10 Things KILLING Your Jon Boat SPEED and PERFORMANCE

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  • @Skinnyriver
    @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +4

    Here is the FULL GUIDE on how to adjust your TRIM to max your John Boat's top speed and performance: ua-cam.com/video/PYldlDtkZrI/v-deo.html
    The 10 Things:
    00:10 - Trim
    00:39 - Prop Pitch
    01:12 - Jon Boat Weight Distribution
    02:10 - Large Gas Tank and Total Weight
    02:43 - Gas Lines
    03:04 - Fuel Filter
    03:12 - Crappy Gas
    03:28 - Bad Air Flow
    03:42 - Motor HP Rating
    03:56 - ????????? BEST ONE
    04:41 - 3 BONUS ITEMS [Hydrofoil, Float Pods, Spark Plug]
    My setup:
    2019 Mercury/Tohatsu [same motor] 6hp 4-stroke Outboard
    1984 Coleman Crawdad 12" Flat Bottom Jon Boat
    For million $$$ sponsorships (or just wanna chat) hit me up at skinnyriveroutdoors@gmail.com

  • @kennyw6932
    @kennyw6932 2 роки тому +8

    I've enjoyed a few of your videos finding them quite interesting and informative. I have a '68 Aluma Craft F7-14 foot semi-V that I truly enjoy. I'm almost 80 and this little boat at 260 lbs is still easily handled by me on and off the lakes and reservoirs I frequent. I thoroughly enjoyed your video on trim and happy to have viewed '10 things.' It solidified my position on 3 gallon tank verses internal tank and a gallon on the side. I ran 6 & 15 horse two strokes for years, constant carb/tune up issues. Not being mechanically inclined I lined a few pocketbooks as mine grew thinner. Last fall I bought a 5hp Merc 4 stroke, thank you stimulus check, and love it. It's very economical on gas, very quiet and will quite unlikely ever be run pedal to the medal. I enjoy slow go and being able to hear myself think as well as the bird chirping. Thanks for sharing your experiences. They've certainly answered some of my curiosities and you are excellent explaining your reasoning(s).

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +2

      I appreciate the view! It sounds like you have a great setup. That combo of the 5hp 4stroke and the 14’ is perfect. Keep me updated and let me know if you have any questions as that 5hp is basically the same motor as my 6hp.

  • @TonyTruth-s9z
    @TonyTruth-s9z 7 днів тому +1

    Never thought I'd have to worry about speed and performance with a jon boat. Its sole purpose is to get from point A to B and back and to keep me dry.

  • @rjwintl
    @rjwintl 2 роки тому +5

    Yep , water temperature in the James River here in Virginia is at 55 degrees (air temp. 67) … perfect time to be out on the water … don’t forget your pfd (cause the state water patrol is out and about) !!!

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, and don’t forget to check your boat registration and fishing license lol mine expired and I didn’t remember it… ooops but it worked out

  • @stephenbonaventure9423
    @stephenbonaventure9423 2 роки тому +17

    Number 11 make sure anti-cavitation plate is at least level with the bottom edge of the transom don’t wanna drag that motor in the water.

  • @TS-eg8dm
    @TS-eg8dm 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for your video, again another one that actually makes sense, thank you

  • @mriphone1000
    @mriphone1000 Рік тому +5

    I changed my old beat up propeller for a new one. 18% increase in speed. Definitely a happy camper.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      Yeah I need to do that, my prop has hit a few rocks :)

  • @sonmydful
    @sonmydful 2 роки тому +2

    And thanks for the tips, im happy you touched upon non ethanol gas. I use VP fuels and the performance is night and day, startup on first pull no hesitation oh and no more fucking with the carb every season.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      Thank man, yeah there’s nothing more frustrating than a motor not started and having to trouble shoot it. Non ethanol has really helped me

  • @monzsterman
    @monzsterman 2 роки тому +3

    I'm all electric right now but possibly next year looking to hit some bigger resivours where gas will be needed. Great info, hittin the like to store this.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +2

      Awesome! Good to hear from you this year! Let me know if you decide on a gas outboard.

  • @wftxidiot6518
    @wftxidiot6518 Рік тому +3

    As always great info. Thanks bud😁

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому +1

      Thanks again! Appreciate the view

  • @hhrfc671
    @hhrfc671 Рік тому +1

    Cheers dude. Every bit of knowledge helps.

  • @semajekrad6922
    @semajekrad6922 2 роки тому +4

    I got a 4hp mariner pushing 16,000 lbs along the canals in the UK it's slow , but I ain't in a rush.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      That’s crazy, love it. If you ever post a video share it with me!

