forward to your next video Merry Christmas Warren and Family.
You spoke well...thats what makes a good video...helping your viewer's and viewer's helping Warren
Warren...bad ass.
Always learning. Love your channel.
Keep it up
that's the first i have heard about that. thanks for the info,that's way i watch your channel keep up the good work
Thank you for doing a video on that warren i haven't had much to do with the gen 3 roadranger im saving this video for future reference . Hope you and your family have a great Christmas
Hi from the uk warren . You have the patience of a saint sir . Thanks for your content have a great Christmas
You have a wise group of subscribers Warren. Good to see.
Warren you're the man! Thanks for another video!
Warren. You are not alone. I had a car that was stack shifting. Single owner. Brought it to a local shop 85k miles, they “rebuilt the transmission”. No they swapped it with a reman. No warranty. Still no fix. I asked them “did anybody check the TCU or the ECM”? They all looked at each other with their heads up their ass. So I had it towed to the OEM thinking this will get to the bottom of it…. WRONG. When I walked in the door, I specifically told them to (oem) check the TCM. They said they would do a full diagnostic on it, and they did……. They swapped out the tranny with another reman. I demanded to see the oil sample they took out of the trans they replaced, it looked fine. A kid 20 years younger than me argued with me that the oil was contaminated…he said, “there’s 80k miles on this trans, it’s got brass in the oil”. I said…. “You’re the OEM right?” “Yes we are”. “What is the fuckin vin number, the engine serial number, and the original transmission serial number that was installed?” Well guess what. He called his service manager over and said I was being rude…. End of story. The fuckin TCU was bad. I had to fight for money for 2 trans from two shops plus labor. 60 days with no car. I don’t know how you do it Warren.
You're one fantastic mechanic awesome job
The noise from the air compressor is completely normal. Usually these trucks come with a noise box filter which makes the noise a whole lot more quiet. Good work warren
It's good win a viewer helps. Thanks for sharing this information
Another great video Thanks Warren
Marry Christmas to you and your family.
Boy ya gotta know your clutches in them big rigs. I’m glad you were able to find the fix. I knew you would. Thanks for sharing Warren
kinda missed this one some how..... but i found it. Thanks for the update Warren. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and happy New Year. Amazing work
Thank you warren. I learn from the struggle that we have with the equipment we work on. I had one a couple weeks ago on a hagie sprayer that the air dryer was purging all the time and it has a wet tank and dry tank. I got looking at it and the check valve had blown out and it holding to much back pressures. I replaced the valve and it was working right.
Merry Christmas to you and your family
Fine job, sir, and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Hope you have a great Christmas and New Year. I really enjoy your videos.
Thanks for the education Warren very informative 😉👍😎
This helps me out a lot I have one of them transmission in my Freightliner thank you
Great Info. Warren! Thanks!
Merry Christmas to you and your Family
TGP
Love you, Warren ❤
Have a good Christmas holiday Warrren & family.
Have a good Christmas man, appreciate the videos.👍
Sounds good! To me! Had a big cam Cummings in a KW the air compressor made a ticking when working sure you know what I mean ! Had a driver freak out thinking that there was a problem with engine. Great he was listening and was smart enough to tell me! But had to laugh to tell him is was normal for that older style compressor!
If you put the clutch in service position that opens the forks on actuator so you can pull the transmission off the clutch if your leaving clutch on flywheel when you remove trans. That is so you don’t have to remove actuator before pulling trans. Pretty sure that’s how it works whereas the open position is to adjust if necessary
Brake rivet or a ball bearing always good for blocking off pipes.
Awesome work
I feel for ya,been there a few times.I wanted to pass on some things i have learned being a Deere dealer for almost 30 years.I have started engines on either more times than i want to admit.Since dealing with 6125 and early 6081 engines being air locked, I started using Napa (mac's) spray silicone to start stubborn engines(Directly into the turbo).The engine will just idle without knocking or revving up.Usually my customer is standing over my shoulder and is not so worried ,being that silicone won't dry out the cylinders.As far as shutting of the return ,I learned that years ago.The thing you have to be careful about is blowing the front seal out of the HPCR pump especially on the 4045,6068,and the 6090.I usually watch the fuel pressure and shut the engine off or open a ball valve on the return when the pressure reaches 100 psi..
warren your the best ... what dont kill ya only makes you stronger! it feels good to win huh?! upwards and onwards!!
Werr bedankt voor leerzame filmpje warren top
merry christmas warren and family
Great job Merry Christmas to y'all 👍🏻🇺🇸
To prevent this crap? Don't work on one of these trucks. I know you'll be glad to see the tail lights on this one go out the drive way. Thanks for your time. I enjoy watching your videos.
I recently put a new clutch in my ultrashift. 2015 model. I went with an Ace Mfg clutch.
Excellent video
Being able to work on trucks with automated transmissions is becoming crucial since half of all class 8 trucks sold in the United States are equipped with manual transmissions and 90 percent of Volvo and Freightliner trucks are built with automated transmissions.
Almost all trucking companies are starting to use them the company I work at has phased out all manuals for automated ones
@@tylerramsey7396. There is absolutely no reason not to have a fleet with all automated transmissions. The main benefits are better fuel economy, lower cost of maintenance and higher safety. Not to mention driver training is easier and driver comfort is increased. No shifter on the floor between the seats makes it easier to move around inside the cab.
