Caterpillar c12 misfire

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • Determining the cause of a misfire on cylinder #2 and cylinder #5.

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  • @geesss8675
    @geesss8675 Місяць тому +33

    Warren is a intelligent hard working man driven by strong core values. . . I wish there were people like him in my area. .
    He is an asset to youtube and America.
    I think he grossly under rates his abilities and under prices his services.

  • @samuelw.3992
    @samuelw.3992 Місяць тому +28

    your awesome Warren, i heard you say, you just dont seem to enjoy it anymore. me im crazy passionate about this line of work, and i know your a veteran. youve taught me alot already but im far from a pro yet. so i thank you for keeping me wanting more. i use to work construction and i had a chance to go to college for diesel tech and really going after mechanic work, but im 32 now and been at this wrenching thing for 3 yrs now, and this is my true passion, wish i wouldve tackled it sooner, but better than nothing, anyways thanks for everything.

    • @ShitMyPants316
      @ShitMyPants316 Місяць тому

      If you don’t love what you do, you’re destined to fail long term.
      I’ve been working on farm and heavy equipment since was kid always loved it, but my dad who owned several service companies said most of the time something you love turns into something you hate because at the end of the day you have to be making good money. And if you’re dealing with crappy customers and the pay doesn’t compensate for it, then you’re gonna begin to hate it

    • @nathankisner8332
      @nathankisner8332 Місяць тому +2

      Keep going!

  • @helo1bob1
    @helo1bob1 24 дні тому

    I really enjoy your channel. The most important thing is your insight into the world! I would enjoy seeing your prospecting. When I was 10 years old, a friend and I found an old prospecting shaker box. We found about 6 flakes for a day of digging.

  • @michaelmcdonald6727
    @michaelmcdonald6727 Місяць тому +16

    Hey Warren, more work at the house. Maybe you should look into building another shop on your property. That way you wouldn’t have to work out in the weather. Anyways, another great video fixing people’s stuff. You the best, thanks much!

  • @jddiesel7409
    @jddiesel7409 Місяць тому +23

    C12, c10, 3176. All are notorious for the bushing in the injector follower wears and falls apart. The floppy roller then beats the hell out of the cam lobe and wipes it out. There was a revision on the followers that had a wider bushing in them and they survived much longer. If you pull out that injector pushrod and reach down with a long pick, you can move that follower up and down and see the roller flop around on the bushing. You can't get the followers out without pulling the head off. There are two different head gaskets, one has a straight edge along the pass through opening for the pushrods and the other has a scalloped edge. Once you get the front cover off to pull the cam out, there is a single bolt in the back driver side with a 5/8 12 point head that goes through a groove in the back of the cam. I have seen a couple of cams that have survived, but they were shut down right away. Oregon cam grinders can usually fix the cam and they used to stock one. I don't know if they stock them still. If you use them, you have to pull the gear off before you send it. They won't pull or install the gear. It's a very very tight press fit too. Before teardown, listen for a noisy compressor drive gear making a rattle. Pretty common problem too, and if the cam is coming out, you'll be right there to do it. Hope this info helps. You're in my hometown!

    • @raymeus
      @raymeus Місяць тому +2

      He should of read your comment, he seems to think its a flat cam, just like you said.

    • @elir6565
      @elir6565 Місяць тому

      So whats the recommended repair for this? Replace all followers? Replace engine?

    • @jddiesel7409
      @jddiesel7409 Місяць тому +1

      @@elir6565 pull pan, check a couple of main and rod bearings, if they look good, replace the cam if it did end up getting damaged, replaced all injector followers and if it's in the budget do the intake and exhaust too. There was an updated design with wider bushings in them. Get injectors checked out. If an injector is sticking it will contribute to this failure as well. Pull the oil strainer and clean it, pull the filter head and clean it, metal likes to collect right at the bypass valve so if it does open up, the first thing it gets is metal passed through it to the bearings.