    • @semajekrad6922
      @semajekrad6922 2 роки тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver yep for sure I was moving January 21 I may have a clip

    • @semajekrad6922
      @semajekrad6922 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/lMU_XXi0WHA/v-deo.html

    • @semajekrad6922
      @semajekrad6922 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/uuyMxlIhi9M/v-deo.html

  • @DaninVA
    @DaninVA 2 роки тому +4

    Great ideas and a well done video!

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks I appreciate the view!

  • @casper3130
    @casper3130 Рік тому +1

    My 14' flatbottom w/Evinrude 25 hp set at the 2nd trim notch hits 22 mph loaded with a full 6 gal tank, fishing gear, 2 batteries, foot control mounted front trolling motor, fish finder, safety gear, seats, anchor, ice chest with ice and water and my 260# self

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      Nice that sounds like an awesome setup!

  • @PapaMav
    @PapaMav 2 роки тому +1

    Had to buy a new tank this year bc the gas cap fell apart on my old one, too old to find a replacement, so bought a new tank from Cabelas. Even though my old gray fuel line was not suffering that brown crude breakdown in the inside, I replaced the fuel lines with fuel hose from NAPA.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      I’m a hypocrite, I’m telling everyone to change them but I still got those crappy gray ones

    • @PapaMav
      @PapaMav 2 роки тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver LOL, shame on you, LOL. The gray hose was no longer flexible, the NAPA hose, is. Much easier to manage in the boat.

  • @fishsmack
    @fishsmack 2 роки тому +1

    Great tips Houston! Killer video buddy.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      Thanks appreciate the support. Really cool UA-cam community here. Really enjoying it!

  • @abtechgroup
    @abtechgroup 2 роки тому +5

    for higher speed, wear one of those pointy helmets the bicycle racers use......

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      😂 aerodynamics I bet I could get 50mph if I wore one of those

  • @martydodge8786
    @martydodge8786 3 місяці тому +1

    Great info. Thanks
    Any input re: 13 ft inflatable, w/ 9.9 mercury, long shaft

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  3 місяці тому

      That sounds like a good setup. Is it planing well? From talking to other people planing position is the most important thing with inflatables. Main things there is trim position and putting more weight upfront (leaning forward to plane). Also lower pitch prop can give more acceleration power to plane but could hurt top speed

  • @yaboi8616
    @yaboi8616 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are great thank you

  • @hulsey19750
    @hulsey19750 3 місяці тому

    Brand new prop with the right pitch and transom jack plate

  • @MuskokaAdventures
    @MuskokaAdventures 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey I love your videos. Where do you get the carb upgrade, Amazon? Can you send me the link? I have a 2006 Mercury 4 hp that I like to squeeze a little bit more power out of it.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 місяці тому

      I would check this one out. Not 100% it fits your year but check it out
      www.readysetboat.com/mercury-4hp-to-6hp-upgrade-kit-carburetor-and-propeller.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwnei0BhB-EiwAA2xuBgXxlxJbnOYS7Uu6pDtsv_ciU3pT6NMqoaF_Y5r2ybZMHZzbvO3oORoCe-gQAvD_BwE

  • @alexstubbins6298
    @alexstubbins6298 2 роки тому +6

    Great tips. I think if I stop eating so much fish n chips then I won't weigh as much and my boat wouldn't struggle 😅 🙃

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      Lol yeah I’m the same way but here it’s burgers and pizza

    • @pepelapiu2004
      @pepelapiu2004 2 роки тому +4

      Stop eating fish and chips? Are you crazy?
      Just get a bigger motor man! :D

    • @alexstubbins6298
      @alexstubbins6298 2 роки тому +3

      @@pepelapiu2004 famous line from Jaws.....you're gonna need a bigger boat!! Ha ha

  • @thatswamprat
    @thatswamprat Місяць тому +1

    I have the same boat and I just got a 5hp for it and can't what to git it out on the water

  • @Betterdaysfishing
    @Betterdaysfishing 2 роки тому +2

    Heckin good video!!

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      Lol thanks, can’t catch any fish so have to post boat stuff 😂

  • @gregsmith3623
    @gregsmith3623 2 роки тому +1

    I told one of my son's to mount a transducer on our little 14 foot boat and I didn't think much about it until he slept in and I took the boat out in the morning and wow.he had mounted the transducer under the boat about a foot from the back of the transom, I noticed that the engine was running at a higher RPM and it acted like a pad on one of my Old pad Bass boat's.i believe it went a third faster,that transducer was for a Old hummingbird it was about the size of a hockey puck.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      lol 😂 was the transducer literally on the bottom of the boat?? Yeah I bet you are right… my boat kind of creates a suction with the water causing drag, it probably helped break that up lowering drag or like you said a pad that makes the bottom of the boat flatter and it was riding on that like a pad

    • @gregsmith3623
      @gregsmith3623 2 роки тому +3

      @@Skinnyriver yes I sit on the right side and it was right under me,it did pull the wire off the transducer but it ran like it had a engine twice the horsepower, I took it off because I was afraid it would tear a hole in the bottom of the boat, 😂

  • @geigertron3000
    @geigertron3000 2 роки тому +1

    great video thanks! i'm new to boating i have a 5hp nissan 2 stroke on a 13' aluminum boat, wondering about cavitation or ventilation? is the motor too deep? to shallow? where do i measure from etc. and possible fixes would be appreciated!