Definitely. I work for Mack/volvo and 90% of trucks that come through the door anymore have the Ishift/mdrive. And honestly they are not all that bad of a trans. Of course they have their set of issues but for the avg steering wheel holder it works
@@ChrisHarding-lk3jj Less chance of flip flops getting snagged....
@@garrettfoote8570 I test drove a few trucks with the Allison tc-10 when it was first released and it was an amazing transmission. It was released at a bad time when manufacturers were making the switch to integrated power trains. The TC-10 uses a torque converter and twin countershafts. The benefit of the torque converter is torque multiplication.
Service position turns the release fork the opposite direction completely out of the way so you can pull the trans if leaving the clutch on the flywheel if not it will be stuck between the release bearing. Open clutch should only be used to adjust the clutch, if you pulled the transmission and clutch together with it in the open position the clutch would be pulling on the clutch bolts as you loosen them. The clutch service manual CLSM0200 ( which you can look up) Says when tightening the caging bolts to run them in till the shoulder touches then go another full turn and that’s plenty.
Well said, also good job including the service manual bulletin or P/N # for others to reference.
One of my KW T880 trucks had that transmission "F" (fault) indicator flash while in operation, and I'd have to stop what I'm doing, put shifter in neutral, shut-off engine for a minute then restart to reset the TCM, then off to the races. It happened so many times especially in the middle of intersections that the company finally sold the truck. For now I've switched to another KW truck with manual transmission. The company is so frustrated over these 3rd Gen Eaton Ultra-Shifts that they are selling them out of the fleet and reordering new KW trucks with the Allison auto transmissions which are a dream in dump trucks. The Ultra-Shifts are great distance road transmissions but absolutely horrible in crawling speed and off-road dump truck use.
Bloody nora what a mission this bastard has been for you
Technology is lovely.
Thanks Warren for the video!
Great Videos
good info, thanks for sharing that !!
Thank you warren 👍 have a good one
Great job Warren. Thanks for the information. My thumbs up bottom has been missing in your past 3 videos? Kinda weird.
I wished there were a whole bunch more patriots like U out there
Hello I replaced a clutch on a isx12 pet. Did not have to calibrated it don’t have the program seems to run fine
Thank you
Gotta love a saga in Clamath Falls
Klamath
( 7:45 ) “So I ah.. So I thought- you know what, you
dirty bastard…”
Classic Warren..!!
How interesting great video,
Good stuff. I learned a lot.
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So is the clutch the reason that the Paccar wouldn't start??? What was the problem?
What do you tap and slide over to the new position?
I still like my old pre computer trucks wheee a driver had to know how to drive
That's the whole reason for these junk transmissions is these guys now can't drive.
Exactly why there's so many wrecks and fatalities from the wrecks! These wannabe drivers don't know their ass from a hole in the ground!
I actually just had one this week doing what you described, it ended up being a combination of things. The LICB was not functioning properly (low inertia clutch brake) which was mainly caused by an overgrease condition in throwout bearing. Autoluber was not metering correctly, also the clutch itself had a few pieces of springs that were hanging up internally on pressure plate. Was your clutch replaced?
Once those items were corrected I did replace xy shifter and both speed sensors on top shift box. I checked the rear hi low box solenoids and reinstalled. After it was back together it ran good. Pretty sure it was the combination of the LICB, the clutch, and the old xy shifter
Sounds like you got it whipped.
Sorry Warren I was trying to respond to a different comment and it got posted as a new comment. It may be helpful to others anyway but it’s out of context. Hope your doing well and thanks for the videos, Ken
Good Stuff
Me and my old-school fuller 10 sitting here looking at each other laughing out ass off !!!
Good job....
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What ever happened to an 18 speed with an Easy Pedal clutch?Big deal if you have to pay to have the clutch adjusted once and a while.
They are still the most common manual Trans set up
What do you use for invoicing and labor times?
👍👍.. glad there'll never b one of those around here...👍👍👊
You don't have to cage the clutch if it is going to stay on the flywheel
If you are rebuilding the engine, you pull the flywheel
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 fair enough but it sounded like you were saying that if the transmission is coming out the clutch has to be caged.
The problem is you have workboots on! Put some shorts and flip flops on and that thing will be perfect!
Do you think i have to do these procedures if im replacing the clutch. The new clutch is caged. I dont have the software for the transmission.
If you are not reusing clutch it doesn’t have to be caged, but if you don’t have software to open the forks on the actuator, you’ll have to remove the ECA and drop it down before you pull transmission. I’ve never personally done it this way but like Warren said once it’s in it should adjust it self with a few key cycles. Just make sure you have an alignment tool in new clutch and it’s tight to flywheel before it gets uncaged. You may have to leave caging bolts in until trans is secure and actuator is reinstalled before you remove cage bolts. Not sure, I would contact Eaton to verify
Oops no you would remove caging bolts once aligned or you would loose your alignment sorry.
I would not have one of these trucks for all the tea in China. I will stick with my old 80s and 90s mechanical engines and trans
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