    • @musthaveclutch
      @musthaveclutch Місяць тому

      @@jddiesel7409 as soon as I saw the play I figured it was the bushing issue. Had to put a cam in a c12 last year for that.

  • @Dieseltech109
    @Dieseltech109 Місяць тому +3

    As a fellow field mechanic I enjoy your videos and definitely learn things from watching you. I totally get the whole being burned out with this trade.

  • @richardlincoln8438
    @richardlincoln8438 Місяць тому +11

    Thanks for sharing the diagnosis of the problem Warren. I liked what i could see of the wet kit on the red truck.
    Best Wishes to You and Your Family.

  • @benbaltazar1236
    @benbaltazar1236 Місяць тому +1

    I been wrenching for 50 years as a backyard mechanic, I definitely know the feeling , but I still take on work it's in our blood, you are one hell of a mechanic and I'm always learning from ur videos.

  • @richardhoneywell7411
    @richardhoneywell7411 Місяць тому +8

    Great video Warren really enjoy watching you work on this C12 Cat for a miss fire problem. Cam going flat is a bad problem to have. Thanks for sharing stay safe Warren.

    • @martyjr540
      @martyjr540 Місяць тому +2

      That's seams to be a problem with the C12

  • @butchphillips873
    @butchphillips873 Місяць тому +6

    G'day Warren, You do a great job for your clients. With the state government and emissions I think everyone will be forced into some sort of compliance, at least till the country comes to a stop. As for the prospecting here in Victoria Australia our state government is bringing in rules, lots of rules, an infringement will carry a penalty. I don't know where one can move to to avoide all this compliance. I guess I winge to much. Merry Christmass to you, your family and all your viewers. cheers , Butch.

  • @austin_94gt18
    @austin_94gt18 Місяць тому +1

    Im glad you talk about your personal life while working. It makes it feel more realistic and less like a programmed video on autotune.

  • @killerace2014
    @killerace2014 Місяць тому +2

    Warren i wouldnt be near as far agead in life if it wasnt for you and guys like you! I hope to contribute as much as you have one day!

  • @RobertYoutsey
    @RobertYoutsey Місяць тому +7

    As always, appreciate the effort to post the video. I always look forward to it. And as a membership contributing member (as i hope others are as well) I thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @mayberrygobber5818
    @mayberrygobber5818 Місяць тому +2

    Warren thank you for all your knowledge sharing on your videos. It has helped me tremendously. I can certainly understand your frustration on working on trucks and equipment and the earning/payment end of it. I have recently retire and now have lifted a ton of responsibilities of the grind to earn money. I just want to say that getting old sucks and we are most definitely living in some challenging times. You are a smart cookie and will do what is best for you and the family. Hang in there buddy.

  • @douglasmayherjr.5733
    @douglasmayherjr.5733 Місяць тому +3

    Really appreciate your videos and commentary, Warren. I hope you are able to do something that you enjoy and make some money doing it. Definitely looks like something is out of adjustment or worn out on the C12, hopefully you will have another video once you figure it out. Thanks again. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

  • @manddservice.manddservice
    @manddservice.manddservice Місяць тому +2

    Warren, I would Never dislike you for your opinion. That is your right. We agree on many things. I'm not sure we disagree on few. Love the channel and the input. Thank you

  • @g-man7938
    @g-man7938 Місяць тому +4

    Can certainly understand the burnout. Hope you and your family have a great holiday season.👍🏻

  • @steveb290
    @steveb290 Місяць тому

    Warren funny how you have a passion for prospecting. I,m 37 years into driving truck and have a few metal detectors. Take them all over Canada and just love hunting for stuff,can't get enough of it. I like the content you are doing now, if and when you get into prospecting please take us with you.

  • @chenderson4969
    @chenderson4969 Місяць тому +4

    Good work mate! I was thinking collapsed/broken injector spring initially but you would have felt no resistance setting your pre load. You’re onto it

  • @user-ln7of9gs4s
    @user-ln7of9gs4s Місяць тому

    Happy New Year Warren! 🎉🎉🎉 WE miss the videos, and your commentary to feed the trolls.