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      I’m not an expert but Ventilation is when there is turbulence from the boat that gets to the prop and it loses grip. This usually happens when the prop is too close to the top of the water. Cavitation is more complicated, sometimes it happens when there is damage to the prop and it creates vacuum “bubbles” in the water that collapse and cause damage tot he prop and lower performance. Here is a good explanation www.godownsize.com/why-do-boats-cavitate-explained/ I think key is to have prop at proper position and trim and make sure prop edges are not jagged and damaged

    • @geigertron3000
      @geigertron3000 2 роки тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver Thanks so much! I'll check the prop next.

  • @vioreldanciu1302
    @vioreldanciu1302 Рік тому +1

    Hello, is it worth installing a Hydrofoil Easterner on a tohatsu 6hp 4t? Does it reduce the engine speed? Thanks in advance for the answer! I AM FROM ROMANIA and I like your tutorials.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому +2

      If your boat will not plane out, a hydrofoil is a good idea. It will lower your top speed, but will help your boat plane better. If your boat planes well, then a hydrofoil will not really help much

  • @alanlessard7836
    @alanlessard7836 Рік тому +1

    What is the knob for on the back of the shaft

  • @mikegrok
    @mikegrok 9 місяців тому +1

    And last week l replaced the spark plugs on my car and went from 24mpg to 35mpg. It had been 2 years since I did it last.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  8 місяців тому +1

      That’s awesome. I never thought about spark plugs improving MPG but makes perfect sense! Better spark better combustion less gas. Thanks

  • @MarkcureCure
    @MarkcureCure Рік тому

    Great video

  • @pauleliot6429
    @pauleliot6429 2 роки тому +1

    good stuff

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      I appreciate the support thanks!

  • @abtechgroup
    @abtechgroup 2 роки тому +5

    to go faster, set your gps speed to kilometers per hour......

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      That’s an automatic 20% increase!!! #smoking

  • @FilthyPavementApe
    @FilthyPavementApe 2 роки тому +2

    What app did you use in your trim video to track your speed?

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      Hey appreciate the view! I just used the free“Spedometer” app in the iPhone App Store and “Record It” iPhone app screen capture to record it

  • @brandondenton494
    @brandondenton494 Рік тому +1

    Could a motor be to heavy to plan out? I have a 9.5 ft jon boat with a 9.9 mercury electric start

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      Yeah, try lowest trim position. Put weight in front. If that doesn’t work you can try a lower pitch prop or a hydrofoil

    • @brandondenton494
      @brandondenton494 Рік тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver thank you !! I put my son in the front of the boat and it planned out in about 15 seconds and went 21mph… scared hell outta both of us…😂😂😂. Also would the lowest position also mean getting the propeller closet to the boat? I’m a brand boater so I’m still learning…. Also Tip #12 , if the water is real choppy and has waves 3 ft tall and rolling…. Leave that dam 10ft
      Jon boat on the trailor 😂😂 I wanted to go boating, not flying.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      Ha ha yeah, check out this video about trim positions if you get a free 5 mins. ua-cam.com/video/PYldlDtkZrI/v-deo.html
      Position 1 is the lowest position closest to the boat. The higher the position the more it pushes the front of the boat UP which is not what you need if you can’t plane out.

  • @bosto1215
    @bosto1215 5 місяців тому +1

    Should I even waste the money buying the 6hp and just get the 3.5 with the upgrade kit

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  5 місяців тому

      I think the 4hp is the one with available upgrade. I don’t have experience with the 4HP and the upgrade. But Honestly I would still get the 6hp. You have to buy the kit and I think a new prop. It really comes down to the price difference. Plus resale will be better with a true 6hp

  • @sonmydful
    @sonmydful 2 роки тому +1

    Think the crawdad would holda merc 8hp?

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      I think most are rated for 5hp. But…. :) check out the Crawdad Modification Facebook group. I know there are some people on there that have or tried an 8. They would be able to tell you how it does.