  • @matthewevans5915
    @matthewevans5915 Місяць тому +1

    Thank u for all the content this year warren you've helped me in more ways than u know. Merry Xmas to u and your family and a prosperous new year brother. God bless

  • @calumanderson5617
    @calumanderson5617 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you for the video Warren, great new hobby to have to enjoy, especially geology, by the sounds of things you'll get rich quick !!!.👍

  • @PrairieMechanic
    @PrairieMechanic Місяць тому

    Warren, I’ve told you before but I’ll say it again, I’ve been watching you for years. 5 for sure. You’ve been a major influence on me and my decision to become self employed. Totally understand the burnout and the lack of interest. It’s hard to do a thankless job all day everyday. I support you whatever you do and I just hope your camera goes with you from time to time. I feel like I’ve come to know you like a good friend over the years. Take care bud

  • @marklowe330
    @marklowe330 Місяць тому +4

    I do agree on the flat cam diagnosis.
    Thanks for the video and your time.
    Best of luck with the prospecting. Take a little more time off and enjoy life now that you have that school payment off your back.

  • @calumanderson5617
    @calumanderson5617 Місяць тому +1

    Hope you and your family are alright Warren, Happy New Year to you and your family.

  • @rustynail4676
    @rustynail4676 Місяць тому +3

    Sounds like it's time for a change. My hope is you bring us along for the ride.

  • @noseeum6385
    @noseeum6385 Місяць тому

    You sound excited with the Prospecting possibilities and have obviously attacked the knowledge end with your usual dynamo attitude of self education being the key to understanding and success. I think your spark will brighten when you get back to doing something that challenges you in a different way. Good for you.

  • @user-ln7of9gs4s
    @user-ln7of9gs4s Місяць тому +1

    I hope you’re safe and have a good New Year Warren!

  •  Місяць тому +1

    Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family Warren from Vancouver BC ❤

  • @philglover2973
    @philglover2973 Місяць тому +2

    Awesome video thanks Warren for your time and consideration top job 🚛🚛🚛🚛🚜🚜🚜🛠️🔧

  • @chadowens3254
    @chadowens3254 Місяць тому +5

    I like watching some of the stuff jeff Williams puts out he covers some pretty good geologic features for prospecting

  • @chrisgreeby3056
    @chrisgreeby3056 Місяць тому +4

    Those C12 Cats were known for cam problems. My 98 Western Star had a 9ns and the cam had a deep groove in one lobe, you could hear a slight lope in the exhaust.

  • @adamdnewman
    @adamdnewman Місяць тому +1

    Thanks again Warren for letting us join you

  • @timcharlton7423
    @timcharlton7423 Місяць тому

    merry Christmas and a happy new year Warren keep up the amazing work you are doing 👏

  • @billdornan4379
    @billdornan4379 Місяць тому +5

    Hey Warren. Kindest regards,Bill 🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @jakestahl749
    @jakestahl749 Місяць тому

    I wish you were closer to me you have a lot off hands on experience have a wonderful holiday season

  • @Tom-Carraher-Fla
    @Tom-Carraher-Fla Місяць тому +1

    Warren!lookin forward for results on this c12, sure does seem like the cams gone to me also, oh!good luck with your prospecting hobby,we’re all slowing down Warren,maybe you’ll have those yrs till 2029. Hope things well w/ kids and wifey,catch ya again.

  • @keithwallington4966
    @keithwallington4966 Місяць тому

    happy new year to you and your family the white batterys are the ones to get as they handal the cold better

  • @mcd5082
    @mcd5082 Місяць тому +3

    Thanks for sharing Warren!

  • @northwoodsguy1538
    @northwoodsguy1538 Місяць тому

    Happy New Year, hope you and the family had great holiday season.

  • @cwmbc
    @cwmbc Місяць тому +1

    Ive found that when i personally "lost passion" for my job. As an auto electrician since leaving school. I worked boy and man on anything from electric wheel chairs to open cast mining equipment spanning 28 years. The gring of cold. Wet and heat got in my bones. So i stepped back and moved on. A change sometimes is for the better.

  • @rodneymiddleton9624
    @rodneymiddleton9624 Місяць тому +2

    It's not an ECM issue for once. Lots of work to replace a cam on one of those. Thanks Warren.

  • @jamesmorrison8279
    @jamesmorrison8279 Місяць тому +5

    I will miss you, sounds like you are ready for a change. Not surprising, you've been doing this most of your life. Do it. One thing may be your phone will only ring from your wife and family, I left work 20yrs ago, built houses renos and new. went fly fishing for trout, never looked back, learnt heaps and still am, met wonderful people and enjoy the solitude of the rivers I fish. Fishing for gold, sounds good, best of luck.

  • @flyboy6876
    @flyboy6876 Місяць тому +1

    Hate to tell you this, Warren, but you can also go very broke with gold. Oh, don't get me wrong, it is a blast. Very weather related, I go to northern Washington where the ice age glacier came down, primarily alluvial but some hard rock. I minored in geology, so understand rocks. Most of the time, I made enough to pay for the trip and time up there, but making a living doing it. The cost goes up exponentially, and the regs are murder. I love doing it though

  • @johncone9516
    @johncone9516 Місяць тому +2

    You're welcome to come to the UK Warren. There's a shortage of skilled mechanics here that are independent from the dealers.

  • @docwy8763
    @docwy8763 Місяць тому +1

    follow your dreams my friend, life is short. happy holidays

  • @johnwesner3935
    @johnwesner3935 Місяць тому +1

    Once the chrome or surface hardening goes south the cam goes pretty quickly. Had that with cranks that were machined beyond surface hardening.

  • @TheAde71
    @TheAde71 Місяць тому +2

    When your prospecting gathers pace,maybe you should call your channel western sieve and sluice 😊.
    Best regards from the UK

  • @Bigfootbounty
    @Bigfootbounty Місяць тому +1

    Getting Old Hurts lol.. I do miss the days lying under my D6 with snow flying lol.

  • @douglaskuhn3781
    @douglaskuhn3781 Місяць тому +3

    Prospecting sounds fun! Just don't get rid of ALL your tools. Prospecting videos would be good.

  • @StephenRamsden-d4i
    @StephenRamsden-d4i Місяць тому

    I do like your "crack/chat" Warren, u r not daft and u know your job, well done, keep batting on and thanks
    no body works likes Warren, but u do what u want mate

  • @MayorofDipshittery-lq7if
    @MayorofDipshittery-lq7if Місяць тому +2

    Biggest problems we had with Cat C12 engines were the turbos running way too hot and cracking the housings. Expensive job because it scrapped the turbos.

    • @martyjr540
      @martyjr540 Місяць тому

      The C12's were known for head problems, The rest of the engines are normally pretty good.

  • @adams5153
    @adams5153 Місяць тому +3

    I think most critical thinkers believe both political parties are a joke. Neither is for the people.

  • @ChrisHarding-lk3jj
    @ChrisHarding-lk3jj Місяць тому +4

    Alaska is a great place to go. People with skills can make a lot of money in Alaska.

  • @douglaskuhn3781
    @douglaskuhn3781 Місяць тому +4

    Any metal in the oil filter? Wiped cam should show some metal.

  • @chadpyett6441
    @chadpyett6441 Місяць тому

    Guess moma didn't raise no fool! Have a merry Christmas warren

  • @deepwatercane
    @deepwatercane Місяць тому

    Warren, come on down to Florida, we need good mechanic's.

  • @PoliticalGangster
    @PoliticalGangster Місяць тому

    RIP Warren, I will miss and always remember you

    • @user-ln7of9gs4s
      @user-ln7of9gs4s Місяць тому

      What happened to him?

    • @PoliticalGangster
      @PoliticalGangster Місяць тому

      @@user-ln7of9gs4s im sorry i cant divulge that personal info. please understand.