  • @michaelshaw5481
    @michaelshaw5481 2 роки тому +1

    Do you think 18 hp will be plenty for a 15 ft

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      Yeah I think an 18 would pair well with a 15’. I think a 25 Hp would be best but an 18 should do really well

  • @mattioder
    @mattioder 5 місяців тому +2

    Number 12 run a two stroke instead a four stroke

  • @Kana0211
    @Kana0211 2 роки тому +1

    Went 18mph on a 8ft walkerbay. Transom cracked when I had a friend on

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      Wow, 18 is smokin on an 8’… hope you can repair that.

  • @castmastersoutdoors7762
    @castmastersoutdoors7762 Рік тому +1

    I've noticed your cavitation plate is about 2 inches below your hull that is one big reason you're losing horsepower

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      Yeah I know, I plan to clamp a 2x12 to raise it this spring to see if there is a difference. Then maybe a legit Jack plate at some point if I can tell a difference

  • @LifewithJames
    @LifewithJames Рік тому +1

    What speed app is that?

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      It’s just called Speedometer App in the apple App Store

  • @PapaMav
    @PapaMav 2 роки тому +1

    If a tree falls in the stream, does it make a sound?

  • @jimmycline4778
    @jimmycline4778 Рік тому +1

    The number one thing is they have low horse power!

  • @kentyler966
    @kentyler966 2 роки тому +3

    #1 weight, everything else is secondary. Four strokes are heavy and slow.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah I agree, too bad here in the USA we can’t buy new carb’ed 2-strokes anymore due to EPA regs. Had an 80’s Yamaha 2-stroke, amazing motor!

    • @kentyler966
      @kentyler966 2 роки тому +3

      Ya, I’ve got a really nice 87 Evinrude 15. Not only is it fast but it only weighs 75#. I think a new 15 four stroke is #108. I see so many guys who buy a 14’ fishing boat with 10 horse who spend a lot money on floors, big batteries, storage etc. They take the boat out for it’s first run and the boat just plows water. Sad, good intentions big disappointment.

    • @Hensleytheultimatehoundsman
      @Hensleytheultimatehoundsman 2 роки тому +2

      @@kentyler966 yep you know things are going backwards when my 50 year old 25 johnson weighs 20-30 pounds less than a new 15 4 stroke merc, the new 25s weigh about 70 pounds more

    • @williamsporing1500
      @williamsporing1500 2 роки тому +2

      I gave my 1965 evinrude 9.5 2 stroke to my brother and bought a new tohatsu 9.8 4 stroke. He’s 2mph slower than me, but my fuel efficiency is unbelievable.

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I can get 24 mpg with my 6hp 4-stroke. It’s crazy it’s better than my truck. I actually did a vid testing mpg ua-cam.com/video/2qUKlFgNyNg/v-deo.html

  • @twizz5727
    @twizz5727 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, very informative but!
    Is nobody curious about that loud a*s noise in the beginning of the video...?
    What the heck was that...!

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      lol yeah someone trying to scare me away from their fishin spot :)

  • @fishing_With_Vic
    @fishing_With_Vic 2 роки тому +1

    Can u go from 6hp to 8hp😅

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      lol no sorry. 6 is a 1 cylinder but an 8 is a 2 cylinder

    • @fishing_With_Vic
      @fishing_With_Vic 2 роки тому +2

      @@Skinnyriver dammit I thought I was on to something

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      ha ha sorry. The 8hps are awesome though. The 2 cylinders balance each other out so it’s super quite with very little vibration. Just heavier because of the extra cylinder. You can tell a huge difference 6hp to 8hp. Much more than a 4hp to 6hp. But my dream is a 25hp on a 16’. Maybe one year I’ll get there.

    • @fishing_With_Vic
      @fishing_With_Vic 2 роки тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver same I getting a six for my birthday I would love to have a 9.9 but don’t wanna spend so much

  • @FR54321
    @FR54321 2 роки тому +1

    in get 32 with a 5hp 2stroke on flat bottom ahahahahah

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому +1

      Nice

    • @FR54321
      @FR54321 2 роки тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver but im pretty sure its because its a 2 cylinder and 4 strokes are only 1

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  2 роки тому

      Yeah I bet you are right. That is flying!!!

  • @chrisniederhelman4986
    @chrisniederhelman4986 Рік тому

    You wanna talk about trim bro you hole shaft is way under your boat

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      Yeah, My cavi plate is 1” lower than the bottom of my transom. I thought about making a Jack plate but it’s probably not worth the $$ for my small setup. I can get 18mph now a Jack plate may get me 20.
      I may put a 1” block on my transom to get the motor up 1” just to see if it makes a difference

    • @chrisniederhelman4986
      @chrisniederhelman4986 Рік тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver did it make a difference

    • @chrisniederhelman4986
      @chrisniederhelman4986 Рік тому +1

      @@Skinnyriver couse with my 15hp on my 12ft was getting 20 now I am getting 26.7

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver  Рік тому

      Gonna try it soon, I’ll let you know