    • @cluckhead1913
      @cluckhead1913 Місяць тому

      @@user-ln7of9gs4s He registered as a Democrat.☹

  • @alwatts3778
    @alwatts3778 Місяць тому +1

    Looking forward to some gold prospecting content in the future

  • @kneedeepinit
    @kneedeepinit Місяць тому +2

    re: farmers not parting with money quickly - the old saying is Saskatchewan is that he has deep pockets and short arms.

  • @jtrack33
    @jtrack33 Місяць тому +2

    Moisture in the fuel once caused injector corrosion and it would not fully return, leaving an excessive clearance.

  • @Prariedog
    @Prariedog Місяць тому

    Great video Waŕen,thanks for sharing ,safe travels bud

  • @hddm3
    @hddm3 Місяць тому

    That’s bad ass Warren. Glad to hear it man. Godbless

  • @cupitosbornejr.7905
    @cupitosbornejr.7905 Місяць тому +3

    It does seem like it's going to hell in a hand basket 🧺

  • @brianbesmehn4882
    @brianbesmehn4882 Місяць тому +1

    If you can get out, i wish you all the luck. I think all get to the point were turning wrenches becomes burden. O dont see the industrie getting any better any time soon

  • @AnthonySmith-hr2kp
    @AnthonySmith-hr2kp Місяць тому +2

    Dang it Warren good job. Check of a guy!!!!!

  • @billtodd6509
    @billtodd6509 Місяць тому +4

    I have to 100% agree with you on farmers slow pay. We quit hauling for farmers direct anymore and only haul for the feed lots COD. These farmers are always poor mouthing the truckers but always ride around in the 125ooo duallys and talk like big shots, right?

    • @westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
      @westerntruckandtractorrepa1353  Місяць тому +4

      Oh yeah, waiting for another subsidy check from the government.

    • @billtodd6509
      @billtodd6509 Місяць тому

      @@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 I wish you and your family a great(and warm) holiday. That's a neat plumbing job on the Volvo.

  • @keithwallington4966
    @keithwallington4966 Місяць тому

    merry chistmas warren have a good time

  • @ogle475
    @ogle475 Місяць тому

    Future reference Warren C12 you can run the nuts that hold the jakes on tight against the rocker stud nut and you can run the engine with the jakes removed. Bad news on the cam only way to replace the cam follows is to remove the head on a C12

  • @teamcummins
    @teamcummins Місяць тому +3

    Are you not working out of the big shop anymore Warren?

  • @larryesmith5060
    @larryesmith5060 Місяць тому +3

    That Cat is Definitely not purring correctly

  • @kevinmoore342
    @kevinmoore342 Місяць тому +1

    You need to get the newest version of the gold monster. It's called the gold monster 8,000. Oh no wait that's the intoxalizer 8,000. Dammit l watch way to much UA-cam But you have to admit those police videos are pretty cool.

  • @homerdude5831
    @homerdude5831 Місяць тому

    I feel like I'm in the same boat. 20 years of being a mechanic for a job. Some days it gets old but not sure what else I would do if i wasn't a mechanic.

  • @terrellscaife2411
    @terrellscaife2411 Місяць тому

    Yeah, I had a spark plug Snap on me when I was removing it on a Cadillac CTS four-cylinder turbo, but I managed to get it out

  • @roadsideservice2406
    @roadsideservice2406 Місяць тому +1

    ❤ great video

  • @ThatGuy-AG
    @ThatGuy-AG Місяць тому +4

    I sure hope you take your camera with you when you retire to the gold mine!

  • @user-ln7of9gs4s
    @user-ln7of9gs4s Місяць тому +4

    Disregard the bot comments, do not click on their profiles, they are not real.

  • @isaiahkane9282
    @isaiahkane9282 Місяць тому

    Hey Warren brother I’m a bit late to this video. But when I first found you a few years back I initially said “he’s tired” maybe not tired of the work specifically but just work in general. I think it’s time you do what you want to do. UA-cam’s and trucks may not be your niche anymore. Only one life brother try some new shit out. Never to old!!!

  • @julianreid8179
    @julianreid8179 21 день тому

    could a hydorlic lifter be colapsed if it has one? im no diesel expert...

  • @ianlulham
    @ianlulham Місяць тому +1

    Happy Christmas

  • @misterhipster9509
    @misterhipster9509 Місяць тому +1

    You'd do well to inventory a couple hose hooks, makes removing stuck rubber routine. Just saying.

  • @leonmccall5942
    @leonmccall5942 Місяць тому +2

    You had a code for oil pressure, I bet they ran low on oil

  • @billtodd6509
    @billtodd6509 Місяць тому +1

    Wouldn't a dial indicator be able to see if cam wasn't lifting?

  • @StephenBeale
    @StephenBeale Місяць тому

    Great video. What is that software you're using to diagnose it, please? Looks useful. Thanks

  • @nathangridley7349
    @nathangridley7349 Місяць тому +1

    Number 5 valve stuck open?

  • @billdornan4379
    @billdornan4379 Місяць тому +1

    Hey Warren…have you found any Leaverite in any of those old mines? Kindest regards,Bill 🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @ethantracy337
    @ethantracy337 Місяць тому +2

    I have worked for a lot of farmers, and you just get burnt out. Everything is a rush, then you don't get paid.

  • @jasonbayer2096
    @jasonbayer2096 Місяць тому +1

    I'm working on a c12 at the moment as well have you ever seen the rockers flat out and eat into the bridges

    • @martyjr540
      @martyjr540 Місяць тому

      Yes That is a problem. It's advised to replace all the components at once. When you start seeing this issue. From personal experience. It's labor intensive to get down to the worn components.

    • @jasonbayer2096
      @jasonbayer2096 Місяць тому

      @martyjr540 ive got all the rockers and bridges coming they had then in stock but we are going on 3 days now

    • @martyjr540
      @martyjr540 Місяць тому

      @@jasonbayer2096 I just did a C12 a few months ago. Had similar issues. All started with a stuck injector. And turned into a lot more.

  • @billtodd6509
    @billtodd6509 Місяць тому +1

    Warren, maybe one of these days you will be putting up a video of you leading a couple pack mules up that mountain valley with a pick over your shoulder, haha. Did you ever see Humphrey Bogart Movie Sierra Madre?

  • @stevegwinn68
    @stevegwinn68 Місяць тому +1

    If customers make you wait for the money just price it accordingly

  • @timmieclark9976
    @timmieclark9976 Місяць тому +1

    Go to Utah, where all the oil well tanker trucks are. They haul heavy loads and beat up their trucks. They have money and always need repair.

  • @dennissmith460
    @dennissmith460 Місяць тому +1

    Could you have a bad roller on a couple of the cam followers ?

  • @nathanmarshall9951
    @nathanmarshall9951 Місяць тому +2

    Hey Warren!!

  • @noelhohberger1188
    @noelhohberger1188 Місяць тому +1

    Do you still have the other shop Warren or did I miss something?

  • @yowser8780
    @yowser8780 Місяць тому +3

    Cam has gone flat... or something else has gone awry. Cam flat, the customer should have noticed the drop in engine performance over some time. Either way... it's a disaster, there will be metal in the oil... bearings probably toast.

  • @DaleWesley-d7i
    @DaleWesley-d7i Місяць тому +2

    Evening 😉😉😉😉

  • @erikbahena1086
    @erikbahena1086 Місяць тому

    Could you use a dial indicator and see lift compared to other?

  • @jacobmiller5834
    @jacobmiller5834 Місяць тому

    I think being a self employed problem solver all day every day makes a person think differently.

  • @JACKATTACKED
    @JACKATTACKED Місяць тому +2

    👍

  • @davidholder3207
    @davidholder3207 Місяць тому +1

    Pushrod/rocker arm?